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Speaker 1: Well, fellow conspiracy realists, thank you, as always so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us. We have a classic episode for you

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Speaker 1: this evening as we're as we're busy gearing up for

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Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty five, they called me Ben Matt.

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Speaker 2: It seems like.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that long ago, or it seems like it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody wanted to just come on in through one

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Speaker 3: of the you know, secret society portholes that exist just

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Speaker 3: and then he had to go get back on his dirigible.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it was a dirigible and the facts

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Speaker 1: matter here. Yes, it is a true story, or, as

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Speaker 1: Emily Dickinson said, it is the truth told slightly slant.

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Speaker 1: There's this guy named John Hodgman who sort of just

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Speaker 1: drifted through our studio, you know, like a mysterious anti

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Speaker 1: hero in an old Western film, and then said ask

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and basically I'm on television. Secret societies love.

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Speaker 1: Me very specific opinions about regional SODA's and true story

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Speaker 1: insider looks at societies we sometimes call secret because they

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Speaker 1: very much are.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, let's jump into this delightful episode.

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Speaker 4: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 4: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 4: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 4: production of iHeart Radios How Stuff Works.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my

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Speaker 3: name is no.

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Speaker 5: They call me Ben.

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Speaker 1: We are joined as always with our super producer Paul

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Speaker 1: Michigan control decan in spirit. Because our guest super producer

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Speaker 1: Maya Cole is on the ones and Tuesdaday give it

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Speaker 1: up for her. Most importantly, you are you, You are here,

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Speaker 1: and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 5: So check in. First things first, check in.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so this week, you guys, I went to

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Speaker 3: Chuck E Cheese because my son turned four yesterday. As

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Speaker 3: as we're recording this and that, uh, that robot casino

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Speaker 1: Hang on, sorry, we're recording, sir, sir, Hello sir, what's

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Speaker 1: going on in here?

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Speaker 3: Hey wait a second?

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Speaker 2: Oh is this the uh?

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Speaker 2: I feel like, uh yeah, that's adorable. I'm such a fan.

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Speaker 2: What are wait, I'm I'm sorry, I'm John Hodgman.

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Speaker 3: I used to be on television sometimes I thought I

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Speaker 3: recognized you, inspector.

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Speaker 5: That's I, Judge John Hodgman, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I have a podcast as well. Yeah, were you? You

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Speaker 2: Apple Ads. And you know, I don't know what else

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Speaker 2: on my resume. I've traveled all over the world. I've

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Speaker 2: been in the upper echelons of fame, and I've been

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Speaker 2: book about it, did you. Yeah? I did. Actually it's

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Speaker 2: called Medallion status. But that's not why I'm here. I'm

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Speaker 2: and yeah, I have a secret door right into your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that just leads to the to the platform for

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Speaker 5: Oh god, this is some real deranged billionaire.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well that is the character that I used

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Speaker 2: to play on The Daily Show. The guy's just me.

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Speaker 2: Host of the Judge John Hodgmen podcast and author of

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Speaker 2: the new book Medallion Status True Stories from Secret Rooms,

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Speaker 6: And I appeared on his dear friend Chuck Bryant's movie

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Speaker 1: I think you hit this universal, this universal key though,

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Speaker 1: I myself, not being a Diamond Medallion member, have moved adjacent.

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Speaker 2: That's the whole point.

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Speaker 2: That's the That's what makes if you qualify for a

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Speaker 2: But if you don't requalify the next year, then you

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Speaker 2: When I had before this TV show that I was on,

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Speaker 2: So I was racking up the mqms. The medallion qualifying miles.

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Speaker 2: You do? Get? Membership to the sky clubs is the

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Speaker 3: It, Book and Snake, I'm only familiar with Skull and Bone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's you know, there was a cross end

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, maybe we should start something like that, right,

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Speaker 6: So to be fair, you don't know if they were

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Speaker 2: What was what was? But I but I had blacked out,

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm bragging? Yeah, is that sort of like hufflepuff? No? Uh,

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Speaker 2: It's an unnerving thing to have a memory that you

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Speaker 2: And I don't think they thought about me then either.

