Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have very
Speaker 1: special guest, comedian and actor. Legendary comedian actor, legend legendary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've been in the game long enough to be legendary.
Speaker 1: Tony Bakers in the building. How good. I'm very excited
Speaker 1: to be very excited to have you on the show.
Speaker 1: A little concerned about the dish you're gonna be having
Speaker 1: me eat today. I'm concerned. I'm excited because I've never
Speaker 1: had this dish on the show. We've taped like one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen episodes, so to never have a dish
Speaker 1: is like very amazing. I literally hate Ramen to the
Speaker 1: ultimate max. I've had great Ramen and terrible Ramen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm excited about this dish. But I literally had
Speaker 1: called like five people, like I think he's just testing
Speaker 1: to see if I'm gonna eat this.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: So go ahead and tell everybody what your dishes.
Speaker 2: So my dish is cream corn sandwiches. Okay, Now this
Speaker 2: is not something I ate on the regular. It was
Speaker 2: a one There was a one time only affair.
Speaker 1: One and done one and done that means it's not good.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what it tastes like. It was just like, man,
Speaker 2: I got cream corn in here, there's bread.
Speaker 1: And before he started taping, he was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: really gonna eat this right, And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: heck no, you know you're gonna eat this with me?
Speaker 2: Ladies.
Speaker 1: First, I don't mind. I mean, I'm Jamaican. So we
Speaker 1: we eat literally everything good at least once.
Speaker 2: That's how it should be at least once.
Speaker 1: So go ahead, start making this. The ingredients are, what's
Speaker 1: the ingredients for your dish today?
Speaker 2: So we got the cream corn. Okay, first, as I can,
Speaker 2: I haven't had cream corn. I feel like I haven't
Speaker 2: had cream corn since I had the cream corn sandwich.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I can't remember. Yeah, of course cream corn.
Speaker 2: I like the spray, you know. Now, I didn't use
Speaker 2: the coconut oil back then. I think I used just whatever.
Speaker 2: I think we had pam in there, whatever we had.
Speaker 2: I just sprayed the pant over with that. Because I
Speaker 2: grilled the bread and just some wheat bread. It might
Speaker 2: not even been wheat then, I don't know, like I
Speaker 2: feel like it was wheat. This was like, mind you,
Speaker 2: this was ninety ninety nine. I think this was ninety nine,
Speaker 2: and you maybe even ninety eight.
Speaker 1: So you you went as far as to make shift
Speaker 1: cook this day. So you took the cream corn, you
Speaker 1: heat it up in the pot, I'm assuming, and you
Speaker 1: actually made the bread. So this was a very thought out.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I was trying to jazz it up
Speaker 2: as much as possible, like I'll.
Speaker 1: Jack it up for who me.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it was that's been messed, but at least
Speaker 2: I can class it up. Okay, Well, I feel like
Speaker 2: when you when you when you grill the bread, classing
Speaker 2: it up a little bit.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and make me this gormet gormet cream corn.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I had cream corn.
Speaker 1: I'm like nervous and excited because I remember liking it
Speaker 1: back in the day.
Speaker 2: Creek corn was a good time. Yeah, creek corn was.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, when I was a kid, it was
Speaker 1: a good time.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know, taste bush changed.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We think we better than stuff we used to have.
Speaker 1: And you're vegan now right, I'm one.
Speaker 2: Hundred percent vegetarian, mostly vegan. Now. Why I say that
Speaker 2: is because like if I if I want a cookie.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be.
Speaker 1: Like, is that real body?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna get the cookie.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's like or if I want, like if
Speaker 2: I go to the waffle house and I get a waffle.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're not gonna okay, if I if I got
Speaker 1: this because you were specific about you know, if you
Speaker 1: can't find vegan.
Speaker 2: Well, I know, because the can stuff they add a
Speaker 2: lot of animal whatever. Okay, So I tend to avoid
Speaker 2: anything with animal life.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, is there a reason for this slide?
Speaker 2: But if it's like you know, like the pork and beans,
Speaker 2: or you know, there's gelatine in this animal bones or whatever.
Speaker 1: So that's what I meant, animal bones.
