WEBVTT - TONY BAKER-- From Cream Corn to Comedy Legend

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guest, comedian and actor. Legendary comedian actor, legend legendary. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been in the game long enough to be legendary.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Bakers in the building. How good. I'm very excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be very excited to have you on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>A little concerned about the dish you're gonna be having

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<v Speaker 1>me eat today. I'm concerned. I'm excited because I've never

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<v Speaker 1>had this dish on the show. We've taped like one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifteen episodes, so to never have a dish

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<v Speaker 1>is like very amazing. I literally hate Ramen to the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate max. I've had great Ramen and terrible Ramen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm excited about this dish. But I literally had

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<v Speaker 1>called like five people, like I think he's just testing

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<v Speaker 1>to see if I'm gonna eat this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So go ahead and tell everybody what your dishes.

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<v Speaker 2>So my dish is cream corn sandwiches. Okay, Now this

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<v Speaker 2>is not something I ate on the regular. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a one There was a one time only affair.

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<v Speaker 1>One and done one and done that means it's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember what it tastes like. It was just like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I got cream corn in here, there's bread.

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<v Speaker 1>And before he started taping, he was like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really gonna eat this right, And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>heck no, you know you're gonna eat this with me?

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>First, I don't mind. I mean, I'm Jamaican. So we

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<v Speaker 1>we eat literally everything good at least once.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how it should be at least once.

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<v Speaker 1>So go ahead, start making this. The ingredients are, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the ingredients for your dish today?

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<v Speaker 2>So we got the cream corn. Okay, first, as I can,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't had cream corn. I feel like I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had cream corn since I had the cream corn sandwich.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I can't remember. Yeah, of course cream corn.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the spray, you know. Now, I didn't use

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<v Speaker 2>the coconut oil back then. I think I used just whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we had pam in there, whatever we had.

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<v Speaker 2>I just sprayed the pant over with that. Because I

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<v Speaker 2>grilled the bread and just some wheat bread. It might

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<v Speaker 2>not even been wheat then, I don't know, like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it was wheat. This was like, mind you,

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<v Speaker 2>this was ninety ninety nine. I think this was ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 2>and you maybe even ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 1>So you you went as far as to make shift

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<v Speaker 1>cook this day. So you took the cream corn, you

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<v Speaker 1>heat it up in the pot, I'm assuming, and you

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<v Speaker 1>actually made the bread. So this was a very thought out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I was trying to jazz it up

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<v Speaker 2>as much as possible, like I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack it up for who me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, it was that's been messed, but at least

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<v Speaker 2>I can class it up. Okay, Well, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>when you when you when you grill the bread, classing

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<v Speaker 2>it up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and make me this gormet gormet cream corn.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the last time I had cream corn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like nervous and excited because I remember liking it

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Creek corn was a good time. Yeah, creek corn was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, yeah, when I was a kid, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, you know, taste bush changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We think we better than stuff we used to have.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're vegan now right, I'm one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundred percent vegetarian, mostly vegan. Now. Why I say that

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<v Speaker 2>is because like if I if I want a cookie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, is that real body?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna get the cookie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it's like or if I want, like if

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<v Speaker 2>I go to the waffle house and I get a waffle.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're not gonna okay, if I if I got

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<v Speaker 1>this because you were specific about you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can't find vegan.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I know, because the can stuff they add a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of animal whatever. Okay, So I tend to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>anything with animal life.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, is there a reason for this slide?

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<v Speaker 2>But if it's like you know, like the pork and beans,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, there's gelatine in this animal bones or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I meant, animal bones.

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<v Speaker 2>Gelatine is like usually an animal bone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I didn't know that. So does it smell

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<v Speaker 1>like cream corse, take a whiff of it. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a nostalgic. Yeah, that tastes that tastes that smells official, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I haven't had cream corner

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<v Speaker 2>mad long Okay, Okay, so now I'm gonna get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate electric stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know you told me, but this one gets

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<v Speaker 1>hot real fast looking. Look, why do you hate it?

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<v Speaker 2>You see that, because I feel like I could never

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<v Speaker 2>get the the heat right, and I'll never forget. One

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<v Speaker 2>time I was visiting my brother in Toasta, Oklahoma, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was bragging about my French toast the whole week.

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<v Speaker 2>Then my French toast is legendary. Man, y'all, y'all ain't

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<v Speaker 2>ready for me. And at this time, like he was,

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<v Speaker 2>he was, uh, you know, this girl was living with him.

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<v Speaker 2>His girlfriend had two twin boys and they were like teenagers.

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<v Speaker 2>I had my family there, so it was like I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking cat can I cuss on? Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking cash ship and then I was like, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. And then when I made that

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<v Speaker 2>big breakfast for everybody, I the French toasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrible, all because of the electric So yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was it was burning. I burned the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of the French and I was like, man, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the secret to good French toast is in

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<v Speaker 1>my twin could debate this, but a healthy balance of

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<v Speaker 1>butter and sugar. Am I right? No sugar?

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<v Speaker 2>Disagree?

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<v Speaker 1>Sugar?

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<v Speaker 2>I got sugar. The sugar. You don't need to add

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<v Speaker 2>the sugar to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Fresh tost Oh see, my swe just did that to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be honest. She was like, did you try

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<v Speaker 1>did you try it? And I was like, sugar, because.

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<v Speaker 2>You got the scare what you need the sugar for.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm scared to try your French tos. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>we STI He said it was legendary. No, the trick

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<v Speaker 1>to great French toast is to make sure you add

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<v Speaker 1>cinnamon and sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>Answer you, still you're doing too much? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>No, let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 2>About the sugar on top of the French toes. You

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<v Speaker 2>like that?

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I mean if there was, that's how they restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>I would if there was. But I'll tell you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I just had French toast from my twin the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>She was raving about it, and she said that she

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<v Speaker 1>used a little bit of a combo mix of cinnamon

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<v Speaker 1>with sugar in it. And I tried it. It just

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<v Speaker 1>tasted like cinnamon toast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh did she did? She get the egg and evaporated milk? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>You put evaporated milk in it? You gotta that's a cheat.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta make the rout. The root is essential.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, tell us how to make this good French toast?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you need eggs, a little evaporated milk, thattmeg, cinnamon,

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<v Speaker 2>vanilla extract, and butter is like optional. Use the butter.

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<v Speaker 1>I just used the butter. Yeah, get yeah, of course

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<v Speaker 1>you have that little butter hen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So that's that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Evaporated milkporated milk. So that's like the same as sugar

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<v Speaker 1>kind of but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's but it's not but it's not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to try this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I want to try this as.

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<v Speaker 2>Long as I'm making on the electric stoves fire. So

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<v Speaker 2>and now now that they got like they had this

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<v Speaker 2>French toast, they kind of make bread now where they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cater.

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<v Speaker 1>To French toast, like the brochet bread or something, but

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<v Speaker 1>they had ever made it on brio spread. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I tried it once and I messed it up. It's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn you made me want to try this French toast because.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like out of the tree. The breakfast trio

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<v Speaker 2>and waffles, pancakes, and French toes frenchs number one. French toes,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's made at the highest level, is number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now why I say that because most restaurants fumble the

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<v Speaker 2>French toes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think most restaurants can't cook breakfast period though. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the only place I honestly like if someone were like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's meet for breakfast, the only place I'm choosing this

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Jam Cafe. And that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>They got a good uh, they got the little they

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<v Speaker 2>got like a good vegan scrambling.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, I like I like their little potatoes, but

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere else absolutely not. I'll just cook breakfast in my house.

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<v Speaker 1>But now take me back to what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>during this cream corn sandwich air.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we in college. I went to New Mexican

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<v Speaker 2>State in ninety eight, nineteen ninety eight, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>some people watching him be like, ninety eight, man, did

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<v Speaker 2>they have cars? Then? That's crazy? Was that prohibition al capone?

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<v Speaker 2>It was ninety eight, and so you know we broke

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we getting financial aid. We out here scrambling,

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<v Speaker 2>and at that time, I think I might have been

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<v Speaker 2>working on campus, like works thirty job or whatever in

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Black Programs. So you know, times was hard,

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<v Speaker 2>and we already in the poor state. So we pour

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<v Speaker 2>into poor state, poor college students. So we we ended

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<v Speaker 2>up and at this time, so this was probably I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say this was ninety nine because I was

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<v Speaker 2>an alumni ninety eight, so this was ninety nine when

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<v Speaker 2>I had the cream course sandwich. So I was illegally

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<v Speaker 2>staying with my with my homeboys, Andre and Jamal, they

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<v Speaker 2>had that they were living on on campus. They had

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<v Speaker 2>the four bedrooms. I wasn't supposed to be in there.

