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Speaker 1: I need That's the reason why we why we have

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Speaker 1: been on the show. Um. The other thing, since I'm

428
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Speaker 1: on on SOFTWAREP Radio. Uh, you know, we had some

429
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: questions about the name change from SOFTWAREP to News REP.

430
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Speaker 1: What the guys and I have been discussed discussing for

431
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: over a year is the fact that we built this

432
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: great community and following its SOFTWAREP we break a lot

433
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: of mainstream news and I think because of our name

434
00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: and how we position the SOFTWAREP brand, um, a lot

435
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: of other mainstream outlets come like literally camp out on

436
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: the site and and use a lot of the jack's work,

437
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: the guy's work to go on and kind of do

438
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: their own stories and and kind of leverage yeah and

439
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: sometimes yeah, and sometimes outright copy the work. Dude. I've

440
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: I've written one article for the site and it got

441
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: completely copied and tasted by a site in New York.

442
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to their office and bed so

443
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: it hand on and so we said, look, let's when

444
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: what we figured out when we looked at the you know,

445
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: I looked at the data and I like making data

446
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: driven decisions these days. Is that people We knew people

447
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: would come to the site, maybe find an article interesting,

448
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: but they didn't intuitively get that soft rip was a

449
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: news site. And as we kind of went, as we

450
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: grew up as a news organization and we started breaking

451
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: big stories, then the name was holding us back to

452
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Speaker 1: new audience. So the people that knew us and the

453
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: community that we built, they know what we get, they

454
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Speaker 1: know what we do, but it was whole limiting the

455
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: site's ability to reach a much more global audience. And

456
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: so we said, look, let's so when people now read

457
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: a story and find it on Google, they click on

458
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: it and they see news rep in our new tagline,

459
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna gon know right away that this is a

460
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: new site, like this is where they are, and they're

461
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: gonna save it on their browser, and they're gonna come

462
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: back as opposed to to softwarep before being Oh, you know,

463
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: some guys we get emails say, hey, do I should

464
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: I even belong here? I feel like I'm in like

465
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: a special access area of a government site or something.

466
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Speaker 1: So the purpose of it was to reach a much

467
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Speaker 1: larger global audience. Also in incorporate our community and membership

468
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Speaker 1: into uh the war Room, which is a which is

469
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: a subscriber community. UM, so have the war Room is

470
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: that community where our subscribers can interact and all the

471
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Speaker 1: SOFTWAREP loyalists can get in there, and iact with the

472
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: writers and would do weekly Q and a special stories

473
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But as an outward facing organization,

474
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, the site is going to be called news

475
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: rep for those reasons. So hopefully that addresses a lot

476
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: of people's concerns and they see the the valil validity

477
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: of it. And the one thing I'll add that the

478
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: piece that we decided to add on was and really

479
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: focus on, aside from foreign policy, domestic security, some military

480
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: stuff that's that's mainstream and important, we were adding financial

481
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: reporting based on how does global conflict affect the world

482
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Speaker 1: of finance, Like how how does this issue in Syria

483
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Speaker 1: affect a publicly traded company on the New York Stock Exchange.

484
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Speaker 1: And that's something not even the Wall Street Journal is doing.

485
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: And so I think that's going to add real value

486
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Speaker 1: to the conversation, especially to the world of finance. And

487
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm excited the most excited about that and building out

488
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: that capability, and I know the guys we're talking about,

489
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, a paid newsletter once a month that really

490
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: is focusing on that like the finance world, and also

491
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: be all to bring in guest writers like my friend

492
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: Kamal Rabican, who will talk about in a bit. Camal

493
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: writes one of the most popular UM crypto newsletters in

494
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: the country. I think it's the largest, and it's people

495
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: pay a lot of money for that newsletter. And I'm

496
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: excited to have come all kind of way in because

497
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: crypto is changing the world, like cryptocurrency UM, and that's

498
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: exciting and in ways that you know, people may be

499
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: listening to. Okay, well, yeah, what do I care about

500
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: a public traded company and how how does that affect me? Well,

501
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: it's there's other things too. It's like what's happening UM

502
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: in global finance, Like how does the UH collapse or

503
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: the you know, potential collapse of the China's economy affects

504
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: the US because look, China, China has is very economically

505
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: tied to the US. They have they own a lot

506
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: of our debt UM, They're a massive trade partner. Depending

507
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: on what data set you look, they are now the

508
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: largest global economy. You know, we were number one and

509
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: there you know, they're for all intensive purposes number one

510
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: now depending on how you read the data. But either way,

511
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: in a few years that they're going to surpass US. UM,

512
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: and so that affects you know, our economy back home

513
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: and affects job opportunity. UM. You know, I talked about

514
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: on my Instagram live last night about um this coming recession,

515
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: Like all the signs are there that we have a

516
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: recession coming. E Commerce is just destroying ground floor retail

517
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: and all major metropolitan cities. If you walk on Main

518
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: Street in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Cleveland,

519
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: you're going to see ground floor retail space is vacant

520
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: because the e commerce. The market is still there, it's

521
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: just it's shifted online. So um, luxury real estate has

522
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: taken a hit. Real estate as I know your your

523
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: mom is in real estate has so yeah. I mean

524
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: real estate You're always gonna do well in certain markets,

525
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: but it you know, like anything, it goes up and

526
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: it goes down. I got on the phone with my

527
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: investment rap at USA. I've been a member of USA

528
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: for a lot of a lot of years, and I

529
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: said sell out my entire stock portfolio. I'm putting it

530
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: into a CD just to hold it because I I

531
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: don't nobody can predict when the recession is coming. I

532
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: just want to keep it cash, and when it hits

533
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: and gets close to the bottom, I'll put it all

534
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: back in. Also throwing there. One thing I do follow

535
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: is precious metals. The price of platinum plummeted. The price

536
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: of silver plummeted, Like now is the time to buy

537
00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: precious metals as well. Yeah, so um, anyway, guys, hopefully

538
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: that explains the the name change. Well. I think the

539
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: one other question listeners might have is it's not going

540
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: to affect the name the name of this show. No,

541
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: not at all. I mean, and we're having a place

542
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: for softwarep to integrate into the um into the new

543
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: site as well. But this show is like not changing whatsoever.