Speaker 2: Gelatine is like usually an animal bone.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't know that. So does it smell
Speaker 1: like cream corse, take a whiff of it. It is
Speaker 1: a nostalgic. Yeah, that tastes that tastes that smells official, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I haven't had cream corner
Speaker 2: mad long Okay, Okay, so now I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 2: I hate electric stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you told me, but this one gets
Speaker 1: hot real fast looking. Look, why do you hate it?
Speaker 2: You see that, because I feel like I could never
Speaker 2: get the the heat right, and I'll never forget. One
Speaker 2: time I was visiting my brother in Toasta, Oklahoma, and
Speaker 2: I was bragging about my French toast the whole week.
Speaker 2: Then my French toast is legendary. Man, y'all, y'all ain't
Speaker 2: ready for me. And at this time, like he was,
Speaker 2: he was, uh, you know, this girl was living with him.
Speaker 2: His girlfriend had two twin boys and they were like teenagers.
Speaker 2: I had my family there, so it was like I
Speaker 2: was talking cat can I cuss on? Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: talking cash ship and then I was like, yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And then when I made that
Speaker 2: big breakfast for everybody, I the French toasts.
Speaker 1: Terrible, all because of the electric So yeah.
Speaker 2: Because I was it was burning. I burned the majority
Speaker 2: of the French and I was like, man, I'm done.
Speaker 1: I think the secret to good French toast is in
Speaker 1: my twin could debate this, but a healthy balance of
Speaker 1: butter and sugar. Am I right? No sugar?
Speaker 2: Disagree?
Speaker 1: Sugar?
Speaker 2: I got sugar. The sugar. You don't need to add
Speaker 2: the sugar to the.
Speaker 1: Fresh tost Oh see, my swe just did that to me,
Speaker 1: and I'll be honest. She was like, did you try
Speaker 1: did you try it? And I was like, sugar, because.
Speaker 2: You got the scare what you need the sugar for.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm scared to try your French tos. I'm glad
Speaker 1: we STI He said it was legendary. No, the trick
Speaker 1: to great French toast is to make sure you add
Speaker 1: cinnamon and sugar.
Speaker 2: Answer you, still you're doing too much? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: About the sugar on top of the French toes. You
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 1: No, but I mean if there was, that's how they restaurant.
Speaker 1: I would if there was. But I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 1: I just had French toast from my twin the other day.
Speaker 1: She was raving about it, and she said that she
Speaker 1: used a little bit of a combo mix of cinnamon
Speaker 1: with sugar in it. And I tried it. It just
Speaker 1: tasted like cinnamon toast.
Speaker 2: Oh did she did? She get the egg and evaporated milk? Oh?
Speaker 1: You put evaporated milk in it? You gotta that's a cheat.
Speaker 2: You gotta make the rout. The root is essential.
Speaker 1: Okay, tell us how to make this good French toast?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you need eggs, a little evaporated milk, thattmeg, cinnamon,
Speaker 2: vanilla extract, and butter is like optional. Use the butter.
Speaker 1: I just used the butter. Yeah, get yeah, of course
Speaker 1: you have that little butter hen.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's that's it.
Speaker 1: Evaporated milkporated milk. So that's like the same as sugar
Speaker 1: kind of but.
Speaker 2: It's but it's not but it's not sure.
Speaker 1: I want to try this.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want to try this as.
Speaker 2: Long as I'm making on the electric stoves fire. So
Speaker 2: and now now that they got like they had this
Speaker 2: French toast, they kind of make bread now where they
Speaker 2: kind of cater.
Speaker 1: To French toast, like the brochet bread or something, but
Speaker 1: they had ever made it on brio spread. I think
Speaker 1: I tried it once and I messed it up. It's good.
Speaker 1: Damn you made me want to try this French toast because.
Speaker 2: I feel like out of the tree. The breakfast trio
Speaker 2: and waffles, pancakes, and French toes frenchs number one. French toes,
Speaker 2: if it's made at the highest level, is number one.
Speaker 2: Now why I say that because most restaurants fumble the
Speaker 2: French toes.
