1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that gets you 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: inside n RG Stadium, inside the thoughts of Mark VanderMeer 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: me I went third person for a brief moment there, 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: but really not for too long. Tied John Harris, my 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: co host, as we welcome me to Texans Radio, Texas 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: All Access Johnny Good evening, how's it going with my friend? 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: John Harris is doing well. I figured if you went 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: third person, then I needed to go third person as well. 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: So John Harris is doing well and ready ready to 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: rock as we always are, and we're we're oh so 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: close to the schedule being released. And it was funny 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: I was talking to Deep today about this mark the 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: fact that the NFL now sees the value in treating 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: the schedule release as an event that isn't quite on 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: par with the Draft and obviously is not on par 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: with the super Bowl, but they're understanding this is a 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: big event and they're finally like, look, let's give everybody 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: a lockdown day. This is what it's done. It's when 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: we release it and make it a massive It's been 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: a massive event. But the fact that we can plan 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: for it and know when it's coming and fans know 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's huge. That's massive. I agree, Johnny, 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: it is huge. And I remember recent years, previous years 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: where they wouldn't really know the exact date and it 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: was in April. It might be the second week of April, 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: it'll be sometime around there, and then you'd find out 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: maybe a few days out. You know. It just wasn't 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: the kind of countdown that you have right now. And 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun tomorrow as as the schedule gets 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: released and we'll have it for you sixty five live 31 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: right here on this program. We will release the schedule 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: and we'll also be live on our social media digital 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: media channels. In fact, my dog is barking, so just 34 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: in celebration of the schedule coming out. Yeah, I mean, 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: my dogs are so excited. They're just in the background, 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: like what they're you know, they're down at Galison. They 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: couldn't care less about Texas football at this point. But 38 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: there are the only two beings that feel that way 39 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: at this point. Well, I always find it interesting my 40 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: dog does bark at, I'm like, shut up, like and 41 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: then you know it's the ups guy. Don't you recognize 42 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: the brown truck is not going to be a problem 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: for us really, unless it's like one of those movies 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: and somebody kidnapped the UPS guy or the Amazon guy, 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: whoever's coming to the house. I don't get it anyway. 46 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Before we get into I know, we always have fun 47 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: on the show. We talk about football and we enjoy ourselves. 48 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: And I wanted to talk about something serious that happened 49 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: that we found out about over the weekend, maybe Monday, 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: well I actually I think it was overnight Saturday. But 51 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: it was the death of producer Brandon Porter for Sports 52 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: Radio six ten, who produced so many Texans radio shows 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: over the years, in addition to Sports Radio six ten shows. 54 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: And I know the guys have talked about it on 55 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: the station a bunch, and I know you mentioned it 56 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: last night, Johnny, but I haven't been on the air 57 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: since Brandon's passing. I tweeted about it, and I'm heartbroken 58 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: about this, to say the least, just totally shocked, totally saddened. 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: He produced every hour of our draft coverage this yet 60 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: and we just saw him Thursday night at the studio 61 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: as we were live from the six ten studios on 62 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: that night the Huntday Texans Mobile Radio Studio as we 63 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: call it, but really shocking news. And you know, my 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: heart goes out to his family, obviously the six tenth family, 65 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: and really us because we've worked with him for so long. Johnny, 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: he's been around for so long. He was at the 67 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: station since John and Lance were doing morning drive. Okay 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: it was long ago that. Woh yeah, I was still 69 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: doing afternoons with rich Lord when Brandon Porter started at 70 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: Sports Radio six ten. And I don't need to tell 71 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: you how many how many people who actually are still 72 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: on the market working somewhere or might be elsewhere or 73 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: other media, whatever they're doing. How many people have been 74 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: through that building since Brandon was there and now he's 75 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: no longer with us, And it's just, you know, somebody 76 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, and I don't know him like like a 77 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: brother or anything, but he was, you know, a radio 78 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: brother of ours. You know, you get so close with 79 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: people in this business. He was really great to us, reliable, 80 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: really great worker. But you know, so much more than 81 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: that obviously as an individual. But I know a lot 82 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: of people might have heard his name. I've mentioned his 83 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: name dozens and dozens and dozens of times over the 84 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: years of producing these programs and other programs, so I 85 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: just wanted to say that, and I know it hit 86 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: you hard as well, my friend. Yeah, I got the 87 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: text from you, and I was like, man, I just 88 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,559 Speaker 1: I just sent him the show on Friday night and 89 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: he just sent a nice quick note of thanks. And 90 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: I always thank him at the end of the show. 91 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: And you know, it's interesting, I'm down and down Gallison 92 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: for a few days, and we were down here for 93 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: the whole entire month of October, and I was just 94 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: in you know that I was in serious pain deal 95 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: with my back, and oh it was just it was 96 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: just awful, and I would have to sit in this 97 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 1: goofy chair and I was doing some of the shows live. 98 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: And while we're doing some of those shows, sometimes we 99 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: have recorded elements, and so there would be times where 100 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: we would play recorded elements of the show and the 101 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: Astros were on, you know, their run in the ALCS 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: last year, coming down from OH three and getting back 103 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: into it. Every time we'd have a recorded piece going, 104 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: Brandon and I would just get I mean, we'd get 105 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: on the talk back where the interview would be playing 106 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: or whatever we have going on, and Brandon and I 107 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: would just be talking about the Astros and watching the 108 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: game together basically as we were doing radio that night. 