WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Jim Jackson, Jake from State Farm 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.440 Sports Radio. It's the final hour on this meet Friday. 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.320 We're down to Danette. Fritzy is out again today. We 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:13.720 hope he's feeling better and join us on Monday. But 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.120 it is a meat Friday and the Tragger girls are 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:20.079 fired up, and so are we. Smoked Italian meat balls, 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.239 sweet and hot Italian. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:26.320 Sausage, baked cheesy garlic bread. Who has it better than 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:33.560 we do? No, No, that didn't sound enthusiastic. Let's try again. 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:35.559 Who has it better than we do? 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:37.920 Nobody there? 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.120 That sounds like you're not taking this for granted. It 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.040 does mean something to you. 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Jake from State Farm is 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:28.920 going to join us, coming up here in a little bit. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.959 And one of our favorite analysts, Jim Jackson from Turner 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.920 and Fox Sports. He is covering the NCAA tournament. All right, 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:38.280 seet what do we have for the final line? 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.080 We've got two up there right now, Dan, who's having 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.520 a worse twenty four hours? Shohotani or John Calpari. Right 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.839 now it is fifty two percent for the Kentucky head coach. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.480 And then the foul call at the end of the 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.840 Kansas Stanford game was the worst call in tournament history 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.280 or the worst call of all time any sport. Right now, 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:00.480 eighty eighty three percent have it as the worst in 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:01.600 tournament history. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.640 Nick and Wisconsin on that topic, I Nick, what's on 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:05.080 your mind? 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.560 Good morning? Five to eleven, two hundred pounds. 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.679 Are you scuba diving? Yeah? 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.560 Right? Long time official have been working high school basketball 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.240 for twenty years, fortunate to work five state championship games 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.679 and worked at the college level for seven years. I'm 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.320 curious on your take that we replay miss calls or 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:32.359 non calls by officials over and over and they are human, 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.440 no different than the players or the coaches. But we 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.920 never replay the turnover that caused the fasts break basket, 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.000 or a miss defensive assignment that left it open three, 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.440 or a substitute by a coach that was kind of 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:48.000 the wrong change. Why do we replay officials non calls 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.239 or miss calls over and over, but never the mistakes 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:52.560 the players or coaches made. 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:57.320 Well, you know, one of the most replayed plays is 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.080 Chris Webber calling a time out. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.240 After traveling. Yes, so we do show that. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:09.079 As far as a substitute, that's not really something exciting 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.920 where you go look at that he's substituting the wrong guy. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.320 This is a dramatic play at the end of the 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.840 game and maybe you have another upset. That's why it's 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:20.520 played over and over and over and over. If this 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.280 was a regular season game, it wouldn't get the coverage. 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.840 It's March madness. You're on a big stage. They missed 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.040 the call, yes, and it's not really seen this way. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.120 But you could say that every time you show a 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.360 walk off home run, you're showing a terrible pitch by 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.080 a pitcher, or every time you're showing somebody hit a 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.360 game winning three, you're showing bad defense by somebody who 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.840 didn't do their job. I mean you are showing somebody's 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:44.760 failure in all of those moments. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:50.200 Yeah, Jack Goalkey, we're showing reed Shepherd played bad defense then. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.640 Being absolutely cooked by a forty seven year old accountant. 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:58.320 If you sign up for the job. Wait, what did 0:03:58.360 --> 0:03:59.000 you just call me? 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:01.640 Looks like a thirty six year old golf pro. 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:05.600 He's got the same bags under his eyes that I do. Wow. 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:08.800 If Seaton Shade, he look younger than Jack Old. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:17.320 Okay, doesn't Jack Golkie have Dan Akroyd's haircut? Sure, Tommy 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.760 Boy Ghostbusters. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.239 Yeah, Tommy Boy, where it's very up and very severe. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:27.880 Yeah, look at dan Akroyd's haircut in Ghostbusters. No, Tommy Boy, 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.000 I think it's more Tommy Boy. Did he go in 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.640 and say, oh, take the dan Aykroyd Tommy Boy haircut? 