WEBVTT - I Choose...Science Over Status with Lo Bosworth 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:09.440 You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garland. Hi. Everyone, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:13.240 welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:17.079 the choices we make and where they leave us. My 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:21.320 guest today burst into the realities iitgeist. Back in two 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:24.599 thousand and four, Okay, that's twenty one years ago, you 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:29.400 guys on the massive MTV hit show Laguna Beach and 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:33.080 then later on its follow up series The Hills. However, 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.479 in twenty sixteen, she launched her own women's wellness and 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:42.360 personal care brand, Love Wellness, that you can find all 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:47.800 over shelves everywhere, retailers everywhere. It's even on QVC. So 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.440 I cannot wait to speak to her. Please welcome low 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.720 Bosworth to the podcast. Hi, I'm so excited to talk 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:59.480 to you. Before we get into some of the choices 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.360 that you've made in your life, I want to know, 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:06.360 before The Hills, before Laguna Beach, what did you want 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.280 to be when you were growing up, when you were 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:08.920 a little girl. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:15.200 So I didn't really know. Yeah. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.800 No, Some people like dream of some one certain thing 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.040 and then they somehow fulfill that later in life. But 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:23.800 I was I never had that either. 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.039 Yeah, you know, I feel like I've always had a 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.959 lot of hobbies and interests, and a lot of my 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:36.959 interests have been based in science, and probably would have 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:41.319 done something in the medical field or with biology had 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.920 I not my company. But I think the cool thing 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.880 about what I do now is that, you know, wellness 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.120 is adjacent to that, and I have the opportunity to 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.920 work with our incredible medical advisory board and real experts 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.400 in this space, and so I get to sort of. 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:01.200 Like dabble dabble a little bit, do you know what 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:01.560 I mean? 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.400 Absolutely, action is really. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.799 What I get really excited about. Understanding why behind it all. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.800 Well, that's I mean, that's very interesting. I can understand 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.960 why you would love that. That's something I really actually 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.320 do admire about you is that you chose to pivot 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.160 from your life in LA, your life in reality TV, 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:29.840 to the wellness space, specifically vaginal gut and hormonal health. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.120 Not exactly considered sexy. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.639 But wow, especially not in twenty sixteen. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.880 And exactly Yeah, you are like really one of the 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:44.280 first women out there talking about vaginas and vaginal health. Yeah, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.200 and you know today things are much different, thank goodness, 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.600 but we can always use a voice like yours out there. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.160 Does that leap into new territory A hard decision to 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.480 make or did it just happen naturally? 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:02.160 You know, Starting my company is really an interesting journey. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.040 So the Hills ended in twenty ten. I moved to 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:10.279 the city in twenty twelve and I was thinking about entertainment. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:15.040 One of my passions is cooking, and I went to 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.720 the French Culinary Institute. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.880 I saw that first moved to New York, and I 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.200 was creating a lot of food and cooking content at 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:29.440 the time, and throughout that journey. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.679 I started to become more interested in nutrition. My program 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.440 was classic French plus farm to table and we spent 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.000 time with Dan Barber, you know, up at Blue Hill 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:39.840 and like really got hands on. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.920 Which was incredibly exciting. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.360 But I started to learn about the difference in food 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:50.560 quality based on where it's grown, how it's grown, and 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:54.760 that you know, different quality of food has different nutrients 0:03:54.800 --> 0:04:00.120 in that food. And I started to feel unwell in 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:01.160 that period of time. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:02.840 I started to. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:07.200 Get anxious, depressed, got health issues, intimate health issues, you know, 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.600 everything that the brand focuses on, you know, helping women 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:11.920 find balance in today. 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.240 And I started to go to the doctor over and 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:15.440 over and over again. 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:19.320 If anything, I love to solve problems, any kind a problem, 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.479 big or small. And I started to ask why, Like 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.680 why is it that the products at the drug store 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.440 don't work for me? Why is this ingredient list so 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.440 confusing and then horrific when I go to google it? 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.799 Why have none of the products that have been sold 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:40.080 to me for years been developed, you know, with scientific 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.760 backing or based on actual research of women's bodies. Why 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.440 were they developed decades ago and they've just been sitting 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:51.719 on the shelf. And so ultimately I discovered, after eighteen 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:56.680 months of self advocacy, going to different doctors, finally my 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.320 GP was like, Okay, I'll run a blood panel. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:01.640 Eighteen on. 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.159 That's so ridiculous to me. It's so frustrating because if 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.680 I were a doctor, if I didn't just play one 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.880 on TV, which I never actually have, I would that 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.320 be the first thing I would want to know. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.240 That'd be the first. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.680 Thing, right, So, eighteen months of set back because they've 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:20.000 finally got to me to a blood panel, and it 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.839 was revealed to me that I was dealing with some 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:27.719 very significant fviting deficiencies. And I think back then this 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.960 was twenty fifteen you're like, vitamin deficiencies in America what 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.800 And now it much has revealed itself, you know, on 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.640 why our health is in a state that it's in. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.760 But back then it was still very. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.080 New to be talking about these things. 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.839 And for me, I at least had a starting point 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:53.400 of why I was unwell. Vitamin deficiencies can come from 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.920 gut health issues. If you have got health issue, can 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.920 be harder to absorb nutrients from food, and vitamin deficion 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.680 these can cause some of the things I talked about, 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.000 in addition to gut health, kind of being the master 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:10.279 microbiome and really affecting your mental health, vaginal health, et cetera. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.080 And like I said, I at least. 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:16.560 Had a starting point and I was able to kind 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:21.080 of create my thesis behind love wellness at that point 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:27.039 in time, that ingredients really matter whether they go in 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:31.080 your body or on your body. And from there I 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.640 launched a company and yeah, I started talking about vaginal 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.279 health on Instagram, which like blew people. 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.640 Minds in twenty sixteen. You should think a friend, it 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:40.200 was wild, Oh. 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.720 My god, it's so true. I even saw one of 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:46.599 your old castmates, I think Spencer is his name. He 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.920 was like saying things like why am I learning about 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:55.800 her problems? It was so ridiculous, but you handled that 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.880 so beautifully. You really shut him down, and I loved it. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:05.000 You know, I think my experience on reality TV, probably 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.360 just like your experience on television, has given you pretty 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.520 thick skin. And being in the media and public guide 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.600 to a certain degree. Since you know, I'm eighteen years old, 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.760 you learn a lot about how to handle confrontation and 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.440 how to manage yourself in a situation like that. And 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.360 it could have gone like a very different way. But 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:29.400 the reality is, like, brand awareness is brand awareness, and 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.880 I realized that some of our brand content is going 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.480 to land in the eyeballs, like land in front of 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.760 the eyeballs of the wrong audience, people who are not 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.440 our consumer, because that's just how the Internet works. 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.280 And that's okay, you know what I mean. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.120 Eyeballs are eyeballs as long as I'm concerned. 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:50.520 Eyeballs are eyeballs, and it's it's okay, it's not a 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.760 big deal. Plenty of people have made fun of me, 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.120 and the reality is, at this point in time, like 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.040 it doesn't really matter. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.120 Oh, I mean, look at how much success. 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.120 Yeah, the women that we serve are the people that matter. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.000 So everyone has problems, whether they talk about them or not, 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:12.600 and you know, if we can help you, then that's fantastic. 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.920 And that was really the point of what we do, right. 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:17.880 I think that we feel that we've really. 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.920 Changed the conversation around women's health since I started talking 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.560 about different health issues, you know, almost a decade ago. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.280 Now, almost a decade ago. Can you believe that? 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.280 I mean, it's crazy. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.800 My life was so different almost ten years ago. It 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:36.559 was so different. 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:41.320 I mean, I can imagine what a journey though in 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:47.000 the last ten years you have taken, and yeah, a successful, independent, 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:53.200 self motivated trajectory. I love it. It's so inspiring. And 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.200 when you were, like in twenty sixteen when you said 0:08:56.240 --> 0:09:00.319 you starting the brand love Wellness, I mean, how many 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:04.400 times did you probably try to tell people about this 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:09.120 idea and they were like, hello, vaginal health. Really? 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.280 You know, it was interesting. I can be pretty. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:22.000 Like single minded when it comes to something, and I 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:27.240 felt really confident about my mission. And when I started 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:33.160 the business, I always I was also paving the way 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:38.400 for the next chapter of my life. And if this 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.600 business idea hadn't worked, I think it probably would have 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:46.960 continued down the road in consumer you know, focused on 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.040 you know, beauty, wellness, things that I really care about 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.080 and am passionate about to make the next chapter of 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.800 my life happen, because you know, it was a time 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.760 where The Hills had been off the air for a 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.920 couple of years. I didn't really know what was next 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:08.120 for me. I knew that being like solely an individual 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.880 working in the entertainment industry was not particularly comfortable for me, 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.440 and like, I'm comfortable being known and like a public 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.199 figure to a certain degree. Now I think you have 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.200 to get used to that, right Pandora's box, you can't ever. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:22.839 Close it again. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.960 And I just knew that I didn't want to be 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:31.040 an actress around reality shows like because for me, I 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.560 was uncomfortable living paycheck to paycheck in that way. And 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.400 I think that unless you're an actress with a really 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:41.160 steady job and like, you know, like nothing is promised. 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.000 And for me, it was really challenging to be in 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.280 the influencer economy and be like, I've only made enough 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.280 money to live for the next two and a half months, 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:50.559 and I. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.760 Don't know where my next paycheck is coming from. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.560 And so for me, I was really through my business, 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:00.360 trying to create stability for myself and like a different. 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:00.880 Way of living. 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:08.920 And you know, I just I just was more comfortable, 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.520 you know, like on this you know, adjacent path. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:17.080 No, it's it actually really resonates with me because I 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:21.080 have been there too. I feel like, you know, you 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.600 look at your life and you look at what you 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:27.440 have ahead of you hopefully, and you think, how am 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.960 I going to get there? How am I going to 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:35.040 do this? And you know that security is really important 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.360 when you are following your gut and doing what you 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.839 want to do rather than what you have to do 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.640 to pay the bills, you know. So it's so cool 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.800 to turn what you want into giving you the how 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.800 and the why, you know what I mean? Like that 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:50.760 you're able to do that? 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.360 Yeah, definitely. I think you know something I always struggled with, 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.640 even when I was on the hills and on Laguna, 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:03.640 is that entertainment. You have to be picked, right If 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.720 you want a job, you have to be picked for. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.320 That's so fun, isn't it so fun? 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:12.360 And there's not a lot of like personal merit. You know, 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.480 smart's ability they can get you that job. 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:17.640 You have to be picked. You have to be a 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:18.959 good actress, but you. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.839 Have to be picked. And I think in reality TV, 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.720 if you are not willing to put it all out 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:30.280 there and sacrifice yourself for the show, for the network, 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.840 you're not going to get picked. And for me, like 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:39.520 my dabbling with that, my experimenting with that, like I 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.760 expired very quickly from that POV I just was like, 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:44.080 I don't want. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.400 To do this. It makes me so uncomfortable. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:53.080 But again, like Pandora's Box, I had an audience and 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.040 I felt like I could help that audience as I 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.400 moved into the next chapter of my life by just 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.080 talking about what I was dealing with and doing my 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:07.360 best to put solutions out there. So the first two 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.520 three years of Love Wellness, I was a solo founder 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:15.760 and operator. I worked with our medical advisors and our manufacturers, 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.240 food scientists, you know the experts who basically create products 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.520 with you and bring them to life. But I was 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.920 a solo founder operator for the first two and a 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:28.079 half three years until I really started to realize that 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.160 like this had legs, And it was then that I 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.080 started bringing on a team, and very shortly thereafter we 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.600 launched an alta. Then we launched a target amazing all 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.040 of these different channels. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.640 Okay, first of all, when you were doing that, when 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.080 you were a solo was a solo venture or three times, 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.880 when you were like what am I doing? What have 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.920 I gotten? My like I don't even belong in this space. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.160 You have that kind of self doubt or like sometimes 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:54.680 they call it imposter syndrome. 