Speaker 1: I think most restaurants can't cook breakfast period though. I
Speaker 1: think the only place I honestly like if someone were like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's meet for breakfast, the only place I'm choosing this
Speaker 1: Blue Jam Cafe. And that's it.
Speaker 2: They got a good uh, they got the little they
Speaker 2: got like a good vegan scrambling.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I like I like their little potatoes, but
Speaker 1: everywhere else absolutely not. I'll just cook breakfast in my house.
Speaker 1: But now take me back to what was going on
Speaker 1: during this cream corn sandwich air.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we in college. I went to New Mexican
Speaker 2: State in ninety eight, nineteen ninety eight, and I know
Speaker 2: some people watching him be like, ninety eight, man, did
Speaker 2: they have cars? Then? That's crazy? Was that prohibition al capone?
Speaker 2: It was ninety eight, and so you know we broke
Speaker 2: you know, we getting financial aid. We out here scrambling,
Speaker 2: and at that time, I think I might have been
Speaker 2: working on campus, like works thirty job or whatever in
Speaker 2: Department of Black Programs. So you know, times was hard,
Speaker 2: and we already in the poor state. So we pour
Speaker 2: into poor state, poor college students. So we we ended
Speaker 2: up and at this time, so this was probably I
Speaker 2: want to say this was ninety nine because I was
Speaker 2: an alumni ninety eight, so this was ninety nine when
Speaker 2: I had the cream course sandwich. So I was illegally
Speaker 2: staying with my with my homeboys, Andre and Jamal, they
Speaker 2: had that they were living on on campus. They had
Speaker 2: the four bedrooms. I wasn't supposed to be in there.
Speaker 2: We like, we like broke into one of the rooms
Speaker 2: pretty much, and I was staying in one of the rooms.
Speaker 1: Broke into one of the rooms. Yea, it was.
Speaker 2: I wasn't supposed to be there, got it, got it.
Speaker 2: I was staying in there, so I was illegal. Technically
Speaker 2: I was homeless, but not really.
Speaker 1: So it was it was now it's coming full circle. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're getting in there.
Speaker 2: Technically Visita del Monte was the name of him. And
Speaker 2: I think I got in academic trouble or whatever and
Speaker 2: I couldn't stay there anymore. So it was like, well
Speaker 2: the door is open, don't you just you know, crash
Speaker 2: with us. So we in there. And one night, I
Speaker 2: mean it was it was cream corn in the crib.
Speaker 2: It was bread. It was toast heck playing dream.
Speaker 1: And all y'all went in on this bread in this.
Speaker 2: Corner I feel like it was just me this night.
Speaker 1: Okay to Jack.
Speaker 2: Everybody was because.
Speaker 1: This jagging the box around back. Okay, okay, okay, listen, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I know, I know I'm an eighties baby. Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't have that. I don't think so yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I think that's an l A thing or any city,
Speaker 1: any city, but New York thing.
Speaker 2: Okay. So so yeah, so that it was cream corner there, bread,
Speaker 2: want you that bread?
Speaker 1: You make it? Did you at least have a car?
Speaker 1: So you were like just stuck in the crib and
Speaker 1: you had these are my options.
Speaker 2: I had a car, but I didn't have the bread.
Speaker 1: The bread. I had the bread, so you was hungry.
Speaker 1: You said let's make it through. You get in the
Speaker 1: kitchen and that's what you whip up.
Speaker 2: This is I was like, let's bring them together.
Speaker 1: At that time, did you know you were inching towards
Speaker 1: the entertainment business at that point or were you what
Speaker 1: were you going to school for?
Speaker 2: I was going to school for I've always wanted to
Speaker 2: be an actor, to be honest with you, but I
Speaker 2: felt like, you know, I was in New Mexico at
Speaker 2: the time. I was raised in Chicago, moved to New
Speaker 2: Mexico because my brother got stationed there in the Air Force,
Speaker 2: and I ended up going to New Mexico State.
Speaker 1: But I was like, may you moved to New Mexico
Speaker 1: because your brother, my.