544
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's people know what software radio absolutely because

545
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: there's so many people just subscribed on their iPhone and

546
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: their Android, and it's like I think we've really I've

547
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: certainly realized that like just the name Softwrep Radio at

548
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: least for particularly what I do, Like it's bigger than you,

549
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: It's bigger than Jack it's bigger than me. It's just

550
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: this with the guests that we've had on but between

551
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: Rob O'Neil, brad Thor like, it is just disrespected name

552
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: and podcasting and I and I you know, I talked

553
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: to UM, we're we're working with uh you know, well

554
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: I'm not working with yet, but we had some PR

555
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: folks and I'm interviewing a couple of PR firms in

556
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: the city and and when they found out, we were

557
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: how much money we give back and how much support

558
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: we give back to veterans causes like you guys need

559
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: to do a better job of explaining this. So for one,

560
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: thank you for your support of the show. And if

561
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: you're a subscriber to any one of our our products,

562
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: whether your Team Room subscriber, Craig Club subscriber, Kuna Kuna

563
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: Dog subscriber, UM, you've got to know like this company

564
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: not only employs a lot of veterans, um we give

565
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: back like last year, Um, I mean it, it's over

566
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: six figures and give back and support and and also

567
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, and I think you got to pick a

568
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: charity too. I said, look, everybody in the company gets

569
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: to pick a charitable cause. And I'm pretty sure. Nine

570
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: of the charities picked were we're you know, some type

571
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: of veteran cause charity. Yea. Mine was Horses for Heroes

572
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: with our Frederick Eye Uchi and and that. And I

573
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: did that to show internally to the company, Look, we

574
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: care and we give back, because give back is what

575
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: it's all about. Um. And and so not only are

576
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: as a listener you're supporting, you know, veteran own company.

577
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: We you're also supporting the community because we give back

578
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: to a ton of of the really good veteran uh

579
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: run charities out there. So without without saying anything more,

580
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: I think we can get into And thanks guys for

581
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: for bearing with me on the on the fucking sealed drama.

582
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: I just felt it feels pent up inside. You could

583
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: you haven't been on here, Yeah, I haven't been on it,

584
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, And it's just like, you know, I'm like,

585
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, here we go again, you know. And I

586
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: felt like, look, um, this Andy guy. I wish him

587
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: the best, I honestly do. I hope he finds perspective

588
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: and you know, I can sit here and go, look,

589
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: I get what he's doing. UM, And hopefully he learns

590
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: and matures and finds perspective, because what he's doing is

591
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: in my eyes, just it's counterproductive to his own brand,

592
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: per Sally, and I can sit here and objectively look.

593
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: I went and looked at his Instagram when he first started,

594
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, kind of coming on the scene. The guy's

595
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: doing a lot of good stuff, and so I just

596
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: think if he focuses on the positive stuff in his life, um,

597
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: he's going to be way more successful. Because what a

598
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: lot of guys like him don't realize when they're out there,

599
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: you know, trash talking other people, is there's people listening,

600
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: and some people may nod their head and smile and

601
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: go yeah, and then they get on the phone and

602
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: they call the person and go, hey, do you know

603
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: that this guy's out there saying this stuff? Because that's

604
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: what's happening in Andy's case. I had several big brands

605
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: call me up or one of the guys and say, hey,

606
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: this guy is kind of saying this and we're like, yeah,

607
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: you know what, look whatever, we know what we're doing.

608
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: And the key to being successful in life in business

609
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: is holding your integrity and in its consistency, it's staying consistent, consistent, consistent.

610
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: It's one of the things I love about Gary. You

611
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: vaynerchuk Um and I talked to Gary and Can's lions.

612
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: You go back and look at those old videos of

613
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: Gary that they sometimes repost on his and it's Gary

614
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: v on Instagram. The he's like in a dark, you know,

615
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: basement and Jersey and his parents wine store, just preaching

616
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: the fucking truth. And you look at those videos and

617
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: when he had no audience and he's still on point,

618
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: and it just shows you the guy is over I

619
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: think three million followers now on Instagram, and he's just

620
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: stayed on points, stayed on message, and he's one of

621
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: the most positive people I know. It's what I love

622
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: about Gary. When guys come up to him and ask

623
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: him questions and they start using excuses, Well this guy

624
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: did that, and that guy that He's like, wait a minute,

625
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: shut the funk up, focus on yourself. I remember I

626
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: watched an interviews. This kid was like, well, the Instagram

627
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: algorithm this and it didn't post my photo. He's like, look,

628
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: you're a photographer. Focus on taking consistent, kick ass pictures.

629
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: Don't focus on the fact that the algorithm is not

630
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: your friend and you didn't get as many likes like

631
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: you need to worry you're worried about Instagram, worried about

632
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: your fucking trade and taking good fucking photographs and the

633
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: rest happens. And so I think that's a huge lesson.

634
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: That's why I love Gary V and I love I've

635
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: I've run into him a couple of times now, um.

636
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: And we have a mutual friend with Jerick Robbins, who's

637
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: Tony Robinson Jerik you know, connected me with Gary and

638
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: just good dudes. And that's that's that's why I'm not

639
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: going on these fucking podcasts to trash talk and stir

640
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: up drama. I'm like hanging out with these guys that

641
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: are extremely successful, extremely positive people, and they don't have

642
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: time for that ship and I certainly don't have time

643
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: for it either. So with that said, I would like

644
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: to get into mastering Fear out now everywhere that books

645
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: are sold. Um. And it was just the other night

646
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: you did a you did speaking engagement at Borns and

647
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: Noble Kamal Rabicant there Q and A and there were

648
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: some really excellent UM questions that you took from the audience.

649
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: I was I was actually really impressed by just the

650
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: questions that you got. I mean, the audience was incredibly smart.

651
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: I was. And that's what what I really enjoy about

652
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: this category of writing is that, Um, you know I

653
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: get I get the military audience, and the guys love

654
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: that ship. They love hearing the stories. But for me,

655
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: it's like where I'm out of my life now. Um,

656
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: this is the kind of stuff that I really am

657
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: passionate about enjoy. It's leadership. I was on the I

658
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: was on this serious XM. Wharton Business Business radio. Yeah,

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00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: one thirty two I think, so you guys want to

660
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: listen to that. It's a channel one thirty two Warden Business. Yeah,

661
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: they have on demand. So yeah, one of the professors,

662
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: Mike and I talked last night about leadership. Um. So

663
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: I love this new audience and you know, mastering Fear

664
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: the you know what inspired the book was, you know,

665
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: becoming really good friends with Kamal Rabican. And Kamal has

666
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: been I don't know if Kamal has been a guest

667
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: on Software Report, so he's so so he's been a

668
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: guest on the show. Um, those of you guys that

669
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: don't know who Kamal is, Kamal is actually an army veteran.