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<v Speaker 2>We like, we like broke into one of the rooms

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much, and I was staying in one of the rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Broke into one of the rooms. Yea, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't supposed to be there, got it, got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was staying in there, so I was illegal. Technically

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<v Speaker 2>I was homeless, but not really.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was it was now it's coming full circle. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Technically Visita del Monte was the name of him. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think I got in academic trouble or whatever and

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't stay there anymore. So it was like, well

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<v Speaker 2>the door is open, don't you just you know, crash

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<v Speaker 2>with us. So we in there. And one night, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it was it was cream corn in the crib.

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<v Speaker 2>It was bread. It was toast heck playing dream.

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<v Speaker 1>And all y'all went in on this bread in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Corner I feel like it was just me this night.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay to Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody was because.

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<v Speaker 1>This jagging the box around back. Okay, okay, okay, listen, okay, okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know I'm an eighties baby. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't. We don't have that. I don't think so yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's an l A thing or any city,

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<v Speaker 1>any city, but New York thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So so yeah, so that it was cream corner there, bread,

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<v Speaker 2>want you that bread?

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<v Speaker 1>You make it? Did you at least have a car?

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<v Speaker 1>So you were like just stuck in the crib and

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<v Speaker 1>you had these are my options.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a car, but I didn't have the bread.

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<v Speaker 1>The bread. I had the bread, so you was hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>You said let's make it through. You get in the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen and that's what you whip up.

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<v Speaker 2>This is I was like, let's bring them together.

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<v Speaker 1>At that time, did you know you were inching towards

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<v Speaker 1>the entertainment business at that point or were you what

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<v Speaker 1>were you going to school for?

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to school for I've always wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be an actor, to be honest with you, but I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like, you know, I was in New Mexico at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I was raised in Chicago, moved to New

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico because my brother got stationed there in the Air Force,

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<v Speaker 2>and I ended up going to New Mexico State.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, may you moved to New Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>because your brother, my.

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<v Speaker 2>Oldest brother, he was he joined the Air Force. He

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<v Speaker 2>went to Hawaii for his first order. Then New Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>was his second order, and he was like, watch ya

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<v Speaker 2>come stay you know, with me in New Mexico. And

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<v Speaker 2>my mom was born and raised in Chicago, so she

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm down for something different. And at that time,

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<v Speaker 2>I was scared of nuclear war, okay, So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm down to move because Chicago gonna get hit early

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<v Speaker 2>in New York get I was terrified, okay, nuclear awards.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, uh yeah, I'm down. So we

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<v Speaker 2>moved out there because of that, Okay. So I went

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<v Speaker 2>to New Mexico State and I was majoring in psychology first,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was never like college was never something I

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted to do, but I was like, let me

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<v Speaker 2>just do it. I was going to the community college

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<v Speaker 2>at first and clovies New Mexico and then my friend

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<v Speaker 2>Andre was like, Yo, I'm going to New Mexico State.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'll go with you, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>went out there. So majored in psychology. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>initial major. But it was boring.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, psychology was boring. I was, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, good to know I've always wondered about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but guess to know I was boring.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, mind you, I'm just doing the basics. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even get into the heavy psychology courses. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, man, I ain't feeling none of this because

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I wanted to act. I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be a TV and movies because I

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<v Speaker 2>was obsessed with the TV and movie, especially movies. But

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<v Speaker 2>New Mexico just felt at that time, it felt like

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<v Speaker 2>a world away from Hollywood. I was like, yeah, mind

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<v Speaker 2>you fast forward they would, but at that time I

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, ain't not cracking out majoring something regular,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it was psychology and then I changed it

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<v Speaker 2>to secondary education science.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a hard subject.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was gonna I was going to teach because

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I like biology, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I could teach, like, you know, because I like because

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like teaching would be a form of performing.

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<v Speaker 2>So and I'm good with like the youth. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, secondary education, I can teach middle school,

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<v Speaker 2>high school. Them. Science classes was kicking my ass. Chemistry

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<v Speaker 2>told my ass whole open twice. They then ecology tore

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<v Speaker 2>me in half, Genetics tore me in half. Physics I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't even I was, I'm dropping this one, and so like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do the science, you know, astronomy, ace, but

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<v Speaker 2>everything else tore me up. So I was like secondary education,

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<v Speaker 2>social studies. I changed my major again.

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<v Speaker 1>I can teach history.

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<v Speaker 2>History is not hard. That ain't no formulas, ain't no

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<v Speaker 2>X outside of the parentheses, none of that. Ain't no

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<v Speaker 2>quadratic equations. I got to worry about. So I changed

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<v Speaker 2>it to that. And then that was the plan. I

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<v Speaker 2>was all right, I'm gonna teach.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you did good in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I was thriving.

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<v Speaker 1>I was okay. Now now I can feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>found the path.

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<v Speaker 2>I found a path.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So did you end up graduating with it?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't graduate because it was like while in college,

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<v Speaker 2>I auditioned for a play. It was a miso, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I played Crooks. Crooks is like this disabled black man

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<v Speaker 2>within the play. So I played that won an award

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<v Speaker 2>for it. And then because I never thought I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do theater, and I was like, man, I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to do TV and film theater. Looks I did theater.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, this is dope.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, this is this is dope. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, so at this time, I've already

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<v Speaker 2>put years into these other steps, so now I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I should major in theater the whole guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn oh that was an option. Yes, okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, but I was always just hated.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you end up in the theater play

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<v Speaker 1>you just tried out without? Okay? Okay? Cool?

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<v Speaker 2>On campus? It was a it was a play on campus.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, let me audition at the role, did well,

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<v Speaker 2>got the award. Then I did another play with that

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<v Speaker 2>same director. It was like a holiday place. So we

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<v Speaker 2>were playing various characters.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this one guy saw me. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>saw me of mice and Men. So he was doing

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<v Speaker 2>his own version Offenses by August Wilson. Yeah, so he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted me to play Troy in the lead. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, man, that's a lot to memorize. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>did it. I remember that whole thing, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like at that point, I was just like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going for that act. I have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was always into it. I was always like I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing like vine videos in the nineties, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>was just making little sketches and shins and stuff like

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<v Speaker 2>that with a camquarder and just like I was always

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<v Speaker 2>on that type of time, and I was just like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I just gotta go for it because I knew if

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<v Speaker 2>I got my degree, yeah, I'm not gonna go as hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be teaching. I'm gonna be grading papers, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be teaching summer school.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's your What was your family saying in all

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<v Speaker 1>of this?

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<v Speaker 2>My family was like whatever you want to do, Like

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<v Speaker 2>they would never it was never any like you should

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<v Speaker 2>do this, you should do that. It was just like

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<v Speaker 2>okay either way. It's all Like I was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>scared to tell my dad that I was dropping out

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<v Speaker 2>because he was more those grades doing. My mom was

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<v Speaker 2>just like do you Pops was just like the grades

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<v Speaker 2>looking like he was sating like extra money if the

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<v Speaker 2>grades were good. So I was just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>So how'd you break it to him?

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<v Speaker 2>I just told him, Uh, I was like, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>I was too full semester shy of a degree. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, yeah I was. I was right there. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, but I know, I know my son,

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<v Speaker 2>and I knew like once I started teaching, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be going to these I'm not gonna be scrambling.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be teaching grading papers and like, nah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>that safety there. It's just like but if I go

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<v Speaker 2>out here where this is the focus.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was your next plan? So you deliver the

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<v Speaker 1>news to dad. He takes it pretty okay.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, Okay, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't send it no more money, you know, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm asking Like was he like that?

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<v Speaker 2>I never said that, but it was just like but

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<v Speaker 2>I really wasn't hitting.

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<v Speaker 1>Him up for they Yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, this is what I'm doing because I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>like strong will and so I'll be like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even want to hear what you got to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. So then what was your plan? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you where did you go from there? Did you move

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<v Speaker 1>to la? What did you do?