Speaker 2: Oldest brother, he was he joined the Air Force. He
Speaker 2: went to Hawaii for his first order. Then New Mexico
Speaker 2: was his second order, and he was like, watch ya
Speaker 2: come stay you know, with me in New Mexico. And
Speaker 2: my mom was born and raised in Chicago, so she
Speaker 2: was like, I'm down for something different. And at that time,
Speaker 2: I was scared of nuclear war, okay, So I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm down to move because Chicago gonna get hit early
Speaker 2: in New York get I was terrified, okay, nuclear awards.
Speaker 2: So I was like, uh yeah, I'm down. So we
Speaker 2: moved out there because of that, Okay. So I went
Speaker 2: to New Mexico State and I was majoring in psychology first,
Speaker 2: and I was never like college was never something I
Speaker 2: really wanted to do, but I was like, let me
Speaker 2: just do it. I was going to the community college
Speaker 2: at first and clovies New Mexico and then my friend
Speaker 2: Andre was like, Yo, I'm going to New Mexico State.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'll go with you, and so I
Speaker 2: went out there. So majored in psychology. That was the
Speaker 2: initial major. But it was boring.
Speaker 1: I was like, psychology was boring. I was, and so
Speaker 1: I was like, good to know I've always wondered about it,
Speaker 1: but guess to know I was boring.
Speaker 2: Okay, mind you, I'm just doing the basics. I didn't
Speaker 2: even get into the heavy psychology courses. But it was
Speaker 2: just like, man, I ain't feeling none of this because
Speaker 2: I knew I wanted to act. I was a kid.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a TV and movies because I
Speaker 2: was obsessed with the TV and movie, especially movies. But
Speaker 2: New Mexico just felt at that time, it felt like
Speaker 2: a world away from Hollywood. I was like, yeah, mind
Speaker 2: you fast forward they would, but at that time I
Speaker 2: was just like, ain't not cracking out majoring something regular,
Speaker 2: and so it was psychology and then I changed it
Speaker 2: to secondary education science.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a hard subject.
Speaker 2: So I was gonna I was going to teach because
Speaker 2: I was like, I like biology, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I could teach, like, you know, because I like because
Speaker 2: I felt like teaching would be a form of performing.
Speaker 2: So and I'm good with like the youth. And so
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, secondary education, I can teach middle school,
Speaker 2: high school. Them. Science classes was kicking my ass. Chemistry
Speaker 2: told my ass whole open twice. They then ecology tore
Speaker 2: me in half, Genetics tore me in half. Physics I
Speaker 2: ain't even I was, I'm dropping this one, and so like,
Speaker 2: I can't do the science, you know, astronomy, ace, but
Speaker 2: everything else tore me up. So I was like secondary education,
Speaker 2: social studies. I changed my major again.
Speaker 1: I can teach history.
Speaker 2: History is not hard. That ain't no formulas, ain't no
Speaker 2: X outside of the parentheses, none of that. Ain't no
Speaker 2: quadratic equations. I got to worry about. So I changed
Speaker 2: it to that. And then that was the plan. I
Speaker 2: was all right, I'm gonna teach.
Speaker 1: Oh, you did good in it.
Speaker 2: I was. I was thriving.
Speaker 1: I was okay. Now now I can feel like I
Speaker 1: found the path.
Speaker 2: I found a path.
Speaker 1: Okay, So did you end up graduating with it?
Speaker 2: I didn't graduate because it was like while in college,
Speaker 2: I auditioned for a play. It was a miso, man,
Speaker 2: I played Crooks. Crooks is like this disabled black man
Speaker 2: within the play. So I played that won an award
Speaker 2: for it. And then because I never thought I wanted
Speaker 2: to do theater, and I was like, man, I just
Speaker 2: want to do TV and film theater. Looks I did theater.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, this is dope.
Speaker 1: Really, this is this is dope. Okay.
Speaker 2: So I was like, so at this time, I've already
Speaker 2: put years into these other steps, so now I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I should major in theater the whole guy.
Speaker 1: Damn oh that was an option. Yes, okay, I.
Speaker 2: Was like, but I was always just hated.
Speaker 1: So how did you end up in the theater play
Speaker 1: you just tried out without? Okay? Okay? Cool?
Speaker 2: On campus? It was a it was a play on campus.