670
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: He did a few years in the Army. I think

671
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: the UM taught him on to fuck this up and

672
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: guys are gonna give me ship. But it's something. I

673
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: think it's something in the Mountain division. Um. Yeah, he's

674
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: he's spoken about it on the show. I mean, if

675
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: you guys go back on soccer dot com slash radiocamal

676
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: has been on I think two or three times and

677
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: comal there we go. Kamal Is is a great guy.

678
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: You never look at him and say this guy's an

679
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: Army vet. Um. You know he did when he he

680
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: lost his father and he went on this kind of

681
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: self discovery mission walk the Camino Santiago, which I think

682
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: is close to five miles on foot in Spain. It's

683
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: his pilgrimage. Route wrote a book about it called Rebirth,

684
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: which is a novel, but it's really his life story

685
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: doing the Camino walk. Um was an early Silicone Valley guy.

686
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: Um you know his brother and he's a partner in

687
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: a company called angel List, which is one of the

688
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: first kind of syndicates to to kind of push away

689
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: the venture capital community and for the tech this kind

690
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: of the tech community to to invest in their friends

691
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: and UM and angels is massive. His brother. Duval is

692
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: a great guy. I follow him on on Twitter and

693
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: so now Comal is fast forward. We we both moved

694
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: to New York about the same time. We got introduced

695
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: by a mutual friend of ours, became quick friends, and

696
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: over time I learned Comal didn't know how to swim,

697
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, Comal, there's no way that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be my friend. And and we we got to

699
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: deal with this swimming issue because he he would ask

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00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: me every now at the end of you say, oh, what,

701
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: what do you know a good school and emerging course?

702
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: Maybe there's this one in Florida. And I just said, look,

703
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: there's this is crazy, Like just give me a week

704
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: an hour morning Monday through Friday. Just commit to me, um,

705
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: and you'd be the guy because you I know from

706
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: being friends with you and also just doing this podcast

707
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: with you, that swimming was really your strong suit before anything,

708
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: just like we had Rob O'Neil on here, who's like

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00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: shooting was his strong suit. Yeah, I'm not a fast swimmer,

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Speaker 1: but I'm a strong swimmer, Like I could swim for

711
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: miles of miles, but you do you A lot of

712
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: people don't know this. I did the Catalina Classic, which

713
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: is a laid down paddle race on a paddle board

714
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: thirty two nautical miles from if Smith's Catalina Island to

715
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: Manhattan Beach. It was it was harder than Hell Week.

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00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: I'll it was harder than Hell Week because I had

717
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: never been. You know, Hell Week and seal training. They're

718
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: constantly pumping calories into you. And for those of you

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Speaker 1: don't don't know what Hell week is, it's a yeah,

720
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: but part of the first phase of seal training is UM.

721
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: The end of the first phase of the conditioning phases,

722
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: you go through this Hell week, five and a half

723
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: days long, no sleep, UM, but they're pumping pumping you

724
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: full of calories and you cant making you hydrate. And

725
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: I got way behind the hydration curve and really felt

726
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 1: what it was like to bunk twenty miles into the race,

727
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: and I was doing it in in memory of Mike Bearden,

728
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: a friend I lost in the scott Having accident, which

729
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: I wrote about it among Heroes. I got to mile

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Speaker 1: twenty and bomked and I literally had the last twelve miles.

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Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even remember. My mom and

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00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: family met me on the beach. They said, I was

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00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: completely out of it. I literally blocked out and I

734
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: woke up in the in the Navy truck towing the

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00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: boat that was supporting me for the for the race

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Speaker 1: on the back to Sandy Azy. It was crazy. So

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Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, though, is that from what

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Speaker 1: I know, just from speaking with you in the past,

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00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: like you're not a guy one into the seals and

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00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: thought you were necessarily going to be a sniper. Swimming

741
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: was your thing. Yeah, I had no I swimming was

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00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: my thing. Uh, spear fishing was my thing. And I

743
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: didn't make the correlation as when I was going through

744
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: sniper training. People are like, why is branded so good

745
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: at stalking? You know, this is the sneaking around phase.

746
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: And I realized, I just understood. It's growing up hunting

747
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: Calico bass and the kelp forests off California, shooting yellowtail tuna. Um.

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00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: As a free diver, you use the sun position, the kelp,

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00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: the reef, you kind of slide. You're using all these

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00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: features and it's like hunting with the bow and arrow

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00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: in the forest or the woods and so um. Yeah,

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00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: I I was really good at at the stocking portion

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00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: because of my experienced spear fishing, but it never shot. Like.

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00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: The shooting was something I had to work really really

755
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: hard to become good at um. But you know, back

756
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: to Camal, you know, I had been an instructor in

757
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: the military at the Seal Sniper program. I knew how

758
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: to train people. I've done especially went all in on

759
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: this mental management with my friend Landy Basham, who was

760
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: an Olympic gold medalist who really consulted with us and said,

761
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: you guys are teaching wrong. You up, yeah, and go

762
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: get that which highly recommend with winning in mind and

763
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: that freedom. Yeah, this is freedom flight. He's written a

764
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: bunch of books, and so you know I had all this.

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00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: You know when Lanny what he can The main thing

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00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: Landy did for us is, you guys are teaching all wrong.

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00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: You're focusing on negative. You're when you have a beginner,

768
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: their mind is clear and it's like this blank slate.

769
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: And if you start pointing out all their mistakes and

770
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: yelling at him, you're doing this wrong, You're doing that wrong.

771
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: You're filling their head full of bad habits. He said,

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00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: stop that, because you can. Chances are the ten things

773
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: you're saying wrong to the person you could probably say

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00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: two or three things to to correct the deficiency. And

775
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: you're programming them, you're positive in printing them for success,

776
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: and you're you're building a strong foundation of knowledge. That way. Um,

777
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: the other way is much harder and get some guys

778
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: don't get it and they get left behind. And that

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00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: that was what was happening at the sniper course. We're

780
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: losing of the class. And when we put this landing

781
00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: system in place and we started graduating nearly everybody and

782
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: and so I said, come on, give me a week.

