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Speaker 1: I listened to The Black Guy Who Tips because Rod

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Speaker 1: and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of The Black Guy Who

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Speaker 2: Tells podcast. I am your host, Rod, joined us always

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Speaker 2: by my co host Karrie, and we are live on

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Speaker 2: a Saturday morning doing some podcasting Sunday morning, doing some podcasting.

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Speaker 1: And we're not alone. Okay.

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Speaker 2: We got comedian, producer, content maker, just all around good

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Speaker 2: brother and Stephen A. Smith would call him. You may

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Speaker 2: know him from Drunk Black History. You may know him

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Speaker 2: from medium popcorn niggas, spoiling movies. You may know him

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Speaker 2: from comedy outliers. It's my man, Brandon Collins. What's going on, bro?

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Speaker 3: Good morning everybody, grand rising to all those that say that,

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Speaker 3: saying instead, it's a beautiful Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you, my king. Oh man, how

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Speaker 1: you been, bro?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, man, I'm good.

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Speaker 4: I've been.

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Speaker 3: I've just been keeping my head down doing work, you know,

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Speaker 3: writing a lot when I'm not doing the day job

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Speaker 3: shit and putting together shows. I'm excited to have a

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Speaker 3: Drunk Black History popping back again. And yeah, man, just

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Speaker 3: trying to you know, make some of ham with this

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Speaker 3: writing stuff. And I've had a lot of meetings and

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Speaker 3: just trying to see what's going on.

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Speaker 2: It's wild because I feel like the strike and all

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Speaker 2: that labor movement stuff, it kind of slowed everything down,

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Speaker 2: derailed everything, and now it's like people are trying to

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Speaker 2: pick up the pieces, but we're trying to pick up

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Speaker 2: the pieces in the industry that has like trimmed a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Like it's just so much shit, just like people.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's bad that people got laid off all

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Speaker 2: that stuff too, but like also mad projects got canceled,

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Speaker 2: Mad shit didn't get renewed, Mad stuff that was.

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Speaker 3: Black centric stuff too, a lot of Like I just

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Speaker 3: sat on the Patreon yesterday actually like for media popcorn

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Speaker 3: and check out patreon dot com slash if I go

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Speaker 3: up for some dope content. I just realized weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: like before Rap Shit Season two came out, we at

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Speaker 3: Africa had done a roundtable interview with the whole creative

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Speaker 3: team and like they were talking, we were talking some

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Speaker 3: dope stuff. We never got the footage. We never got

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Speaker 3: like so they weren't even trying to promote the shit

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Speaker 3: that they already.

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Speaker 1: Have butted Dang, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just realized it I'm like, yo, they didn't

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Speaker 3: no promo for this new season. That's why I can

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Speaker 3: probably even know it's out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, And it's like a cyclical thing because

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Speaker 2: on the one hand, they don't promote stuff, and then

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Speaker 2: people don't watch it because it's not promoted, right, But

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Speaker 2: also a lot of times they don't promote shit because

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Speaker 2: they already un decided like yeah, we're not bringing this back.

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Speaker 2: And then it's like they used the ratings to be like, well, see,

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Speaker 2: nobody wanted to.

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Speaker 1: See it, you know, yep, But you know that's with

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Speaker 1: black shit.

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Speaker 2: There's really no rhyme or reason other than just whatever

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Speaker 5: I think somebody gotta like it, and if they like it,

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Speaker 5: it don't matter what the fuck the ratings are, don't

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Speaker 5: matter what nobody says, It don't matter who complains. They

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Speaker 5: were like, this is my ship and as long as

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Speaker 2: Well that's the that's the thing I learned working with

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Speaker 2: game theories. A lot of it's just not it's not

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Speaker 1: So you know, there's people that have lower ratings.

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Speaker 2: You know, like Pat mcafeel's on ESPN now and he

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Speaker 2: like it's just ratings, right, But somebody somewhere is like, no,

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Speaker 2: they go, not, these are the ratings, and you're like, huh, well,

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Speaker 2: when y'all want to cancel something, y'all never do that.

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Speaker 2: Y'all just go the ratings aren't good enough, and that's

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Speaker 2: And as you brought up, man, it's a lot of

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Speaker 1: We need to give them money. I don't know how,

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Speaker 2: Green light every show, every podcast, and then like somebody

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all those d d I, especially in entertainment, those

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Speaker 2: Just gonna kill off the black character. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, you know, it's it's funny because you know,

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Speaker 2: It was something like what if the South won the

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Speaker 2: Now I'm I'm famously not not against this. I think

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Speaker 3: For it, and okay, I didn't I didn't hear that.

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Speaker 2: Of course, not niggas ain't gonna research. They were like, well,

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Speaker 2: That's kind of how stuff works on Twitter, is like

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Speaker 2: And I went and looked up their resume because you know,

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Speaker 2: Not work for me. But yeah, I'm fascinated by those concepts.

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Speaker 2: And I know you as a person that does drunk

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Speaker 2: felt like that's what America was going through, was like

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Speaker 2: how do we stop this Confederate government from taking all

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Speaker 1: And uh, two.

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Speaker 2: More points one, love Craft Country season two was gonna

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Speaker 2: be much the same, and people were we were people

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Speaker 2: were very much more supportive of that idea just because

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Speaker 2: let's give her a season two. I know some people

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I read that and I was just like, okay,

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Speaker 3: but like you can still funk with their art, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: not everybody likes me, but they still listen to my podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and and and like people, it's always like this

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Speaker 1: Why she ain't get another chance?

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Speaker 2: Like, well, we started a campaign of hate on Twitter

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Speaker 2: third thing is there's already a lot of shows like this,

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Speaker 2: don't know why it would be off limits for black people.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I thought that show.

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Speaker 2: Got kind of like an early hate campaign on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: It was just like boycott this show, and people went

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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's really interesting because I will say, like, from

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Speaker 3: that those you know, executive suites are shaped, those black

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Speaker 3: people still have to explain these concepts and direction and

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Speaker 3: then it's like, well, I'm not going to give you

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Speaker 1: Happened with What's the show Something God's used to come on?

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Speaker 3: Like show te well American Gods. Same thing happened with

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Speaker 2: So I'm once again not advocating that this would be

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Speaker 2: I always thought D and D got kind of a

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Speaker 2: bad rap because when the books were written, the show

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Speaker 2: was good, yes, and then when the books weren't written,

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Speaker 2: the show was bad. And everybody's like, it's your fault,

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Speaker 2: of liven Material, especially especially considering they held up an

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Speaker 2: to try to give the guy time.

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Speaker 6: To write the books, hold up the actors forever.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty four and he still hasn't written those books.

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Speaker 1: I didn't plan for that. Love Caf Country.

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Speaker 2: They're like, we have the entire like script in season

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Speaker 3: Black History got messy. It's still a little messy, but

437
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Speaker 3: it's clear it's cleaning up a little bit.

438
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well tell the people what's up, man, because I

439
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 2: don't want to overstep and I'm not trying to put

440
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 2: you in a in.

441
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Speaker 3: A Yeah, for sure, it's hard to still kind of articulate.

442
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 3: But long story short, is the drug Black History that

443
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,640
Speaker 3: a lot of people are familiar with that I've either

444
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 3: attended live or like through live stream. That's gonna be continuing.

445
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be producing that as I've always had for

446
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 3: our upcoming show on Saturday, February tent it's gonna be

447
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,959
Speaker 3: guest hosted by my homie, Charles McBee, who has been

448
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 3: on Comedy Central. He's regular at the Comedy Seller. It's

449
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 3: a really funny dude from the Midwest that I fully

450
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 3: trust with this, and you might see me pop up

451
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 3: on stage for a few during that show. But we

452
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 3: got a great lineup with the Cleric andre As, hilarious

453
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 3: New York comedian who's out here just doing the work.

454
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 3: Lenea Wiles, who's an actor and also a realtor doing

455
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 3: her thing. I went to college with her, so I've

456
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 3: known her a long time. She's great. And then we

457
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Speaker 3: have a representative from the Lewis Howard Vladimir Progressive Association

458
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 3: gonna be joined to talk about Lewis's contributions to America

459
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Speaker 3: as a black man. And then we got a few

460
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 3: other surprises. It's gonna be a lot of fun, and

461
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 3: it's gonna be both in person and live stream on Saturday,

462
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 3: February tent at seven pm Eastern Standard Time at capyat

463
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Speaker 3: NYC Ticket to a bail by Drunk black History dot Com,

464
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: and then also on restarting the podcast, and that's gonna

465
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 3: be a lot of fun. It's gonna be video and

466
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Speaker 3: audio available on YouTube and all podcasts applications starting on Friday,

467
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 3: February second dropped Black History. It's gonna be hosted by

468
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 3: me and our first guest is DJ Binhamen from the

469
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 3: Four Nerds podcast. We talk about Jimmy Hendrix, which is

470
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 3: a subject's near and dear to his heart, and just

471
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: a great conversation. I'm really excited to just get this

472
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 3: ball rolling again because it's an important show. It's an

473
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,239
Speaker 3: important thing. It's bigger than me and Gordon. Whatever we

474
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 3: had going on but in regards to producing and putting

475
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 3: together a quality thing that's representative of the idea. That's

476
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: where you know, he and I talked and I'm taking

477
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Speaker 3: I'm taking in this direction. I'm going forward. I have

478
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: had a lot of outreach from different cities, so I

479
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 3: will be taking a show on the road probably later

480
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 3: this year. But yeah, to help us kick it off,

481
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: I would love to see folks in the audience, whether

482
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Speaker 3: in person or live stream on Saturday, February tenth.

483
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

484
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, man. First of all, shout out to bringing the

485
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 2: podcast back. You know, that's do I always thought it

486
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: like a great concept. You know that will work for

487
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 2: a podcast as well.

488
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 3: We did it during the pot the pandemic. That's when

489
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: like it, you know, because there's no other way to

490
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 3: do this stuff. And you know, once we were able

491
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: to get back on stage again, we were just like,

492
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 3: all right, let's just do the stage stuff and release that.

493
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: But now that I have like access to a studio,

494
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: shout out to Labarro Jones who let me use this

495
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: production studio in Long Island City, and you know, it's

496
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: it just all clicked together and I was like, this

497
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 3: makes sense to do it this way.

498
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: Going forward, and he said something about you might be

499
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: on stage, so are you not gonna host it as

500
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: as much as you were hosting it before.

501
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: So here's the interesting thing about it. After I recorded

502
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 3: my album back in September with a you know, Mike Brown,

503
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 3: I did a double header with the comedy Outliers Brand

504
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 3: and the whole thing that went down with Gordon I

505
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 3: really and Roddy You and I touched on this a

506
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 3: little bit when we talked about someone else having like

507
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 3: performance anxiety and stuff like that. That like that hit

508
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: me like hard. This for some reason, Like for me,

509
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: I kind of lost my love of like live comedy

510
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: for a little bit because all of the stuff that

511
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: went down with Drum Black History, because I was like, man,

512
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: between this and other shit, like I can't trust niggas,

513
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: I can't like stand up comics, to be honest, are

514
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: like some of the most thankless people on the planet.

515
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, why am I gonna put together this thing

516
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: like and keep fighting for this thing where stand up

517
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: comics just started making my life so difficult and this

518
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: isn't fun but it's important, Like you know, I just

519
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: really battled with myself and I didn't want to go

520
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 3: with this relaunched live show kind of with that emotion

521
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: on my face or carry it in my body language.

522
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: So I'm say, let me book someone who I trust.

523
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 3: But now as we're getting closer and closer to the

524
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: show and I'm talking more people who are incredibly excited

525
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: about it, I'm like, you know what, maybe I will.

526
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I don't want to fully

527
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 3: commit because I've just talked about now I feel that anxiety,

528
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: and I've become more open about the anxiety that I

529
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 3: feel because I want to make sure everyone has a

530
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 3: great experience, and if I feel in any way my

531
00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: anxiety or frustration or anything like that is visible on stage,

532
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 3: I don't want that to hinder the show. And anyway

533
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: I can produce my ass off, I can just be

534
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: behind the scenes for this first show. People are seeing

535
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: me on the podcast, but I don't want people to

536
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: get confused as well. So I'm still trying to figure

537
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 3: it out. But yeah, man, this fall, I barely went

538
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: on stage just because I was like, Yo, I'm not

539
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 3: feeling it. I'm not feeling the stand up comedy scene

540
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 3: right now. I'm not feeling the stand up comics in

541
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: general in it and that's why this new direction. You're

542
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: gonna see a lot of non comedic folks on the panels.

543
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 3: You're gonna see folks that do radio, gonna see experts,

544
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 3: you're gonna see economists and like just people like Saw

545
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 3: the Earth people on the show versus just stand up

546
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: comments because it doesn't always have to be a double

547
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 3: over laughing. But also like the laughter will just come

548
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: from us trying to make ourselves comfortable talking about some

549
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 3: of these really difficult complex.

550
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 2: You might you know, just to kind of give you

551
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: your flowers and sing your prices a little bit. One

552
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: And I said this on Three Guys on too, But

553
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 2: producing is artist fuck, and it's the thing we all

554
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: take for granted, right, And you almost can't blame stand

555
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: up comics to a certain extent because it's such a cutthroat,

556
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: hungry as like everyone is a mercenary in standing.

557
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 6: I don't have a union.

558
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: You might feel like there's a brotherhood or family, but

559
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, only like when someone

560
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: gets paid, that person gets paid. When someone gets stage time,

561
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: that person gets stage time. That's just kind of how

562
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: it works, and it does kind of warp people's reality

563
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: eventually to being like, look, man, I just show up,

564
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: I be me, I do my thing, y'all handle all this,

565
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: and then I leave and that's the that's the thing.

566
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: Maybe I hang out after and kick it, but the

567
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 2: general thing is like, hey, y'all are here for me,

568
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: but they don't understand that there's a lot of shit

569
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: that has to happen for people to be here for you.

570
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: They're not really here just for you. They're here for

571
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: a good time.

572
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: Someone has to assure a good time will be had,

573
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,120
Speaker 2: and Brandon is that guy.

574
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: Like behind the stage.

575
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: I was like when I went, when I got to

576
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: see it in person, behind the scenes, like the scheduling,

577
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: the making sure everybody's comfortable, the is this thing happening

578
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: with the venue? Any problem that arises. It's like, hey, Brandon,

579
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: something's going on with the drink specials. Boom, Briand's gotta

580
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: go out, talk to the bartender real quick, come back. Boom,

581
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: Hey Brandon, so and so's in the break room.

582
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: But they ain't got this.

583
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 2: Like he was handling all this shit and then about

584
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: every five to ten minutes being out there on stage

585
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: like haha, drunk, black history, y'all, what's up? I was like,

586
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: I was watching this shit, like how is he not

587
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 2: going insane?

588
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: Doing that stuff has made me well one, Like my

589
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 3: dream has always been a film be a film director,

590
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: but I cannot. Like That's why I gotta give flowers

591
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 3: to people like Michael B. Jordan, ben Affleck, like niggas

592
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: that are directing and starring in movies like because like

593
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: you see me, like I have to switch my brain

594
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 3: between producer to performer, and I've learned to get better

595
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: at that, especially with like with with comedy Outliers and

596
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Shout out to Mike Brown. But yeah,

597
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: it is is challenging, but it's also something that gives

598
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 3: me a rush. It's something that I really enjoy, you know.

599
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: Just thinking about that excites me, like that whole prospect,

600
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 3: like I you know, that's how I know like I'm

601
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: meant to do stuff like that because when I go

602
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: to my day job and I'm just working, I'm like, man,

603
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 3: it's just to get a check. But when I do

604
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 3: podcasts and when I do that stuff, I'm like, this

605
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: is this is fulfilling.

606
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: You don't seem to have the performance anxiety around the

607
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: production part, which to me is the harder part, which

608
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: like to you know, as a person that's had to

609
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: produce and do the podcast, live venues and stuff. The product,

610
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: the production shit is what stresses me out. It's like,

611
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: shout out to the podcast that have like the financial

612
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: backing and all that stuff to be like, we're going

613
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: on a tour and all that means is we're gonna

614
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: show up at the venue, sit down and talk, and

615
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: then get up and go home. Like, shout out to

616
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: y'all because like when we when we do a live show,

617
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: for those of y'all that have been we're at that

618
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: venue five six hours before anything happens.

619
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Speaker 5: We meet with sound texts. I don't think people realize this.

620
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 5: We meet with soundtext First.

621
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: Of all, hold up, we're there. Number one.

622
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: We're at the venue days before, like sometimes weeks before,

623
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: just talking to people and be like, this is what

624
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: we need, what's what's the lighting situation, what's all the rules,

625
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: all that shit y'all.

626
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 6: Need to bring do. Y'all got what we need.

627
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: Y'all got the ACA seating and stuff, because you know,

628
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: we got to make sure everybody's taking care of And

629
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: then then on the day of the show, where they're

630
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: six some hours earlier, being like and there's always some

631
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: shit wrong every fucking time. It's never just plugging and

632
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: be like just like last time you're plugging in and

633
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: it works. No, motherfuckers, something goes wrong.

634
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: Yep.

635
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: All new person, working new setup or something. There was

636
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: one show where the fucking speakers were doing feedback like

637
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: forty minutes before people were coming in the door, and

638
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: I was just like, what the fuck are we gonna do?

639
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: What the and They're just like, don't worry, We're gonna

640
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: figure it out.

641
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: Boy, Bro, did I did I ever tell you all

642
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: about our show in DC? When we booked, We booked

643
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: like this library, this like public you know space like

644
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: it was. It was very dope. It's like an art

645
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: museum and stuff like that. We got there, the manager

646
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: didn't know where the microphone chords were, He didn't know

647
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: how the system worked, he didn't know how to put

648
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: on the projector all these things that we had pre negotiated. Yo,

649
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: we had no microphones for the show. It was a

650
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: sold out show where black people getting dronk on liquor

651
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: and wine. And I had to do like the Chris

652
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: Pratt velociraptter hands at one point because it was just

653
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: getting so out of control. But we made it happen,

654
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: Like we had Reyes Waters on that show. Like we

655
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 3: made it happen, and like people enjoyed themselves because people

656
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: like came out after the park, like for the after party,

657
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: we were hanging out ship But yeah, it was like

658
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: but it was weird because no one complained about it.