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Speaker 1: You know here in Atlanta we would kill for some

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Speaker 2: Sorry follow up questions.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I was just going to say, are you okay

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Speaker 2: Umm, well obviously I'm doing it. Sure. Why are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you threatened? Are you threatening and or offering to

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Speaker 5: No, looking out for your personal safety. Quite the opposite.

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Speaker 2: No, they booking snake and invite. They've been inviting me

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean they're they're chilly, they they and

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Speaker 2: let me set around, you know, we have dinner. He

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Speaker 2: But as far as I could tell inside Book and Snake,

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Speaker 2: it's just young, young, interesting young people who have been

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Speaker 2: given this opportunity to play in a windowless building for

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Speaker 2: a while and be friends.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how serious we want to

438
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Speaker 3: get with this, but there is there is something worth

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Speaker 3: exploring that we've talked about before on the show where

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Speaker 3: we had one election where I believe it was George H. No,

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Speaker 3: George W. Bush and John Carey who were both members

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Speaker 3: and members of Skull and Duns and and just that concept.

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Speaker 3: But again, if you break if you really break it down,

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Speaker 3: it's like there are two members of the same fraternity

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Speaker 3: running together. But I think the nomenclature, the title of

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Speaker 3: having it a secret society creates that anxiety within me

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Speaker 3: a little bit. But you know, the Republic of course.

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Speaker 2: I mean if you if you don't, if you don't

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Speaker 2: have diamond medallion and you're not in that sky club,

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Speaker 2: you're wondering what's going on behind those doors. Something, something

451
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Speaker 2: is some freaky is happening people. People are actually being

452
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Speaker 2: treated like human beings in there. Yet.

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Speaker 5: I think that's a very good point.

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Speaker 2: But I'll say something else that's true is that, obviously,

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Speaker 2: if you go to an elite college or institution like

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Speaker 2: Yale or many others already, you're you know, you're forging

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Speaker 2: contacts with people who you know statistically are if not

458
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Speaker 2: likely that you probably know some people who are pretty powerful,

459
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Speaker 2: you know, as you look, I became a literary agent

460
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Speaker 2: and a service journalist, and now I'm a carnival jester.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm nothing. I don't have any power, but

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Speaker 2: I definitely know people. You know, I remember people from

463
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Speaker 2: college who are now in positions of power. Samantha Power,

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Speaker 2: for example, the former the former ambassador to the UN

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Speaker 2: not not not not only powerful, but named Power. It's

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Speaker 2: her name. She and I are college at the same time.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know her, but sure. But you know, these

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Speaker 2: institutions do self select into into groupings, and whether or not.

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Speaker 2: And then if you super select into into something like

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Speaker 2: a secret society, you know, there is a kind of

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Speaker 2: soft conspiracy of acquaintanceship and given people a leg up

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Speaker 2: if possible. And it happens in networks of any kind,

473
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Speaker 2: you know, however, whatever kind of trappings they have church, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: But that said, there is a secret retreat that I

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Speaker 2: attended that I will not name, that is also described

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Speaker 2: in the book. Is a retreat that I was surprised

477
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Speaker 2: to be invited to, hosted by someone who enjoys surrounding

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Speaker 2: him or herself with interesting celebrities, business leaders, government officials,

479
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Speaker 2: former government officials, entertainers, writers, artists. It's a wonderful time.

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Speaker 2: We all have a great time together. It's all off

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Speaker 2: the record. People aren't supposed to talk about what happened.

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Speaker 3: There no weaving spiders allowed.

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Speaker 2: There, no weaving spiders.

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Speaker 3: Oh so it wasn't the Bohemian Club.