783
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna teach you how to swim. So I got

784
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: him in the pool and I thought about, okay, how

785
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: am I gonna How am I gonna teach him? I

786
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: have to get him comfortable because I know he's Camal

787
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: is afraid of the water, and so how do I

788
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: build confidence? And so I took it in small steps,

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00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: you know, and from Monday, a guy that wouldn't wouldn't

790
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: jump in the pool, he would get climbing on the

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00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: ladder and hold onto the side. And I even I

792
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: was like, wow, this is worse than I thought. And

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00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: then I worked on repetition, facing the water, exhale face out,

794
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: take a breath over and over, and by Friday he

795
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: could jump and do a cannonball dive down ten ft

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00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: and grab something off the bottom with no goggles. And

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00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 1: I remember we're on this. We're on the subway back

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00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: back to Flat Iron where we both live, and Camal says,

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00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: you changed my life. You got to write a book

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00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: about it. You got to write a book he wants.

801
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: He said, killing Fear, which I really liked. And I

802
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: wish I had enough pitched the publisher killing Fear right away,

803
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: because the one thing I learned about publishing a book.

804
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: Any of you guys that are out there to take

805
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: notes on this, um, publishers like your editor, always wants

806
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: to be a part of the process, and they add

807
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: a lot of good input and value. But if you

808
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 1: come to them with the title already, they're gonna scrap

809
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: it and want to change it immediately. And so thankfully

810
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm actually happy with mastering Fear. I gotta tell you

811
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: something great on that level. Um, you've seen that this

812
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: is the way out of left field, but it's a

813
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: reminding me of exactly what you're saying. You've seen the

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00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: Moley Crue Girls Girls Girls video with where the strip

815
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: clubs all that. Um, so they've talked about that. They

816
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: they shot that as the original version, and they were like, man,

817
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: MTV is not gonna let us put this on. Girls

818
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: in lingerie and all that. So they shot what they

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00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: called like an uncensored version with like it's out everything,

820
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: and they gave that to MTV and MTV was like,

821
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: we can't air this. So then they gave them the

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00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: original version of what they wanted and they were like,

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00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: much better, guys, we'll put this on. When they were like,

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00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: this wouldn't have aired. We have not a smart move on. Therefore, Yeah,

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00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: it's a strategy and I've done I've learned a lot.

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00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: You know, you think I would have learned faster by now,

827
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: but hey, um, it's exactly the case, because usually what

828
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: you do is it's like I could to be honest.

829
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: The Red Circle, which my first book mark resident who's

830
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: a close friend of mine now and a brilliant editor

831
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: at St. Martin's Press, he said, hey, I want more.

832
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about your childhood stuff. I

833
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: could care less just focus on the seals and the

834
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: and you're the time you deployed to Afghanistan, just like

835
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: that's enough, and I said, you know what, everyone asked

836
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: me my child, like, how how does a guy like

837
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: you end up in the seals? So I knew that

838
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: there was this curiosity out there, especially because we had

839
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: started softwarep at the time. And so I wrote that

840
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: I sold the book he wanted, and I wrote the

841
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: book I wanted. And that was kind of like the

842
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: Molly Cruz thing. Sometimes you you just got to get

843
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: the deal close and then put it forward and Mark

844
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: Mark read it and he says, Okay, I get it.

845
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: You win. Uh, and so but that was the case.

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00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, my friendship with Comal inspired mastering fear Um

847
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: because he said I changed his life, which which I did.

848
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: I think, and I'm really well. He even said during

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00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: the Barnes and Noble discussion, He's like, you changed my

850
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: life and you may have even saved my life in

851
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: the future because I told him, I said, come all,

852
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: you now, like I know, if you fell off the

853
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: side of a boat, you know what to do and

854
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: you know how to stay afloat and survive, and and

855
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: that's that's what's important. You may not win any you know,

856
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: um Trathlons in the swimming category, but you're gonna be fine,

857
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: and and it's just a great thing, you know. And

858
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: we before we spoke at Barnes and Noble, Comal was like, hey, man,

859
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: let's go swimming again. And he's even like my kids

860
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: are excited because my kids love Comal and they're like, hey,

861
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: can we bring Comal to the water park? And Kamal

862
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: is like genuinely excited about it, and and I just

863
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: I think we a lot of us that grew up

864
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to swim because our parents got it into

865
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: us early, Like we take for granted like swimming is fun,

866
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: like going down to water slide is fun, the water

867
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: park is fun. Come I never got to experience any

868
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: of that as a child, and now to see like

869
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: he's actually excited about it as an adult. And so

870
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: there's a big water park on the West coast, So yeah,

871
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: I do too. I still love one. So my kids

872
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: are like, come on, we gotta take them all the

873
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: water parks. That'll be cool. Man. I was gonna say

874
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: with this, I was also going to mention that with

875
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: this book, I feel like I've in some way been

876
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: a part of the process of this book because a

877
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: lot of the content are interviews that he did both

878
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: on the Power of Thought and then some soft REAP

879
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: radio content like James Powell Power of Thought. Guys liked

880
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: j Ramone, Um, guys like Captain Jerry Yellen, who I

881
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: I've said, I'm very I'm pretty sure you may have

882
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 1: done the last interview of his wife because right after

883
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: that interview a couple of months later, and Jerry Yellen,

884
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: for those of you that don't remember, was the It

885
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: was a World War two P fifty one pilot. I

886
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: don't know if Jerry was an ACE, but he flew

887
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: the last combat mission over Japan and he was ninety

888
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: or something and we did this amazing interview with him

889
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: and he found out I was a pilot. We started

890
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: talking aviation and he was supposed to come out to

891
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: New York in March and we're gonna go flying. I said, look, Jerry,

892
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you in my my RV upside down

893
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: over the statue and he was like, bring it on,

894
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: like that's awesome. Um, so it really sucks we didn't

895
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: get to do the flight, but you know, to get

896
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: that one of the last interviews, and Jerry has an

897
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: amazing story. If you guys, just google him on YouTube

898
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: because he's got that incredible story about him, you know,

899
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: kind of finding peace with with his experience in the

900
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: war culture and the show to go back to Power

901
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: Thought with Jerry Ellen and check it out because it

902
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: was a great interview. But yeah, that was a great show.

903
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of that content was built

904
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: from great interviews that you've done. No absolutely and largely

905
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: a lot of interviews you helped us get as well.

