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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: Episode two of Dirt at Least Like Guys, production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Tuesday, May,

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Speaker 1: which of course means it's National Cherry Cobbler Day and

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Speaker 1: also National Graduation tassel Day, those tasts. This is the

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Speaker 1: day that you like, get your tassel right in preparation

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Speaker 1: for I don't know, when you get your tassels out

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Speaker 1: and you kind of look back and you're like, I

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Speaker 1: did that eight gad, I did that great kindergarten nailed

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Speaker 1: day right, right? Is tassels the thing that people hang

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Speaker 1: on too, like probably me. I can't tell you where

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Speaker 1: then any of mine are. Yeah, I feel like I

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Speaker 1: threw mine up and that was a probably in a

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Speaker 1: box at my mom's house. Yeah, I have it because

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Speaker 1: my mom sent it to me and it remains in

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Speaker 1: a closet and it's like so big that like the

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Speaker 1: closet door can never close around it. The big one,

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Speaker 1: the big Oh yeah, we want big, we went big.

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Speaker 1: I want that. I told I told my mom when

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Speaker 1: I graduated. He's like, okay, you're gonna get the diploma

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Speaker 1: like they're trying to charge me fucking money. Fuck that.

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Speaker 1: I haven't don't worry. If there's ever a question, they

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Speaker 1: can find out. But I don't. I know I went

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Speaker 1: through that. I love Dominic, Brainston County. That proves it. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien, a K. Potatoes O'Brien. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm taking a break from A K. S. Because

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Speaker 1: Miles Body did that nine five Taco bell a K

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Speaker 1: so thoroughly that thank you so much. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's that's half at Wopple House. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: guys together. It was. It was a team effort. It

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Speaker 1: was it was a work of art. As Roger Ebert

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Speaker 1: said about Cameron Crowe when Vanilla S Guy came out,

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Speaker 1: Cameron crony is to take a stop, quit making films

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Speaker 1: and think about why he wanted to do it in

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Speaker 1: the first place. That's how That's how much he didn't

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Speaker 1: like Vanilla S Guy. She's just the meanest thing I've

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Speaker 1: ever read in a movie review, so I always think

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Speaker 1: about it. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always

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Speaker 1: by my co host, Mr Miles brad du Ling. Doulan, Dulean,

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Speaker 1: go to Circle K to get that purple can Okay,

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Speaker 1: shout out to NICKI. Nine lives at Nikki Underscore, nine

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Speaker 1: lives on Twitter, keeping the you know the wonderful Dolly

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Speaker 1: Mountain Dew Taco Bell just energy up. Which is I

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Speaker 1: like how dou lean actually works because the they're calling

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Speaker 1: that that new purple mountain dew purple drink or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, wait, is it mountain dew with lean?

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Speaker 1: But I guess dou Lean is really the only way

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Speaker 1: to call it now. Yeah. So and also the best

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Speaker 1: version of that song is screwed, so it does dound

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Speaker 1: a little bit like, you know, she's she's been sipping

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Speaker 1: some some playing that what is it playing at the

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Speaker 1: thirty three rpm thirty three RPMs. Well, Miles, We're thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined by a brilliant poet, political activist, academic

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Speaker 1: MC and podcast host of the Must Listen Hood Politics

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Speaker 1: with prop on Cool Zone Media. Please welcome the brilliant

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Speaker 1: and talented Jason Petty a K Propaganda. What what out?

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Speaker 1: West west west west west west west coast? Yeah, I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: m hmm, what's new? What's new? Hey? Man? Not changed,

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Speaker 1: but the weather, you know what I'm saying. Like the

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Speaker 1: old folks would be like, hey, you know what I'm saying, saying,

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Speaker 1: ship dip day little exactly exactly, take something real, some

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Speaker 1: sort of some sort of caker play. Wouldn't do nothing anyway.

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Speaker 1: So you're you're in uh Atlanta, Georgia. Can you are

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Speaker 1: you able to tell people that that you're through out there? Yeah? Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm some of y'all may know. I'm avid coffee enthusiast

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Speaker 1: enthusiast enthusiasts. I like coffee and just working on a

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Speaker 1: this other partner I'm working without in Atlanta out here.

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Speaker 1: So I was doing what's called a cupping, which is

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Speaker 1: just basically like you've every went in like a wine

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Speaker 1: tasting like that for coffee. Oh yeah, you spit it out,

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Speaker 1: you do, because it's a lot of coffee, Like you

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Speaker 1: should definitely spit it out because wait, so what a cupping?

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Speaker 1: How many like how many coffees are you trying in

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Speaker 1: when you buy a bag of coffee, as all those

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Speaker 1: it's got to be like an eighty an eighty or above.

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Speaker 1: It's on a scale of like one to a hundred.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if you're gonna do like the specialty

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Speaker 1: Did they ever just throw some folders in there to

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Speaker 1: funk with you. Yeah, you're gonna catch it immediately, you

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Speaker 1: know what what I'm saying. And what's funny about folders is

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Speaker 1: like it's because by the time it got into the can,

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Speaker 1: like do buy Qatar? Like the Middle East buys all those.

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's really just like drugs were like no,

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Speaker 1: it to you because like, I can't this, don't even

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Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Hey you can try folders though. Yo,

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Speaker 1: we got the C minus grades. Yeah, all right. So

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Speaker 1: I've been doing something lately. So for a while I

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Speaker 1: there's a bell curve of I mean that sounds awful,

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Speaker 1: of Like like anything, It's like when you first discover it,

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Speaker 1: You know now? And an Americano is that it's an

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Speaker 1: there's probably a better way to do this, but but uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure by you know, Michelin star chefs will

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Speaker 1: what I mean? You know, but I am, I am

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Speaker 1: clearly a user error there. Yeah, it sounds like proper.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to know you a little bit better

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Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we are telling our listeners a

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Speaker 1: couple of things we're talking about today. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about the racist terror attack that happened in Buffalo, replacement theory,

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Speaker 1: just racist Republican rhetoric in general. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about law and order, tackling Havana syndrome for about you,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, And then we're gonna talk about order upholding. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna talk about the show on order Dick

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Speaker 1: Wolf stuff. Yeah, the Dick Wolf, the Dick Wolf, the

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Speaker 1: do like to ask Eric, guess, what is something from

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Speaker 1: cut down on the clutter. Just just single file line.