659
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: It's like they expected it to be a ship show.

660
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: It was like you drunking the title drunking it, like

661
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: you kind of do cut yourself and slag you put

662
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: luck in the title. People show up like it might happen.

663
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: We'll see what comes on.

664
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: But imagine doing that show. I mean, thankfully it was

665
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: like a black box theater, so it was pretty contained,

666
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: but imagine doing that with no microphones. How much we

667
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: gotta project Like my bo is gone the next day.

668
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, don And like I said, so like

669
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: that stuff is behind the scenes, stuff that people don't

670
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: even see. Like I said, the one I was at,

671
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: they they would keep.

672
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: Going out and they'd be like, and we got a.

673
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: Very special guest for the last one coming up, blah

674
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: blah blah, but they didn't want to say the person's

675
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: name because behind it. Yeah, I'm back there behind the scenes,

676
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: and I'm watching them when they come off stage, and

677
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: Brenda's like, look, I'm texting her, but she's not texting back.

678
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I think she's gonna be here. She said

679
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: she was gonna be here, but you know, blah blah blah.

680
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: And then they're back on stage. Hey, black y'all, did

681
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: y'all enjoy your last thing to do? And of course

682
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: Sam Jay comes on like literally on time, like late,

683
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: but on time.

684
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: It was perfect timing, and it was like it was

685
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: one of those months like think the Lord because the

686
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: previous show she had said she was gonna do it,

687
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: we advertised there and then she had to literally drop

688
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: out an hour before the show. So I'm like, and

689
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 3: that's why I don't like to like always promote lineups,

690
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: because I'm like, the show's concept, this is how I

691
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: think it is produced, thest concept and marketing shit stand

692
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: up on its own. I don't want people to come

693
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: for a show just for one comic, because we learned

694
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 3: that the hard way with comedy outliers. When we did

695
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: a New York Comedy festival, we had a lot of

696
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: industry people that were like, we want comps for shit.

697
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: So Mike and I are thinking, oh shit, like people

698
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: might want to rep us because we're in the New

699
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: York Comedy Festival, real like a headlining show, right, But

700
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: then it turned out these comments people came for one

701
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: comic that we have booked on the show. So like

702
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: we had Dan Solder, we had three people leave after

703
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: Dan Solder set, we had Cipha Sounds, we had two

704
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: people leave after Cipha set, And I'm like, now we

705
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: have these empty pockets in a packed room because we

706
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: thought industry people were fucking with us, but they had

707
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: one specific agenda, and so we were like, you know what,

708
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: We're not gonna like if I can avoid it, I'm

709
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: not going to advertise lineups. Obviously, I want people who

710
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: are on the line to be able to share it

711
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: and say, oh, I'm on the Stope Show. But yeah,

712
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: I can't bank.

713
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: And that's why the thing with you know, Gordon and

714
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: the whole like going to festivals and stuff, I was like,

715
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: it's very I don't know if people on the outside

716
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: looking and understand how important it is, because when it

717
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: comes to branding, it's about the experience, as you just say,

718
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: and so it dilutes the brand if people come to

719
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: a drunk black history and it's not what they've seen

720
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: in the past, or it's sparsely attended. It makes it

721
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: look like, oh, the show doesn't have any heat, or oh,

722
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: this is just what the show is all the time.

723
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a struggle to try to make sure

724
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: everyone understands that, because if you get everyone on the

725
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: same page, it's easier. But it's hard. Like when you're

726
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: dealing with comedians, it is hard because stand up is

727
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: just so fucking like competitive and so like, man, you just.

728
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: Got to go out there. You just got to do

729
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: your thing.

730
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: And it's almost like the opposite of planning, like it's

731
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: just get up as much time as you can, and

732
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: production is the opposite of that. Production is like no, no, no, no, no.

733
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: It is better to do three shows a year that

734
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: are that are great then twelve shows a year where

735
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: like three are great and nine or not.

736
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 3: You know, That's why I never took it monthly. Gordon

737
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: always was like, can we do this monthly? Can we

738
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 3: do I'm like, no, man, this is a lot. This

739
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: is a heavy lift. And that's where like we kind

740
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 3: of have the following out because he had booke this

741
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: show without my knowledge. It was like, we can still

742
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: do it. I'm like, bro, do you know how much

743
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: work I put into this? Do you know how we

744
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: got mentioned in like Boston Globe and New York Times

745
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: all these things? Do you know why people know about

746
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: the show. It's not sexy to spend four hours posting

747
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: online ads with the same fucking information over and over

748
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: on different websites like that. Shit is not fun, But

749
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: I do it because it's the way to get the

750
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: word out, the way to get new eyeballs on what

751
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 3: you're doing. And I said this on Three Guys on

752
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: yesterday when we're all together. I blame Hannibal. Honestly, Hannibal

753
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: burst because in New York he had for those who

754
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: don't know, he had this show on Sunday nights at

755
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: Knitting Factory where he would go up and host and

756
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: he would sometimes do like thirty plus minute sets and

757
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: didn't even have great comedians on because he's Hannibal and

758
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: it's like the high to Hannibals fain right, So he

759
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: like Chappelle drop in, Davitel like he would have bangers

760
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: drop in, And so comics started thinking, Oh, I could

761
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: do my own show, be able to do as much

762
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: time as I want to have my friends on, and

763
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: people are just gonna come and stay around, like it's

764
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 3: like you're not Hannibal Buris right, and even he like

765
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: sometimes like he eventually got tired of it. So it

766
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: was a very weird message that people took from that

767
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: show and starting applying to not only stand up shows

768
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: but the other shows with gimmicks and other themes. And

769
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 3: for me, like, I've always just been about the audience experience,

770
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 3: and I have a great partner in Tatiana who's always

771
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: like I'm looking for an audience aspective and like, I

772
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: know what you're trying to do with this thing, but

773
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: it's not quite executed, right, So I suggest you do

774
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: these things. Like when I tell you she's a great partner,

775
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: like she she just sees things from a different perspective

776
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: that always helps me elevate the things that I'm putting together.

777
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: And so behind the scenes that like when I saw

778
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: her do that work in person, cause you know, like

779
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: that's the thing it would drive someone mad to have

780
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: to do that by themselves. Anyway, Oh yeah, like you

781
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: over the crazy, So right, Like he just come out

782
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: in the third acting to be a super villain fully,

783
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: but like to see her like balance it out, because

784
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: that's the thing I always say is like if you're

785
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: in a couple or whatever a partnership, two people can't

786
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: panic at the same time, like like so one person

787
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: takes day three minutes to be like god, damn it,

788
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: so and so fucking up, the other person has to

789
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, so here's what we need to do

790
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: about that.

791
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: And it was it was cool watching y'all partnership balance out.

792
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: And that, yeah, a little bit about something like and

793
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: be instead of panic.

794
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, yeah, and I'm pretty like I'm

795
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: pretty sure I saw the trade off, like like like

796
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 2: something else happening.

797
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: You're like, man, what the fuck is this? And then

798
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: she's like, all right, my turn to be calm, all right,

799
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: I'll go talk to the so and so. So Yeah,

800
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: it was that was like dope to see Carol.

801
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 5: And And it's a it's a balance because in addition

802
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 5: to the show live, you have to deal with the

803
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 5: online audiences, which we have to do what I've been

804
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 5: you too, and people fail to realize that is literally

805
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 5: a separate audience and their experience is completely different than

806
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 5: the people in this there, which means cameras have to

807
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 5: be right, sound has to be right, you have to

808
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 5: be sure shit is projecting, you know, you have to

809
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 5: be sure the chat room is running, you know, and

810
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 5: things like that, and so like that's like a whole

811
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 5: nother thing all by itself and the media that they use,

812
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 5: so like they'll be showing a video in the venue.

813
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: The people online need to see that video too, or

814
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: else it won't work for them online. And so Tatiana's

815
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: handling that shit and talking to the chat room and

816
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: then telling the audience and branding like what's happening in

817
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 2: the chat room like it's it's an amazing operation.

818
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: The witness in person as well.

819
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: And she also signals to me and this is where

820
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: the challenge was. And in retrospect, and I, you know,

821
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: maybe I'll it doesn't matter now because it's done. But

822
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: in retrospect, I should have been the producer of just

823
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: I should have just been the sole producer drove Black

824
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: History and just hired Gordon as host. And that's with

825
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: me and a lot of things that I put together

826
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: where I'm like, I should just hire this person as

827
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: my friends as the host of the show, versus saying

828
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: that they're a co producer, because I think that they

829
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: gave people the different impression of what they do and

830
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: how they contribute to the show, because you know, I

831
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 3: had a horror conversation a few car conversations with Gordon

832
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: as you can mead and saying what you do is

833
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 3: in production though what you do is I'm just have

834
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: these ideas that I want to do and I'm just

835
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: gonna do them like there's no rhyme or reason. It

836
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: doesn't really matter with the audience. Is like it like

837
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: we've had. We had so many debates just about the

838
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: pre show music, right because he just had fucking the

839
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: most hardcore male centric rap music we have we have.

840
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: Do you look at the audience? We have like seventy

841
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: percent women in the audience, right, they don't want to

842
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: hear Knugavy Buck, Like.

843
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 6: What do you do it?

844
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: Well? I also want to just say this to what

845
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: you're doing with drunk Black History. The thing I've always

846
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: loved about it and respected about it is the consideration

847
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: for the audience, because I think you understand this even

848
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: if I haven't heard you like articulated or whatever, but

849
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: or maybe you haven't. We just haven't talked about it

850
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: in fact person, but it's just the ideas. It has

851
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: to be laughing with and not at. Yeah, So you

852
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: can't have a show like this that is a show

853
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: that is like, hey, white people, come laugh at us,

854
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: talk about black history. It has to be a show

855
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: that's like black people, we are laughing together, we're learning together,

856
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: we're healing together, and we're having fun with it in

857
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: a space that anyone can come into this space, but

858
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: it is our space first and foremost, and the sensitivities

859
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: have to be served in that way because it is

860
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: so easy, especially in comedy, it is so easy to

861
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: lose the plot with race shit and the next thing

862
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: you know, you now now you're Chappelle and the Bee

863
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: com bumble Bee costume getting ready to go to Africa,

864
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: because you're like, damn what At some point I fucking

865
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: lost the plot.

866
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: It's just like white people coming to laugh and you

867
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: say the N word, and that's not the comedy that

868
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: I'm doing.

869
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: You know, well, I also want to make it a

870
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: very welcome and environment for everybody too, like I occasionally

871
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 3: because I like to play the angle of like I

872
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: don't know anything, even though I know the most probably

873
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: on stage to make it accessible for folks that are

874
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 3: especially black folks that are in the audience that legit

875
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 3: don't know what we're talking about, like Sundowntown's. I had

876
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 3: to play it up like what is this like? Because

877
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: I want the person in the back that maybe it's like, shit,

878
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: should I know what a sundowntown is?

879
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 4: Like I do?

880
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: I not fucking know? Like Lovecraft Country Green Book, That's

881
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: what that was about. To make it accessible. And I've

882
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: had brothers come up to me and say thank you

883
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: so much for being like that guy because I didn't know.

884
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: And you kind of need that number one. But then

885
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: also number two.

886
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: It puts you in a precarious position because at any

887
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: point people it's like I'm blacking in you You I

888
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 2: know Alder ship and it's like, hey.

889
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: Plus I'm used to that Michigan, but I'm used to

890
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: that ship.

891
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: But but it's like tough, you know, to navigate that

892
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: line because it's like Nigga, I wrote the seventeen pages

893
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: that you read that gave you the facts that you

894
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: are saying on stage, So like, yeah, you do a

895
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: good job and this and I think it works if

896
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: there's trust and it's funny and it's love and that's

897
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: why that that's why that dynamic works where you can

898
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 2: go up there and be like sundown towns and everybody's like, oh, Brandon.

899
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: Well I also I want to shout out to uh, well,

900
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to shout two things. One is about show

901
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: producer Yuvia Gillham, who produces Medium Pocab also does the

902
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: research for Doe Black History, because that's just a lot

903
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: and I trust her and she's the one that she's

904
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: the one that gets the research for all the people

905
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: like and the topics and stuff like that. And that's

906
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 3: why I was like to go ahead, like, bro, I

907
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 3: got like a team, like I got I got structures,

908
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: like it's not just me like putting this ship together

909
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: last minute, you know what I mean. And I want

910
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: to shout out like, you know, you're on the people

911
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: that just been rocking me for several years the different

912
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: things I've done, because those are the folks that are

913
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: in the audience certainly shows when I do things like that,

914
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: they're like, Oh, that's that's branded. That's Brandon playing like

915
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: this angle like they know that's not. Fortunately, even though

916
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: I say some crazy shit, I've been very surprised by

917
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: how many people know that I'm smart.

918
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many people.

919
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: Are like, oh, no, you're In order to like, I

920
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: think it's hard for people to to necessarily conceptualize, but

921
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 2: in order to play the buffoon, you kind of have

922
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: to be the smartest person in the room because because

923
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: a fool that is only a fool. They don't know

924
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: the line and they like they're gonna fuck up eventually.

925
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: We all know those people who are like, I'm just

926
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 2: here for that attention, and then one day they're like

927
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: and go Trump, and You're like, oh, you're just a fool.

928
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: I thought you were smart, you know, Like no, like

929
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this name. Some people are gonna get mad.

930
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: But it's like sexy Red to me is the like

931
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: epitome of the attention economy, Like and this isn't the same.

932
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 1: She has no talent or whatever.

933
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: I remember when she was making that uh that song

934
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: about the parody of a thousand miles right, and I

935
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: thought that was so brilliant, It's so funny. But then

936
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 2: she when she's saying like and black we love Trump,

937
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, you'll kind of say anything for attention.

938
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: It's I'm pregnant and I'm still making putsy songs and

939
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: you're like, cool, I is it brilliant or is it

940
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: just like I'm a provocator and that's just what I am.

941
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: That's not not if y'all like a provocateur, I love it.

942
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm not knocking y'all for loving y'all provocateur. But the

943
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: point being, there's a difference to me between like brilliance

944
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: and craft and just like I'm here for attention, and

945
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: I think navigating something as sensitive as race and black history,

946
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: you've been able to like to do that in a

947
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: way that's not just I'm here to get attention. It's

948
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: like no, no, no, no, no, we have to be

949
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: intentional with this.

950
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean when we first started it, it was

951
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: very much like it was a party kind of like

952
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 3: and we're just talking about black history. But then, you know,

953
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 3: I listened to my wife and she's like, you guys

954
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: are getting too drunk on stage, Like the guests can

955
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: get drunk, but you're getting too drunk, Like you got

956
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: to stay focused. And that was after the second show.

957
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: I was like you right, And so that's why I

958
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: started moderating very specifically so I can give the impression

959
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: that I'm getting buzzed with the person, but I'm there

960
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: for the safety net in case they like look at

961
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: me like I don't know what to do. I remember,

962
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say the comics name, but he is

963
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: kind of he was gonna be the dick to me.

964
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: And halfway through his time on stage with us, he

965
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: blinked and he sees all these black people in front

966
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: of him, and he had said some provocative shit before,

967
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: like I think if you if you've been a drug

968
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: black catcher, you saw the recorder, you know what I'm

969
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: talking about. And he looked at Be. He didn't look

970
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: at Gord. He looked at Bee like, Diggie, what I'm

971
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: I supposed to do? And that's what I was like, Well,

972
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: the wild thing about this person is they did this thing.

973
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 3: He was like oh yeah yeah, and then like he

974
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: was able to keep going. I'm like, see, like you

975
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: were talking to all that shit and now the same

976
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: of you because you know, these black people are like,

977
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: what's this crazy digga going to say? Because I'm not

978
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I like him.

979
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: Right, it's like drunk. It's like a drunken boxing style.

980
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: Right. Jackie Hand doesn't actually show up to set drunk

981
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: if you are like in those movies, the drunken boxing

982
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: comes from back, you're not drinking.

983
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: You know, So like, yeah, he's pull flake.

984
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: He exactly like if I like, I don't even know

985
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: what we're actually happen.

986
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: If Brandon got legitimately like so hammered, you couldn't do this,

987
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: like someone else needed to take over the production of

988
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: the show for the rest of the show.

989
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: I don't even want to know what that looks like.

990
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: It would be a problem.

991
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 5: I remember we did one show Think was on the

992
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 5: Virtual Show and Gordon passed.

993
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 6: I wouldn't have like a bartend or somebody in the background.

994
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 3: He had his girlfriend. It wasn't that's what he said.

995
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, but uh yeah.

996
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: So when that happened, I was like, oh, okay, one man,

997
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 2: damn Manda.

998
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: There's no way to reach him.

999
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: He's the text.

1000
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: He's he's just passed out on video while Chris Labbert's

1001
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: trying to talk. Chris is drunk too, and I'm I'm

1002
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: the window trying to like.

1003
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: Control the ship.

1004
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: People like Gordon did all this stuff and I'm like

1005
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 3: it's funny, but once it goes past, like I think,

1006
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: like the one minute mark. Then it's like, all right, now,

1007
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: this is a problem not extracting from what we're here for.

1008
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: And so those are the things that, to be honest

1009
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 3: with you, like now that I kind of have full

1010
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: control over the brand and everything like that, I feel

1011
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: I feel like I can find execute the vision that's

1012
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: all about the audience, that's all about like the people

1013
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 3: having a great experience. And I think with that, it's

1014
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: going to allow me to have a bigger platform. It's

1015
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: going to allow the show to have a bigger reach.

1016
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 3: And that's what incredibly excites me but also scares the

1017
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: fuck out of me. This is an incredibly important show.