906
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: And you know, and one thing I realized was that

907
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: and the reason I wanted to feature these people in

908
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: the book, like astronaut Scott Kelly, James altert C. J. Ramone,

909
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: these people and are very successful in these fields, and

910
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: we all have this common thread, um, and one of

911
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: them is we all deal with fear. And it's like

912
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: how do we how do we deal with the fear

913
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: and the and this voice in our head that sometimes

914
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: creeps up that says we're not good enough? And I

915
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: think it's important for people to understand like that a

916
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: lot of people they look up to, like, we're all human,

917
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: we all deal with the same ship. And here one

918
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: thing I learned in writing the book was when I

919
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: went to sat down with my editor and John Man,

920
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: my writing partner were like, Okay, we got to build

921
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: the system. And they pointed at me, like, Brandon, you

922
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: gotta come up with the system. And I said, okay,

923
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: let me think about it. And and I actually, you know,

924
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: created the framework and in John. And one of the

925
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: brilliant things I love about John is he just makes

926
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: everything I do better. Um. And he's one of the

927
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: amazing writers I do. Like I'll think, oh, man, I

928
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,959
Speaker 1: just really wrote this amazing you know, five thousand words

929
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: and John will just smooth it over. I oh my god,

930
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: it's it captures my voice and he just makes it

931
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: way way better. He adds things here and there. Um.

932
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: He's really good about adding references like pop culture references,

933
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 1: which I always forget to do because people that helps

934
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: people visualize better way when you read. Um, so I

935
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: learned myself like and I actually used this book. I

936
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: was on vacation in Europe and we had a you know,

937
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: a big issue in the company we're still digging ourselves

938
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: out of. Facebook had censored our our advertisements and a

939
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: lot of our advertisements drive revenue. Facebook has censored as

940
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: they said, you guys, they banned all of our ads

941
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: briefly because they thought we were selling guns on the internet,

942
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: which was crazy, um, and we lost a ton of

943
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: revenue and we got behind with with our vendors. And

944
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: it was a point where I was sitting there going, Okay,

945
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: all hell's breaking loose, what's going on in the business.

946
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: Why am I in France on vacation? I should be

947
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: back watching things? Like all the stuff started spinning out

948
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: of control my head. You know, people like you know

949
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: and as calling me, you know, freaking out about vendors,

950
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: are operations, guys calling me and I just had to

951
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: think about it and go, wait a minute. Um. I

952
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: literally pulled up the digital version of Mastering Fear and

953
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: looked at my own format, and I put myself through

954
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: the process and was able to kind of, um, get

955
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: recentered and come up with a plan. And one of

956
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: the things I talked about last night on on the

957
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: Wharton podcast, because it's all about leadership, I said, what

958
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: I think makes a good leader is like, anybody could

959
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: lead an organization with good people and things are going right,

960
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's when ship hits the fan. It's something

961
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, whether you get contact with the enemy and

962
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: the military or in business, all of a sudden you

963
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: have like this Niger issue. You know, we have this

964
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 1: controversy over that. It's like what you do in those

965
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: cases are what matters and and set you apart because

966
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: it it's a test of your leadership skill and you

967
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: have to communicate to the team. Um, like this is

968
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: a strategy. Everybody calmed down, and um, you know, I

969
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: even remember having a conversation with Jack Murphy because he

970
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: was getting a little you know, a little bit freaked

971
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 1: out because it was not um, you know, a few

972
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: people going after that video was quite a few that, yeah,

973
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: really upset taking shots at his daughter. So, um, you

974
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: know My point is it's you know, I took my

975
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: own advice on this on the book, so I actually

976
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: learned a lot in writing mastering fear of myself. Um,

977
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: you know. And and if I would say, the one

978
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: thing I think people are really going to take away

979
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: is is this self talk the portion on there and

980
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: there about self talk and kind of getting your head clear. Um,

981
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: I think it's really going to help people. And it's

982
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: a lot of it's not only drawn on my own

983
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: personal experiences dealing with fear, like leaving home at sixteen,

984
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: having to like when I first got my job on

985
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: the scuba diving boat and got certified and only had

986
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: a handful of dives. The captain shaking me away to

987
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: two in the morning, saying, you gotta go down and

988
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: get the anchor unstuck, and we're at a you know,

989
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: shark infested dive spot. Was this was a or a

990
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: seal and sea lion habitat on the back side of

991
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: Sa Miguel Island, which is this cold like northern island

992
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: off the off the coast of California. I was terrified

993
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: to like swim down there two in the morning and

994
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: have to get to this anchor and stuck. But you know,

995
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: it's like dealing with all these fears, showing up to buds,

996
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, out of shape, getting singled out out of

997
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: two people that classed up with my with my seal

998
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: training us to fifteen and only twenty three of us

999
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: making it. At the end, it's all these stories and

1000
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: the guys like c. J. Ramone Uh talks about going

1001
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: up on stage for the first time and what that

1002
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: felt like. Yeah, So it's you know, it's very real

1003
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: and and I think this book it's it's one of

1004
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: my most probably my favorite book to date, because it's

1005
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: a book that's I think going to help a lot

1006
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: of people. Well, so you were saying that there's like

1007
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: a common thread that all these people in the book

1008
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 1: have that they all deal with fear. The other common

1009
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: threat I've noticed, um, from being a part of these

1010
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: interviews was that all pretty much all of these people

1011
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: in the book from Siri Linley, Um, you know, all

1012
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: these people we interviewed on power thought, they believe in

1013
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: like meditation, visualization, you know, journaling your thoughts. And it's funny,

1014
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm into all of that. You're into all of that,

1015
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: and I meet people all the time who are unmotivated

1016
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: and they're like, I'm not until all that self help stuff.

1017
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: I think it's nonsense, But like you're in good company

1018
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: if you believe in that stuff. Like everybody from Michael

1019
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: Jordan's to all the people in here believe in that.

1020
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: And I think it's hard to think that it's nonsense

1021
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: when it's a proven thing that all these Olympic champions

1022
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: and just accomplished business leaders are all doing the same thing. Yeah,

1023
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: I mean it's not that hard. Whatever your profession is,

1024
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: you look at who are the best, what are they doing,

1025
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: and you implement that and you do it, and then

1026
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: you start hanging out with people that are better than

1027
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: you because it forces your level of performance to rise

1028
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: to their's. Like it's why, Um, you know, I hanging

1029
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: out with a certain group. I'm I belong to the

1030
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: Young President's Organization YPO. I have two guys in my

1031
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: eight person YPO forum that run billion dollar companies, like

1032
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: they're running billion dollar organizations, and I'm the small guy,

1033
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: probably the smallest business in my YPO group. But that

1034
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: stuff rubs off on you and it praises your your

1035
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: level up and and that's what I love about it.