109 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: And that was always really cool because I wasn't able 110 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: to follow the astros and so he could keep me 111 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: kind of abreast of Oh, yeah, this guy is this, 112 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: and you know this guy's doing that. Man he's young, 113 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: but he can do this, and he would keep me 114 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: abreast of all that. And I loved having him produced 115 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: for us. I always felt so comfortable. I'm gonna I'm 116 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: gonna miss him, Mark, I'm gonna miss him. And you know, 117 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: last night, at the end of the show, I said, 118 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: we always in the show with you know, go Texans, 119 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: and last night it would have been harder to even 120 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: go further to say kind of what I'm saying now, 121 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: because it was I mean, I felt myself just finishing 122 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: the show getting emotional about him and what he meant 123 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: to all of us and what he meant to everybody 124 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: had Sports Radio six to ten. You know, we're gonna 125 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: love him, We're gonna miss him. And there are some 126 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: big shoes to film because he was he was so 127 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: good at it. You could just give him a little 128 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: bit of hey, I need I need X and got 129 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: it and he went and took care of it and 130 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: that was always such. It was a radio godsend for 131 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: us and for me to be somewhere not in studio, 132 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: not looking at him, but trusting that he's gonna pull 133 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: up the right clip and he's gonna play at the 134 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: right time and everything would work seamless. So I'm gonna 135 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: love him, gonna miss him, for sure, there's no doubt. 136 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know wh're gonna get my Ashrow's knowledge. Now. 137 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: I know that for a fact because he was He 138 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: was the one that was always feed me for sure. Yeah, 139 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: it's really sad. Robert Harris is producing tonight's show and uh, 140 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: and Roberts does a great job, and I just you know, 141 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: it made me sad to hear from Robert, you know, 142 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm not gonna be hearing from Brandon anymore, 143 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, but not that Robert. You make me sad. 144 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: But you get my point here. Anyway, Let's let's talk sports. 145 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: That's what Brandon would want us to do. And uh, 146 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: and again our condolences to us, to his family, the 147 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: six tenth family, and I know it's it's it everybody 148 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: hard this week, all right, some things to go over. Um. 149 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: I was at the Houston Texans Charity Golf class yesterday. Johnny, 150 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: I know that you talked about that yesterday with Drew 151 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: a DP and you know what went down and raising 152 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: over three hundred and fifty thousand dollars in that event. 153 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: And Johnny, a couple of very important things. First of all, 154 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: the camera crew arrived on green number ten as my 155 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: group was pulling up, and Tyler Suttart said, we got 156 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: to shoot. You know, you try to make a putt 157 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: And I made the putt okay, first of all, and 158 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: then my group said, oh, so you need the cameras 159 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: rolling to make any kind of shot. You need now 160 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: hold on him. That would surprise absolutely no one, sandbagging 161 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: the whole time. Camera crew shows up, the voice of 162 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: the Texans gets it done. So how long at that 163 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: point did the camera crew stay with you? Not long enough? 164 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: But but but on the next hole, on the next hole. 165 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: So funny because I didn't brag about this at all 166 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: when I was m seeing the awards, but I am 167 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: on the air in front of you know, many more people. 168 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: So on the next hole, got about a one hundred 169 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: yard one oh one shot to the green, a second 170 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: shot and I didn't hit the drive. I hit the 171 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: ball okay yesterday, but we had some heavy hitters and 172 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: so i get out the pitching wedge and I'm the 173 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: first guy to go and I hold it. Okay, dunk 174 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: the shot. I didn't dunk it. It rolled in from 175 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: one hundred yards out, from one hundred yards yards out, yeah, 176 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: which I thought was you know, it was a lot 177 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: of fun to do that. They were really excited. I 178 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: was really excited. So that was pretty cool to do. 179 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: I've done it there before at this tournament on eighteen 180 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: when Patti Smith hit the drive and I hit the 181 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: second shot one twenty five and I hit it in 182 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: the hole, So that was big. So never mind raising 183 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: money for important causes. I mean, this was just kidding 184 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: out here. It was fun, though, Johnny, because you know, 185 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: not only are out there and raising money for a 186 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: great cause and causes and Texas being champions for youth. 187 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Then kN McNair, by the way, decided to park it 188 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: out one green and just be the leadoff putter for 189 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: every group that came through because he really felt it 190 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: was important to meet everybody there yesterday and that was awesome. 191 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, he showed us the way on 192 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: our twenty foot Bertie putt and um, and he showed 193 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: me the line and I made it. So that was cool, 194 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: right in front of right in front of the big boss. 195 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: I was like, rock and yeah, listen, there's nothing there's 196 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: nothing like showing your boss how coachable you can be 197 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: at any level, at any level, for for cal to 198 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: turn around and go, I showed you in line, mark 199 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: what you want to do with it? Now? He would 200 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: hit it three feet the other way. Awful. Your your 201 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: coachability would have been in question. Your draft report would 202 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: not have looked good at that point. But back did 203 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: you knock at home? That gives you a plus in 204 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: that category. For sure. It could have backfired on me. 205 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: He could have said, vandomar too much golf in your life. 206 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: You're done. Okay, that's true. We don't pay you to 207 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: pay to play golf. So but it all worked out. 208 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: You get it so good? Yeah, exactly, I'm really not. 209 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: It was just like blind squirrel luck. But death was 210 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: cool stopping. A bunch of former players were there. I 211 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: saw Jonathan Wells, so I always loved bumping into draft 212 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: choice from the original lot. In two thousand and two, 213 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: Anamabia Koy was there. We saw Anthony Hill, he was there, 214 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: great to catch up with him. Rise, Travis Johnson was there, 215 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: much about Jacob Martin, was there? A J. Moore. I'm 216 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: gonna miss some guys. Former Texans defensive coordinator Wade Phillips 217 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: was there, which it was phenomenal to see him and 218 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: catch up with him a little bit. Okay, I was 219 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: listening to Landry and john I can't remember if it 220 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: was yesterday or today, but they made a comment about 221 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips massive mistake. Yeah, Landry said he was wearing 222 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: shorts on the golf course. Look, and you know what, 223 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: when I heard that, I was like, hold up, Now, 224 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: there are certain people that it doesn't really matter what 225 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: they're they're wearing it. As long as those people are clothed. 