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:59.040 Now, honestly not really. I think when I started the company, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:05.880 it was big time for entrepreneurs and consumer LEDs like startups. 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:10.480 You know, everyone was starting a company Casper, Glossy, Egches, 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.959 but you know, all of these brands, and I thought, 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:18.520 I'm smart enough, like I can figure this out for 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:23.200 me again, problem solving, Like I love to problem solve. 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.760 Be a problem, it does not freak me out. I'm 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.840 like great new Oh my gosh. 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.320 I think I'm the opposite, Like give me a problem. 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.000 I'm like, oh my god, I can't. 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:33.480 Yeah. 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:37.640 And I think like a lot of entrepreneurs are that way. 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.520 They see problems. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.720 As like the next delicious, juicy thing they get to 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:46.800 say into And I still very much am that way. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:51.840 And so every obstacle was this exciting like next phase 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.720 of the business that I had to figure out and 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.680 could I figure out the puzzle pieces and the challenge 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:58.560 and make. 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.000 It all work, so. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.000 It is like a puzzle. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:02.360 I like love it. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.800 Yeah yeah. Do you think like you talked about the 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:11.240 thickening of your skin do you in reality TV? Do 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.400 you think that helped you in founding your own business 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:20.240 or did it like discourage people from taking you seriously? 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.800 Like you know, what were you up against in that respect? 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.120 A double sided coin. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:29.120 Certainly, the first few years of my business, I think 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.440 there was like a quiet audience that was like, oh 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.640 my god, solutions for my problems because the business was 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.440 profitable kind of at game. 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:45.640 But media, like media and social media, I think, question the. 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:51.000 Validity of the need for these types of products. And 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.400 I think in general people were like, oh, like feminine care, 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.720 that's like not that feminist. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.280 But the reality is is that in these bodies. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:05.040 We have problems and we deserve to have clean, effective 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:09.400 solutions that are science fact that actually work. And I 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:13.320 try to explain to people that have not had a 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.960 vactional health issue and they think that these types of 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:20.640 products are irrelevant and misogynistic or whatever, and it's like, well, 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.160 you haven't had that experience, and so how can you 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.440 even like form an opinion about it, right, do. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:27.760 You even have vagina? 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.840 Yeah, But it's like just because you haven't experienced it 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:36.680 and you don't think it's important, like that invalidates the 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.440 experience of other women who maybe are not brave enough 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:43.960 to talk about this, right, because I think I understood 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.720 through the growth of the business that there certainly were 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.120 a lot of women who were silently suffering. So I 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.600 think the media and people in social media were like, 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:57.960 what the hell. But a lot of people, I think, 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:03.240 really her me through my storytelling and they saw themselves 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.600 in me. And if you look at all of our 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.280 reviews since day one, everyone is telling their story. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:09.840 Right. 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:14.560 I told my story and they felt compelled to share 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.920 their story in return, and how much our products actually 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:23.359 helped them. And I think now the women's woman's category, 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:25.280 we sort of like gave birth. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:31.080 To it perfect and now that category, like the feminine 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.680 care isle, the beautyisle, looks totally different than it did 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:35.880 a decade ago because. 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.720 All of this new innovation, Yeah, does help women's bodies. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.000 I mean just women's health in general is starting to, 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.240 you know, get the money and attention that it needs, 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:51.080 the funding that it's always deserved. So now is the time. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.160 But you, yeah, you started early, you had the baby 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:56.240 when you were young. 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:01.040 You know. I was like, personally, I have really sensitive skin, 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:02.679 I've a really sensitive body. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.360 But I was like, I want to. 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.160 Feel confident in my body, and you know, the right 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.320 things aren't out there. You know, all of these doctors 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.760 have told me it's because all of these ingredients are 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:16.320 in these products. So my gosh, why can't I create 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:17.920 products in a different way? 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.199 Yeah, for sure. And you were having these problems, and 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.560 so I'm sure you thought like, there must be other 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.600 women that are having these same problems, and this is 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:27.480 why I need to do this. 