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Speaker 1: I just I'm like, I'm gonna do this in a

419
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: single file line. It's like it's not your turn. You know,

420
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: I finished this Apple show, I'd be like, oh, I

421
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: wonder if Amazon got something crack it, And you're like,

422
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't need to be on time discourse, I'm just

423
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: gonna watch. Yeah, I'm just a single file line. You know.

424
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, so we got some more Ozark's all

425
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: right when I'm done with this. Oh so you're actually

426
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: line the way it looks like, it's like you can

427
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: actually sort of visualize your own queue of like ships

428
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch. Where it's in my head all becomes nebulous.

429
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, fucking I ain't got time for that, And

430
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: that just means I will never think about it again,

431
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: whereas no, you're yeah, I need that. Yes, single file line,

432
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: that's way I think about it. I think about that

433
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: with music too. Single file line. Right. Oh wow, how

434
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: how far behind are you? Well, I'm caught up. Now.

435
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: There are people that get cut in front of the

436
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: line passes, something like okay, hold on, the ratios are good.

437
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: All right, you can come in like like like like Kendrick,

438
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: we're got to cut in front of the line pass. Yeah, yeah,

439
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right

440
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: back and we're back and full disclosure. We were talking

441
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: about the Kendrick album over the break. I think we're

442
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: all on board. I'm taking it. Takes a little while.

443
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: I get to after I drop the kids off, I

444
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: get to like dig in. But they're they're still on there,

445
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: uh you know, trying to think what what their favorite

446
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: song is right now. But they're they're back to after

447
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: having a brief day aliens with the new Push album,

448
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: they're back to wanting to listen to just very basic

449
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: pop music and that they're over. Yeah, yeah, ninja kids.

450
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: Hopefully you don't have ninja kids in your house. No,

451
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: we don't have ninja kids yet. Good yeah, thank god.

452
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: So like his albums take me a long time. All

453
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: albums take me a long time, but like I feel

454
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: like I'm the first two songs are now like fully

455
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: in my blood and are incredible. I feel like I

456
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: can confidently said yeah, yeah, I I approach his work

457
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: like well any mostly most hip hop stuff, but I

458
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: approach his work from like three different positions. There's just

459
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: me as a fan of hip hop, doesn't me as

460
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: like an l A native also, and then there's me

461
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: as a also a professional rapper. You know, so there's

462
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: like so like you. For me, it's like I'll listen

463
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: straight through top to bottom twice, you know, and then

464
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: go back and be like all right to go one

465
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: by one. So it takes me a while too, but

466
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: like you know, and then there's the and it's something

467
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: it's like it seems absurd, but like, you know, if

468
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about one of the three most largest artists

469
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: in the world, you know that you still have a

470
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: competitive streak about like I probably would have done it

471
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: like this. Ya say it, and it's absurd to say it,

472
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: but it's like you're still the competitive part about you. Like,

473
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: damn it, he said that way better than I would

474
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: have a right, how does he do it? Damn it?

475
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: All right, I'm taking I'm going to seminar with that

476
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: cart tolling. Now it seems like that's the secret of

477
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: the I mean, when I listen to that, I'm like, Wow,

478
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: you sound like me when I graduated college and I

479
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: got the power of now for the first time, I'm like,

480
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: are y'all reading this ship? Yeah, that's you know what's funny.

481
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: It's crazy because like I'm here at this record label,

482
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: like we were all talking about the idea that like

483
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: he he sounds thirty five, which is what is which

484
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: is perfect. But it's like somebody who just discovered that

485
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: you were full of ship. Yeah yeah, and we all

486
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: remember the day we discovered we were full of ship,

487
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: and like you said, were just like, oh my god,

488
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: you need therapy. Hey guys, did you know you need

489
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: a therapy? And we're like, yeah, we know. But it's

490
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: cool to hear him, to hear him get to the

491
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: moment to be like, yeah, man, you got a young brother.

492
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We know, you know, right,

493
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: what if that person who was saying, oh my god,

494
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: you guys, we need therapy was a once in a

495
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: generation genius, Yeah, then it's that yeah, yeah, yeah, whose

496
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: creative abilities far surpasses any other human on the planet

497
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah yeah, alright, let's let's talk about you know,

498
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: there was a terrorist attack mass murder in Buffalo over

499
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: the weekend by a white supremacist who you know, the

500
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: first thing they cited was also the same thing the

501
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: first thing the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter cited also the first

502
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: thing the l Paso Walmart shooter cited, which is, uh,

503
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: this replacement theory, which is now like a we we

504
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: have to have a name that sounds serious around this

505
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: ship that is just straight up white supremacy. And wait,

506
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: people are should be left to rule without any anybody around,

507
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: like they should be protected by laws and if they're not,

508
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: they're going to murder people essentially. Yeah. Yeah, it's I'm

509
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm curious so many things. I'm curious if the Democrats

510
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: use this again, like another thing where they're like, well,

511
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: at least we're not them and not offer any solution. Yeah, yeah,

512
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, or if we're going to see I mean,

513
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: we've already seen conservatives double down there. There's some Republicans

514
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: who are already saying things like this was a false

515
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: flag event, you know, put together by you know who,

516
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: George Soros type ship and continuing to try and you know,

517
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: pretend that there is no there there. Um. But I

518
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 1: mean yeah, as it stands, I'm like mmmmmmm um. Like

519
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: I you know, Dick Durbin said, you know, like we

520
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: need we need increased gun control, and I'm like, yeah,

521
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: that's true. But are we I'm talking are we talking

522
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: about the real engines that's driving this violence to like

523
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: guns or guns make like the problem worse because that's

524
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 1: the environment that these people are in where they have

525
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: access to guns. But these people where they are turning

526
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: is from their radicalization, whether that starts at home or

527
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: online or whatever. But this is white supremacist terror, and

528
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: I think the lone wolf ship I'm tired of hearing

529
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: that there's like there's a total media, you know, ecosystem

530
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: for these people to like learn from each other, get radicalized,

531
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: shareship with each other. It's just a very I think

532
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: Disingenue was like description of this problem that is just