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened was so at this time I started

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<v Speaker 2>doing all the plays and stuff in like two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and three. I got married in two thousand and three also,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we had we had two boys before we

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<v Speaker 2>got married. We ended up having the boys and then

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<v Speaker 2>we got married in two thousand and three. So my

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<v Speaker 2>ex wife is she's a nurse, so she can get

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<v Speaker 2>a job anywhere. So it's just like she was just

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<v Speaker 2>like CALLI. She had a cousin that was already out here,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's a nurse as well, so she had that

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<v Speaker 2>end and so it was just like all right, So

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<v Speaker 2>she was down. So we made the move in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and six. Now at this time, my oldest son

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<v Speaker 2>was six, my youngest probably four, and so made the move,

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<v Speaker 2>came out here living Orange for that first year.

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<v Speaker 1>Living Orange, Orange County, Orange County. What was it expensive

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<v Speaker 1>back then? It's always been oh okay. I was just kidded.

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<v Speaker 1>And so because she already had relationships, Yeah there, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a nice area, that's ex area. But yeah, how

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<v Speaker 1>was you haling that?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, when you're not from here,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just looking at the little map. Oh I could

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<v Speaker 2>just drive right there, but then that traffic is tear

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<v Speaker 2>my booty.

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<v Speaker 1>Hole Loya his booty hole references.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you were going to reading maps too, hungh?

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<v Speaker 2>Because when I had the I had the atlas, remember

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<v Speaker 2>the big fig Yeah booty Atlas you can get from Walmart. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm using that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know how, because when I first moved here,

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<v Speaker 1>I would try to read those maps and I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>lost in the in the same two miles for like hours,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know how to read this thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>then God, map Quest, map Quest came and saved my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Map Quest saved my ass.

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<v Speaker 1>But so you move here, your is your wife now

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<v Speaker 1>at this point like the primary breadwinner?

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<v Speaker 2>Why one thousand? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>How did that make you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Man? So I was the house husband at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm holding the kids down, I'm getting them signed

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<v Speaker 2>up for school, I'm taking them to school, all that done.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm handling the board, I'm cooking, I'm doing all this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's cool, I'm doing I was the housewife.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, But how I have to ask these questions because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know, But like, how did you handle that?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you? Just Like I know what I'm here for,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know it's going to take time. How did

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<v Speaker 1>she handle that, Like what kind of strains, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>was the emotional behind the scenes, Like how did you

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<v Speaker 1>feel during that period?

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<v Speaker 2>Emotionally? For me, I felt like a failure in a

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<v Speaker 2>sense because it was like because my wife, she knew

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<v Speaker 2>she was going to be a nurse from high school.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was just like boom pile, four years degree,

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<v Speaker 2>me changing my major, I'm failing. I'm on academic probation.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. There's a lot of uncertainty.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was in I was in limbo in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of drive, career goals. I'm in limbo from like essentially

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight to when I started doing stand up in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight. Wow. Even even though I picked

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<v Speaker 2>up on the acting thing and I was like fun,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was still just like.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course because I'm not right. Oh father, Now you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't be new. I should have figured all this out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm in my head a lot. So so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that gets in your head. It's like, man, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, Like I don't want this to

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<v Speaker 2>be even though I know you gotta work hard at it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just like I got a family though, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and so.

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<v Speaker 1>So where you're like juggling like whether you're making the

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<v Speaker 1>right decisions too or And then it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like and then when you when you get out here,

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<v Speaker 2>it's daunting, like you have the fantasy in your head

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm gonna get out the greyhound, the director's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>see me. I want you my new picture. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>so but that's not the that's not the reality. So

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<v Speaker 2>the reality is you're doing extra work. You're sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>traffic driving you on set doing extra work for scraps

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<v Speaker 2>for long hours. And yeah, that's the reality. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm just like, oh man, this sucks. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not this is not what I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>And so how's your wife at the time dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>did you kind of going through the motions in her

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<v Speaker 1>being the primary did she handle it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>She did, Like in hindsight, she she handled it like

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<v Speaker 2>a g because she was you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>because she was working because on her end, she was

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<v Speaker 2>doing what she always sought out to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was happy. She had like good home and

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<v Speaker 1>then she had her career.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, she being a nurse, she's trying different things

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 2>within that and was always able to find work because

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<v Speaker 2>we lived in Orange that first year and then we

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<v Speaker 2>moved to Burbank. Was a much better location because.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, especially for your career. Yeah, that's exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like Burbank felt like a small town right

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<v Speaker 2>next to La so I can just go over the

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<v Speaker 2>hill and go to an audition or whatever and it

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<v Speaker 2>was just like you come back, it was safe, were good.

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was just like perfect.

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 2>The only thing it was a little too non black.

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>But other than that, I'm like, something smells like it's burning.

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what this is an extra smoky right,

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>and this is what I'm talking about with the electric stove.

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 2>It's always some bullshit.

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Like something's burning. I smell it.

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:37.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what changed?

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>What changed? Is it your toast?

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<v Speaker 2>It can't be the toast? Is it? I just dropped

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<v Speaker 2>these that's extra smoky?

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<v Speaker 1>That look. Okay, we're gonna pray that Tony doesn't burn

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<v Speaker 1>down the set. So so in two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 1>now is this in two thousand and eight when you

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Burbank or when did when.

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<v Speaker 2>The Burbank two thousand and seven?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so then at six to seven was orange and

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<v Speaker 1>so you were doing acting auditions, and then it was

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:09.440
<v Speaker 1>once you moved to Burbank, you try out, you start

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<v Speaker 1>doing common stand up.

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I started doing stand up in two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what was that first experience like and what made

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.719
<v Speaker 1>you actually say, Okay, I'm gonna go for stand up.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened was we gotta we gotta go back

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<v Speaker 2>to New Mexico State again. Okay, So I was very

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<v Speaker 2>much involved in.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, it smells official. Yeah, I think you

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:36.400
<v Speaker 1>don't like this.

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 2>You said, what you don't like this? I mean I might.

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I am hungry. I haven't eaten today, so.

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I ate because I knew what we were gonna eat. Yeah,

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>because I just was like, man, I don't know. I

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 1>thought you were pranking me for a second.

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Little faith. Now we can do this two ways.

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 1>You can either I'm gonna do it the way you

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.160
<v Speaker 1>did it. I think I'm gonna pour it on here.

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Pour it on the bread and fold its folded. Or

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<v Speaker 2>you could just make it a real sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 2>The reason I did the fold is because it's wet.

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, it's cream corn. So having a

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 2>sloppy sandwich like that. That's not a sloppy Joe just

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't make a lot of sense. I'd rather do the fold.

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<v Speaker 1>This is crazy, but what happened in New Mexico. Go

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>take us back to New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me get back up in here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to try this too.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be too excited. Man, Lord you expectators.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, So just so you know, I broke my

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 1>little bread in half. I'm putting my like this right, yeah.

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I just I can't believe this I did. Man.

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I literally was like, oh, he's breaking us.

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't do that to you. All right, here we go.

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Will it tastes like bread and cream corn? That's all

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<v Speaker 2>we live?

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<v Speaker 1>I would eat the preme corn playing man.

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.880
<v Speaker 2>The bread is just to add some extra half.

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the bread and cream corn isn't isn't hidden, but

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>try it.

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Try it.

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Bite of that prem corn straight. Let me tell you something,

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>it's remarkably great. You don't you will go home and

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>get some cream corn after this.

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like old time.

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Tell me it ain't great.

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 2>That's a good time. Cream corn is good corn? Man?

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Why did we give up on cream corn? I believe

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:35.959
<v Speaker 1>how great it is.

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why we gave up on cream corn.

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 2>We turn our backs. Hold on, we turned my clock.

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll be intermitting faster, inter minute.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? You don't eat till three o'clock?

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, usually, like sometimes even later. Hold on coolining, So

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm breaking my fast on this show. Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. We appreciate you. But I gotta say this.

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I give up preme corn. It

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>is simply amazing. I'm having some I have extra hands.

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Tell me right, cream corn, it's vegan. What are you

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna do?

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 2>It ain't crazy.

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>By the way, for all y'all listeners, Tony is in

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>remarkable shape. Remarkable shape. I was like trying to pick

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the aprons. And you know, I try to stay away

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 1>from white because I'm a sizeable person. But you're in

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>such great shape. I was like, he can handle white.

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't need to hide. But no, cream corn is Honestly,

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I would I would ditch the bread, but the cream

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>corn cream cool. That is amazing cream corn. No, I

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>don't think so I have I have a terrible memory,

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>though I've probably seen it, don't remember. I'm gonna eat

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>all this.

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Cream corn anyway. So while I'm in New Mexico State,

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, I'm just creative. You know, I'm a performer, naturally,

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I guess. And so I'm hosting whatever the Department of

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Black Programs was doing I was involved in. So like,

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 2>if we had an MC battle, I would be the host.