226 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: That's way they can walk out there in you know 227 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: the Dan Ackroyd and Steve Martin wore, you know, two 228 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: wild and crazy guys. They could be wearing that from 229 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live. It wouldn't matter. Wait out there hitting 230 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: the ball, and that's that's very cool. I'm glad that 231 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: Wade was there. But when they were like, yeah, he's 232 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: wearing George, I'm like, that isn't that kind of on 233 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: brand anyways. I mean, isn't that supposed to me for 234 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: a Wade? I'm cool with that, totally, totally. Wait, you're right, 235 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips can wear whatever he wants. And I love 236 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: being around him, love talking with him, and you know, 237 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: I feel the direct connection to Bomb when I'm talking 238 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: to Wade for some reason. He's his own man, of course, 239 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: but there's just something that's special about that Phillips lineage, 240 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: of course. And the first time I've ever met Bum 241 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: Phillips was actually at a golf course at Sugar Creek 242 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: Bum and I think it's Bumming the boys. There was 243 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: a charity effort and it was one of the first 244 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: charity tournaments I ever played in here in Houston, wasn't 245 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: a Texans thing. And that's where I met Pastorini and Bum. 246 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: And Bum was always so nice to me. He knew 247 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: who I was, knew what I did, always very very 248 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: gracious asking me questions. I'm like, I don't want to 249 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: talk about I mean, I want to ask you questions. 250 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: He was a curious, inquisitive, wonderful man, and so is Wade. 251 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: And it's just great to have Wade around, uh, participating 252 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: in these events. And someday, look, I don't you know, 253 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if Way It's gonna come back and 254 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: coach somewhere or not, or whatever happens, but someday I'd 255 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: love to see him walk out of that tunnel, Johnny, 256 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: And I think that was a huge moment. Man, that 257 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: would be cool. I mean, I I can gosh, I 258 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: remember Bum come outut of that tunnel, taking that cowboy hat, 259 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: tipping it to the crowd. Oh my gosh, I still 260 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: Wade walking out, Wade walking out doing the same. Oh 261 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: my goodness. When when you just said that it I 262 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: felt the spine tingling sensation again. Bum Feel Ups Playoff 263 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: game twenty eleven, playoff debut of the Houston Texans Bum 264 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: walking out of the tunnel and you couldn't even hear anything. 265 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: It was just so loud, Like I, you know, I 266 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: was glad we might have been in a break. I 267 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: don't know what we were doing. I think I described it, 268 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: but I don't even remember the moment on the air 269 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: as much as I just remember the moment as a fan, 270 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: as a supporter of this organization and how huge that 271 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: was and connecting things. And another thing was, you know, look, 272 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: you're you're playing in a Texans tournament yesterday, so you 273 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 1: can say, oh, you're preaching on the converted. But you know, 274 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people had questions about what's going on 275 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: with the team and everything, and Nick Kissiri was there, 276 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: David Tully was there, Jack was there. So it was 277 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: great for everybody to be there and talk to people 278 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: about what's going on with the team, and and people 279 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: love this team and want this team to win so badly, 280 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: and look, you know, here we are. I feel like 281 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: we're on the using a golf term, here, we're on 282 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: the back nine of the offseason, you know, well into 283 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: the back down of the off season. We're coming in 284 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: to the clubhouse and getting ready to get the season started. 285 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: And I am so excited to see Texans football. I 286 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: don't you know, honestly, I don't know exactly how they're 287 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: gonna line up and what it's gonna look like. I 288 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: really don't you know. We are, We're all curious. They 289 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: would be crazy to show their hand too much. I 290 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: think one advantage they have is the element of surprise 291 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: coming into twenty twenty one. But we all see the 292 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: massive amount of moves and that you know, We've said 293 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: it all offseason since they started making these moves. Hey, 294 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: if the right people surface here, if the right if 295 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: the right things sprout, you're gonna have a competitive team 296 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: that can do a lot more damage than people are 297 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: giving a credit for. I feel anyway. I mean, there 298 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: are a lot of I want to make sure I 299 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: say this right. There are a lot of veteran professionals 300 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: on the squad, and you never know how that's gonna go. 301 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: But if you get in the I used the word, Look, 302 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: they're all professionals, but I'm speaking of how professional football 303 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: players are supposed to go about their business. And I 304 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: think that's what this organization is made of. And I 305 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: think I think they're going to go out with just 306 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: as much to prove as Nikissario has, as David Culley 307 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: has to go out and improve that what they did 308 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: in the off season was maybe not the absolute solution, 309 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: but it's steps in the right direction to the solution. 310 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of guys going out there. 311 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean, look, mark Ingram, you know, with the Baltimore 312 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: Ravens last year. By the end of the year, you 313 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: know JK. Dobbins was the dude, and mark Ingram was 314 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: relegated to inactive status and you think that sits well 315 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: with him, not at all. And I think he wants 316 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: to prove something. Philip Lindsay Leven Denver, he's steady, has 317 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder. I mean everything about coming 318 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: out of the the CEEU and not being drafted and then 319 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: going to Denver are improving it time and time again. 320 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: And they bring in Melvin Gordon to Denver, the guys, 321 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be plenty of them to have a 322 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: chip on their shoulder to be able to prove it 323 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: that Yeah, I signed a one year deal, but they're 324 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: gonna love me so much here that I want to 325 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: be able to stay here for two, three, four years 326 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: and I want to be a big piece of that. 327 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: And a lot of guys are gonna have that opportunity. 328 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: Now we all know the math doesn't work for all 329 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: of them to do that, but I do think this 330 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: team is going to have some guys that go out 331 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: and play well together and they're they're gonna be some surprises. 