Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garland. Hi. Everyone,
Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about
Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they leave us. My
Speaker 1: guest today burst into the realities iitgeist. Back in two
Speaker 1: thousand and four, Okay, that's twenty one years ago, you
Speaker 1: guys on the massive MTV hit show Laguna Beach and
Speaker 1: then later on its follow up series The Hills. However,
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, she launched her own women's wellness and
Speaker 1: personal care brand, Love Wellness, that you can find all
Speaker 1: over shelves everywhere, retailers everywhere. It's even on QVC. So
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to speak to her. Please welcome low
Speaker 1: Bosworth to the podcast. Hi, I'm so excited to talk
Speaker 1: to you. Before we get into some of the choices
Speaker 1: that you've made in your life, I want to know,
Speaker 1: before The Hills, before Laguna Beach, what did you want
Speaker 1: to be when you were growing up, when you were
Speaker 1: a little girl.
Speaker 2: So I didn't really know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, Some people like dream of some one certain thing
Speaker 1: and then they somehow fulfill that later in life. But
Speaker 1: I was I never had that either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I feel like I've always had a
Speaker 3: lot of hobbies and interests, and a lot of my
Speaker 3: interests have been based in science, and probably would have
Speaker 3: done something in the medical field or with biology had
Speaker 3: I not my company. But I think the cool thing
Speaker 3: about what I do now is that, you know, wellness
Speaker 3: is adjacent to that, and I have the opportunity to
Speaker 3: work with our incredible medical advisory board and real experts
Speaker 3: in this space, and so I get to sort of.
Speaker 2: Like dabble dabble a little bit, do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, action is really.
Speaker 3: What I get really excited about. Understanding why behind it all.
Speaker 1: Well, that's I mean, that's very interesting. I can understand
Speaker 1: why you would love that. That's something I really actually
Speaker 1: do admire about you is that you chose to pivot
Speaker 1: from your life in LA, your life in reality TV,
Speaker 1: to the wellness space, specifically vaginal gut and hormonal health.
Speaker 1: Not exactly considered sexy.
Speaker 2: But wow, especially not in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: And exactly Yeah, you are like really one of the
Speaker 1: first women out there talking about vaginas and vaginal health. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know today things are much different, thank goodness,
Speaker 1: but we can always use a voice like yours out there.
Speaker 1: Does that leap into new territory A hard decision to
Speaker 1: make or did it just happen naturally?
Speaker 3: You know, Starting my company is really an interesting journey.
Speaker 3: So the Hills ended in twenty ten. I moved to
Speaker 3: the city in twenty twelve and I was thinking about entertainment.
Speaker 3: One of my passions is cooking, and I went to
Speaker 3: the French Culinary Institute.
Speaker 4: I saw that first moved to New York, and I
Speaker 4: was creating a lot of food and cooking content at
Speaker 4: the time, and throughout that journey.
Speaker 3: I started to become more interested in nutrition. My program
Speaker 3: was classic French plus farm to table and we spent
Speaker 3: time with Dan Barber, you know, up at Blue Hill
Speaker 3: and like really got hands on.
Speaker 2: Which was incredibly exciting.
Speaker 3: But I started to learn about the difference in food
Speaker 3: quality based on where it's grown, how it's grown, and
Speaker 3: that you know, different quality of food has different nutrients
Speaker 3: in that food. And I started to feel unwell in
Speaker 3: that period of time.
Speaker 2: I started to.
Speaker 3: Get anxious, depressed, got health issues, intimate health issues, you know,
Speaker 3: everything that the brand focuses on, you know, helping women
Speaker 3: find balance in today.
Speaker 2: And I started to go to the doctor over and
Speaker 2: over and over again.
Speaker 3: If anything, I love to solve problems, any kind a problem,
Speaker 3: big or small. And I started to ask why, Like
Speaker 3: why is it that the products at the drug store
Speaker 3: don't work for me? Why is this ingredient list so
Speaker 3: confusing and then horrific when I go to google it?
Speaker 3: Why have none of the products that have been sold
Speaker 3: to me for years been developed, you know, with scientific
Speaker 3: backing or based on actual research of women's bodies. Why
Speaker 3: were they developed decades ago and they've just been sitting
Speaker 3: on the shelf. And so ultimately I discovered, after eighteen
Speaker 3: months of self advocacy, going to different doctors, finally my
Speaker 3: GP was like, Okay, I'll run a blood panel.
Speaker 2: Eighteen on.
Speaker 1: That's so ridiculous to me. It's so frustrating because if
Speaker 1: I were a doctor, if I didn't just play one
Speaker 1: on TV, which I never actually have, I would that
Speaker 1: be the first thing I would want to know.
Speaker 2: That'd be the first.
Speaker 3: Thing, right, So, eighteen months of set back because they've
Speaker 3: finally got to me to a blood panel, and it
Speaker 3: was revealed to me that I was dealing with some
Speaker 3: very significant fviting deficiencies. And I think back then this
Speaker 3: was twenty fifteen you're like, vitamin deficiencies in America what
Speaker 3: And now it much has revealed itself, you know, on
Speaker 3: why our health is in a state that it's in.
Speaker 3: But back then it was still very.
