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Speaker 2: years in the league, working over in the planet Houston

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Speaker 2: with the Rockets, these days, going to define the archives

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Speaker 2: of the Opinion Eating seven Footers podcast. He's a man

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Speaker 2: about tow. What's going on, mister Hollins?

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Speaker 1: What's up brother? How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: It's another day to be great, right. We got Iowa,

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Speaker 2: Sam here, we got Shay, we got Ilo. The team

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Speaker 2: assembled and ready to bring greatness to the world. And

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Speaker 2: as my late uncle one said, everybody's a mother. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: ponder that as you will. But I've got a quote

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Speaker 2: that I think is going to define the day. We

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Speaker 2: got to start off with the right frame of mind.

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Speaker 2: And I want to jump off with this because you know,

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Speaker 2: rookie mini camps for the NFL. Not that we're going

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Speaker 2: to do a ton of NFL talk. It is, after all,

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Speaker 2: the second week of May and the playoffs are in

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Speaker 2: full effect. But I think this is a quote that

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Speaker 2: we should all jump out of bed with.

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Speaker 3: Three thirty four in the morning, woke up, stared straight

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Speaker 3: at the ceiling and said to myself, it's not just

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Speaker 3: another day, it's two day. And maybe that's just another

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Speaker 3: way of saying, attack this datement an enthusiasm unknown a mankind.

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Speaker 2: But there you go, Jim Harbaugh addressing his feelings about

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Speaker 2: the first day of rookie mini camp for the Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles as Chargers. And you know what, that's the way

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Speaker 2: to attack a day, because we got another opportunity to

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Speaker 2: be great.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Allins, Hey, I'm right, I'm right on with you, man.

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Speaker 1: We're coming out firing out the gates. And like you said, man,

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Speaker 1: there's no better time NBA playoffs among us lots to

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Speaker 1: talk about.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have to ask coming off of that Harball

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Speaker 2: quote though, you know, first day of camps rookie camps

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Speaker 2: say back in the NBA, like did you get anything

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Speaker 2: of that that he'll like, hey, you know we're here,

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Speaker 2: kick ass blah blah, or is you know, it's just

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Speaker 2: kind of like, all right, you guys know what to do.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I feel like as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: The point is you said, as a rookie, I feel

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Speaker 1: like the other guys knew what to do. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know what to do. So as a rookie, you're you're

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Speaker 1: kind of like you don't know what you don't know,

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Speaker 1: so you're asking more questions at the end of the

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Speaker 1: day and just kind of trying to figure things out.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you really don't know as a rookie, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, don't mess it up.

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Speaker 2: That What was the biggest challenge, like, was what was

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Speaker 2: the thing that you had to adapt? Right, because I

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Speaker 2: mean you played at UCLA. I mean we're talking vaunted, hallowed,

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Speaker 2: you know, legacy program, so obviously best of the best

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Speaker 2: in everything, so you know, getting that that call and

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Speaker 2: starting at the next level was what was the thing

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Speaker 1: I think for me that there was a business. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny, like you kind of take it

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Speaker 1: over and it's like, well, he's worth seventy million, he's

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Speaker 1: worth one hundred million, he's worth twenty million. You're worth

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Speaker 1: three hundred thousand.

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Speaker 2: So you basically did what I do when I go

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Speaker 2: to Disneyland or a theme park. Count I count heads

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Speaker 2: as money, all right. That guy paid a hundred bucks

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Speaker 2: to get in here. That guy paid a hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: That guy's got three thousand dollars worth of merchandix in

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Speaker 2: that bag. And then you start adding up what a

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Speaker 2: day's revenue might be. Because I'm a nerd that.

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Speaker 1: Way, are you? Are you a fast passed guy?

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Speaker 2: By the way, Well, when I'm there, like, I don't

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Speaker 2: have a pass right now, I don't have an annual pass.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, the fast pass, the one

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Speaker 1: where where you get to cut of everybody in line.

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Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah yeah no. Like, look, I'm all about

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm taking Okay, I want to ask you something.

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Speaker 1: I want to know if I'm wrong about this.

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Speaker 2: But you can't let other people in. If you were

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Speaker 2: the guy standing in.

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Speaker 1: Line, I want to I want to ask you something,

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Speaker 1: a little confession.

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Speaker 2: Right, let's go at the Ryan Hollins on Twitter at

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Speaker 2: swollwod Dome at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, rest her soul. We took my grandmother to

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Speaker 1: Magic Mountain m HM, and she was in a wheelchair

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Speaker 1: and we wheeled our way to the front of mini lines.

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Speaker 2: Well, if she was legitimately in a wheelchair, Yeah, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: because that's the thing like that, that's the biggest thing

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Speaker 2: for theme park and theme park goers, I think one

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Speaker 2: of the big battles. And Shay's frantically shaking his head

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Speaker 2: up and down, going yeah, yeah, is is all the

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Speaker 2: policies where they're like because they just re released a

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Speaker 2: new policy at Disney that have everybody up in arms

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Speaker 2: as to how they're qualifying and going through different ailmen's disabilities,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. Because the abuse of that system was just

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Speaker 2: over the just drifting into a horrible place right to

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Speaker 2: where you know, you could ask for the cart you

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Speaker 2: could ask for the like, all right, you're a sixteen

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Speaker 2: year old and maybe you've got a leg brace on now,

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Speaker 2: look can't walk? I mean like you know Grandma that

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Speaker 2: you know you're enjoying the day with grandma and grandma's

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Speaker 2: legit in a wheelchair. Well you're together now if you

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Speaker 2: if one of you and Grandma go into the line

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Speaker 2: while everybody else is going and enjoying another ride, and

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Speaker 2: then you end up cutting past a couple hundred people

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Speaker 2: to get up by grandma, Yeah, that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: Well what happens is they direct you. Instead of going

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Speaker 1: I'm watching everybody's reaction after riding the ride and you're

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Speaker 1: essentially walking past them. But that's what they told me

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Speaker 2: Well, you can always just say don't you know who

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Speaker 2: I am?

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Speaker 1: No? No, I was nobody at this time. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think I'm in high school. That it would have

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Speaker 1: been like, don't you know who I'm gonna be?

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Speaker 2: Well, start singing I'm going to be somebody someday, the

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Speaker 2: old tramstrip song. While you're at it, all right, he's

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Speaker 2: ryding Hollins. I'll buy carbon, all right, Obviously, we've got

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Speaker 2: a lot of NBA talk today, playoffs in full effect,

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Speaker 2: a lot of storylines emanating from the games. But I

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Speaker 2: want to start with Boston and Cleveland yesterday. Thirteen point

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Speaker 2: win for the Celtics, another road victory, and what's become

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Speaker 2: a hallmark under the Joe Missoula administration is on the

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Speaker 2: road phenomenal. What are they eighteen and seven or something

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Speaker 2: to to that effect. At Halton they're a five hundred team.

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Speaker 2: We saw a blowout Game one, blowout Game two the

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Speaker 2: other way. Game three, they distanced themselves right and Cleveland

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Speaker 2: made it interesting to at least keep fans in the seats,

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Speaker 2: and if they were still selling beer, they got a

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Speaker 2: little more revenue because nobody left like they did in

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Speaker 2: Boston in Game two with like seven or eight minutes left,

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Speaker 2: because you saw a little bit of heart and determination

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Speaker 2: to battle back. But were you really scared they were

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Speaker 2: gonna blow that lead? I don't know. Maybe if you're

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Speaker 2: a Celtics fan you've seen it a couple of times,

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Speaker 2: but otherwise it was kind of a what do we say,

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Speaker 2: a little play with your food kind of moment in

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Speaker 2: terms of, you know, a pressure applying that pressure. But

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Speaker 2: coming out of Game two, as we talked about a

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Speaker 2: little bit last week, that sense of urgency, Ryan like

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Speaker 2: when we watched these guys, I mean Jason Tatum took

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Speaker 2: to the podium a couple days ago saying, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: you call us a super team. It expected us to

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Speaker 2: win by twenty five a day, Like, No, we just

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Speaker 2: expect consistency of effort because you won the conference by

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Speaker 2: what thirteen games?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, here's the thing with Boston and you brought

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Speaker 1: it out. They're so hot and cold. And of the

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Speaker 1: three teams that stood out this year and my Rockets

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Speaker 1: played was the Nuggets obviously because they're world champions and

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Speaker 1: they can turn it on when they want to. How

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Speaker 1: are they playing the timber Wolves because they're just they're huge, man,

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Speaker 1: They're huge. And I think where everybody saw it the

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Speaker 1: and said, oh, we got to respect this ball club. Man.

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Speaker 1: They're extremely deep. And then Boston. And when Boston's rolling,

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Speaker 1: when they're hitting threes, they're out in transition, they're sharing

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Speaker 1: the basketball, you feel like there's literally nothing that you

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Speaker 1: can do against them. But when they're bad, when they're pedestrian.

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Speaker 1: You look at some of their losses this season, Mike,

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Speaker 1: they literally lost games teas to uh to. I mean

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Speaker 1: just just I mean Charlotte back to back. If I'm

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Speaker 2: Go into some of those runs. Yeah, I mean that

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Speaker 2: It's like, all right, here's all these great games and

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Speaker 2: then you play a bunch of also rans and you

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Speaker 2: just give them away. With the Celtics, it's been the

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Speaker 2: same case. You just would motivation to play the full

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Speaker 2: full schedule.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you wouldn't expect that with the team that's going

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Speaker 1: to be competing for a championship. But we can glean

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Speaker 1: back to say, you guys shoot a lot of threes.

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Speaker 1: When the threes don't go in, there's not too many counters.

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Speaker 1: So because the counters aren't there, that's where you're going.

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Speaker 1: What's the second option? You gotta have some type of

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Speaker 1: second option option, and you're really not seeing that with Boston.

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Speaker 1: So the concern is, Okay, shots not falling, what else

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Speaker 1: are we going to go to? And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's it's post ups. I don't know if there's

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Speaker 1: a you know, a little more ball movement. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure what the answer is, but you just haven't seen it.

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Speaker 1: And that's the real concern in Boston. It's not the talent.

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Speaker 1: It's not that you don't look around and say, man,

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Speaker 1: this is a ball cup that can play with anything.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, also, when they end up playing against

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference, I think they're really going to struggle

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Speaker 1: with size.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the biggest thing, right is if we're going

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Speaker 2: to look down the road and we've got the fun

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Speaker 2: and excitement that is Nick Pacers that we'll get into

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Speaker 2: in earnest in a little bit. The war of attrition,

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Speaker 2: who's left standing in the Tom Thibodeau battlefield is really

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Speaker 2: kind of where it's at at this point. You can

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Speaker 2: liken it to whatever military film you like or cop

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Speaker 2: dramas of course, as these are the last guys we

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Speaker 2: have to do to take down this whole ring that's

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Speaker 2: taking over a city kind of thing. But you know,

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Speaker 1: be and will be no questions about that shot.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I certainly. Look, you have to appreciate

429
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Speaker 2: what the Knicks are bringing at this point, as much

430
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Speaker 2: as it pains me to say in my five day

431
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Speaker 2: a week role alongside Jason Smith, is that they're damn likable. Yeah,

432
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 2: Hart has a bit of villain in him, but even

433
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: some of the stuff he had to say right when

434
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Speaker 2: asked about the minutes he's being asked to play every day,

435
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Speaker 2: he goes, Look, people get up and do twelve hour jobs,

436
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Speaker 2: Like I can't complain. I'm playing basketball and making a

437
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Speaker 2: good living doing it and entertaining et cetera. Kyrie Irving

438
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 2: after the game, you know, after that Dallas four point

439
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: win yesterday, same he echoed the thought. He goes, Josh

440
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Speaker 2: Hart said it for all of us, and that's how

441
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: we all should be approaching this game, which you know,

442
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: the appreciation of it but you know, more so just

443
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Speaker 2: from the side of as contested as this is.

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Speaker 1: Ryan.

445
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Speaker 2: You know, when Rick Carlisle does the seventy eight look,

446
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 2: it was the best thirty five thousand dollars he spent.

447
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say they suddenly got a ton

448
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Speaker 2: of calls, but seemed like that got quieted down and

449
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 2: winning will do that. But when you're looking at that

450
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Speaker 2: after two games, has become seemingly the focus of your squad,

451
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: that would be a little concerning. But now that you've

452
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Speaker 2: got a two to one and a game four at home,

453
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: and let's face it, the Knicks they're depleted, and they

454
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Speaker 2: got twenty four points off the bench unlikely twenty four

455
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Speaker 2: points from McBride and Burks in Game three. But Ogianinomi

456
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: a walking through that door, and he was the guy,

457
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Speaker 2: along with Brunson, who really made this team work in

458
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Speaker 2: the second half of the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, without og I think I'm gonna have to favor Indiana.

460
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Speaker 1: I know people probably don't want to hear that, and

461
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: the reason being he's a position that they don't have.

462
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: He can match up and really cancel out Pascal Siaka

463
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Speaker 1: on those two former teammates, they know each other's games

464
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Speaker 1: quite well. But he's their X factor and that's why

465
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Speaker 1: they were so aggressive at the trade deadline to go

466
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Speaker 1: out and acquire him because they don't have anything like him.

467
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Speaker 1: And as you mentioned earlier in the show, what's the

468
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Speaker 1: challenge with New York those high volume of minutes that

469
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Speaker 1: they're playing, You know, can they keep it up? Looking

470
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Speaker 1: around the NBA and unfortunately, this playoffs is determined by

471
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Speaker 1: a lot of injuries. Man, we are missing, dude, a

472
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Speaker 1: multitude of stars. No Kawhi, Leonard Drelling, Beid was hampered,

473
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Speaker 1: Giannis out to Cupo, it was out, Damian Lillard miss games. Okay,

474
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Speaker 1: you can just go down the list. No Randolph, right, Julie,

475
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Speaker 1: excuse me, Randall, No Julius Randall for New York. So

476
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Speaker 1: there's a number of players that are missing. And for

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Speaker 1: New York, you're scared. Man. As we talk about ogn

478
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Speaker 1: and Nube being being out, man that that could be

479
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Speaker 1: the X factor in the series. And you look at

480
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: teams that kind of play their strength in numbers, like

481
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Speaker 1: Indiana has depth. Okay, we talk about Boston and Jason

482
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Speaker 1: Tatum not taking all those shots, but guess what, he's

483
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Speaker 1: gonna be healthy because the load that's put on him

484
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Speaker 1: is not the same as the rest of the teams

485
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Speaker 1: or the rest of the stars in the NBA. He's

486
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Speaker 1: gonna be fresh come you know time, Championship time if

487
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Speaker 1: they do make it out the easton, which is looking very,

488
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Speaker 1: very very doable. Yeah, it seems like, hey, the question

489
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Speaker 1: war so for Boston would be why wouldn't you make

490
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Speaker 1: it out at this point?

