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Speaker 1: Thank you, Tony. Throughout his eleven year career, Draymond Green
Speaker 1: has become the NBA's most fascinating villain. And we you know,
Speaker 1: the sport is littered with these villains, and guys make
Speaker 1: a career out of being that kind of player. But
Speaker 1: it's not the tough guy that it used to be
Speaker 1: when you were an enforcer. Now it's more theat and
Speaker 1: you've got that going on with the Memphis Grizzlies, and
Speaker 1: you certainly have that with Draymond Green. Draymond Green is
Speaker 1: more wwe Dennis Rodman was not that kind of player.
Speaker 1: Wasn't a dirty player. He was a very very smart player.
Speaker 1: His job was to get into your head, but he
Speaker 1: didn't have to do it in a theatrical way the
Speaker 1: way Draymond has done. And we mentioned this yesterday because
Speaker 1: I'm going to factor in his priors suspensions technicals, his antics.
Speaker 1: Factor in the commissioner was actually at the game. And
Speaker 1: also I think he was going to be suspended if
Speaker 1: they were going to suspend him because of what happened
Speaker 1: after the play, the theatrics, what he was doing to
Speaker 1: the crowd, and he was not apologetic whatsoever. And I
Speaker 1: think if he had handled it differently, but he can't
Speaker 1: if he had handled it differently instead of in a
Speaker 1: selfish manner and just said after the game, once you
Speaker 1: got ejected, you go, you talk to the media. Look
Speaker 1: my bad, my bad. And you're eleven years into this role.
Speaker 1: You're eleven years into your NBA career. Draymond is not
Speaker 1: changing because he's going to have a career after this.
Speaker 1: You know, he's already got his podcast. He'll fill in
Speaker 1: sometimes on TNT, He'll probably do WWE. I mean, he
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. But he doesn't know what he's
Speaker 1: doing when he's on the floor. Because the NBA could
Speaker 1: have fined him fifty thousand dollars. Well, that doesn't hurt
Speaker 1: the Warriors. Suspending Draymond hurts the Warriors. So now it's
Speaker 1: on his teammates. That's now it's Stephen Clay, Steve Kerr,
Speaker 1: Like this is now hurting you guys. And I think
Speaker 1: if he had just had the one tap to Subonis,
Speaker 1: then maybe he wouldn't have been suspended. You come back
Speaker 1: from a you know, he went back for seconds. He
Speaker 1: did it double tap there. Okay, you might be suspended,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be fined, But then you had the theatrics then,
Speaker 1: and the commissioner's watching this, so he's watching this in
Speaker 1: real time right in front of him and probably thinking, Draymond,
Speaker 1: get off floor, Get off the floor. Now I have
Speaker 1: to do something here. I didn't think he was going
Speaker 1: to be suspended, but the you know, commissioner probably had
Speaker 1: to factor in everything that Draymond has done. I think
Speaker 1: it was more egregious, you know, the way he acted
Speaker 1: after the play. I mean, where is Steve Kerr or
Speaker 1: Steph Curry? They enabled him grab him. He's your teammate.
Speaker 1: Is Draymond not going to listen to Steph Curry Klay Thompson.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're all they think it's funny. Oh that's
Speaker 1: Draymond being Draymond. Well you go to Game three without him?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark, I think they're so used to it, because
Speaker 3: remember the jord Pool incident where you can see them
Speaker 3: yelling at one another. Steph Curry's just looking away. He
Speaker 3: seems like he's just very used to it. So he
Speaker 3: didn't even say anything. He didn't even turn his head.
Speaker 1: I know that this has been brought up and will
Speaker 1: continue to be brought up. But you go back to
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen NBA Finals, the Calves were down three
Speaker 1: to one against Golden State and Draymond got suspended, and
Speaker 1: then of course the Calves came back and won that.
Speaker 1: Kyrie's big shot. Now he has helped them win four titles.
Speaker 1: They could have moved on from him a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. They know what they have. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a necessary evil. He's the kind of player where you go,
Speaker 1: do I want him on my team? Yeah? Do I
Speaker 1: want to play against him? No? Now I don't want
Speaker 1: him on my team, certainly now at this age, But
Speaker 1: you know, when he was twenty eight, twenty seven, twenty six,
Speaker 1: he was a very, very valuable player for this team.
Speaker 1: And here they are defending champs. But when you start
Speaker 1: the season punching a teammate and now we're here, we
Speaker 1: are like, at some point you have to say, you're
Speaker 1: your own worst enemy. But who's helping him here? Who's
Speaker 1: grabbing him and saying, Draymond, you know you're not irreplaceable anymore.
Speaker 1: He's got one more year left on his deal. Do
Speaker 1: you want to bring him in at a big salary here?