533
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: clean day. Yeah. I mean there's there's the like the

534
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: the the parts of of the story that I've been

535
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: like kind of avoiding for like my own rage in

536
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: the sense of like yeah, yeah, like being being a

537
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: violent like white man. Somehow it's there's a force field

538
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: around your body, like you're just nothing can never happen

539
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: to you. Like the idea that like this man, this

540
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: man told Dana Nett what he was gonna do, wrote

541
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: it down on the paper and then drew on his

542
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: gun and then live stream the thing and somehow another

543
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: there's still a question about this man's motives and the

544
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: fact that he that he didn't get shot on site

545
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: like this, like you you have a your you're a mutant,

546
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: like you have a force field like that, Why are

547
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: you not how are you able to actually be brought

548
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: to justice? So I'm like avoiding that part because it's

549
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: it's fresh trading, you know what I'm saying. But I

550
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: think you know the history of like what it meant,

551
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, all the way back to the sixes and seventies,

552
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: of of this movement being like we're gonna it's gonna

553
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: be a leaderless movement, totally decentralized, like there's no main figure,

554
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: so that as we enter, you know, act out these things,

555
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: we all seem like lone wolves because you can't track

556
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: how we've been talking to each other. The only problem

557
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: is we could track how you've been talking to each other,

558
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: and and that we know that this was your plan, right.

559
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: Not only that, I'm like it the replacement theory stuff,

560
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: Like the part that frustrates me about the media is like,

561
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: is the idea that like y'all acting like this ship

562
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: is new, like they haven't been telling us this is

563
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: the way they felt for a long time, you know

564
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that when people when the experts

565
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: were ringing, the ringing the alarms way back in two

566
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen, two thousand fifteen, two thousand and six, and

567
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: being like, hey, listen, we're not it for a civil war.

568
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: Were already in one. They're at war, don't you understand?

569
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: Like they're at they are believed they are at war.

570
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: And this was just yeah, listen to how they talk.

571
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: That's what you're trying to tell you. He's telling you

572
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: he had war because you think you have a fear

573
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: of becoming a minority. And it's like and you you're

574
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: also revealing your cards, which we already know who you are,

575
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: because it's like, well, what's so bad about being a minority. Well,

576
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: it's because you're assuming that the majority is gonna treat

577
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: you the way you treated minorities, you know what I'm saying,

578
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: So like that's why you'll want to be one. So

579
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, like the why y'all acting like y'all

580
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: know this is y're acting like y'all didn't know? Like

581
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: how you acting like you so surprised about this, you know,

582
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: because there's this thing of like never wanting to talk

583
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, it wasn't until the summer when

584
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: the media was like quite supremacy, like out loud. You know,

585
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: It's like, wow, that took decades to normalize the use

586
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: of that term was always racially charged or all this

587
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: euphemistic bullshit, and you know, now it's like we're we're

588
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: another thing. They they were unable to the media is

589
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: unable to say white supremacist terror. And if I'm them,

590
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: and if I'm if I'm those dudes, I'm frustrated. I'm like, fam,

591
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: we keep telling you where we stand, right, Like we're

592
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: telling you exactly what we think. What is y'all's what

593
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: is y'all's questions? Just what we're out here doing. I

594
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: wrote it, a live streamed it. What is your question? Right?

595
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: It's and that's I'm like, you know, that's I'm curious

596
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: to see what happens with the tone of like talking

597
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: about you know, Liz Cheney, right, who's a Republican who's

598
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: been ousted by her party, but she decided to take

599
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: the same approach, or at least the human one to

600
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: be like, man, this is a real problem within the

601
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: party has to be discussed, like this is there's too

602
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: much anti semitism, anti black race, and just all kinds

603
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: of seeing a phobia. It's bad. But I don't see

604
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: Republicans haven't take any interest in this in trying to,

605
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: you know, say, you know what, this is bad? This

606
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: is this the rhetoric that comes out of people in

607
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: the party here, from people on Fox News. It's contributing

608
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: to this environment because the message that's being sent to

609
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: white voters or white people who you know who are

610
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: conservatives are hearing, Oh, you see whether the immigrants are coming.

611
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: That's where the bus, where the baby formulas gone. That's

612
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: why you don't have a job. That's why the factory

613
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: shut down. It's that just feeding on itself. And there's

614
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: something really interesting on MSNBC. There's this guy who was

615
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: a Brendan Buck. He was an adviser to both speakers

616
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: Ryan and Bayner, right GOP Speakers of the House, and

617
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: he basically said, you know when he was asked like,

618
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: you know, what's the what what's what do the Republicans

619
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: have to do here? Like what do they need to

620
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: do to start getting things together, to start cleaning up

621
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 1: the house. And he said, it's kind of tough. And

622
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: he said something that I don't think he realized how

623
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: like honest it sounded. But he said, you know, Republicans,

624
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: they don't want to go after anybody else except Republicans,

625
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: and when you do that, you can't afford to lose

626
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: the racist vote. You just can't. Oh you can't. And

627
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: he said it in a way that was like pained

628
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I was like, that's all huh, Brendan

629
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: Buck He's an advisor. He was an adviser to Speaker

630
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: the House John Bayner and Tim Ryan. So Republicans speaks

631
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 1: like that's whose office he was in. And he just said,

632
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: that's the problem with the where the Republicans are going.

633
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: They don't care about independence or trying to bring anybody

634
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: else in. So all they have to do, and this

635
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: is what we talked about, these have to double down

636
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: on the racism because they cannot have that. That's money

637
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: on the table to them, and because the policies are

638
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: a certain way. That's why you always hear them having

639
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: to mainstream this ship, like whether it's at least deponic

640
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: who is a Member of the House from New York

641
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: who on Friday was saying the same ship, great replacement

642
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: theory type nonsense about they're just they're you know, it's there.

643
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: They've got us silent revolution happening, Joe Biden, where all

644
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: the immigrants are going to come in and that's who's

645
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: going to be voting. That's what America is going to be.