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.560 Yes, back then it was I didn't know how to 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.280 like do consumer research back then. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:33.800 Now I do. 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.880 A learning curve, a learning curve, a learning. 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:42.600 Curve, right, But I just I felt really passionate about it, 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:47.679 and I felt like I wanted to make things that 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:53.680 could empower women. And these things in some way, shape 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.120 or form had helped me in my own life, right, 0:18:56.160 --> 0:19:02.200 but they weren't necessarily mainstream. And so yeah, I mean 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:07.040 like I wasn't taken seriously at first, but now the 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:11.040 story is very different. I think if you tell your 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:15.199 authentic story for long enough and it's real and the 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:19.919 things that you make work. Then eventually the people that 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.480 they used to laugh at you see you at Walmart 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:25.440 and they're like, oh, I used to make fun of 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.720 that girl, but I can't anymore. 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.240 Oh my gosh, that's that's so good. 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.600 I still can It's you know they still do, but 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:34.439 they still can't. 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:44.560 But who's laughing now? Is the thing. So you've really 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.840 been brave, like you were saying and sharing your authentic stories. 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.640 You've been documenting and sharing about your endometriosis diagnosis, and 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:54.840 I would love for you to sort of share with 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.840 our audience. How did you find out that you had 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:03.920 endometriosis and were you like suffering for years without even 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:04.679 knowing what it was? 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:09.280 Yes, So it turns out I was and I wasn't 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:14.120 ever able to like look at my matrix of symptoms. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:17.120 I mean, no doctor either be. 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:18.520 Like it's this right. 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:22.439 So the thing about endometriosis, the stats say one in 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:27.240 ten habit doctors believe it's way higher. But there's no 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:31.760 real test for endometriosis. You have to have surgery to 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.320 open you up to get a visual confirmation for a dice. 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:42.120 Why because the technology doesn't exist there are some things 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.439 that you know are happening in the research world from 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:48.920 an ENDO perspective, that hopefully will change that down the road, 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:53.200 But right now there's no true test that just blood 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:58.320 tests or they can be like, you have enometriosis. And 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:01.240 what's challenging about and know is that it's a chronic 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.879 inflammatory disease. So there is no cure for ENDO, and 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.359 there is no good test for ENDO except like literally 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:09.480 a surgeon being like, yep, she's got it. 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:10.600 How do they wait? 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:10.760 Wait? 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:12.720 Wait, how do they when they look in there? How 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:13.159 do they know? 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:18.720 So endometriosis presents visually as like little dots, little things 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:22.800 like in your u like on your uterus, on your ovaries, 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:28.160 in your pelviskay, So visually you can see it typically 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:30.760 and it looks different. It can look like kind of 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:34.439 stringy like spider webby white, or it can be like 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:39.080 little tiny black dots kind of all together, and it 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.320 is uterine cells that have escaped and are like growing outside. 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.960 Of the uterus, and they don't know quite like how 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:45.520 that happens. 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:51.480 So anyway, I started like my own fertility journey and 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.879 it connects. I swear when I was thirty three, I 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.320 did my first egger tree bowl because I was like 0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:01.240 single in the middle of my thirties and I thought, well, 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.199 I better do this because I don't want to have children. 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.440 So I did my first type retrieval. My amh was 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.240 well like it was a fine retrieval. I did another 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:15.600 one at thirty five it was worse, and when I 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:17.760 met my fiancee, we were like, we better go see 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:19.359 the doctor and just to do a check up and 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.159 see how things are going, because we would like to 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.520 have a family together. And the doctor said, before we 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.919 go any further, I would like to just run some 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:31.320 tests to see if there's anything in your makeup that 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:34.960 maybe would be preventative for you, like preventing you from 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.119 getting pregnant, or how do you be and you know, 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:40.760 so she checked for like lupus and like all these things, 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.359 doing blood work. But then there is a biopsy you 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:49.360 can do, a uterine biopsy. It is so painful. It's 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:52.160 called the receptive of biopsy, and they basically. 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:55.960 Put a thing into your uterus while you're awake under 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:59.320 no oh my god pain relief. You're awake, and they 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.439 like scoop out a little bit of your uterus, okay, 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:04.400