Speaker 1: And the answer is you don't. But here we are
Speaker 1: in the moment. He's been suspended a game and now
Speaker 1: you're the Sacramento Kings. Now you got him backed up
Speaker 1: a little bit here. Do I expect Golden State to
Speaker 1: win in Game three? I do, But let's make no
Speaker 1: mistake about what the Sacramento Kings have done the first
Speaker 1: two games. They're the ones that had the composure. And
Speaker 1: we wondered about them playing defense. They played defense. Just
Speaker 1: ask Steph Curry. They played defense. They're going to score.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Subonis is going to play. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the X ray show on his contusion off Hey,
Speaker 1: Bruce Sternham, But yeah, it's it's one of those in
Speaker 1: a vacuum, you look at it and you go, okay,
Speaker 1: is it that big a deal? But then you know,
Speaker 1: you start to expand the mushroom cloud here and you
Speaker 1: go it is. I think the conduct detrimental to the
Speaker 1: game is what costs Draymond his priors and then how
Speaker 1: he acted afterwards. But I got to put some blame
Speaker 1: on Steve Kerr and Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. Now
Speaker 1: it may seem funny, you know, he's our agitator, he's
Speaker 1: our energizing bunny. But this is costing you. And that's
Speaker 1: why suspending him hurts Golden State. Finding him fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars doesn't hurt Golden State. It doesn't even hurt Draymond
Speaker 1: because Draymond got a lot of publicity, and I think
Speaker 1: the NBA probably said, if we're going to go at him,
Speaker 1: then we got to hurt the Golden State Warriors because that,
Speaker 1: to me, it starts to become a team on display
Speaker 1: there what you did and what you didn't do. We
Speaker 1: saw Draymond. There's a moment where Draymon is yelling to
Speaker 1: the crowd. Steve Kerr has his head down in the huddle,
Speaker 1: trying to talk to his team. Got to start somewhere.
Speaker 1: Draymond's not changing. Steve Kerr, who played with Dennis Rodman,
Speaker 1: knows better. Steph Curry, Klay Thompson. Yeah, it might be funny,
Speaker 1: but you're riling up them and you were still in
Speaker 1: the game, and look, it was still close to the
Speaker 1: final seven minutes. But you know in that moment, you're
Speaker 1: down four technical and Sabonis. If Draymond acts mature for
Speaker 1: a change, Steph hits the free throw, you're down three.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, you got a little bit
Speaker 1: of momentum. I think you took away whatever that momentum
Speaker 1: was going to be. Even though Golden State did come back.
Speaker 1: I think they might have taken the lead by one.
Speaker 1: But now you go back home and you don't have
Speaker 1: Draymond there. Yeah, Pulm.
Speaker 4: Do you think Steve Kerr thinks kind of the opposite
Speaker 4: that we do, Like, I'm just gonna let this play out,
Speaker 4: like I do with everything with this team, with injuries,
Speaker 4: with Steph when he has an ankle, Relax, nothing's a
Speaker 4: big deal.
Speaker 5: Even this.
Speaker 4: I'll just let him vent for a couple minutes, will
Speaker 4: win Game three with a backup.
Speaker 5: You know, like it seems like Steve.
Speaker 4: Kerr realizes I'm in on this guy, and I've been
Speaker 4: in on him since he was twenty three years old.
Speaker 4: Might as well just let it play out because it's
Speaker 4: always worked. That's the only reason I could think where
Speaker 4: he wouldn't step in.
Speaker 1: But this hurts your team.
Speaker 5: I don't know if he thinks that.
Speaker 4: I think he knows his bench players like great, I
Speaker 4: get twenty five more minutes, I'll we'll wrap up Game
Speaker 4: three and Draymond comes back. When he came back last year,
Speaker 4: he got in trouble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was very critical him the first two
Speaker 1: games against the Celtics, because he was embarrassing himself. He
Speaker 1: was falling all over you know, Jason Tatum, and I'm
Speaker 1: going just play bass football. You're still a very very
Speaker 1: good basketball player. But he got caught up in the
Speaker 1: whole theatrics. And sometimes when you can't play at a
Speaker 1: high level anymore, then you try to do stupid stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And I was disappointed in him last year
Speaker 1: those first couple of games. And then he came back
Speaker 1: and then he just played basketball, but that the commissioner's
Speaker 1: watching that Draymond forced his hand, didn't agree that he was.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was going to be suspended and
Speaker 1: didn't think he should be suspended for what happened with
Speaker 1: sabonas it's the other stuff, and you sit him down
Speaker 1: for a game, and maybe Golden State survives this, but
Speaker 1: you can't keep this is a first round matchup. It's
Speaker 1: not like you go, yeah, you know, we survived, okay,
Speaker 1: But when you get to that point where you're playing
Speaker 1: quality teams or you know, it's Cleveland and we're up
Speaker 1: three to one and I'm having fun, and I'm gonna, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna suspend me for a game? Okay, we're three
Speaker 1: you want. Now we're up three to two. Now we're
Speaker 1: tied at three to three. Now we just lost. Not
Speaker 1: so funny anymore. And I think that's what Steph and
Speaker 1: Clay have to realize. You're not as good as you
Speaker 1: guys were last year. You don't have somebody who's gonna
Speaker 1: be able to come in there and take his place,
Speaker 1: and just having his presence there, I mean, he's really
Speaker 1: very smart, which is strange to say to have a
Speaker 1: high basketball IQ and then do these things. Yeah, pullint.