332 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: And we just need to see some young players. Class 333 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, Class of twenty twenty one rise up 334 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: and start saying, look, I'm gonna be part of this 335 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: organization for a very long time. I need to be 336 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: a foundation piece Ross Blacklock. We need him to be 337 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: a foundation piece going forward, and it's got to start 338 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Those are the things that we 339 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: got to see. But I think you can get that 340 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: out of some young players if you've got some vets 341 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: that are shown the right way to do it, how 342 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: to do it, how to be coachable, as we talked about, 343 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: to go out there on the field and produce and 344 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: be competitive in every aspect of things that they have 345 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: going on. And it doesn't matter whether it's practice, whether 346 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: it's you know, rehab, hey minutes, dude, rehab for thirty minutes. 347 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: I'm going to do it for thirty five. Whatever the 348 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: case might be, right, But I think you've got a 349 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: number of professional vets that know how that needs to 350 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: be done, and I think they'll go out and try 351 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: and prove it every day. And you know, who knows 352 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: how many wins that amounts to. Who knows what kind 353 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: of football team that amounts to. But if you get 354 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: those guys minor psaques, knowing what's on the line each 355 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: and every week, they go out there, don't turn the ball, 356 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: over go get the ball back from other people. And look, 357 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: there are some coaches that's got to prove it too. 358 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: I mean, David Kelly has never been a head coach. 359 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, Coach Kelly's gonna I know, he's gonna feel 360 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: the internal pressure for himself to go out there and 361 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: prove yeah, he was the right choice for the Houston 362 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: Texas Lovey Smith coming back to be an NFL defensive 363 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: coordinate for the first time, and I don't have many 364 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: years eight eight nine years since he's been an NFL 365 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator coming back to NFL game to prove he 366 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: can do it. So I think there's a lot for 367 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: this organization's individual members to prove and if they can 368 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: prove it collectively, it's not telling me where this team 369 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: could be in twenty twenty one with what they have. Now, 370 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: we all know the big box of ball that's you know, 371 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: been you know there for the quarterback situation. But what 372 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: can you what can you do about that right now? Nothing, 373 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: It's a legal situation. You can't do anything about it. 374 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: So you move on and you hope that what you've 375 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: brought in can absorb anything that goes with that. No 376 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: matter what happens, and you can go out each and 377 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: every week and we'll find out when they find out 378 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: what and when and where and all that kind of 379 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: stuff tomorrow, which is gonna be really exciting to see 380 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: what twenty twenty one can do. What did Cassario say 381 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: something like, we're all in it, We're all on the 382 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: same boat, or it's the same for all of us 383 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: regarded the quarterback situation, the uncertainty around it, and you 384 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: got to make plans for any possible scenario. And that's 385 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: what they've done. I feel like you can just sort 386 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: of see it if you know, you see what's in 387 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: the wind here. You can tell that they're ready for 388 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: just about anything, and we'll see how that goes. And 389 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: you bring up a lot of great stuff here. I mean, 390 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't wear it again. I think that with Lovey, 391 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: I like it when a head coach becomes a coordinator 392 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: in that you know, you just narrow that focus and 393 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: they became a head coach because they were really good 394 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: at something, and love It was a really good head 395 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: coach in this league. I mean, I know it didn't 396 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: go according to plan in Tampa, but with Chicago. Go 397 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: look at some of those records. You know, I know that. Look, 398 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: you didn't win the Super Bowl. You went to one. 399 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: You know, I went to another NFC championship game. He 400 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: made you were ten and six and got fired. So look, love, 401 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: he did some things there. And now he can just 402 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: hone the focus. I know he's in Illinois, but now 403 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: he's in the NFL. Can hone the focus on just 404 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: being just just being a coordinator, that's all. It's a 405 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: huge job of being a head coach. It narrows it 406 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: and you should be able to funnel everything you've got 407 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: into that role. Should be pretty interesting for him. And 408 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: the other thing is this, you know, Tim Kelly, the 409 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: evolution of Tim Kelly as an offensive coordinator something. He's 410 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: going to write a great book, I'm sure because I 411 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: know what happens this year. But year one under Bill O'Brien, 412 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: I guess it's Bill O'Brien, right, and Kelly's coordinating, but 413 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Obie's calling the plays. Next year he calls the plays. 414 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: Obie gets fired. He's got to take over and really 415 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: dig into it in a different sort of way. He's 416 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: always dug in. But you know what I'm saying, He's 417 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: got the whole thing and then this year, I think 418 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: with Cully being the head coach in collaboration with pet 419 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: Hamilton quarterbacks coach. Whatever he brings to the table, he's 420 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: a former coordinator himself, this could be really interesting for him. 421 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: So both sides of the ball of a lot of 422 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: you know, really you know, developing stories going on, and 423 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, every week we're gonna be talking about this 424 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: stuff because every week is a course. Whether you like 425 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: it or not, it's a full performance evaluation and that's 426 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: what we're here to discuss. Yep, no doubt. And the 427 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: one thing I've always loved, you know, it's interesting. When 428 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: I've spent a few years in a different capacity, it 429 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: was always hard for me because I didn't know whether 430 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: I won or I lost. That's the great thing about sports, 431 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: and a great thing about football. I can look up 432 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the day and go, my team 433 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: has more than their team. I did or must have 434 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: done a pretty good job to make my team better 435 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: than their team on that particular day. He can't do 436 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: that in a lot of other businesses. Especially when I 437 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: was in you basically handed a piece of papers, say 438 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: yeah it looks pretty good, Yeah you're good, move on 439 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: and keep your business going, that's what I was doing. 440 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: But in this sport, obviously in others, did you have 441 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: more than the other guy. And that's what makes competition great. 