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.240 So are compared to Bill Paxton the actor with the hair, 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:38.800 the tight hair, brown hair. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.960 Okay, he's not lacking confidence. Here is the Oakland Star 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:44.719 after putting away Kentucky. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.120 Obviously, we come in with the underdog by all measures, 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.320 but you just gotta as a player, you can't think 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:53.920 that way. You gotta go out there and you got 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:55.640 to think that you have the same talent level as them. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.560 I know they have draft picks, and I know I'm 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.920 not going to the NBA, but I know on any 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.880 give a night, I can compete with those type of guys, 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.760 and our team can compete with those type of guys. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:05.800 And that's why I was so confident going into it. 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.760 And that's why I say we're not a Cinderella because 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.800 when we play our a game where we can be 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:10.760 the best team on the floor. 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.920 He took twenty threes, he made ten, he didn't take 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.160 twos and didn't have an assist. At some point does 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:21.920 Kentucky realize that might be the only thing that he 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:26.479 can do. But look, if Kentucky was surprised, then you 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.400 know that's on their coach. But we have talked a 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:33.680 lot about John Kella. Perry is the one and done philosophy, 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.880 blueprint done in college basketball. Let's bring in the great 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.880 Jim Jackson Fox Turner basketball analyst and he is in 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.360 Charlotte covering those games and joins us on the program. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.040 All right, where do you stand with Kentucky and the 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:49.200 one and done approach. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:55.080 Well, it's a little bit more i think convoluted than that, 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.640 just because it's been a while. When coaches wanted to 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.920 go young, they sort of to go young, you saw 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.200 it across the country. Then coaches wanted to get older 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.960 because they felt that that was the best way to win. 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.840 Now here's a bigger question too, Dan is with and 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.320 I try to ask questions like this with coaches when 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.400 I'm doing games, especially now in the tournament, but during 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.000 the season, how do you build a program? How do 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:24.680 you build culture? Now with nil and with the transfer 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.840 portal being so relevant, because before you know, you would 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.480 get a freshman and you say, okay, two or three freshmen, 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.680 and let's grow these young men. Let's build them by 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:37.000 the time they're south I mean juniors and seniors their season, 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.640 they know the program and of the culture, and we 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.360 have an older team, and then that just goes down 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.880 like Villanova, you know, would do that, Michigan State would 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:50.880 do that, Wisconsin schools like that, Gonzaga. The challenge today 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:56.120 is with freshmen, depending on their background, the patients part 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.240 to know that you may sit a little bit and 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.880 not play when in your ear other programs are saying, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.440 what you come here, you can play right away, And 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.919 that may be where programs with nil may have to 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:13.320 overpay to keep freshman in place to build that. So 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:18.240 with John Kylipiri, Listen, last year they lost to a 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:22.040 team that was a higher seed. So it's not just 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.680 well yet young guys this year. He had an older 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:30.000 team last year that lost, So it's and this team 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.840 here with these young freshmen. Let me tell you something 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.840 about Greg Campion Oakland. I've learned this over the years 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:41.240 covering him. Coaches in the industry love and respect and 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.160 hate him at the same time they don't want to 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.520 schedule him in a non commerence. I've been a lot 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.360 of games with Oakland, so it's against Michigan or Michigan 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:52.160 State where there's been so much respect for him. So 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.680 this is not a flul this is coaches No, he 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:59.240 can coach Okay, But to answer your question, it's been 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.560 that way in a way out in regards to just 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.360 a team full of freshmen thinking that you're going to win. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.360 Coaches have gotten off that train a while ago and 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:11.239 really search for the transfer portal to get old and stale. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:16.000 What would you do if you're Kentucky this situation with 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.000 coach count would you would you even be thinking about 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:19.920 making a change. 