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Speaker 1: All right, it's forty nine er week. It is Thursday

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Speaker 1: night football, and so we're here early a Tuesday edition

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Speaker 1: of Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers.

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Speaker 1: I'm JB. Long with my longtime best friend Marco Farri, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: and my new sworn enemy who I will not speak

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Speaker 1: to during this entire show, Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, he's dead. Talk your trash.

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Speaker 3: Too, Come on, man, Oh Indiana the Dame of the College. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's not. Yes, Brandon. For me, I was just trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out. I'm like, oh im possibly miss like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's right.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the party. Yes, December twenty.

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Speaker 1: That's right. You want to go?

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Speaker 3: Why not? Let's do it?

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Speaker 1: You and me on the way to what the meadowlands?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean perfect.

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Speaker 3: Just make a stop in Chicago, drive to south.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you think of that sooner?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna check the weather first before I make good

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Speaker 1: on that invitation. But let's talk after the show. Even

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Speaker 1: though we're not talking. How you guys doing.

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Speaker 2: Good man psych stuff? Yeah? Psike, still buzzing off Sunday

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Speaker 2: and trying to get your mind right for Thursday. It

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Speaker 2: is forty nine er week. Like you said, it's it's

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Speaker 2: a lot at stake. Always when you play that team

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Speaker 2: up North, it's always gonna be something knock down, drag out.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, it just seems like this one has

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Speaker 2: a little bit more spice in it than normal. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna spend a lot of time on the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Of course, this is a preview edition

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Speaker 1: of Week fifteen. We're gonna go inside the race for

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Speaker 1: the division, the NFC West. We're down to the final

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Speaker 1: four games. We'll look at remaining schedules, who's got the

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Speaker 1: best path. But that game was so good, so good

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Speaker 1: on Sunday that I think will devote a significant portion

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Speaker 1: looking back to Buffalo, not to bask in the win necessarily,

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Speaker 1: but to figure out what to take from it.

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Speaker 2: Why not basket, let's say, ante, I mean, it's a

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Speaker 2: short week, That's that's the worst thing about a short

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Speaker 2: week is we don't get the basket in that because

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Speaker 2: you just beat arguably the best team in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So I texted you guys this morning to that point,

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Speaker 1: like there was so much good data to come out

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Speaker 1: of that, Like what was your favorite stat nugget?

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Speaker 3: Pull through.

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Speaker 1: Where does your mind go.

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Speaker 3: Well, mine's going to be very simple, but I went

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Speaker 3: to the one hundred and thirty seven rushing yards and

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Speaker 3: the rushing yards the Rams had one week thirteen against

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Speaker 3: the Saints, one thirty seven again against the Bills. Seen

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Speaker 3: the success the run games had and what that's meant

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Speaker 3: for play action and just this offense as a whole. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, simple but to me effective

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Speaker 3: and tells part of the story with why this offense

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Speaker 3: has been clicking last time.

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Speaker 2: No desks. There's nine guys in the NFL right now

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Speaker 2: that have a thousand rushing yards and Kiren's one of them,

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Speaker 2: and he's got twelve rushing touchdowns. That's that's all. Anytime

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Speaker 2: you run the ball great. But from that game, my

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could say that on both sides. Both

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks were fantastic, but for this line, this quarterback, this

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Speaker 2: system to give up no sacks and I think it

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Speaker 2: O line. Great job by Matthew Stafford keeping yourself upright

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Speaker 2: and protecting yourself. But great job by the old line

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Speaker 2: going nose to nose with a pretty good Buffalo defense

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Speaker 2: and coming away with zero sacks allowed. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no bad choices here. I went eleven for

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Speaker 1: fifteen on third down, the highest conversion rate of the

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay era. The Rams had really been struggling in

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Speaker 1: that regard, and even on their first possession right like

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Speaker 1: the Bills win the coin toss elected defer. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: great because there's only one path of victory here. It's