442 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: That's what I love about it, and that's what I 443 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: think a Kissario is really harped on this spring, this 444 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: offseason competition. All you gotta do is just look at 445 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: the lineback and court. I mean, look at the guys 446 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: that have been brought in. I think it's seven of 447 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: them if my math is correct on that, and every 448 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: single guy is sitting there looking at it, going, man, 449 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: I just signed the Texans. Oh man, they just signed 450 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: four other guys. The guys they brought in that came 451 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: in for conditioning are looking up, going okay, well I 452 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: got five of the guys compete with. Oh now, you've 453 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: got the leading tackler the Jets that now has now 454 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: is coming in to compete with all of us too. 455 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: And you either accept the challenge or you move out, 456 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: You move out of the way and you allow that 457 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: person to take over, or you step up compete becoming 458 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: better football play every day and you see what the 459 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: result is each and every Sunday, and you already have 460 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: the league's leading tackler in the building, right, So we're 461 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: joining that core. But they all see what Adams did 462 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: last year, who's no longer here, and now he had 463 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: an explosive season, And look, I know it's a different defense, 464 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: but you're thinking, geez, I mean, you know, maybe I 465 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: can have a big year like that, you know, and 466 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: that could really help me down the road. Like you said, 467 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: either keep employment here, get it somewhere else, but I'm 468 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: going to do the best job I can for the 469 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: football team. And you know that's the way it's drawn up. 470 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: You hope it goes that way when you eventually played. 471 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: All Right, coming up, we've got a Who's Better. We're 472 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: going back to who's better because it's Tuesday. I want 473 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: to keep who's better on Tuesday more likely to happen 474 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: later in the week. But Johnny, we've got a who's 475 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: Better featuring Texans opponents and the Texans themselves. You know, 476 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: schedule comes out tomorrow. We gotta start talking about these 477 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: opponents more and more. Everybody had their draft. Everything's coming 478 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: into focus a little bit more. You know, now that 479 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: Tebow has been side, we can all have a season. Okay, 480 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: so let's get into who's better. Elements. As we roll 481 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: on here on Texans Radio. It's Radio, It's Radio Ito 482 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: and it's Texans Radio. Mark Vandermayer, John Harris with you. 483 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: Something we'd like to do on Tuesdays. It's called Who's Better? John? 484 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: Are you ready to play? Of course, let's go. Of course, 485 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: of course, first of all, give me thirty seconds because 486 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: I haven't heard it yet. Your reaction. I heard Sesson 487 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: Sean talking about this, but your reaction to Tebow signing 488 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: with the Jags. You know, we kind of knew what 489 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: was gonna happen. I don't know we really knew what 490 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: we thought. Is this really gonna happen? It happened. Tebow's 491 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: a Jaguar. I think for now one. Does he make 492 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: the team too? What do you think? You know, it's interesting. 493 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: I think people in Jacksonville's fans are split on this. 494 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: They're they're far one way or far the other, like, 495 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah, this is great for jackson Other Jaguar fans 496 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: are like, this makes us a joke. The guy hasn't 497 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: played football. And however, he had every opportunity Mark to 498 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: move over to tight end or h back or whatever 499 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: else when he was playing football, and he didn't take it, 500 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: so he gets the opportunity. The one thing I will say, Mark, 501 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: you know this. Everybody knows this, but I've I've talked 502 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: about Tebow in this way. If you can do it, 503 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: go try Because there's no pickup football happening in the park. 504 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: You're not gonna have a pickup game at tackle football 505 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: in the park. So when football's over, it's done, completely done. 506 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: In this training camp coming up for Tim Tebow will 507 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: tell him whether he's done or not. So in all essence, 508 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: all this hot error that everybody's breathing about it, who cares. 509 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna find out whether he has cut out for 510 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: it or not. I have the same thought as Clinston 511 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: on that, like, if you can play, you do everything 512 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: you can to keep playing because this thing, when it's done, 513 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: it's done, and then you look back going, man, I 514 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: wish I could do it. Well, he's got that opportunity 515 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: to go back because of success he had. I don't 516 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: think it will be ultimately successful, but I do appreciate 517 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: the fact that he is trying to extend a football 518 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: career for as long as he possibly can. For that 519 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: thumbs up, I just don't think he's gonna make the team, 520 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: and I think we get the training camp. It's a 521 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: fun little storyline to watch Jaguars football pretty season, Budd, 522 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: he won't make the fifty three. I agree, he's not 523 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: gonna make it. But you said it best early on 524 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: when the story originally broke about the workouts, and you said, 525 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: maybe he's the kind of guy you want in the organization, 526 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: and this is a good way to get him in. 527 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: Get to know the organization, get to know the coaches, 528 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: get to go to that whole process, gets into the players, 529 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden afterwards, maybe you can 530 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: join as an assistant, assistant assistant whatever it was like, 531 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: Godrey Johnson was here or you know, one of those 532 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: guys and sort of seep in to the organization somehow, 533 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: if that's what he wants. But let's start off, who's 534 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: better with that? Who's better Tebo as a tight end 535 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: or Tebo as a baseball player in the minors. He 536 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: struggled with the Mendoza line, which is two hundred by 537 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: the ways, boys and girls, I don't have time to 538 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: tell you the Mendoza story, but trust me, so Tebow 539 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: baseball player, Tebow tight end? Who's better Tebow tight end. 540 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: I still I've always I've always felt like Tebow the 541 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: football player was always very very good. I've always respected 542 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: Tebow the football player. I just didn't think Tim was 543 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: going to be an NFL quarterback. And I know everybody, 544 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: oh twenty eleven, look, man, he was. It was miracles 545 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: left and right. In twenty eleven. He was never He 546 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: was never the quarterback and wasn't going to be that 547 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: kind of quarterback. He just wasn't going to happen. He 548 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: needed to be Taysom Hill before Taysom Hill. Basically, that's 549 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: how he could have had any pack because he could throw. 