646
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: Without using the words, but you know that, like looking

647
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: at all of that, it's very difficult, Like Republicans aren't

648
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: going to touch it. And now at this point, I

649
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: feel like the way the media should write about them

650
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: be considering the rhetoric that comes out of there is like,

651
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, this is a group that's you know that

652
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: is a openly supports domestic terror. Yeah, there's nothing about

653
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: what they're talking about from what I'm looking from congress

654
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: people or senators or state senators or local legislators. You know,

655
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: they're they're saying straight up neo Nazi bullshit. Yeah. I

656
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: was gonna say, there's a part that's like visceral to

657
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: me in being like, you know, we're Callie kids. So

658
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't come from like a Jim Crow state.

659
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not from the Deep South of the

660
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: way that the type of racism I experienced throughout my

661
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: upbringing was not like something in that sort of world. Right, So,

662
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: so the part that you're bringing up about the Republican

663
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: Party is the part that like it's just is like

664
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: the trauma inducing like triggering thing for me, because it's like,

665
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, if you if you like I got I

666
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: got busted out to a suburban school. So when I'm like,

667
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: I know this little kid, I know, I know what

668
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: this boy is saying. You know what I'm saying, And

669
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 1: everybody else who is a person of color know exactly

670
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but you're not saying it, and they

671
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: could always fall back and be like, dude, what are

672
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: you talking about? Man? Like I didn't even say that

673
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: that that's not fair. I didn't even know. I didn't

674
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: say that, you know what I'm saying. And if I'm

675
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: trying to go to an authority figure again, I'm in

676
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm in the burbs. Like even if I try to

677
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: go to an authority figure, I look like I'm the

678
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: crazy one. It's like, you know, listen, you know, maybe

679
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: you guys need to work this out. You know, he

680
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: didn't say that. You know, that's how what he said.

681
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: You're putting words in his mouth. And I'm like, what

682
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: the you like? You really like so I'm stupid. Like

683
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: it's like and I just remember feeling like I'm so

684
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: you're treating me like I'm stupid. I flashed back to

685
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: the remember the right to life movement with that little

686
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: boy was like kind of grilling that Native American guy.

687
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: You guys remember that, Yeah, and how the It's It's

688
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: the part that's frustrating me the most is like the

689
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: ambiguity of his grin in the sense that like I

690
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: was like, I know that smirk to where it's like

691
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: you can't really say I did anything because I was

692
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: just standing here. I was just standing here smiling. What

693
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: do you mean I was being respectful the guy was talking.

694
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything. I just smiled, you know, And like,

695
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: but I'm like, you're you're right, I can't. But I'm

696
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: so frustrated because we all know what you're doing, you know,

697
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: And so to me, it's like that's what frustrates me

698
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: about the Fox News about about the Republican Party right now.

699
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, you you're gonna sit across and say,

700
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: but act like you don't know what you're doing that

701
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna be like, well, of course, we don't condone

702
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: a Matt shooting. What are you talking? See, that's why

703
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: we can't talk to you liberals, because you're always gonna

704
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: call us, you know, say that we're this this is

705
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: but nobody ever said that. You know. It's like okay, man,

706
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: yeah you did. You did say it, and we all

707
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: know what you're saying. It's that it's the it's because

708
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: what they're doing is they're acknowledging white supremacy in your

709
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: face without without having to use the words. That's what

710
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: that smile is that says you know what time it is? Yes,

711
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: like I can smile and guess what. You don't like this,

712
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: do you? And you know why? Because because we know,

713
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: we know the history of this place. That's why. And

714
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of this is. It's it's just

715
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: winking at it because people do know. But sometimes it's

716
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: it's just dog whistled enough to not fully get people

717
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: to be like, wait is this racism? Or you be

718
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: like yeah, that's right, that thing that I feel good

719
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: about again, like what is that thing I can't quite

720
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: put my finger on? And that's what they're doing. But

721
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 1: increasingly more aggressive ways and rhetorically more violent ways, which

722
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: is your only seeing this It only begin continue to

723
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: manifest into physical space. Yea, The just broader context, because

724
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: so the New York Times wrote this thing, wrote this

725
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: piece about the idea of replacement theory that made it

726
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: seem like kind of a new thing, like you were

727
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: saying prop and but they talk about it, you know,

728
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: tracing it back to like the tiki torches. So like

729
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: we go from the tiki torches, which people were laughing

730
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: out at the time and them saying like you will

731
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: not replace us, Jews will not replace us, and like

732
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: that was this you know, staggering kind of like I

733
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: don't know, people people were laughing at the time. Now

734
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: we have replacement theory, which they make it sound like

735
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: it's like a fucking college course, you know. You Now

736
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: somebody can say they can't afford to lose the racist vote,

737
00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: and I can't picture their career like being damaged badly

738
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: from saying that, like in the modern because he works

739
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: for conservatives, he's right, he's not trying to get a

740
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: job with you know, with AOC or some ship, and

741
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: it works in that group of people, and they're like

742
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: he's smart, you know, and like that's what it is,

743
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: Like he's smart. He's smart enough to know what the

744
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: dynamics are here this party stands for this. Unfortunately, part

745
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: of that coalition are racists or maybe fortunately whatever maybe

746
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: outward he says, unfortunately, but still we gotta cord him,

747
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: because that's the thing. But there's this paragraph of those

748
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 1: New York Times piece that basically just like runs through

749
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: the Democrats, like Bona fides on being tough on immigration,

750
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: that it feels like it's structured to be like a

751
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: counter to the talking points and like the supposed like

752
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: replacement theory, but it's like drenched in white supremacy and

753
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: like the ideals of white supremacy, Like they're like that,

754
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: I'll just read it. Democratic politicians have generally been more

755
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: supportive of immigration than Republicans, especially in the post Trump era,

756
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: and have pushed for more humane treatment of migrants and refugees.

757
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: But the number of immigrants living in the United States illegally,

758
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: which rose throughout the nineties and auts first, began to

759
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: decline under President Obama, a Democrat whom critics nicknamed the

760
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: deporter in Chief. There's no evidence of widespread voting by

761
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: non citizens and others who are ineligible, and while Mr

762
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: Biden has laid out plans to expand legal immigration, federal

763
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: agencies have expelled more than one point three million migrants

764
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: at the Southwest border on his watch, while continuing some

765
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: of the more restrictive immigration policies begun by former President Trump.