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Speaker 1: to win from in front. But if you don't convert

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Speaker 3: This is true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the other best stat is forty four

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Speaker 2: tell us more. That's the points. Yeah, that's the only

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at my phone to make sure that I

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Speaker 1: can share our production staffs pick for this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because Rudy and Bing and Fair and Tim, they do

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Speaker 2: Historic. How about that? Yeah? Historic, historic, unreal. I love

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Speaker 2: the way coach McVeigh put it. That guy was an

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Speaker 2: alien and you he was. You out that he was unreal,

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Speaker 2: and you outlasted him and you beat him. So that's

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Speaker 1: All right, let's play fill in the blank. If I

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Speaker 1: said a sentence something the effect of, now that you

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Speaker 1: know the twenty twenty four Rams offense can do that,

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Speaker 2: Score forty four points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now that you know, Now that you know the

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Speaker 2: Uh, let me see protect like that. I'll keep going

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Speaker 2: back to that is, if you can keep Stafford that

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Speaker 2: know who stops you. If Puka and Nakua can be,

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Speaker 2: if you can protect like that, then yeah, the Rams

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Speaker 3: if they can run the ball like that. I mean

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Speaker 3: the sticks. Goes back to the third down conversion rate. Sure,

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Speaker 3: you know it wasn't the most efficient day last week obviously,

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Speaker 2: I know what you're gonna say, but go ahead call it. No,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I think fans of this show might remember me saying

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Speaker 1: in previous weeks that what I liked about where the

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Speaker 1: The defense has some flaws they've come to the surface.

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Speaker 1: But thankfully that performance on Sunday makes me believe that

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Speaker 1: an offensive driven team, because in the end, I think

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Speaker 1: I believe that in my bones, and I think when

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Speaker 1: the pass rush for the Rams is not terminating, there's

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Speaker 2: If you weren't facing a Martian that's at least seven sacks.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got to him. You touched him on

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Speaker 2: It just didn't stop him. So I wouldn't say they

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Speaker 2: then so be it, because we've been begging for end

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to McVeigh in just a second. That's

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Speaker 1: part of my McVeigh monologue that's coming. But the reason

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Speaker 1: I bring up the defense is because you look at

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Speaker 1: what's left. Yeah, Purty and the Niners top ten offense,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're finding their best stride right now.

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Speaker 1: Say what you will about the Jets. I know they've

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Speaker 1: gonna have your hands full. Kyler and the Cardinals still

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Speaker 1: You need more of that than what we saw on

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Speaker 2: Offense, Yeah, that was a buzzkill. There goes Buffalo right there.

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Speaker 2: But no, I mean San Francisco this offense this week,

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Speaker 2: So you don't get the rest just because you beat Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: you have to even take it up a notch. But

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Speaker 2: I do I agree with you one hundred percent. This

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Speaker 2: should be an offensive led football team. And if the

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Speaker 2: I guess, reach your potential as a twenty twenty four

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Speaker 3: The other thing about the San Francisco offense too, is

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Speaker 3: they've been able to produce in this way despite not

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Speaker 3: having Brandon Aiyuk season ending knee injury in Week seven,

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Speaker 3: and you know, debo not producing at the level that

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Speaker 3: most people, I would say, are accustomed to. I mean

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Speaker 3: I mean they've been, you know, still able to have

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Speaker 3: some pretty good performances here.

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Speaker 2: Oh we know Jennings, yep, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, mister talk radio. Oh whatever, Well, I know

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Speaker 1: that you've been battling, you've been finding a good fight.

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Speaker 1: Now that Sean mcface got it and we know that

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Speaker 1: he still got it. How was your Monday Tuesday show?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this was the funny one today. They thought

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Speaker 2: that Sean McVay like had unveiled some new playbook. I

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Speaker 2: don't think it's a new playbook. I think they're executing

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Speaker 2: better and they're getting better protection. So it looks like

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Speaker 2: there's a different offense. But some of their points they're

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Speaker 2: they're they're valid. We said this on game day when

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Speaker 2: two two's out there, it seems like good things happen.