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 2>If we having a pageant, I was hosting that. It

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 2>was just I was always like I wanted to get

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 2>my creative juices out.

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just doing all that, and you were obviously

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>good at it to keep letting me be do it.

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It was just like, and I was naturally funny.

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't even trying to be funny. I didn't even

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 2>become aware of my humor and being funny until so

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I was doing all that hosting because growing up I

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 2>was funny, but my older brothers never laughed. So it's

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>like I'm at the crib when.

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm cracking their.

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Jokes, they're giving me nothing give you. I'm the youngest,

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 2>so it was just like, look at me, the kid.

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, Man, I'm trying to get it.

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to get my little jokes. I go to

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 2>bed and so so I'm in school thinking I'm not funny.

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm cracking up my classmates. They laughing, but it's still

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>just like I ain't funny at home. So I'm just like,

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they're laughing at it. So in

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>my mind I'm not even registering the effect. And so

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>then when I started liking girls, girls think I'm funny.

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 2>But at that time, I don't want to be funny.

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I want to be the heart throb. I want you

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 2>to be like you know what I'm saying, because we

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't put heart throb and humor together. Were d Yeah,

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>you were cool and sexy. You were that guy, you

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, you divante from jobsy or whatever.

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. So it's like, you're funny,

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, man, i ain't trying to be funny.

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to give you the squinty eyes and my

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 2>shirt is off but it's on, and so never register

0:31:56.400 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 2>in the comedy. So I'm just like whatever, So I'm

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 2>always funny. So fast forward back to college, I'm still funny,

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 2>not even trying to be funny. It's just funny. And

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 2>so I was at a concert in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 2>It was common common was on the Electric Electric Circus tour.

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>So me and my brother at that concert, this girl

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 2>comes out of nowhere like you're hilarious, and I'm like,

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 2>you know me, She's like, yeah, you hosted that MC

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 2>battle at New Mexico State. You are hilarious. And that's

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 2>what it registered like, Man, I'm must be really funny

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 2>because this girl came out of nowhere with this, and

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 2>so I was just like, it just echoed. It always echoed,

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and I was just like, I'm funny. That's crazy. And

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>then you start thinking it's like the end of the

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 2>usual Suspects. I'm piecing it.

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>All together, like, Yo, why did it take till two

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven or two thousand and eight for you

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>to actually act on the common side Now?

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, all right, I want to act. Though

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 2>that was always the focused like, even though I grew

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>up watching stand up, I never liked was like I

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 2>want to do that. I want to act, and so

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I was just like and then I got to thinking

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 2>about all the comedians that became actors. I was like,

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 2>that's a nice transition acting. Thinking about Robin Williams was

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 2>the main in print for that, because he was doing

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 2>dramatic and comedic, and he was a stand up commershore

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>like Robin Williams is the template, and so I was

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 2>just like, maybe I can get noticed doing stand up.

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 2>That's why. That's what gave me the drive to try

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 2>to stand up?

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 4>Okay, And then then when I did it, I was like,

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 4>this is it, this is what I was supposed to

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 4>be doing.

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Wow, the whole time was supposed to be stand up.

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 2>And so I was like, and so once I did

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 2>that first open mic, that went well. Then five minutes

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 2>at the Ha Ha in North Hollywood, it went well.

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I went every day. I was going back every day.

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 2>It was NonStop.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, now, when did you start elevating

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to work in other clubs? Did they just start reaching

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:12.720
<v Speaker 1>out or you start making relationships?

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.800
<v Speaker 2>So in LA there's open mics all over the city.

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 2>So we're just doing the open mic circuit. We're doing

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 2>We're going to the comedy comedy store signing up for

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 2>their open mic. We're doing the improv, We're doing the

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Laugh Factory, We're doing all these spots, We're doing these

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:30.240
<v Speaker 2>coffee houses. Were doing every every piece of comedy stage

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 2>we can get our hands on. We were doing that.

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 2>So that's how you start getting into these other clubs

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 2>and so and people see you like, hey, man, do

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>my show, and I'm doing Bringer shows, I'm doing all

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>kinds of comedy competitions. I was just doing everything.

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>And now LA is a tough market when it comes

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 1>to comedy because everything that I've understood LA comedy to

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>be is like the clubs out here don't really pay

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that well or pretty terrible compared to New York.

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they they like those open mics. I was doing that.

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I started doing. I paid for that stay. I remember.

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember knowing that like LA usually pay, beginning to

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>pay every time, it could be a coffee shop, wherever

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:19.280
<v Speaker 1>you get paying up perform. And then at what point

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:23.879
<v Speaker 1>during this whole career do you start to see uh,

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>like a hope towards money, money land prom money, promised land,

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>because I'm sure it was like a long road. And

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>at this point, you know this is what two thousand

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.919
<v Speaker 1>and eight, you're like, Okay, I'm in now, you found

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you found your niche. How long for that niche until

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you start like actually getting a check that's like, hey, honey,

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>look what I brought home.

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 2>It was the first time I was like where I

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 2>got like substantial three figures.

0:35:52.520 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, three.

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 2>We did a road gig because I had you remember

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 2>it though, absolutely, this is the first road gig I did.

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 2>It was ridiculous when I think about it now, how

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:14.720
<v Speaker 2>much I get paid for the amount of drive.

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that's still exciting now.

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 2>So my wife's cousin, my ex wife's cousin, he was

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 2>doing stand up. So he was the one that took

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 2>me to the High High to go up. His name

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 2>was to Sean Barrett, and so he was like, yo,

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 2>we got a gig in New Mexico, you know, And

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 2>it was like so they pretty much I drove my

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 2>car out. There was me and him and two other comedians.

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 2>So we drove all the way out to New Mexico.

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 2>This is like eleven hour drive and to do this

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.800
<v Speaker 2>winery or whatever. And so we get out there. I

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 2>think I ended up just getting three hundred That was

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 2>my cut. I don't know, you know what else everybody

0:36:57.640 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>else made.

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, this is that's kind of

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 1>cool though, right right? And how long was it set?

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 2>So I ended up doing like twenty five minutes okay,

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 2>And this this is early on, like I was like, man,

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I had that much material. It was just like and

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 2>then I ended up staying with like some friends of

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 2>mine or whatever, while the rest of the comedians was

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.839
<v Speaker 2>at the hotel or whatever or the dorms wherever they

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 2>put us up at. Now I get people out here,

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 2>I'll be over here. And so I was just like,

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 2>man with three hundred, even though you know, I drove

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 2>my car, it was justus.

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>That's still exciting to know that, like you got to

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>do something you love compared to the hourly rate of anything.

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>If you think about it, it's like an incredible feat.

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, at least that.

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Was the most tamony money I had seen at that time.

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>So then you go home, you brag, and you're like,

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. Now you're like, I gotta get more.

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. It was like, okay, there is something to this.

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 2>The road is where the money is, so now I

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 2>have to get to the point where I can work

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 2>on the road. And so but I was just always

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>just trying to get better, putting my hands and everything

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I can get my hands on, winning some comedy competitions

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 2>which brought money and bookings, and so it was just

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 2>like it was that it was that process of just like,

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, doing everything, not turning away from stuff and

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 2>just growing, getting my name out there and meeting other comedians.

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:28.760
<v Speaker 1>And at this point, you're still doing the house husbands

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 1>during the day.

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 2>During the day, I'm getting up in the morning, bags

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 2>under vines, getting the boys ready.

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 1>For school, or making like you don't understand what I'm

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>going through right.

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, So here here's here's the moment where it was

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>just like it was a dust up because I was

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:52.719
<v Speaker 2>still playing video games too. So yeah, she came off

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:54.720
<v Speaker 2>from work one time and I was on call of duty.

0:38:54.800 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 2>She was just like nah. I was like, she's I

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 2>can tell she was just like, nah, you over here.

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm over here working and you over here and gaming

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.839
<v Speaker 2>it up. I know what that looked like. And so

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, at.

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>This point, the kids are at school.

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing they was in school, like she had got

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 2>off early or whatever. I felt like I got caught.

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I rather had got caught with my dick and somebody else.

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>You feel what you feel like.

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.399
<v Speaker 2>I felt like, oh you what you're doing home? I'm

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 2>on I'm on call of duty. You know. I was

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.320
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh man, I felt like cold busted.

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's hilarious.