766
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: So it's like they're they're like fact checking them with

767
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: white supremacy. It feels like where like yeah and being

768
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: like no, no, we're good, We're we're with you. Yeah,

769
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: what's the problem. Why are you mad at him? He

770
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: did the right He did the thing he's supposed to

771
00:43:54,520 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: do to be you know about it. Yeah, that's my

772
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: my wife again, who like works in like Latino spaces.

773
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: She's always said that too. She's like, no, no, they know,

774
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: we are deported at the same rate, no matter who

775
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: in the office. You know, which is which is factual?

776
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: You know. But it's crazy the way that, yeah, the

777
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: way that they're kind of like playing that is almost

778
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: like you're they're saying it like it's almost like the

779
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: New York Times is saying it as if that's a

780
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: good thing. Well yeah, but that's like what are you

781
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: talking about? Like, well, no, they they're getting rid of

782
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: the brownies too, right, and that's who And I think

783
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: that's what it is. It strikes you differently, Jack because

784
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: you're not one of these people who's like, well, how

785
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: racists are the Democrats? Yeah? And is that good enough?

786
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, it's it's so revealing

787
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: that that's the the like for them, the steaks are well,

788
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: have they ticked to the racist enough box? Dude? The

789
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: xenophobia quota? Have they reached that? If they have, then

790
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: what's the problem. Why are you attacking them on that.

791
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: We've agreed that we can do that. And you know,

792
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: just again, completely terrible, terrible take to have going into

793
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: a story like this when again every outside observer or

794
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: anybody who studies, you know, these fringe movements are like

795
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: civil war type things are just saying inequalities driving all this.

796
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: You know that, right, Yeah, that's it. Inequalities. So that

797
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: the reason people are like this because they're there their

798
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: existence it feels so fraught. But again, because no one

799
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: is actually doing a good job of informing people, it

800
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: leaves a vacuum for people to fill it with all

801
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: this hateful bullshit, and you have people convinced that that's

802
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: the reason why, you know, the world is the way

803
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: it is. I don't know how angry you'd be, you know,

804
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: the granted there are people who are just violent, racist,

805
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: but there are also people who are really stressed out,

806
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: who have their backs against the wall financially and feel

807
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: like they're in a place where everything's working against them.

808
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: And someone offers you a tidy narrative as to what

809
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: that is and it's not necessarily revolutionary thought, then yeah,

810
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: that might be a better a better track for people.

811
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: And that's what's that's what's so funked up, is that,

812
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: like both sides aren't willing to tell people why the

813
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: funk their lives are the way they are, and they

814
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: can't and that's the problem, and that's why we're not

815
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: getting done. Yeah, you can't, because then the solutions, like

816
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: you said, it's like, well, we all understand crimes of survival,

817
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: like you you right, we get those you know what

818
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And in some ways, if that, if that

819
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: that survival instinct is tied to a supremacist field, and

820
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: then you already know what the answer is, I can't

821
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: survive if there's too many of these people. I'm going

822
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: to get rid of those people, sure, you know what

823
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that you you've now added like you're saying,

824
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: you've added another en road to something that somebody would

825
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: have thought was unthinkable, you know what I'm saying. So

826
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, I guess I'm kind of saying the same point. Like,

827
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: but if you you cut this movement a lot of

828
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: you you really slice the movement in pieces. If you

829
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: remove the access and the disparages, Like once you remove

830
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: that to where they're like, well, I'm actually living fine,

831
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: So I don't I now see this fool's move as crazy,

832
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, now I can see like, oh, yeah,

833
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: that's bonkers. Why would I want this? Yeah, Like, you know,

834
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: kids in Beverly Hills aren't. They're not They're not throwing

835
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: upsets because they don't need to the like. And I

836
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: think that's the basic thing. You look at what happens,

837
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: what inequality does to people, You have to look for

838
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: secondary means of survival, and a lot of that is

839
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: extra legal out of the time or whatever comes out

840
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: in these other ways, you'd become hateful, you turn that

841
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: hate outward or whatever. But it's it's just a really

842
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 1: it's just a really difficult thing to grapple with because

843
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: I think watching this black people in America are just

844
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: looking at the over and over again, saying yeah, well

845
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: ship man, they can do fucking anything all the time.

846
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: They got a force field. They got there. They're like,

847
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 1: you have a force field around your body, like you're yeah.

848
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: I always described being like white in America is like

849
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: having the star in Mario, because yes, you could fucking

850
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: walk off the side. You ain't dying. You walk through ship.

851
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: You're not they die. If anything, you don't have to

852
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: do ship. You're that You're like omnipotent at a certain point.

853
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: But all of this comes together in a really really

854
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: unsettling way. And you know, you look at already the

855
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: situation in Buffalo, that market because of it's now an

856
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: active crime scene. Those people in that area they have

857
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: to go miles away to try and find groceries now,

858
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: because we're already talking about an area that are just

859
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: not even that this is contributing to the shooting. But

860
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: there are so many levels of inequality when you look

861
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: at this problem. That's like just the place that it's in,

862
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: the fact that Tops didn't even want to open a

863
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: supermarket there because they're like, well, you know, demographically speaking,

864
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: this might not be it. And and those are the

865
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: neighborhoods where these terrorists are coming to to make them

866
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: feel less safe, to make them feel that they there,

867
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: they deserve less than has already been offered. And it's

868
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: not just obviously my heart bleeds for the people of Buffalo,

869
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: but all people who look at ship like this and

870
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: feel not safe and feel like there's no protection, they

871
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: feel like there's no solution. They feel like the people

872
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: that they're said, hey, I'm gonna vote for you because

873
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: this stuff's fucked up, and they don't do ship there,

874
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: which was oddly enough, on MSNBC right before they had

875
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: this roundtable discussion talking about this, they sent somebody to

876
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: upstate New York to talk to some voters, and these

877
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: black voters were all they said, oh no, they were

878
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. My bad, these black voters in North Carolina.