1036
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: And so whatever you want to do, you have to

1037
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: look at what the successful people are doing in that industry,

1038
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: whether it's real estate, sports, you know what, a doctor,

1039
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: lawyer or whatever, like whatever you want to do. And

1040
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: I talk about mastering fear, knowing what matters, and a

1041
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: lot of people I don't think spend enough time figuring

1042
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: out what matters to them in their life, and they're

1043
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: drifting through life with no fucking plan and it's the

1044
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: wrong thing to do. They come up to me, Um

1045
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: and a lot of my friends and they say, well, um,

1046
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: I want to be like you. I want to be

1047
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: I want to have a business. I want to have money.

1048
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: I want to be rich. I want to be successful

1049
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: and and I love I love that I want to

1050
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: be rich question because I go, well, what does that mean?

1051
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: Like what how much is rich? How much money is rich?

1052
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: And they don't fucking have an answer. They have no

1053
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: clue whatsoever because they haven't gone through the process of

1054
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: what matters. And I talked about this on Power thought, uh,

1055
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: the whole financial exercise and like why it's important to

1056
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: know your number? But I talked about a masking fear.

1057
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: Why it's important to know what matters because when you

1058
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: know what matters in your life, whether it's personal, family, business,

1059
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: or professional, then you can then you can understand, like

1060
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: what are the obstacles standing in your way? Is it

1061
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: this person I'm hanging out with it's dragging me down?

1062
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: Is it my insecurity over this issue? But once you

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00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: know you're what matters, everything else becomes easier. Um. But anyway,

1064
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: mastering fear, do you know what I wanted to ask you? Um?

1065
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: When I was watching that Q and A at Barnes

1066
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: and Noble, They're really worth some incredible questions and it

1067
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: got me thinking, like, what questions do I want to

1068
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: ask Brandon. So I mentioned this quote on the last podcast.

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00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: I've mentioned it many times before, but it is my

1070
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: favorite quote. UM, the Bruce Lee quote of absorbed what

1071
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: is useful, discard what is useless, add what is uniquely

1072
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: your own. I try to do that with everything. So

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00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: there's all different types of people you interviewed in the

1074
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: process of making this book, and you're not going to

1075
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: agree with everybody that you interviewed on everything, But like,

1076
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: what's something that you took from one of the people

1077
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: that are in this book and utilized in your own

1078
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: life and said, like, I'm gonna start practicing this. You know, honestly,

1079
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: it was, Um, I had a visions I have. So

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00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: I have a vision statement and i'll um, I wish

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00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm on my i G live right now as we're talking. Um,

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00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: I've I've covered my vision statement before. But I have

1083
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: a vision statement, which is kind of like a company's

1084
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: mission statement. It's like, this is who I am, the

1085
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: type of person I am. It's like a statement that

1086
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: and sometimes it can be the kind of person that

1087
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: you want to be, UM to like to develop into.

1088
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: So I have my mission statement, I have my goals,

1089
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: UM that I review every year and its personal goals, uh,

1090
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: family goals, business goals, and they're all measurable. There's an

1091
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: acronym called smart. I think specific measurable and blah blah blah.

1092
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: But that you know you and what I mean by

1093
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: that is my goal. Isn't I wanna I want to

1094
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: lose weight this year. It's like, okay, I wanna uh

1095
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: lose thirty pounds. I'm gonna lose, you know, ten pounds

1096
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: by March one, Like you just put the you gotta

1097
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: put specifics and deadlines on there. And I have that.

1098
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: And we were talking, we were interviewing. You got this

1099
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: interview for us Frank Saane Frank Sane and he started

1100
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: talking about his mantra and how he reviewed it every

1101
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: morning and I had already had him, he said that

1102
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: he said it to himself, like one million times I've

1103
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: already had. I already had a morning routine, which includes

1104
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: a short meditation. But I said, you know what, I

1105
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: need to write a mantra for myself. And and not

1106
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: only do I review the mantra uh daily in the morning,

1107
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: I review it when I'm off center, like if I'm

1108
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: having if something nudges me. And we all have this.

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00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,479
Speaker 1: We can all get thrown off center. And if you're

1110
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: like emotional, whether it sad, anger, whatever, I go back

1111
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: to that mantra and read it over and over again

1112
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: and it helps me recenter. And that was probably the

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01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: biggest impact that that I've had. And it's it's an

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: incredibly powerful thing. And you know, I don't know, I

1115
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: think that's the one thing that comes sets Yeah. No,

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01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's extremely important keeps you in

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01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: the right mindset. I've utilized that in my own life.

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01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: I keep pieces of paper around my ass with small

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01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: mantras and I've had friends say like, what the hell

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01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: is this and and You're like, it's something to keep

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01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: me in the right minds. Yeah, And because I think

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01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: all of us have, you know, positive energy and negative energy,

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01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: and it's like using that, utilizing that to create something,

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01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: to create something powerful. Um. So, any any other like

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Speaker 1: takeaways that that you want people to get from this

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01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: before they pick up the book or um I'm sure

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01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that that are interested. And

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01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: this is like your third book of this type. I

1129
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: should throw out there, Power Thought, Total Folk and this.

1130
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: These are like your three post military books and this

1131
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 1: is because you know, I just really like this stuff. Um,

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01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: let me see, it would be nice to read a

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01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: excerpt out of here. I actually like that you put

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01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: the James Powell story in there. I was looking at

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01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: that earlier. I love that story of him entering the

1136
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: c I a thinking he didn't stack up to these

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01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: other guys, and this old woman at the desk saying him, like,

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01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: your ear, there's a reason your ear. I'm gonna just

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01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: read the conclusion, um, and then we'll we'll call it

1140
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: the start from the beginning, to start from the end

1141
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: of Yeah, well, the conclusion and the reason I think

1142
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: that this conclusion is important is because the whole purpose

1143
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: behind mastering your fear, like we all live with fear,

1144
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: either we decided to take control of it and use

1145
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: it to our advantage or it's going to or let

1146
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: it control us. And the more that you do it

1147
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: in small steps, the more it becomes a habit, and

1148
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: the more that you're able to kind of take the

1149
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: solo flight. And once you do the solo flight, which

1150
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: i'll read here, it's very um, it's very enlightening and empowering.