550 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: When he's on the field, you have to you have 551 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: to respect it. But he was stubborn about being a quarterback. 552 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: And I give him credit for that in some sets, 553 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: but at some point you should have seen the running 554 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: on the wall, like, you know what, maybe I should 555 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: do this while I still got a little bit of 556 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: youth going here to kind of pop over being h 557 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: back and kind of learn that way and spend a 558 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: year in the practice squad maybe doing that kind of thing. 559 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: If you could have done that. But I think Tibo 560 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: the tight end, look, I don't think he's got great hands. 561 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: I don't think he's twitchy or any end of that, 562 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: but there's something about him that in two hundred and 563 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: forty pounds worth, he's kept his body in shape. He's 564 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: always been able to run a little bit, so if 565 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: he can get himself open to make a catch. Rock 566 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: on baseball player, No, Tim was never His older brother 567 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: Robbie was actually a pretty decent baseball player. I coached 568 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: against him, and so he was a pretty decent baseball player. 569 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: Tim was was okay, But I'd love the fact that 570 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: he gave it a shot with the Mets and actually 571 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: did something. I don't think people understand how hard is 572 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: it to baseball and he did that, you know, in 573 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: two thirty It sounds horrible, but he gave it a shot. 574 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: But football has always been his thing, and I think 575 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: tight end would ultimately be in the NFL where he 576 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: would where he would be, And I think he's always 577 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: been a very very good football player no matter what. 578 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: So that I'm going with that he's better as a 579 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: football player than a baseball player. Continuing who's better, Who's 580 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: better the Jags or the Jets? Who's better Johnny Jags? 581 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: And I hate to say that I think the Jets 582 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: are on their way. I think Joe Douglas their masterful 583 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: job in this draft. Get Obviously, getting Zach Wilson right 584 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 1: up front was a big one for the Jets. They 585 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: had locked down that guy. They already traded Sam Darnold, 586 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: so I did, Okay, get Zach Wilson, that's number two. 587 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: But then the way they they kind of maneuvered the board, 588 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, trading backup, not giving up a whole heck 589 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: of a lot to go get a VT Elijah vera 590 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: Tucker in him FOURTEENTHO was great. The best the best 591 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: pick they may have is Elijah and more the second 592 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: pick in the second round, the receiver who I think 593 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: could be Zach Wilson's best bud. But just all the 594 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: way through the draft, they had depth players that are 595 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: gonna add to their depth, guys that are gonna be starters, 596 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: maybe maybe right away in a couple of spots, maybe 597 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: three spots. So I think the Jets are are looking 598 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: pretty good. However, the Jags already had some talent. Then 599 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: you throw in Trevor Lawrence, then you throw it in 600 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: Travis Etn, you throw in Javan Holland and a few 601 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: of the players that they drafted. Their Walker Little was 602 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: a guy they drafted. No, I'm sorry I didn't not 603 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: John holland Tyson Campbell at corner. They their first four 604 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: or five picks. I'm like, whoa, man, those are really 605 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: good on top of some of the talent they've already had. 606 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: And I don't think the offensive line is horrible night 607 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: but Trevor behind him two valid running threats, actually three 608 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: with Carlos Heyden net mix two with James Robinson. I in, man, 609 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: do you just start looking at some of the weapons 610 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: and you're like, well, these guys could be pretty good 611 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: before too long. Now the defense still has little ways 612 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: to go. But as far as talent goes, I think 613 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: the Jags are a step step and half head of 614 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: the Jets right now. I think the Jets will catch 615 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: them because they've got a few They got more draft 616 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: capital coming. The draft capital for Jacksonville was this year, 617 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: and they better they were gonna capitalize on what they 618 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: got this year. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. You know, 619 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: you look at the coaching staffs. I know both coaching 620 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: staffs have things going for them. I wonder how Baby 621 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: Lafleur in New York and Daryl Bebel how they're gonna 622 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: feel about coaching these rookie quarterbacks, you know, in the 623 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: short term, because oh, you got these great prospects and everything, like, 624 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they're rookies, you know, because they're still rookie, 625 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have rookie issues, rookie development problems. And 626 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. We'll see who develops faster. 627 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting, all right. Next Who's better? Who's better? 628 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: This is a Texans opponent version of who's better? Who's better? 629 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland on the road or Arizona on the road. The 630 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: Texans have to deal with both of these things, these 631 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: these opponents in twenty twenty one. Who's better? Johnny Cleveland? 632 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: This look I know about you know Hop and you 633 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: know the other guy that left from here that they 634 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: have totally get it. And I feel like the Cardinals 635 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: have done a nice job, I mean, adding Xavian Collins 636 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: and the draft was fantastic. But Cleveland is on a 637 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: whole different level. They signed a near Pro Bowl safety 638 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: John Johnson. They get Grant Delpit back from last year, 639 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: who was a tremendous There was a stud at LSU, 640 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: but was injured for his rookie year. That offensive line 641 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: in Cleveland is just rock solid, rock solid. I don't 642 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: think that's the way it is in Arizona. And the 643 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: additions that all the Browns have made over the last 644 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: two years, that includes Austin Hooper at tight end, you know, 645 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: Jack Conklin on the offensive line feels like Aden Barry 646 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: is just hit hit, hit, hit, hit all across the board. 647 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: And they've got Miles Garrett there still now as it 648 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: is for both, it relies on Kyle Murray and Baker Mayfield. 649 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: But Baker can rely on more of that staunch number 650 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: one in league running game with Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt. 651 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: Kyler can't do that. So I think Cleveland is a 652 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: rough rough out and you just got to hope that 653 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: on that day that Baker is just not feeling it. 654 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: But I think that defense in Cleveland is gonna be nails. 