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.600 I would you have to because here's the thing about 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.040 You're paying coach cast a lot of money to win games. 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:29.720 This is Kentucky. You're thinking about national championship. But also 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.520 you're going to be conscious that you're not going to 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:36.000 win a national championship every year? But how do we compete? 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.760 How do we grow? Where's our where's the state of 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.880 our program? These are the questions that you have to ask. 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:42.880 We're going to be four or five years from that, 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.640 and who could be the successor? Is it a younger 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.080 individual that will grow with the new culture? And understand 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:51.560 where we want to go? These are all the things 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.560 that you have to understand. I just went through the 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:59.520 process with not myself, but with the new Ad Rossborg 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.800 president at Ohio State and in regards to evaluating where 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:05.920 the program wants to beget. We're not Kentucky from a 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.800 basketball perspective, but these are the questions that the same 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.000 ads across the country are asking. But I think it's 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.360 critical and I think now is a time that you 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.320 have to reevaluate and look at whether the state of 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.880 the program, whether that's cal they they're at Louisville, you 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.840 know what I mean, in different areas Ohio state. You 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:26.560 know what's out there in the market and who can 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.400 best fit us, not just for today but for the 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.400 next five or hopefully ten years. 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.240 I just think that, you know, building up and getting 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.559 that recruiting class as opposed to you know, going around 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.680 the country and saying, hey, I could get a shooting guard, 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.080 I can get a rebounder here. These guys are already 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.960 proven and nil. I mean, the transferred portal has changed 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.719 all of this. I would look at Villanova, what they've done. 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.800 I'd look at what Yukon's doing right in front of 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:52.520 us right now. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:53.559 It's nice. 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:57.360 It's nice to have potential, but potential, if they reach it, 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.120 they're probably only playing one year. And if I I'm 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.960 going to get somebody with experience who maybe understands they're 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.920 not an NBA player, That's where I'm going. 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.559 Well, but here's the thing, though, Dan, You're looking at 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:17.800 Villanova Yukon. They've already been built, so their culture was there, 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:22.480 but this year they got Cam Spencer at Yukon to 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.920 replace Hawkins and some guys. Okay, so they got one 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:30.360 transfer in that paid huge dividends. Talking to Tom Izo 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:34.440 at Michigan State, he's kind of in that in between 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.600 where he understands that he has some young guys that 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.480 he can grow, but that he may have to dip 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:45.040 his foot at some point into the transfer portal. It's 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.560 it's an interesting dynamic. Villanova is the same way this 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.800 year that have you know, three or four transfer they 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:56.040 came in. Yeah, okay that Kyle Neptune had to figure 0:10:56.040 --> 0:11:01.640 out how to build that program differently, and I don't 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.000 think you're going to be able to build it the 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.079 same way that you did before. Look Chris Jans for 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:11.960 Mississippi State, the coach there at a press conference, came 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.640 in and said, I'm not here to build a program. 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.280 I'm here to win. And if that means that every 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.280 year i'ma have to go to the transport portal and 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.200 look for a point guard for shooting guard, That's how 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.360 I see it as building. So everybody has their different 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.880 way of looking at it, Dan, but we're still evolving 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.440 into what NIL and this transport portal is ultimately going 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.480 to be. So we're not done yet it's still some 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.160 adjustice to a matrix. I believe that are going to 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.520 happen in the next few years. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.280 Talking to Jim Jackson, former NBA star, Ohio State star 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:47.240 and now working for Fox and Turner as a basketball analyst, 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.520 you know you, I don't know how much you got 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.480 to see with Jack Golki lighting up Kentucky. But like, 0:11:54.600 --> 0:12:00.280 guys get into the zone and it's just weird, go 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.960 like that feeling you get. You don't know how you 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:04.840 get into it or how you fall out of it. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.400 But he was in it, certainly in the first half. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:09.480 What is that feeling like? 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.080 It's nothing like it. It's nothing you to prepare for. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.960 I mean one time when I was my fifty point 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:20.839 game in Dallas, I was sick. The night before We're 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.360 playing in Denver. Couldn't sleep, you know, the altitude, it 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.760 was dry in my room, had a sinus infection. I 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:31.880 was up all night. I had had to actually turn 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.760 on the shower to let steam in in the room 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.080 so I could breathe a little bit. So the next 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:41.040 day practice, I mean, shoot around, I'm not feeling well, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.880 I'm dragging, But as a game, I got closer to 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.520 the game. I just felt relaxed. I didn't think about anything. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.640 I didn't know Ala have fifty. But once I started 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.480 to play, I just let the game take over. They 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.760 didn't think about it. And guys I've talked to are 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:59.040 guys I seen that have been in the zone. It's 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.560 just one of those things, is that, Dan, It's a 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.559 it's a euphoria you have. We don't even think about it. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:06.600 Body is just so real, like you just hope you're 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.920 just playing. And the teammates know it too. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.240 Okay, I was going to ask you that, Oh yeah. 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.200 Teammates and coaches know it. So we'll try to get 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.439 a player in the situation where the ball touches their 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:22.000 hand and you get guys easy shots. And then once 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.600 you start cooking sometimes bro you some of the shots, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.960 he said, you know, you just over two or three defended, 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.280 and the defense defense nothing you can do about it 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.880 unless you just all out faceguard. I mean, he never 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.840 touches the ball, which is virtually impossible because you're gonna 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.400 give up laps and everything else around the court. But 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:39.360 nothing like it, Dan. 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.600 We had Right Thompson, great writer from ESPN. He did 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:47.360 a profile on Caitlyn Clark and I said, you know, 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.400 who does she remind you of? And he said Kobe 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:55.080 with a ponytail, And he said that. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.760 From what perspective, was it her demeanor? What kill her attitude? Killer? 0:13:58.960 --> 0:13:59.280 Yeah? 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.760 Yeah, But you know, and here's the thing too. It's 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:06.560 funny because women's basketball has had this in the past, 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.960 but the the I think what's happening is in sports 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.640 today because of social media, because and io, because of sponsorship, 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.079 more eyes have been on it. Yet last year's National 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:24.080 Championship Game helped tremendously, But it's been Maya Moore, Brianna Store, 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:29.600 Candae Parker. It's been women's basketball players who have dominated 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.720 and played well and could have been in the same position. 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.560 And this is not taking anything away from Caitland Clark 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:41.480 that same situation, but the coverage, the intrigue wasn't the same. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.960 Does she have a story? It's a story there that 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.520 makes people want to follow. And the thing that I 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:52.480 hate is this, you can praise other athletes and other 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.320 players without tearing one down. And that's that's the tendency 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.720 of what has to happen. Well, Caitlyn Clark is this, 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.080 but she's not. That has nothing to do with it. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.640 She is her own entity. She's great at what she does. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.240 If you want to say another player is better, or 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.920 another player at a different time is butter, that's fine, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.400 but don't tear her now because of that. You know 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.880 the whole thing with pistol p they're totally two different things. Okay, 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.920 distol Peace record is totally different because it's a men's game. 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:25.440 So I understand how they compare the numbers, but how 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.560 you get to those numbers are totally different because the 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.920 level of competition is different, the timing is different. But 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:37.320 what she's accomplished in women's basketball is not. It's unbelievable 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.000 what she's done for the sport, and she should be 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:44.240 praised for that. But there are other women who come 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.440 before her who are playing right now that also should 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.880 be acknowledged. Maybe not in the same stratosphere because she's 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.600 the hot one right now, but my goodness, man, more people. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.000 I saw a thing where more people have bought and 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:00.560 bought tickets to the women's Final four already than the 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.080 men all right, already? 