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Speaker 2: No, that's it, right, it's a war of attrition. In

492
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Speaker 2: the last couple of years, we've certainly seen that. And

493
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Speaker 2: that's one of those handwringing things if you're the NBA,

494
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: because you know, you've adopted the rules where you've got

495
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Speaker 2: to play sixty five to be eligible for awards, and

496
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Speaker 2: some folks still bristled at that, which I think it's

497
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Speaker 2: kind of funny. I mean, you can still miss seventeen

498
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Speaker 2: games and be eligible for awards. But you look, you

499
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Speaker 2: guys agreed to it as a union. That's that's where

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Speaker 2: you're at. And if you're going to allow that to

501
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Speaker 2: be part of the voting for all NBA teams, you

502
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Speaker 2: get what you get, but you know, and for contracts

503
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: to be decided by that in terms of max values.

504
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Speaker 2: But That's a discussion for another time. But going into

505
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Speaker 2: the playoffs, just one after another, right Milwaukee, you lose

506
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: Giannis and then Lillard's compromise. Just keep going down the line,

507
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Speaker 2: and so in our large media sphere, Ryan will do

508
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: everything they can to discredit whoever is left standing. But

509
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: it is a war of attrition, right. It is eighty

510
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: two games plus. However many playoff rounds and games you survive,

511
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: and certainly the Knicks are testing the limits. But it

512
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: always goes back to the same idea of not all

513
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Speaker 2: minutes are created equal.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: We had our guy Rick buker Fs, one longtime basketball analysts,

516
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Speaker 2: about three years ago. He dropped the line on us

517
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Speaker 2: about Lebron minutes, which I now tell my daughter to

518
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Speaker 2: apply in the soccer field. You know, if the ball

519
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: goes out of bounds, there's no reason to run up

520
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: back up the court or get the ball back into play.

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Speaker 2: And if you could be a little slow to get

522
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Speaker 2: up or a little slow to move, that's an extra

523
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Speaker 2: minute on the court or on the pitch. That counts

524
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Speaker 2: just the same as the guy running full sprints. And

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Speaker 2: if you could buy that time and get towards the

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Speaker 2: finish line, a little bit less exhausted like your You know,

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Speaker 2: as you laid out, the Celtics will be able to

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Speaker 2: guess what do you read benefits in future rounds.

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Speaker 1: No, you're right about it, and you know it's funny

530
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: when you mentioned the Knicks. The biggest thing is that

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Speaker 1: they are playing extremely hard. I mean there's easy minutes. Yes,

532
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Speaker 1: you're your point, they're not Josh hart Is. I mean

533
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: he's crashing to the rim for those rebounds. I mean

534
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Speaker 1: they're they're they're banging in like they're just out tough

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Speaker 1: in teams. I mean, if you're in New Yorker, you're celebrating,

536
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: you're loving these guys. Man, they're iron men. But in

537
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: our reality, man, you just question, you fear, how long

538
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: can they keep this up? Man? How long can they

539
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: keep it up? Because it's it's it takes so much

540
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Speaker 1: out of you and you know, hats off the tips

541
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: tips got them there. There can be no complaints there,

542
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: but you do you just wondering, you fear how long

543
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Speaker 1: can they keep it up?

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's been fun to watch, and you know

545
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: there's that whole masterclass. I don't know if you've seen

546
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: the ads for this, you know where you get x

547
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: field matter experts teach you about whatever, investing, how to

548
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: cook a keish, all of those things and everything in between. Here,

549
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: learn some basic guitar with me and insert rock rock god. Here,

550
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: learn the drums with Ringo Starr. Like that's legitimately a

551
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: thing that you can pay to watch a class. I

552
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: want to watch a class of Josh Harten rebounding, because

553
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: any like dude is, you know, suddenly towering over people. Man,

554
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: you want to talk about a skill of finding the

555
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: basketball and reading the rim and reading opponents' bodies and

556
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: how they're moving. That guy's putting on a masterclass every night.

557
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: No, he is. And you know in the NBA, with

558
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: all these seven footers, all this size, Josh hart Is

559
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: just out there bodying guys and kidding all these all

560
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: these rebounds. Man, you're right, No, Josh hart h He's

561
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: an intriguing player. Man. He is tough as nails, and

562
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Speaker 1: I think he's just he's just taking his h you know,

563
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: the respect for to get his game to a whole

564
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Speaker 1: nother level. But to me, it's also intriguing that these

565
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Speaker 1: are the starting three on that Villanova championship team. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody who was looking at that Villanova

567
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: team and going as much as college basketball have been

568
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: watered down, that going, Man, these guys are going to

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Speaker 1: be a starting back court, you know, running through the

570
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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference and having you know, just just great success

571
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Speaker 1: in the NBA. Not that they wouldn't be good, but man,

572
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: these guys are balling and Mike, I don't know if

573
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Speaker 1: that's ever been done. Like, I don't remember three teammates

574
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Speaker 1: on the same team and playing and having this much success.

575
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: And this is I think is really cool because they

576
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Speaker 1: know each other's games, you know, they know each other,

577
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Speaker 1: you know, very well. There's a there's a comfort there,

578
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Speaker 1: you know. So hats off to Villanova. Man, it's got

579
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: to be really cool to watch. But I don't I

580
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: don't ever remember that before.

581
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Speaker 2: The follow up line is obviously, is Jay Wright overrated

582
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Speaker 2: and then they underperform? No?

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00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: No, I you I had to think about that for no, man, Jay,

584
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: righty kidding me? No, everybody says Villanova guy, Fellanova guy.

585
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: You know, they're like, they have the dribble drive offense,

586
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: they know how to play, they're tough, they're they're they're

587
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: smaller guys play big and they're physical and they do

588
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: things that big guys do. So it's like Villanova basketball.

589
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: So no, no, they're you can't take anything away.

590
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Speaker 2: I'm sports media. We we have to we have to

591
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: look for the downside. But you know a guy who's

592
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: always looking for the brighter side of life, as if

593
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: he's straight out of a Monty Python sketch. It's my guy,

594
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: Isaac Lohenkron. He's got what's streateding in our sporting universe.

595
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: I love Mike and Ryan.

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Speaker 6: I found something that is the opposite in this case

598
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Speaker 6: of the bride side. Coming up in just moments, I'm

599
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 6: going to play you something that is unprecedented in sports

600
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Speaker 6: that you are not to believe that coming up in

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Speaker 6: just a few moments. First of all, we start with

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Speaker 6: Game three at the Eastern Conference semi Finals on Saturday

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Speaker 6: night of the Boston Celtics wading at Cleveland what six

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Speaker 6: to ninety three for a two games to one lead.

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Speaker 6: In the Stanley Cup playoffs on Saturday night, the Dallas

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Speaker 6: Stars wanted Colorado four to one. In Game three of

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Speaker 6: the Western Conference semi Finals. The Stars take a two

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Speaker 6: games to one lead. Baseball Saturday evening the Los Angeles

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Speaker 6: Dodgers got a Grand Slam home run from ti Oscar

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Speaker 6: Hernandez and a five nothing win. At San Diego, the

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Speaker 6: San Francisco Giants got a Grand Slam home run from

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Speaker 6: Matt Chapman in a five to one victory over the

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati Rats. Now we're gonna take you to Perth, Australia.

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Speaker 6: Let's go for a championship women's boxing match on Saturday night,

615
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 6: as w BA bantamweight champion Nina Hughes squared off against

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Speaker 6: challenger Shanika Johnson. Now the fight went the distance, but

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Speaker 6: then when it was time to announce the decision, the

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Speaker 6: ring announced a man by the name of Lieutenant Dan Hennessy.

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Speaker 6: Lieutenant Dan, Lieutenant Lieutenant Dan Tennessy. Not well, Hennessey, right,

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Speaker 6: let's go. Hennessy might play into this. Lieutenant Dan Hennessy

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Speaker 6: announced the wrong winner. We're gonna play the whole thing

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Speaker 6: for you, and the commentators on the telecast you're going

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Speaker 6: to hear are Joe Tessitore and Tim Bradley.

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Speaker 1: Your winner. I'm the par majority decision and still.

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Speaker 5: A longsided scorecard.

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Speaker 7: Ninety eight ninety two favors Nina Hughes and holds a

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Speaker 7: majority decision to go to seven and zero and retain

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Speaker 7: her World championship on a night where Janika Johnson what.

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Speaker 5: This seemed like? She was in control down the stretch.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, Knackamora, who had that ninety eight

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Speaker 7: ninety two scorecard, will be the referee for Wolmachenko.

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Speaker 1: Fine Fine Kiley's Goes the Joe edition ninety six ninety

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Speaker 1: four Kamora ninety eight ninety two, Who do what my

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Speaker 1: majority finding out of the blue tarter?

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Speaker 5: Is this guy real?

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Speaker 1: Is this guy?

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Speaker 5: Lieutenant Dan Hennessy for real?

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Speaker 1: Funny here? Man?

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Speaker 5: I mean, what are we doing? Oh my good, what

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Speaker 5: are we doing?

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Speaker 1: What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: What are we doing? Back to you guys, because I

643
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: saw the referees reaction to all of it, and he

644
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: was confused as Elis said Lieutenant Dan Hennessy, I mean,

645
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Speaker 2: that's about as good as it gets. Now. I watch

646
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Speaker 2: him Hennessy at Isaac Logott drink responsibly at the Ryan

647
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Speaker 2: Hollins find me over at Swollendom. Coming up next, we

648
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Speaker 2: talk about you know, John Elway has a bunch of

649
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Speaker 2: car lots, or he has in the past. We had

650
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Speaker 2: the Reggie Bar growing up where's the greatest products for

651
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Speaker 2: sportsman and what would we put our names on? Because

652
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: one Hall of Fame pitcher, he's not there yet, but

653
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: he's going has a new product line that his teammates

654
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Speaker 2: are having some fun with. We'll talk about it next

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Speaker 2: year on Fox.

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Speaker 2: Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah, we got the

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Speaker 2: club up and going on a Sunday morning. Wherever you are,

662
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: you're now bouncing in your car, sitting at the breakfast table.

663
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: Maybe you've surreptitiously brought in your earbuds and you're listening

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Speaker 2: in services. I don't know where you are, but I

665
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Speaker 2: appreciate you being part of our family. Mike Harbon alongside

666
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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins here live from the tire Act dot Com studios.

667
00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 2: The Lieutenant Dan Hennessy has me going here. Ryan really

668
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: started a whole other thing with Iowa, Sam and I

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00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: back here. Did you hear what I say?

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Speaker 1: I want to know where the Hennessy comes from. I mean,

671
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: I can't look in it dead, but where's.

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Speaker 2: Oh we got a couple of Irish pubs. Uh, you

673
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: know Hennessy's here in southern California.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a Hennessy. It's not Hennessy.

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00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: No, No, it's just Hennessy's. I mean we could call

676
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 2: it Ohannessy's. If it's going to make you feel better.

677
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just drop the oh goodness exactly all right,

678
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: So product endorsements here, Ryan Hollins. One of my favorite

679
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 2: things when we see athletes get associated with brands. Sometimes

680
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: we scratch our heads. Sometimes just hey, I put my

681
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: name on it, right. We've got a lot of guys

682
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: that through the years that put their name on car dealerships.

683
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: They don't really have anything to do with it other

684
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: than you license the name and it gives it some credibility.

685
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: Maybe you go and shake some hands, kiss some babies

686
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: once in a while. Some of them. Yeah, it's it's

687
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: part of your overall portfolio. We've certainly seen, you know,

688
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: the fast food industry and guys and all their their holdings.

689
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: But when you actually put your name on something, right,

690
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: George Foreman with the grill because Holk Hogan didn't do it,

691
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: go on down the line, Clayton Kershaw's evidently got Kershaw

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Speaker 2: Beef coming out here, limited edition five hundred boxes of

693
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Speaker 2: meat from nine hundred or ninety to three hundred dollars,

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Speaker 2: you know, ground beef, sliders, meatballs, and all the way

695
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: down the line for heat to meat, et cetera. And

696
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: they randomly will pick, you know, whatever goes what's you know,

697
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 2: what's in the box kind of moment. His teammates had

698
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: some fun with it. But here's the tagline, No curve balls,

699
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: just beef. So the obvious question that flows out of this,

700
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Speaker 2: since we are pitchman tyraq dot com and all of

701
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: the the folks that we work with, the teammates here

702
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio, what would you put your name on?

703
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: Like if you had the product that says this is

704
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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins and I'm gonna sew my name on it

705
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: and there's my smiling mug next to it. I mean,

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00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: Kershaw's now give me a Texas kids. So he's got beef.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think for me, I put my name

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Speaker 1: on anything that's I mean, it's reasonable, classy, you know, doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But what defines Ryan Hollins is the question. It's

710
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: like the Passion Project, not the Hey, they've pitched me

711
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: thirty things, and none of them I find morally or

712
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: you know, just against whatever my family is.

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe something sports related. I don't know. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: I promise I'm very open to this. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I've taken one thing to narrow down and said hey,

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Speaker 1: this is me. So no, I'm open.

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00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: Let me give you mine. Like I'm defined by how

718
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 2: much coffee I drink around here and the type of

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00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: coffee I drink right that is would be the standard

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Speaker 2: of everything. Iowa Sam, I mean, you're a good Midwest

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Speaker 2: and folk like myself. Is there one thing that you

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00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: would attach yourself to that finds your being? Saying yes,

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Speaker 2: I wholeheartedly. Here's a picture of my mug, and I'm

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Speaker 2: willing to back it.

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Speaker 9: Maybe like a party supply shop or something that's that's

726
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Speaker 9: right up my alley.

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Speaker 2: I kind of dig that. Yeah, that lends to all

728
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Speaker 2: sorts of cake.

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Speaker 9: Iowa Sam's party City. I could do some real damage

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Speaker 9: in there.

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00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: Well. I mean, with the proper license thing and the

732
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: way the laws have changed, you can also get into

733
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: all sorts of party favors. Isaac Lohancrown, do you want

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00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: to jump in on this? Do you have any in

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00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: and out? How about you? Hollins?

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00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: What a burger? Wow? You won't let it go?