1018
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 3: Our history is constantly being a race. We're literally watching

1019
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: governor's estates erase our history, and so this show is

1020
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: even more important than ever, but also makes it more

1021
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 3: dangerous than ever.

1022
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, y'all go on tour, like y'all might get

1023
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 2: y'all might get banned from some states, Like, yeah, y'all

1024
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: go to Florida.

1025
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: They might be like, this is woke.

1026
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: D E I c R T.

1027
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: We can't have y'all. We can't have y'all talking about

1028
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: this ship. This did it exists? What do you mean

1029
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: is this a show about happy slaves and how they

1030
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: loved it.

1031
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's why I would say, folks go to

1032
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 3: drump blackissuy dot com sign for the mailing list, because

1033
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: I did think of a I thought of an alternate

1034
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: plan for that ride, because I have had a few

1035
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 3: people reach out to me, especially in Southern states and

1036
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But it's not always the Southern states

1037
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 3: that are fucking I know. But I have a plan

1038
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 3: for how to get the word out about the show

1039
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: where it doesn't raise suspicion in marketing, I already because

1040
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 3: that's all I do is if I'm not writing or

1041
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: reading things that give research to the stuff i'm writing about,

1042
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: I'm just reading about marketing.

1043
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: That's all I do.

1044
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: Like and so that's why I'm like, I'm a different

1045
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: person when it comes to producer. I've been doing this

1046
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 3: since high school because I was trying to hold onto

1047
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 3: my popularity and I put together what I want to do.

1048
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: I want I put together as sentially SNL show in Anneburg, Michigan's.

1049
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 3: I was like, I need to stay popular. I mean

1050
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 3: this right now. And Nigga's like, don't understand. When you're

1051
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: in high school and you become like one of the

1052
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: most popular kids in the school at the being a

1053
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: fucking nobody, like the drive that you have to do

1054
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 3: whatever you can to keep that that like once and

1055
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: then I did that for producing. It was like, oh

1056
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: I love this ship, Like this is amazing. Yeah, like

1057
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: you can't you can't compete with me on.

1058
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: That and shout out to Uvia because yeah, Uvia. If

1059
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 2: Yuva would have been like a hotep of conspiracy theorist

1060
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 2: or something, who knows what kind of dr Black history

1061
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: would have been so funny we met up that quoting

1062
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 2: doctor Umar and shit, you know, well you know, first

1063
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: of all, Brandan, there no gay people in Africa. That

1064
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: is a white supremacist situation that only occurred once we

1065
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: got to America. Okay, so what is why I got

1066
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: to wear a dress? Like it's like, oh shit, this

1067
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: what is this show? Everybody's knocking out.

1068
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: You know, But yeah, to she's great. But for me,

1069
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 3: the work she does some media, popcorn, Android, black History.

1070
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: She's just such a reliable person. She reached out like

1071
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, like I'm a fan of what you do,

1072
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: Like I would love to work with Huven silk capacity

1073
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: And that's that was years ago.

1074
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: Damn, that's dope, man. We love to see it. And also,

1075
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: of course medium popcorn is still going strong. You know what,

1076
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: Like was what's that to Eddie?

1077
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 3: I guess went over to Eddie Collins.

1078
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: Now, okay, Eddie, what's the last movie you watched?

1079
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good question. Last movie I watched was

1080
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: that maherschel Ali Julia Roberts movie that's on Netflix. Watched

1081
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: last night? Yeah, we watched that last night.

1082
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: What did you think.

1083
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 3: So sam Ishmael, who like did mister Robot and stuff.

1084
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: He's kind of turning into a one trick pony. He

1085
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: wants to be David Fincher so bad.

1086
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: I think.

1087
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 3: And that script was really weird. It felt like if

1088
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: it was like almost like a play at parts. I

1089
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: don't know. There was some things that were just like

1090
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: a little off about it, Like I I'll have to

1091
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 3: really think about that movie a little bit more because

1092
00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 3: we literally ended it like I would say, nine hours ago. Yeah,

1093
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 3: it was I mean the intense the opening with the

1094
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: oil taker, that was pretty fucking intense. That was cool. Yeah,

1095
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: but I wish the whole movie had been like that

1096
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 3: versus becoming like this weird green screen, we're kind of

1097
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 3: talking at each other and like talking about all these

1098
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: different themes and hitting a little bit too on the nose.

1099
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: So it wasn't my favorite. But Maherscha Ali Man talk

1100
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 3: about a guy that has incredible presence, incredibly attractive dude

1101
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 3: and just understands the assignment no matter what he fucking does.

1102
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: He like he is the real deal, and I hope

1103
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 3: that they figure out Blade. But there's a reason why

1104
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: he's a two time Oscar winner. Yeah, there's there's absolutely

1105
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 3: reason for that.

1106
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: He's a bay.

1107
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

1108
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 4: Man.

1109
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: I watched that movie. I ended up loving it honestly.

1110
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: Okay, it was definitely weird and all that stuff, but

1111
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: it was I don't know if maybe it's the day

1112
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: I watched it or whatever, but it was just weird

1113
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: in the ways that I thought hit it.

1114
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: The themes and that that.

1115
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: We're living through right now, you know, and especially like

1116
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: this trust of each other and then the lack of

1117
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: like shared facts and shared information, and how that is

1118
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 2: a destructive to society, and how we're raising a generation

1119
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: of kids that have no choice but to be like,

1120
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: I just gotta look out for myself because you motherfuckers

1121
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: have put me in a situation where community does not exist,

1122
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: And the lesson I'm taking from this is leaving the

1123
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: world behind because you motherfuckers are crazy. So I did

1124
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: like that those games, but there's a ton of stuff

1125
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 2: in that movie that is just like wouldn't it be

1126
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: crazy if this happened?

1127
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: And that stuff is super wild.

1128
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: I know it's all based in something like in some

1129
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: rabbit hole conspiracy shit of like you know, what's a

1130
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: sound you can hear make your teeth fall out?

1131
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: But I don't.

1132
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 6: I don't.

1133
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: Character was so over the top, like like maga, Like.

1134
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't live in that world.

1135
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 2: So like when they were on certain stuff in that movie,

1136
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: I was like, what's the basis for this? And then

1137
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: like afterwards, I would see reviews and stuff where people

1138
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: are like, you know, people believe if there's gonna be

1139
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: a cyber attack, it would happen this way, and I'm like, oh,

1140
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 2: that's what that's about.

1141
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, but I mean this, this isn't really a spoiler,

1142
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 3: but when Kevin Bacon sitting on his porch while Maherscha

1143
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 3: at least kind of breaking down the car, what's going

1144
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 3: on or what he thinks is going on? And I'm

1145
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: like Kevin Bacon just two minutes ago, was like, get

1146
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 3: the fuck off my lawn, basically just got a shotgun

1147
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 3: and he's just sitting in the background hanging out. And

1148
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: Tati was like, well, why isn't he going to the

1149
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 3: place that he told them to go, the bunker. I

1150
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: was like, he's that conservative dude that's been planning for

1151
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: this his whole life. He's the white guy that's like,

1152
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: I'm having a gun in case they come from my ship.

1153
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: Now he's legit is like they're coming for my ship.

1154
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: I'm ready. Like he wants to smoke, he wants to.

1155
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: Die, he doesn't, and he to look at it like

1156
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to this manker and be saved. I

1157
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: think he looks at the shit like this house, my bunker,

1158
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: like like come on in here if y'all want to

1159
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: Like that's like he on that ship. The other thing too,

1160
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 2: was like like the deer thing, and I remember seeing

1161
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: that thing and it was creepy. But then I went

1162
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: on Twitter and they were like, bruh, it's fucking there's

1163
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 2: real life deer that are doing that ship right now

1164
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: because it's some kind of disease that is making them

1165
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: not afraid of humans anymore, right, So like that to

1166
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: me was like, oh, this movie's fucking bananas. As soon

1167
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 2: as I go on Twitter, they're like, no, that happened,

1168
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: and like it wasn't like they said, oh this here's

1169
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: a Reddit threat. I was reading news articles like, yeah,

1170
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 2: deer ran up on some people because they're no longer

1171
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: afraid of people. We think it's a disease where it's

1172
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: so like I don't know, I dug.

1173
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 6: The movie even though I'm them though, dang, I don't

1174
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 6: get afraid of me or not.

1175
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did see a video on Facebook today of

1176
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: a woman trying to feed it deer like it was

1177
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: bam me in that motherfucking head butt her, Like.

1178
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, deer can fuck you up.

1179
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: Your cop.

1180
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 3: Niggas were raised on bad me thinking that shit is Q, Like, no,

1181
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: those niggas will fuck you up.

1182
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: Ain't Brandon in that movie when like fifty Deer came out,

1183
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: I've never been so afraid about I'm like, oh, what,

1184
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 2: like seeing one deer if you're driving.

1185
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: Down the street is like, oh magical, majesty, look at

1186
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: that no car.

1187
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: We've seen it in person, We've driven down the street

1188
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: and in that neighborhood over by. Oh I don't think

1189
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: thinking that. No, you were with me, and it was like,

1190
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 2: look at that, Oh my god, a deer. You weren't, Ah,

1191
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: you weren't tripping. You haven't even seen this movie when

1192
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: it's much more scarier to see sixty deer staring at

1193
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 2: your ass looking like literally knock if you buck.

1194
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 3: And that girl was She was sixty pounds, soaking wet.

1195
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 3: She was not going. But I mean, Eddie Woodland creature, well,

1196
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 3: there's more than like a dozen, you get freaked out.

1197
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 3: I remember that boy Alex, he used to have to

1198
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 3: stand up bit about this. He was in Central Park

1199
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 3: and they saw like one squirrel, Oh that's cute. Then

1200
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 3: they saw three squirrels, like, oh this is cute, and

1201
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 3: then a bitually they realized that they're true. He was

1202
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 3: surrounded by like a dozen squirrels and he was just like,

1203
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: oh my god, because they were eating they were eating

1204
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 3: nuts and ship right, and he was like, oh no,

1205
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 3: we gotta get the fuck out of here.

1206
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, I always say, like a well, human beings

1207
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: are like the least physically intimidating creatures on the planet,

1208
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: and just like a well, angry squirrel could fuck up

1209
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: a regular person for it, Like it would be close.

1210
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying you can't beat the squirrel, but

1211
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be like this, like like it would be

1212
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: a it would take ten rounds and you would win

1213
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: by like split decision, you know what I'm saying.

1214
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: Bro, We had two possums. We had two postles on

1215
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: our back porch. The other night, I was like, what

1216
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 3: do you gonna do nothing? I'm not going out around

1217
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: the posits.

1218
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 6: Call the people who control that's their job.

1219
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: My neighbor left you.

1220
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 3: Left them alone. I'm like, I'm not calling nobody. I

1221
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: don't want no smoke.

1222
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: We're not supposed to do this.

1223
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 2: But our neighbor yesterday, for some reason, left two trash

1224
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: bags just sitting in the fucking breeze his way. And

1225
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: we have raccoons literally right behind the apartment, and if

1226
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 2: they you leave food or trash out, they will fucking

1227
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: just come up here and eat that shit. So our

1228
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: ring doorbell keeps going off all night, and I'm like,

1229
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: what the fuck is going on? I look over there

1230
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: and it's the fucking raccoon. And the raccoons are like,

1231
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 2: you know, like they come back like they'd be like, oh, yeah,

1232
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: for sure, they'll be like, Okay, nobody watching, nobody ate me,

1233
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: nobody tried to eat me. Okay, I'm gonna come back

1234
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: in five minutes and yeah, and so the ring doorbells

1235
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: goes off, and so it's like, I don't know. Right

1236
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: before I'm about to go to bed, and I turn

1237
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: on the microphone for the doorbell and I just go.

1238
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: Hey, get out of here.

1239
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: The fucking raccoon looks at the door, at the lighting

1240
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: right in the camera, like and what bitch? And you

1241
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 2: know what, I turned the mic off. I say, you right, bro,

1242
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 2: I'm not coming out there. I don't even know why

1243
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: I fucked with you like that. That decensus tis to

1244
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: the doorbell. They was like, if I don't see the

1245
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 2: door open, you ain't doing shit. So I'm not the

1246
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: way his body language was, I'm not sure if I

1247
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 2: opened the door.

1248
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: He was leaving. He was like, the fuck are you doing?

1249
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 4: You see?

1250
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: I meant dinner.

1251
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 4: Real quick.

1252
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 3: Before we move on, I do want to say about

1253
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 3: the movie that that mhersaal Ali Netflix movie. The same

1254
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 3: day we watched Apollo thirteen, and I just gotta say,

1255
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 3: Kevin Bacon might be the most underrated answer of all time.

1256
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 3: Like he's been in so many amazing things.

1257
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: It's kind of out though, it's kind of his yet

1258
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: because this motherfucker was right.

1259
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: He's it's not that he'll be in anything.

1260
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 6: Yes, Like I watched.

1261
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: I watched that ed and like credited him or whatever

1262
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: because I know he's working and good for him.

1263
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 3: But he lost all his money in the bird maidoff ship.

1264
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: Oh he started on TV. He starts the following because

1265
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: of that.

1266
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he did a movie that was so bad.

1267
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: It was a horror movie about lgbt Q. K Oh

1268
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: they them right, it was so bad, and and like

1269
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: I looked up and was like he in this like

1270
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: like like like when I saw he was in it

1271
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: in the trailer that I was like, oh, maybe it's

1272
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 2: a good movie because why would he be in it?

1273
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 1: And then like twenty minutes in it turned into like wait,

1274
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 1: why are you in this? Kevin? But you just solved

1275
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: that mystery. He lost his money, so he probably gotta

1276
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: be in it.

1277
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, like if it's like him spillbird. There's

1278
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: a few famous people that like lost the significant amount

1279
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: of money but made off damn. And then Kevin Biker

1280
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 3: had never done TV before, and then they were like

1281
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: he's doing Kevin Williams. Since the following people like he

1282
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 3: never did TV, and like he will do TV now.

1283
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 3: He don't do TV now, Just like, oh man, what did.

1284
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: You think about the Oscar nominations.

1285
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: I know the big thing is uh, Greta Gerwig and

1286
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: Margot Roby, and I feel like black people are like,

1287
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up white women, and then uh, you know,

1288
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: and then white people are like, how could they do

1289
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: this to our queens?

1290
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: So like, what are you following that?

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Speaker 3: Listen? First of all, I mean I think that you know,

1292
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 3: if you are going to nominate for Best Picture, you

1293
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: should nominated the right to that kind of put that

1294
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 3: all together. Absolutely, I think that's very That's Hollywood. Though

1295
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 3: it's there could only be one woman. There could only

1296
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: be one woman in the Best Director category, and that's

1297
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 3: what's so weird about it. But Best Actress was stacked

1298
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 3: this year. I'm surprised if Margot Robbie didn't get it,

1299
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 3: but whatever, you know, prefer that maybe whatever slot that

1300
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 3: she had given up was given taken by a Fantasia

1301
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 3: or a Tianna Taylor. Yes, I'm hoping that Lely Gladstone

1302
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: is gonna take it. But in regards to all of

1303
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: the other categories, I was very happy with American pitching,

1304
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: showing the fact that Jeffrey Wright, Sholy Kate Brown got

1305
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 3: in there, Like that's that made that made my heart swell,

1306
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 3: called me Tomingo getting nominated, Like. The only thing that

1307
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 3: really frustrated me about the snubs was Gredily not getting

1308
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 3: nominated for Past Lives. Not only was she gave a

1309
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 3: perform performance of the year in my opinion, but also

1310
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 3: she's just there's no real there's certain actresses where you're like,

1311
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: they should be on every magazine, they should be the

1312
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 3: most popular actress. You got Emastone and everything. If you've

1313
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 3: seen poor things. I've never become less attracted to an

1314
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 3: actress in a long time because of a movie. That

1315
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 3: movie may turned me off so much from Emmastone. I'm sorry,

1316
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 3: she gave a great performance, but actually no, it's not

1317
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 3: for me no more. Spider Verse, though, Spider Verse getting

1318
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: snubbed for Best Picture and Best Score is egregious. Like

1319
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 3: that that music I remember the first ten minutes across

1320
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 3: the Spider Verse, I might not only is the story incredible,

1321
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 3: the screenplays incredible, but the music just every scene was

1322
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: putting you in a vibe and they made some distinct

1323
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: sounds for every Spider Man. I'm like, how to fun?

1324
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: Did they not get nominated? It's so crazy. But for

1325
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: the most part, I'm pretty happy with very predictable. Yeah,

1326
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: I think I think that the telecast is probat gonna

1327
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: have a very low viewership because there's not gonna be

1328
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 3: many surprises. But yeah, for the most part, I'm happy,

1329
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 3: especially for the increase in diversity I saw in the noms.

1330
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 3: America for Barbie was interesting, but I'm still happy that

1331
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: she got some some burn off of that.

1332
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: Like, I'm glad she got it because her speech is

1333
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: the core of the movie to me, Like, motherfuckers were

1334
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: crying in my theater when she gave that fucking speech

1335
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: America Ferrara.

1336
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: About how hard it is to be a woman.

1337
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: Uh Like, even though, like I said, I I think

1338
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: it's weird that Margot Robie didn't get a I'm not

1339
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: saying she should have won, but I mean I saw

1340
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: people trying to downplay it like she was like the

1341
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: wrong person to play that role, but honest to god,

1342
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: it felt like she was the only person to play

1343
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: that role. I mean.

1344
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: Movie stars. Now she's a movie star.

1345
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like and it didn't feel and like it's

1346
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: one of those roles where it didn't feel like insert

1347
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: another person and it's the same movie.

1348
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: For me, it felt like, no, Margot pulled that shit off.