Speaker 2: New to be talking about these things.
Speaker 3: And for me, I at least had a starting point
Speaker 3: of why I was unwell. Vitamin deficiencies can come from
Speaker 3: gut health issues. If you have got health issue, can
Speaker 3: be harder to absorb nutrients from food, and vitamin deficion
Speaker 3: these can cause some of the things I talked about,
Speaker 3: in addition to gut health, kind of being the master
Speaker 3: microbiome and really affecting your mental health, vaginal health, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And like I said, I at least.
Speaker 3: Had a starting point and I was able to kind
Speaker 3: of create my thesis behind love wellness at that point
Speaker 3: in time, that ingredients really matter whether they go in
Speaker 3: your body or on your body. And from there I
Speaker 3: launched a company and yeah, I started talking about vaginal
Speaker 3: health on Instagram, which like blew people.
Speaker 2: Minds in twenty sixteen. You should think a friend, it
Speaker 2: was wild, Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, it's so true. I even saw one of
Speaker 1: your old castmates, I think Spencer is his name. He
Speaker 1: was like saying things like why am I learning about
Speaker 1: her problems? It was so ridiculous, but you handled that
Speaker 1: so beautifully. You really shut him down, and I loved it.
Speaker 3: You know, I think my experience on reality TV, probably
Speaker 3: just like your experience on television, has given you pretty
Speaker 3: thick skin. And being in the media and public guide
Speaker 3: to a certain degree. Since you know, I'm eighteen years old,
Speaker 3: you learn a lot about how to handle confrontation and
Speaker 3: how to manage yourself in a situation like that. And
Speaker 3: it could have gone like a very different way. But
Speaker 3: the reality is, like, brand awareness is brand awareness, and
Speaker 3: I realized that some of our brand content is going
Speaker 3: to land in the eyeballs, like land in front of
Speaker 3: the eyeballs of the wrong audience, people who are not
Speaker 3: our consumer, because that's just how the Internet works.
Speaker 2: And that's okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Eyeballs are eyeballs as long as I'm concerned.
Speaker 3: Eyeballs are eyeballs, and it's it's okay, it's not a
Speaker 3: big deal. Plenty of people have made fun of me,
Speaker 3: and the reality is, at this point in time, like
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, look at how much success.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the women that we serve are the people that matter.
Speaker 3: So everyone has problems, whether they talk about them or not,
Speaker 3: and you know, if we can help you, then that's fantastic.
Speaker 3: And that was really the point of what we do, right.
Speaker 3: I think that we feel that we've really.
Speaker 2: Changed the conversation around women's health since I started talking
Speaker 2: about different health issues, you know, almost a decade ago.
Speaker 1: Now, almost a decade ago. Can you believe that?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: My life was so different almost ten years ago. It
Speaker 3: was so different.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can imagine what a journey though in
Speaker 1: the last ten years you have taken, and yeah, a successful, independent,
Speaker 1: self motivated trajectory. I love it. It's so inspiring. And
Speaker 1: when you were, like in twenty sixteen when you said
Speaker 1: you starting the brand love Wellness, I mean, how many
Speaker 1: times did you probably try to tell people about this
Speaker 1: idea and they were like, hello, vaginal health. Really?
Speaker 2: You know, it was interesting. I can be pretty.
Speaker 3: Like single minded when it comes to something, and I
Speaker 3: felt really confident about my mission. And when I started
Speaker 3: the business, I always I was also paving the way
Speaker 3: for the next chapter of my life. And if this
Speaker 3: business idea hadn't worked, I think it probably would have
Speaker 3: continued down the road in consumer you know, focused on
Speaker 3: you know, beauty, wellness, things that I really care about
Speaker 3: and am passionate about to make the next chapter of
Speaker 3: my life happen, because you know, it was a time
Speaker 3: where The Hills had been off the air for a
Speaker 3: couple of years. I didn't really know what was next
Speaker 3: for me. I knew that being like solely an individual
Speaker 3: working in the entertainment industry was not particularly comfortable for me,
Speaker 3: and like, I'm comfortable being known and like a public
Speaker 3: figure to a certain degree. Now I think you have
Speaker 3: to get used to that, right Pandora's box, you can't ever.
Speaker 2: Close it again.
Speaker 3: And I just knew that I didn't want to be
Speaker 3: an actress around reality shows like because for me, I
Speaker 3: was uncomfortable living paycheck to paycheck in that way. And
Speaker 3: I think that unless you're an actress with a really
Speaker 3: steady job and like, you know, like nothing is promised.
Speaker 3: And for me, it was really challenging to be in
Speaker 3: the influencer economy and be like, I've only made enough
Speaker 3: money to live for the next two and a half months,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 2: Don't know where my next paycheck is coming from.
Speaker 3: And so for me, I was really through my business,
Speaker 3: trying to create stability for myself and like a different.
Speaker 2: Way of living.
Speaker 3: And you know, I just I just was more comfortable,
Speaker 3: you know, like on this you know, adjacent path.