Speaker 4: I guess that's what bothers me about his situation is
Speaker 4: there was no upside to what he did the other night.
Speaker 4: He wasn't like doing a hip check to send a
Speaker 4: message or a sneaky little play with some upside. There
Speaker 4: is nothing but downside for him to stop on someone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if this is a game where it's late and
Speaker 1: you want to send a message and you're you know,
Speaker 1: you're being blown out, like all right, we're gonna hey,
Speaker 1: we'll see you in San Francisco, whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: You know, I understand sometimes that you can kickstart your team,
Speaker 1: but your team was already kickstarted. You were guilty of
Speaker 1: what twenty turnovers? I mean, you were losing this game
Speaker 1: and you didn't you could have won this game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna throw it for a poll question.
Speaker 6: Just what got Draymond suspended? The foul or the antics after?
Speaker 6: Do I have to put in or everything else he's
Speaker 6: done too well? The priors go in.
Speaker 1: The NBA said that that they've had to factor in.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you get pulled over for speeding five
Speaker 1: times and then I get you the sixth time, you
Speaker 1: can't go gosh. I never get I never speed. Does
Speaker 1: it work that way?
Speaker 4: Like if you get a speeding ticket, if you get
Speaker 4: like three in a year, do they do they raise
Speaker 4: the price on you because you've got priors.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they, but they take you to
Speaker 1: take you to jail after a while.
Speaker 6: It definitely happens for other things. Yes, it does, like
Speaker 6: if you have priors, it definitely yes. Ratchet escalonishment y yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: And I know.
Speaker 1: I talked to somebody in the league office yesterday and
Speaker 1: I said, is that fair to do that with? Can't
Speaker 1: you do it isolated? They said no, because you have
Speaker 1: to factor in. Does this person is this habitual? Was
Speaker 1: the word that was used. I said, well, it is
Speaker 1: habitual for him, Yes, Todd, You were going to say.
Speaker 2: Imagine if they did those other aspects of the Lud's
Speaker 2: My first armed robbery was I'm not that kind of guy.
Speaker 2: Today I felt someone kissed me off and I just
Speaker 2: decided to go do That's just I'm not going to
Speaker 2: do it again.
Speaker 1: So what's the how do you want to phrase the
Speaker 1: poll question?
Speaker 6: See, I think I'm going to just keep it with
Speaker 6: the foul or the antics after Okay, the foul or
Speaker 6: everything after everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good grief. I mean he put on a I
Speaker 1: mean that's a show. That was a one man show.
Speaker 1: And after a while you're going, Okay, I think, all right,
Speaker 1: now it's time to leave. Nope, Nope, that arena is
Speaker 1: there to see him. Of course that's what he thinks.
Speaker 1: Yes they are, Yeah, yes, Marv.
Speaker 3: Yeah. When Draymond started doing the Hulk, Hogan ear to,
Speaker 3: you know, hands to so everyone can hear. All right,
Speaker 3: let me hear you, guys.
Speaker 1: And he has no problem being the bad guy. He'll
Speaker 1: be in WWE if I'm met WWE right as soon
Speaker 1: as I can a day off, Draymond, do you want
Speaker 1: to come in? Yes?
Speaker 6: See, like see, he's not my brand of bad guy, though,
Speaker 6: he's like an annoying bad guy.
Speaker 1: You know what bad guy? I loved that sadly is missing.
Speaker 1: You want to tell me after the break I can, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody everybody think about their favorite bad guy. Okay, because
Speaker 1: this was a great bad guy. Now he's just a
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Speaker 1: Question has to do with Draymond Green being suspended eight
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Speaker 1: This in from Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network. The
Speaker 1: Niners have received inquiries from several teams looking into a
Speaker 1: potential trade for the number former number three pick. Overall
Speaker 1: trade lance conversations have been the result of San Francisco
Speaker 1: fielding the calls, not making them, with teams aware that
Speaker 1: brock Pretty is likely the future. What would it cost?