879
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: They said, I don't know if I can even vote

880
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: this year. And then like that was a thrust so like,

881
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: and we came to speak with these voters to see

882
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: what's going on, like why why the Democrats are doing

883
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: so bad? And you saw these two, these two black

884
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: dudes in the store and they just said, I don't know, man,

885
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: every time I vote, they say vote for me. And

886
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: then this thing is going to happening doesn't happen, Yeah,

887
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: like has been happening, and it's uh and there they're

888
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: like confused, They're not This dude wasn't even angry. The

889
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: person next to him was just exasperated to They're like,

890
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do, but every time I vote,

891
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing the ship that I'm being promised. And

892
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: you cut to this next thing on MSNBC and then

893
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: the host is asking if the Democrats have a branding problem. Yeah, like, yeah,

894
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: branding is the issue here, got it? Yeah, I'm it's

895
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: just like you, you at a loss because to everybody

896
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: else's solutions are so clear. Man. People need fucking help.

897
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: People need to feel protected, people need that the these

898
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: the scourge of white supremacy snuffed out of the country.

899
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: That's what they need, that's what that's what a movement

900
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: needs to look like. But again, because you have Democrats

901
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: who are like just sort of like the you know,

902
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: woke cousins of the racist, they're like, well, that's my

903
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: family though, you know what I mean, Like, I can't

904
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: push them too far too soon. Yeah what. Meanwhile, we're

905
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: gonna see this ship go over and over because their

906
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: cousins are saying the same ship over and over out

907
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: loud on TV, on Twitter, saying they're replacing us. You

908
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: know what when you see yeah, it's crazy like when

909
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: you say, when you keep revealing what you're the lines

910
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: you're not willing to cross, those that are willing those crosses,

911
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: willing across those lines get more in bolden. You know

912
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like you're in popular and you're like,

913
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: you said, I'm not gonna tell I'm not gonna tell

914
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: my racist uncle Dave nothing because I still kind of

915
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: need him. And Dave's like, where, Okay, well you just

916
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: told me you ain't gonna do nothing. Well what about

917
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: if I do this, are you gonna do You're still

918
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: not gonna do nothing? What if I if I take it,

919
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: still not gonna do nothing? Okay, well, man, it's the

920
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: same thing exactly what I mean. Then it's uncle. When

921
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: they're about to do some racist ship, their friend might

922
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: be like, what about your nephew. That's like, man, you're

923
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: gonna do exactly. And they keep it moving and they

924
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: keep going, and that's the that's the energy Republicans and man,

925
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: they're not gonna get yeah, and that's a dangerous mentality

926
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: to have, Like you know, when you've been in a

927
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: situation and you're like, now I'm gonna press up on stuffing,

928
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna I'm gonna do what the

929
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: funk I want to do, because you know what, no nobody,

930
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: no one canna say ship. Yeah, that's then you're you

931
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: got that debo mentality. The white supremacists have been testing

932
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: the fences and they're like, oh, these these are fucking off.

933
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: He's at this point, they're pretending to test the fences

934
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: and they're sneaking in every night, right, yeah, oh yeah.

935
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: Maybe the test is if they're like, man, don't worry,

936
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: this is performative. Get in there. Get in fine, they

937
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: get in there. Yeah, yeah, all right, let's take a

938
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back.

939
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: And we're back, and you know, we talked a few

940
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: months ago about how Law and Order was back on

941
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: the air and debuted with a somewhat baffling story about

942
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: the murder of basically it was Bill Cosby. It was

943
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: a Bill Cosby type, but basically massive celebrity who was

944
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: found to be a serial sexual abuser. Um is then murdered.

945
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean they Law and Order has always

946
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: pulled from the headlines, but like from the headlines, Yeah,

947
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: it feels like they're taking some liberties and also so

948
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: taking some liberties with the writing and not spending a

949
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: lot of time on the research front. Uh and and

950
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: some of these so there's like they're just it's it

951
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: feels like somebody, somebody's given them an assignment, like all right,

952
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: we need one about Sackler's, one about Anna Delvy, one

953
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: about have Anna syndrome. And man, I mean it is

954
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: some of these plots are what I would come up

955
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: with if like I had two minutes essentially, So, um,

956
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: there's a a murder of a So annadel V is

957
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: the subject of that Netflix show. She was a con

958
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: artist who basically convinced Busch people she was a socialite,

959
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: but she was actually a con artist. So it's it's

960
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: entire genre of shows, the con artists show basically. So

961
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: in this episode of Law and Order, they're like, yeah,

962
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: she gets killed, So there's a murder of a Delv type. Now,

963
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: they also were like, oh, we need to get three

964
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: of these in by week five, and so we're gonna

965
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna double upright here. The murderer turns out to

966
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: be the opioid addicted nephew of a big pharma ceo,

967
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: who admitted to the nephew that he knows that oxy

968
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: is addictive, and so Okay tries the ceo for manslaughter

969
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: with the strong out murder nephew as the star witness.

970
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: And wait, they forget about the original murder because they

971
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: couldn't there wasn't enough evidence. I'm sorry, So they got

972
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: somebody murking a lady and then he's like, hey, I'll

973
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: give up my uncle who runs a big pharmaceutical company,

974
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: like perfect, and you only killed a national villain, so

975
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: we're good. We're good. It's like it's like that logic

976
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: at the end of like action films, where like someone

977
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: is like, well, I killed the guy that was actually

978
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: framing me, and you saw me kill them, but you

979
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: knew what they were framing, so it's all good, right,

980
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: They're like great, yeah, yeah, go ahead, right off in

981
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: the sunset, hold on, just doing the math and yeah, yeah,

982
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: it's always that carry the one and yeah, like the

983
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: heroes like on a gurney, like near an ambulance with

984
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: like a blanket on and yeah, you went through a lot, kid,

985
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: But hey, I was like that in the detectives, like

986
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: I got that one wrong, huh, even like killed seventy

987
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 1: people on the way here, Yeah, comes up and tries

988
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 1: to kiss them like sorry, I'm a one woman man.

989
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: So good. It's like you put every I just feel like, yeah,

990
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: Law and Order just like puts words on torn pieces

991
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: of paper and throws them in a hat and shakes

992
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: the hat and then it's like, all right, guys, five

993
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: words make a sentence, you know, and then and then

994
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: that's it. And this was Those were just the three

995
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: that came out of the hat. The like opioid murder

996
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 1: con artists, boom done. The next ripped from the headline show.