Speaker 2: I was like, let me audition at the role, did well,
Speaker 2: got the award. Then I did another play with that
Speaker 2: same director. It was like a holiday place. So we
Speaker 2: were playing various characters.
Speaker 1: I was like, you loved it.
Speaker 2: And then this one guy saw me. I think he
Speaker 2: saw me of mice and Men. So he was doing
Speaker 2: his own version Offenses by August Wilson. Yeah, so he
Speaker 2: wanted me to play Troy in the lead. And I
Speaker 2: was like, man, that's a lot to memorize. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: did it. I remember that whole thing, and I was
Speaker 2: just like at that point, I was just like, I'm
Speaker 2: going for that act. I have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was always into it. I was always like I
Speaker 2: was doing like vine videos in the nineties, Like I
Speaker 2: was just making little sketches and shins and stuff like
Speaker 2: that with a camquarder and just like I was always
Speaker 2: on that type of time, and I was just like, man,
Speaker 2: I just gotta go for it because I knew if
Speaker 2: I got my degree, yeah, I'm not gonna go as hard.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be teaching. I'm gonna be grading papers, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be teaching summer school.
Speaker 1: And what's your What was your family saying in all
Speaker 1: of this?
Speaker 2: My family was like whatever you want to do, Like
Speaker 2: they would never it was never any like you should
Speaker 2: do this, you should do that. It was just like
Speaker 2: okay either way. It's all Like I was kind of
Speaker 2: scared to tell my dad that I was dropping out
Speaker 2: because he was more those grades doing. My mom was
Speaker 2: just like do you Pops was just like the grades
Speaker 2: looking like he was sating like extra money if the
Speaker 2: grades were good. So I was just kind of like,
Speaker 2: I don't want.
Speaker 1: So how'd you break it to him?
Speaker 2: I just told him, Uh, I was like, yeah, because
Speaker 2: I was too full semester shy of a degree. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, yeah I was. I was right there. But
Speaker 2: I was like, but I know, I know my son,
Speaker 2: and I knew like once I started teaching, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna be going to these I'm not gonna be scrambling.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be teaching grading papers and like, nah, it's
Speaker 2: that safety there. It's just like but if I go
Speaker 2: out here where this is the focus.
Speaker 1: So what was your next plan? So you deliver the
Speaker 1: news to dad. He takes it pretty okay.
Speaker 2: He was like, Okay, you know.
Speaker 1: I ain't send it no more money, you know, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm asking Like was he like that?
Speaker 2: I never said that, but it was just like but
Speaker 2: I really wasn't hitting.
Speaker 1: Him up for they Yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Was like, this is what I'm doing because I'm very
Speaker 2: like strong will and so I'll be like, I don't
Speaker 2: even want to hear what you got to say.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So then what was your plan? Did
Speaker 1: you where did you go from there? Did you move
Speaker 1: to la? What did you do?
Speaker 2: So what happened was so at this time I started
Speaker 2: doing all the plays and stuff in like two thousand
Speaker 2: and three. I got married in two thousand and three also,
Speaker 2: and so we had we had two boys before we
Speaker 2: got married. We ended up having the boys and then
Speaker 2: we got married in two thousand and three. So my
Speaker 2: ex wife is she's a nurse, so she can get
Speaker 2: a job anywhere. So it's just like she was just
Speaker 2: like CALLI. She had a cousin that was already out here,
Speaker 2: and she's a nurse as well, so she had that
Speaker 2: end and so it was just like all right, So
Speaker 2: she was down. So we made the move in two
Speaker 2: thousand and six. Now at this time, my oldest son
Speaker 2: was six, my youngest probably four, and so made the move,
Speaker 2: came out here living Orange for that first year.
Speaker 1: Living Orange, Orange County, Orange County. What was it expensive
Speaker 1: back then? It's always been oh okay. I was just kidded.
Speaker 1: And so because she already had relationships, Yeah there, okay,
Speaker 1: that's a nice area, that's ex area. But yeah, how
Speaker 1: was you haling that?
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, when you're not from here,
Speaker 2: you're just looking at the little map. Oh I could
Speaker 2: just drive right there, but then that traffic is tear
Speaker 2: my booty.