Speaker 1: That'd be my first question? What would it cost to
Speaker 1: get Trey lance? Considering what you gave up to move
Speaker 1: up to get Trey Lance. We'll talk to Mike Florio
Speaker 1: a little bit later on get his thoughts on this.
Speaker 1: But you're getting calls in this. You know, you kick
Speaker 1: the tires on this because you go, all right, what's
Speaker 1: going to cost? How about second round pick?
Speaker 3: Hmm?
Speaker 1: You pay his bonus? No, you pay his bonus? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean he's still so young and hasn't
Speaker 1: played a lot of football, and he's been working out
Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes. I think, I mean that can certainly help,
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure, not sure if your Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: Are you excited about that? Or do you think you know,
Speaker 1: maybe rock Perty comes back to Earth and I'm going
Speaker 1: to be there, or if his arm isn't completely healthy,
Speaker 1: I get a chance to get in there and maybe
Speaker 1: steal this job from him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Point, if you're the Niners, would you be patient and
Speaker 4: let it play out a little more with Brock Purdy or.
Speaker 5: Would you take a nice offer?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 5: Nice a nice?
Speaker 1: Am I getting a first round pick for trait?
Speaker 5: I don't think you would.
Speaker 4: Let's let's say you got a mid second round pick
Speaker 4: from Detroit, a team that could throw throw it at
Speaker 4: a young guy, let him develop and take over some day.
Speaker 1: Well, you saw something initially, and I trust Kyle Shanahan's eye,
Speaker 1: you saw something that you were willing to go up
Speaker 1: and get him, and you stumbled into Brock party and
Speaker 1: you got a quarterback who doesn't cost you anything. I
Speaker 1: would keep Trey Lance just as an I would want
Speaker 1: to know if Brock Perdy can do it again. Now,
Speaker 1: if it's a really good offer, then I could say, well,
Speaker 1: I got Sam Darnold here as a backup, but he
Speaker 1: might just be a career backup from here on out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: See, but isn't it kind of like you want to
Speaker 6: see if Brock Purdy can do it again versus if
Speaker 6: Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: Can do it at all? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I mean I don't even know why anybody would call
Speaker 6: for him. Well, I think that they look at if
Speaker 6: you can get him on the cheap. He's got a
Speaker 6: lot of talent, but he just didn't play a lot
Speaker 6: of football. This is where you fall in love with
Speaker 6: somebody after one year. I got to have a larger
Speaker 6: sample size.
Speaker 1: If I'm going to go all in on somebody, I
Speaker 1: got to know that you've done this, that it's sustainable.
Speaker 1: The sample size is two years. Maybe. I mean Zach Wilson,
Speaker 1: I said the same thing. That makes me nervous. You've
Speaker 1: done it one year, Trey Lance one year, Dwayne Haskins
Speaker 1: one year. I got to Now, there are exceptions to
Speaker 1: the rule, but I want to know what you did
Speaker 1: from one year to the next. How much did you
Speaker 1: get better?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, I'm looking at stories from a year ago
Speaker 4: right now discussing whether the Niners should keep Garoppolo or
Speaker 4: go all in with Trey Lance. Now it's possible that
Speaker 4: both could be gone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, wild is that?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: Garoppolo's gone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But like a year ago, that was the debate
Speaker 4: right before the draft, what did the Niners do?
Speaker 5: They're set at quarterback or are they not set?
Speaker 1: Yeah? He's still expensive from the signing bonus though, Trey Lance, Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you would have to eat some of that. And
Speaker 4: plus you're going into year three with him, so if
Speaker 4: you traded for him, you would still have to make
Speaker 4: a decision on him or just let him go after
Speaker 4: one year he's played.
Speaker 5: In the past three seasons, he's played in five football games.
Speaker 4: Twenty two he played two football games, twenty one he
Speaker 4: started two football games, and in twenty twenty that wonky
Speaker 4: year at North Dakota State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they played one game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess like South Alabama or someone weird.
Speaker 1: And then it was the previous season where he went undefeated,
Speaker 1: that monster year and didn't throw an interception.
Speaker 5: He hadn't started a season since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6: Why stat of the day stout out of a day?
Speaker 1: This is the stule of the day, Melissa Ethridge. There,
Speaker 1: you know you can say Trey Lance is well rested.
Speaker 1: He's well rested. That arm is good. All right, your
Speaker 1: favorite bad guy? Seaton brought this up before the commercial break,
Speaker 1: where Draymond Green is not your your ideal bad is
Speaker 1: not just my brand of bad guy. Okay, your brand
Speaker 1: of bad guy is who.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a guy who was a bad guy just
Speaker 6: recently in the past couple of years, and it was
Speaker 6: awesome because he was so in this one franchise's head
Speaker 6: and now lately he's playing more just kind of like
Speaker 6: a bad guy.