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 2>And then but then there was a moment like later

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 2>on it was just like I kind of I kind

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 2>of went off a little bit because it was like

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I do do a lot, you know, so I was

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 2>just like, you don't know what it's like to hit

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 2>it with you know what it's like, No know what

0:39:54.440 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 2>it's like. I'm getting these boys together, I'm doing this

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 2>and that It was just like while also feeling like

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 2>less of a man because she's the bread winner.

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but I love to hear that you you

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 1>I hate to say it, but I love to hear

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.320
<v Speaker 1>that you had to experience that side.

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was the wife that was getting overlooked for

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 2>my contribution. And then I got a job after that.

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 2>After that moment, I was like, let.

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Me get a job like a day job so you

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.240
<v Speaker 1>can still do the night still.

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 2>I had to find a job where it was flexible

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 2>enough to where I could still pursue acting comedy still

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:42.720
<v Speaker 2>hold the kids down. So I was able to find

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 2>something through my friend Sean Jones. It was like an

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 2>inventory where we counted inventory at different stores. You can

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 2>pretty much set your own schedule. So because of that moment,

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, let me get a job. So I

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:59.720
<v Speaker 2>was still holding the boys down.

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>So now now you're at least you're you're like, hey,

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm you was you was really doing new thing, Okay.

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I like that. I like that I was trying to traumatizing.

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to I was trying to do the

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 2>best that I could while still staying focused on the

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:17.720
<v Speaker 2>reason why.

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I can find the balance. I like that you did that.

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's cool because it was like, man, you know

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 2>it was And I didn't hold that against her because

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I know what that looked like. You know what I'm saying,

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not here working and you're playing call of duty.

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, you know, so I was like,

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 2>all right, I just had that. I just had to

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 2>have that little blowout real quick. But then I was like,

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 2>you know what, she right, let me let me contribute

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:47.359
<v Speaker 2>money as well. Yeah, and so that's why I got

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 2>that job.

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Problem. So yeah, when does it trickling where you have

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 1>where you get to the point where you're like by

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>inventory job, Well.

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 2>I quit that job pretty quickly because it was like

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I was doing because all I'm thinking about while I'm

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 2>doing that gig, because this is at night, because this

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 2>is after the stores closed, I'm just thinking about.

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was allowing you to do comedy and

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>take care of the.

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 2>No, it was it was it was a night gig.

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh, so you were allowed you could make money, but

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>you could take care of the boys, but you couldn't

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 1>do comedy.

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Right. It was just like, this ain't gonna work because

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 2>I was like, because it had to be when the

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 2>stores were, you know, down. So I was just like,

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking about comedy the whole time. Yeah, taking

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 2>the inventory, I'm thinking about material. And so it was

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 2>just like, so I was, you know, scheduling myself so

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I can still do comedy several days a week and work.

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 2>And then I was like, once I started getting more

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:50.359
<v Speaker 2>and more gigs, I was, I just quit sending in

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 2>my schedule.

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you were starting to get enough to like

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>phase out the inventory. Yeah, and without your wife being.

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, because you know, because she's all the work

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 2>that was being put in.

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and well she I'm sure she saw the effort too, like, hey,

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>he's trying.

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:06.479
<v Speaker 2>He listened, he tried.

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I think women they wanted to see effort. You heard me,

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you heard me. It penetrated, right, I'm.

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:14.879
<v Speaker 2>Definitely penetrated for sure.

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>So at what point in your career are you like,

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I one hundred percent on this craft. Is it like

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 1>your first acting gig or is it like your first

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 1>what's that first big pivotal moment where you're like, I

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 1>got this like one hundred percent, never looking back with

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 1>a check attached, because I think until you fully get

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a check that can sustain yourself, it's still a little

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 1>bit of still am I doing the right thing? It's

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.280
<v Speaker 1>still still oh still.

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Like that kind of sort of not necessarily, but comedy

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 2>as much as acting per still because you know I'm

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 2>not I'm not an established actor like that. Yeah, still

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>to this day. So it's like, but comedy is like,

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 2>here's what I loved about comedy more so than acting,

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 2>where I felt like, Okay, I can keep this going.

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Of course, social media has changed the game tremendously.

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:09.320
<v Speaker 1>And you dominated it pretty well.

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:13.320
<v Speaker 2>It's it's allowed me to for a lot of people

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.279
<v Speaker 2>to see me everywhere, and so now if I come

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 2>to your city's it's Tony, you know, even if even

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 2>if you know me for the voice, so you still

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 2>be like, let's go see him live, Let's see what

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 2>he's he's like. Live and so it's like, ah, And

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 2>the reason I focused so hard on stand up over

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 2>acting was because I was more in control of my

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 2>own destiny with the stand up. You know, with acting,

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 2>you're at the mercy of casting, director, producer, director, script whatever.

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.280
<v Speaker 2>There's so many things that are out of your control

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.760
<v Speaker 2>when you're just an actor. You don't have the right look,

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 2>you didn't look right on camera with this other person, whatever,

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 2>whether you book it, whether you don't book it, it's

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 2>so much out of your control. It's just like I

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 2>can't live like that. But stand up, I control the

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 2>table more. It's like I can book my own gigs.

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I can sign up for this, I can do this,

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I can I can do my own show and just

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 2>promote it myself. And there's so many avenues that I

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 2>have so much more.

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a business owner. Now, I feel like

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm for real because it's like I'm putting all the

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 2>work in and I'm seeing the results of the work

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting in, and then when I do perform, I'm

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 2>getting the feedback from the from the customer base directly.

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 2>So it's just like, oh, I had a great time.

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like and I was able to control that myself.

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.239
<v Speaker 2>And so that's what made me be like, all right,

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 2>stand up is the.

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Is the move now when you look at the way

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:46.399
<v Speaker 1>things have changed, because now we're in a whole different era.

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Like I always tell my dad, like he'll talk to

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>me about a show, and I'm like, Dad, it was

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the last time you really went home and watched TV? Yeah, Like,

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I barely know how to work my TV

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>at this point. I know there's a Netflix button, Yeah

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>there's Amazon. But you know what I'm saying, Like I

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>push whatever button or like slide to the icon. But

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the last time I actually flipped through a television, I

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:09.800
<v Speaker 1>can't tell you. And I heard not gonna say the

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 1>name drop the person. But I was just telling Jerry

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 1>back there that like Amazon is now paying for content

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 1>way more than even networks are. Right, So now when

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>you see the ship, do you still feel like acting?

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Like you can't control acting the way you controlled comedy still.

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Because it's like unless I was like a writer, director

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, it would be a different conversation.

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 2>But since I'm just like purely just on the acting

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 2>side of it right now, it's like I still got

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.879
<v Speaker 2>auditions still, gotta unless they come to me with like, yo,

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 2>we want you in this. That's that's the dream, that's

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 2>the ideal situation. I have books stuff like that. But

0:46:52.600 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>like and now too, it's we're so oversaturated with content

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 2>and different platforms and where you can see anything. It

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 2>becomes like because you got Netflix, you got Amazon, and

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 2>now you.

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Have all these other people that are like I want

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to create my own.

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and so it's just like, so it's people are

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 2>oversaturated with like choices options, so it's a lot of

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 2>content out there, and so it's just like we got

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 2>streaming platforms and you know, movie theaters are struggling, and

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:25.520
<v Speaker 2>so it's just like and I'm just sitting there like, well,

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:29.399
<v Speaker 2>regardless of what happens, as long as it is there's

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 2>not another pandemic, there's no substitute for live entertainment ever. Yeah,

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 2>you gotta take your girl out. Yes, you gotta take

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.439
<v Speaker 2>your girl out. Y'all can't be watching Netflix all the time.

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 2>Let's go Somewhere's go somewhere, Let's go somewhere. I want

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:48.359
<v Speaker 2>to be out, I want to be cute, I want

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 2>to be somewhere exactly. And so live entertainment does that,

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 2>so it's like and stand up is live.

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:56.799
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, so what would you say, like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest things to digest as a comedian as far

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<v Speaker 1>as as all the way up to this date, like

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the hardest things to like digest

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<v Speaker 1>as a comic?

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<v Speaker 2>The hardest thing is just like the struggle. It's like,

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, you go through so much comedy, years and

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 2>years of just like just getting by. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. But even then, like I got divorced

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twelve, so I was living off of stand

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<v Speaker 2>up and whatever I booked on the sketch side or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's when I started working with all death

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, and I was like, whoa, it

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 2>was like every month, I was like, thank you laugh

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:42.319
<v Speaker 2>actory I'm just but I'm living off the craft. But

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 2>it was just like.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you like, you're surviving every month? Yes, yeah, okay, okay,

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 1>I know what that's like. I'm familiar with that doing

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<v Speaker 1>that today.