Speaker 1: No, it's it actually really resonates with me because I
Speaker 1: have been there too. I feel like, you know, you
Speaker 1: look at your life and you look at what you
Speaker 1: have ahead of you hopefully, and you think, how am
Speaker 1: I going to get there? How am I going to
Speaker 1: do this? And you know that security is really important
Speaker 1: when you are following your gut and doing what you
Speaker 1: want to do rather than what you have to do
Speaker 1: to pay the bills, you know. So it's so cool
Speaker 1: to turn what you want into giving you the how
Speaker 1: and the why, you know what I mean? Like that
Speaker 1: you're able to do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I think you know something I always struggled with,
Speaker 3: even when I was on the hills and on Laguna,
Speaker 3: is that entertainment. You have to be picked, right If
Speaker 3: you want a job, you have to be picked for.
Speaker 1: That's so fun, isn't it so fun?
Speaker 3: And there's not a lot of like personal merit. You know,
Speaker 3: smart's ability they can get you that job.
Speaker 2: You have to be picked. You have to be a
Speaker 2: good actress, but you.
Speaker 3: Have to be picked. And I think in reality TV,
Speaker 3: if you are not willing to put it all out
Speaker 3: there and sacrifice yourself for the show, for the network,
Speaker 3: you're not going to get picked. And for me, like
Speaker 3: my dabbling with that, my experimenting with that, like I
Speaker 3: expired very quickly from that POV I just was like,
Speaker 3: I don't want.
Speaker 2: To do this. It makes me so uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: But again, like Pandora's Box, I had an audience and
Speaker 3: I felt like I could help that audience as I
Speaker 3: moved into the next chapter of my life by just
Speaker 3: talking about what I was dealing with and doing my
Speaker 3: best to put solutions out there. So the first two
Speaker 3: three years of Love Wellness, I was a solo founder
Speaker 3: and operator. I worked with our medical advisors and our manufacturers,
Speaker 3: food scientists, you know the experts who basically create products
Speaker 3: with you and bring them to life. But I was
Speaker 3: a solo founder operator for the first two and a
Speaker 3: half three years until I really started to realize that
Speaker 3: like this had legs, And it was then that I
Speaker 3: started bringing on a team, and very shortly thereafter we
Speaker 3: launched an alta. Then we launched a target amazing all
Speaker 3: of these different channels.
Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, when you were doing that, when
Speaker 1: you were a solo was a solo venture or three times,
Speaker 1: when you were like what am I doing? What have
Speaker 1: I gotten? My like I don't even belong in this space.
Speaker 1: You have that kind of self doubt or like sometimes
Speaker 1: they call it imposter syndrome.
Speaker 3: Now, honestly not really. I think when I started the company,
Speaker 3: it was big time for entrepreneurs and consumer LEDs like startups.
Speaker 3: You know, everyone was starting a company Casper, Glossy, Egches,
Speaker 3: but you know, all of these brands, and I thought,
Speaker 3: I'm smart enough, like I can figure this out for
Speaker 3: me again, problem solving, Like I love to problem solve.
Speaker 3: Be a problem, it does not freak me out. I'm
Speaker 3: like great new Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I think I'm the opposite, Like give me a problem.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think like a lot of entrepreneurs are that way.
Speaker 2: They see problems.
Speaker 3: As like the next delicious, juicy thing they get to
Speaker 3: say into And I still very much am that way.
Speaker 3: And so every obstacle was this exciting like next phase
Speaker 3: of the business that I had to figure out and
Speaker 3: could I figure out the puzzle pieces and the challenge
Speaker 3: and make.
Speaker 2: It all work, so.
Speaker 1: It is like a puzzle.
Speaker 2: I like love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Do you think like you talked about the
Speaker 1: thickening of your skin do you in reality TV? Do
Speaker 1: you think that helped you in founding your own business
Speaker 1: or did it like discourage people from taking you seriously?
Speaker 1: Like you know, what were you up against in that respect?
Speaker 2: A double sided coin.
Speaker 3: Certainly, the first few years of my business, I think
Speaker 3: there was like a quiet audience that was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, solutions for my problems because the business was
Speaker 3: profitable kind of at game.
Speaker 2: But media, like media and social media, I think, question the.
Speaker 3: Validity of the need for these types of products. And
Speaker 3: I think in general people were like, oh, like feminine care,
Speaker 3: that's like not that feminist.
Speaker 2: But the reality is is that in these bodies.
Speaker 3: We have problems and we deserve to have clean, effective
Speaker 3: solutions that are science fact that actually work. And I
Speaker 3: try to explain to people that have not had a
Speaker 3: vactional health issue and they think that these types of
Speaker 3: products are irrelevant and misogynistic or whatever, and it's like, well,
Speaker 3: you haven't had that experience, and so how can you
Speaker 3: even like form an opinion about it, right, do.
Speaker 1: You even have vagina?
Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's like just because you haven't experienced it
Speaker 3: and you don't think it's important, like that invalidates the
Speaker 3: experience of other women who maybe are not brave enough
Speaker 3: to talk about this, right, because I think I understood
Speaker 3: through the growth of the business that there certainly were
Speaker 3: a lot of women who were silently suffering. So I
Speaker 3: think the media and people in social media were like,
Speaker 3: what the hell. But a lot of people, I think,
Speaker 3: really her me through my storytelling and they saw themselves
Speaker 3: in me. And if you look at all of our
Speaker 3: reviews since day one, everyone is telling their story.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I told my story and they felt compelled to share
Speaker 3: their story in return, and how much our products actually
Speaker 3: helped them. And I think now the women's woman's category,
Speaker 3: we sort of like gave birth.