Speaker 1: Bad Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was gonna guess rush On Rondo, but that last hint.
Speaker 1: Uh no, but that's not a bad one though.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 6: Oh, Okay, Trey Young when he was sort of like
Speaker 6: maybe not the bad guy, but he was a little
Speaker 6: bit of a villain. You know, he's popping his jersey
Speaker 6: and dudes are bumping his shoulders and he's like, ain't
Speaker 6: no thing. That dude was awesome. I loved that guy.
Speaker 6: Whatever happened great, whatever happened to that guy? And do
Speaker 6: I want him back? I love that bad guy. I'm
Speaker 6: watching the Celtics and the Hall I had turned it off.
Speaker 6: I'm like, this is bad the Hawks. It's just not
Speaker 6: good basketball. And then I wonder where's he going? Because
Speaker 6: it felt like, man, this is a rocket ship. Do
Speaker 6: you want to trade for him? Do you want to
Speaker 6: build your offense around Trey Young? Because does he want
Speaker 6: to stay in Atlanta?
Speaker 4: His stats go down in the playoffs like regro season. Heah,
Speaker 4: it was twenty six and ten this year. I mean
Speaker 4: that's fantastic, But his shooting percentage keeps going down year
Speaker 4: by year. His playoff shooting percentage doesn't match at all
Speaker 4: his regular season.
Speaker 5: It's way down every year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he might just be that regular season kind
Speaker 1: of player, James Harden, regular season kind of player. Get
Speaker 1: into the postseason, that's when defenses are really keyed on you.
Speaker 1: They you know, no, you know, they're really studying your tendencies.
Speaker 1: And it's not just you're in town one night, now
Speaker 1: you're going to the next game. But man the artist
Speaker 1: formerly known as the Atlanta Hawks, Todd your favorite bad guy.
Speaker 2: Some people love him, some people hate him. But I
Speaker 2: kind of consider him a bad guy because if his antics.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go John McEnroe. I just loved watching
Speaker 2: him and he'd freak out and yell and be inappropriate
Speaker 2: with officials.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go John McEnroe.
Speaker 1: Figured somebody from the eighties.
Speaker 3: Marvin breakfasted, wimbled a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Marvin, how about you?
Speaker 3: Just because I saw this guy in person, wants Kevin Garnett. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm maybe he might may not be considered a bad guy,
Speaker 3: but some people they hate him.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was a bad guy. I
Speaker 1: think he was a great player who just talked a lot,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if he did dirty things or
Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd consider him a bad guy. Yeah.
Speaker 6: See, is there a difference between being a bad guy
Speaker 6: and a villain? Like you might not be a bad guy,
Speaker 6: right or a dirty player or something, but when you
Speaker 6: come to town that other team hates you. Like, I
Speaker 6: can't stand that dude, because I don't know whatever it
Speaker 6: is there that he's in your head or whatever it is,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 1: Like Christian Lightner, right, did I just take care he's.
Speaker 4: Emartus, Yes, he is whatever is above Mount Rushmore later
Speaker 4: was not only the best player in the sport, he
Speaker 4: was the most disliked, annoying, frustrating, I loved him player
Speaker 4: in the sport.
Speaker 5: Rarely are those the best. Rarely It's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you have a high end, high high end
Speaker 1: player that everybody acknowledges his great and one of the
Speaker 1: greats of all time in college basketball. But when you
Speaker 1: do a documentary called I Hate Christian late and he participates, okay,
Speaker 1: like he embraced it. I know, I know. I'm a
Speaker 1: bleep yeah More.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those guys in that category are those guys where
Speaker 3: you play like, I hate this guy, but if he's
Speaker 3: on your team, yeah, he's your favorite player, almost like
Speaker 3: a Joe Kim Noah. Everyone else hated him, but in
Speaker 3: Chicago he's beloved. He might be in that category.
Speaker 6: Our camera guy Weeks just called them the antagonist. That's
Speaker 6: that's pretty good. That's pretty good word for like the
Speaker 6: person that we described an antagonist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is Tanya Harding She's a bad guy, bad girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was bad.
Speaker 3: She was go to those kind of lengths to win.
Speaker 1: Well, I know, normally you don't have a villain in
Speaker 1: figure skating. You can't guard anybody in figure skating, but
Speaker 1: you know you could take a pipe to their their knee.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think there's a few NFL guys that were
Speaker 4: high end players but also were kind of like little
Speaker 4: cheap shot type guys like heinz Ward had that rep.
Speaker 5: Yeah again, I'm a big fan of his. I'm not
Speaker 5: against him. Remember Bill Romanowski the linebacker, very good ballplayer
Speaker 5: but also a pest.
Speaker 1: Yes, Brian Bosworth.
Speaker 4: Sure, not long enough though I wish well in college?