1349
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the same And I always think this is weird,

1350
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: but you know, this is just kind of how it

1351
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: is as a black person. But the people that are like, well,

1352
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: Aba didn't get nominated for for Selma's Like, yeah, we

1353
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: thought that was wrong, Like we're not, like we shouldn't

1354
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: be advocated for like, and I'm glad it's happened to

1355
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: someone else because it's like, no, that's bad that, Like

1356
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 2: I thought Greta should have got nominated for sure.

1357
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 5: And uh.

1358
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: And then the other thing with Lily Gladstone. And this

1359
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: is such a Hollywood thing, but it kind of feels

1360
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 2: like the you remember Barkhead Abdy from Captain Phillips.

1361
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: There's this thing that happens every year where.

1362
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: They nominate one person like this for like like Lily Glasstone.

1363
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: Uh the Koran flick uh that was in black and

1364
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: White on Netflix.

1365
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: Fuck, I can't remember the name of the flick uh,

1366
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 2: but give me, give me one second, I'm gonna put

1367
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: it in.

1368
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 3: Are you saying that she's gonna like fade into Scuria.

1369
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 3: This was apparently this was her best performance last year.

1370
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 3: Apparently she's been working for a while. And there's another

1371
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: that a lot of critics were like, she's even better

1372
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 3: in that than The Killers the Flower Move.

1373
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so this is the thing for me with

1374
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: with that kind of stuff.

1375
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: They they'll do this thing in Hollywood where they'll be like,

1376
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: this person has finally arrived. This is their star turn.

1377
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 2: Every red carpet. They love their dress, especially if they're

1378
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 2: like not like if they're like indigenous or you know,

1379
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: it's like something like oh, this person's Mexican, and they

1380
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 2: will straight up be like, look this it's finally her time.

1381
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: And as soon as the fucking award show is over,

1382
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: it's like Hollywood's phone turns off and they're like, go

1383
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: back to Mexico and work on those films because we

1384
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: ain't hiring your ass over here.

1385
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 3: Roger talked about that that's that. I think that that's honestly, like,

1386
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 3: I think that the little no one talks about it,

1387
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 3: but I think Tarachi doing all those interviews actually hurt

1388
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 3: the color purple and the award season, and no one

1389
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 3: wants to admit it because her talking about how real

1390
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 3: it is for black artists and how the studio really

1391
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 3: didn't back the movie. I think, you know, really it

1392
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,959
Speaker 3: turned people off, the critics or the guilds that would

1393
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 3: have voted for that ship. I mean, dale Brooks get nominated,

1394
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 3: but it's the sole nomination from that movie, right, And

1395
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 3: Taraji is real. She was like after you get after

1396
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 3: I got down there for Oscar, she basically was like,

1397
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 3: people thought I was a fluke, And I think that

1398
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 3: happens a lot for people in college that get nominated

1399
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 3: for these awards. People are like, oh, that's just like

1400
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 3: that one role that you got lucky with. Yeah, and

1401
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 3: she so you've you've been working towards this ship. You're

1402
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 3: just getting better and better.

1403
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: So the person I'm thinking of is her name is

1404
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: Yolitza Oparicio. She started in Roma, and I remember that

1405
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: press her was tremendous and there were people, Oh, she's

1406
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: so beautiful, and look at her dress and the way

1407
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: she's carrying her culture and her people on her back,

1408
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 2: and we're Hollywood has finally arrived at this time and

1409
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: then I go look at her IMDb. That was like

1410
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: her first movie, and then like everything after that short

1411
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: music video short, and then everything else is just like

1412
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: his spend, Like Hollywood was like, yeah, that was cool then,

1413
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: but we're not really turning. And I feel like like

1414
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: if Lily Glasstone doesn't win it, it just becomes like

1415
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: another like, well, no need to hire her ever again

1416
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: for anything, because we white people patting ourselves on the

1417
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: back just did a good job.

1418
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: So I feel like, do we get an annual person

1419
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: like that?

1420
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, I hope that's not the case. But yeah,

1421
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 3: this industry is just fucking wild. It's it's so finicky.

1422
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 3: And then they're like, why don't we have any stars?

1423
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 3: Why don't people you know, they see how much money

1424
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 3: there is to be made with people of color centric stories,

1425
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 3: yet they're reverting back to their old ways. Yea, And

1426
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 3: look at the executives. None of them those people got

1427
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 3: fired and all the stuff that happened with the strecks

1428
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 3: and stuff, but they're the ones that are big these

1429
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 3: decisions up in the industry where it's at, and it's

1430
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 3: just like it makes it crazy. It's constant gas for

1431
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 3: anyone below that level.

1432
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, right this.

1433
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 5: Then I think this has a lot to do with

1434
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 5: why a lot of people are to the point where

1435
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 5: they'll be like, I'll do my shit independent. Will it

1436
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 5: be as big, No, Will I make as much money?

1437
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 7: No?

1438
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 5: But at least it's mine, is in my control, and

1439
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 5: I can dictate in and have a say so in

1440
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 5: how it's presented, and it's going to be presented the

1441
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 5: way I want it to.

1442
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: So even independent is a luxury and a privilege at

1443
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: some point, say it's like a when in a studio

1444
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 2: system or in the Hollywood economy, it takes millions of

1445
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 2: dollars to make some of these movies, and if not millions,

1446
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: like you do low budgets, that's still sometimes hundreds of

1447
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars to do that shit, especially under the

1448
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: rules with all the unions and labor and stuff.

1449
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do it right, you got to spend

1450
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:49,479
Speaker 1: some bread.

1451
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of people that are success stories that

1452
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 2: are like, I put this whole thing on my credit card,

1453
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: But there's also got to be a ton of motherfuckers.

1454
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 2: It's just like I'm one hundred thousand dollars in debt,

1455
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: not I work and show these because that movie didn't

1456
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: work out for me. The thing you said about Taraji,

1457
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: I think is very interesting too, because like it's such

1458
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 2: a disconnect, I think between social media and the real world,

1459
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: because social media is like, yeah, girl, that's when I'm

1460
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: talking to say your truth, and it's like I'm like,

1461
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 2: I hear you.

1462
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying the truth.

1463
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: But being that it's during this press run and being

1464
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: that a lot of this is gonna be taking its

1465
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 2: grievance even if it's not really about this.

1466
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: Film, it's just gonna tak the film.

1467
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: It's just there's just no like people aren't capable of

1468
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: holding two things in their mind of like, this film

1469
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: is excellent and also Toaji p Henson is airing out

1470
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: a lifetime of grievance because I think everyone made it

1471
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 2: center on color, the color purple, which sucks because you know,

1472
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: the color purple is like, not the movie sucks, but

1473
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: it sucks that they centered it on the color purple.

1474
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: Because she was talking about not getting money on Empire

1475
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 2: and not getting a pay raise on her in her

1476
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: rate since she did Proud, which is like a twenty

1477
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: seventeen field, So she was talking about a systemic issue,

1478
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: and instead it turned into like just Oprah Hayes black

1479
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: woman or whatever. Instead like it turned into something that

1480
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:15,439
Speaker 2: wasn't even true, which is sad because she's openly talked

1481
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: about her like mental health struggles and be it dealing

1482
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: with like I don't know if it's manic depression or

1483
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: just depression, but she's talked about it openly. She's done

1484
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: mental health conferences all this stuff, and so to me,

1485
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 2: obviously not diagnosed. And I don't know this person, but

1486
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,839
Speaker 2: it came off like when she was crying in multiple interviews,

1487
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, she might be going through something.

1488
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's not. That's the thing with black artists, especially

1489
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 3: given what happened recently with the strike. You know, people

1490
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 3: had to really go through it, like you know what,

1491
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 3: I feel like people would assume, like someone like Billy

1492
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 3: Porter right as God made, he won an Emmy, he

1493
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 3: was the lead on pos all these things that Nigga

1494
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 3: had to sell his house during the strike. You know,

1495
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's this only house or whatever,

1496
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 3: but he was very public. I got self shit like

1497
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 3: to make do like people think I'm made of money.

1498
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 3: But when you're producing, if you have a production company,

1499
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 3: and you're you have people on salary with benefits and

1500
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 3: you're trying to keep people afloat during this time. That's

1501
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 3: just you're just hemorrhaging money and you can't do anything.

1502
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: And tons of artists came out and said, here's my

1503
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 2: residuals during that Remember like there were so many people

1504
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: that week, they're like household names and ever being like,

1505
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 2: so remember that season the Empire I did, I got

1506
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 2: seventy six cent and they're like, oh shit, like how

1507
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 2: are you gonna make ends meet?

1508
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think people did.

1509
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 3: Aaron Paul even say, like for breaking Ballet, their residuals

1510
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 3: are garbage. He's like, we have like the biggest show

1511
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 3: on that platform and I get nothing from that really.

1512
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, I definitely felt like, you know, I felt

1513
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 2: like something bigger was happening with Taraji there, and but yeah,

1514
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 2: it's unfortunate it did tank the run.

1515
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: I know she tried to like.

1516
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: Salvage it right before the oscars, were like, I just

1517
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 2: hope people don't take it against this film.

1518
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's too.

1519
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 3: Late, it's too late. As as that started circulating, I

1520
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 3: was like I was one of those people say good

1521
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 3: for her but then once they started seeing less promo

1522
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 3: for color Purple, I was like, oh no, and the

1523
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 3: fact that it didn't even get below the line nobs

1524
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 3: for stuff, I'm like, oh.

1525
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 2: Geez, and you got it, And like these these fucking

1526
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: award shows don't want the controversy, so like, because we've

1527
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: seen this happen to not like it's not just black shit.

1528
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 2: We've seen this happen before with movies that have like

1529
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: a controversial press run or something, or like a star

1530
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 2: that ends up doing some funck shit and all of

1531
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's just like, uh, that went from everyone's

1532
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,440
Speaker 2: gonna nominate it to zero nominations.

1533
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

1534
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: Nate Parker was a good example of this where it's

1535
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 2: just like I had all the buzz, but by the

1536
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 2: time the motherfucking like award shows came around, they were like,

1537
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: we don't want to be in a potential situation where

1538
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: this dude is taking the stage and giving some type

1539
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: of speech that we're like.

1540
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 3: Oh no, rut, Karen, have y'all seen Origin? Okay, what

1541
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 3: do you think about that? And like that whole like,

1542
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 3: you know, they were trying to do a late press

1543
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 3: around with Angelia and Jolie I think Shared did some

1544
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 3: press screens. They were trying to essentially do it to

1545
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 3: Leslie and get a ground swell campaign going for awards.

1546
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: I saw the movie. I had a screener for it

1547
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 3: for a while, and I thought I was okay, Like,

1548
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 3: if I'm being fully transparent, I think I think it

1549
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 3: was one of those movies that was trying to be

1550
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 3: deeper but probably was better served as a mini series

1551
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 3: to try to tackle the deep themes that I was

1552
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 3: trying to go through, because to me, it was a

1553
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 3: depressing two and a half hour film that really didn't

1554
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 3: I felt like I had to read the book in

1555
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 3: order to get what the movie was trying to say.

1556
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, that's just more depressing work for me.

1557
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 3: I thought it was character goes through it.

1558
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh God, Like I thought it was taxing.

1559
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: I thought it was incredibly I thought the storytelling was

1560
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: audacious though, like like, uh, they really swung that, yeah, bruh.

1561
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: Like the flashbacks, the.

1562
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 2: The like showing rather than telling of certain histories, the

1563
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: fact that you spend certain amount of time away from

1564
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: your main character, like where like when you go to

1565
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 2: India and you spend like a good twenty thirty minutes

1566
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 2: on just the history of the cast system of India.

1567
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: Like even as I was watching, I was like, some people,

1568
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: You're gonna lose some people here, but I was I

1569
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: was learning and in like and also being like, uh

1570
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,839
Speaker 2: impressed with the actor, especially from Ajnu.

1571
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the same thing as you, though.

1572
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: I came away from it like I'm not really sure

1573
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: what the like, how to even categorize this film. It's

1574
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 2: like you you almost made like a new type of

1575
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 2: film and it may be a thing that is rewarded

1576
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: in the future, but I felt it was gonna be

1577
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: either poorly understood or or penalized in the in the

1578
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: in the present for this moment because because like I

1579
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 2: haven't seen a story told like that. But at the

1580
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 2: same time, and the acting was good, and I have

1581
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 2: no knocks against the acting or the storytelling, but the

1582
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 2: way that it is executed, like you said, almost feels

1583
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 2: like it's better served as either like a documentary or

1584
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 2: a series of like a like every part of that

1585
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 2: cast that she ties to it, like like you almost

1586
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: need like an hour with like here's an hour with Germany,

1587
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 2: here's an hour with the South End, here here's a

1588
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 2: and so I couldn't make that.

1589
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I felt like you needed to go a

1590
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 3: little bit deeper into what a cast system is and

1591
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 3: how that gets applied on a global scale. The way

1592
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 3: that she the journalists positive because for me, when I

1593
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 3: see the story you know about the black head at

1594
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 3: the pool, right, like that's a story I've heard so

1595
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: much from family members and just history in general. Right,

1596
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 3: But I think for me, like my immediate visceral reaction

1597
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 3: as a black man in America is that's still racism.

1598
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not you know, this cast is. And

1599
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 3: so it's like, so then how do you get people

1600
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 3: like me to change our perspective which is and I

1601
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 3: didn't see any it just if it's like here's what

1602
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 3: you should believe now versus really showing the evidence.

1603
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: Which is that.

1604
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: Super interesting because it's like you said, it almost needs

1605
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 2: to be a mini series because what we're really advocating

1606
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 2: for is.

1607
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: A longer movie, and that movie is already long as fuck.

1608
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, like you can't, like you almost need

1609
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 2: like a class some classroom scenes of her explaining to

1610
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 2: a to an audience that I mean a group of

1611
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: students who doesn't understand her point in being like here's

1612
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: where cast is different than race.

1613
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: And then you know interspersing that throughout the film.

1614
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 3: And for people listening who are like, why is this

1615
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 3: how could be so taxing? Mind you, this movie opens

1616
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,520
Speaker 3: with a trade bar Martin reenactment.

1617
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a film. I mean,

1618
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 1: that's what Ava does. That's Ava's bag, that's her part.

1619
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 3: I remember when they had that with keifs seen but

1620
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 3: he was running.

1621
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: When they see us.

1622
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: If you've ever seen that mini series, like, oh god,

1623
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 2: she wants to tell the stories that are the hardest

1624
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: to tell. I give her all the credit for it

1625
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 2: because I never feel like it's insensitive, but it is.

1626
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 2: It is hard work, and is it is work, Like

1627
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 2: like watching her films feels like I'm quote unquote doing

1628
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: the work. And I know there's black people that avoid that.

1629
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you not to avoid. I'm not judging you,

1630
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 2: but it is that this is another one of those

1631
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: films for her. But yeah, like I said, it feels

1632
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: like the kind of thing that if other movies copied

1633
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 2: this movie, I would not be surprised because she did

1634
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 2: manage to take a type of text and turn it

1635
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,799
Speaker 2: into like a film that from.

1636
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: A from something that is not really a a like

1637
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 1: that book's not a movie, you know what I mean.

1638
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's fucked up, though, Rod, because now that

1639
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 3: you said that, you know, there's gonna be like some

1640
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 3: white that's gonna do a similar thing and get all

1641
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 3: the accolades, because I do think that the way that

1642
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 3: you know, Ava recently posted somebody Think on Instagram that

1643
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 3: was a bit like, you know, expressing her frustration and

1644
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 3: things like that, and I'm just like, I hope this

1645
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 3: hasn't hurt her ability to get funding for another movie

1646
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 3: because this movie. Also, the thing with Origin is that

1647
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 3: it felt like she was squeezing the most out of

1648
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 3: the budget she was getting. Oh yeah whatever budget. It

1649
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 3: was definitely below five mili.

1650
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but it feels expensive and epics, especially those

1651
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 2: like those scenes of the past that she puts me

1652
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 2: like set pieces and shit, like I mean, I mean,

1653
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure they probably went to Germany to film some

1654
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,560
Speaker 2: of that shit. But like there's moments visually in this

1655
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: film that really did floor me, Like when she's standing

1656
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: on top of that thing in Germany and they knew

1657
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 2: the they go underneath and then pan up through the

1658
01:16:55,040 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 2: street and I'm just like fuck that, Like, yeah, yeah tough,

1659
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 2: even like in India, the amusing the oil to like

1660
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 2: keep themselves from the filth of cleaning that ship and

1661
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 2: so like, yeah, it's a very powerful film to me.

1662
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 2: But also like it's a it's like half documentary half

1663
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: film half like it's a lot of it's being a

1664
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 2: lot and I knew it was gonna probably take a

1665
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,440
Speaker 2: hit for being a lot of different things to people.

1666
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: But but yeah I did.

1667
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: But she's another person whose work I enjoyed because I

1668
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: think she has great intention in her execution. And it's

1669
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 2: never porn, you know what I mean, there's trauma porn.

1670
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,520
Speaker 2: She doesn't do that shits.

1671
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 3: It definitely feel like that. It just was very true,

1672
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 3: like you said, it's it's real, and she doesn't pull

1673
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 3: back from people that go through arrowing life experiences like

1674
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 3: between when they see us and then that you know,

1675
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 3: and some also but in this movie, Andrew Elsi's journalist

1676
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 3: character has a lot of loss and we see them

1677
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 3: throughout the two and a half hours.

1678
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 2: You're just like, bruh, I went and looked that shit

1679
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: up after the film because I'm like, was this a

1680
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 2: like we need to give Angia new ellis like, so

1681
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 2: she can get the best actress. Now we gotta give

1682
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 2: her a lot of dramatic scenes. And now I went

1683
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 2: and looked at us. I was like, oh no, that

1684
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 2: happened for real to Isabelle Wilkerson. And it also immediately

1685
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: made me think of the told writing that book must

1686
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 2: have taken on her and all the shit she went through,

1687
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 2: Like I honestly, it's just I don't even know how

1688
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 2: to tell you. It's just more of a like, it's

1689
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 2: unfortunate that all that shit is real, because it's all

1690
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 2: a drag, and that's what most people walking out the

1691
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: theater are gonna take with them. It's just like what

1692
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 2: a drag as opposed to like, Wow, that was some harrowing,

1693
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 2: real shit that Isabelle Wilkerson went through to give us

1694
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:44,759
Speaker 2: her thesis.