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01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: And so I'll just read you guys the conclusion and

1152
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: I quote Theodore Roosevelt who says, I have never in

1153
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: my life envied a human being who led an easy life.

1154
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: I've envied a great many people who led difficult lives

1155
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: and led them well. And that's by old Teddy Roosevelt.

1156
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: So one chilly day in early two thousand four, in

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01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: the middle of an old military airfield right on the

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01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 1: San Diego Tiajuana border, my flight instructor, John Kerry pulled

1159
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: a surprise. We were taxing the taxing along the runway

1160
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: when John's gravelly voice suddenly spoke up. Hey, Paul over,

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01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: this is where I hop out. Um, you're going to

1162
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: solve this thing, he says to me. I had no

1163
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: idea this was coming. He hadn't give me a clue,

1164
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: though I didn't know it at the time. This is

1165
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: an old school military aviation tradition. You don't know when

1166
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna do your first solo flight and your instructor

1167
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: springs it on you. To be honest, I was kind

1168
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: of floored. Was I ready for this? But there was

1169
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: no point even asking the question. What was I gonna say? No? Okay,

1170
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: I said, I pulled over. He hopped out of the plane,

1171
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: accelerated out of the taxi area, UM got permission to

1172
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: take off, pulled back on the stick and took off,

1173
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: and it was I remember the exhilarating, the feeling of

1174
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: and being scared at the same time. It's such a

1175
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: rush to actually be on the plane alone and and

1176
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: and fly. Um. Not just a thrill of flying, but

1177
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: the flush of new confidence I can do this, which

1178
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: I think to pause for a moment, That's what I

1179
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: was saying earlier. UM. I did three or four laughs

1180
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: around the pattern by myself, and that was it. I

1181
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: was hooked in a small plane. You don't have the

1182
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: hydraulics that run the big airplanes, so it's purely mechanical,

1183
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: so you really feel in touch with the plane. When

1184
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: you pull back on the stick for takeoff, you're feeling

1185
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: the actual mechanical resistance of all that wind and air

1186
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: pressure you're pulling against. We call that kind of flying

1187
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: stick and stick and rudder, where you feel the control surfaces,

1188
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: the connection between man and machine and the elements. I

1189
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: love everything about it. There's a little trim wheel that

1190
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: trims the elevator, which neutralizes some of the resistance on

1191
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: then we get the resistance from the wind and the

1192
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, depending on the pitch of the plane. If

1193
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: you find you're having to pull back really hard, you

1194
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: can trim the elevator, which takes some of the control

1195
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: pressure out of the yoke. John calls it the pilot's

1196
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: best friend. Even today, all these years later, whenever I fly,

1197
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: I still hear his voice in my ear yelling, God,

1198
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: damn it. Trim the plane. Trim the dawn plane. After

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Speaker 1: after you do that first short solo, then they send

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01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: you out on what they call across country flight, hundreds

1201
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: of miles or more, far enough that you encounter different

1202
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: wind currents, changes in cloud cover, weather changes, changing conditions.

1203
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: You have to adapt to all in your own. First,

1204
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: you do it as a dual cross country which you

1205
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: play and yourself, but fly with your instructor. The next

1206
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: flight you fly it alone. My cross country solo was

1207
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: from San Diego to Santa Barbara, over two hundred miles.

1208
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't that challenging technically speaking, but it was one

1209
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: of the most intense flying experiences I've ever had because

1210
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: I was piloting the plane to a destination by myself.

1211
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: The whole way, I heard John's cracked, weathered old voice

1212
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: in my head, Brandon, please trim the plane before you

1213
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: kill us both. Trim the damn plane. Thank you. Starting

1214
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: my business was exactly like that one chilly day in

1215
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: early two thousand twelve, sketching out a basic website design

1216
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: on the back of a napkin, making the decision to

1217
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: leave my high paying executive job at L three and

1218
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: stake of my future on that napkin. And that really

1219
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 1: was a soft rip on a napkin. And you've told

1220
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: me before on the podcast Great Club was on a napkin. Yeah,

1221
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I've had a couple of napkin asines, ideas

1222
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: that you and a couple go really wrong. Um. So

1223
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, once you know what it's like to be

1224
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: the captain of your own destiny, you never want to

1225
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,439
Speaker 1: go back flying your own plane, captain in your own ship,

1226
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: running your own business, running your own team within an organization.

1227
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: They're all really the same thing. Making the decisions to

1228
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: get from point A to point B. There's a ton

1229
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: of responsibility and I love it. It's the most amazing feeling.

1230
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: There's a sense of agency. This high you get from

1231
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: knowing that by your wits and thoughts and actions alone,

1232
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: you are making the impossible possible. And I do mean you,

1233
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: because while you may not be a pilot or a

1234
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: sea captain or an entrepreneur CEO, yet that doesn't matter.

1235
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: Those are just details. You're the one in charge of

1236
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: your own time, your own life, and your own legacy.

1237
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: They say that when all is said and done, what

1238
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: matters is the love in your life, the relationships, the

1239
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: people you make the journey with. And I believe that,

1240
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: And that's to pause. That's why you know at the

1241
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: beginning of the show, you know, I hang around certain

1242
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: people and will only do certain interviews because the people

1243
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: you make that journey with. Um, that's what's important. My kids,

1244
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: my close friendships, there's nothing more important to me. Still,

1245
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: that doesn't change the reality. The reality is your life

1246
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: is up to you, no one else. Every one of

1247
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: us comes into this life alone, and alone we go

1248
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: out again. Your life is defined by a series of choices,

1249
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: and the one who makes every one of those decisions

1250
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: is purely and solely you. Yes, you have friends, advisors, mentors, colleagues, teammates.