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<v Speaker 2>Surviving month. Let's go care me. I won this competition.

0:48:58.040 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Who needed that?

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<v Speaker 1>And you're and you're also I'm guessing you're amazing with

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>money at this point. Oh yeah, like you know how

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to live on a budget. You know how your cash

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>flow works.

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<v Speaker 2>Budget. Oh, I love that. I was just like h

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and I had a roommate, so that that's taking some

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<v Speaker 2>of the edge off. And so I'm just like bare minimum,

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 2>getting the boys what they need, saving as much as possible,

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 2>paying the rent, paying the utilities, Uh, anything wrong with

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:30.319
<v Speaker 2>the car, just like you know, I've just been good

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<v Speaker 2>with money.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, you know. And so now that's something you had

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<v Speaker 1>to learn during this whole pursuit or did were you

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<v Speaker 1>like that before?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I started learning it once. I was in college,

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<v Speaker 2>those college days and we was dead broke. We was

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<v Speaker 2>dead broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like, yeah, I could tell because you was

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<v Speaker 1>eing bread with this cream of corn.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you something I learned it squandering the financial aid money.

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, okay okay.

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, yo, I squandered all that money

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<v Speaker 2>on clothes or whatever. And so now I'm just like,

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking like a jackass now because I'm in the

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<v Speaker 2>super struggle and they don't have to pay this money

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<v Speaker 2>back because I got loans, and so it was just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>so those those were the lessons my dad always told us, Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>save your money, save your money, man. Watch out man,

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<v Speaker 2>watch out, you know, and so he instilled in us

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<v Speaker 2>early like save your money. We was like all right, sure,

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 2>but then it was like he was right and so

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<v Speaker 2>all of that and I'm still that way, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like this year, well, twenty twenty four, that's the most

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<v Speaker 2>money I ever spent in like a year, because it

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<v Speaker 2>was just like I was just sitting on money, all

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 2>the money I had accumulated over all this time. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, okay, I need to buy a house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been seeing your stories. You got a nice house.

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 1>You're renovating it and building it.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally bought a house and it was like and

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<v Speaker 2>this was after like you know, I paid my mom's

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<v Speaker 2>house all off, and then I was just like I

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<v Speaker 2>still didn't have a house myself, but I was I

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<v Speaker 2>was perfectly happy with doing that for I'm like, man,

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 2>life is yeah, I could check out right now and

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:13.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm good. But it was like and then my my

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:16.839
<v Speaker 2>ex girlfriend she was just like, well, think about like

0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, something you want to leave behind for sincere

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<v Speaker 2>and so.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, oh, you right, generational wealth, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it was.

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 2>And so it was just like all right, I got

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<v Speaker 2>to make a move because I was scared to buy

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<v Speaker 2>a house because it just looked like a lot CALLI

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<v Speaker 2>price is a ridiculous crazy I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like the first time I bought a house. As

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<v Speaker 1>an entrepreneur, you have imposter syndrome. You're like, are they

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 1>really gonna believe that I'm going to survive? And buying

0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>a house, I think is the ultimate test because a

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<v Speaker 1>bank has to believe you're not going to go broken. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I want to know, like, how did it

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>feel to know that the bank was like you're approved?

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<v Speaker 1>And did you feel like, yo, I like I'm official

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<v Speaker 1>or did you just know I mean the whole time

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:01.600
<v Speaker 1>or did you have a little bit of imposter syndrome

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 1>throughout the whole thing and then you get that final

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>stamp of For me, at least, it was like, yo,

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a legit, right, I'm legit. They said yes to

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:13.319
<v Speaker 1>the craziest to the craziest gammel of life because they

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:15.200
<v Speaker 1>are rigorous. They're like, why did you move this money

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:17.759
<v Speaker 1>to this money in this account to discount discount? Why

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 1>did you do this and this and this?

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<v Speaker 2>There? Maybe in there ye ask too many questions. I

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:25.799
<v Speaker 2>was legit. Yeah, it's legit trust me. Now, I wann't

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<v Speaker 2>trust nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>After getting on my first after getting my house, I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember going, I am never gonna move my money

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<v Speaker 1>around the accounts the way, even though I do now

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:40.480
<v Speaker 1>come struggle a little bit, but usually if I'm good,

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I keep them very separated. Because my first house experience,

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:46.399
<v Speaker 1>they questioned every transaction. They're like, why did you move

0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:48.359
<v Speaker 1>this from this account? This is discount where this money

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<v Speaker 1>come from?

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 2>And this is right, the money's there, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>You think I'm gonna remember two thousand and I get

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 1>but it felt good, didn't feel legit, like tell me

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:01.360
<v Speaker 1>about so.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought about getting the house in twenty twenty

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:12.160
<v Speaker 2>one and it was like that's that's when I put

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<v Speaker 2>my toes in the water, like let me see what

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:16.960
<v Speaker 2>this is like, you know what I'm saying. Because I

0:53:17.040 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 2>knew I needed it was like because I was living under.

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 1>My means for so yeah, yeah, I like that.

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I was scared. I was in that same two bedroom apartment. Yeah,

0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:30.440
<v Speaker 2>dirty carpet. It was just like but then I was like,

0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 2>all right, I want my boys to live with me,

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 2>so I need more space. So I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I need to find the biggest space I

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:41.320
<v Speaker 2>was gonna rent. The biggest spot with the burdbank prices

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:44.000
<v Speaker 2>was they was crazy, and so I was like, man,

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 2>let me look out in Santa Clarita or whatever. And

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 2>then I was like, you know I should buy a house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeap, you should, especially at the rents.

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<v Speaker 2>So so they gave me. They gave me a quote

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<v Speaker 2>the pre approval, and I was just like, I was

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<v Speaker 2>looking that the pre approval they they you know, approved

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<v Speaker 2>me for compared to what the houses were going for

0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 2>in sam Cared, and I was like, I didn't really

0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:10.440
<v Speaker 2>like that. I was just like, damn, that's not enough.

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:13.400
<v Speaker 2>And so I was just like because I didn't, I

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to settle for of course. So then I

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, all right, I'll just rent and I was

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:20.560
<v Speaker 2>just going back then. It was horse.

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I knew you back then, because I would have told

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you settle, man, settle, settle. I would I would have

0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:27.640
<v Speaker 1>instantly told you to settle. I tell all my girlfriends

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:30.399
<v Speaker 1>that this is first, it's your first. Just settle. You're

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 1>just looking at equity. I was just like, I can't

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:35.080
<v Speaker 1>believe you did it. So you waited till twenty twenty

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:36.399
<v Speaker 1>four in the high interest rate.

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 2>So now the interest rate now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is just like and the prices it was disgusting.

0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 2>But what the approved I saw. I saw the jump

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:47.400
<v Speaker 2>in preapproval.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's that's good though, and you were working towards something.

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's a big difference is what I was pre

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:56.400
<v Speaker 2>approved for in twenty twenty, twenty twenty.

0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Also at that time it was probably really high.

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yes, I was just like, now I can work

0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:04.840
<v Speaker 2>with this, and so I went in way under.

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I approved me for of course, I'm glad to

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 1>hear that too. Financial literacy do I'm.

0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Not pushing it to the limit and so so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that felt good. I was scared shitless though, Like

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:20.359
<v Speaker 2>I got cool feed several times throughout the process. Even

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 2>after I bought it, I was still just like, that

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 2>was me. I make the right choice.

0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you realize that. I always like to tell people.

0:55:28.160 --> 0:55:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I bought my house with two hundred and sixty thousand

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:38.440
<v Speaker 1>dollars ten years ago in Cali. In Cali it's a townhouse,

0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 1>but still still and I begged all my girlfriends to

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:45.719
<v Speaker 1>buy homes at that time. You know, I was with

0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the low interest rate I had. My interest is four

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and a quarter. And I also did as an entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the game you you like to hide money

0:55:56.920 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 1>in the tax error, so that bites you. You know,

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:02.799
<v Speaker 1>it's twofold, know you you don't report as much, you

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 1>get lower approval. So at the time, I was very fortunate.