1695
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 1: But I agree with you. I still do feel like

1696
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: we needed more of an.

1697
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 2: Explanation of the thesis of why cast versus race is

1698
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 2: central to her book, and I don't think we really

1699
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: got that in the film. And also I think Chris

1700
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 2: Prime needs to watch his back because John Burenthal has

1701
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:05,560
Speaker 2: moved up the scale.

1702
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 3: That spot Chris Pine. John Barenthal and who's a who's

1703
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,560
Speaker 3: another white dude that like, especially black women are like,

1704
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 3: we love this.

1705
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: Mother John john Burnhal's white Allyship in that movie.

1706
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just in general because he did the wind

1707
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 3: River too Indigenous woman, like he's out here.

1708
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 2: Even in the Baltimore Gun like mini series, like he

1709
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 2: be doing like some woke work. I don't know if

1710
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 2: the white people are aware of it, but he But

1711
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 2: but listen this character in this film and the lift

1712
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 2: that this man went through to be a good white man,

1713
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: like his Allyship.

1714
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: Score is off the charts.

1715
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: Like I kept waiting for something to happen with his character,

1716
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 2: Like the one argument that he gets in with his wife,

1717
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: he's right like like I was waiting on it to

1718
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 2: be like, oh, they was fighting. And then because he's

1719
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: a white man, he says some book shit. The whole

1720
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 2: time I was like, nah, he telling the truth. He's

1721
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: he's been in fact, you need to listen to him. Girl.

1722
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 3: His mother in law was kind of reading him about

1723
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 3: white people. He was just sitting. He just looked at

1724
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 3: her teary like I know.

1725
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 2: Yes, when the naive first shows up and immediately tells

1726
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 2: the white he white's plain man's plains to the other

1727
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 2: white man, like, you gonna listen to this black woman. Now,

1728
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 2: you get in there and you do what she tells you,

1729
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 2: and you don't come out until it's done.

1730
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that bullshit. And then he

1731
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 1: looked at her was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Did

1732
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: I just man explain? I didn't mean to do that.

1733
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 2: I apologized. I said, this man is going on. He

1734
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 2: should have way in an oscar for something.

1735
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I thought he should have been nominated for

1736
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 3: King Richard. Honestly, I thought he was fantastic of that. Like, yeah,

1737
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 3: he's been doing it.

1738
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 2: We need we need a Best Ally Award at the

1739
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: at the na A cp UH at the Image Awards,

1740
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: and he would be listen, he'd be a shoe in

1741
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,560
Speaker 2: he might. We might name it after him after his

1742
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 2: last like five years work. We might it might be

1743
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 2: the John Burnthall White Ally Award at the Oh Man,

1744
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 2: all right, we're having a good time, but we gotta

1745
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 2: we gotta like do some news and talk some games.

1746
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: If you got just a little bit more.

1747
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 3: Time, man, yeah, man, let's right, let's do it.

1748
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 2: So first of all, oh ship, I gotta play music.

1749
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 2: Uh so I know where to put commercials later. One second,

1750
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: all right, Nicki Minaj is freaking the funk out because, Uh,

1751
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: Megan the Stallion put out a song called Hiss.

1752
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: That's a that's clearly dissing Nicki Minaj and Drake.

1753
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 6: I guess she.

1754
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 2: Right, and she has a line these holes don't be

1755
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 2: mad at Meghan. These holes mad at Meghan's Law, which

1756
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 2: refers to the US law requiring law enforcement to share

1757
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 2: information about registered sex offenders with the public. And we

1758
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 2: know Nicki Minaj is married to her husband, Kenny Kenneth Petty,

1759
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: who is a convicted sex offender. And so, uh, this

1760
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:37,480
Speaker 2: has started a complete meltdown online for Nicki like Instagram,

1761
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 2: live videos. I think she even did her like Apple

1762
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 2: Radio show. Uh. She had a line that was kind

1763
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 2: of corny about Megan getting shot in the foot. Uh.

1764
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 4: That was like.

1765
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 3: Ever since so far ghostwriting for her, her bars haven't

1766
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 3: been great.

1767
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 1: Man.

1768
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 2: I'll just say I'm liked he write mons the verse

1769
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 2: on Monster because I feel like that was her wrote that.

1770
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 3: No, that's the word. That's what I've always heard is

1771
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 3: that Uptiluh what was it? I don't remember what album,

1772
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 3: but like, you know, until they like that broke up officially,

1773
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 3: officially like he was writing a love for ship. But

1774
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 3: that's that's rum. I don't okay, I can't confirm one

1775
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 3: with Deny.

1776
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: So I'll show y'all the This is the instagram, I

1777
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 2: mean the instagram live the line she got.

1778
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 8: I guess, hey, hey, hey, hey, listen to this. Yeah, y'all,

1779
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 8: So it says bad bitch.

1780
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 1: She like six ft.

1781
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 2: I call her big foot bitch fell off. I said,

1782
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 2: get up on your good foot.

1783
01:23:54,000 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: H She shot super high and then she's running back. Played. Man,

1784
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 1: she sounds like she's kind of slurn.

1785
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 6: Even she does this sound like herself.

1786
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I've heard stuff about people saying she's on drugs.

1787
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, she.

1788
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 9: She's she's had.

1789
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. She has not been well in my assessment for

1790
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 3: a long long time. I think the whole fame thing

1791
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 3: and people constantly commenting on her appearance and the thing

1792
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 3: she's done to herself, there's just a lot of things

1793
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 3: in that, coupled with this persona that she has to carry.

1794
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,600
Speaker 3: I think it's just probably her nuts. I mean that

1795
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 3: happens to a lot of black carts.

1796
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: They go fuck, especially her coming up at first in

1797
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: the era where she was the only black rappers woman

1798
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 2: that was getting any for like props and winning out awards,

1799
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: and now there's so many talented black women rappers that

1800
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 2: are like killing the game and working together. Yeah, it's

1801
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 2: not a bunch of rivalries and they can only be

1802
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 2: and she's kind of the antithesis of that. So yeah,

1803
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: I think all that stuff is definitely contributed to that.

1804
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: And then I think the isolation she's experienced during COVID

1805
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 2: from one she didn't want to get vaccinated. Remember that

1806
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: story about my cousin's friend Nut swole up he couldn't

1807
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:18,879
Speaker 2: get married because.

1808
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 1: He got vaccinated. Yeah, but she tripled down on that

1809
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: and pushed back on everybody. I won't be bullied. Still

1810
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: has a tweet up. She even like married this guy

1811
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: who everyone's like, what the fuck are you doing? This

1812
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 1: guy's sex offender.

1813
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 2: And then she like seems almost like isolated to where

1814
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 2: it's just me and my man and the people in

1815
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: my house and we've decided that this is the line

1816
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 2: I'm fucking dying on.

1817
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's, like you said, it's been

1818
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 1: a bad look for a minute.

1819
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 3: I mean, and to that point with like you know,

1820
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 3: with her husband, situation, given that she's surrounded by famous people.

1821
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 3: No one's ever gonna want to be associated with that.

1822
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 3: No one's ever gone want to have a picture hanging

1823
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 3: out Nikki's house and dudes in the background, even like

1824
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 3: it's just not a good look. And so I'm sure

1825
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 3: everyone's managed your pr people like, hey, I know you're

1826
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 3: friends with Nikki, but right, you know that could be isolating,

1827
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,799
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, like when celebrities get canceled,

1828
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 3: like I think about you know, because I watch all

1829
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 3: the movies from back in the day, like Seth Rogun

1830
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 3: and James Franco. I'm sure it's like they still talk, probably,

1831
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 3: but it's like, yo, we can never be seen in

1832
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 3: public together, like yeah, and you know what I mean,

1833
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 3: Like we were friends for life, but I can never

1834
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 3: Like I'm sure Jonathan Major's and I could be Jordan's

1835
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 3: still talk, but he's like, yo, I can never yep

1836
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 3: out with you publicly.

1837
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 2: And she's also really delved into herself being extremely mean,

1838
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 2: her and her she's fully fallen in with her state

1839
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: her own stands, and you know that stand ship online

1840
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: is scary because those motherfuckers will support you right into

1841
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 2: the DoD damn grave like they will. They think it's

1842
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 2: a sport. It's like rooting for your favorite basketball team.

1843
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 2: So like if the basketball team is flagrant fouling people,

1844
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 2: now you on Twitter like flagrant fouls is good. And

1845
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 2: that's kind of what she's doing. She's docks people, harassed

1846
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 2: people offline, threatened people, and being in people's DMS, people

1847
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 2: that aren't even adding her, Like someone just says like, oh,

1848
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 2: I didn't like that last Nigga Naj song, and then

1849
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 2: later they're putting up a screenshot like yo, Nicki Minaj

1850
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: is in my mentions talking about beating my ass or whatever,

1851
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 2: and then she'll be like yeah, and we gonna find

1852
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 2: you in this and people are docking people. There was

1853
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 2: a person that put out a TikTok video about her

1854
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 2: white kid about her and even like how she gave

1855
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 2: a thirteen year old lap dance once on stage. And

1856
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 2: she also made a song with Little Twist called old

1857
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 2: Enough when he was only sixteen years old about you know,

1858
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 2: trying to fuck a young a dude or whatever, an

1859
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: underage dude.

1860
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 3: And but you say something similar like I don't see

1861
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 3: like he doesn't get it right.

1862
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna tell you why right, I'm gonna tell

1863
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 2: you why cause people do that out time to Drake.

1864
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 2: Drake don't act crazy at them, and that kid is

1865
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: not that white kid that made that videos now been

1866
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 2: docks and Drake would not acknowledge that. Like I'm not

1867
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: saying it would make him a better person or anything.

1868
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like if you said, what about that

1869
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 2: time you bought a girl on stage and you ain't

1870
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 2: know she was under eighteen and you and you dance

1871
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 2: with her?

1872
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: What about that shit?

1873
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 2: And then everybody's gonna I'm sure he would be like,

1874
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 2: I'm not responding like that's that's what about that? I'm

1875
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 2: not gonna strike saying to affect myself, she strikes saying

1876
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 2: affects herself all the time.

1877
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: She elevates this stuff.

1878
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 2: But it's in a way of intimidating and bullying people

1879
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 2: that I think, just like you said, it's not just

1880
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 2: even I don't want to be seen with your man,

1881
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 2: it's I can't be seen with you cause you know,

1882
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 2: I can't be seen as condoning that type of behavior

1883
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 2: online and shit. So yes, it's really sad to see

1884
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 2: like what happened with her. But she also talked about

1885
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaja's mom dying. Uh, which is which is really

1886
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,600
Speaker 2: wow because I know.

1887
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 1: What she said, what is it?

1888
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 2: I don't even know what Meghan. Yeah, Nikki talked about

1889
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 2: Megan's mom my mistake and I know there was an

1890
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 2: award show that she accepted an award and brought up

1891
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 2: like Nikki brought up like my mom think like thank

1892
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 2: God for my mom being It's like, hmm interesting And

1893
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:40,839
Speaker 2: then in this current iteration of this beef, she starts

1894
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 2: she's talking about Meghan's mom as well.

1895
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's it's fucking crazy.

1896
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 3: That's what's so scary too, is like we're watching these

1897
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 3: people that we used to like, you know, artistically, we

1898
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 3: used to be like, man, they fucking talented, They're doing

1899
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 3: the thing, and now they're so isolated and clearly going

1900
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 3: through some mental issues and the people that are around

1901
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 3: them are probably, yes, people that aren't actually encouraged them

1902
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 3: to get help and shit and just letting them dig

1903
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 3: their own grave by isolating themselves from not only their

1904
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,759
Speaker 3: you know, people in the industry, but also their closest allies.

1905
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 3: Like I think all the time about you know, Yay

1906
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,719
Speaker 3: has been publicly like I'm not mentally well for nearly

1907
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 3: a decade and people are like cool, cool, cool like,

1908
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 3: and he's openly like, I don't think my meds and

1909
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 3: people are like cool, cool, cool like, and.

1910
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 2: It's like no, like, yeah, someone is scar some of

1911
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 2: the scary shit than me. And I know it's not

1912
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 2: scary and the traditional sense of scary. And I understand

1913
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 2: if people have no empathy for Kanye, that's fine if

1914
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 2: you do, if you don't, but I still do, to

1915
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 2: be honest, and I's.

1916
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 3: Been open about it.

1917
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: He like that's the thing.

1918
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 3: Is it'ld be one thing if he kept it to

1919
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 3: himself and it wasn't like I'm bipolar and I see

1920
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 3: music and colors and all this shit like you're like, okay,

1921
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 3: clearly like his brain is just wired differently.

1922
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and laughs about it like yeah, And we know

1923
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 2: he goes off meds whenever he has an album coming out,

1924
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 2: and then his behavior is a erratic when the album

1925
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 2: comes out, and it just keeps escalating the older he gets.

1926
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 2: But the scariest videos that he ever puts out to

1927
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 2: me is not that clan hood shit or him wearing

1928
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 2: you know, a Confederate jacket or something. The shit that's

1929
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 2: scared to me is a room full of motherfuckers in

1930
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 2: there acting like this man is not crazy, Like what

1931
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 2: the fuck are y'all doing? Like yes, Jewles trying to

1932
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 2: put up a video like he I can't believe he

1933
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 2: kicked me out the studios, Like bitch, what are you

1934
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:36,560
Speaker 2: doing in the studio? This man is having a breakdown

1935
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 2: and you're just there as a hangar on to be

1936
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 2: like at least I was in the IG video. That's

1937
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 2: the scariest shit that somebody can clearly need help, and

1938
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 2: there's an industry of people that are like, nah, fuck

1939
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 2: that as long as I can get. When I watch

1940
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 2: that Kanye documentary on Netflix and they get to the

1941
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 2: third one and and he's hanging out with these white

1942
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 2: people that clearly do not know or give a fuck

1943
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 2: about anything about him, but they but they love being

1944
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 2: in a room with Kanye West, and they're sitting He's

1945
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 2: doing these crazy rants and they're sitting up there like

1946
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 2: mm hm, yup.

1947
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 1: That makes sense.

1948
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 2: And I'm like, he'll never get out of this psychosis

1949
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 2: because people have joined him in the psychosis by validating it.

1950
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: And to a certain extent, I know people don't feel

1951
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 2: this way and it's fine, we can disagree, but I

1952
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 2: think even entertaining the stuff he says as something worthy

1953
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 2: of pushback that we need to like openly like debate

1954
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 2: with him, it also validates his insanity.

1955
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,679
Speaker 1: We are still because we're treating him like, hey, man,

1956
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: you want to run for president.

1957
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 2: That's a thing we need to discuss, as opposed to

1958
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 2: being like that's a thing a crazy person is doing.

1959
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 2: And we should look at him the same way you

1960
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 2: look at someone in the streets yelling, And when I

1961
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 2: see that, I go that person needs help.

1962
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 1: I don't go I would like to debate this man.

1963
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:58,520
Speaker 3: Well, that's why what he got with Kim in the Kardashians.

1964
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying like families should be a well

1965
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 3: cook to deal with people that have mental health issues

1966
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 3: or addiction issues and stuff, but that family had a

1967
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 3: track record of not dealing with those their partners that

1968
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 3: deal with substance abuse and other issues very well. And

1969
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 3: so when I heard about Yay going off for two

1970
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 3: hours at the wedding, just talking nonsensical ship and they're

1971
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 3: just cheering him on, I'm like, Oh, this is gonna

1972
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 3: be bad. Whatever this relationship is going, it's not gonna

1973
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 3: be good for.

1974
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 2: And like a person with that much money and fame

1975
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 2: because because like to to you know, to the Kardashian's credit,

1976
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: they tried to get him help multiple times, like they

1977
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 2: were the people that got him uh in rehab.

1978
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: They were the people that got him put back into.

1979
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:43,560
Speaker 3: Like facility facilities.

1980
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: But he but he's rich and famous. He don't have

1981
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,560
Speaker 1: to do anything. And he and there are people like

1982
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 1: and I know they're yeah, they're gonna be people that

1983
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: are gonna say like, well, this one is a victim

1984
01:33:58,920 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 1: or whatever.

1985
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 2: But his new quote unquote wife, that shit to me,

1986
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna be I know people already like and I'm

1987
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:07,600
Speaker 2: sure she's gonna do it when she leaves and be

1988
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 2: like this man victimized me. I was only but like,

1989
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 2: you're willingly putting yourself in this situation, being in camera,

1990
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 2: being in every magazine to be like, yeah, dress me

1991
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 2: like a doll, even though you said that stuff about

1992
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 2: Kim k or whatever. I don't give a fuck. I

1993
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 2: just I need to be famous. I don't have any

1994
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 2: talent either. That shit scares the fuck out of me

1995
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 2: that there are people like that out there. And I'm

1996
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 2: sure she's gonna hop whenever she gets out of the here,

1997
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 2: she's gonna be like, he victimized me. And I'll give

1998
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 2: the Kardashian's credit to that too. They still never did

1999
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 2: that move which everyone said they were gonna do. They

2000
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 2: said whenever that marriage disolved, Kim was gonna be out

2001
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 2: here like this black brute attack. But she's like, that's

2002
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 2: the father of my kids, right, He's on He's on

2003
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 2: fucking Instagram threatening me her and she's on some like guys,

2004
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 2: you know he has mental health issues, so like there's

2005
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 2: a there's they're more he almost took them out of

2006
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 2: their reality TV spear to deal with some real shit.

2007
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 2: But he's he's so rich and famous. Unless he wants

2008
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 2: to deal with it, no one's gonna deal with it.