655 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: That defense is gonna be stout, holy cow, And I 656 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: think that Jevian Clowney, I don't think it really will 657 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: make a ripple. To be honest with you, I think 658 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: it's great for him. He's there, fantastic. I don't think 659 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: he's I think he's just gonna be kind of like 660 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: Julius Peppers later in his career. He's gonna be kind 661 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: of a spot guy. You put him in and do 662 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: certain things, and that's what he does. But Miles with 663 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett with Denzel Ward, John Johnson secondary. Now they 664 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: also signed Troy Hill from the Rams. It's Cleveland. It's 665 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: Cleveland to me with those two. But you know, Arizona 666 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: thing is gonna be pretty good, There's no doubt about that. 667 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: But that division is so tough. Leaving that out of it. 668 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 1: I think that Baker he's coming along way. Oh by 669 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: the way, the Browns get obij back. Oh my god, 670 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: he has been traded yet. Huh darned No. All right, 671 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. Okay, final, who's better? Who's better? 672 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: Texans opponent's version, Who's better Seattle or the Rams? Who's better? Johnny? 673 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: The Rams at Matthew Stafford. Seattle is Seattle, and they 674 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: had a whopping amount of draft choices, three of them. 675 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: But Seattle is a good team. They feel like they 676 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: got better anyway. And what is your thought on this? Man? 677 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams last year went the opening round 678 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: of the playoffs to Seattle and spank Seattle now new 679 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in Seattle, and I think that's gonna help 680 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. But if Wilson feels hindered by Notock the 681 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: office coordinator, but by Pete Carroll, then maybe the Seahawks 682 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: are gonna be limited. My gut tells me with Aaron Donald, 683 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, and now with Matt Stafford, that it should 684 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: be the Rams o by the way, one of the 685 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: upcoming great running backs who I loved coming out of 686 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: last year's draft as cam Acres and cam Acres with Stafford, 687 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: with those receivers, Oh boy, I'm gonna go Rams. I'm 688 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: gonna go Rams on this. I think the Rams making 689 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: the upgrade from Golf to Stafford, I think that's gonna 690 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: mean a ton. Now they lose a couple of pieces 691 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: in the secondaries I just mentioned going to the Browns 692 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: Troy Hill and John Johnson, but and also Brand Staley 693 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. But I would trust the upgrade to Stafford 694 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: is gonna make that offense that much more explosive, more 695 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: balanced offense defense, I would say Rams over Seahawks. Look, 696 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to be Stafford Dasher, and I won't 697 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 1: be Johnny, but this is gonna be a real test 698 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 1: for his career for whatever it says when he's said 699 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: and done as an NFL player, Because now you're going 700 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: to a squad that it still look they're not loaded, 701 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: but they're good and if they have trouble with the 702 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: ground game, this is really gonna be fascinating to see 703 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: how McVey handles it. If Stafford can rise to the occasion. 704 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: You're in LA, they're opening up the stadium, You're gonna 705 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: have people there. It's gonna be a different kind of 706 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: scene for Matthew Stafford and that organization. You know, as 707 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: far as Stafford goes, Look, you're playing in the NFL 708 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: for decade plus, you've been around, you know what the 709 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: whole deal is about. But now you're in LA and 710 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: the focus is just that much different. I'm really curious 711 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: to see how that goes down. Look, Seattle's so entrenched, 712 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: you know. I know, every NFL team rolls over and 713 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 1: changes quite a bit, but when you've got the coach 714 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: and the quarterback there for so long, you kind of 715 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: know that you've got some stability the rams. Look, McVeigh 716 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: is a really good coach. There's no question about that. 717 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: Is he a great coach? Can he do it? Can 718 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: he win the championship? And now that he's got the quarterback, 719 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: what are the results going to be in a very 720 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: tough division. I'm so curious to fight out. Look, we're 721 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: playing that division, so we're gonna see them. An awful 722 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: lot to talk about them. Yep, no doubt. And I 723 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: think mcveigh's last two years now all of the Rams 724 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: did get to the second round and take on the Packers. 725 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: I think the fact that mcveigh's offense was not, oh 726 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 1: the McVeigh offense of a couple of years ago. There's 727 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: a little bit of coaching adversity there. And you know 728 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: some of the sniping that went back and forth with 729 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: Golf and McVeigh. You know, Golf's saying McVey was micromanaging me, 730 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: and McVeigh was saying, look, I had to because Golf 731 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: wasn't that kind of player. Well, okay, you went and 732 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: got Stafford. Now he's your kind of guy. What are 733 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: you gonna do with him? It's gonna be interesting, all right? 734 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: Coming up, rookie camp is coming up. Nick KISSI had 735 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: something very interesting to say. I thought a way to 736 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: look at it a perspective and anything else that's going 737 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: on around the league will hit on it next. On 738 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: Texans Radio Texans Radio, Maxen's Ray keeping your company out 739 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: of Tuesday Night Drive. I assume many of you are 740 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: driving right now, so be safe, especially if I was 741 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: on the roadways. But I'm so, we're okay, all right, 742 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: so let's go. And that's more of an indictment on 743 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: me than commentary on driving ability of our listeners. Trust 744 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: me on this, Mark Vanderbayer, John Harris with you. Rookie 745 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: camp coming up, Johnny, And look, the Texans are gonna 746 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: probably have some tryout guys coming in. I mean, you 747 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: basically have to to field whatever you're gonna field, right. 748 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: I remember one year, the twenty thirteen rookie camp, it 749 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: had some ungodly amount of players. I mean that might 750 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 1: have been the most there was one year under O'Brien 751 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: they had a ton as well, but I think it 752 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: was like forty five or fifty. It was some ridiculous amount. 753 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: They had all these tryout guys, all these undrafted free agents, 754 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: and you also had these year two guys or guys 755 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: who practice squaded in year one case, Keenum the most 756 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: notable and I remember them running and Colin Klein was 757 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: in that camp and they were running some really good 758 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: practices that year. Climb was out of Kansas State and 759 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: it looked good. And I remember talking to Kubiak about 760 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: it after one of the practices and I said, geez, 761 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: case looks pretty good. He goes, oh, yeah, he does. 762 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: You know they knew that he was on the rise 763 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: as a quarterback at the time. I don't know what 764 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna get this week, but I thought Cassio Johnny 765 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: at the Houston Texans Charity Golf Classic was right on 766 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: the money when he's you know, I can't I'm gonna 767 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: paraphrase here, but you're not gonna over evaluate every throw. 