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00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: Oh this is an ongoing fight then yeah, I'm putting

738
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 2: together at disk track as we speak. Really, hey, put

739
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 2: that into chat GPT. See what it gives you. Oh

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00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: see what happened Isaac? Isaac just you know, just threw

741
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: down the gauntlet here, Ryan, so you might actually start

742
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: free verse before before.

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00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: Long, Isaac came out the gatesman throwing punches. Isaac's got well.

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00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: He also took a swig of whatever he was drinking too,

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00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: Like you know, if that was on camera, I mean

746
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: that was perfect. It just raised it up, like all right,

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00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: got my mug. Keith a Hernandez made made sure to

748
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: chime in in the social response saying, can't wait to

749
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: try your meat kersh. So yeah, positivity around, reserve your box.

750
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: So there you go, Hey, coming back, we get it

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00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: back into the NBA playoffs, a couple other series to

752
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Speaker 2: discuss as well as the big guys. He's Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 2: I'm by Karma. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Great Ings

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00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: and welcome back in It's our two of the program

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on a beautiful Mother's Day here live

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Speaker 2: from the tyrat dot com studios. Tyrat dot com will

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Speaker 2: tie the way tire buying should be. So happy Mother's Date,

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00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: all the moms out there. Whatever you've got for your

761
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: special day. I know the growing trend is just leave

762
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: me alone and give me my twelve hours, apiece, go

763
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 2: do something which is kind of cool. Spot is maybe

764
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: you'll take in a ballgame. Maybe you just need a

765
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 2: longer nap. I don't know. Whatever the case may be, However,

766
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: you get to celebrate your day. I salute you here

767
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: from the tire rack dot Com Studios, as I'm sure

768
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Speaker 2: my guy Ryan Hollins does as well.

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Speaker 1: Hew you do, buddy, I'm doing good, brother. How you doing.

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Speaker 2: It's a nice beautiful morning here. We've got our team assembled,

771
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: Shay and and we've got Iowa Sam, and we've got

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Speaker 2: Isaac Lohenkron who's throwing daggers at you about you know,

773
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: he's really got beef about beef. So you guys, I

774
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: don't know. We'll have to get you into the parking

775
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: lot and settle that if we get a pay per

776
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: view going you guys in.

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00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: Wait, no peace, No, that's a that's a.

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00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: Is that a big man basketball can't fight kind of

779
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: thing or all?

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00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: No, No, you got to know your limits. Man. We

781
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: all have to have limits. You know, there's some guys

782
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: you don't mess with. You see that look in his eyes?

783
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: There it is.

784
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: There, he goes, just trying to bait you. At Isaac Loangrod,

785
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: He'll be part of the nobody calls me Chicken at

786
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: Isaac Lohan Crown, part of the Angels City FC. A

787
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: little bit later at the Ryan Holland. See, I mean,

788
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: we got a little bit of organized chaos as we

789
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: get things rolling here on a beautiful Sunday morning, and

790
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: we get a couple more NBA playoff games. Hit the

791
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: rewind button to yesterday the Mavericks with the one hundred

792
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: five one oh one win over the Thunder. Another big game.

793
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Kyrie Irving and Luka Donc just combined for

794
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: forty four points and rebounds at twelve assists. Let's talk

795
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: about PJ. Washington for a moment, shall we, who suddenly

796
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: is becoming a scoring machine against this OKC lineup? What

797
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: changed her Ryan Hollins.

798
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: They needed a third option and PJ. Washington was the

799
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: biggest pickup of the trade deadline. You know when he

800
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: came over. The one thing that that PJ does is

801
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: he can stretch the floor. He's much better defensively than

802
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: you thought. And hats off to Nico and those guys

803
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: over there in Dallas, Man because that was a that

804
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: was a box office move that they made. And what

805
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: he does is allow Luca to feel comfortable having a

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00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: guy in the corners that's going to hit shots. And

807
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: that's been the difference in the series so far, is

808
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: just having a guy or guys. And it was hard

809
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: away in the last game, the game prior to that

810
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: to make those to make those shots because as you know,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie is going to get the attention, you know Luca's

812
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: going to get the attention. And now they become really

813
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: unguardable when the help is there.

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00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: I got to say one of the most entertaining memes

815
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: now with the requisite Benny Hill. You got to be

816
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: of a certain age to watch Benny Hill, but where

817
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: they'd speed up the film as they chase someone through

818
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: the town, usually after they did something that they probably

819
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 2: shouldn't have, but you know they did. You know, Yaggety

820
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: Sacks starts playing is was chet holmger and tried to

821
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: chase down Lively to follow him, so that that was

822
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Speaker 2: pretty fun.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He had twelve points off the bench, by the way,

825
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: did Lively as well? Eight of twelve from the foul line.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Tried to make him live there and look if they

828
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: two out of three ain't bad.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: When you're a guy, they're not expecting to hit at all.

831
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Speaker 2: But for the ok see thunder. I mean, the fun

832
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: of this lineup has been watching Shay Gillans Alexander become

833
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: the star that he is. Right finalists MVP vote finishes

834
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: with thirty one, ten and six Williams again Chet. The

835
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: chase is what folks will remember. Thirteen and eight only

836
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: five of nine from the field. They were ten of

837
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 2: thirty from three point range. The live and die from

838
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: three point range seems to be the big thing here

839
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: because you watched Dallas also Washington with Gafford out rebounding

840
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: them and getting out and giving Luca space to operate.

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00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Luca got it through the Nixon knacks, the

842
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: bruises that he has. It was a gutty performance. Man,

843
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: he's a tough guy.

844
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: How big is that bandage gonna get before we're done here?

845
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: Right? They better keep wrapping it up whatever it is.

846
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: He's gonna be our cumby by time it's done.

847
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Speaker 1: It's working. And I gotta confess. I can't let you

848
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: say what you said earlier without throwing a confession. I

849
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: pulled it lively before.

850
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: Having a guy chase you all over.

851
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I ran. I mean, I made my free throws.

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00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: At a certain point they stopped and.

853
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: I left you alone.

854
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like thankful. I was like, heck of hollins.

855
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: I was like cool, all right, cool, and you know,

856
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: I made my free throws. But for a while, you know,

857
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of the game, I went running away,

858
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: shaking it and jiving and move it.

859
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: I'm I gotta find the tape on this now.

860
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, man.

861
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 2: Look, we've seen you in Blockbuster movies, uncut gems, right,

862
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you're in there. You weren't dunking

863
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: anybody in that one though.

864
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: No, I did not know. I did not Did you

865
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: save my movie? Were you able to kind of check

866
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: that out a little more?

867
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: I know we have, of course, I now call it

868
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: a Ryan Hollins vehicle towards stardom, no question about it.

869
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: You're a man of many talents, Master Thespian. Okay, you

870
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: were actually just playing basketball. But you know what, you're

871
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: in a movie.

872
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: I'm in a movie. I'm in a movie.

873
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: That's it, and one that is you know, critically acclaimed,

874
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. I do have to go find

875
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: this video of you getting chased.

876
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, no, no, Legitimately, I went running around and

877
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: they couldn't catch me. It couldn't catch me. So I

878
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: mean I did shoot my free throws. That didn't make it.

879
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: I mean, like I kind of didn't know what to

880
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: do because I'd never been in a game and a

881
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: coach like, hey mc collins, make free throws. It was like, okay,

882
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: if you'd like, I'll take I got this, sure, I'll.

883
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: Take the free throws. Now, let me ask this right

884
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: because rules have been a lot of it. We talked

885
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: about Rick Carlisle a little bit last hour, not going

886
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 2: to belabor the point. Seventy eight calls that they grabbed

887
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: the video and sent to the league office. He got

888
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: five thirty five k. I don't know that we got

889
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: anything else in terms of communication from the league office

890
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: about it. We saw the well do We'll get into

891
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: Jamal Murray and his situation here coming up in a

892
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: couple of minutes, because that one I'm still questioning. But

893
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: while we get into take falls Ryan, you know where

894
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: we get into the discussion of it's an obvious situation, right,

895
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: and we we had in the knickt Sixers series a

896
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: couple of big plays where the Sixers got you know,

897
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: normally it's like, all right, that bump is gonna get

898
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: called because they're assuming the foul to send a guy

899
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: to the line or stop the clock, right, but the

900
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: whistle doesn't come. Hey, guess what. The Knicks make a

901
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: couple of plays that they go and steal the game,

902
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: and then we see the all right, well it's an

903
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: obvious take. But you know what, because he grabs his

904
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: jersey a little bit. Now he's gonna go to the

905
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: free throw line. I don't I don't get it, Like,

906
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 2: where where did we decide that we're we're changing out

907
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: the rules of engagement of all right, we understand what's

908
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: at play here versus now it's it's a shot and

909
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: two and the ball.

910
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a big change in the NBA. And

911
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: what happened was you got to give the NBA stars credit.

912
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: They're so smart and it's not just that they can

913
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: play ball. They know the rule book. So you had

914
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: guys like Chris Paul that would know, you know, hey,

915
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: your hand is in front of me, and if I

916
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: sweep through into a shooting motion, you got to give

917
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 1: me two free throws. Now Chris is smart enough where

918
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: he understood, now, hey, you know, I got to get

919
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: into the bonus before I make you know, you know,

920
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: take these bonus free throws. But now at this point

921
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: it's very hard to officiate. So everything is really on

922
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: the floor when it's sweet through, even if it looks

923
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: like a shooting motion, those for the most part are

924
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: called on the floor. Were before, you know, guys were

925
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: getting away with, you know, free throws in those scenarios.

926
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: So NBA officiating is tough. Men. I wouldn't I wouldn't

927
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: want to be a part of it at Oh well,

928
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: the toughest thing is for the league is, like I said,

929
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: players are so smart. I'm sure at one point in

930
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: time there was no such thing as a as a

931
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: stop sign or red lights, right, I.

932
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: Didn't have seatbelts as kid.

933
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, someone kept someone gets in a car accident

934
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: and keeps doing the same thing and running the light

935
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: or there's no light there, like, oh, we need to

936
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: think stop light. Like rules are made because people abuse stuff,

937
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: and NBA players were abusing stuff. So now you know

938
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: those rules are continually being changed.

939
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 2: And somewhere James Harden feels seen.

940
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: Dude, I call what it is. Stop it.

941
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: Come on, he was criminal offender number one.

942
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 10: If we're going to do a rankings list, intelligence brilliant,

943
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 10: Oh no, no, hey, Like general.

944
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: Tenet of the show that Smith and I do seven

945
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 2: to eleven Pacific time here Fox Sports Radio Monday through Friday,

946
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: is I can never faul to good strategy. I get

947
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: be mad about the results. I cannot like it because

948
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 2: it's against my team. But in the end, when you

949
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: pull back and you take the thirty thousand foot view, damn,

950
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: that's a good strategy. And for James Harden, it was brilliant.

951
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: Clock stopped gave everybody, as we called it earlier, the

952
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: Lebron moment of you know, if you needed a minute

953
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: to catch your breath and settle because you are playing

954
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 2: at thirty five thirty seven years or whatever, then you

955
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: were able to get that extra time. I can't fault it.

956
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: You know.

957
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: Folks can complain about it every way till Sunday, and

958
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 2: they have, and we've seen the rules change a bit.

959
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, the one with the take follow is the

960
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: one that is just most confusing to me. When suddenly

961
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: you decide to award the free throw and the ball out.

962
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: It's like we all knew what they were trying to do.

963
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: When did we go fine line it here?

964
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: Like that?

965
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: That's the one that gets me, though, Ryan, like the

966
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: shooting stuff, all of that, understand like trying to adjudicate

967
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 2: that in real time, because even the Brunson play from

968
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: Game three, right, he might have gotten hit on the

969
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 2: hand to where you could say, all right, that could

970
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: have been on the ground. It sure wasn't the magic

971
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: Johnson continuation of all right, I got hit. Now I

972
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: take a couple of steps and then I still can

973
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 2: finger roll it into the basket.

974
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: No, no, there's always you know, it's a fine line.

975
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: And again you know it's it's funny when me and

976
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: Quig were calling the games and there'd be a questionable call. Oh,

977
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm quick to say, there's a reason I played, and

978
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: there's a reason I'm sitting in this booth with you

979
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: because I can't do the officiating. Man hats off to

980
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: know what they have to do, what they're figuring out well, because.

981
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: They only get I mean, look, they have to try

982
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: to call it live guys moving quickly. It's why when

983
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: whenever we do the NFL, you know, analysis from our couches,

984
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: it's tough because we're getting the benefit of all these

985
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: replay angles. But since now in the NBA, you've got

986
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: seemingly every play can be reviewed, you know, except some

987
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: obvious things that don't. They get a little bit of

988
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: a cushion. I don't know how much it get grades

989
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: them up or down as it were. I'd love to

990
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: be in the room as they adjudicated the seventy eight

991
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: Rick Carlisles or do they just put that in a

992
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: bin saying it's been addressed.

993
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: No, you actually have. What you do have from a

994
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: team standpoint, is every single play that you goes across,

995
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: it's marked and you're looking for files. So there's video

996
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: saying the thing I almost want to say. It started

997
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: with Mark Cuban. Mark Cumban starts Synergy and that film

998
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: will be sent into the NBA and you'll have a

999
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: design report and say, hey, there are this many fouls

1000
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: that happen. The NBA will take it. The officials whatever

1001
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: their crew are behind the scenes deal the league and say, hey,

1002
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: we'll validate this. This guy was grabbed this many times.

1003
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: Once things get egregious, and speaking of this, I want to,

1004
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, comment on another note. Everybody complains about Lebron

1005
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: and the Lakers, you know, getting more fouls called than

1006
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: the entire league, or doubling. That's legit. If you see

1007
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: the way the Lakers player you watched them play by

1008
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: the way. A lot of people go crazy about it

1009
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: and just don't like Lebron. It's weird stuff. It is

1010
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: what it is. Okay, they play downhill, they're physical, and

1011
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: they draw a whistle. Okay, those are legitimate calls. Man.

1012
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: Those guys are hard to guard because they put you

1013
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: in predicaments defensively, so that's legit. They've earned that. But

1014
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: for the most part, the teams back to the point

1015
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: they send the reports. It's very detailed, and the league

1016
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: will come back and look at it. And much like

1017
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: as a player, we'd be in the locker room and

1018
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: we'd see a scouting report of teams. Hey, he likes

1019
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: to go left, he goes right. We're going to force

1020
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: things to the baseline. This is where the double comes

1021
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: from on this player, that player. The referees watched film

1022
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: and tape two because the games you mentioned, Mike, it's

1023
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: so fast. And for those who don't know, go get

1024
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: the front row seat just one time in your life,

1025
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: save up money, one time your life. I've a road seat, man,

1026
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: That is the best, right. And see how fast Mike

1027
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: am I tripping? How fast to those NBA athletes once

1028
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: you're down there on the floors. See see NFL is different.