Speaker 5: Oh Alzheimer?
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, trying to think who else is? I mean,
Speaker 1: I never thought Rodman was a bad guy. I just
Speaker 1: think he was an agitator, a nuisance, and that was
Speaker 1: part of the role that he was going to play.
Speaker 1: They are bad guys, but they were like Bill Laimbeer.
Speaker 1: Bill Laimbeer is he might be the Christian Latner of
Speaker 1: NBA players, where he was pretty good but you hated him.
Speaker 1: I think it was on this day if oh Man,
Speaker 1: if hold on here, talk amongst yourselves. It dance for
Speaker 1: History two hours early, Okay, I think it was on
Speaker 1: this date nineteen ninety the seventy six ers clinched their
Speaker 1: first divisional title and a brawl breaks out between Charles
Speaker 1: Barkley and Bill Laimbeer and it resulted in one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty two thousand dollars in fine so right on
Speaker 1: Q with Bill Laimbeer and Charles Barclay. And there were
Speaker 1: actual punches thrown in that scrum that they had there.
Speaker 1: Who else was? How about Grayson Allen? Is he still
Speaker 1: tripping people?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: He's had a nice NBA career, like he's a good player.
Speaker 1: It's been kind of quiet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Marv the NHL player Sean Avery.
Speaker 1: Oh good call.
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about hockey, but I knew him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I met his wife, a model famous or well
Speaker 1: not a fan. Oh yeah, Hillary Hillary rolling Cup like
Speaker 1: Hillary Ryder Cup is O Cup. I don't know what Hillary,
Speaker 1: not Hillary Rodham Clinton, but it's Hillary Rhoda who saw
Speaker 1: her in person in Miami? Wow?
Speaker 7: Wow?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Did you just google it?
Speaker 5: Used to play?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, yeah, that was one of those My eyes
Speaker 1: were burning and I was like, ah, it hurts to
Speaker 1: look not that bad.
Speaker 3: Yes, what about John Rocker?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 5: He was pretty good for a while.
Speaker 1: He had four years.
Speaker 5: It was a good closer.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, misunderstood. Well, somebody told me a different era.
Speaker 1: You got him, You got him all wrong, but it's
Speaker 1: just from a different era the times. Well, he did
Speaker 1: the Sports Illustrated article about riding the subway to Shay Stadium,
Speaker 1: and that's where it all happened. Where he was talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, seeing all these people on the subway and uh,
Speaker 1: they brought that to light in that Sports Illustrated article.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, and Domna can sue the defensive tackle.
Speaker 4: When he was at Nebraska and early in his career,
Speaker 4: he got a lot of incidents on the field mostly
Speaker 4: but when we would interview me, such a nice, docile guy,
Speaker 4: and then on the field he would have those where
Speaker 4: he just.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's better to have it
Speaker 1: that way then the other way. You know, he gets
Speaker 1: on the field and he's a really nice doc Off
Speaker 1: the field, man, he'll rip your head off. He'll I'm
Speaker 1: donating a million dollars to Nebraska and I'm very he's
Speaker 1: he's going to kick you in the groin that guy
Speaker 1: eight seven seven three DP show if you want to
Speaker 1: jump in and the pole question, give us the phrasing
Speaker 1: of that pole question.
Speaker 6: See, well we have another one too that I'm considering
Speaker 6: putting up a bigger overreaction. The NBA suspending Draymond Green
Speaker 6: or Demonta Sabonis rolling around round.
Speaker 1: You know it's the new NBA. I mean it's theatrical.
Speaker 1: Sabonis did what he needed to do to sell it,
Speaker 1: and Draymond got his money's worth. They they both were
Speaker 1: on stage and you saw how they reacted to it.
Speaker 3: You stepped doing a.
Speaker 1: You put your foot all the way through my my,
Speaker 1: my sternum. I think this is soccer. I'm gonna blame
Speaker 1: this on soccer.
Speaker 6: Okay, first of all, all right, soccer is way more
Speaker 6: physical than people realize.
Speaker 1: Don't start with this crap. But the reactionis Sibonis could
Speaker 1: have been Ronaldo out there. Yeah, they they they flop,
Speaker 1: they do, yes, some people, yes, Mark, to.
Speaker 3: Go back to the villain part. We forgot about our
Speaker 3: favorite Patrick Beverley.
Speaker 8: Mmm.
Speaker 1: He's annoying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you're right, but he's just he's more
Speaker 6: like a lamer version of Draymon actually like he's like,
Speaker 6: I want to see what you're going for, but you're
Speaker 6: not as good as him, so find your own lane.
Speaker 1: Yes, I see what you're trying to do. You're not though. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's a wanna bee trying so hard, but he's going
Speaker 1: to parlay that into a TV job.