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Speaker 2: No, it was not the Lahamian Grove.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: That's I would tell you if I gotten that, there's

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Speaker 2: the thing that I want to go back to. Okay,

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Speaker 2: And it's total it's totally benign, right, and of an

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Speaker 2: evening they might invite somewhat gather everyone together for a

491
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Speaker 2: performance of a kind. And this performance was a professional

492
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Speaker 2: performing pickpocket, an incredibly talented performing pickpocket. Well name because

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Speaker 2: he's an amazing person. Apollo Robins is his name, Look

494
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Speaker 2: him up. He is so skilled. And his bit was

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Speaker 2: inviting audience members on stage and picking their pockets. And

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Speaker 2: he would invite famous people, entertainers or whatever up and

497
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Speaker 2: and talk to them and said, wed you have ever

498
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Speaker 2: breakfast today? And you wouldn't even see him touch them,

499
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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he's holding their wristwatch above

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Speaker 2: their head, behind them, and they didn't know it was gone,

501
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Speaker 2: but the audience sees it, right, and everyone laughs, and

502
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: the famous person laughs because it's okay. It's okay to

503
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Speaker 2: be humiliated a little bit in public. Right, if you're secure,

504
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, right. But there is one government official

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Speaker 2: who would not play. He would not get up on stage.

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Speaker 2: He or she, I should say, they would not get

507
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Speaker 2: up on stage. They would not allow themselves to be

508
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Speaker 2: pickpocketed or to have their wristwatch taken because they could

509
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Speaker 2: not for whatever reason I'd be speculating to guess what

510
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: it was. They could not tolerate having their status reduced

511
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Speaker 2: because they're between their status and status was the only

512
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Speaker 2: thing that stood between them and oblivion. Basically, Wow, and

513
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: this person and has become president. This person, No, this

514
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: person is a former government official. There's no point in

515
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: trying to figure out who it is. Understood, that's not

516
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Speaker 2: the story. This is a parable, you. This is a

517
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: parable about someone who had done some very good things

518
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Speaker 2: in public life, and had made a big mistake in

519
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Speaker 2: public life, and could not tolerate even never mind the

520
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: mention of that big mistake, but even the faintest slap

521
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Speaker 2: of the wrist, of having their wristwatch literally manipulate off

522
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: their wrist in public. It would be too humiliating. And

523
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: they hid their money in their shoe so that they

524
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Speaker 2: wouldn't be they wouldn't have their money their wallet pickpocketing. Wow.

525
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: And you know, when people lose their status or perceive

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Speaker 2: or feel a threat to their status, they will do

527
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: irrational things. That's not the moral of this story. The

528
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Speaker 2: moral of the story is that this happened to meaning

529
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Speaker 2: happened to be held in a Masonic lodge. It was

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Speaker 2: not a Masonic meeting the Mason's. It's a beautiful lodge

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Speaker 2: and a grand meeting room and was one of the

532
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Speaker 2: nicer rooms in this particular town where you could go

533
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Speaker 2: to have an event like this, And the Masons are

534
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: out of money and they needed to rent it to

535
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Speaker 2: this But nonetheless I sat there realizing, so here I am.

536
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Speaker 2: Here's one of the most famous actors in the world.

537
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: Here's this incredible business like the most famous businessman in

538
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Speaker 2: the world. Here's this former government official. There's George R.

539
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 2: Martin allowed him to there. There, there's this famous person

540
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: and that famous person and this powerful person in this

541
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Speaker 2: powerful person, and we're all here. We are literally all

542
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: here together, literally meeting in secret, literally in a Masonic lodge.

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Speaker 2: This is happening right.

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Speaker 5: Now, watching the art of pickpocketing.

545
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: Watching the art of pickpocketing. But you go tell that

546
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: to Alex Jones. I mean, his heart's about to explode anyway,

547
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: because it's full of brisket juice or whatever. But you

548
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: know it's it's the Illuminati is real. The Illuminati is real.

549
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: Like secret meetings of world leaders are happening in Masonic lodges.

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00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: We're not discussing how you know how how to manipulate

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00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: you know, how to manipulate like governments into war to

552
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: form of one world government or anything like that. We're

553
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: basically just entertaining ourselves. They are to hear first, folks,

554
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: the Illuminati is real. And I thought you need terminably.