Speaker 5: To it perfect and now that category, like the feminine
Speaker 5: care isle, the beautyisle, looks totally different than it did
Speaker 5: a decade ago because.
Speaker 2: All of this new innovation, Yeah, does help women's bodies.
Speaker 1: I mean just women's health in general is starting to,
Speaker 1: you know, get the money and attention that it needs,
Speaker 1: the funding that it's always deserved. So now is the time.
Speaker 1: But you, yeah, you started early, you had the baby
Speaker 1: when you were young.
Speaker 3: You know. I was like, personally, I have really sensitive skin,
Speaker 3: I've a really sensitive body.
Speaker 2: But I was like, I want to.
Speaker 3: Feel confident in my body, and you know, the right
Speaker 3: things aren't out there. You know, all of these doctors
Speaker 3: have told me it's because all of these ingredients are
Speaker 3: in these products. So my gosh, why can't I create
Speaker 3: products in a different way?
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And you were having these problems, and
Speaker 1: so I'm sure you thought like, there must be other
Speaker 1: women that are having these same problems, and this is
Speaker 1: why I need to do this.
Speaker 3: Yes, back then it was I didn't know how to
Speaker 3: like do consumer research back then.
Speaker 2: Now I do.
Speaker 1: A learning curve, a learning curve, a learning.
Speaker 3: Curve, right, But I just I felt really passionate about it,
Speaker 3: and I felt like I wanted to make things that
Speaker 3: could empower women. And these things in some way, shape
Speaker 3: or form had helped me in my own life, right,
Speaker 3: but they weren't necessarily mainstream. And so yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: like I wasn't taken seriously at first, but now the
Speaker 3: story is very different. I think if you tell your
Speaker 3: authentic story for long enough and it's real and the
Speaker 3: things that you make work. Then eventually the people that
Speaker 3: they used to laugh at you see you at Walmart
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, I used to make fun of
Speaker 3: that girl, but I can't anymore.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's that's so good.
Speaker 2: I still can It's you know they still do, but
Speaker 2: they still can't.
Speaker 1: But who's laughing now? Is the thing. So you've really
Speaker 1: been brave, like you were saying and sharing your authentic stories.
Speaker 1: You've been documenting and sharing about your endometriosis diagnosis, and
Speaker 1: I would love for you to sort of share with
Speaker 1: our audience. How did you find out that you had
Speaker 1: endometriosis and were you like suffering for years without even
Speaker 1: knowing what it was?
Speaker 3: Yes, So it turns out I was and I wasn't
Speaker 3: ever able to like look at my matrix of symptoms.
Speaker 3: I mean, no doctor either be.
Speaker 2: Like it's this right.
Speaker 3: So the thing about endometriosis, the stats say one in
Speaker 3: ten habit doctors believe it's way higher. But there's no
Speaker 3: real test for endometriosis. You have to have surgery to
Speaker 3: open you up to get a visual confirmation for a dice.
Speaker 3: Why because the technology doesn't exist there are some things
Speaker 3: that you know are happening in the research world from
Speaker 3: an ENDO perspective, that hopefully will change that down the road,
Speaker 3: But right now there's no true test that just blood
Speaker 3: tests or they can be like, you have enometriosis. And
Speaker 3: what's challenging about and know is that it's a chronic
Speaker 3: inflammatory disease. So there is no cure for ENDO, and
Speaker 3: there is no good test for ENDO except like literally
Speaker 3: a surgeon being like, yep, she's got it.
Speaker 1: How do they wait?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait, how do they when they look in there? How
Speaker 1: do they know?
Speaker 3: So endometriosis presents visually as like little dots, little things
Speaker 3: like in your u like on your uterus, on your ovaries,
Speaker 3: in your pelviskay, So visually you can see it typically
Speaker 3: and it looks different. It can look like kind of
Speaker 3: stringy like spider webby white, or it can be like
Speaker 3: little tiny black dots kind of all together, and it
Speaker 3: is uterine cells that have escaped and are like growing outside.
Speaker 2: Of the uterus, and they don't know quite like how
Speaker 2: that happens.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I started like my own fertility journey and
Speaker 3: it connects. I swear when I was thirty three, I
Speaker 3: did my first egger tree bowl because I was like
Speaker 3: single in the middle of my thirties and I thought, well,
Speaker 3: I better do this because I don't want to have children.
Speaker 3: So I did my first type retrieval. My amh was
Speaker 3: well like it was a fine retrieval. I did another
Speaker 3: one at thirty five it was worse, and when I
Speaker 3: met my fiancee, we were like, we better go see
Speaker 3: the doctor and just to do a check up and
Speaker 3: see how things are going, because we would like to
Speaker 3: have a family together. And the doctor said, before we
Speaker 3: go any further, I would like to just run some
Speaker 3: tests to see if there's anything in your makeup that
Speaker 3: maybe would be preventative for you, like preventing you from
Speaker 3: getting pregnant, or how do you be and you know,
Speaker 3: so she checked for like lupus and like all these things,
Speaker 3: doing blood work. But then there is a biopsy you
Speaker 3: can do, a uterine biopsy. It is so painful. It's
Speaker 3: called the receptive of biopsy, and they basically.