1251
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: You love and are loved by others. Any of us

1252
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: who have been in the armed forces know that we

1253
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: would willingly willingly put our lives on the line for

1254
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: our brothers and sisters, give our lives to save. There's

1255
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: all that is true, and none of that changes the

1256
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: fact that you are the one running your race, and

1257
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: no one else can run it for you, not even

1258
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: one step. Life is a solo flight. You are the captain,

1259
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: and it's not a seven four seven with all the

1260
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: hydraulics and fancy equipment and massive automn tion. It seems

1261
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: may seem like that sometimes, like you can switch, throw

1262
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: a switch and turn on automatic pilot and sit back

1263
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: and relax, maybe even catch a few minutes of in

1264
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: flight movie. But trust me, it's a tiny single engine craft,

1265
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: no hydraulics, all mechanicals where you feel the resistance of

1266
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: air pressure pulling against the strength of your arms and shoulders.

1267
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: It's all stick and rudder and while love and friendship,

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Speaker 1: maybe the fuel fear is your navigator, not your adversary,

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Speaker 1: but your co pilot. It's cracked, weathered voice in your

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Speaker 1: ear saying, please, train, please trim the plane before you

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Speaker 1: kill us. Trim the band, Trim the damn plane. Um,

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Speaker 1: thank you, And this is where I hop out. You're

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Speaker 1: soloing this thing now. And I can still hear John's

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Speaker 1: voice like he I flew. I took him when I

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Speaker 1: bought this old Fuji airplane in Florida off this Marine

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Speaker 1: from Florida through the Bimuda Triangle to the which was

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Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. This was a couple of years ago, and

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Speaker 1: we were crazy, man, Like I think back in that

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Speaker 1: and here I was at John. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: he was along with experience, but he was just barking

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Speaker 1: at me the whole time, like I was a day

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Speaker 1: one student. But we had a blast. Man. We I

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Speaker 1: sent him a photo of the some of the excerpts

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Speaker 1: that I talked about him and our experiences in the

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Speaker 1: book and which he really appreciated. Um. You know, John's

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Speaker 1: almost eight years old now he's still flying. Um. But

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Speaker 1: he's just a great guy. And we just had this

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Speaker 1: like amazing experience together flying this this old in nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixties military Fuji war trainer airplane through the through the

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Speaker 1: Bermuda Triangle with the with basic instruments and a little

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Speaker 1: battery powered Garman, GPS, Dodge and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Um.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, guys, please pick up Master. Yeah, pick up

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Speaker 1: the book. That's just one story of many in there.

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Speaker 1: So um and and I do gotta let you guys know.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you can just go on your iPhone or

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Speaker 1: Channel app. It's separate apps. Yeah, And then you know,

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Speaker 1: it's been a while some I been on the Software

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Speaker 1: Up show it has and I remember when you said

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Speaker 1: you were leaving. I was like, I hope we get

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Speaker 1: you back on when there's something going on, and so

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Speaker 1: I will be back. Um, mark my words. I appreciate

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01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 1: you guys having me on again. And and also I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm really active on on Instagram and it kind of

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01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: push it out to Twitter and Facebook, but Instagram is

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01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 1: where you'll find me these days, and it's at Brandon

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Speaker 1: t Web and I've I don't think I have one

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01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: unanswered direct message or request, so I'm pretty Uh, I'm

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01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: pretty active on there and like to get back to

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Speaker 1: guys if it's a respectful question. You guys have um,

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Speaker 1: you know, questions about business flying, uh, selection and all

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01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: that stuff, you know, throw them, throw them my way,

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Speaker 1: but don't ask what's the heck to become a seal?

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Speaker 1: Don't there's no put it, put in the hard work. Um. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I was actually thinking about because I had a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys come at me. They're either veterans or

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Speaker 1: from um, you know, they're trying to start a business,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, I want to you know, I said, look,

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Speaker 1: I want I want to sit down and pick your brain.

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Speaker 1: And I said, look, I'm just only I only have

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Speaker 1: time to do paid engagements. But I started thinking about

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Speaker 1: it because a few of the guys said, look, I'll pay,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, don't you know, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: charge these guys. What I would like a big company

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Speaker 1: that pays you know a lot of ney to come

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Speaker 1: give a speaking engagement or do a consultation. Um. So

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Speaker 1: I thought about doing this like uh thought leaders club

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Speaker 1: or something and charging a few hundred bucks a month

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Speaker 1: and then just giving like doing a weekly Q and

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Speaker 1: A or a phone call. So I'm kind of tossing

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Speaker 1: that around in my mind. So if you guys, if

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Speaker 1: that sounds like something you're interested in, feel free to

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Speaker 1: hit me on a d M or or let me know, Um,

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Speaker 1: but that's it. You enjoyed being here? Yeah, no, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: always grow and I forget I'll good a co host.

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Speaker 1: You are because the guys, um someone sent me. Oh

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01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: it was at the book signing, a guy came up

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Speaker 1: and said, I've been with software from day one and

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Speaker 1: back when Quinn used to be on, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: but honestly, you know, he's like a lot of us

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Speaker 1: had resistance, but actually he's like, you guys are really

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01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: elevated the game, and Ian's really brought a lot of

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Speaker 1: different perspectives. So, um, you know, good on you, thanks man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's funny. I look back at the older reviews and

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Speaker 1: I did get a lot of heat early on, and

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Speaker 1: then those people have come roight c J Ramon, dude, yeah,

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Speaker 1: going over for there's the same ship. Yeah yeah, nobody like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: people don't like something new, but I still, you know,

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01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: I still see reviews every now and again they're like,

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Speaker 1: the show is not the same without Brandon. What are

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Speaker 1: you gonna have Brandon back on? Yeah, said that. There's

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Speaker 1: definitely people who love hearing you on here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: because we're all very different, I think, and you know

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Speaker 1: you're a very different voice on here than Jack, and

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Speaker 1: you know I completed that Power of Thoughts series, so

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Speaker 1: you know, I hope to come back on the show

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Speaker 1: more and do more filling for for Jack. But you

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Speaker 1: guys been doing it. Yeah, it's your company, so obviously

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Speaker 1: welcome on here anytime. UM, and we've had we've had

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Speaker 1: some colleagues of yours too, like Jack Carr was on

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01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: the show recently and spoke really highly of you, so

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Speaker 1: absolutely man with that. UM, thanks as always for checking

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Speaker 1: out what we do. We're ending the live stream here

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Speaker 1: as well. If you want to check out the whole

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Speaker 1: intro we did and you're watching the YouTube, UM, go

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Speaker 1: back to the podcast. But for those you listen to

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Speaker 1: the podcast, you heard it all. Really enjoyed the last

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Speaker 1: episode with c J. Wood Roof and by mastering Fear

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