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Speaker 2: DeMarcus Robinson's having a great year. It's not just Pooka

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Speaker 2: and Cooper Cup. There's a lot of guys having a

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Speaker 2: great year. But when you get that protection up front

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Speaker 2: and you're blocking the run, well you have the benefit

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Speaker 2: of play action. It looks like magic or looks like

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Speaker 2: something new, but it's the same plays. They're just being

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Speaker 2: run better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but when's the last time you saw ten personnel?

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what the streak has been about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he just had to be better. Like going back

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Speaker 2: one minute two seconds in the first quarter. One, that's

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Speaker 2: But secondly, if he's a little more accurate on that

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Speaker 3: I think a big piece to that too, has been,

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Speaker 2: That's why I give Kyron some dat on thousand yards

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Speaker 2: still churning out some yards. So that has to affect

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Speaker 1: You know where I see your point is in the

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Speaker 1: they went to empty. His number is an empty last week.

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Speaker 1: That's like, we don't want him to fall in love

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Speaker 1: These forty nine ers, like, those are all good things,

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Speaker 2: The fort I don't mind him falling in love with

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Speaker 2: great stats. I really don't. Yeah, if it's working, fall

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, filling this plank for me, Puka is

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Speaker 2: I'll you go first, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it. Top five.

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Speaker 1: That's where i am.

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Speaker 2: Top five receiver. Is that what you meant? Is he

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Speaker 1: Top is he top three? Is he all Pro? Is

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Speaker 2: So I think he's one of the best one of

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Speaker 2: So I mean, how do you guard that and if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's still that shortlist. What you just referenced,

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Speaker 1: That's undisputed. I also want to talk Cooper Cup here

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Speaker 2: In a movie about him, toy story. He's woody right now, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: then that means Cooper singled up. And if you think

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Speaker 2: same stuff we just said about him. We could say

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Speaker 1: That's why I was careful to mention it now, because

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of the smartest receivers in the

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Speaker 3: And so good to have somebody like that out there

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Speaker 2: Love it. Okay, So put your second best corner on

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Speaker 1: Good luck.

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Speaker 2: That's good luck with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the third on de Marcus and your fourth

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Speaker 1: That's why the Rams are sitting here at seven and

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Speaker 2: The block was unreal, asked Humble about that, and the

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Speaker 2: And we see you Weddington, that's it. You're that close.

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Speaker 2: on that first one right and almost took one to

440
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 2: the house. If he keeps his feet, he is gone.

441
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,439
Speaker 2: But I think at this point you're gonna respect him

442
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 2: a little bit and make him down it. You're gonna

443
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 2: have to. I mean, at some point watch, I think

444
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,679
Speaker 2: he may wind up taking one back for the not

445
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 2: the distance, or at least have a big return that

446
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,160
Speaker 2: flips field position like that, And it could happen on Thursday.

447
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,480
Speaker 1: All right, last thing on Buffalo, and then we're going

448
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 1: to get to the division and the San Francisco forty

449
00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 1: nine ers. But one of my lasting takeaways, you know,

450
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 1: those like grinch green cleats that Josh Allen was wearing.

451
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the.

452
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,439
Speaker 1: Game, my lasting visual is him lifting that cleat to

453
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 1: call for a silent count. Snap. Here's where I'm going.

454
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,679
Speaker 1: Two road games followed by two gotta have at home games,

455
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,120
Speaker 1: and so my appeal to our audience here is if

456
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 1: you are of means, and if you love the Rams,

457
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 1: can you please be there week seventeen and week eighteen

458
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 1: at Sofi Stadium Because what does it mean in terms

459
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 1: of that silent count environment. What if you are one

460
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 1: of the reasons the Rams are able to win this

461
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 1: NFC West and host Let's just say the Green Bay

462
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: Packers in a playoff game in January. That's the opportunity

463
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,919
Speaker 1: in front of you Rams fans. Let me encourage you

464
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: to do it.