2009
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 2: And uh so, yeah, it is scary, And I think

2010
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 2: Nikki is very much aligned, not in the the bipolar thing,

2011
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 2: but aligned in the same Like I'm surrounded with people

2012
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 2: that just say yes to every fucking thing I say

2013
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 2: and do. They act like everything is cool, and then

2014
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 2: because of that, I don't have to deal with the

2015
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 2: way society sees how I'm fucked up because the people

2016
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 2: in my house don't think I'm fucked up.

2017
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 5: Karen, I agree, And also it's one of those things

2018
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:43,719
Speaker 5: to when it comes to the Kanye Kim thing, people

2019
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 5: cannot divorce the things that happened with the Kardashians from

2020
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 5: the reality of Kanye. And I think because of that,

2021
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 5: people make assumptions that we don't really know. People assume

2022
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 5: that they didn't help these people. We don't know what

2023
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 5: they did behind scenes, how they reached out like, we

2024
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 5: don't know, and these are grown as adults. You can't

2025
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 5: make people go to facilities they have money. You can't

2026
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,600
Speaker 5: make people do anything. And I think people want to

2027
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:16,759
Speaker 5: keep the illusion of the Kardashians being these hartless ass bitches,

2028
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 5: that they will do anything possible to keep that dream alive.

2029
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 6: It's not that they hadn't fucked up.

2030
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 5: It's not that you don't have the right to be mad,

2031
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 5: but at least let it be justifying reality of the

2032
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 5: actions that they did, versus you just making assumptions about

2033
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 5: shit that you don't know, right.

2034
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 3: I mean, Karen, wrap that up specifically. I think, yeah,

2035
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 3: it's just with these artists, and I think particularly with

2036
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 3: black artists, it's you know, this has become more prevalent

2037
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 3: the more people talk about their mental health struggles and

2038
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 3: stuff like that, especially in this industry, because especially as

2039
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 3: black artists, we already have imposter syndrome, we already have

2040
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 3: self doubt, we already usually have depression, other trauma and shit.

2041
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 3: That's why we're artists, you know what I mean, Like

2042
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 3: you typically don't get into creative ship because things are

2043
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 3: honky door, you know what I mean, so bad shit's happening,

2044
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 3: you know. It's it's tough to balance that with them

2045
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 3: fame within the expectations of fame within the responsibilities of

2046
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 3: like keeping people in your payroll and not knowing who

2047
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 3: to trust because money changes people, right like money. When

2048
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 3: we were in Hollywood, I was essentially doing an internship

2049
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 3: in Hollywood. Do you know how many people tati head

2050
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 3: coming out of the windword from her family that didn't

2051
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 3: understand what that, but us being by a coasting ship meant.

2052
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 3: They thought we were like in La like playing it up.

2053
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 3: We were doing how like hey can you break me off?

2054
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:36,719
Speaker 3: Some like we are paying two wrints?

2055
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 4: What are you doing?

2056
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm out here a dollard dream hoping I made it

2057
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 1: and is crying. Okay, I don't know why y'all think

2058
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 1: I got it made right.

2059
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 6: What's happening here?

2060
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 2: We got people from Billy Porter is selling his house

2061
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 2: and y'all asking me, I don't come on home man,

2062
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 2: y'all think I got The other thing, too, is like

2063
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 2: it's hard to uh, it's hard to separate the fact

2064
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 2: that the Kardashians make their mint in an exploitative fashion,

2065
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 2: which is reality TV. So then there's like a residual like, well,

2066
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 2: how could this Like you're gonna exploit this situation because

2067
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 2: it's part part of your is how you make money,

2068
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 2: it's part of your brand.

2069
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 1: But also at the same time, you obviously would resolve

2070
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:28,919
Speaker 1: this situation.

2071
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:32,759
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'd rather be in fake fights about bullsh

2072
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 2: than be like, no, he really does have mental health.

2073
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 2: We would like the illusion and we can't say cut

2074
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 2: and then just be like you want to eat dinner? No,

2075
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 2: this is really happening. And then the last thing too,

2076
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 2: is I always say this about Kanye is like, uh,

2077
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 2: Kanye is to black power the way Megan Kelly is

2078
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 2: the feminism to where like when it benefits him'll it'll

2079
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 2: come up, and so like he I remember when he

2080
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,679
Speaker 2: tried that, like you won't let a black father see

2081
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 2: his children and it's like, even though you're threatening their

2082
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 2: mother on Instagram and you want to kill Pete Davison,

2083
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the white lady on this one.

2084
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Kanye, but I think you don't have as

2085
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 1: good a point as.

2086
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 4: You believe you have.

2087
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 3: I still remember what Charlo Ben said, Yeah, he called him.

2088
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 3: He said, you're gonna have this white boy with a

2089
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 3: peats who's fucking by white boy y'all show.

2090
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, so good luck to Nicki Minaj and

2091
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But I don't I think she might

2092
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 2: be a bit beyond help at the moment.

2093
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,640
Speaker 6: Let's see something change and she gets it. But we

2094
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 6: you know, time will tell.

2095
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 2: Right, Let's let's move to another another story. You know,

2096
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 2: we got Brandon here. I want to I want to

2097
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 2: try to get in a couple more things.

2098
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 1: Let's play a little bit of fucking with black people.

2099
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 9: Okay, boom boom hoooooooooooo, with justus fucking with them people

2100
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:13,639
Speaker 9: because they ain't back with us, fucking with them people

2101
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 9: because they ain't black. Who with just hoop fucking with

2102
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:18,719
Speaker 9: them black people?

2103
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 3: With just fucking with them blacks?

2104
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 9: Wein just who fucking we fucking black people boo woo

2105
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 9: whoo oo.

2106
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: Alright, fucking with black people.

2107
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 2: Go around the globe, find different articles that make us

2108
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 2: feel fuck with in the sidepoints scores from zero to

2109
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 2: one hundred in the Rules of.

2110
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 1: Twenty five or if it makes us real mad your

2111
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:48,719
Speaker 1: cards canvas.

2112
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 2: Owens is terrified of women pilots uh and stands by

2113
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's black pilot comments.

2114
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 3: So, uh oh, that's the dude who said, like, if

2115
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 3: I see a black pilot, I'm gonna wonder if they're

2116
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:04,799
Speaker 3: actually qualified.

2117
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 1: That is correct, That is what he said. Uh, let

2118
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 1: me see if I can play it. My story hits,

2119
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: that's why.

2120
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 10: And that's why I think this United story and the

2121
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:20,640
Speaker 10: DEI story hits so hard, because we've all been in

2122
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 10: the back of a plane when the turbulence hits, or

2123
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 10: when you're flying through a storm and you're like, I'm

2124
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 10: so glad I saw the guy with the right stuff

2125
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 10: and the square jaw get into the cockpit before we

2126
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 10: took off, and I feel better now.

2127
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 11: Think I mean, like you want to go thought crime, Like,

2128
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 11: I'm sorry, if I see a black pilot, I'm gonna

2129
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:38,759
Speaker 11: be like, boy, I hope he's qualified.

2130
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 3: Well, that's you wouldn't have done that.

2131
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have done that, not an immediate no, you

2132
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 2: would not who I am, that's not what I believe.

2133
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 1: It is the reality. The last time, four white dudes hilarious.

2134
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 3: Yo, yo, that's the thing with these shows, and that

2135
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 3: Tati actually brought that up the other days. You watching

2136
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 3: a news show, three white guys on the panel talk

2137
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 3: about women issues, right, and she's like, yo, but I'm like,

2138
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 3: the producers don't even care anymore. No one cares about

2139
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 3: the optics of the.

2140
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 2: Shitty right, Oh my god, four white dudes being like no,

2141
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 2: and you're not racist at all, Like, that's not even

2142
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 2: what you really believe, right, Yes it is, and you're

2143
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 2: being like, yeah, that's what I believe. Okay, well that's

2144
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 2: cool too, Like, but but to top that off, because

2145
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:27,759
Speaker 2: that's already pretty fucked fu can fuck with us. Candice

2146
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 2: always saw that and said, oh, let's double down.

2147
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 12: Unfortunately, that is the reality of what happens when it

2148
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 12: comes to DEI, and what he is remarking on is true.

2149
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 12: I would be terrified if I got onto a plane

2150
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,600
Speaker 12: and I saw a woman flying the plane and I

2151
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,600
Speaker 12: know that we have the United CEO saying that he

2152
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 12: just wants to fulfill a quota. He just wants there

2153
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 12: to be more women, and wants them to be more

2154
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:53,600
Speaker 12: black people. And he's not concerned at first with qualifications.

2155
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 12: That is something that should alarm all of us guys. Honestly.

2156
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 3: So if I'm a black pilot, that had to be

2157
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 3: a pioneer in my industry because there's so few of us,

2158
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 3: And I finally at this job, and I'm finally at

2159
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 3: the helm of a fucking Delta seventy three, whatever the fuck,

2160
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 3: and then I gotta deal with now white passengers. And

2161
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:16,600
Speaker 3: Candice Owen's being like, is he qualified? Do you know

2162
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 3: what I went through? This should be a movie about me, right,

2163
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 3: Michael B.

2164
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 2: Jordan's right, yeah, keep out of behind, he said, black people.

2165
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 1: She took it to women.

2166
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, first of all women out there, got I

2167
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 2: want to know why they're in it because they didn't

2168
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,679
Speaker 2: they didn't say shit and about women. And then also,

2169
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 2: I can't imagine if it's a black woman pilot, She's

2170
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 2: just gonna jump out the damn side of the door, and.

2171
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:42,759
Speaker 3: Where does she think they come from? But she listenings

2172
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 3: to go with the Starbucks and be like Hey, you like, come.

2173
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 2: Over here right, like people just showing up applying for

2174
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 2: the job. I'm like, hey man, I heard y'all need

2175
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 2: black women pilots and uh. I played a few games

2176
01:43:55,320 --> 01:44:00,679
Speaker 2: of of of like Virtual Fighter and UH and plane

2177
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 2: simulator on Microsoft. Uh.

2178
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 1: Y'all, hir.

2179
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 6: Ay, maybe it's just me.

2180
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 5: I don't give fuck who's flying the plane as long

2181
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:14,560
Speaker 5: as we get there safely. I'm under the assumption that

2182
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 5: you have meant all the qualifications to get the job

2183
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 5: us she wouldn't be in up there in the first place.

2184
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 5: It's not like they let anybody just walk off the

2185
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 5: street and be like here, bitch, fly days goddamn plying

2186
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 5: you had to go through some form of training it

2187
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 5: to do this anyway, and them saying white men you

2188
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,560
Speaker 5: agree with may probably was in the comment section. And

2189
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 5: when you put your baby up online, so what are

2190
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 5: we talking about? What are you talking about.

2191
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:41,639
Speaker 1: Here, Karen?

2192
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 2: For those that don't have the background on that, Cannice

2193
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:48,599
Speaker 2: Owens had put up a picture of her biracial baby

2194
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 2: that she had with her white husband, and her own

2195
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 2: commenters were saying racist shit about her baby. Yes they were,

2196
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 2: because she covets a racist fan base. And they didn't

2197
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 2: decide to make her the accept and they're like, yo,

2198
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 2: baby is ugly and black too, because all ugly black

2199
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 2: people are ugly, and that's why we support you because

2200
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 2: you say shit like that too. Uh So, yeah, I

2201
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 2: definitely hear you on that. I personally think if we're

2202
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 2: gonna be racist about people flying planes, we should be

2203
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:17,719
Speaker 2: racist against white guys.

2204
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:18,679
Speaker 4: Yep.

2205
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean, who's most likely to have got in there

2206
01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 2: skating by on some privilege. It's not black people.

2207
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:28,640
Speaker 3: Statistically, just because they're primarily the main pilots, they're the

2208
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:29,639
Speaker 3: ones that crashed the most.

2209
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, just honestly, That's how I'm not even gonna lie.

2210
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 2: Man.

2211
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:36,559
Speaker 1: I definitely am reverse racists. Sometimes with certain shit.

2212
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:38,439
Speaker 2: I'll be like, because I know this motherfucker went through

2213
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 2: hell to get this job, you know what I mean.

2214
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 2: Like people be like, oh, like if I see if

2215
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 2: I have a black doctor, I'm like, oh, I know

2216
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 2: that motherfucker got straight a's.

2217
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 1: They're not you.

2218
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 6: He was at the top one percent of the class.

2219
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 6: The were talking about it.

2220
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 2: It was double checking his testy, let me see that again, Hey,

2221
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 2: that can't.

2222
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 6: Be right, and then actually random questions on the spot.

2223
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 1: Well, I'll be damn you really did get all the

2224
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 1: answers right.

2225
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 2: All right, well, I guess you can go ahead and

2226
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 2: make the first be the first uh intern, because we're

2227
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 2: not gonna make you a doctor right away.

2228
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

2229
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 2: That's for white folks. You get to be an intern

2230
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:14,679
Speaker 2: in the mayor room and work your way up to doctor.

2231
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:15,559
Speaker 2: That's how they do us.

2232
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: So, yeah, it is.

2233
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:19,799
Speaker 2: It is fucked up zero two, one hundred and intervals

2234
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 2: of twenty five care what would you score this.

2235
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 5: Oh Jakaris, just because it's Canda's owens and anything she

2236
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 5: says just makes my skin crawl, uh because its drys

2237
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:32,519
Speaker 5: drives her edge.

2238
01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 6: Just get out of here, ma'am.

2239
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 3: Alright, brand I'm gonna say your cards too, just because

2240
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 3: she is she is the type of person that's gonna

2241
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 3: constantly get a negative reaction from other black people around her,

2242
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:50,839
Speaker 3: and that's gonna constant reinforce these weird fucking u conservative

2243
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 3: views she has, so there's never gonna be like come

2244
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 3: to Jesus moment with her. Yeah right, And she's just

2245
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 3: gonna keep saying provocative shit like this to rile people up.

2246
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:03,600
Speaker 3: And it's just given the state of the country, right, now, like,

2247
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 3: don't be surprised next year if ship's real wild and

2248
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 3: she doesn't have the life that she used to have

2249
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 3: because things with topsy Turvy.

2250
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely give her your cars as well. She's

2251
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 2: a permanent your cars. Just she breathes, she talks is

2252
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 2: always something anti black and fucked up.

2253
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, three from all around.

2254
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 2: All right, let's do some guests the race so that

2255
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 2: we can get the full circuit with uh.

2256
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know I'm rushing through, but

2257
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that we get to

2258
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 1: do all the fun stuff with Brandona. So let's do

2259
01:47:45,960 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: some guests the race, the rice, the right, the race,

2260
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: La race.

2261
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 2: All right, guess the race time you know what it is,

2262
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 2: Go around the globe, find different articles. Guess the race

2263
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 2: of the people involved. After you know, ragging on Candice

2264
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:25,679
Speaker 2: owns now, it's our turn to be racist. Boyfriend busted

2265
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 2: for dressing and drag to take career exam for girlfriend, uh.

2266
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 4: So.

2267
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 2: A twenty six year old man named Angras Singh has

2268
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 2: been arrested after allegedly masquerading as his girlfriend so he

2269
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 2: could take an exam in her stead. Uh He tried

2270
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 2: to enter the examination hall by changing his appearance. A

2271
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:51,599
Speaker 2: police spokesman said uh Sing had been attempting to take

2272
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 2: a recruitment test for his girlfriend, Peramitt Car or perim

2273
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 2: Jit Car, thirty four at the dav Public School and

2274
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 2: caught cop Poora Punjab. Earlier this month, The Indian Express

2275
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:13,600
Speaker 2: reported Car had reportedly previously failed exam, a prerequisite to

2276
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 2: become a healthcare worker. To deceive test, this d yas shit.

2277
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 2: To deceive the testify thought on candition? Might oh your

2278
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 2: apology the test the test of the deceived test officials.

2279
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,560
Speaker 2: The undercover lover shaved his facial hair, applied makeup and

2280
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 2: got gussied up in women's clothes before entering the exam room.

2281
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 6: Don't you think somebody gonna know who she is?

2282
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 2: He even went so far as to forge his girlfriend's

2283
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 2: voter card ID card, and uh Her had hard card,

2284
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 2: which is a twelve digit unique identity number to make

2285
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:48,679
Speaker 2: the illusion iron clad.

2286
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me you want to dress up as a

2287
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 1: woman without telling me you want to dress up, because

2288
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 1: you you took this to the next level.

2289
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 2: Uh The photos depicted the human chameleon allegedly disguised as

2290
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 2: his other have as the Bible for ree University of

2291
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 2: Health Scientists and pood job.

2292
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 1: Unfortunately he failed the exam. Oh but how much?

2293
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:16,599
Speaker 4: Though?

2294
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 1: How much?

2295
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 2: You don't stocks and ship Let's see, they didn't say

2296
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 2: what the score was, but yeah, by a point or

2297
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 2: some ship you did all you spent more time dressing

2298
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 2: up and faking our ds than studying exam yourself.

2299
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 1: Exam officials reportedly.

2300
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 2: Grew suspicious after noticing that his face didn't match the

2301
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 2: picture on the application for authority. Subsequent yes, see, I

2302
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 2: don't think this was a test he took in a

2303
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:42,599
Speaker 2: class he was in care. I think it's like when

2304
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 2: you take the A C T or the S C

2305
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 2: T S A T. You show up at a facility

2306
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 2: to take this. Ok So it wasn't like, oh, no,

2307
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 2: one's gonna notice that it's not your like like your

2308
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 2: teacher that sees her every day. Okay, so yeah, so

2309
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 2: it's just like a teacher and everybody just kind of

2310
01:50:58,040 --> 01:50:59,839
Speaker 2: shows so rdy, they don't know what nobody looks.

2311
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 1: Not even a teacher. Probably was a test distributor.

2312
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 2: Authorities subsequently ran sings biometrics and discovered they didn't match

2313
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 2: the ones kept on record.

2314
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Run someone's biometrics prints?

2315
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 4: Right?

2316
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 9: What is that?