1029
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: You can't go on the sidelines the NFL game, all right,

1030
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: that's a health hazard. But NBA you can get right

1031
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: up close to these athletes and see him.

1032
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: I had the blessing to do that once, long long ago.

1033
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: So having worked at Yah, who had storytime with Uncle

1034
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: Mike is the working at Yahoo when they started their

1035
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: sports property and we were heading to Dallas for a

1036
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 2: family thing, and so I just put a note in saying, hey,

1037
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: they're going to be a home. Is there any chance,

1038
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you can find me a couple of

1039
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: tickets I'm always willing to buy them. It's really just

1040
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: a if it's sold out and availabilities low. It's like,

1041
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: if you can help me get through this pass. And

1042
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: it's long enough ago that like all of these efficient

1043
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: marketplaces in the secondary world didn't exist, right, you had

1044
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: to know a guy. So we go and I get

1045
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 2: a note from our you know, one of our sales

1046
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 2: guys saying, hey, I got you covered, you know, just

1047
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: go to the box office. And I go and there's

1048
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: an envelope waiting for me, and I'm like, and I'm

1049
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: apologizing in advance to everybody that's with me going I

1050
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: have no idea where these are, but they're free, so

1051
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: let's see. And there's a note that says, hey, have

1052
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: a good time, and it's signed by Cuban and end

1053
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: up being right by the benches. So now I get

1054
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 2: not only the glory of watching people run really fast.

1055
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: It was the return of Alan Iverson to the court

1056
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: after he missed time because of an elbow injury. So

1057
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 2: he's wearing the sleeve and everything, and it's the triple

1058
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: j's and everything else, and the amount of trash talk

1059
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: and cursing, and I mean the roast of Tom Brady

1060
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: was nothing compared to what these guys were throwing at

1061
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: each other and the referees. But I just always remember

1062
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: there was a play where Iverson goes in, makes a

1063
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: play and by this point the game's decided as he

1064
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 2: hits the shot, so it's kind of emptying out and

1065
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 2: the parabolic microphones are there and everything, and you're picking

1066
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: up now everything these guys say. And he gets hit

1067
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: as he goes in, he turns to the reft, he goes,

1068
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: it's about bleeping. He bleep in time you bleep it

1069
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 2: he bleep you no call and blame and the ref looked.

1070
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: He goes, I got to tee up now because everybody

1071
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: heard that one. But it was just this back and

1072
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: forth and he just laughed whatever. He hit his free

1073
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: throw that went back down and took the technical free throws,

1074
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: but like that was as fun as it gets. So

1075
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: for years I've just espoused that very thing Ryan from

1076
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: the speed of the game, and if you want to

1077
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: hear how these guys interact or interact with the crowd

1078
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: a little bit, it's not always hey, guys, are you know,

1079
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: getting agutive and it's anxious. They sometimes looking for a

1080
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 2: place to eat while they're in town, sometimes just asking

1081
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 2: how you're enjoying your night. Like they go and have conversations.

1082
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: You want to go have the conversation with your A

1083
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: List stars. There's your opportunity and you don't have to

1084
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: be an A List star yourself.

1085
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm all in. I'm all in with that. And

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00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, and I would say, even like with some

1087
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: of the fans down there, when you're playing, you're so

1088
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: close to them that you do have to you got

1089
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: to acknowledge people there. And I think, you know, my

1090
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: challenge to some fans is that some people get those

1091
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: close seats and they go, well, this this is you know,

1092
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: I can say what I want. You know, I can

1093
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: kind of you know, get my harmone on MC harmon

1094
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: on it. And I'm just like, no, you didn't buy

1095
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: the right to me and my family, you know. And

1096
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: you know a lot of these fans think they bought

1097
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: a player, they bought the rights to a It's like, no,

1098
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: whatever amount of money you spent for this game, isn't

1099
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: that right.

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00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: Come and enjoy the game. You need to be respectful

1101
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: still human beings. And even if they didn't hit that

1102
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: third three pointer, to hit your parlay for you. He's

1103
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: right because that's the other element. It's always been there

1104
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: and now it's there front and center. I can only

1105
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,959
Speaker 2: imagine some of the back and forths on that stuff.

1106
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: You've had plenty of players address it. He's Ryan Allins,

1107
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: ten years in the league working for the Houston Rockets

1108
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 2: now and you can find them on Twitter at the

1109
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins Here with us on Fox Sports Sunday. I

1110
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: always want to call it Fox Football Sunday, but we're

1111
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: a couple of months out of that that realm. As

1112
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: we go through, I'm my garment coming up next. We

1113
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: have to turn our attention because again, you played in

1114
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: the league, you're around the league. You've seen many things

1115
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: with the craziness of the legal system as it pertains

1116
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: to the NBA. Got to get your thoughts. Im all Murray.

1117
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: He got a gift and boy did he use it.

1118
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that next year on Fox. Everybody get

1119
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: your sway on. Come on, uh you s it a

1120
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: lot day. There we go. ILO's got his phone up

1121
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: and the flashlight is on full on Sunday morning evangelizing

1122
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: from this Fox Sports Radio tyrac dot Com Studio Pulpit.

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Speaker 2: I am Mike Carmon alongside me, my guy Ryan Hollins

1124
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: at the Ryan Hollins where you find him on Twitter,

1125
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: find me over at Swollen. I'm always can get us

1126
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio. Take us with you wherever you're

1127
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: going on a Mother's Day, celebrate and evangelize. Here's one

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Speaker 2: of the great gifts. It's free, the iHeartRadio app. Ryan,

1129
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Speaker 2: What do you think? How's that for pitch man? I

1130
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: always say that during the holiday season and people write

1131
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: me in Sam a jerk. I go, come on, it's music,

1132
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: it's podcasts, it's all of the work that we do

1133
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: here at Fox Sports Radio, and it's free. Download it

1134
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: to your phone and take it with you. Twenty four

1135
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: to seven for that well, I was trying to get

1136
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: people to save their money for their own pursuits. I mean,

1137
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: the flowers are gonna die. I saw people lined up.

1138
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 2: I mean it was five point fifteen this morning. I'm

1139
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: driving by the Whole Foods. That guy's out there and

1140
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 2: he's unloading the truck and guys are already sitting there

1141
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: in their cars waiting for him to start taking their money.

1142
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: It's really kind of an interesting proposition. It's like, you know,

1143
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: if you have bought them yesterday or you bought them tomorrow.

1144
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: They're gonna be a bit cheaper. And there's always someone

1145
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: on the side of the road here in LA and

1146
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure any town USA same kind of thing, fresh

1147
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: from the farm without the markup.

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01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: Ah.

1149
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: See what I did for you there, I just saved

1150
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: you for some money. Shortly after the show, podcast goes

1151
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: up Fox Sports Sunday. Get missed Annie. If today's show,

1152
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: be sure to check it out. Search Fox Sports Radio

1153
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to follow, rate

1154
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Speaker 2: and review again. Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

1155
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 2: your podcasts. You'll see this show Fox Sports Sunday, Hollins

1156
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: and Harmon. It'll be posted right after we get off

1157
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: the air by our good guy Shay.

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Speaker 7: So.

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01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: Look, you're an aera Nite Man. You're learned and educated

1160
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: in the ways of the NBA, the rules, the regulations.

1161
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 2: As we've talked about a bit this morning, there's two

1162
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: things that happened this week. And I don't like to

1163
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: hit the rewind button too much, but when I've got

1164
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: a guy with your unique set of skills and perspective,

1165
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, we need to do it. First off, Pat

1166
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 2: Beverly gets four games for throwing the ball. I'm playing

1167
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: dodgeball with two fans. Scratch my head. Number one Jamal

1168
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: Murray gets to throw a towel and a heat pack

1169
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: and what does he get to do. He gets fined

1170
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 2: one hundred grand. And look, a hundred grand is still

1171
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: one hundred grand. So anybody's saying, this guy makes this,

1172
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: that guy makes that. Whatever, no hundred grand, still you're

1173
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: gonna feel it. If nothing else. That's a nice luxury

1174
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: car you don't get to buy right now. But he

1175
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 2: gets to play no suspension. And I get it, it's

1176
01:01:54,800 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs and all of that, but it's not unprecedented

1177
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: to see a star taken out of a game for

1178
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: egregious activity and think what Murray did. You can't just

1179
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: dismiss it as childish. The potential for danger was there,

1180
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: and he got away with one and the only thing

1181
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: he got were lustily booed and then he responded, ah,

1182
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 2: big effort because he fueled off being booed. He got

1183
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 2: a gift and he really cashed it in. That was

1184
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: like the guy that got the gift card for one

1185
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars and said let's go.

1186
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: When it comes to Jamal Murray and the NBA and

1187
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: at ruling, I ended up being all for it, and

1188
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: I think the NBA absolutely got it right.

1189
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 2: Here's a reason explained to me like I'm a five

1190
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 2: year old.

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01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: The reason they got it right is because if Jamarrow

1192
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: Murray sits out, very very likely, the Nuggets are going home.

1193
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: Their season is ended. And at the end of the day,

1194
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: the NBA understands ends that it's about the players. You

1195
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: want to allow the players to play the game. Now,

1196
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: in terms of Jamal Murray, and you said, explain it

1197
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: to a kid, that's the first time we've seen him

1198
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: do anything like that. He's no saying he's not perfect,

1199
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: but that is the first time we've seen him do

1200
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: anything like that. So to say he needs to miss

1201
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: the game, I don't agree with that.

1202
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: But if, for the first time in a game, Ryan Hollins,

1203
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: you get mad in the low post because someone gave

1204
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: you an album to the ribs and you turn and

1205
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: punch him in the face, You're getting suspended, aren't you.

1206
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: He didn't punch anybody, but he didn't nobody, Ryan, Hey,

1207
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: he didn't punch anybody. Nobody got hurt. I'm sure he's

1208
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: frustrated enough with himself. I'm sure he's publicly embarrassed. Lessons

1209
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: should be learned. Now if he does something else, he's

1210
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: going to be massacreed and he's going to probably miss

1211
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: ample games with money. And I think that, like I said,

1212
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: that golden rule is you want to see the players

1213
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: on the floor playing the game. It doesn't need to

1214
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: get personal egos, don't need to be involved. And again

1215
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: that one silly act in a very emotionally charged situation

1216
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: should not take him away from the game. But again,

1217
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: if he hasn't learned his lesson, you keep doing it,

1218
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna be missing. Look at Draymond. Draymond got his mulligan,

1219
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: so to speak to a couple of them. Okay, it

1220
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: was egregious, Okay, Draymond said out. Then Draymond comes right

1221
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: back and do something else. Nah, Draymond, take a completembatical whatever, vacation,

1222
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: get counseling, whatever, from basketball. Go because you've done too much.

1223
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: But I do agree that guys that they're truly shorry,

1224
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: it will show. And Jamal Murray played well. And I

1225
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: don't think that the entire organization. I don't think our

1226
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: viewing experience should be ended. And the only thing and

1227
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: this is what we chime back to m error. Oh

1228
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: my goodness that you know what happened in the series,

1229
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray through that heating pack. You don't want that

1230
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: to be the way that you remember what happened with

1231
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: the defending champs. And you know what, Jamal Murray, you

1232
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: put your team at risk. It was silly. He's got

1233
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: to live with the choices that he made. And you know,

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01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: if a guy makes right by it, I'm all for

1235
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: second chances, aren't you sure?

1236
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: After he pays his penalty, which he didn't do except

1237
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 2: to write a check to a charity.

1238
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if he misses, the series is over. But

1239
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: that should but that shouldn't be.

1240
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 2: The deciding line. Oh you're down to nothing, so we're

1241
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,479
Speaker 2: just gonna kind of smile at you. No do that again.

1242
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: You don't do that again.

1243
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna send them home and deprive us of a

1244
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: potential game six or seven. If this was the second

1245
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: that's the way you set it up, though, No changing

1246
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: the series. So if it's tied one one, it's okay.

1247
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: If you suspended game three.

1248
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't suspend him either way. If it's the

1249
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: first time he did it. Now, if he continually does it,

1250
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: I do suspend him this first time. This is the

1251
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: first time. They're not going to suspend a guy. My opinion,

1252
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: that's the absolute right call for the first time. We

1253
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: all do you know how emotional it is. Your emotions are.

1254
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: Any shooting three for eighteen. That was the closest you

1255
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: claim to hitting a shop that day.

1256
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: No, that was funny. That was funny. That was funny.

1257
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: But let me give you.

1258
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: It's like he was playing corn hole. He got it

1259
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: right up and day against the road. But he did,

1260
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: but it didn't go into it didn't hit him.

1261
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: Let me give you this, And this is just part

1262
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: of being a pro. And it was silly. I'm not

1263
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: saying that it's not silly. When you're playing professional basketball,

1264
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: especially playoff basketball, your awareness, your fight or flight instincts

1265
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: kick in. You are standing on the floor and there

1266
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: are thousands of people cheering. You know that the game

1267
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: is being broadcast to any and everyone all around the world, literally,

1268
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: so those fight or flight responses are there, and ye's

1269
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: why you get wacky, crazy stuff. That's why we're excited

1270
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: to watch because you have all of the emotions involved

1271
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: in the game and they're flaring, and Jamal Murray again

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01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: he let his emotions get the best of them.

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01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: No, it's one thing, though, Ryan, if you do the

1274
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: stop up and down like Lebron James did, which became mimable,

1275
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 2: or you're chasing an official down the court, those those

1276
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: emotional things, I get the I'm just gonna start chucking

1277
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 2: stuff from the bench. I mean, that's not a bridge

1278
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 2: too far.

1279
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: No, not the first time. No, I don't know what

1280
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: he was trying to do. But I think again, the

1281
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: right cause for him to not be suspended I got,

1282
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: I got, I got zero problem with it, A good

1283
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: zero problem, right, And I don't think about back to

1284
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: and again, well let's go back to Draymond and these

1285
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: these are the different situation but similar enough, because right

1286
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: it would it would it would infringe on the ability

1287
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: for the organization to win. You think about the championship

1288
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: that Golden State lost. Sure, the only thing to this

1289
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: day they talk about is him being suspended. Now, Draymond

1290
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 1: was egregious the whole season, and he pushed it, and

1291
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: he pushed it. Okay, so he missed. But that's the

1292
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: only thing talked about this is not the same scenario here.