465
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 2: How do I say this? So Jared Versu and Braden

466
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 2: Fisk are having great rookie seasons, right, Imagine how much

467
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 2: better they would be if there was crowd noise, lots

468
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 2: of it where you couldn't hear. I don't think you'd

469
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 2: block them. Think about that. You want to make the

470
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 2: playoffs show up? And so far help out Verse, Well,

471
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 2: he'll pay you back with a sack or two.

472
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 3: Well, when other teams, when the opponent gives him motivation,

473
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 3: it already takes his game up another level. Just think

474
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 3: of the Vikings game and the in the skull chap

475
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 3: that happened while a player was a teammate was the

476
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 3: field injured. Imagine if he had like the most if

477
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 3: he if he got support from the crowd or if

478
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 3: it was like crowd noise that really fired up him

479
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 3: up and added.

480
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 2: To that, Wow, yeah, I'm with you. I'm glad you

481
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 2: said that. Yeah, real Rams fans, let's be there, yes, sir.

482
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 1: To the division. What a finish, What a setup by

483
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: the league schedule makers. See the Hawks on top at

484
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: eight and five, followed by the Rams at seven and six,

485
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: Niners in Cardinals City and at six and seven, Stu,

486
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: you want to take the baton here, you want to

487
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: lay this out. I know you were studying a little

488
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: bit before our show. What do you make of the

489
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: state of the NFC West as we hit the final month?

490
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's there for it's there for the

491
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 3: taking for anybody at this point, still as wide open

492
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 3: as it's been, and I mean those last four weeks.

493
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 3: I will say this, just looking ahead to some of

494
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: the other divisional opponents and you know who they have left,

495
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 3: it makes me glad that we got the NFC North

496
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 3: out of the way. Interesting because just seeing I want

497
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 3: to say, it's it's Seattle that still has Green Bay,

498
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 3: Minnesota left over.

499
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 1: The next band Minnesota at Chicago before the finale.

500
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 3: It's so far. Yeah, so yeah, and knowing how tough

501
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 3: that division has been, I'm very thankful that that's out

502
00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:00,120
Speaker 3: of the way, so up for grabs. And there's you know,

503
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 3: kind of like we were talking about earlier. I mean,

504
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 3: there's implications here that, you know, you win Thursday year,

505
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: you're in position to potentially get the three seater or

506
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: the four seat, depending on what happens this weekend, and

507
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 3: be firmly in the in the playoff seating here.

508
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: Wow, you know I'm only thinking of one team, right

509
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: I knew I wouldn't be able to get you past

510
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: one right now.

511
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look about this. How much more would you

512
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: like to watch Red Zone and Sunday Night Football this

513
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: weekend coming off a win?

514
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's what I'm hoping for. That's what we're

515
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: darn near praying for. But I mean, you got to

516
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: get by this football team. This is a big It

517
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 2: would be a big psychological jump for you if you

518
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 2: can get past San fran and then you bootstrap that

519
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: to what you did versus Buffalo. Come on, I mean,

520
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: you're flying high, and not only that, you send the

521
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 2: message to Arizona, to Seattle that this is a different

522
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: team than what you saw the first time. So yeah,

523
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you get past san Fran, more people will

524
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 2: be talking about you. Then you get their best shot.

525
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 2: And like we said, if any team in the NA

526
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: Sea West is playing at their best outside of frame

527
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 2: when they're healthy, I still think you have the best

528
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: quarterback and the best roster. So if you're playing your best,

529
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: the best should win that game. So get past san

530
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: Fran and like I said, we'll see what happens after.