Speaker 2: Put a thing into your uterus while you're awake under
Speaker 2: no oh my god pain relief. You're awake, and they
Speaker 2: like scoop out a little bit of your uterus, okay,
Speaker 2: and if the uterine.
Speaker 3: Cells show any inflammation, it suggests that you might have endometriosis,
Speaker 3: because again endo is an inflammatory disease.
Speaker 2: So again it's not.
Speaker 3: A conformation of endometriosis. It says, yes, your uterine cells
Speaker 3: are inflamed or no they are not. And mine came
Speaker 3: back as very inflamed, and so the doctor said, you
Speaker 3: probably have endometriosis, and if you want to have children,
Speaker 3: this needs.
Speaker 2: To be addressed.
Speaker 3: One of the good things about endometriosis at this point
Speaker 3: in time is that you can have excision surgery, which
Speaker 3: is part of the opening you up and taking.
Speaker 1: A peek right right, same surgery.
Speaker 3: Same surgery they plan to do, you know, a visual
Speaker 3: track and if.
Speaker 2: It's there, they will take it out.
Speaker 3: Okay, And along with that they might take out cybroids
Speaker 3: or things like that, other you know, sort of like
Speaker 3: benign gross that may impede your ability to have a baby.
Speaker 3: So my surgery was in February of this year and
Speaker 3: gosh darn it, they opened me up and there it was.
Speaker 1: Did they scoop it out?
Speaker 3: They It's like they scooped it out. Thankfully, they scooped
Speaker 3: it out. And so now I'm like still recovering and
Speaker 3: moving forward.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, how are you? How are you doing now?
Speaker 3: I mean, so my surgeon, who is an excellent surgeon.
Speaker 3: Also an issue is it's very hard to find an
Speaker 3: endometriosis excision surgeon in this country. There's like a handful
Speaker 3: of doctors that do this type of surgery, which is
Speaker 3: typically gives you a better result than an ablation surgery
Speaker 3: because I think where they burn stuff out, this is
Speaker 3: them actually like cutting it out. I'm we'll have to
Speaker 3: like do a little bit digger deeping because I didn't
Speaker 3: have a blation surgery.
Speaker 2: I had excision.
Speaker 3: An excision is kind of the gold standard right now,
Speaker 3: thinking about it, it takes me back to like a
Speaker 3: time that i've I thought I was going to coast through,
Speaker 3: but I really did. My surgeon was like, it's definitely
Speaker 3: going to be fourteen days.
Speaker 1: At home, okay.
Speaker 3: And I was like, sir, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: This is before I knew that I really had it,
Speaker 3: and like how advanced it was. And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like the typical recovery is like fourteen days minimum at home.
Speaker 1: And you thought you would be quicker than that.
Speaker 2: I thought I would conquer that.
Speaker 3: And when I woke up from my surgery, I was
Speaker 3: in so much pain that I immediately knew that he
Speaker 3: was right. And I immediately knew that he had found
Speaker 3: what he was looking for and that I could just
Speaker 3: tell it was worse than maybe what they thought, or
Speaker 3: that my surgery was a bit more complicated than I
Speaker 3: had anticipated. So they cut through my abdominal wall in
Speaker 3: a few places, and some of them were really deep incisions,
Speaker 3: like all the way through, and I could not sit
Speaker 3: up on my own for two weeks, like my fiance
Speaker 3: had to literally helped me sit up, help how to
Speaker 3: help me roll over in bed, Like I was pretty
Speaker 3: much ammobile for the first almost fourteen days. And the
Speaker 3: reality is like my recovery took a lot longer than
Speaker 3: fourteen days. I started to work again, but worked from
Speaker 3: home after those two weeks, but the exhaustion was real.
Speaker 3: The physical, the physical healing from the surgery was pretty remarkable.
Speaker 3: Like I could not pee or go to the bathroom
Speaker 3: without pain for a solid three months.
Speaker 2: After the surgery.
Speaker 3: Like even now was when I pee, I like feel
Speaker 3: where they like got around my bladder and it's just
Speaker 3: nerves still regrowing.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, but like.
Speaker 3: You just don't know, and you can like grow into
Speaker 3: your bladder, can grow into your abdominal wall, can grow all.
Speaker 2: Over the place.
Speaker 3: And yeah, the surgery was was physically proper, but also emotionally,
Speaker 3: I like, I haven't really told a lot of people,
Speaker 3: told my close friends and family, and then my social
Speaker 3: media following knew I had surgery because I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I had like pelvic abdominal surgery. And then I didn't
Speaker 3: realize that when you have ENDO excision, there's like classic
Speaker 3: scar formations that you have.
Speaker 2: So I posted a photo of.
Speaker 3: My belly and then everyone in the comments was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, you have.
Speaker 2: ENDO, you have END, you have NDO, And I was.
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, I hadn't planned on the daily yet,
Speaker 3: but yes I do.
Speaker 2: And I was like scared because it's like I didn't
Speaker 2: like I want to go down this road yet.