1293
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: No, that was bad job by him. No. I mean

1294
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 2: they're like, you can't equate that, you except for the

1295
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 2: final act. But certainly, Yeah, Draymond had a file, you know,

1296
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: like you were in the you know, going back to school,

1297
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 2: if you were the kid that was in the principal's

1298
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: office every day. I mean, I had a guy that

1299
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: I supervised many years ago. I think the statute of

1300
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: limitations is here. I mean the file was several inches

1301
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:33,440
Speaker 2: thick with things that you know, I marked as egregious

1302
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: and we had to have sit downs or whatever. Guess

1303
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: what he was still there and when I had to

1304
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 2: go and add another one. Here it is. Here's the

1305
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,799
Speaker 2: big file once again. It was the Bart Simpsons sitting

1306
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 2: down with superintended Chalmers and Skinner kind of thing. It

1307
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: doesn't even fit in one file folder. After a while,

1308
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: we need a second drawer kind of thing. That's where

1309
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 2: Draymond was and is and all of that, and and

1310
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: I get, you know, and everybody talks about his competitiveness

1311
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: and tries to excuse it every way till Sunday. And

1312
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: if you're in the organization, I guess that's what you

1313
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: have to do. Right, You got to stick up for

1314
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: your guy as best you can. It's Steve Kerr. Every

1315
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 2: once in a while you could see the real words

1316
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 2: kind of coming through the gritted teeth when he's at

1317
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 2: the podium. And yes, Jamal was a It was a

1318
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: first defense still still to me, a first defense with

1319
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: two separate incidences packed therein because he didn't get the

1320
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 2: reaction he wanted with the towel, so the heating back

1321
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: came next.

1322
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 1: That.

1323
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 2: You know, look, agree to disagree. And maybe you know,

1324
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 2: I'm not a guy that's played in the in a

1325
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: heated NBA environment to where I would say, okay, this

1326
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 2: gets the best of you. Just seems to where you're

1327
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 2: throwing things. You know, we've regressed to our five year

1328
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: old selves, which is why I asked you to explain

1329
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: it to me like that five year old.

1330
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying that it was smart. It was

1331
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: it was silly, it was downright stupid. But the end

1332
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: of the day, nobody got hurt. And do you think

1333
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: that the the Nuggets and their season should be ended

1334
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: because of that?

1335
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what's going to take you down.

1336
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm asking you their season.

1337
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 2: Yes, I will say yes, for what he did. I'm

1338
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 2: not looking at it and saying, well, they're down to nothing. Boy,

1339
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 2: this is really bad. This is really bad. But you

1340
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 2: know what, they're down to nothing. So I've got a

1341
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: lot of play because they're down to nothing. I think

1342
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 2: that's symphasis.

1343
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: I would they should make it the same Okay, for

1344
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: the record, I would make the same call no matter what. Okay,

1345
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, yes, is that

1346
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: going to be somewhat of a factor. Yes, it's going

1347
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: to be a factor. Okay, they are down to nothing.

1348
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: That's the reality of the matter. It doesn't that that

1349
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: is that, that doesn't go away. That's the reality. Now

1350
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: let me ask you. Is it good for the league?

1351
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: Is it good for the say? Is it good for

1352
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: anybody other than No, it's great for.

1353
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 2: The TV networks or whatever else.

1354
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: Is it great for you? Do you want to go?

1355
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: Do you want to go for the next year and say,

1356
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: what happened to the Nuggets made? Do they heating back

1357
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: on the floor? No, you don't want to do that either.

1358
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,480
Speaker 2: But that's the way these that's the way the wikipedia

1359
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: world works, that's the way our sports talk radio works.

1360
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: We evaluated in the moment and days later. I haven't

1361
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 2: changed my mind on it, and you won't. It's the

1362
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: idea that I have to say, Well, you know what

1363
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 2: it would have affected the series, Like, well, then he

1364
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: shouldn't have thrown stuff on the court. He shouldn't have

1365
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 2: done outside of playing basketball. Look, you want to take

1366
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 2: it up with the referees, take your fine when you

1367
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: go and criticize him for not calling a foul, because look,

1368
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: he got manhandled. I certainly would understand his frustration. You

1369
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 2: can go back and he Michael Malone could have done

1370
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: the full Rick Carlisle with seventy eight things. The way

1371
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 2: that that game was officiated in Game two doesn't mean

1372
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: you get to throw stuff.

1373
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's right. I believe every man deserves

1374
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: a mulligan someone someone at some point in your life.

1375
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: Mike gave you grace and said, hey, Harmon's Harmon.

1376
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: I still got set the time out. You can call

1377
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: my mom on Mother's Day right now?

1378
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got Harmon. Harmon's acting up. Guys. Harmon's acting up,

1379
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: all right. He's he's acting at Nut. He's at it.

1380
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: He's acting at Nut again. What are we gonna do?

1381
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: I'll give it, give him some Grace, it's not Himmy

1382
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: Bay had a bad day. He had a bad day.

1383
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: Oh I may throw stuff at Smith on Monday, just

1384
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 2: to see what happens. He's Ryan Hollins on my Carbon here,

1385
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Let's get it over

1386
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: to our guy, Isaac Loewen Kron, a man who nobody

1387
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: has beef with at Isaac Kloan Crown. What's going on

1388
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 2: for what's going on in our sporting universe?

1389
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 6: Well, Mike and Ryan, speaking of Mulligan's, We've got one

1390
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 6: from boxing coming up in just a moment.

1391
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 2: But first, on to the NBA playoffs.

1392
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 6: Wearing Game three of the Eastern Conference semi Finals on

1393
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 6: Saturday night, the Boston Celtics one in Cleveland, one oh

1394
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 6: six to ninety three for a two games to one lead.

1395
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 6: In the Stanley Cup Playoffs, on Saturday night, the Dallas

1396
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 6: Stars won Game three of the Western Conference semi Finals

1397
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 6: at Colorado four to one. Stars lee that series two

1398
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,839
Speaker 6: games to one. Baseball Saturday evening, the Los Angeles Dodgers

1399
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 6: won at San Diego five to nothing, thanks in large

1400
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 6: part to a Grand Slam home run by ti Oscar Hernandez.

1401
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 6: San Francisco's Matt Chapman also at a Grand Slam home

1402
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 6: run in their five to one win over Cincinnati Brewers

1403
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 6: over the Cardinals five to three. Saint Louis has lost

1404
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 6: seven in a row now. In a women's boxing match

1405
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 6: on Saturday in Perth, Australia, WBA bantamweight champion Nina Hughes

1406
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 6: went up against challenger Chinika Johnson. The fight went the distance,

1407
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 6: but then talking about mulligans when it was time to

1408
01:13:54,520 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 6: announce the decision, ring announcer Lieutenant Dan Hennessy, and now

1409
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 6: all you got.

1410
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: Did you hear what I said?

1411
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 6: Lieutenant Dan Hennessy announced the wrong winner, So we'll play

1412
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 6: the entire sequence where he first announced La la lando.

1413
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: That was something else.

1414
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 6: The commentators you're gonna hear on the telecast, by the way,

1415
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 6: Joe Tessitour and Tim Bradley.

1416
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: Here it is your winner.

1417
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,440
Speaker 1: Min the pabajority decision and still.

1418
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 7: Alongsided scorecard of ninety eight ninety two favors Nina Hughes

1419
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 7: and holds a majority decision to go to seven and

1420
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 7: zero and retain her world championship on a night where

1421
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 7: Juanika Johnson it seemed like she was in control down

1422
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 7: the stretch. And by the way, Nakamura, who had that

1423
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 7: ninety eight ninety two scorecard, will be the referee.

1424
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 5: F Womachenko five five klebs.

1425
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 2: Course the con edition ninety six ninety four Gray Thy

1426
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: two by Johny Fighting out.

1427
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: Is this guy real?

1428
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 2: Is this guy?

1429
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 5: Lieutenant Dan Hennessy, You're real?

1430
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: Get this dude up out of here, man, I mean,

1431
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Oh? My good, what are we doing?

1432
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: Are we doing? Oh?

1433
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 2: What are we doing? Back this guy out of here?

1434
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: Thanks Eilo. That is some of the best audio of

1435
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 2: all the wackiness that we found on the road with

1436
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 2: you Angel City FC. Later on this afternoon the special

1437
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 2: Mother's Day edition. Our guy Ilo will be on the

1438
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: call at Isaac Lohencron for all of that information as

1439
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 2: well at the Ryan Hollins where you find my guy,

1440
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins find me over at Swollen Dome. As always,

1441
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 2: follow all of the trials and tribulations of our twenty

1442
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: four hour cycle here at Fox Sports Radio. And coming

1443
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 2: up next, an interesting decision by one NFL team another

1444
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 2: one that has me scratching my head. We'll do that

1445
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: next year on Fox. Greetings and welcome back in it's

1446
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. Here Fox Sports Radio live fromth tirerat

1447
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 2: dot Com studios my garment alongside Ryan Hollins. A nice

1448
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 2: spirited discussion. Again, the podcast goes up after we're finished here.

1449
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 2: In the end, I need content and I need storylines.

1450
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 2: Whatever's gonna give me that and feed my engine? Ryan Hollins,

1451
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm all for it. I am a machine between that

1452
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 2: and the coffee. Still looking for that sponsor.

1453
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: An unforgiving machine.

1454
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 9: No.

1455
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's day one and done.

1456
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: It's dad.

1457
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm like college basketball these days. Look, that's true. It's true. Ran,

1458
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 2: Here's a story that has legs the last couple of days,

1459
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: and I thought it was starting to die and I

1460
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 2: was like, well, by sound, this will be dead. So

1461
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: we'll leave it in the rearview mirror. But it's kind

1462
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 2: of a fun one. In the NBA NFL, who can

1463
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 2: play where and how guys can excel and all those things.

1464
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: Most NFL players started with Austin Rivers, of course, you know, saying, hey,

1465
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: I could put thirty NBA guys in the NFL, and

1466
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 2: we can look at Jimmy Grant, we can look at

1467
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: the tight end position for sure, where guys have gone

1468
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 2: into great success after some collegiate basketball. And we you know,

1469
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,520
Speaker 2: I heard Bucky on the show prior Bucky Brooks alongside

1470
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 2: Andy Furman precedes us, you know, talking about Julius Peppers

1471
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 2: and his role with the North Carolina basketball team, et cetera.

1472
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 2: So trying to do that. Most of the NFL guys

1473
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 2: that responded just said you wouldn't be tough enough because

1474
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 2: we knock you out. Okay, okay. That said, let's get

1475
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 2: into the athleticism and skill sets or whatever else. And

1476
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 2: I was gonna let it die until Patrick Mahomes showed

1477
01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 2: up at the OKC Dallas game yesterday and up to

1478
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 2: the broadcast booth, and this is when Dave Pass said quote,

1479
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: Pat unsolicited just turned to Hubey and I and said,

1480
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 2: lou Dort could play in the NFL. I don't know

1481
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 2: if he was kidding or serious, but he said he

1482
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Speaker 2: could play linebacker or running back. So there you go,

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01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, you want to go run some routes, some

1484
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: post routes, maybe make you a post up guy in

1485
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 2: the end zone.

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01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I love to, but now I don't think

1487
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm among the players that has a frame that could

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01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: do it. Although I'd love to it. My flag football

1489
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: career goes goes wonderfully.

1490
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 2: But you know you're playing some flag football now I have.

1491
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm a big flag football guy.

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01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 2: Man, How did I not know this about you?

1493
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, I mean I don't you know.

1494
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 2: There? Yeah, because then we can get the sponsorships going.

1495
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 2: We can get you a cleat deal in the whole

1496
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: nine yard and I mean with that reach, man, I

1497
01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 2: can get you towards the corner of the end zone.

1498
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 2: I've now given my quarterback, even if they're wildly erratic,

1499
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: and extra five yards of throwing space.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Flag football. Now, here's where I sta some feet,

1501
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: isn't it. Here's where I stand with it? And I

1502
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: do want to acknowledge something and he knows it. For one,

1503
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: My guy, Austin rivers unfortunately to this day, no matter

1504
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do, he's gonna hear you don't deserve this.

1505
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: You don't deserve that. You got it because your dad.

1506
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: You got it because of this. Does that help? Yeah?

1507
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: But Austin went out and paved his way. He's a

1508
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: hard worker. He deserves what he got. But Austin, because

1509
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: the opportunities he was afforded is going to be heavily

1510
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 1: scrutinized by guys that didn't have those same opportunities. That's

1511
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: just part of it. Austin understands it, he receives it,

1512
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: he moves forward. Now, my guy, James Jones, who went off.

1513
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: The one thing that he's frustrated with is the tone

1514
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: in which what he was said and how was said

1515
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 1: from Austin was received as if in correct me if

1516
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, it's easy to play in the NFL. Any

1517
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 1: Joe off the Street can go and do it. And

1518
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a fair message. But I don't

1519
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: think that's what Austin was trying to say.

1520
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: No, I think that is absolutely true. We'll continue to

1521
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 2: break this down as well as getting back into the

1522
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 2: NBA playoffs. He's Ryan, I'm Mike, and this is Fox

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Speaker 2: it right off the jump. It's a big NBA playoff day.

1530
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 2: Oh wait, it's also Mother's Day. Got to remember that

1531
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 2: mom's Grandma's aunties. Everybody. It takes a village to raise

1532
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 2: little ones into responsible beings or semi responsible beings. So

1533
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 2: make sure to shoot the note over flowers chocolates. Spa

1534
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: day an hour to just contemplate the meaning of life

1535
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: in silence. Whatever it is that mom wants, what mom

1536
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 2: wants mom should get. How's that?

1537
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: Ryan?

1538
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 2: Did I encapsulate that? Well enough?

1539
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: All right, you said that? Quite?

1540
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.

1541
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: Man.

1542
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 2: If you need to take an hour for yourself, do

1543
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 2: that too. Let's look after each other and look after

1544
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 2: ourselves a little bit too, that whole self care because

1545
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: it is mental health Awareness month as well, so we

1546
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 2: try to be cognizant of that as we all go

1547
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 2: through the highways and byways of life, you know, throwing

1548
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 2: towels at each other and snapping towels or whatever the

1549
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: case may be. As we are Ryan and I here

1550
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 2: for another hour having some fun going through the NBA playoffs.

