WEBVTT - Four Weddings and a Funeral with Kate Cheka 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.560 On the cast. The questions asked if movies have women 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:08.039 and them all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, or 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:12.400 do they have individualism? It's the patriarchy, zeph and Beast 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.000 start changing it with the Bechdel cast. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.120 Do do do do Do? 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:19.799 Do do do do? 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.840 Oh no, I'm gay and I've had a heart attack. 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:28.040 Oh no, And then oh and then there's a funeral. 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:29.480 What's the funeral music? 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.760 Oh god, I don't know if there's a go to funeral. 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.360 I guess there isn't. I was going to say do 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.000 do do do do do do, but I don't think 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:40.440 people like people don't really do that. 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:41.200 Yeah. 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.120 Yeah, that kind of reminded me of the Darth Vader March, 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:45.360 like the Imperial March. 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:52.320 Yeah, that felt like, yeah, maybe if someone shitty died, 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.160 I want that to play at my funeral. Something I 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.960 like about funerals now, something I appreciate about the contemporary 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.800 a funeral is that a lot of people just plug 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.560 their phone in. That's what we did at my dad's funeral. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.679 We made like a communal playlist of music he liked. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:10.560 I plugged it in. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.000 Okay, I was like, what do you mean? 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.360 I mean, it's just like, you just play the music 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.160 that the person liked. It makes way more sense than 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:22.080 like crying music. You know, yeah, play the sex pistols 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.840 have some fun totally. Anyways, I don't they play more 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.880 generic music at ED. I think, you know, probably in 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.360 the interest of budget. They're playing kind of in the movie. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:36.520 You mean, hey, yes, they're playing low budget, royalty free music. 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:37.160 Right. 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:42.160 Exactly, because the movie is four Weddings in a Funeral. 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:49.200 The podcast is the Bechdel Cast. Totally Caitlin Durante, who 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:50.320 are you, Jamie? 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.000 I truly am like having a like delayed brain. Here's 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.040 what happened. I had a Celsius at six am, and 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:02.000 then I started to crash at like nine thirty, and 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.320 I was like, I have to I have to maintain 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:08.240 my buzz. So I just got a gigantic coffee. I'm 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.000 Jamie Loftus and this is the Bexel Cast. The movie 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.440 where we take a look at your favorite the podcast 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.440 where we take the oh no, the podcast where we 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.480 take a look at your favorite movie is using from 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:26.680 an intersectional feminist, using the Bexel test as a jumping 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.600 off point for discussion. All of those words felt. 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:34.000 New in my mouth, like I never said, are you okay? 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.040 Something is going on. 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.960 It's gonna be one podcast and one funeral. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.120 Caitleb. What's the Bechtyl test? What the hell is it? 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.520 I'll tell I'll tell you. It is a media metric 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:55.320 created by close friend of the show, Alison Bechdel, first 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.079 appearing in her comic collection Dicks to Watch out For 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.840 in the eighties, has since been kind of adapted to 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:05.440 a more like mainstream media metric that has many different 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.760 versions of it. The one that we use is this, 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:13.480 do two characters of a marginalized gender have names? Do 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.040 they speak to each other? And is there conversation about 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.200 something other than a man? And then we particularly like 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:24.080 it when it's a narratively relevant, meaningful conversation and not 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.480 dialogue that could be cut out of the movie and 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:31.120 nothing would really change, right, And we're and we'll apply 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.440 it to four weddings in a funeral today. Did I 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.400 pay attention if it passes the Bechdel Test or not? 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:38.280 No? 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:39.320 I didn't. 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.120 Why would you say that at the beginning of the episode. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:47.200 Well, look, this is a chaos episode. I can feel it. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:48.320 We're just we're loose. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.560 I actually I was just googling if it passed, and 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:55.520 the phrase I googled was Bechtel test, four sisters and 0:03:55.640 --> 0:04:04.000 a wedding. I'm not sure what's going on today? Okay, amazing, Okay, okay, 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.120 nothing is working. Let's just let's bring our guests in here. 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:09.120 Okay. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:13.560 Maybe maybe she'll help stabilize us. Maybe it'll be even 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:14.400 more chaotic. 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.080 See, she's living in the night time, we're living in 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:17.400 the day. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:23.160 So true because she comes to us from across a sea. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.200 She is a comedian. You can check out her show 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.799 The Last Funny Woman at Edinburgh Fringe this year in August. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.440 And you remember her from our episode on angus, thongs 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.560 and perfect snogging. It's Kate Cheka. 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.080 Yeah, thank you for having me. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:43.159 Welcome back. 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.720 Oh gosh, thank you. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:47.080 I'm so happy to be back. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:51.039 We're delighted to have you. So you've brought us four 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:51.960 weddings in a funeral? 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:57.320 Tell us I did? I was excuse me of bringing it? 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:03.559 Well you did? Yeah, Well I do feel that wayship. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:06.599 What's your relationship with this movie? 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.159 My relationship with it? It was one of those ones 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.960 I saw as a child. I guess Richard Curtis is 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.839 like one of those British things, and so are Richard Curtis. 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.320 Movie is one of his British things. And you've seen 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.599 it as a child, and you've been raised with it, 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.680 and it just feels like a part of your culture. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:31.039 I think is the thing. And I've had issues with 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:35.080 other ones of his films, like Love Actually, which I'm 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:36.800 sure you've done right, one. 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.560 Of our very Yeah, I think we're due for a 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.359 real look maybe this holiday season. We didn't, but also 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.080 we didn't. We didn't care for it the first. Richard 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.400 Curtis has not fair age particularly well on our show. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.839 No, he doesn't age well usually. And I and Love Actually, 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.200 I thought Love Actually was one of my favorite films. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.839 I was under the impression. And then on the weekend 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:03.040 before Christmas last Christmas, I woke up in this beautiful 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:07.000 two bedroom flat in North London, Islington with this man there. 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.359 He's not that important, but I was. It was a 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.440 hook up. But then I ended up staying the weekend 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.479 in his beautiful flat because he had such a great flight. 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:17.560 He had like a claw foot bath and a fireplace, 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.760 and he kept saying things that I enjoyed, like there's 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.040 bubbly wine in the fridge. Left over from the Christmas party. 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:24.320 Do you want me to get it? I was like yes, 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.640 and like, do you want quack emole? And I was like, yeah, great, 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.440 I love it this house. And so I stayed there 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.760 at the house, not for him but for the beautiful house. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.680 And we watched Love Actually and ate homemade Quackamoley. 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.839 That does sound nice, right. 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.960 I was like, Wow, it's a Christmas romance. And then yeah, 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.880 I watched this film and I was like, this film 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.240 is awful. Did everyone know this because I hadn't seen it? 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.560 Okay, so long we were so we didn't. 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.080 We didn't know which this was gonna go. 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:55.520 We honestly didn't know. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.520 It was like, this film's horrible, Like it's a treatment 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.880 of women of people of color. I was like, this 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.960 is a bad film and it's so odd because I 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.920 was under the impression it was one of my favorite films. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.920 But no, I think a lot of us have had 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.960 that journey with many such cases. But how do you 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.120 feel about for weddings in a funeral? 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:23.000 Now, I'd watched it quite recently and I didn't feel 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:28.120 the same visceral. This is bad. But if we're going 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.480 to look at it through a feminist intersexual lens. I 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:35.480 don't think it does very good, but I awso. But 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.200 there's somehow with this film, and I don't know why, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.880 I'm more nostalgic. 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:41.840 Towards it interesting. 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:42.960 Sure, Yeah. 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.000 Do you think maybe because it's just a bit older, 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.680 like it was with you for a longer time, an 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:48.400 earlier age. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.160 Yeah. I think there's something about the two thousand line, 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.160 the year two thousand, where there's like, you can forgive 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.720 things that happened in the twentieth century. It was a 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:02.800 different you forgive them if they happened in the twenty 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:04.560 it was a different century. 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:05.120 Right. 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.960 Where is the twenty first century despite the handful of 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.640 years between these films, is a different century and by 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.560 the two thousands, we needed. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:15.760 To know a different millennium. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.520 Yeah, So I guess maybe it's that. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:19.960 Yeah, Yeah, I do. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.880 I felt like there's a version of Hugh Grant's face. 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:25.080 Hugh Grant in. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:29.160 His thirties is like a completely different vibe to contemporary 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.520 hugrit They're all great, but I feel like, yes, Hugh Grant, 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.440 for me, age is like a fine wine. You know, 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.640 we have to get through four weddings and a funeral 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:38.800 to get to Paddington. 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:39.680 Too kind of thing. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:44.120 Tell me about it performance, as Caitlin I said it before, 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:50.280 a generational performance. But there's also I don't know, I'm curious, Kitlyn, 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.760 what's your history with this movie? 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.280 Well? I saw it for the first time in the 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:01.080 Great Caitlin Movie Binge of two thousand and five. I 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.040 did not care for it at the time. I watched 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:08.079 it again twice for a podcast that I guessed it 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:13.440 on in twenty twenty one called five hundred Greatest Films 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:18.319 podcast hosted by my buds Hector and Keller. Oh yes, 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:19.800 I find on that as well. 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:21.360 I forget what movie I covered. 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:26.640 Who can say, but I really waxed poetic on that 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:31.720 episode about how much I deeply hate this movie. Wow. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.120 You disliking this movie went back so far. 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:39.840 Yeah, I have a long history of really loathing. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:41.800 Wow. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.080 And I thought maybe, I was like, look, it's been 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:51.000 five years since then, maybe I'll find something appealing about it. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.960 And there are little nuggets of things that I don't hate, 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:57.480 and we'll talk about them. But by and large, this 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.320 movie so much. So sorry, in advance to all of 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.480 our listeners love this movie. I am going to be 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:05.920 taking a massive dump on. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:10.679 It, you know, and normally when Caitlin is taking a 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.800 massive dump, I tend to fall somewhere. I tend to 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.000 fall somewhere in the middle. 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:19.360 However, I will be. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:25.400 Joining you today and jump, I really like, for reasons 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.480 that have to do with our podcasts and reasons that don't. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.320 The barrier gaze in Four Weddings and a Funeral is 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.800 so egregious and pisses me right off. 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:34.000 Right from the jump. 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.240 I was like, if I literally wrote out at the beginning, 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.719 if one of our only identifiably queer characters is. 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.480 The funeral, I'm gonna blow my house up. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.240 And I think so it. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:47.560 Was, and so it was. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.800 But yeah, I think, honestly, for me, i'd never seen 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.160 this movie before. I mix it up with another movie, 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.280 I forget what it is. And I know that there 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.080 was a remake of this movie that Kate. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.880 Mindy Kahaling did a series in twenty nineteen. 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:10.000 I think, Okay, I did not watch that either, But yeah, 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.080 I had never seen it before, and I honestly like, 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.400 I just thought it was boring. Honestly, that was I 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.880 think the movie's worst crime for me is I was 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.040 bored and I did like the only characters. 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:25.200 I the only character I like died, so you know. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.200 So I would say I did not like it. 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.320 And also even given the period, because I can Kate, 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:36.360 I totally agree, Like there are certain comedies and rom 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.560 coms that you're like, you know, it's it's worth the 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.839 monkey paw situation that you put yourself into by watching it. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.640 But for and this movie for me on every level, 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.120 there are better Hugh Grant movies in the nineties to watch. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.120 There are better Richard Curtis movies in the nineties to watch, 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.240 like it just I can't do it. I still haven't 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.520 seen Nodding Hill. But of the other Richard Curtis movies 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.360 we've covered on the pod, I think my favorite is 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.000 MoMA me I Here We Go Again, which she is 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.360 a credited writer on, so there's. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:11.559 A story by credit. I think. Yeah. His his filmography 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:12.800 is wild because. 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:17.400 I randomly Warhorse, he wrote war Horse that and then 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:23.480 Bizarre Notting Hill Love actually Bridgie Jones Diary and Bridgide 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:27.920 Jones too. He is also deep into Rowan Atkinson. Oh 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.720 he is Mester, He's mister well, he's well, he's not 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:35.800 mister Yeah, he's mister mister Bean. 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:36.360 We got there. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:39.640 Yes, also Rowan Atkinson. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.200 Oh my god, every time I see Ron Atkinson, I 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.480 think of the James A. Caster Special, my favorite story 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.920 ever about how James Acaster's fiance dumped him for mister 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.480 Bean and then married mister Bean and had mister Bean's baby. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:52.160 Wow. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:56.240 Like, every time something bad happens to me, I'm like, damn, 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:57.520 at least at least. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.800 I didn't leave me for mister Bean. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.600 That would be really bad. There's still time. 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.240 I love the idea of that day day Caster is 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.000 a gateway for mister Bean. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.480 And I'm sure that, like, given his like exact age, 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.720 he probably loved mister Bean too. 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.960 That had to be like devastating. 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.960 On many levels for traumatizing thoughts. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:24.640 In prayers Podcaster He's fine, He's fine. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:29.280 Yeah, Yeah, he's doing just great. So so yeah. Richard 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:34.280 Curtis directed by Mike Newell, who I think has mostly 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.480 done a lot of British things that I am not 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.640 familiar with. And then he directed one Harry Potter movie. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.920 He killed Robert Pattinson, that's to me. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:43.720 Yeah, he won. 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.559 That's the only thing I remember from that particular Harry 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.920 Potter movie is that Harry Potter has long hair and 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:55.079 Robert Pattinson dies. I think that's all that happens. I'm 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:56.680 sure who cares? 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:01.280 Yeah, who fucking cares? When it was written by history's greatest, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.559 the transphob piece of shit. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:05.559 Put all in the trash. 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.960 Shall we take a break and then come back for 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:08.920 the recap. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:10.040 Let's do it. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:20.920 And we're back. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.640 Let's check in, Kate, Are you mad at us? 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:31.280 I'm know, I'm just like, I'm interested, open minded here. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.200 Maybe it's a cultural thing, and I can argue very 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.360 well could be, but this is just so very British. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.800 I wonder that the whole time, where I'm like, am 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.960 I just too American to enjoy this movie? 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:44.320 That's what I'm wondering. 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.880 Well for me, Like I love a lot of British humor. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:54.000 I love The Full Monty is one of my favorite movies. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:15:00.440 I love like Simon Pegg penned films, Monty, Python, Yeah, 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.800 et cetera. Yeah, I love all of these things. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.800 Like I am cultured. I know about Britain. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.040 I exactly. 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.880 I know that Kitlyn's about to say staph while it's flats. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:12.280 I know you're about to drop it. 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:17.440 That's flat. Is the best show ever made? Yeah? So 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.160 I enjoy a lot of British humor. It's just that 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.760 this movie to me isn't funny. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:31.320 Sorry, sorry, so funny. Why do I think it's so funny? 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.520 I think it's it's like a whistle that we can't hear. 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:37.520 I don't know what it is. 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.320 It's yeah, I think I wanted to say because I like. 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.240 The one thing I was like thinking when I was 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:47.160 rewatching this was it's not good in terms of like 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.720 representation and stuff, but boy is it funny. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:52.520 I'm willing. 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:59.720 I'm willing to I'm willing to be swede. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.440 I'm I mean, look, I've got an open mind and 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:03.240 an open heart. 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.440 Yes, so it's true. 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:07.200 It's true. 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:07.720 All right. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.160 So let's take a look at what happens in the movie. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.320 We meet several people as they are getting ready to 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:18.160 head to a wedding, one of them being Charles. This 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:22.120 is Hugh Grant of Paddington two fame. Charles and his 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:26.840 flatmate Scarlett played by Charlotte Coleman. They wake up late 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.320 and have to rush to the wedding. This will become 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:35.200 a motif where he's always late to weddings. Their other 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.600 friends are sister and brother Fiona and Tom played by 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.400 Kristin Scott Thomas and James Fleet. There is a gay 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:48.680 couple Gareth and Matthew played by Simon Callo and John Hannah. 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:53.680 Charles's brother David played by David Bauer. They all attend 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.880 the wedding of Angus and Laura. Also at this wedding 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:02.200 is a woman who catches Charles's eye. This is Carrie 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.560 played by Andy McDowell. Fiona seems to know her, and 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:11.919 she says that Carrie is American and a slut, but 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.960 that does not deter Charles, and he approaches her. That's 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:22.160 so brave of him. Yeah, he approaches her at the reception, 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.359 but then immediately makes a fool out of himself in 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:30.120 front of an acquaintance of his played by Simon Koontz, 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.480 who we all recognize as Martin the Butler in Lindsay 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:34.800 Lohan's My Parent Trap. 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:35.720 I was cheering. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.680 I was cheering, cheering, cheering to see Martin the Butler. 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.920 I don't think I've ever seen him in anything else. 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.760 It was a true I feel like he's a very 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:47.920 one of those actors that's in a lot of us stuff. 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.920 Okay, Yeah, it's like watching a Mike Lee movie where 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:56.320 you're like these these people look familiar, but who are they? 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:02.000 Okay, So Charles gives his best man speech and people 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.639 are laughing their little asses off, and Carrie seems to 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:11.160 think he's funny and charming. Then you know, people start dancing. 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:17.000 Mister Bean is there. He's a priest in training. The 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:22.520 night wears on, people are getting wasted. One of the bridesmaids, Lydia, 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.679 thought that she was gonna find a hunk at the 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.119 wedding to sleep with, like it was gonna be a 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.119 sure thing that she's a bridesmaid, so she's gonna have sex, 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.560 but she can't find anyone. And then this guy, Bernard 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.479 is like, I'll do it, and she's like, ooh, yucky. 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.080 But then later they start furiously making out and they 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:48.119 love it. They're the second wedding. Yes. Yes. At the 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.600 end of the night, Carrie, who Charles thought had left, 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.480 approaches him and asks him where he's staying that night, 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.840 and he's like, oh, I'm staying at my friend's castle, 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.200 and she's like like, oh, well, I'm staying at the Boatman, 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.320 where he was originally supposed to stay. So he blows 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:09.480 off his friends and goes there to try to run 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:14.200 into her again, which he does. There's a part where 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:19.040 he's getting cock blocked by some wind bag. Yeah, but 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:22.680 Carrie invites Charles up to her room and pretty soon 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.520 they're smooching and then they have sex. 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.280 Did you catch what the wind bag said as well? 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:30.600 I thought that was quite dark for a rom com. 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:35.639 He was like stalking Carrie, being like, I have a 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.600 chance with her. I'm pretty sure I'm going to get 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:38.280 to fuck. 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:42.680 HER's and she's actively hiding from him. 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:44.160 I hide mind the sofa. 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.800 Yeah, it does feel like and we'll have a whole 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:52.560 conversation about how Carrie's sexuality is discussed within the movie. 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.960 But it seems like her reputation precedes her in a 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:59.879 way that is getting her actively harassed by everyone. And 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.920 I think if we bou chevy test sort of, well, 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.080 I guess not as much with Charles, because she does 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:11.480 approach Charles and indicate interest, which does not happen with 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:12.600 anyone else. 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:18.359 Correct. Yes, Yeah, So they have sex and then the 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:22.720 next morning she's like, Okay, since we slept together, we 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:29.560 have to get married. Just kidding, hahha, I'm quirky. 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:32.280 And then he does the bajillionth It is wild. We 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:37.720 covered it a long time ago, but the long influential 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:41.640 tale of oh my gosh, fatal attraction. 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.840 I almost said final destination. I was like, that's not right, 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:45.600 that's not right. 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.119 But the amount of times that fatal attraction is like 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:55.560 referenced just as a shorthand for like woman who is unhinged, 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:57.520 it happens to this day. 0:20:57.800 --> 0:20:58.320 That movie. 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.800 That movie really did a dirty one on culture. 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:06.000 It really made an impression on insecure men. 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:10.240 God forbid, Glenn Close, do a good job, Jesus. 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:15.680 Yeah. Okay. So she like makes a joke and then 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.560 she's like, okay, bye, I have to go back to America, 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:23.199 see ya, And she leaves and Charles is like, won't. 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:23.639 Won't. 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:28.359 There goes my dream woman. We cut to three months later. 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:32.959 It is the wedding of Lydia and Bernard. Once again, 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.080 Charles and Scarlet are running late to the wedding, so 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:42.640 they have to sprint there. The same friend group is there, Fiona, Tom, Matthew, Gareth, David, 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:47.280 and then mister Bean is officiating. But it's his first 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:49.439 wedding and so he's really nervous and he does a 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:54.920 terrible job in a scene that is, I'm sorry, way 0:21:54.920 --> 0:22:03.280 too long and dare I say name funny? He makes 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:03.800 so many. 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.359 Kooky mistakes because. 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:12.560 I'm Swisszerland here there? Okay, So then at the reception, 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:17.760 guess who's there? It's Carrie. Even though we don't know 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.720 who she knows at any of these weddings or other events. 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.360 We don't know who she's friends with. 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:28.200 Seriously, we don't know. We know the things about her 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:30.040