Speaker 3: But I immediately started to feel relieved because I immediately
Speaker 3: found this.
Speaker 2: Community of people who understand.
Speaker 3: What I had been dealing with that I did not
Speaker 3: anticipate at all. And so that accident was really a
Speaker 3: happy accident ultimately, And yeah, I think it helped me
Speaker 3: my emotional state a lot to understand that there was
Speaker 3: a huge group of strangers that was like we got you,
Speaker 3: You're one of us, this is a community, and like
Speaker 3: we're here just for you, which really took me by surprise.
Speaker 1: That's what it's for. That's that's the beautiful thing about
Speaker 1: social media.
Speaker 2: It can be good sometimes I can.
Speaker 1: It can absolutely be good if used correctly. So you're
Speaker 1: thirty eight now, you said when you were thirty three
Speaker 1: you did an egg retrieval. I'm sure you know. What
Speaker 1: might have caused you to go and do that was
Speaker 1: you're seeing you know, the years go by, you're seeing
Speaker 1: friends getting married, having kids, and comparing yourself to others.
Speaker 1: Never does anyone any good, but it's really hard not to.
Speaker 1: But you got engaged earlier this year. Congratulations you. I
Speaker 1: would love for you to speak to our audience about
Speaker 1: divine timing. Do you believe in that, because it sounds
Speaker 1: like that's what's happening for you.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know if that's exactly what I
Speaker 3: would call it, but you know, when I was younger,
Speaker 3: I yearned so much for a relationship and for a partners.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us do. We're humans, and
Speaker 2: that's just natural, right.
Speaker 3: My background, I think on TV and then having a
Speaker 3: company that was like going really well, really fast. I
Speaker 3: think a lot of men would meet me and they
Speaker 3: would want to meet me and date me for a
Speaker 3: little bit, but they weren't like, oh my god, she's
Speaker 3: more successful than I am. I can't I can't do this,
Speaker 3: or she was on TV.
Speaker 2: How do I take this person seriously?
Speaker 3: But I think also I was like so focused on
Speaker 3: being in a partnership at that time time or like dating,
Speaker 3: that I probably was giving off the wrong energy, right
Speaker 3: A lot of people who want a boyfriend or a girlfriend,
Speaker 3: you give off the wrong energy. And everybody does that
Speaker 3: at periods of their life. And it was through my
Speaker 3: mid third is that I really got comfortable being on
Speaker 3: my own.
Speaker 2: And I knew for years.
Speaker 3: I was like, I have to be comfortable on my own.
Speaker 3: I have to be comfortable on my own. And I
Speaker 3: didn't like say, before I meet the right person. I
Speaker 3: just thought, I have to be comfortable on my own
Speaker 3: because maybe it doesn't happen for everybody.
Speaker 2: And I think being in New York, living in New
Speaker 2: York City changes the game a little bit too.
Speaker 3: I have fifteen women that are the ages of thirty
Speaker 3: five to forty that are so incredible and they're all single.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it hard? It is that men, it's a.
Speaker 3: Very tough city to meet people because you can go
Speaker 3: to this bar and twenty minutes later be here and
Speaker 3: here and here, and everyone is accomplished and everyone is
Speaker 3: beautiful and everyone is somebody, right, and so you can
Speaker 3: really like take your pick to a certain degree.
Speaker 2: And I think that dating apps don't have that.
Speaker 3: It's the mindset of like it's never ending, and I yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: And so it's just a weird city. And it's also
Speaker 3: very socially acceptable here to get engaged and married in
Speaker 3: your late thirties, even in your forties, right, everybody does
Speaker 3: that here. So I think I felt sort of like
Speaker 3: odd man out outside of New York City, but not
Speaker 3: necessarily in New York City, because understand that community was
Speaker 3: like all single people all my age, and it wasn't
Speaker 3: that weird, but your heart still yearns.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: However, I had to really get actually comfortable with being
Speaker 3: on my own, I think, before you could meet the
Speaker 3: person who is supposed to be your person, right, because
Speaker 3: you have to cure your own energy, You have to
Speaker 3: cure how you present to people and present to the world,
Speaker 3: and you want to be confident. You want to know
Speaker 3: who you are, and you want to know what you want.
Speaker 2: In your life.
Speaker 3: And until you know those things, I think you can
Speaker 3: find a partner, but they may not be the right partner,
Speaker 3: right because I.
Speaker 2: Dated lots of men, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't until I was really confident with myself
Speaker 3: and how my life was going that I felt really
Speaker 3: good about how I would present to a potential partner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's You're so right. In my experience as well,
Speaker 1: it wasn't until I gave myself that opportunity to really
Speaker 1: get comfortable in my own skin and enjoy being alone.
Speaker 1: And you know, people always said you have to love
Speaker 1: yourself before you can love others, yes, or something like that.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the thing?
Speaker 2: Like, yes, that's about right now.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's something in there. Basically, it starts with loving yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: And until you get there, it's hard to fully love
Speaker 1: somebody else in a healthy way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Completely, So you got there? You met your how did
Speaker 1: you guys meet?
Speaker 3: So people I often do like question and answer on
Speaker 3: Instagram stories. For years people would be like, are you cycle?