1551
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: We ended last hour Ryan with a little bit of

1552
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 2: the Austin Rivers discussion. I think you made a great

1553
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 2: point the end. You know, we always try to read

1554
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 2: into intent, and let's face it, for hot take nonsense

1555
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 2: in our business, because you're on this side of the glass. Now,

1556
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 2: folks are gonna read into what they will. And it's

1557
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: always the best when they put it on Twitter, because

1558
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 2: then you know, you can purposefully ignore the sarcasm that's

1559
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: dripping down as someone says something, or where they're kind

1560
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,560
Speaker 2: of nodding and winking as they say it, you know,

1561
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 2: where everybody's in on the joke. Whereas you know, with

1562
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: Austin Rivers, I think he was just kind of saying, like,

1563
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 2: guys are athletic, and I think there's thirty guys. The

1564
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 2: way bodies have developed now, right, because the average NBA

1565
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 2: player doesn't look like the guy from thirty years ago.

1566
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: Right.

1567
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: The supplements are different, the training habits are different. It's

1568
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 2: a three sixty five job, whereas back in the day,

1569
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 2: we can argue it probably wasn't for most guys, and

1570
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that they weren't good players and in

1571
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: their time in space and great athletes. But now we're

1572
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, something something a little bit different.

1573
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 2: As we watch NBA Action go cook, you know, sideline

1574
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 2: to sideline and post to post, you know. And I

1575
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 2: think that's what Austin Rivers was more getting at than

1576
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 2: trying to do the word better than you, which is

1577
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 2: how Jones took it. And I think part of that

1578
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 2: was it's going to make for better television if I

1579
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: take offense to it.

1580
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was absolutely it. So I think from a hey,

1581
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: you don't appreciate my sport and what I do and

1582
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 1: the hard work that goes into it, that's how it

1583
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: was taken. And I absolutely agree with Austin Rivers clearly.

1584
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,839
Speaker 1: Even Patrick Mahomes agrees.

1585
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 2: You watch a guy take a couple of big hits.

1586
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean, like Jalen Brunson right now, you're telling me

1587
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: I can't put him in the B gap the way

1588
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 2: he goes and attacks. I'm not saying he's going to

1589
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 2: be good for twenty carries for seventeen weeks, but I

1590
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 2: think I can get him the ball a couple of times.

1591
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: Look actually, be Derek's training with Eric Bledsoe. Eric Blidsoe

1592
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 1: for sure could do it, could do that get it

1593
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: boton Jr. So yeah, you can probably go and get

1594
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: thirty guys, and obviously, hey, mentality is important.

1595
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 7: You know.

1596
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: The running joke and I knew you heard this before, Mike,

1597
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,600
Speaker 1: is that you know, every every basketball player is a

1598
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: is a yeas it's a football player who went to

1599
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma Drill or walked away or couldn't make it

1600
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 1: on a certain day. So I get it, you get

1601
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: your accolades. Hats off to the football players, much loved there.

1602
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 1: But the reality is in the sport is there are

1603
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: guys that can have never played football a day in

1604
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: their life because their body type and frame and depending

1605
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: on the position, they can step in after a collegiate career.

1606
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: And that's why the NFL, there's a reason this is

1607
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,879
Speaker 1: from the NFL. The NFL will go out and scout

1608
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: basketball players, collegiate basketball players and say, hey, you should

1609
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 1: come make it in the NFL. And some of these

1610
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: guys have succeeded at a very high level. You have

1611
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: never in the history of ever seeing an NBA team

1612
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: go and watch a football game and say or a

1613
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: collegiate football player and say, hey, man, I think you

1614
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 1: got a career in the NBA one day. It hasn't happened.

1615
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of truth behind it to Jones

1616
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: and all my football brother in nothing but respect. There's

1617
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: a reason why a lot of us don't do it.

1618
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: And there are some very tough people in the NBA.

1619
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: Let's not tel the disrespect out there, and a lot

1620
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: of it is body type and no, hey, think about

1621
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 1: a guy like Charlie Ward. Maybe Charlie Ward's the only

1622
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: one who did it, who's that talented and say, you

1623
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna choose. The NBA shut out Charlie

1624
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: Ward by the way. So yes, let's not discredit. It's

1625
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 1: nothing but love on both sides. But I think at

1626
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:44,759
Speaker 1: the end of the day, yes, Austin Rivers was correct.

1627
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: They just didn't like it. Harmon you agree with me?

1628
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: They liked the way he said it.

1629
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 2: Well, look there was I think you can read into

1630
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 2: some of the dismissiveness of it. Again if you work

1631
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 2: your whole life to do something right, I mean, look

1632
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: at look at this business. Right Folks go to journalism school,

1633
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: go through the paces, rise up as they do over years,

1634
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 2: and then someone just walks in and takes the job

1635
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 2: ahead of them. I understand, like the old way of

1636
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 2: doing media and stuff like it's any business.

1637
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: Right, players, Look at best tight end in the NFL.

1638
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: And he was a college basketball player.

1639
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 2: He was a very it was a very good poached

1640
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: up red zone guy. He and Drew Brees certainly works

1641
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 2: some magic.

1642
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

1643
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 2: You know Tony Gonzalez, you know you Antonio Gates. There

1644
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 2: certainly guys and and I would refute, I like, someone's

1645
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 2: got to step forward, because I got to imagine guys

1646
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,560
Speaker 2: were scouted, right, because you got some receivers that go

1647
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 2: and fly that might have gotten gotten a look sie.

1648
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 2: I mean again, it's all about skills, translation and whatever else.

1649
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: Uh.

1650
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 2: You know, just because someone didn't make it that path

1651
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that they didn't get a look sie. Right,

1652
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 2: guys are trying to find talent wherever they can go, Right,

1653
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: they're on the back lots. They're gonna go hang down

1654
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: on the blacktop in Venice if they think they can

1655
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: find a guy that'll sign a two way deal and

1656
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 2: be of any use to them.

1657
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: Right.

1658
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 2: So is so we certainly have that, and the expansion

1659
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 2: of football leagues outside of the NFL certainly do that.

1660
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 2: But you know, we certainly see NFL scouts traveling. All right,

1661
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 2: here's a rugby guy, here's a lacrosse guy like you

1662
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 2: bring him into camp, right. Brock Lessner was a you know,

1663
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 2: football player, went on to UFCWWE fame whatever he was

1664
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 2: with the Vikings cup of coffee some rookie guards. If

1665
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: you want to go back and collect those, Ryan, I

1666
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 2: know you're looking to add to your collection, so maybe

1667
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: you can go do that. But you know, it's like anything, right,

1668
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 2: if you built some level of acumen in whatever profession

1669
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 2: it is, and you think someone can take a shortcut,

1670
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna get mad, right, So that's certainly I can

1671
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 2: understand you. Bristol's like I worked my blankety blank off

1672
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 2: in two days, and that's where the toughness thing came in.

1673
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 2: I would say for those NBA players that would have

1674
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 2: had the option, you made a business to sit and

1675
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 2: for that long term health. Probably a good one.

1676
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1677
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 2: For your bank account because it's guaranteed money. You made

1678
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 2: a good one too if you made it.

1679
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what, like I said, some of

1680
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: those guys are that darn talented, you know, or they

1681
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: just have those those bodies. And keep in mind, you know,

1682
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 1: you have like the Randy Mosses who were just standout

1683
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 1: high school athletes. But you know, keep in mind, Randy

1684
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 1: Moss is only six y four. You know, hey, John

1685
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 1: Wall is another one of those guys. If you've seen

1686
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 1: how fast John Wall was definitely you know in his

1687
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: prime and in his day Russell Westbrook. So there's a

1688
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 1: lot of guys quickly from Philadelphia. So like, there's a

1689
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 1: lot of guys who could do it. But do they

1690
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: want to? Is it smart? No? They probably probably choose

1691
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 1: not to. But there's a lot. But again, do not

1692
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: just credit the mental toughness of a lot of these guys.

1693
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: And we've seen it on every league, every level, and

1694
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: every sport. And I think the biggest thing is, like,

1695
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: you're not going to go them off the streets unless

1696
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: you've been playing for at a very high level and

1697
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 1: step into a position like a Patrick Mahomes. You're not

1698
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: going to go in and be an All Pro quarterback. Okay, now,

1699
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 1: a tight end possibly wide receiver. Hey, maybe you know

1700
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And tight end right now is the

1701
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: most I would say transferable skill set from a basketball

1702
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: player in a football.

1703
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 2: Height posted up all of that, right, it's a lot

1704
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 2: of the same footwork and movement that you would have. Yeah,

1705
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 2: you bulk up a little bit but you're already at

1706
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: the height advantage, right, because that's the thing you get

1707
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 2: back into it. For Graham and for you know, Gates

1708
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 2: wasn't as tall, but you know, the low post skills

1709
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 2: like I always equated and Kwon Bolden was a guy

1710
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 2: that I don't know that it would translate to the

1711
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 2: NBA hardwood, but it was how I always described how

1712
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 2: he would be able to find and create space to

1713
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 2: catch passes, basically low post skills of boxing out. I

1714
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 2: see it, you know, watching soccer games, you know, in

1715
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: the pros and at every level below it. You know,

1716
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 2: you can tell which teams are bringing basketball players or

1717
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 2: folks that have developed skills in other sports, and how

1718
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 2: easy to apply it because that's what they're familiar with

1719
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 2: and that gives them more comfort on the field. I

1720
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:21,440
Speaker 2: think this whole exercise, though Ryan, has been an extension

1721
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 2: of the old can this guy play in this age?

1722
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 2: Just adding another sport to it, right, because we always

1723
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 2: try to do the transport of a guy through a

1724
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 2: space time continuum. Let's go to Marvel, right, so they're

1725
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 2: gonna go, all right, we've got to make this jump.

1726
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 2: It's gonna be like you know, when they went went

1727
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 2: through and tried to get all the infinity stones. There

1728
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 2: you go, my nerd moment of the morning we always do.

1729
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 2: That was like, all right, that player couldn't play in

1730
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 2: this league. It's like, does he have the same nutritional

1731
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 2: supplements in training and the different emphasis on how the

1732
01:30:56,040 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 2: season and offseason goes versus in nineteen eighty or you know,

1733
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,919
Speaker 2: guys from the sixties, are they playing against the athletes

1734
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 2: of today? Again we if we're gonna go and say, well,

1735
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 2: these guys would have dominated in the past, Like are

1736
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:14,799
Speaker 2: they they still getting the same benefits of the science

1737
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 2: and nutrition that we have here, or are they, you know,

1738
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 2: still adhering to the fact that you used to have

1739
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 2: doctors doing PSAs for cigarette smoking, Like what are we

1740
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 2: what are we doing?

1741
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, no, you're right about that.

1742
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 2: We take parts of it and we don't move. So

1743
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of that same argument now just

1744
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 2: expanded to sports. So you can have a verbal slap fight.

1745
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 2: And it's been fun to watch because everybody tries to

1746
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 2: put up their list of these guys and certainly the

1747
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 2: way Lebron James and Clyde Drexler run through people, I'll

1748
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 2: give them the ball at the goal line, let's go

1749
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 2: put that head down of it.

1750
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: Just I gotta acknowledge this too. Were I don't know

1751
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: if we think Kat Williams or are we It's about

1752
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 1: the people, it's what the people want. But it seems

1753
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: like there's this this this beef era. Everybody everything wants

1754
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: to going to a beef and get your numbers up.

1755
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 1: And I don't know. To me, Hey, if it's something

1756
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 1: that's organic, you're disappointed in something that somebody said or

1757
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:19,600
Speaker 1: something went on, Hey, you have your disappointments there. But

1758
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: if you're doing it for clicks, I'm not a huge

1759
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 1: fan of it.

1760
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 10: Man.

1761
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 2: You got to be able to keep that act up,

1762
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 2: is really what it comes down to. Ryan, Hey, because

1763
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 2: you get the bit for a second. And for some

1764
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 2: of those guys, I see you over there, Quentin Grimes,

1765
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 2: still not a nick. If you can keep that act

1766
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 2: up for years, good for you.

1767
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 1: Well. I'm not big on the act, especially once you

1768
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: hit a certain age. You want to know why, because

1769
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: we en on the school yard no more. Man, he's

1770
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 1: a grown man with family, So I hope these things

1771
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 1: are genuine, you know when they happen.

1772
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can keep hoping He's Ryan hollidst the Ryan

1773
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 2: Hollins find me over at Swollen Home. And if you

1774
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 2: got beef, you know what you can do. You can

1775
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 2: settle it in the ring and maybe the announcer will

1776
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 2: call the wrong winner. Sure, we'll hear that again in

1777
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 2: a few minutes with our guy Isaac Lowing Crowd. He's

1778
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins. I'm Mike Carmen, Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday.

1779
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 2: Coming up next. We'll get back into the NBA playoffs

1780
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,719
Speaker 2: couple of games later on today. Let's find some insights

1781
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 2: from our guy, Ryan Hollins as to what he expects.

1782
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 2: Can the Nuggets even things up where the t Wolves

1783
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 2: respond in grand fashion? That's next here on Fox Sports Radio.

1784
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 2: Now I going to go either to an amusement park

1785
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:43,759
Speaker 2: or to watch animated cars Coot Show Show. Ryan Hollins,

1786
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 2: we're here liventheti RAQ dot Com Studios. Ryan Hollins with

1787
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 2: me on, Mike Carmon, thanks for being with us here.

1788
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 2: Iowa Sam with us this morning. It's good to see Sam.

1789
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him in a while here.

1790
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: Ryan, So surprise Sam is working this early.

1791
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 2: Man, Well, you know what sometimes sicked.

1792
01:33:59,400 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 1: In this.

1793
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 10: You raise your hand and you say I got you. Yeah,

1794
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 10: And that's what Sam did today, Ryan, Wow. Yeah, he

1795
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 10: texted me and I'm like, Sam, does someone have your phone?

1796
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 10: Should I call the ignorities?

1797
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: No? Sam, is this is really him? Now?

1798
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:17,640
Speaker 2: That would have been interesting, That would have taken a

1799
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 2: deep dive to dark turn perhaps.

1800
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought somebody, you know, legitimately me, was

1801
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 1: trying to be him.

1802
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 2: You know, I'm here, He's alive, and he's free. Who

1803
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to be in.

1804
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 9: Control of my own phone? There you go to tell you,

1805
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 9: Ryan Helens that I'm on the show with you.