2317
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 2: The con artists was subsequently arrested for his bizarre cheating tactic.

2318
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 2: Police also accused car of conspiring with her boyfriend, as

2319
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 2: they believe he wouldn't have been able to enact to

2320
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 2: the session without her consent and possible assistance.

2321
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 1: Well, that's obvious.

2322
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 2: The couple are currently facing multiple charges, while police have

2323
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 2: since lotched in investigation into how he managed to force

2324
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 2: the documents. The police said a man can take such

2325
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 2: a risk only for his girlfriend. Uh so, all right,

2326
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 2: guess the race, Karen, what's the name again? His name

2327
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 2: is angrass Sing.

2328
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 1: I am going.

2329
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 6: Well this is a because the name sounds Asian, but

2330
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 6: you said the Indian News.

2331
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: Reported on it.

2332
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 2: Well, Indians also considered South Asia Asian.

2333
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so all right Southeast Asian? Uh brandan yep.

2334
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 3: I'm going Asian as well.

2335
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:17,560
Speaker 1: All right, the chat room goop scoop Indian. Don't know

2336
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 1: what that means?

2337
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 2: Uh?

2338
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:20,679
Speaker 1: Killers of the slum dog move.

2339
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:22,599
Speaker 3: That's that's a great one.

2340
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:23,719
Speaker 1: That's pretty damn funny.

2341
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 2: Was not in his head side to side when caught

2342
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 2: Southeast Asian Indian to see Asian an extra that got

2343
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 2: cut from the origin of cast Indian Uh a ride

2344
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 2: or Die Indian a Wan tu wang food. Thanks for everything,

2345
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:41,759
Speaker 2: Julie newmart Indian, Southeast Asian Islander uh Nan Man Sea Asian,

2346
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 2: Uh South Asian, the other Indian not lilies people, Hassan

2347
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 2: Minaj needed to see the story.

2348
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, we had no sun catching us straight. The

2349
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 1: correct answer is uh Southeast Asian. Y'all got it right.

2350
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 1: And that's him in the making. Okay, Yeah, I thought

2351
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 1: he kind of pulled it off a bit.

2352
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:09,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2353
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would not have assumed that was a dude,

2354
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 1: you know.

2355
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 6: And somebody in the chat said the biometrics, that's when

2356
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:16,960
Speaker 6: they do like I and oh.

2357
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 1: Man, I know he was nervous when they pulled out

2358
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 1: that eye skinner.

2359
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 6: I don't know if they do height and weight And

2360
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 6: I said height and weight.

2361
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 1: Fact that they had.

2362
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 3: Oh no, wait, that's her.

2363
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's her. I'm saying.

2364
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he looks like her. I'm just saying

2365
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 2: if you didn't know, yeah, and then but check out

2366
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:37,640
Speaker 2: the I D y'all. He made the fake I D

2367
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 2: with his face.

2368
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 3: I mean that's he did all the work and study.

2369
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:45,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, the work and self study.

2370
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:49,360
Speaker 2: I still say, marry him, Sis, you're not gonna find

2371
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 2: another man that loved you.

2372
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 3: Like this, at least to catch me if you can.

2373
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 3: The niggas study for the bar exam.

2374
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 1: Come on, you ain't finding two of them though.

2375
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like when, but you can't lie them

2376
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 2: eyes and them fingerprints, them don't match. My man slated

2377
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:08,599
Speaker 2: me for being too hairy and having more fuzz than him,

2378
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 2: so I gave up shaving and haven't used a raisor

2379
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:14,880
Speaker 2: in five years. A woman who hasn't shaved in five

2380
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 2: years has revealed how she dumped one of her flings

2381
01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 2: for calling her too harry. Esther klik ste Bia made

2382
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 2: the decision to stop shaving at twenty two, becoming tired

2383
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 2: of social norm stating that women have to be completely

2384
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 2: hair free. Now twenty seven years old, she is revealed

2385
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 2: that having body hair makes her feel sexier than ever.

2386
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 2: She hasn't picked up a raisor in five years, and

2387
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 2: an attempt to embrace her fuzz, but it hasn't been

2388
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 2: met warmly by all of her dates. There was one

2389
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 2: time when I was seeing this guy who did make

2390
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 2: a comment saying that he wouldn't date a girl that's

2391
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 2: harrier than him, and I thought, how odd I ended

2392
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 2: that relationship entirely because I didn't feel like that was

2393
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 2: productive or that I wanted to be with a man

2394
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 2: like that.

2395
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 1: Other than that, there have been plenty of men who

2396
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 1: have been okay with my hair.

2397
01:54:58,040 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 2: There was a guy who was really into me and

2398
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 2: I I had never told him about the fact I

2399
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 2: had chest hair.

2400
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 1: I decided to tell him because I kind of knew

2401
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 1: he was in love with me.

2402
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 2: So I thought that by telling him or showing him

2403
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 2: that I have chest hair, he would stop liking me

2404
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 2: because I didn't like him. Once I showed it to him,

2405
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 2: he still liked me. I have never experienced that before.

2406
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 2: She decided to keep her body hair because she found

2407
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 2: it was growing back thicker. Whenever she removed it, my

2408
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 2: body hair became longer, thicker, darker, and blacker. I was

2409
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 2: going crazy. If I'm supposed to remove it, why is

2410
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 2: it growing back? And that's why I like it growing

2411
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 2: bad And that's why I've been taught since I was

2412
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: a kid and now never questioned it.

2413
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 1: Because I have to remove my body hair soon because

2414
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm a woman.

2415
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 2: But then I started questioning and realizing those ideas didn't

2416
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 2: come from me, but from society. She said she got

2417
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 2: bullying in school over her body hair as a young child.

2418
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 2: People call her Chewbacca from Star Wars and Ape. There

2419
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 2: was there was a moment in school where my friends

2420
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 2: had seen their hair on my stomach. And remember they're

2421
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:02,840
Speaker 2: really exaggerated reaction. That made me feel really insecure. When

2422
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 2: I got to high school, I remember seeing so many

2423
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 2: girls getting bullied or teased because they had Harry orange

2424
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 2: and body hair.

2425
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 1: So it made me shine insecure.

2426
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't making sure I was making sure nobody could

2427
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 2: see my body hair. So she says ditching the razor

2428
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,320
Speaker 2: made her feel free and she's happier today. So guess

2429
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 2: the race of esther? What was the last man esther?

2430
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 2: Calixte be a.

2431
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 6: Okay, well they called them apes, so they got to

2432
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 6: be black.

2433
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:35,040
Speaker 1: All right, Karen's going with black? What about you?

2434
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 6: Back?

2435
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 2: Brown?

2436
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2437
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 3: I feel I feel like I should recuse myself because

2438
01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 3: I know the story. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, so

2439
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 3: I know what the races.

2440
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 2: But Latina, Razor back and front Asian couldn't be me.

2441
01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 2: Black girls showed me them Harry titties and Latina.

2442
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: It's a trick. I don't know what that race is.

2443
01:56:55,960 --> 01:57:00,320
Speaker 2: Latina, probably Mexican freea collo great grand baby, she's like Tino.

2444
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 2: The correct answer is black carring. You Gotta life, And

2445
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 2: many of you missed it, but I appreciate y'all for

2446
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 2: being honest. The boot Sound Effect simply stopped playing and

2447
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 2: went to double their music. All right, well, oo y'all,

2448
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 2: miss this is her. This is probably a dating profile pig,

2449
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 2: but this looks like when she used to shave. This

2450
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:41,040
Speaker 2: is her, like body pick, which is interesting because does

2451
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 2: she not grow hair on her face and and it's

2452
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 2: only her party that grow. Yeah, and some people do.

2453
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 6: Have that thing.

2454
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 5: Well when they cut their hair, like shave their hair,

2455
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:56,280
Speaker 5: their hair literally grows back thicker every single solitary time

2456
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:57,960
Speaker 5: and get thicker and darker, they.

2457
01:57:57,960 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 6: Get more of it.

2458
01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 2: Somebody was bringing up that on my Facebook page when

2459
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 2: I shared this. They were like, she could have like

2460
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 2: p C O S or something like, so she might

2461
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 2: need to check out, Like she could have hormonal issues

2462
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 2: that aren't related to like like get the beauty standards,

2463
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:16,160
Speaker 2: just having that much hair on your.

2464
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 6: Overgrowth.

2465
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 2: And that woman wasn't nurse, so calm the funk down, everybody.

2466
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm talking about, but she does.

2467
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the final round. Okay, right now,

2468
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 2: Caring is two for two. Well they're both kind of

2469
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 2: two for two space, So here we go. Why how

2470
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 2: can I be racist about anybody or any in my life?

2471
01:58:48,960 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 4: How call them niggas? Just call them niggas. It's boom, big.

2472
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 2: Jumping, speed chucking three hundred and sixty degree basketball.

2473
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 1: All right.

2474
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 2: A man sixty three attacked in a Florida movie theater

2475
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 2: after asking a couple attacking them.

2476
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 1: Wait, yeah, okay. A man sixty three years old, he's

2477
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 1: sixty three.

2478
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 2: He was attacking a Florida movie theater after asking a

2479
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 2: couple to move from his VP seat, says they.

2480
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:27,000
Speaker 1: Just went to town on me.

2481
01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 2: As he reveals his injuries and cops a pill for

2482
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:30,880
Speaker 2: help to find suspects.

2483
01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:34,320
Speaker 1: God, this is like they just with the talent.

2484
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 6: It's just like you wash it now you'd be like, hey,

2485
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 6: somebody sitting in my seat and do that.

2486
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 3: Gam That's my biggest fear. That's why I stopped going

2487
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,280
Speaker 3: to AMC and ship because I'm not a big dude,

2488
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 3: and niggas will always be in my seats.

2489
01:59:47,160 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 6: Oh, I go get the attendant. I'm not confronting you.

2490
01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 1: Yess their job.

2491
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:53,440
Speaker 2: I'll absolutely get an attendant bigger than me out here. Yeah,

2492
01:59:54,280 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 2: they asked what. Yeah, they getting asked what. And when

2493
01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 2: you're getting your ass with just the attendant, I'm tend

2494
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:01,200
Speaker 2: like I had nothing to do with it.

2495
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wow, that.

2496
02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 5: And they can, you know, demand you get kicked at

2497
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:07,360
Speaker 5: the theater like that? They got ship that they can

2498
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:09,120
Speaker 5: do that. I don't have, you know, I can't do

2499
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:12,320
Speaker 5: a man who was beating me.

2500
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 3: That's the old saying.

2501
02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 2: You know that man's old, he's sixty three. But also

2502
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:21,200
Speaker 2: brandon this little shit like that. That that's why we

2503
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:24,840
Speaker 2: get along because that's honestly, that's the funniest part to me,

2504
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 2: is that man saying that. A man who was beat

2505
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 2: down by still at large suspect at a Florida movie

2506
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:33,280
Speaker 2: theater last week has spoken out, revealing he sustained a

2507
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 2: broken nose during the film desault.

2508
02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 1: Not not they caught it on film, oh no.

2509
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 2: The incident happened at an amc PO Theater and Popo

2510
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:48,760
Speaker 2: and left the sixty three year old victim bloodied hospitalized

2511
02:00:48,840 --> 02:00:51,879
Speaker 2: and his stitches after he asked the much younger suspect

2512
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:54,480
Speaker 2: to move from a seat for which he paid in advance.

2513
02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, this wouldn't happen at the Alamo draft House.

2514
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 2: Footage film from a another moviegoer also shout out to

2515
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:05,600
Speaker 2: that person not helping uh, also showed the altercation in

2516
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 2: full and how the victim was then pounced on by

2517
02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:10,960
Speaker 2: the suspect and punched repeatedly while the others, including his wife,

2518
02:01:11,320 --> 02:01:12,280
Speaker 2: helplessly looked on.

2519
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 3: Oh no, he got beat up in front of his spouse. Yeah, bro,

2520
02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:19,720
Speaker 3: oh man, she probably hold a butter popcorn and oh look.

2521
02:01:20,200 --> 02:01:25,400
Speaker 2: Oh, not blood in my popcorn because she's old too, Like,

2522
02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:26,360
Speaker 2: what the fuck she doing?

2523
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:26,960
Speaker 5: Uh?

2524
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:27,360
Speaker 4: Now?

2525
02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:30,680
Speaker 2: Being used as part of a police investigation also shows

2526
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 2: how the victim at first approached his attacker in a

2527
02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:36,400
Speaker 2: civil manner and asked why he and his female companion

2528
02:01:36,440 --> 02:01:39,200
Speaker 2: were in his pre book VIP seats, but that was

2529
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:41,080
Speaker 2: instead met with a violent assault. Now.

2530
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 1: I do want to see the video because I'm like,

2531
02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 1: how you say civil? But what did you say?

2532
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:47,440
Speaker 4: Now?

2533
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:49,120
Speaker 2: Did you walk up to the movie like, get out

2534
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:50,680
Speaker 2: of my fucking seat and then you got your ass?

2535
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:53,560
Speaker 1: What did you walk over and excuse me, please, cond sir,

2536
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:54,200
Speaker 1: I want to know.

2537
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 2: Appearing in the video interview over the week, and the victim,

2538
02:01:57,160 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 2: who asked not to be named, showed off some of

2539
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:01,600
Speaker 2: the damage he sustained, dr scared and revealed himself to

2540
02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:02,720
Speaker 2: be a disabled veteran.

2541
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:07,480
Speaker 1: His assailant, meanwhile, remains at large. It happened so fast.

2542
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:11,240
Speaker 2: He basically sucker punched me to NBC Miami Friday, some

2543
02:02:11,440 --> 02:02:13,640
Speaker 2: two weeks after he and his wife purchased the tickets

2544
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:16,360
Speaker 2: for The Insidious The Red Door.

2545
02:02:16,640 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 1: So this has been a while ago.

2546
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:21,640
Speaker 3: Oh god, he got beat up for that. That was

2547
02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:23,280
Speaker 3: go be on Max like two weeks later.

2548
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:27,280
Speaker 1: Bro, just oh god, he might not had five for Max.

2549
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 6: You don't even know how to get Max. You know

2550
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:33,480
Speaker 6: that old man don't know how to stream. Here talking

2551
02:02:33,480 --> 02:02:35,400
Speaker 6: about they went to town. You know that he don't

2552
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:36,680
Speaker 6: know how to stream brand.

2553
02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:39,240
Speaker 3: And that's a PG thirteen movie. He got beat up

2554
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:41,160
Speaker 3: by some teenagers. That's what that means.

2555
02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 4: He got fucked.

2556
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:48,600
Speaker 1: He said that the movie it's so bad. He said,

2557
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:50,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't even at least he didn't have to watch

2558
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 1: the movie, so he was spared.

2559
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:55,040
Speaker 6: Didn't have to watch the movie, couldn't he had.

2560
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:55,720
Speaker 3: His own red door.

2561
02:02:56,280 --> 02:03:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is insidious. I can't even get I couldn't

2562
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:04,880
Speaker 2: even get a defensive shot in. He proceeded to recount

2563
02:03:04,920 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 2: the account, recount the attack as he remembered it, which

2564
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:09,920
Speaker 2: he said started when he and his spouse arrived at

2565
02:03:09,960 --> 02:03:11,800
Speaker 2: the theater to find a couple sitting in their seats,

2566
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:14,040
Speaker 2: speaking on the condition his face would be blurred. The

2567
02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:17,360
Speaker 2: victim described how he politely astitude to move moments before

2568
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:20,560
Speaker 2: the conversation became physical, and before another film goer whipped

2569
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 2: out a phone to record the attack. He went on

2570
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:25,360
Speaker 2: to claim that after not being received well by the man,

2571
02:03:25,720 --> 02:03:28,440
Speaker 2: he gave up on the seats and started to look elsewhere. However,

2572
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 2: he said the conflict resumed when he can when he

2573
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:33,560
Speaker 2: continued to be meme moved by the aggressor, who he

2574
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 2: recalled just kept staring his God, just kept staring at me.

2575
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:37,720
Speaker 1: Instead of getting up.

2576
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:40,000
Speaker 2: I said to the people at this point who didn't

2577
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:42,360
Speaker 2: apologize or say thank you, I said, you guys can

2578
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:43,160
Speaker 2: just keep the seat.

2579
02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:46,320
Speaker 1: Then as I'm walking away, he said, run to your wife.

2580
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:46,920
Speaker 1: Little boy.

2581
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 4: Oh no.

2582
02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:56,480
Speaker 3: Bad he if he's oh man, this old bad schoy

2583
02:03:56,600 --> 02:03:59,960
Speaker 3: to become a militant. He's gonna be a he's gonna

2584
02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:00,640
Speaker 3: be a problem.

2585
02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:05,440
Speaker 1: So, yeah, this is like the prequel to Falling Down,

2586
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:07,360
Speaker 1: that movie Michael dug.

2587
02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:10,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, this ain't gonna be good. He could be in

2588
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:11,040
Speaker 3: the news again.

2589
02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:13,760
Speaker 2: So I turned around and I said, you know, I'm

2590
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:16,200
Speaker 2: not the one who's being a little boy. You took

2591
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:18,760
Speaker 2: my seats and you didn't apologize, and you didn't say

2592
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 2: thank you, and I'll let you keep them. At this point,

2593
02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:25,280
Speaker 2: the victim said, the man became hostile. Another audience member

2594
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:28,400
Speaker 2: began recording the violence assault. The victim recalled how he

2595
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:31,480
Speaker 2: felt like a boxer backed against the rope during the

2596
02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:33,360
Speaker 2: surprise attack that ensued.

2597
02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:41,320
Speaker 3: During What's so funned about this story, though, is that

2598
02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:43,960
Speaker 3: this is gonna be being by late sixties. I've been

2599
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:45,960
Speaker 3: an old man. I just was a joyous movie, and

2600
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:48,480
Speaker 3: I would give my ass bet by some ten the time.