531
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Speaker 1: Just to tie it back to last week's show, what

532
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: we said is that beating Buffalo is not the game

533
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: the Rams had to have. Being Buffalo gave the Rams

534
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: margin for air. They earned themselves the mulligan. To use

535
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: my favorite sport, golf as the analogy, but when I play,

536
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: you can't take a mulligan to the eighteenth t You

537
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: got to use it, but you can't use it on eighteen.

538
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: The eighteenth is Seattle. You gotta win that one. Yeah,

539
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 1: that's the one you gotta win. As long as you

540
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: do that, you can afford to lose exactly as many

541
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: games as the Seahawks between now and then and be

542
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: NFC West champions.

543
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 2: And I like the fact they have to come here. Yeah,

544
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: I love the fact that they have to come down here.

545
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, winning the West is the goal, but

546
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: I also want to focus on this moment. I know

547
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: we all do. I wait for this all year, don't

548
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: you what? Going to San fran When the schedule is

549
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: announced in early May and you see week fifteen Thursday

550
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: night football in San Jose Santa Clara. Didn't that keep

551
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: you up all night?

552
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: Yes? Anytime, but yes, especially this year's schedule. Seeing where

553
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 2: they put this game, Yeah, it did raise an eyebrow,

554
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: but it is what it is. They're coming off a

555
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: short week two, so let's just get after it. It's

556
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: another matchup between awesome them and I can't wait to

557
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: get to it.

558
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: Well, and especially less season two. I mean, it feels

559
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: like it's at least the second straight year that you know,

560
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: the second matchup between these two teams has had some

561
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 3: sort of you know, meaningful implication in December or January,

562
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: which is awesome.

563
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: The only thing I dislike about the week is that

564
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: there's not enough days between Buffalo and the flight to

565
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: see prepare for it, right to talk about it, because again,

566
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 1: making the playoffs is the ultimate goal. But let's call

567
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: it what it is, beating the Niners and sweeping them

568
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: for the first time since twenty eighteen. That guarantees you

569
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: a good offseason, guarantees it eliminating your bitter rival as

570
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: a stepping stone potentially to winning your division.

571
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to smile, man.

572
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure anything shy of like an NFC championship

573
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: is going to hold a candle to that. That's the

574
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: opportunity in front of the Los Angeles Rams this.

575
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: Week, no doubt, the goal is Lombardy and to get

576
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: there you got to beat them. And to like you said,

577
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: to sweep them would be absolutely sweet because who knows,

578
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: I mean, their window, everybody's window is closing. Who knows

579
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 2: what that does to them? Which is awesome?

580
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: Am I the only one that feels that way? Though?

581
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: Like the schedule comes out and they're like, Okay, what's

582
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: your what game you're looking forward to most this year?

583
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: Without even pausing Week three, San Francisco at Sofar? Okay,

584
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: what's your second favorite game? Week fifteen, Thursday Night Football

585
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: at Levi's No doubt. Yep, here comes part two. I'll

586
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 1: say this though, expect the ringing NFC champions on Thursday?

587
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

588
00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: Oh?

589
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: Version of a shot. Did you watch you watch Chicago yet?

590
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you're gonna get their best shot. And they're

591
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: starting to click again. And I don't like the fact

592
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: that Deebo Samuel is starting to pop off now really,

593
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: so he's gonna get fed come Thursday, which is the

594
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: last thing you want to see.

595
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: How you make him getting community.

596
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: NOWE absolutely, when he starts chirping, that means he gets

597
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: the rock the next game out, so that means us

598
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: so let's have fun.

599
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: That's like the the Marvin Harrison Cardinals week two. That's

600
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: a version of the San Francisco forty nine ers. I

601
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: wish he would have waited another week, but so be it.

602
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: I'll say this telling Nohufunga's back, Yeah, that's huge. I'm

603
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: expecting Trent Williams and Bosa and Greenlaw and Grenda. They're

604
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: all gonna play. It's proven otherwise. Brandon Auk might go,

605
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm keeping Christian McCaffrey on my board.

606
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: What you're expecting everybody? I like it.