Speaker 3: He's already got a podcast on barstool. No, are you
Speaker 3: doing that?
Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah, we'll take a break. We got
Speaker 1: our poll question, we'll update that and we'll start our
Speaker 1: player of the day. Tomorrow Hamlin is coming back. I've
Speaker 1: got the odds for the NFL's comeback Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: I have him prior to the announcement with Tomorrow Hamlin
Speaker 1: and now after the fact, with Tomorrow Hamlin coming back
Speaker 1: to play football. We'll talk about that coming up right
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Speaker 1: Tamar Hamlin it well was announced that he was going
Speaker 1: to come back, that he was cleared medically by the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, And of course this has been one of
Speaker 1: the bigger stories, not just sports stories, but biggest stories
Speaker 1: of the year. He was came back from being dead twice, resuscitated,
Speaker 1: didn't know exactly why, how and could it happen again,
Speaker 1: And he was vague in an interview with Michael Strahan
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago when Mike asked him about what,
Speaker 1: how did this happen? It didn't want to talk about it,
Speaker 1: which added more intrigu or suspicion to this. Now it's
Speaker 1: been announced that he is cleared to come back, and
Speaker 1: here is Damar Hamlin, the Bill's safety yesterday at a
Speaker 1: press conference.
Speaker 8: Over these last few months, I've been on a journey
Speaker 8: and I've seen, you know, some of the top professionals
Speaker 8: across the country. Their answers to me were pretty much
Speaker 8: all the same. They were the same. This event was
Speaker 8: life changing, but it's not the end of my story.
Speaker 8: So I'm here to announce that I plan on making
Speaker 8: a comeback to the NFL.
Speaker 1: Then he gave us the diagnosis of what we thought
Speaker 1: it was originally.
Speaker 8: The diagnosis of pretty much what happened to me was
Speaker 8: basically komodio cordis. It's a direct blow at a specific
Speaker 8: point in your heartbeat that causes cardiac arrest and five
Speaker 8: to seven seconds later you fall out. And that's pretty
Speaker 8: much what everyone's seen. January two of this year, kommodio
Speaker 8: cordis is the leading cause of death in youth and
Speaker 8: youth a f across all sports. So that something that
Speaker 8: I personally will be taking a step in to make
Speaker 8: a change. And also with that being said, you know,
Speaker 8: all the awareness around CPR and the access to ads
Speaker 8: have been lower in that number as well.
Speaker 1: So that's DeMar Hamlin telling you what his condition was,
Speaker 1: and the day after we had doctors people in the
Speaker 1: medical community who called in to tell us that's probably
Speaker 1: what it was. The ages are four through eighteen. This
Speaker 1: is normal, and I'm going off data with research this morning,
Speaker 1: young males between four and eighteen are at the greatest risk.
Speaker 1: Vulnerability in this age group has been attributed to increased
Speaker 1: chest wall pliability, but it's unclear why there is a
Speaker 1: male designation to this. But the ages with the commodio
Speaker 1: corde cordis are four through eighteen, so it's extremely rare.
Speaker 1: And wonder what the numbers are reported cases less than
Speaker 1: thirty per year and usually it's about forty seven percent
Speaker 1: of these have to do with kids in youth sports
Speaker 1: getting hit. Now, it's not a pre existing condition, and
Speaker 1: that's what I was curious about. But you will hear
Speaker 1: the stories where a little leaguer gets hit in the
Speaker 1: chest with a baseball, and you know there have been
Speaker 1: fatalities to this, But can this happen again? What are
Speaker 1: the odds of it happening again? It's football, there's contact.
Speaker 1: But he has been cleared medically cleared by three different
Speaker 1: doctors within the Buffalo Bills organization. I'm assuming that he
Speaker 1: wants to come back and play for Buffalo. I do
Speaker 1: have the odds here. Come Back Player of the Year
Speaker 1: two weeks ago Demorrow Hamlin minus one fifty to win
Speaker 1: Comeback Player of the year yesterday minus two eighty Today
Speaker 1: Tomorrow Hamlin is minus six fifty. Yeah. Uh. In case
Speaker 1: you're wondering, Matthew Stafford is second at plus twenty five hundred.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson for comeback. What's he coming back from? What
Speaker 1: is he coming back from a bad contract discussion or negotiations?
Speaker 1: Although he was injured at the end of last year.
Speaker 1: Jimmy g is on here plus twenty five hundred. Calvin
Speaker 1: Ridley coming back from gambling?
Speaker 5: Right, Calvin back with gambling?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 5: What if he bet on his chances to win?
Speaker 1: Can he bet on himself? I would not bus but
Speaker 1: I'm betting on Wade Aaron Judge bet on himself. Why
Speaker 1: can't I bet on myself? Literally? No, figuratively, you can
Speaker 1: bet on yourself, not literally. Let's see plus twenty five hundred.