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:09.520
<v Speaker 1>So thank god I got approved for that because let

0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 1>me tell you, my life has been nothing but like

0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it's all roller coaster, high risk or whatever. So what

0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:17.839
<v Speaker 1>I did was because the house payments are so low,

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 1>every Christmas, I will Christmas present the principal. Yes, so

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I always do like a twenty thousand dollars a year

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:30.040
<v Speaker 1>principal payment on December. Every December, Yeah, my house would

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 1>be paid off like next year. That's crazy. And all

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 1>my friends, you know what, they tell me, you're an idiot.

0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Why did you do that? Why would you do that?

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:38.879
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, yeah, well, guess what we're gonna airb

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and be this bitch like next year.

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:42.839
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you that. Let me ask you this

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:46.799
<v Speaker 2>on on this principal day. Do you have to specifically.

0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Mark principle only on the actual check? Oh see you cannot, yeah,

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:53.839
<v Speaker 1>because I made that mistake. So they have so many

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 1>different loan programs out there. For everybody that's ever interested

0:56:56.640 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 1>in buying home I always advise you, like there's nonprofits

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.839
<v Speaker 1>in LA that will do like it's like seventy five

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 1>bucks and they teach you a whole course on home buying.

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.279
<v Speaker 1>I think I paid for it. It was worth every

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:09.680
<v Speaker 1>penny A lot of times if you graduate, they give

0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you like a if you complete the course, so it'll

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 1>could be like some kind of down payment assistance. So

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I did that. When I bought mine, this was like

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:19.000
<v Speaker 1>ten years ago. I begged all my girlfriends. Of course,

0:57:19.040 --> 0:57:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was like thirty, so you know, girls

0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:24.080
<v Speaker 1>are still young. They were like, girl, you whatever, you

0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:26.960
<v Speaker 1>wait till you get married. I was like, just in case,

0:57:28.800 --> 0:57:32.920
<v Speaker 1>just in case. But no, there's so many programs out there.

0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:35.919
<v Speaker 1>But I one of my homies, like two years after

0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 1>one of my ex boyfriends, two years after I bought

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the house, was like, you're an idiot, Like you know

0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna pay all this interest, Like look at how

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:45.000
<v Speaker 1>much you're gonna pay for the house right later, And

0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I told you, I'm like half Jewish, So I I

0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:50.080
<v Speaker 1>looked at it and then I said, I realized that

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I would be paying like by the time I was done,

0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna be paying like four hundred or five

0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:55.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand for the house.

0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:58.760
<v Speaker 1>So when I realized that they had this like mortgage

0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 1>payment calculator you can google, So I googled it and

0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I just put in, like how much would I have

0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:06.360
<v Speaker 1>to pay to pay it off by the time I'm forty, right,

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:09.920
<v Speaker 1>And it was like twenty k a year? Okay, So

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, at the end of every year,

0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll just add an extra twenty k. But also if

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you do just an extra house payment, it cuts it

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:20.280
<v Speaker 1>down like ten years. Okay, but I just I do

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:23.480
<v Speaker 1>that method, I'm just like fuck it. And then but

0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you got to remember the best part of owning a

0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 1>house is that you get to write off the interests.

0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:30.400
<v Speaker 1>So once you get to the principal point, so like,

0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:32.400
<v Speaker 1>your tax are gonna be great this year and for

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the next couple of years, I'm at the point where

0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:38.440
<v Speaker 1>there's no more interest left. Really principle, like I make

0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a payment, it's like ninety percent is.

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Going to principles fly, but you have But the catch

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:47.800
<v Speaker 3>now is that if you're an entrepreneur on the taxi,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna hurt because you know when you're married and

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<v Speaker 3>you own real.

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<v Speaker 1>Estate, those are like great write offs. The most money

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever gotten back in my life is like the

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<v Speaker 1>day I got Oh, I got married. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>you could get money back. So I've learned a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm excited to hear. I love financial literacy, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's really nice to hear that you you went through that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get to see your home as it progress

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<v Speaker 1>is online. You're doing a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I might as well make it because I've

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<v Speaker 2>never had.

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<v Speaker 1>A six foot person tub.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw I can fit in there, I can stretch out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's tough, you know, finding that first contractor.

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<v Speaker 1>I did that, Like when I first got my home

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<v Speaker 1>and I the bill. They said it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like a certain amount, and then it came out

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<v Speaker 1>a lot bigger, of course, and I had a complete meltdown,

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<v Speaker 1>com complete meltdown.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a terrible job.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm stay away from contractors for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Yeah, but I'm happy to hear this. What

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<v Speaker 1>are some milestones like in your story that like particularly

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<v Speaker 1>stood out to you in your career that were like

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<v Speaker 1>I've officially besides the like big home purchase, Like the.

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<v Speaker 2>First time I was on that a comic standing on NBC,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yo, I'm on TV. That's a comic.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a big moment. It didn't change my life at.

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<v Speaker 1>The time, did you think it was?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I thought it was gonna be on the

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<v Speaker 2>road now, baby, but I didn't go far enough into it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I did another season of Last Comic saying

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, this this, this is it right

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<v Speaker 2>but it still wasn't it right there? And so but

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<v Speaker 2>those were big moments, like when I when I booked

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<v Speaker 2>that and I did especially that first time on Last Comic,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a really good set and I thought and

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<v Speaker 2>then it was like I didn't advance. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that was crushed. So that was a big moment. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when I went on the road, when I went

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<v Speaker 2>on tour with Kevin on stage the Real Comedians Tour

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<v Speaker 2>is Me Kevin to here, that was a great moment

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<v Speaker 2>because it's like, Yo, we're on the road doing these shows.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like my first tour. Yeah, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is fantastic. And we did it again, we went

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<v Speaker 2>back to back on it. So I was just like

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<v Speaker 2>those moments. And then when I went back on the

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<v Speaker 2>road by myself and the tickets were selling, that's when

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like, wow, yeah, that would be a huge moment.

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<v Speaker 2>That that was the moment I was just like And

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<v Speaker 2>so all of those little moments right there, it is

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<v Speaker 2>just like, man, I really So now it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just in a good space of and I'm in I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the space of you know, And I know people

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<v Speaker 2>get annoyed when people talk like this, where you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>a certain financial situation, then you're like, money isn't everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But money matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Money does matter, and it for you. But it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I lost my oldest son, and so

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<v Speaker 2>when I say money doesn't matter, I would give it

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<v Speaker 2>all to get him back. So it's just like I

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<v Speaker 2>would I would give everything in my account right now

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<v Speaker 2>to get him back. So it's like, even even with

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<v Speaker 2>the money, you're still heartbroken. So it's like dang. And

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<v Speaker 2>then so now I'm in a space and me and

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<v Speaker 2>keV on stage laugh about this all the time because

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<v Speaker 2>he knows how I am. I will walk away from

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<v Speaker 2>money now that I wouldn't have before for peace of mind,

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<v Speaker 2>because since you know, since I did lose my son

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<v Speaker 2>like that, I'm looking for peace above all else. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, they're offering this much money, but I

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<v Speaker 2>know they're knowing to work with.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, That's what I was going to ask you. What

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<v Speaker 1>is like, have you had a real bad example of

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<v Speaker 1>like a deal gone bad where you're like never again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not really like a bad deal. Well, but

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<v Speaker 2>just like if I know the production will be raggedy

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of how they run it, what's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be like, I'm good if they get on my

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<v Speaker 2>nerves too much, or if they doing too much stuff

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<v Speaker 2>short notice or this is that, and the third I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. But the money, I'm like, nah, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>because if I'm annoyed, it's just like I'd rather not

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<v Speaker 2>deal with it because I'm always looking for the peace

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<v Speaker 2>and so and so. Since I'm not a big spender,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't stress about you know, I need the money.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I can use the money. I need the money.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make more money. But it's like if

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<v Speaker 2>I got a sacrifice my little my little nerves for it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm walking away. And so I feel like I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy relationship with like.

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<v Speaker 1>Finances, it sounds like it sounds like you're good at

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<v Speaker 1>it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just like, you know, I won't stress myself

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<v Speaker 2>out for more money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so as before, I be like, I'll do anything

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<v Speaker 2>for the money.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, when you're coming from this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll I'll do whatever for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a very difficult question. I asked, Okay, with

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<v Speaker 1>everything that happened with your son, dealing with that whole

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<v Speaker 1>grief period, how did you like pull through it, especially

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<v Speaker 1>being a comic.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so he passed August third, twenty twenty one, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I ended up going back on the road at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of August to Atlanta. And so because I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, because of course, you know, my team was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, hey, you know, if you need to not

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<v Speaker 2>do nothing, we we understund like, and I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to just sit and do nothing. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to make people laugh. So I got back on

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<v Speaker 2>the road and work finished out the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>tour for that year. And making people laugh was beneficial

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<v Speaker 2>for me because I'm getting that good energy, because laughter

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<v Speaker 2>is just great energy. Giving back making people laugh makes

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<v Speaker 2>me feel fantastic. And so and then to hear about

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<v Speaker 2>what people are going through themselves, Like, man, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>you A comedy show just made you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I was having tough, I was in the dark place.