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.200 Does she have more range than you did? 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.960 Yes, no doubt because we weren't shooting thinking about this 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.400 dad back then. If you shot Larry Bird is a 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.880 great shooter. If you shot three three points, you were 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:23.800 shooting a lot. That's why records are hard to like. Okay, 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.600 you passed Larry Bird? What duh? I mean Larry Bird 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.720 shot three to three points. He maybe shot one hundred 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:33.280 for the year. If you're a quarterback, if you think 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:37.240 about this outside of maybe Dan Fouts and maybe Fran 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.000 targetson back in the day, Dan Marino, who threw the 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:44.880 ball a lot, it was run first pass. Yeah, so 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:49.520 you don't think Troy Aikman, you don't think Joe Montana. 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.520 If they threw and passed the ball a lot more, 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:53.480 they'll have more yards. 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:53.960 Yeah. 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.680 So of course Drew Brees and all these quarterbacks today 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.440 are gonna have more passing yards because they're throwing the 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.680 ball thirty forty times a game. Well, back then, you 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.960 threw it eighteen to twenty or fifteen. So we got 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.000 to keep in mind when we talk about these records, 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.840 how they're accomplished and why, and you got to keep 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.040 that in a relative format when you're talking about the greats. 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:18.280 Oh, I got one more question for you. 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:19.520 I didn't do it. 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:26.639 Jay Jay Williams said Kyrie is the most skilled player 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:27.600 to ever play the game. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.000 It's hard not to argue with his skill set what 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.720 he does. Okay, when people hear that, oh of the 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.840 let's just break it down. Left hand, right hand, he 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:45.680 can shoot it from three. The handles are unbelievable. Now 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.879 when Kyrie wants to set guys up and pass, he 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.399 can do that. Can he finish with the best of 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.800 them at the rim? Yes, he can. You tell me 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:58.239 one area of Kyrie's game that's not exceptional. You can 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.720 send them left. He's gonna finish with his left, right hand, 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.879 jump shot, mid range, a little post up on the block. 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.840 What are you going to take away from Okay? 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:11.879 Is he the most skilled player in the history of 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:12.840 the game in your opinion? 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:19.240 No, one of the most skilled players. Kobe was unbelievable. 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:24.959 You know, so was Tim Duncan in his skill set. Okay, 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:30.040 his skill set, his fundamentally skill set, he was unbelievable. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:31.760 Michael Jordan with his footwork. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.879 Is Kyrie more skilled than the Joker? 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:44.720 No? I think both have their own What Joker is 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:48.800 able to do at seven foot is unbelievable, and he's 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.560 doing the same kind of thing now. He doesn't handle 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:56.480 it like Kyrie, and I don't expect him to. But 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.159 he handles it good enough to get from point A 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.439 to point B to push it down the break. Have 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:06.920 you seen, joker? I did really get picked the basketball? 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:07.240 Yeah? 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:12.520 No, his handle was made for what he does. It's 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:13.440 made for what he does. 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.119 All right, have fun today? 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:19.440 Well, the day is the perfect day. You know what, 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.400 It's just it's just practice, practically. 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:23.159 Have fun today. 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:25.560 Well, well, I had a couple of cigars a little 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:25.960 bit later. 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.680 Oh really, okay? Always what are we smoking? 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:34.879 I have a little Hoya Monter Ray Sam Juan oh 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.960 Coheba fifty fifth, one of my favorites. Yeah, okay, it'll 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:40.280 be a two for three for to day. 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.440 I had a Koheba robusto last night? 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.280 Did you was it Dominican or Cuban? Which one one? 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.880 I don't know. You can't smoke here. 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:54.960 No, no, you can't buy it. You can you can 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:55.639 you can smoke that. 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.639 Okay. If if it's a gift, I don't need to 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:00.240 know how you. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:01.920 Got it exactly exactly. 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:06.399 Okay, have fun today? Great, great to catch it, Thank you, buddy. 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.440 That's Jim Jackson, Fox Turner basketball. 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