1806
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: Here.

1807
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got our guys, Shay, we got Isaac Lowancron

1808
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 2: on the updates. Having a blast with you this morning.

1809
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 2: Happy Mother's Day. Wherever you are, however you're celebrating, take

1810
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 2: a moment, make the call. If you're able to make

1811
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 2: the call. I know for some it's difficult. It's relationships

1812
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 2: at any level are aren't always easy. But you know

1813
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 2: you got you got today, so go make the best

1814
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 2: of it. And that's as preachy as I'm gonna get.

1815
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 2: Unless we start talking about towel throwing again. You can

1816
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 2: find that in Kier discussion in the podcast that'll go

1817
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 2: up after we're done wherever you get your podcast. Fox

1818
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday Hollins and Harmon. We appreciate you being with

1819
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 2: us and give us a few minutes of your time today,

1820
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 2: Ryan later on Today. First up, we got the Knicks

1821
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 2: and the Pacers Game four, Indiana five and a half

1822
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 2: points favorites. If you're in the greater Indianapolis area, you

1823
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 2: can get in for under one hundred bucks.

1824
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 1: There you go.

1825
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 2: There's a mother's day for you. Watch the Knicks and

1826
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 2: work ethic and then have your mom, grandma, aunt whomever

1827
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 2: look at you and say, why don't you work that hard?

1828
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 2: Who's left standing in this one? Here? How many more

1829
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,879
Speaker 2: employers can the Knicks potentially lose to injury and exhaustion.

1830
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 1: I think Indy takes this one too. I think they do.

1831
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 1: I think it's just too much to overcome. We talked

1832
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 1: about it earlier in the show. I think og Anubi

1833
01:35:57,880 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: just bring it just means too much of the ball

1834
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 1: club and I don't think that they can recover from

1835
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 1: him missing.

1836
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 2: So we've got Haliburton and you saw him leaving the

1837
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 2: podium the other day after the wind He's grimacing as

1838
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 2: he was walking back towards the locker room. And again,

1839
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 2: you know there's a conversation I know you and Smith

1840
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,839
Speaker 2: had when you filled in for me a week ago Friday,

1841
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 2: and something we talked about a little bit last week

1842
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 2: and certainly today with Luca is we're still trying to

1843
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 2: get through that injured versus hurt phase of things and

1844
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 2: how quickly guys can recover. Obviously younger bodies. Look, I'm

1845
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 2: an old man. I miss step and my ankle hurts

1846
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 2: for weeks. That's where I'm at in my life. That's

1847
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 2: the fate I have. But when you're in your mid twenties,

1848
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 2: the body has great restorative properties, not to mention all

1849
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 2: of the different machines and opportunities for therapists to work

1850
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:58,600
Speaker 2: on you to get you right. Any concerned with Haliburton

1851
01:36:58,800 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 2: going into Game four here.

1852
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 1: No, he's young, and this is I've been there before.

1853
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: You fall on your tailbone. Listen, I fell off my

1854
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: tailbone in the playoffs, and I mean I could barely walk.

1855
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 1: But once you get worked on, the adrenaline gets flowing

1856
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,640
Speaker 1: and once you get running, you're okay. That's something you

1857
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 1: can play through. But some of these injuries, man, they

1858
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: just they just hurt. And when when you're out there,

1859
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 1: you're gutting it up, you're putting everything in. And if

1860
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 1: you had a chance to see some of these guys

1861
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: that literally limp out of the arena, I mean hobbled, hurt,

1862
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, feeling it, you would you would be like, man,

1863
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 1: I can't believe they going they do that again, you know.

1864
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: So it's not the NFL. It's a different type of physicality.

1865
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,680
Speaker 2: But I would say a lot of those NFL guys though,

1866
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 2: they got a lot more padding on the backside, so

1867
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 2: the tailbone injury probably not as common.

1868
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 1: Well, it's false. It's not about the padding. It's where

1869
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 1: you get hit or where you get falls. It's the

1870
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 1: wrong place. It's all about the placement. So that's a

1871
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: to those guys, man. I'm telling you, man, it takes

1872
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 1: a lot for those NBA players to get up and

1873
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: keep going. And everybody has different paying thresholds. Sure, you know,

1874
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 1: so I do think he'll play, you'll play at a

1875
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 1: high level. I do give the advantage to the pacers

1876
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 1: because their strengthen is in numbers, and I think for

1877
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: New York they just need to get og Beck and

1878
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: that's a big factor they're and keep in mind, I'm

1879
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 1: saying this, and these were all close games, you know,

1880
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 1: but I don't think they have enough because the hustle

1881
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 1: and the way he's able to neutralize, they're able to

1882
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 1: defend much better with him on the floor.

1883
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 2: Well, that's been the fun of it, right, looking at

1884
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 2: that series, and I guess that would be the larger

1885
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 2: criticism if you were ready to take the thirty thousand

1886
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 2: foot view of things, Ryan is a lot of these

1887
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:48,719
Speaker 2: games are harkening back to the NBA of yesteryear, mostly

1888
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 2: regular season. But let's just say it for purposes of

1889
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 2: the conversation, where it was the all right, I'll tune

1890
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 2: in with four minutes and see what the score is.

1891
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 2: Because you're seeing blowouts early and runouts early, and you're

1892
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 2: always going to get a run, right. It's a game

1893
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 2: of runs, game of emotion and swings. One call, one

1894
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 2: big make or a big block could change succeed. I

1895
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 2: got the big man in there because I wanted to

1896
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 2: get a big block shot mixed therein, or a big

1897
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 2: rebound right where you battle and you know, you swing

1898
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 2: a little bit, not too wildly, but enough to say

1899
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 2: this is my house kind of thing. You know, all

1900
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 2: of those kind of things that come in and can

1901
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 2: change a little bit of a complexion of a game.

1902
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 2: But some of these games, I tell you, Ryan, like

1903
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 2: that's the one thing we have not been cheated for

1904
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 2: a minute in Knicks Pacers. You can argue it about

1905
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 2: officiating what should should have been called the kickball thing.

1906
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 2: All of those there's a million plays and that's the

1907
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 2: way it is with every game. But the fact that

1908
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 2: from pillar to post we're getting two teams battling for

1909
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 2: forty eight minutes. I mean, sign me up for seven games,

1910
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 2: ten games, whatever we want to do.

1911
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 1: No, it's been fun and you hit it right on

1912
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 1: the head. You know, whether whether you like Jason Smith

1913
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 1: his knicks or not, they have been just really the

1914
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 1: story of the playoffs man, with what they've you know,

1915
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 1: really brought, uh brought to these games and how hard

1916
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 1: they played and just going at it and the physicality

1917
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 1: air like they have been the team. Man, I think

1918
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 1: it has been very fun to watch what they've done.

1919
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 1: It's a team you got to cheer for. I think

1920
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 1: at this point everybody should be a Jalen Brunson fan.

1921
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're not, But you know what, Ryan, that's

1922
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 2: a good jump off, right, because Smith and I were

1923
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,640
Speaker 2: talking about this the other day, and naturally he was go,

1924
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 2: New York Go. It's actually in some of the promos

1925
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:43,679
Speaker 2: him screaming and busting my ear drum, all of that stuff.

1926
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 2: But Jalen Brunson, Steph Curry right in terms of shots

1927
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 2: down the stretch. It's a fun little discussion given the

1928
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 2: the over that that Steph has in playoff moments down

1929
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 2: the stretch. But for Jalen Brunson, I don't know that

1930
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 2: I ever seen more media people kind of say I

1931
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,600
Speaker 2: was wrong about something as quickly as they did to

1932
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 2: throw flowers at him, like people hold on to the

1933
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 2: most idiotic beliefs because it was good hot take nonsense again,

1934
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 2: going to the discussion earlier this hour about going for

1935
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 2: clicks versus living in reality. But Jalen Brudson, remember everybody

1936
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,920
Speaker 2: about his contract and everything else, and now all of

1937
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 2: a sudden it said, I completely underestimated this guy. My goodness.

1938
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 2: I joked about Jay Wright even he did an interview

1939
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 2: going yeah, I didn't know he'd be this guy.

1940
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it. I felt the same way.

1941
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 1: I really liked him. I was confused why he ended

1942
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 1: up being a second round pick. I really liked what

1943
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 1: he brought to the table. I saw what he was

1944
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 1: able to do in the College Championship. I mean, he's

1945
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 1: just he's tough as nails. He just finds a way

1946
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: to win. And that is an interesting conversation. I think

1947
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 1: there's some validity there. Let me chime back to do

1948
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 1: what you threw out about Steph Curry.

1949
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 2: Lebronso v v Curry, and part of Jason's argument, just

1950
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 2: to give it full color, Ryan was the fact that

1951
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 2: because he uses his body and his builds so effectively,

1952
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 2: he creates space to give himself options, something Steph struggles

1953
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 2: with latent games.

1954
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 1: He's never going to have the effect that Curry's going

1955
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:28,679
Speaker 1: to have on a ballgame as far as stretching your defense,

1956
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 1: just tearing up your your strategies that you have to

1957
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 1: use to play against him and guard him. He's not

1958
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 1: as prolific by any means as Steph, but there's some

1959
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 1: accuracy as far as closing out games. He can get

1960
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,600
Speaker 1: a shot off much better than Steph over contact, and

1961
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 1: he lives, like you know, in the mid range area.

1962
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 1: So there is some validity there. There's some there's some

1963
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 1: dog in that fight, so I will I will give

1964
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 1: that credit. He definitely deserves his props. And for Steph Man,

1965
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 1: he's a monster. There's no there's no challenging there. But

1966
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: as far as you know, if you're nitpicking Steph, no,

1967
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 1: it's hard for him to get his shot off when

1968
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 1: those moments are very tight. Is he a clutch player. Yeah,

1969
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,839
Speaker 1: he's pulled up and hit many tough shots. It's crazy

1970
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: when people even challenge that from Steph Curry. But at

1971
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 1: the end of the day, yes, Brunson's game is more

1972
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 1: equipped for those tight spaces because he scores in the

1973
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 1: mid range and it's very hard for you to double

1974
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 1: team those spots and he can score over your length.

1975
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:29,640
Speaker 2: He's Ryan Hollins on Mike Carmen. We'll get to the

1976
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 2: other game that comes up later on tonight five pm

1977
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 2: Pacific time. That'll be on TNT. Hey enjoy them while

1978
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 2: you got them. It's one of those messages of the

1979
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 2: day because we don't know how much longer we get

1980
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 2: to have shack At and Barkley and those guys yelling

1981
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 2: at each other either. But we'll get to that game.

1982
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 2: Denver Minnesota a huge game four coming up, but first,

1983
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 2: let's kick it over to our guy for one final

1984
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 2: time on our run. It's our guy, Isaac Loehenkron. I

1985
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 2: think he's actually eating an in and out Hamburger and

1986
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 2: just kind of housing Hollands Hollands like he's training for

1987
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 2: a prize fight. Got him to open up early for me,

1988
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 2: just to make you envious over there in what a

1989
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 2: burger land, or as I call it, whatever burger land. Yo,

1990
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 2: here we go. Wow at Isaac Lohenkron, at the Ryan

1991
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 2: Hollands at Fox Sports.

1992
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 6: I'll stop dunking on you, Ryan, the way you once

1993
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 6: dunked on Andre Blatch.

1994
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 2: See, we got toss a compliment in there. Do you

1995
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 2: even remember that?

1996
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 1: I will never forget that for the rest of my life.

1997
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 2: God, all right, neither will he. Apparently you know who

1998
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 2: you are and he'll just say Andre Blatt, damn right.

1999
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 2: Also never forgetting Boston fans, at least for the short term.

2000
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 2: Because in Game three of the Eastern Conference semi Finals

2001
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 2: on Saturday and night, the Celtics one in Cleveland what

2002
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 2: six to ninety three for a two games to one

2003
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 2: lead by led by Jason Tatum's thirty three points. Jalen

2004
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 2: Brown added twenty eight. The Stanley Cup Playoffs on Saturday

2005
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 2: night saw the Dallas Stars win Game three of the

2006
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 2: Western Conference semi Finals at Colorado four to one. Stars

2007
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 2: league that series two games to one.

2008
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 7: It was a.

2009
01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:11,599
Speaker 6: Saturday evening filled with grand slam home runs in Major

2010
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 6: League Baseball. Ti Oscar Hernandez of the Dodgers a grand

2011
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 6: slam of their five nothing victory at San Diego. The

2012
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:20,839
Speaker 6: Dodgers have won eight of nine. San Francisco's Matt Chapman

2013
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 6: a grand slam of the first inning of the giants

2014
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 6: five to one win over the Cincinnati reds Now. It

2015
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 6: is really trending, is what happened in women's boxing on

2016
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:36,599
Speaker 6: Saturday in Perth, Australia, as WBA bantamweight champion Nina Hughes

2017
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 6: took on challenger Shanika Johnson. The fight went the distance

2018
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 6: and then when it was time to announce the decision,

2019
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 6: the ring announcer, a gentleman by the name of Lieutenant

2020
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 6: Dan Hennessy, announced the wrong winner. So what you're gonna

2021
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 6: hear is he'll announce the wrong winner. The commentators Joe

2022
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 6: Tessitor and Tim Bradley on television talking about the verdict

2023
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 6: and then in the background you can hear Hennessy tell

2024
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 6: the fighters to come back into the center of the

2025
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 6: ring and with the same level of enthusiasm and not

2026
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 6: an ounce of regret, announce the different winner here.

2027
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 1: It is your winner by the Paul majority decision and still.

2028
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 7: Alongsided scorecard of ninety eight ninety two favors Nina Hughes

2029
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 7: and holds a majority decision to go to seven and

2030
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 7: zero and retain her world championship on a night where

2031
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 7: Juanika Johnson, what this seems like she was in control

2032
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 7: down the stretch.

2033
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 5: And by the way, Nakamora, who had that.

2034
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:54,480
Speaker 7: Ninety eight ninety two scorecard, will be the referee for Womachenko.

2035
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 7: Five five Kiles calls a competition ninety six.

2036
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:12,679
Speaker 1: Camora jority finding is this guy real?

2037
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 2: Is this guy?

2038
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 5: Liutenant Dan Hennessy, you're real?

2039
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:21,559
Speaker 7: Get that ludam out of here, man.

2040
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we doing?

2041
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 1: Good? What do we do it? Are we doing?

2042
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 2: Actually? And I'm told we there was actually some more

2043
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 2: audio after that that we're just getting in right after that.