Speaker 3: I'm your circle, and I would just avoid the question
Speaker 3: because for a while I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: this is But then when I was confident, I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm going to answer this because like whatever. And the
Speaker 3: second I answered it, the second I got a DM
Speaker 3: from one of Dom's sisters who like, is beautiful and
Speaker 3: like you can like she's a real person.
Speaker 2: Sorry. I was like, this is not a crazy person.
Speaker 1: I'm not being catfished.
Speaker 2: Okay, good And she was like, I think you should
Speaker 2: meet my brother. He's amazing. He's in the city, he's
Speaker 2: done all these things.
Speaker 3: She sent his photo and I was like, this is
Speaker 3: my literal dream man and now getting married.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is.
Speaker 2: A cool That is divine intervention.
Speaker 3: I mean, can you find and you finally put yourself
Speaker 3: out there and your energy is good, It's like okay.
Speaker 1: And that's when it happens. And yeah, divine timing into
Speaker 1: like whatever you want to call it. Yes, it's the
Speaker 1: energy that you're putting out there. Is something changed, Yes,
Speaker 1: and it brought you what you wanted. It's so beautiful.
Speaker 1: I love that when you guys getting married.
Speaker 3: We're getting married this summer. Oh yeah, we're really excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting married in a little bit and once
Speaker 2: I do, I'll share an this with everybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm really excited for you. That's I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I love love, I love weddings, and I love you too.
Speaker 3: And you know, we're remarkably not that stressed about it. Good,
Speaker 3: it's going to be a great day. Yeah, family just easy, relaxed.
Speaker 2: So it's interesting. We like started thinking we were going
Speaker 2: to have like a big New York City wedding and
Speaker 2: then we like changed course. Good, now we're like not stressed.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: Today I was remembered. It was like, oh, I have
Speaker 2: to like make our like you know, marriage lessons appointment.
Speaker 2: I wasn't like freaked out about it.
Speaker 3: Like it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 1: It'll all fall into place exactly. This sounds like it
Speaker 1: was meant to be. I'm really hope hopeful for you
Speaker 1: for a beautiful, bright future and a family.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever however you create your family, it will
Speaker 1: be perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're very hopeful.
Speaker 1: I know you're not a doctor, but you are extremely
Speaker 1: hands on with your brand and you've been privy to
Speaker 1: a lot of research and data when it comes to
Speaker 1: wanting to obtain good vaginal health. I want to hear
Speaker 1: your thoughts on a couple of things. Maybe people are
Speaker 1: wondering out there are some crazy questions. Are you up
Speaker 1: for it? Like a little Q and a like to
Speaker 1: not a doctor, but just to low boss Worth. Yes,
Speaker 1: let's do okay? Thongs and g strings, are they okay?
Speaker 1: Or should you choose something else?
Speaker 2: I think if you.
Speaker 3: Are susceptible to urinary tract infections, maybe a different choice
Speaker 3: is better. Ecoli travels from your backside up into the
Speaker 3: urethra and typically can like go across your skin or
Speaker 3: like across your underwear. You can sort of be like
Speaker 3: a carrier of bacteria from back to front.
Speaker 1: So you have to That's why people wipe front to back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean your mom didn't teach you that. I'm teaching
Speaker 1: you right now.
Speaker 3: You're sensitive down there. Like a different type of underwear
Speaker 3: maybe okay, but go for like cotton wash. Even the
Speaker 3: people from remember a few years ago, people were like,
Speaker 3: you should throw out your underwear every like whatever, like
Speaker 3: every six months, and like they're not necessarily wrong, but
Speaker 3: I think that that's like really goes to go going
Speaker 3: above and beyond.
Speaker 1: Oh that's not good, because I've had some of my
Speaker 1: underwear for a really long time. I'm kind of sentimentally
Speaker 1: attached to some of them.
Speaker 3: That's fine, everyone has underwear for a long time. I
Speaker 3: don't think that's a realistic practice.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is going to be crazy and completely completely revealing.
Speaker 1: But sometimes I have a house full of girls and we'll,
Speaker 1: you know, laundry will get mixed up, and then I
Speaker 1: will find myself wearing their underwear and vice versa, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like too rushed to care, so I just
Speaker 1: throw it on and off I go. Is that bad?
Speaker 1: It's been washed?
Speaker 3: I do know that I don't know the answer to
Speaker 3: I think that, like maybe the people who shout from
Speaker 3: the rooftops about throwing away your underwear frequently may have
Speaker 3: a different opinion. Clean Like, I don't know the answer.
Speaker 3: I'm not a microbiologists, and I have not read the research.
Speaker 1: On sharing underwear.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, how about wearing like tight workout legan or even
Speaker 1: tight jeans all day long? Does that impact your vaginal
Speaker 1: health negatively?
Speaker 3: If you may be more susceptible to infection, then potentially yes,
Speaker 3: but not necessarily so, Like you try to keep like
Speaker 3: a dry environment down there and if you sit in
Speaker 3: your sweat or in the pool and your wet bathing
Speaker 3: suit for too long, it can like breed bacteria and
Speaker 3: fungus and things like that. And so that's why, you know,
Speaker 3: like when you get out of the pool, you want
Speaker 3: to like rinse.