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<v Speaker 2>This is that and the third and so it's like

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<v Speaker 2>that good energy exchange. It's just like I needed that

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<v Speaker 2>because if not, I was just gonna sit and just

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<v Speaker 2>be done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was like the working help help keep

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<v Speaker 2>me going through that. And then I was like, but

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<v Speaker 2>I did realize, yo, I need to sit down and

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<v Speaker 2>take it. So I took it from like August third

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<v Speaker 2>through like August twenty third. I was just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taking it walking still like I always do, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get everything together. Because we had like a little COVID

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<v Speaker 2>outbreak within the family around that time. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>mess and so and I was just like all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I finished out that tour and in the first

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<v Speaker 2>two months of twenty twenty two, I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna just sit down and just grieve, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>I was never running from the grief. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>I need to do something to bring me joy within

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<v Speaker 2>the grief. And so then when I sat down, I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to take it in. It's all right. And

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<v Speaker 2>so then I got back to work. And so now

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, my friend Chantee, she had lost her

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<v Speaker 2>husband and she was just like the best thing I

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<v Speaker 2>learned is, you know, grief comes in waves. Don't fight

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<v Speaker 2>the waves, all right. So it's just like the water

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<v Speaker 2>coming in. You just go with it and wherever it

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<v Speaker 2>takes you. And so I live like that, Like when

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<v Speaker 2>I have a wave, I take it. It's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, here we go. Like yesterday was his birthday,

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<v Speaker 2>January third, so that day is always the hardest of

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<v Speaker 2>the year, and so I was just like, I just

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<v Speaker 2>chilled yesterday. I was crying off and on all day

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<v Speaker 2>and then just keep going. And then that's what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>And so and I talk about him a lot, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because a lot of times I've been watching

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<v Speaker 2>this show called Cross on Amazon Prime and he's dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with grief because his wife got murdered at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the show, and the way he's handling the grief

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<v Speaker 2>just pisses me off because he has two children that

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<v Speaker 2>lost their mom as well, but he can't like talk,

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<v Speaker 2>he can't talk to them about her or play this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I never wanted to be in a situation where

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<v Speaker 2>I can't talk about my son because it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'll get too sad or whatever. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just let's talk about him. I'm always down. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>down to talk about what happened, how I got through

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<v Speaker 2>it anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>And with your other son, you're able to like go.

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<v Speaker 2>Through that, yeah, because it's like we never want because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times when we lose somebody, they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of turn into the name that should not be mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, it's like, don't break up, And I

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<v Speaker 2>never want that to be the case because I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like he kind of just pushing your loved one. You're

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<v Speaker 2>tucking it in, you put it in the trunk and

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<v Speaker 2>then there. I feel like the love and the memory

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<v Speaker 2>can't live on fully like that. So it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always down there, Like remember Serainemember. We always doing this,

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<v Speaker 2>so we always like So for Christmas, my son lives

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<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco. He graduated and he stayed up there,

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<v Speaker 2>and so me, my ex wife and her husband, we

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<v Speaker 2>all went up there to be with him for Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>and so and we'll just be talking like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>random memories, you know, we talking about Seraine. We talk

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<v Speaker 2>about them, were talking.

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<v Speaker 1>About but it's in like a good spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, It's like, you know, we want his memory to

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<v Speaker 2>live on.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. Yeah, I like it. I still think

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<v Speaker 1>it's incredibly tough, like from the outside, Oh, for sure

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<v Speaker 1>it looks you know, but I commend you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it was like, you know, I used to

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<v Speaker 2>see parents that lost their children, you know, on the

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<v Speaker 2>news or whatever, and they be talking to the news

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<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, my son was killed this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be like, how are you able to form a

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<v Speaker 2>sentence like I would? I would think that, like, how

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<v Speaker 2>were you able to? And then happened to us? And

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like and I'm sitting here forming sentences like

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<v Speaker 2>in ground zero, I was able to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>news and be on this and that, and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 2>how am I able to do this?

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<v Speaker 1>I literally just told that the other day. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a bad dream, terrible dream. I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to die. Yeah, And I was like, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be honest back, like, I think that would be the

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<v Speaker 1>straw for me. They definitely think that would be the

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<v Speaker 1>day that I like, I'm done, like you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's what I said from the outside, I'm like, whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it was like I would never because I

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<v Speaker 2>used to. As parents, we always have that thought like

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<v Speaker 2>anything ever happened to any of our kid, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>go too. But then it's like when the reality, the

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunate reality, hits you in the mouth, it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what if I did shut down now? Now my my

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<v Speaker 2>other son's sufferers. Now it's like, you know, my loved

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<v Speaker 2>one suffer, I suffer, and who you lost would never

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<v Speaker 2>want you to shut down because they're gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you empathize with even though the guy from the

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<v Speaker 1>Cross Show bothers you, do you? Does a small part

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<v Speaker 1>of you empathize with him?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Because it's like it's hard because you never want

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<v Speaker 2>to tell people how to greet But it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when his son was asking him like how come you

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<v Speaker 2>never talk about mom or whatever? And then he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>his son would ask some questions about Mom and then

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be like, oh, he started fumbling around or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and then his son told him. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>when she died, it was like I lost both of you,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's when he was like, oh, Like they

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<v Speaker 2>hit him in that moment because he was running from

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<v Speaker 2>the conversations before. So it was just frustrating to see

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<v Speaker 2>him run so much, especially when the kids were like, yeah, Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. And so it was like

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<v Speaker 2>and so I never wanted to be like that, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I was always aware of just like you gotta be

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<v Speaker 2>there for sincere. You know what I'm saying. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it's like and not only that, like I know if

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<v Speaker 2>I if I was to pass away, I would never

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<v Speaker 2>want my loved ones to be like, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. And so, and another thing that gets me

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<v Speaker 2>through a lot of this is that I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>regrets as far as my relationship with Serene, because we

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<v Speaker 2>were good. That's good. And so I think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>helped me a lot is because there was no regret.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no underlying beef, there was none of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you got regrets, that's a whole nother emotional

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<v Speaker 2>weight on you. With the grief. It's like, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>should have I wish I would have. I could have

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. That'll tell you in half.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that we were all good and the last

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<v Speaker 2>words were I love you, I love you too. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what he left here knowing he was loved and we

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<v Speaker 2>were good. So that brings me peace.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I mean to good on that. I thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for being on the show. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get to touch on everything I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be with hello over the minutes, but thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>How can everyone keep up with you? Can you tell

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about the tour directly into that

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<v Speaker 1>camera camera?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's called the Replenished Pockets Tour. Like I said before,

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<v Speaker 2>I spent a lot of money this past year, good money.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't wasting money, but it was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>money spent. So now I got to replenish the pockets.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm back on the road. You can find my

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<v Speaker 2>tour days at Tonybakercomedy dot com. Really keep up with

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<v Speaker 2>me on Instagram. That's my main primary area of where

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<v Speaker 2>I promote Tony Baker on Instagram. Don't underscores, no nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>It's just straight Tony Baker. I'll be doing the Bay Area, Sacramento, Tampa, Miami, Raleigh, Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>New York, Charlotte, d C, Houston. I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>forgetting somebody, but uh, my whole schedule is up I'm

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<v Speaker 2>promoted every day, so just stay tuned, man. I would

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<v Speaker 2>love for y'all to come to these live shows. And

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<v Speaker 2>at the at the end of the year, me and

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<v Speaker 2>keV we're gonna do something with the Ball Brothers. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do a tour for that as well in the

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<v Speaker 2>later half of the years. So I'm out here, man.

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<v Speaker 1>He's out here in the streets, So pull up and

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<v Speaker 1>see him live.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, replenish the pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Replenished the pocket. We want to see the house, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll give us updates on the house. We can start

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<v Speaker 1>Untie to see the updates. So let's replenish and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure this house looks magnificent. To replenish those pockets.

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<v Speaker 2>Tour, Yes, that's the tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Man at Tony Baker. Peace out, y'all. Thanks for tuning

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