768 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: He makes a nice throw, It's not going to be 769 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: this sort of State of the Union address Davis Mills 770 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 1: looking so unbelievably awesome. Or if he makes a mistake, 771 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't say, oh that's it, you know, 772 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: no good. I mean you just have to go. It's 773 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: one step at a time. Andre Johnson and his rookie 774 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: camp had some drops because he was getting used to 775 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: the left hand and throwing rotation on the ball of 776 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: Dave Ragone and a fellow rookie quarterback at the time, 777 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: and there are other stories I could tell about things 778 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: like this. So we can't overreact or underreact to anything 779 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: we see this weekend. Well, let's let's do math here 780 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: and I did this a little bit, talk about this 781 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: a little bit last night. They drafted five rookies, they 782 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: have four as we think that we know of hasn't beneficial. 783 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: I'd made sure to say that for undrafted rookies, that's nine, right, 784 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: And so to me, you can't you know, those years 785 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: we were actually able to see a practice like them 786 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: going through a practice, and there were times where it 787 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: felt like a you know, a fire drill, because where 788 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: are you going? Who's this? And it got kind of crazy. 789 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,479 Speaker 1: But the point being you're not going to be able 790 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: to do that. You don't even have enough to field 791 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: an offense, defense, whatever the case might be. But you 792 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: can take them through what practice is going to feel like, 793 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, this is individual period, this is what we 794 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: were doing seven on seven. But the biggest thing is 795 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: you meet the position coaches, You learn where everything is, 796 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: you show how much of the playbook you've been able 797 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: to retain, you go through your your meetings. Really the 798 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: only thing you can't do is seven on seven, eleven 799 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: eleven stuff. You can't do that because you just don't 800 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: have numbers to do it. But you know what, Davis 801 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: can throw the ball to Brevin Jordan ant Nico Collins, 802 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: the offensive line. It can work on their steps and 803 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: fundamentals for you know, ninety minutes or whatever it is. 804 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: But the biggest thing is going through meetings. Here's where 805 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: everything is. Meet your position coaches, learn all that kind 806 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: of stuff so that you can hit the ground running 807 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: and training camp. And oh, by the way, some of 808 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: these guys are coming to Houston, I think for the 809 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: first time, so they have that going on. No, they 810 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: won't see Houston, but they at least here's the building, 811 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: here's where you're gonna be. Here's your locker room. I 812 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: mean last you they had four or five different locker rooms. So, yeah, 813 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: you won't have the seven on seven stuff, eleven on 814 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: the eleven stuff. It's gonna be all on air. But 815 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: ye at least get a chance to look at you 816 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: the look at the guys on the hoof, how they 817 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: look you know, what does Nico look like up close? 818 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: Does Brevin looked like? You know, all that kind of 819 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: stuff you'll be able to assess. But beyond that, I 820 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: mean unless there are a bunch of and I don't 821 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: think there are many among the roster that you know, 822 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: guys that have less than one year of service time. 823 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: But I don't think applies to anybody. Maybe Isaiah Coulter, 824 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: maybe he might apply. So you might have a few 825 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 1: of those guys. But it isn't enough to be able 826 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: to have a full on practice, but you can practice 827 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: in just a different way. And I think that's what 828 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: they'll do to get these guys, these young guys acclimated. 829 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: And I think these couple of days, two three days, 830 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: whatever it's gonna be, I think it's gonna be massive 831 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: for these rookies to just go through that experience to 832 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: just okay, my NFL career started as opposed to popping 833 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: into training camp and all of sudden they're storing with 834 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: the vets and the way you go, and it's like 835 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: whoa head spinning? Never been in Houston and all of 836 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, training camps here like Yo, this will help 837 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 1: I think the rookies in a majing way. So remember 838 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: when O'Brien would have this is pre rookie camp but 839 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: he would have these fake practices with anybody on the 840 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: football ops staff to simulate a practice, so they could 841 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: just go out there and you know, run a fake 842 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: practice and see what it was like. And they probably 843 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: didn't go full for like an hour and a half, 844 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,479 Speaker 1: but just did you know, whatever amount of time they did, 845 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, set up the towers to shoot everything, and 846 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: then go back in and just go through that dress 847 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: rehearsal of it all. And I said, listen, I'll volunteer, 848 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'll volunteer to go out there and you know, 849 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: practice do whatever. And he said, well, like what can 850 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: you play? And you know nothing, but you know, I 851 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: can run around as a tight end or something, you know, 852 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: if you're not gonna hit me, you know, of course 853 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: it'll be glacial speed. It'll be like runing roll like 854 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: that sucks? What are you doing? Yes? That would that 855 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: would have been interesting to see his head implode. There's 856 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: one there's one receiver, here's another receiver, and all of 857 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's vander Meer's turn. Been interesting though, But 858 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: of anything, I know you would have made the catch 859 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: because there's no way that a great ball would have 860 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: been thrown to you and you wouldn't have made the catch. 861 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: Maybe now. I caught a David Carr pass once during 862 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: a Sports Illustrated shoot. That's all I'm saying. You wouldn't you. 863 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: You wouldn't drop your opportunity. No, not at all. If 864 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: there's a camera involved, if there's gonna be media coverage, 865 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: I will certainly make that catch. Of course, there would 866 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: have been no media coverage of this anyway, Johnny, thanks 867 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: a lot. We look forward to tomorrow absolutely, Mark, thank you. 868 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, it's schedule release at six forty five will 869 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: happen for you right here. Plenty of details along the 870 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: way during the day on your Texans social media and 871 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: digital media channels, So tune in all day long. It's 872 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: gonna be fun and keep it here to Sports Radio 873 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: six ten all the time. I have a great night, everyone. 874 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: Thank you very much Robert for producing, and go Texans.