Speaker 2: Off and switch and to dry clothes because you want
Speaker 2: to get.
Speaker 3: The chemicals from the pool off your body and off
Speaker 3: your intimate skin. And you also don't want to be
Speaker 3: sitting in a wet bathing suit because like that can
Speaker 3: just breed and cause things to grow, right, like warmth
Speaker 3: and wet thinks grow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would not be good.
Speaker 2: That would not be good. Things grow.
Speaker 1: Okay, Wait have you heard about this? Because I hadn't
Speaker 1: ozebic vagina.
Speaker 2: No, oh, I have not. What is that?
Speaker 1: Okay? Apparently taking a semaglue tide can lead to an
Speaker 1: imbalance in the vagina between the good and the bad bacteria.
Speaker 1: The connection, you know, like the whole connection between the two,
Speaker 1: because there is a connection. You know about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know about the connection, but I have not
Speaker 3: heard about ozempic vagina at all. So the idea is
Speaker 3: that a GLP one may have an impact on the
Speaker 3: gut microbiome which then can like indirectly affect the vaginal microbiome.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the bacteria, the bad bacteria increasing.
Speaker 2: I mean, anything's possible, my lady. This is the first
Speaker 2: time I've heard about this.
Speaker 1: I was like, what O zembic vagina, But.
Speaker 3: I haven't I haven't heard about that specifically. But if
Speaker 3: it does negatively affect your gut microbiome, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: like you could come to the conclusion that it may
Speaker 3: negatively affect vaginal health.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, if you're taking a gop one,
Speaker 1: hopefully you're seeing a doctor too, and you know, because
Speaker 1: it can affect your gut considerably, So it really does
Speaker 1: make sense, like you're saying that it would impact other
Speaker 1: parts of your body, specifically parts of your body that
Speaker 1: are very sensitive to that balance, that pH balance that
Speaker 1: by that microbiome importance, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's interesting though about the GLP ones is that
Speaker 3: you know, locally, like they're very anti inflammatory, and like
Speaker 3: reducing inflammation in the body can have a lot of
Speaker 3: very positive, like secondary and tertiary impacts.
Speaker 2: On different systems body.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I hear a lot of conflicting
Speaker 3: information about GLP one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you know, it's the pros and the cons.
Speaker 1: You got to weigh it out and make sure it
Speaker 1: works for you.
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, but this is the first time I'm
Speaker 2: hearing about.
Speaker 1: Now you're going to look it up. You're going to
Speaker 1: be like, I need to know you need to make
Speaker 1: a supplement for o zambic vagina. That's my gift to you,
Speaker 1: is a new idea for a product. I better get
Speaker 1: a free bottle, That's all I'm saying. Not that I
Speaker 1: you know, need it, but I mean it.
Speaker 3: Affects the microbiome. Just our badginal probiotic is a great option.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. What a beautiful bottle there you have with you?
Speaker 1: So cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get.
Speaker 3: A Walmart Target Ulta, not the bunny thing.
Speaker 2: We launched this product in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: That's your baby right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I consider this to be the original multi strained vaginal
Speaker 3: probiotic because we launched it with eight strains, and then
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago we added one more to
Speaker 3: like supercharge in the formula. But yeah, we've known for
Speaker 3: a long time that strained diversity is incredibly important in
Speaker 3: maintaining a balanced ecosystem.
Speaker 1: I think that all this knowledge that you've gathered through
Speaker 1: your years of experience with your brand is so important
Speaker 1: for you to share. And I know that there are
Speaker 1: women listening right now who are excited by this information
Speaker 1: and the idea that there are products out there that
Speaker 1: you're providing that are specifically for vaginal health. I think
Speaker 1: that's really cool.
Speaker 2: Well, the vagina is an immunity organ.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's a sex organ, but it's also an
Speaker 3: immunity organ. Like if working properly, the vagina like kills
Speaker 3: pathogens and kills invaders. So like enter into the vea,
Speaker 3: you need your microbiome to be working properly so that
Speaker 3: it can.
Speaker 1: Do its job right right. Oh my gosh, it's also fascinating.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you walking me through all of this
Speaker 1: and enduring my ridiculous questions. Well, before I let you go,
Speaker 1: low Bosworth, what was your last I choose me moment?
Speaker 2: M my last I choose me moment? I think it
Speaker 2: was yesterday. My fiance was like, do you want me
Speaker 2: to walk the dog? And I was like, yes, I do.
Speaker 1: Okay, good A simple moment, A simple one. Yeah, choosing
Speaker 1: yourself over that that's good because watching the dog in
Speaker 1: New York is like a whole thing.
Speaker 3: I know that's a very simple example, but like I
Speaker 3: think it speaks volumes to how you treat yourself right,
Speaker 3: Like I'm somebody that is working on accepting help. Right,
Speaker 3: Like actually being able to do that and be like, yes,
Speaker 3: I will accept the help that you are offering to me.
Speaker 3: Means that I am choosing myself.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's so hard to do for so many women. Yes,
Speaker 1: you're a simple I choose me. A moment is a
Speaker 1: good one. Thank you, Thank you for being on with us.