607
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice might make it cast. Oh, come on, I

608
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: watched Niners Bears this morning and it sent a cold

609
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: shiver down my spine. Did because you know what really

610
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: is back their screen game. Huh yards after catch? Yes,

611
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: George Kittle, like that was ridiculous. One week after whatever

612
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: that was in Buffalo that we watched on the plane

613
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: coming home from New Orleans, that team last week, i'llbe

614
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: it against the Bears looked like the reigning NFC champions.

615
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 2: The Kittle is ridiculous what they can do with him,

616
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: But just that production and their precision, you can tell

617
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: they don't waste time at practice. They're very efficient at

618
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: what they do and it transfers to game day. I

619
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: don't know what was more impressive watching their offense or

620
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: their their pass rush. Watching Bosa good after you you know,

621
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: just watching tape of him is freaking scary to be honest.

622
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, this, like you said, you should expect the

623
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: best forty nine Ers squad that you've seen all year,

624
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 2: and I think they should expect the best Ram squad

625
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: they seem all year. So this is gonna be a

626
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: great Thursday night.

627
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: And your old friend Leonard Floyd too.

628
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: Man, you can't count him out. That dude is like

629
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 2: he's the best cleanup hitter I think I've seen in

630
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: a lot long time where he just knows where to

631
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: be and where to stand and also can beat you

632
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: one on one. So yeah, both sides, both tackles have

633
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: their hands full this week.

634
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: There's that Juan Jennings problem too, going back to Week three,

635
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they made him look like Ayuk as I

636
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: recall it. So if I stadium, he had another great

637
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: game against the Bears.

638
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: To yees seven catches for ninety yards and a pair

639
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: of touchdowns, and yeah, I immediately got flashbacks to the

640
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: first matchup between these two teams and the production he had.

641
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: And so yeah, he's still very much a real threat,

642
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: and he feels like he's stepped up even with Ayuk

643
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 3: being out with that knee injury. And I'm hoping that,

644
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: you know, obviously it's a little bit you know different

645
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: this time. Hopefully there's been some lessons learned from you know,

646
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: that previous matchup in terms of finding ways to defend him.

647
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: You know, hopefully having Darius Williams in this matchup will

648
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: help a lot more given some of the ways they

649
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: were having to defend.

650
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: A good point. Okay, so he was on injury reserve

651
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: in the first month of the season. That brings me

652
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: to this week's injury report, and I know there's more

653
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: mystery then clarity here as we gather on this Tuesday,

654
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: we won't hear from Sean mcvaig again until postgame correct

655
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: at LEVI. So what do we know about gosh, anyone

656
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Speaker 1: from say Kobe Durant to Tyler Higbee and the chances

657
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Speaker 1: that we could see the Rams at full strength Thursday.

658
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so those are these those are two of the

659
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: main ones. You know, Higbee, we'll see, is what Sean

660
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: McVay said as far as his availability for this week.

661
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 3: You know, last week he was pretty clear that, you know,

662
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: look at for however, Higbee has looked and you know

663
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 3: clips and whatever that's been out there from practice there,

664
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Speaker 3: they've still wanted to take their time with him. And

665
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: as the three of us know this, this training staff

666
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: and this coaching staff are always big on return to

667
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: play versus return to performance. Return to performance is always

668
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: the standard for yeah, finally putting someone back out there.

669
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Speaker 3: So we'll see if that's this week. Obviously it'd be

670
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: good to have him if he's available, but you know,

671
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: if not, you're going to be you know, looking at,

672
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: you know, asking more from obviously as you have already

673
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: you know, Kobe Parkinson, Harlong and Davis Allen and then

674
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: with Kobe Durant one contusion from the Bills game, and

675
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: so his status you know, is still to be determined

676
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Speaker 3: for Thursday. Was interesting that McBay mentioned that depending on

677
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: Kobe's availability, that could potentially impact Emmanuel Forbes and his

678
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: status or I should say him potentially making his Rams

679
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 3: debut as soon as this Thursday. So we'll see how

680
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: that shakes out.