997
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: This one was hyped up. Is like the d A

998
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: finally like loses one. This is the rocky one of

999
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: Law and Order episodes where the d A like doesn't

1000
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: come out on top. And the problem is that they have,

1001
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, always popular on TV and in movies, not

1002
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: actually very useful or not actually very successful in court.

1003
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: Is the I think it's like in movies it's called

1004
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: the sanity defense, you know, and it's it's just constantly

1005
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: it's like I'll just claim insanity and the jury is like,

1006
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: at we we can't do anything with that, And in

1007
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: reality it doesn't work like that, but in this episode,

1008
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: so it's called Severance. The episode not to be confused

1009
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: with the Apple series Severance or the other Law and

1010
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: Order episode from titled Severance. They're now repeating episodes. There's

1011
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: just too many shows. That's the more of the whole sections,

1012
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: just too many Law and Orders. The disorder or like

1013
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: the mental state that drives this person to murder is

1014
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: one that we've talked about before on this show. And

1015
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: if you were paying attention during those episodes, you're you're

1016
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit surprised. Where so this is

1017
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: his ex girlfriend testifying about the guy who murdered. Colin

1018
00:57:52,480 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: was always really kind and gentle, but over the past

1019
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: year or so, he started getting angry, having violent outbursts.

1020
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: The smallest thing would set him off. Stuffer from from

1021
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: whole commania. He was like a different person. I even

1022
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: considered I even considered leaving him at one point. I

1023
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: feel terrible. I didn't realize it was the Havana syndrome. Oh,

1024
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: straight from the headlines into your heart, bro. They could

1025
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: it could have been CTE. It could have been something

1026
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: that like, you know, yeah, he's got a lot of

1027
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: he's not a lot of concussions. Well Man said, Havana syndrome.

1028
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: So he claims his year long years a long struggles

1029
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: with Havana syndrome led him to blackout and murder someone.

1030
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: And he says in the show, and this is a

1031
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: direct quote, it wasn't me, it was the symptoms. Okay,

1032
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: hold on, now are they researching this? He was found

1033
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: not guilty by reasons of mental disease, so no, they're

1034
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: not researching it. This is good. This is too many

1035
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: shows because you're out of ideas, guys, You're just out

1036
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: of ideas. Yeah. So if you take every claim of

1037
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: Havana syndrome at face value as true, like I do

1038
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: believe that people suffering from it do have the symptoms

1039
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: they have claim they have. I don't think anyone's sitting

1040
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: back making it up other than this law and order character.

1041
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: But this is they they don't have the symptoms, right, Like,

1042
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: they don't even have like the general family of It's

1043
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Speaker 1: like claiming that, like chronic fatigue syndrome made you kill someone.

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Speaker 1: It's like the thing that the people have is like

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Speaker 1: it makes you like dizzy and sick and have you know,

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Speaker 1: all sorts of issues, none of which is like it

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Speaker 1: makes me in right, So yeah, it's such a bad

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Speaker 1: faith like addition to the conversation around Havana syndrome because

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Speaker 1: it didn't miss diet, like just doesn't even misstates what

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Speaker 1: Havana syndrome is or what people claim it is. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, just like that that kind of yeah,

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Speaker 1: bad footing from that point for she drops it like

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Speaker 1: it's a bar like it's such a build up, right,

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Speaker 1: and then it's and I'm like immediately taken out the

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Speaker 1: moment when she was like an a syndrome, Like wait what,

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Speaker 1: like you know it's it's yeah, I know what you

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Speaker 1: mean one of those like like like a nas verse.

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh ship, he was the gun time, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the right, but it's not a bar fam like what

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01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: or like the Immortal Technique Dance with the Devil at

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Speaker 1: the end, You're like, wait what that was your mom

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Okay, this song isn't better because

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Speaker 1: of that, but alright, syndrome it was it was his

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Speaker 1: syndrome that did it, But me it was a syndrome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, not not a good way to you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know unless the State Department is like,

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Speaker 1: hey man, we'll we'll pay you to like really make

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Speaker 1: this seem like it's like a terrible thing that makes

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Speaker 1: people killers, so we can kind of go down that's

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Speaker 1: the road to get aggressive with nations that we suspect

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Speaker 1: for being behind a Vanda syndrome. But this really does

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Speaker 1: read like terrible, lazy writing. And you just took I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it's a syndrome. And if people's heads were ringing,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Drake keep their heads ringing and let's

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Speaker 1: just say there. They just called Avani syndrome. It's fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: nobody knows what is anyway. It has most in common

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Speaker 1: with vertigo, do you do we think that the Lawn

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Speaker 1: Order writers like just know that there's a Hitchcock movie

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Speaker 1: called Vertigo, and they're like, in Vertigo is the Killer

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Speaker 1: and that one. So I think we know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: It's like Jaws the Birds Vertigo. Vertigo just makes makes

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Speaker 1: you kill. It's definitely. Ah, I feel like what you

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Speaker 1: said earlier where it's like I just need to turn

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Speaker 1: the thing in. Yeah, right, Yeah, we gotta turn it

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Speaker 1: in guys. Yeah, we're on deadline, like and then yeah

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Speaker 1: we find out that character, It's like, what do you do? Oh?

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Speaker 1: He was a youth basketball coach, So how did he

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Speaker 1: get harvenus intro? You know, he just got it because

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Speaker 1: he was I don't know, I think you know it's

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Speaker 1: it met someone who had been in Havanna. He was

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Speaker 1: coaching youth basketball and Little Havana, Miami. Yeah, like that's

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Speaker 1: where it came from. That's yeah, exactly, like we got

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Speaker 1: to look into Little Havana. Dang. Well, anyways, I'm now out.

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Speaker 1: This is the most I've paid attention to a season

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01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: of Law and Order as it was happening in my life.

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Speaker 1: So maybe they got exactly what they wanted. But PROP

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Speaker 1: as always truly a pleasure having you on the show.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

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Speaker 1: So honored to be here. Prop hip Hop is the

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Speaker 1: website and social media, uh yeah, prop hip hop dot

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Speaker 1: Com and all my prop hit props. Also, we do

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Speaker 1: a day party every first Sunday in Long Beach called

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Speaker 1: Real Ones really dove DJ's cool drinks, really good vibes,

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Speaker 1: and the best part is it's over by eight pm.