2044
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 2: Let's listen.

2045
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 1: We lost, by the way, but I'm sorry.

2046
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 2: No, there's a mistake.

2047
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:43,280
Speaker 1: There's a mistake. Moonlight. You guys won best picture.

2048
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 2: How fascinating. Back to you guys, thanks, and I Sinklow

2049
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:51,799
Speaker 2: and crown where you find him? Catch him later today

2050
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 2: Greater LA Area and of course on the iHeart radio app,

2051
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 2: the Angel City FC plays a Mother's Day tilt. Try

2052
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:00,760
Speaker 2: to give the promotion, should do the work he does?

2053
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 2: You want to talk about the uh, the enthusiasm of

2054
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 2: a call and the UH riding the lightning, Ryan Hollins

2055
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 2: listen to an I Low call of an Angel City game,

2056
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 2: and the guy lives and dies for that full ninety plus.

2057
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 2: We're playing Houston tonight, by the way, the planet Houston. See,

2058
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:18,719
Speaker 2: so now it's personal.

2059
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: My condolence is in advance, is all right? We'll see

2060
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 1: all right?

2061
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 2: Unlike Daniels and andre Abers, should should we just get

2062
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 2: a bet on air because we're not bolding that. I'm

2063
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 2: actually not allowed. We're I've been holding Oh you are, Yeah,

2064
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 2: you're an NFL employee. So I can't even have him

2065
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 2: do that. That's terrible.

2066
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 6: I'll bet on in and out over one Burgers probably

2067
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:41,600
Speaker 6: do it.

2068
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 1: Nobody betting, say no, I can't do it.

2069
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 2: Trying to get some friendly wagers about that.

2070
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 5: I can't wait in and out over what a burger?

2071
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:54,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, see now he's getting all chests.

2072
01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 1: To he's going there. He's going there. But he's going there.

2073
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 1: He is, he's really he's there. He's like all the

2074
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 1: way there.

2075
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of going there now that he's throwing bows here.

2076
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 2: Later on tonight we've got game four t Wolves. They

2077
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 2: were bullied, they were punched around. Jamal Murray came out big,

2078
01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 2: and they came out flat. Two nothing lead opportunity to

2079
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 2: you know, use the old ted nuge and stranglehold opportunity

2080
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 2: against the Nuggets, and they fell flat. Anthony Edwards after

2081
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 2: the game said, look, I didn't have the energy. It

2082
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 2: was my fault. Like he tried to wear it. Young

2083
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 2: leaders and young guys take it up in the podium,

2084
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 2: no excuses, no you know this that the other just saying, hey,

2085
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 2: we didn't come ready to play and match their energies.

2086
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 2: All five starters for Denver in double figures last time out.

2087
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 2: How do they curb that and get back to the

2088
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 2: team they were for those first two games when people

2089
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 2: were writing the Nuggets off into oblivion.

2090
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 1: Well, for the Nuggets, you've got to attack Jamal Murray

2091
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 1: and make him defend you know what a player like that,

2092
01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:00,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes your best defense is your offense. Hire him out,

2093
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 1: test that ankle out, and their dominant wins. The first

2094
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: two games. They challenged him full court, they made him

2095
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 1: have to handle the basketball, they made him have to

2096
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 1: zig and zag, and they tired him out. And just

2097
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards is right. The energy was on the side

2098
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 1: and the pace of the Nuggets. They controlled the game completely,

2099
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: and then you got to attack Yelkic. He plays in

2100
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 1: a deep drop. Mike Conley's a guy who can attack it.

2101
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 1: So you got to get very specific the way that

2102
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 1: you go at the Nuggets. And then Karl Anthony Towns,

2103
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 1: he's got to be in that twenty point range. Okay,

2104
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 1: And obviously the calling card is the defense. But at

2105
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you got to be able

2106
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 1: to score the basketball. And if there is an achilles

2107
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:45,599
Speaker 1: heel the Timberwolves, they get very pedestrian offensively. They can't

2108
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 1: fall into those lulls, which means pick up the pace,

2109
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 1: get up and down, try to turn over the Nuggets

2110
01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 1: and see if you can pressure them, which they did

2111
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 1: a great job of. You have a chance to get

2112
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 1: out in transition and then make the hustle plays. Maybe

2113
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 1: it isn't just scoring a basketball, it's hitting the glass,

2114
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Speaker 1: offensive rebounds, transition, the little controllable. So if you're the Nuggets,

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Speaker 1: you got to get back to what got you there.

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Speaker 1: All that said and done. If Jamal Murray plays up

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Speaker 1: the standard he plays like we know he's capable of,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Nuggets in this situation.

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Speaker 2: Looking to even it up. Yeah. The first two games, right,

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Speaker 2: they disrupted Jokic wasn't able to do get into his

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Speaker 2: normal space, and physicality was the order of the day, right,

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Speaker 2: beat up on him a little bit, and certainly Jamal Murray.

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Speaker 2: And again it goes back to why the frustration really mounted.

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Speaker 2: Not only was his shooting percentage lower, Ryan, but plenty

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Speaker 2: of instances where he's getting physical, right, and he's getting

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Speaker 2: beat up a little bit, and now it becomes the

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Speaker 2: all right, what's a regular season fall versus what's a

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Speaker 2: playoff file and a play on kind of situation, And

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Speaker 2: he was looking for some of the star calls that

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Speaker 2: didn't come, and the frustration mounted. But keeping a body

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Speaker 2: on him has got to be the key to all

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Speaker 2: of this. You got six falls each, go use him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that's what I think what really threw

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Speaker 1: Yokich off. He said, man, they have the bodies to

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Speaker 1: throw at me. They were they were physical, they're tough,

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Speaker 1: they're they're deep and put their hands on me. And

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Speaker 1: the reason that I say, Jamal Murray is the key.

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Speaker 1: Remember this, Jamal Murray's the guy that frees up Yo Kicic.

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Speaker 1: Yokich is going to make the team play. So if

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Speaker 1: he's not on and he's not playing well, Nicola Jokic,

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Speaker 1: he can play one on one, but he gets going

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Speaker 1: to be put in situations we got to play more

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Speaker 1: one on one than he'd like to play.

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Speaker 2: He's Ryan Hollins. I'm Mike Harman. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Here Fox Sports Radio. We would be REVESSI if we

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Speaker 2: didn't finish out our tenure here with a little conversation

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Speaker 2: about the coaching carousel and one candidate who has stepped

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Speaker 2: forward here in the City of Angels. Should he be

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that next year on Fox Welcome back

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Speaker 2: in It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Garment

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Speaker 2: alongside my guy Ryan Hollins. Ryan, it has been a

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Speaker 2: very fast three hours.

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Speaker 1: Some spirit show with Ryan Rollins, Ryan Rollins, did you

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Speaker 1: know that's who you did the show with? No gold?

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01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 1: Check out the tweet? Oh no, go check out the tweet?

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01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 1: Is that Isaac getting me back?

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Speaker 2: Hold on, you might have created some beef and that's

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Speaker 2: how he got bag at you.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Rollins did a great job today.

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Speaker 2: You did. You did a hell of a job.

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Speaker 1: I got to say, thank you, Isaac. You win, You win,

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Speaker 1: Isaac with that one.

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Speaker 2: He's giving you the victory.

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Speaker 6: Ilough, I humbly accepted, as humbley as Andre Blatch accepted

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Speaker 6: his fate so many years ago.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, and now people are going to be looking up.

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Speaker 2: All right, go back and Jordan.

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Speaker 6: Hill if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, he's a researcher.

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Speaker 2: You want me to start singing body count by body count,

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Speaker 2: the body count?

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Speaker 1: Goodness? What would Ryan Rollins do?

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, I got some iced tea in got

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Speaker 2: to celebrate that. I mean, they're back on tour too.

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Speaker 2: Remember bringing that album home. My dad was not too

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Speaker 2: pleased with a couple of the tracks they're in until

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Speaker 2: he listened a little closer, was like, yeah, okay, I

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Speaker 2: get it. I understand the angst at the Ryan Hollins

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Speaker 2: with an h find me over at to Rolandome at

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right, so we've got a job

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Speaker 2: opening here in Los Angeles. Look, the one in Phoenix

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Speaker 2: got filled really quick. Budenholzer gets another shot, evidently our

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Speaker 2: own Doug Gottlieb and others saying well, he had interviewed

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Speaker 2: for the job long before Frank Vogel was even dismissed.

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Speaker 2: Going back to last week. But so that job is filled.

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Speaker 2: As Budenholzer tries to work with the collection of stars

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Speaker 2: therein and whatever, the next iteration of the Suns becomes

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01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 2: Ryan but here in Los Angeles trying to read the

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Speaker 2: tea leaves, and Budenholzer was a betting favorite for the

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Speaker 2: Lakers job early last week and now obviously five years,

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Speaker 2: fifty one million dollars or thereabouts is what he's getting

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Speaker 2: to to shepherd the Suns forward, JJ Reddick, Kenny Atkinson,

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Speaker 2: where are we going for?

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Speaker 1: Where?

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Speaker 2: Where's the best fit from Lebron and ad at this

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Speaker 2: stage of their careers, because knowing that the leash has

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Speaker 2: been pretty short on these guys in the post Phil

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Speaker 2: Jackson era.

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Speaker 1: The best fit is a coach that has Lebron's respect

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Speaker 1: and ear and the challenge is you think of JJ Reddick.

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Speaker 1: I think JJ Reddick's going to get the job. I

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Speaker 1: think he's the best fit of job is you don't

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01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 1: know what you're going to get. And that's why when

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Speaker 1: you speak about the coaching carousel, why is that big?

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Speaker 1: It's big because these coaches go from one spot to

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01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 1: the next because they're good coaches. They didn't forget how

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01:55:59,880 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 1: to coach. They've had success in the NBA. But if

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01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 1: you can't get on the same page with the player

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Speaker 1: or the players on that roster, they're going to move

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Speaker 1: forward from you. And then when you're an organization that

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a coach, you know what you're gonna do.

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01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna go out and say, man, I gotta go

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Speaker 1: with someone who's had success here before. I got to

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Speaker 1: at least get someone who's done it. I got to

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Speaker 1: get someone who can fill the position. So it beats

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Speaker 1: me why Bootenholzer is not good enough to still be

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Speaker 1: the coach of the Bucks, but he's clearly good enough

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Speaker 1: to be the coach of the Suns or another organization.

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Speaker 1: So that's just kind of the weird little elephant in

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Speaker 1: the room where the coach at Garasel continues to go

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01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 1: because you could be well qualified, you can be great. Heck,

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Speaker 1: you can win Coach of the Year, you can win

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Speaker 1: a championship, but you are gonna have to go coach

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Speaker 1: somewhere else. But the best thing about it is there's

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Speaker 1: another organization that sees your body at work that's going

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Speaker 1: to bring you in willingly. We call these rich people problems.

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Speaker 2: But we talk about it all the time. Right, is

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Speaker 2: especially the NBA, and look, it's there in other sports

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01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 2: for sure, but superstars having us say right, because you

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Speaker 2: have five guys that they are so integral to what's

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Speaker 2: going on. When you've got a superstar like Lebron Lebron James,

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Speaker 2: you don't get as much as Windhorse and other guys

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Speaker 2: could say, well, they distanced himself with this. I don't

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Speaker 2: buy that for a second that they're not having some

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Speaker 2: impact and influence over the coaching hiring process. Not telling

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Speaker 2: me Genie Boss, Brop, po Link and company aren't trying

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Speaker 2: to navigate with the understanding of what Lebron James and

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Speaker 2: Anthony Davis want and doing so by reading Tea leaves

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Speaker 2: as with Boden Alter, I mean that becomes the question

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Speaker 2: then how much of the invisible hand in any of

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Speaker 2: these moves was Giannis and Tenna Kumpo and tried to

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Speaker 2: make him happy. Right, you had a guy, you were

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Speaker 2: thirty and thirteen, and you just missed a coach in

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01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 2: Milwaukee this year. So the hand of the star players

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01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 2: certainly in effect. And I guess having a wine a

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01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 2: podcast where you talk basketball and drink wine with the

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01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 2: guy is a good start to build that rapport.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it always is. And you know, Lebron is the

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Speaker 1: type of player that if someone's going to have a say,

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Speaker 1: I guess he kind of deserves it. Now, for Lebron,

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Speaker 1: all this does is put more pressure on him. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: because they're ready. No, because every other guy is the

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Speaker 1: fall guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, well, hey, it's never Ron's fault.

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Speaker 1: He gonna have no one else to blame, all right.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that Lebron is doing to blame me, okay,

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Speaker 1: but obviously he has some people who he gets along

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Speaker 1: with more than others. Hey, the perfect guy will be

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Speaker 1: Tyron Little.

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Speaker 2: But the thing is coach, he's kind of got a contract.

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Speaker 1: He's in a contract. Or Spolstra. The reason I bring

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Speaker 1: those two names up, they went championships with Lebron. They're

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Speaker 1: showing any questions there?

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Speaker 2: Well, Sponstra, that was a guy he tried to get

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Speaker 2: fired his first year.

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Speaker 1: Well maybe, you know, maybe they mended. We ended up winning.

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Speaker 1: He was good for me.

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Speaker 2: Well, you got about bringing back Frank vogel one with him? Yeah, yeah,

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01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 2: but he'd have to commit to paying defense. At this point,

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Speaker 2: I say, screw it all and bring pat Riley back.

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01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 2: Let's go, or bring Phil back as the disembodied head

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Speaker 2: on a television screen. You don't even need physically be here.

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01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 2: Phil will zoom you in.

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Speaker 1: How do you like that?

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about thinking outside the box? Oh goodness, no,

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Speaker 2: I dig your spolster thing. I man, Maybe he's done

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Speaker 2: with Miami.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying those are realistic candidates by any choice.

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Speaker 1: Tyler will probably be the most. Really Well, it's the.

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Speaker 2: Most realistic and logical. But a year left on the deal,

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01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 2: they at letting him go down the hallway there.

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Speaker 1: I'm big for JJ. Let's get some new blood worked

2283
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 1: out with Steve Kerr. Why not? But for Lebron, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, this is clearly your guy. There's no

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01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:55,240
Speaker 1: questions here, so you can't go fussing about it.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like a former player who wants to coach

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01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:01,400
Speaker 2: some day. He's Ryan Hollins, Ryan Hawins following me over

2288
02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome. Coming out next. We've got Dan byer

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Speaker 2: Kerry Rhoades here. Happy Mother's Day for Fox.