681
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Speaker 1: You know, at least we know what it looks like

682
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: without Tyler Higby because of the unfortunately large sample size

683
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: so far this season. But DeMarco, what if Durant can't go,

684
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: because I think he's become the Rams' best corner. He's

685
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: put together some really nice performances, especially in light of

686
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 1: this style offense you're about to face. How does that

687
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: impact what you're gonna do?

688
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: If you're Chris Shula, I feel bad for him because

689
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: I think he's having a great season and he's been

690
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: a lot tougher against the run than he has been

691
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: in seasons past. But you do have some options behind.

692
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: You still have Kello Weatherspoon, you just had, you just

693
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: added Forbes, so there's some other guys that can step

694
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: in for you. But just as far as how he

695
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: was playing with Darius Williams. You hate it that Kobe

696
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: Durant got hurt for this one, and I hope he plays,

697
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: but if he doesn't, you have some guys that have

698
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: played this year, and you have, like you said, a

699
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: former first rounder you just picked up to go out

700
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: there and cover and play. But if you're Chris Shula,

701
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: I don't think you change anything. I think you keep

702
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: your foot on the gas and you call what you've

703
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: been calling, and it's been working. The communication in the

704
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: back end has been great. Safety to the corner to

705
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: linebacker to defensive front has been exemplary. They haven't made

706
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: a ton of mistakes. So I don't think this changes

707
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: Chris Shula at all. If you have to lose one

708
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: of your corners.

709
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: What about keys to victory, then to beat the San

710
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers, to extend the winning streak, to

711
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: continue to control your NFC West destiny.

712
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: Well, because I've been talking about running the ball so

713
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: much already, I'll just go with that only because you know,

714
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: you look back at those games against Buffalo and Green

715
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: Bay that San Francisco had again, health I would say

716
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: was a fat that in part, but the way the

717
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: Packers ran the ball against the Niners, the way the

718
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: Bills ran the ball against the Niners. Like again, the

719
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: Niners run defense was impacted in part by not having

720
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: a fully healthy group, but that was one of the

721
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: ways that they were those two teams were able to

722
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: separate from San Francisco in those matchups. Beyond that, to me,

723
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Speaker 3: if you can keep that momentum going from these last

724
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 3: two weeks, have like I talked about earlier, with just

725
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: again having those play action opportunities and keeping that pressure

726
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: off of Stafford being efficiently early downs to get those

727
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: third down conversions or make those more manageable. It starts

728
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: with that for me.

729
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: Hmm, I think this is where we start talking about

730
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: off ball linebacker again because of what they do and

731
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: they're so good at like negating your front. Even when

732
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: Aaron was here, when they ran the football, it almost

733
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: negated his ability. So this is a linebacking game. So

734
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Speaker 2: I would say keys to victory for me. If Space

735
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: and Rose Boom are your leading tacklers, I think you're

736
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: doing pretty good. If safeties are your leading tacklers, I

737
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: think you might have some issues. So those two guys

738
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: and like you said the screen game, it's going to

739
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: be ultra important for them to read, diagnose, and then

740
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: get to the ball. And that's just half of it.

741
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 2: Now you've got to get them on the ground. So

742
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: those two off ball guys, I think we'll tell the

743
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: story of this game.

744
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask you to give us defending screen

745
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: game coaching points here in a second, I'll give you mine.

746
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 1: It's Quinton Lake if for some reason Durank can't go.

747
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: I think this is where having a chess piece like

748
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: Captain Q who can play in the slot if need be,

749
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: who can let you leverage your safety, depth and clarity

750
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: maybe to your advantage in a game like this, Who

751
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: can combat at George Kittle, who can hopefully diagnose and

752
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: defend screen I think he might be my most important

753
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: player on Thursday Night Football. But let's go back to that.