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Speaker 1: You go home. Yeah, so pull up on me jone

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Speaker 1: fits is the next one? Okay? Amazing? And is there

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Speaker 1: a tweet or some of the work of social media

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Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Man, there's it's not like I know

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01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: this is I know this. I didn't understand the assignment.

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Speaker 1: But here's here's my answer to that. It's not there's

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Speaker 1: there much that I've been enjoying it. It's that I'm

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Speaker 1: there's a social media thing that I'm sort of dreading

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01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: that's going to make me enjoy. So I'm dreading the

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Speaker 1: five thousand think pieces that are gonna come about Kendrick

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Speaker 1: Lamar's record, right, So I'm dreading that my whole timeline

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Speaker 1: is going to be full of that. But the part

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Speaker 1: that I'm going to enjoy about this is the fact

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Speaker 1: that he's not going to respond in any way, right Right,

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01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: He's like good or bad, you're not gonna hear from him.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna go on tour and then go home. So

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like it was like, no, I do

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Speaker 1: my thing. It's a one way conversation. A lot of

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Speaker 1: the times, Yeah, I said what I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: so what do you mean when you said this? In

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Speaker 1: that song. Well, I I said what I meant, it's

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Speaker 1: in the song. You can read it, is there any

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Speaker 1: can you get any nuance side of that? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't really listened to I just sure, Yeah, it'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting though. Yeah, I'm surprised i've I've if i've,

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Speaker 1: my timeline has not been just uh up up in

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Speaker 1: uh you know, all just all kinds of think pieces

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Speaker 1: quite yet, but yeah, I'm just like they're coming. They're

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Speaker 1: not there yet, but I'm like, I know that it's

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Speaker 1: a long album. It's a long you're gonna need Yeah,

1135
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: you need to say you need to sit with um miles.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What is the tweet you've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles

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Speaker 1: of Gray. Also the other shows, Mad Boosts the Basketball podcast. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, new episodes gonna be dropping Thursday. We'll be

1140
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: able to very special guests check it out. Uh they're

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01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: always special, but these are sometimes such a great name

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Speaker 1: to like, kudos to the name of the shows. It's brilliant.

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Speaker 1: It's a it was it was on a and one

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Speaker 1: T shirt I couldn't afford as a kid, So that

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Speaker 1: is I always kept that in my mind, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I want that shirt that has got mad boost got

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Speaker 1: mad Boost. Yeah, some tweets I like, let's see. The

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Speaker 1: first one I like is from kill. Joey McCoy at

1149
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: Let's Go Ao tweeted the reason why all cultures have

1150
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: mermaids is because drawing legs is hard. And I totally

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01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: felt that because man, when I used to when I

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Speaker 1: used to go, when I moved past stick figures, I'm

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Speaker 1: fucking hated drawing legs. Like I couldn't draw a feet

1154
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: they always look like mcbig old McDonald's, like Ronald McDonald's

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Speaker 1: feet was terribly So we need to come up with

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Speaker 1: we need a mythical figure that doesn't have hands, that

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Speaker 1: just has like when I was in yeah, when I

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Speaker 1: was in art school, that was a whole semester class

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Speaker 1: is hands and feet. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: again I would have been like, fucking man, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: just do another disembodied head drawing. I think more like

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Speaker 1: fine artists should start doing like there's there should be

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Speaker 1: a trend where just like great works like Mona Lisa

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Speaker 1: has Simpson's hands like just the four fingers or yeah,

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Speaker 1: one of these has a Simpson ear you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, just that because I learned, man, I damn

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01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: near and learned how to draw everything from a grainy

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Speaker 1: Like the years I used to draw were like Homer's ears.

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Speaker 1: Like I was like, oh, ship, that looks good, and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do like words seven squiggle that's a year. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: tweet that like, uh, let's see the other one. Noah

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Speaker 1: at Noah, don't care, tweeted as a quote, I was

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Speaker 1: born in two thousand seven. Sounds fake as funk. Nobody

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Speaker 1: was born that late bro. Sounds fake as nobody's late.

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Speaker 1: Nobody born that late bro. Let's see Adam serious brow

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Speaker 1: tweeting tweeted interviewer, what's your biggest strength? Me flattery interviewer? Okay,

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Speaker 1: and your biggest weakness me that smile interviewer given the

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Speaker 1: bashful face. Good And then p J Evans tweeted buying

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Speaker 1: a used car, how many honks does it have? Left?

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Speaker 1: Identify with? Not knowing ship about cars? Okay? Alright, sounds good, Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, let me just get a look under the hood,

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Speaker 1: not literally kick a tire, literally kicking tires. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O Brian. You

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Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're at

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Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan

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Speaker 1: page and a website, Daily zeit geist dot com, where

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Speaker 1: we post our episodes. On our foot note, we link

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Myles song to some people might enjoy. This is a

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Speaker 1: track called Two Chords and the Truth, and it's like

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Speaker 1: a really great I've never heard of these people, but

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Speaker 1: it's the art of it is my Elli Manzanza, and

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Speaker 1: there's other artists on here, Matt Dalden, Ashton Sellers and

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Speaker 1: a few others, and this is like I don't know

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Speaker 1: this is this is a band, but the guys playing

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Speaker 1: like jazz as guitar, kind of like Grant Green sort

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Speaker 1: of jazz guitar, but the drummer is playing very like

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Speaker 1: off kilter, like wonky, like almost j Dilla like wonky drumbeats. Um.

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Speaker 1: So it's a very interesting like I like when live

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Speaker 1: bands like really referenced hip hop a lot, but then

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Speaker 1: also like stay true or whatever their expertise is on instrument.

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Speaker 1: So again this is called Two Chords and the Truth.

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Speaker 1: But the artist, the main artist is my l A

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Speaker 1: m y e l e man Zanza m A n

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Speaker 1: z A n z day. All right, we'll be liking

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Speaker 1: off to them in the footnotes. The Daily Zeka is

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Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. From more podcasts from

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Speaker 1: my heart Radio, visit the i Heart Radio app, Apple podcast,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is

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Speaker 1: going to do it for us this morning. About We

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Speaker 1: are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you all abo bye bye