2601
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 2: Run to your wife, little boy who you call the

2602
02:04:54,400 --> 02:05:00,320
Speaker 2: little boy? I gave you a short king, I gave

2603
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 2: you my season. You didn't say thank you. First of all,

2604
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:08,520
Speaker 2: he took your seat. The fuck you mean you left you.

2605
02:05:08,680 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 5: Keep See That's why I said this would not be

2606
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:13,840
Speaker 5: in a conversation because This is after else before me.

2607
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:15,880
Speaker 6: Roger Glater went to the movies, walked up there and

2608
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:16,920
Speaker 6: everybody was all.

2609
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:17,560
Speaker 1: The seats was full.

2610
02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:19,560
Speaker 6: I stared at them. They stared at me.

2611
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 2: So I walked my ass down there, and the people

2612
02:05:22,160 --> 02:05:25,160
Speaker 2: came up there and made them get the fuck up. Bitch, No, gone, no,

2613
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:28,240
Speaker 2: I pay for these You should have gotten the seat bitches.

2614
02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:30,280
Speaker 1: Moved, uh, he says.

2615
02:05:30,640 --> 02:05:33,760
Speaker 2: The attack is ensued, during which he was shoved against

2616
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:36,760
Speaker 2: a railing and then hung several feet over an exit

2617
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:38,160
Speaker 2: asle he jumped up.

2618
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 1: He wanted to fight me. He backed me up. I

2619
02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:43,080
Speaker 1: fell over the stairs.

2620
02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:45,120
Speaker 2: As soon as I fell down the stairs, it was

2621
02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 2: like a box of being against the rope.

2622
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:48,400
Speaker 1: This guy would just went to town on me.

2623
02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yo, okay, so he had to say something, right,

2624
02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:56,240
Speaker 3: because that's like a that's an ass beating, Like the

2625
02:05:56,320 --> 02:06:00,680
Speaker 3: person followed you and kept whooping your ass around the theater. Yeah,

2626
02:06:02,120 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 3: fuck his wife and whoever was with him for not

2627
02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:05,600
Speaker 3: doing anything to back them.

2628
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 6: The fuck I'm gonna do get my ass knocked out too?

2629
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, cares of kars a ride. She would absolutely watch

2630
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 2: me get beat up. Oh why he getting his ass whoop?

2631
02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 2: I may my way to security. Fuck that bullshit, I know,

2632
02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:20,040
Speaker 2: but I already know. I'm on my own, and I

2633
02:06:20,120 --> 02:06:21,880
Speaker 2: hope this man do that when he walked in.

2634
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:24,000
Speaker 6: I am not right to die. I'm not that bitch,

2635
02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:25,240
Speaker 6: right uh.

2636
02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:28,040
Speaker 2: He also recalled how the man and his female companion,

2637
02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:30,400
Speaker 2: who are both seen a surveillance footage taken from the

2638
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:33,600
Speaker 2: theater but have yet to be named by police, fled

2639
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 2: the theater immediately after, and how he was completely taken

2640
02:06:36,720 --> 02:06:39,080
Speaker 2: back by the attack. I didn't think anybody would be

2641
02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:40,920
Speaker 2: stupid enough to actually start a fight like that in

2642
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:45,280
Speaker 2: the movies. Whatever, that's that's your fault. I think about

2643
02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:50,320
Speaker 2: that all the time. Maybe it's just how I was raised.

2644
02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:54,440
Speaker 2: I always think somebody could get it popping no matter

2645
02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:55,240
Speaker 2: where I'm at.

2646
02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:59,520
Speaker 5: Right, oh yeah, and asked somebody who's always a de escalator,

2647
02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:01,920
Speaker 5: like like, like, the last thing I want to do

2648
02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:03,520
Speaker 5: is have a confrontation.

2649
02:07:04,280 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 2: So in my mind, I'm like, I didn't have ship

2650
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:09,200
Speaker 2: to do with this in the first place. The fuck

2651
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm getting in this fall?

2652
02:07:10,280 --> 02:07:12,680
Speaker 1: Okay, you can stop defending yourself. We know you're a coward.

2653
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:14,440
Speaker 1: Just leave it alone. Just leave it alone.

2654
02:07:15,320 --> 02:07:19,200
Speaker 2: The audience knows it's hilarious for moving on, adding that

2655
02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:21,600
Speaker 2: he was hospitalized after the incident to treat a broken

2656
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:27,000
Speaker 2: nose or see unspecified stitches. The cops have since substantiated

2657
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:28,800
Speaker 2: his account in an official release.

2658
02:07:29,320 --> 02:07:31,440
Speaker 1: They launched a hunt for the perpetrator.

2659
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:37,240
Speaker 2: And I think that might be that the subject got

2660
02:07:37,360 --> 02:07:39,200
Speaker 2: so close to the victim that it forced him to

2661
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:41,160
Speaker 2: take a step back, ending up on the stairs in

2662
02:07:41,240 --> 02:07:43,920
Speaker 2: the isle in the theater. It's said as how the

2663
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:46,680
Speaker 2: attacker moved toward the victim. Menislin before. Oh, this is

2664
02:07:46,680 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 2: the police report in a heated moment. In the heat

2665
02:07:51,320 --> 02:07:53,440
Speaker 2: and the heated moment, the victim loses its balance and

2666
02:07:53,520 --> 02:07:55,480
Speaker 2: falls down the steps. Uh.

2667
02:07:56,960 --> 02:07:57,360
Speaker 1: Subject.

2668
02:07:58,160 --> 02:08:00,720
Speaker 2: The subject is then seen standing above sixty three year

2669
02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 2: old victim before repeatedly punching him in the face until

2670
02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 2: witnesses rushed to the victims eight and pulled them off.

2671
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:08,240
Speaker 2: The subject and the adult female went on to leave

2672
02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:12,440
Speaker 2: the theater immediately after. So, man, they didn't even get

2673
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:14,760
Speaker 2: to see the nobody's seen the movie. So it kind

2674
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:16,440
Speaker 2: of worked out for everybody that they didn't get to

2675
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:18,560
Speaker 2: see the movie. I mean, at least that's the good part.

2676
02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:23,760
Speaker 2: So guess the race I have the race of everybody here,

2677
02:08:24,280 --> 02:08:27,120
Speaker 2: but guess the race of the man who got punched.

2678
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:28,080
Speaker 1: Karen.

2679
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:31,800
Speaker 2: Everybody's white, Karen says, everybody's white. All right, what about you, Brandon?

2680
02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with James Cronwell white because anyone of

2681
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 3: us going to see the incitious red door above the

2682
02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:43,000
Speaker 3: age of twenty is an old white dude.

2683
02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:47,120
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh got let's see, got went to town on

2684
02:08:47,240 --> 02:08:50,680
Speaker 2: the four kamc America's most cuckolded cold coock.

2685
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, cold cock white so white.

2686
02:08:53,520 --> 02:08:57,680
Speaker 2: Some niggas did this though, just finished yelling Jews will

2687
02:08:57,800 --> 02:08:58,520
Speaker 2: not replace us.

2688
02:08:58,560 --> 02:08:58,800
Speaker 4: White.

2689
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:02,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, only white people not embarrassed by going to

2690
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:04,000
Speaker 2: news to say how they.

2691
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:05,520
Speaker 1: Got to beat down. That's true.

2692
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:08,200
Speaker 2: They interviewed him and wrote a play by play white

2693
02:09:08,240 --> 02:09:10,320
Speaker 2: heartbreak feels good at a place like this white magic

2694
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:12,920
Speaker 2: Johnson Theater activities black white, white as fuck.

2695
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 1: Sure this wasn't in Oakland, black Well.

2696
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:30,680
Speaker 2: The correct answer is he was white, and some of

2697
02:09:30,760 --> 02:09:35,040
Speaker 2: y'all said that, Uh he was other racest y'all got

2698
02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:35,440
Speaker 2: it wrong.

2699
02:09:36,200 --> 02:09:39,120
Speaker 1: Uh he was white. But I don't have my booze

2700
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:41,680
Speaker 1: sound effect. I have to find that. Let's see if

2701
02:09:41,720 --> 02:09:43,560
Speaker 1: I can make a new one. Does this one work.

2702
02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 1: How about this.

2703
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 3: Enough? Get it yet?

2704
02:09:57,280 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 6: This was stuff?

2705
02:09:57,960 --> 02:10:01,800
Speaker 2: I'm more aggressive, motherfucker's mad. The other one slowly gets

2706
02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:04,240
Speaker 2: to this point. This one just starts off with boot so.

2707
02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:06,360
Speaker 1: They blurred his face. But this is the white man

2708
02:10:06,400 --> 02:10:11,680
Speaker 1: that got beat up. Yeah you got they went to

2709
02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:14,520
Speaker 1: town on him. Okay, he was not wrong?

2710
02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:16,360
Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

2711
02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:19,400
Speaker 2: And then we have the people that went to town,

2712
02:10:19,560 --> 02:10:22,520
Speaker 2: which Karen said, she said everybody was white, but.

2713
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:26,120
Speaker 1: This is not white. These are these are people of color.

2714
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:28,839
Speaker 1: These are de e I theater goists.

2715
02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:33,280
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, they they definitely e I. And this is

2716
02:10:33,320 --> 02:10:34,480
Speaker 6: why you go get the attendant.

2717
02:10:34,880 --> 02:10:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that old McDonald has some tickets.

2718
02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:41,840
Speaker 3: And that old white man like I got beat up

2719
02:10:41,840 --> 02:10:43,280
Speaker 3: in front of the room with the big titties.

2720
02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:47,680
Speaker 1: Right no, so not not in front of my wife

2721
02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:48,920
Speaker 1: and the big titty woman.

2722
02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:53,120
Speaker 6: Why m double woman?

2723
02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:56,360
Speaker 2: All right, last thing, we gotta talk about sword ratchetness

2724
02:10:56,760 --> 02:10:58,240
Speaker 2: and wrap the show.

2725
02:10:58,160 --> 02:11:00,760
Speaker 3: Up real quick. Can we do just go back what

2726
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:03,840
Speaker 3: we're talking to. They really with the title, because that

2727
02:11:04,040 --> 02:11:06,960
Speaker 3: means in a way, he's kind of impressed by how

2728
02:11:07,240 --> 02:11:08,320
Speaker 3: butch they beat him up.

2729
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:15,080
Speaker 2: Although this man has a low floor though, because he

2730
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:18,840
Speaker 2: said he would never expect a fight to happen in

2731
02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:22,600
Speaker 2: a movie theater, and I'm like, man, you gotta recalibrate

2732
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:27,280
Speaker 2: your societal expectations. Oh yeah, I've never been in a

2733
02:11:27,320 --> 02:11:29,720
Speaker 2: movie theater and been like, it can't get popping in here, dog,

2734
02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:30,800
Speaker 2: it's oh yeah.

2735
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:32,520
Speaker 3: Once they started doing a sign seating, I was like,

2736
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:34,200
Speaker 3: every time I would go in the theater, I'm like,

2737
02:11:34,280 --> 02:11:35,640
Speaker 3: we might have to fight somebody.

2738
02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:40,240
Speaker 2: Right, Like, hey, I hope listen, I hope everything's okay.

2739
02:11:40,720 --> 02:11:43,320
Speaker 2: You know what I mean that Sedard the entertainer joke.

2740
02:11:43,360 --> 02:11:46,680
Speaker 2: I wish the motherfucker would be in my seat. All right,

2741
02:11:47,800 --> 02:11:51,000
Speaker 2: all right, sword ratchetess, everybody, last thing, no show tomorrow.

2742
02:11:51,080 --> 02:11:53,280
Speaker 1: By the way, we're going there, hornets game, m h.

2743
02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:17,320
Speaker 2: All right, I might be able to play the Yeah,

2744
02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:18,800
Speaker 2: I could play the news article for this one, and

2745
02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 2: let me put it on the screen for everybody.

2746
02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 1: So watch it together.

2747
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:27,440
Speaker 2: A naked man, a naked man with a sword, pleads

2748
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:32,480
Speaker 2: guilty to simple to assault charges. I assume by the

2749
02:12:32,520 --> 02:12:34,560
Speaker 2: time he played guilty, it put on some clothes though.

2750
02:12:36,200 --> 02:12:36,920
Speaker 1: That to makes sense.

2751
02:12:37,320 --> 02:12:41,120
Speaker 11: First, the Dayton Police Department released new information about the

2752
02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 11: naked man wielding a sword in an East Dayton Neighborhoud.

2753
02:12:44,960 --> 02:12:48,360
Speaker 7: This happened Tuesday on Schumann Avenue. Two police officers confronting

2754
02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:51,360
Speaker 7: that man and then shot him to the supporter. Seth

2755
02:12:51,400 --> 02:12:53,400
Speaker 7: Bird was at that news conference that wrapped up just

2756
02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:55,840
Speaker 7: a few minutes ago. Now you're just live in Dayton

2757
02:12:55,880 --> 02:12:57,200
Speaker 7: with the latest on that incident.

2758
02:12:57,320 --> 02:12:57,560
Speaker 3: Seth.

2759
02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:03,320
Speaker 13: The suspect who charged police officers from his home with

2760
02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:06,480
Speaker 13: a medieval sword has been identified as thirty four year

2761
02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:10,320
Speaker 13: old David Showalter. Officers did ask him to drop his weapon,

2762
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:13,120
Speaker 13: but instead he raised it at them. Now we're about

2763
02:13:13,120 --> 02:13:15,879
Speaker 13: to show you the confrontation with police officers and Showalter.

2764
02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:19,600
Speaker 13: These images are graphing nature, so if your discretion is advised.

2765
02:13:20,320 --> 02:13:24,440
Speaker 13: Showalter can be seen unclothed and running towards officers Joshua

2766
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:26,320
Speaker 13: Blankly and John Griffin.

2767
02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:27,600
Speaker 1: After they go out of their vehicles.

2768
02:13:27,880 --> 02:13:30,280
Speaker 13: After Showalter got closer, he points the sword at the

2769
02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:33,200
Speaker 13: officers in an aggressive manner, and the officers responded by

2770
02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:35,040
Speaker 13: shooting him in his lower body area.

2771
02:13:36,160 --> 02:13:38,080
Speaker 1: The hospital and is in a serious number one.

2772
02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:42,200
Speaker 2: Uh you know he's white because they didn't try to

2773
02:13:42,280 --> 02:13:44,720
Speaker 2: They shot him in the lower body like we don't

2774
02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:45,360
Speaker 2: want to kill him.

2775
02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:46,680
Speaker 6: Just listen to league.

2776
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's shoot him in the foot. You know they

2777
02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:51,640
Speaker 1: with us, they always just go straight for the body.

2778
02:13:51,680 --> 02:13:52,600
Speaker 1: They just dright kill us.

2779
02:13:53,680 --> 02:13:53,840
Speaker 4: Two.

2780
02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:55,960
Speaker 2: You never want to point the sword at the cops.

2781
02:13:56,280 --> 02:13:58,160
Speaker 2: You know, if you point the sword, it's like the

2782
02:13:58,240 --> 02:13:59,120
Speaker 2: same with pointing the gun.

2783
02:13:59,200 --> 02:14:03,840
Speaker 13: Basically on a shooge condition from the gunshot wounds. The

2784
02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:06,440
Speaker 13: suspect does have a history of resisting arrest and not

2785
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:09,760
Speaker 13: complying as charges will be filed by the Montgomery County

2786
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:12,800
Speaker 13: Sheriff's Office. The call was received around five pm, and

2787
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:15,680
Speaker 13: officers may contact around five oh eight pm before the

2788
02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:19,160
Speaker 13: incidant escalated. Montgomery County Sheriff's Office is handling the criminal

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Speaker 13: investigation while Date Police work in internal investigation, Date Police

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Speaker 13: Chief Cameron as Weel explains the department's policy when it

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Speaker 13: comes to lethal force.

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Speaker 11: So there's no option of not responding to the scene. Right,

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Speaker 11: you got to go because that's what that's what we're

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Speaker 11: here for. Why to protect people from harm that's been

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Speaker 11: committed by somebody else. So I think that's the standard.

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Speaker 11: And then other Senator disa Gramus Connor, is the force

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Speaker 11: hoes was reasonable or not? Was it proportional?

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Speaker 3: Was this necessary?

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Speaker 13: As also said the train they've done the last year

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Speaker 13: on time equals distance shows it's working as this incident

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Speaker 13: is really proving that live in Dayton Seth Bird at

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Speaker 13: two News.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go once. Uh, so be careful

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Speaker 1: out there.

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Speaker 2: You see a naked man running with a sword, call

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Speaker 2: the police, run the other way, and uh hopefully he

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Speaker 2: only get shot in the torso or something.

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Speaker 6: You know, I treat this man just like I treat

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Speaker 6: the movie theater people. They do mean to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all know you run away?

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Speaker 2: Uh, Brendan, tell everybody what a run to so they

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Speaker 2: can go to a theater experience where they won't have

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Speaker 2: to worry about getting someone going to town.

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Speaker 3: Yeah hopefully a damn yeah. I hoping no one can

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Speaker 3: stomped out. I mean we're not gonna be showing that

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Speaker 3: the city is red door. You gonna enjoy something.

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Speaker 2: It's funny to be like, listen, you can go to

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Speaker 2: a room full of drunk black people and you'll be safe.

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Speaker 1: You go to you go to the theater to see

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Speaker 1: in cities, yo, y'all, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean you go to AMC in general, you will so

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Speaker 3: a huge impact on this country's history as well as

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much again for having me on y'all.

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Speaker 2: No problem, man, make sure y'all do all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: We love you, bro anytime. Yeah, you're welcome to come by.

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Speaker 6: Yeah anytime, and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah man, just just continue success and I love the

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Speaker 2: Ta TI and uh yeah, like I told y'all, show notes, no,

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Speaker 2: no show tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Won't have time to do it.

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Speaker 2: We will be back throughout the week though, so until

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Speaker 2: next time, I love you, I love you too.

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Speaker 1: Wow.