754
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: If you're coaching this front on screen defense against the

755
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: forty nine ers who can throw it to their receivers,

756
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: they can throw it to their backs, including use check.

757
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of tight end to lay stuff

758
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: like Kitt'll just lingering around the line of screen image

759
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: coming free with blockers.

760
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, read and react. You got to read your keys,

761
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: and you got to have help from inside out so

762
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: as the front. And it was told to me when

763
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 2: I was a youngster, and I'm sure they're telling Verse

764
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: and Fisk and all the guys, even Kobe Turner. If

765
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: you're free in this league up front, you're free for

766
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: a reason. So if you think it was too easy

767
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 2: to get to brock Purty, it probably was turn around

768
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 2: and redirect and get back into pursuit because it's probably

769
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: going to be a screen. So those guys, those off

770
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: ball guys and Quentin Lake captain Q I love that

771
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: what you call them. Uh, they're going to be pursuing

772
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: over the top with blockers in front. So if they

773
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: can find a way to nuggy through and make a play,

774
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: that's half. You've got to have that inside outside pursuit.

775
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: So it's not just getting to the passer, it's redirecting,

776
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: getting downhill and getting that guy on the ground. It's

777
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: all eleven versus their screen game. They're that good at it,

778
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: so you need all eleven to stop it.

779
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: Final thoughts, I don't want to go. I want to well,

780
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: the one we avoided and we we keep avoiding it.

781
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: As Sean McVay keeps avoidant field goals. It's stole an

782
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: issue and this could come down to a field goal.

783
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: This is how tight this game could be. So whatever

784
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: it is, you've got to find a way to make

785
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: that ball go through the uprights.

786
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: Well, two things, Cardi's a Niner killer, we know that

787
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: a yes. And two I love the identity that Sean

788
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: McVay put out there. I mean his game management, clock

789
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: management personnal. I thought that was just as good a

790
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: game as I've seen from him in a long time

791
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: against the Buffalo Bills, Like the six point lead is

792
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: the worst lead in late game situations in the National

793
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: Football League, to the fact that he had no interest

794
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: in going up six with the field goal there, that

795
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: he stepped on the gas and went for fourth down

796
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: against Allen and the Bills coming the other way, Like

797
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: that was I felt like progress. That felt like the

798
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: right answer. Glad it paid off.

799
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Speaker 2: That's how you become great man. You got to hang

800
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: it all out there. Absolutely, yeah, I mean yeah, you

801
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: can tell when he's in his bag by the way

802
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: he strolls that sideline and he's got that look in

803
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: his eyes. So when he's ahead of you, as a

804
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: play caller on the other side, a DC, you've got problems.

805
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: The time you catch up, he's already to the counters.

806
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: So carry that to San Francisco and we'll see what.

807
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: And from Cardi's standpoint, don't take it as an indictment

808
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: or any loss of confidence. I mean, maybe that's where

809
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: it started. But have you seen what Matthew Stafford is

810
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: doing lately. Again, Let's keep the keys in the Hall

811
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback's hands and take our chances as opposed

812
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: to rolling the dice, maybe in the rain on the

813
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: road with a rookie place game.

814
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: Amen. Yeah, bro, Yeah, Like I said, my favorite stat

815
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: zero no sacks. Keep that guy up, you got you

816
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: got stuff.

817
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fun and I know there's even better

818
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: to come. Thank you, Stu, even though we're not really friends.

819
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: Talk man, get him. Look at you. Look at that.

820
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 2: That's that Indiana stare.

821
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: That's a quiet confidence that makes me nervous that Sue's

822
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: got something up his sleeve for South Bend.

823
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: Demarko going to be with you always, man.

824
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: All right, for these two and all the people who

825
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: make this show possible. Thank you for joining us for

826
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Speaker 1: a special Tuesday addition leading into Thursday Night football of

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Speaker 1: Between the Horns, still presented by your Southern California Toyota dealers,