Speaker 3: Would you take the field.
Speaker 4: If Lamar if Tomort Hamlin plays, I'm taking Damar Hamlin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm taking Tomar Hamlein. We did reach
Speaker 1: out to Tomorrow Hamlin. He's not doing interviews. He just
Speaker 1: did the press conference, but Fritzie reached out to him.
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds strange. I'm more concerned for to
Speaker 1: a tongue of ioloa, because it feels like it's almost
Speaker 1: inevitable that position getting hit, that another concussion is on
Speaker 1: the way Tomorrow, Hamlin, It's like getting struck by lightning.
Speaker 1: What are the odds of that happening again? And I
Speaker 1: don't know those numbers, you know, with how he got hit,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, if you're a football player
Speaker 1: and you're playing against him, is that in your mind
Speaker 1: at all? You know, poor t Higgins. They were people
Speaker 1: blaming him when DeMar Hamlin went down with that collision.
Speaker 1: He Haggins had nothing to do with it, just the
Speaker 1: oddity of the collision, the timing of all of that.
Speaker 1: But I'm more concerned for to a tong of ioloha
Speaker 1: than I am DeMar Hamlin.
Speaker 5: Like you said, inevitable.
Speaker 1: It just feels that way. It just feels and I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is a condition, and maybe somebody
Speaker 1: in the medical community could help us if it If
Speaker 1: it happens to you once, I mean, Hamlin, tomorrow, Hamlin,
Speaker 1: you know, does it sort of open the door for
Speaker 1: maybe more of these because you have one concussion and
Speaker 1: you're more susceptible to another concussion. But I'd be curious
Speaker 1: about that, and maybe it's just a one off and
Speaker 1: maybe there is nothing to it other than you know,
Speaker 1: the statistical oddity of it. I had a couple of
Speaker 1: phone calls in here Michael in Kentucky. Hi, Mike, what's
Speaker 1: on your mind today? Hey Dan?
Speaker 7: First time, long time six six two ten. So you
Speaker 7: guys are talking about Christian Lahner and being a villain,
Speaker 7: big Kentucky fan here you're calling in ninety two, got
Speaker 7: into a tussler in the basket with the reserve, me
Speaker 7: and you Timberlake, yep, and did an actual chest stump
Speaker 7: should have been tossed. Was loudest day in the game.
Speaker 7: You guys know the risk and be abless to say
Speaker 7: he's the most hated villain in my heart forever.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Michael. A couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: we had Laightner on and I said, you know what
Speaker 1: would be a great reality show if you wore your
Speaker 1: duke uniform and drove through Kentucky and just stopped at
Speaker 1: random places, had breakfast, get gassed. Well, you know I'm
Speaker 1: saying this to Latoner would be great and he's like,
Speaker 1: uh No, I don't think so that, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't even want to go through Kentucky for the odd
Speaker 1: you know, the chance that I might have to stop
Speaker 1: to get gasoline. Josh in Washington, Hi Josh, what's on
Speaker 1: your mind?
Speaker 11: Hey? First time, long time six two, three, twenty. The
Speaker 11: biggest villain in NFL history in my opinion, highway robbery
Speaker 11: and assault Albert Handsworth hands down.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I don't think he's well known enough to be,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the the really bad guys. He
Speaker 1: had a couple of moments there then he stepped on
Speaker 1: somebody with his.
Speaker 5: Cleat entred the lineman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he his helmet off and then stepped there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was yeah, next level. Yeah.
Speaker 5: NASCAR fans are throwing in Kyle Busch. He's legendary. He's
Speaker 5: been doing it for decades.
Speaker 1: What exactly has he been doing?
Speaker 4: Kyle Busch and Kurt Busch are experts at pushing buttons
Speaker 4: of other drivers, but just wrecking them, wrecking them, talking
Speaker 4: smack afterwards, messing with the fans.
Speaker 5: The Bush Brothers know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: We'll get some more phone calls coming up. Jim Jackson
Speaker 1: on Loan NBA on TNT, he was on the call
Speaker 1: for the Draymond Green moment in Sacramento, Celtics are up
Speaker 1: two ozho in the Hawks Nixon Caps tied at a
Speaker 1: game apiece Sons and Clippers. In case you missed that,
Speaker 1: Devin Booker went off last night and hey, congratulations to
Speaker 1: Chris Paul. He got a win where Scott Foster was
Speaker 1: the official. Yeah, congratulations the curses over.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it'd been like thirteen consecutive games that he
Speaker 1: lost in Scott Foster. Does Chris Paul say anything to
Speaker 1: Scott Foster? Like you say anything? Sup? Scott? Hey Scott
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