555
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: I thought you needed to know that.

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Speaker 1: And the and the conversation by closed doors is more

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Speaker 1: like have you tried that jumbalayah at the sky Club?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

559
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Speaker 1: Because I think it's because they let it sit.

560
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: Right well, it's all And the conversation behind doors is

561
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: all people just trying to get jobs off of each

562
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: other because they're afraid they're they're afraid their status is

563
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: slipping too, you know, so youah, I.

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Speaker 3: Do have one question, just really fast. Were you allowed

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Speaker 3: in the time that this occurred. Did you have a

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Speaker 3: cell phone with a camera on it? Because I'm imagining

567
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Speaker 3: a room of of you know, with people of that

568
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: caliber in secret doing a thing like that at a retreat.

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming you would put cell phones away. You'd have

570
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Speaker 3: to mandatorily put away, you know.

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Speaker 2: There no rules about I mean, people were like, you know,

572
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Speaker 2: don't tweet about this. It was low key. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping it was fairly low key. Because I'm telling

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Speaker 2: the story, I'm all not revealing details. I'm afraid they'll

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Speaker 2: be mad at me, but I suspect they won't read my.

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Speaker 5: Book and a book. Yeah, and you want to go back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to go be abrited again. And it

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Speaker 2: was fascinating, It was interesting, and.

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Speaker 1: The book is fascinating as well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: John Hodgman Medallion status True Stories from Secret Rooms. It's

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Speaker 3: Who will Do you have a bailiff for that show?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesse Thorne, my regular bailiff is going to be there,

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Speaker 2: so awesome, and I will I will be selling books there.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you get you you. You may notice that

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Speaker 2: on the cover of the book there is a picture

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Speaker 2: Chompers of the corky. They're very important in the book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're looking at a pamphlet here. Yeah, it's wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a whole book coming right now.

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Speaker 3: That's well, this part's great.

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Speaker 2: So everyone who comes to a book event and buys

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Speaker 2: one of those Corki's designed by Aaron drapland designer of

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Speaker 2: dude designer. And that that is a famous corky pin.

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Speaker 2: Everyone gets one of those just for showing up and

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Speaker 2: buying a book. If you buy two books because maybe

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Speaker 2: you pre ordered one before coming to the event, or

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Speaker 2: you buy two books on site, or you bought an audiobook,

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Speaker 2: and now you get in the prentition whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: You got two books on the sign line, you get upgraded.

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Speaker 2: You get a double corky pin. Whoa three or more books?

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Speaker 2: Yeah or other or other? Uh uh, over the top

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Speaker 2: commitments to the cause you're gonna I'll upgrade you discretionarily

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Speaker 2: to triple Corky Elite status for three Corky's one pin.

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Speaker 1: So since we're on an audio podcast, uh, listeners need

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Speaker 1: to know that. When John said that, we the three

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Speaker 1: of us had I think a fairly dramatic double take.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what are they there? Pins? They're pins like

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Speaker 2: you get from an airplane pilot for going on a plane,

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Speaker 2: for being a kid. They're nothing, but they're elite.

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Speaker 1: And as an adult, if you ask the pilots for

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Speaker 1: the pins, they'll still.

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Speaker 2: Give it to you. Really really, yeah, that's wonderful.

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Speaker 1: You just have to ask nicely and clearly not have

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Speaker 1: that much respect for yourself.

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Speaker 5: That's what I did.

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Speaker 3: Even if I'm silver, I'm getting out silver yet.

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Speaker 2: Stop Shop.

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Speaker 3: Was going so well. My eyes.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, just so bad about John Hodgman.

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Speaker 5: That really happened. He's really we have a door.

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Speaker 2: He disappeared down in the tunnel kind of Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think that went well.

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Speaker 3: I think that was incredible. I want to say, I

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Speaker 3: think he knows more than he's letting on. But he

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Speaker 3: was a very nice guy.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 3: Stuff they don't want you to know. Is a production

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