Speaker 1: Hole Loya his booty hole references.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: And so you were going to reading maps too, hungh?
Speaker 2: Because when I had the I had the atlas, remember
Speaker 2: the big fig Yeah booty Atlas you can get from Walmart. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm using that.
Speaker 1: But you know how, because when I first moved here,
Speaker 1: I would try to read those maps and I'd be
Speaker 1: lost in the in the same two miles for like hours,
Speaker 1: like I don't know how to read this thing. And
Speaker 1: then God, map Quest, map Quest came and saved my life.
Speaker 2: Map Quest saved my ass.
Speaker 1: But so you move here, your is your wife now
Speaker 1: at this point like the primary breadwinner?
Speaker 2: Why one thousand? Now?
Speaker 1: How did that make you feel?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man? So I was the house husband at this time.
Speaker 2: So I'm holding the kids down, I'm getting them signed
Speaker 2: up for school, I'm taking them to school, all that done.
Speaker 2: So I'm handling the board, I'm cooking, I'm doing all this. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's cool, I'm doing I was the housewife.
Speaker 1: Okay, But how I have to ask these questions because
Speaker 1: I want to know, But like, how did you handle that?
Speaker 1: Were you? Just Like I know what I'm here for,
Speaker 1: so I know it's going to take time. How did
Speaker 1: she handle that, Like what kind of strains, Like what
Speaker 1: was the emotional behind the scenes, Like how did you
Speaker 1: feel during that period?
Speaker 2: Emotionally? For me, I felt like a failure in a
Speaker 2: sense because it was like because my wife, she knew
Speaker 2: she was going to be a nurse from high school.
Speaker 2: So it was just like boom pile, four years degree,
Speaker 2: me changing my major, I'm failing. I'm on academic probation.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. There's a lot of uncertainty.
Speaker 2: So I was in I was in limbo in terms
Speaker 2: of drive, career goals. I'm in limbo from like essentially
Speaker 2: ninety eight to when I started doing stand up in
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. Wow. Even even though I picked
Speaker 2: up on the acting thing and I was like fun,
Speaker 2: but I was still just like.
Speaker 1: Of course because I'm not right. Oh father, Now you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I can't be new. I should have figured all this out.
Speaker 2: So I'm in my head a lot. So so yeah,
Speaker 2: so that gets in your head. It's like, man, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I don't want this to
Speaker 2: be even though I know you gotta work hard at it,
Speaker 2: but it's just like I got a family though, you know,
Speaker 2: and so.
Speaker 1: So where you're like juggling like whether you're making the
Speaker 1: right decisions too or And then it.
Speaker 2: Was like and then when you when you get out here,
Speaker 2: it's daunting, like you have the fantasy in your head
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna get out the greyhound, the director's gonna
Speaker 2: see me. I want you my new picture. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: so but that's not the that's not the reality. So
Speaker 2: the reality is you're doing extra work. You're sitting in
Speaker 2: traffic driving you on set doing extra work for scraps
Speaker 2: for long hours. And yeah, that's the reality. And so
Speaker 2: it's like I'm just like, oh man, this sucks. This
Speaker 2: is not this is not what I thought it was
Speaker 2: gonna be.
Speaker 1: And so how's your wife at the time dealing with
Speaker 1: did you kind of going through the motions in her
Speaker 1: being the primary did she handle it? Okay?
Speaker 2: She did, Like in hindsight, she she handled it like
Speaker 2: a g because she was you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: because she was working because on her end, she was
Speaker 2: doing what she always sought out to do.
Speaker 1: So she was happy. She had like good home and
Speaker 1: then she had her career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, she being a nurse, she's trying different things
Speaker 2: within that and was always able to find work because
Speaker 2: we lived in Orange that first year and then we
Speaker 2: moved to Burbank. Was a much better location because.
Speaker 1: Well, especially for your career. Yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 2: So it's like Burbank felt like a small town right
Speaker 2: next to La so I can just go over the
Speaker 2: hill and go to an audition or whatever and it
Speaker 2: was just like you come back, it was safe, were good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like perfect.
Speaker 2: The only thing it was a little too non black.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I'm like, something smells like it's burning.
Speaker 2: I don't know what this is an extra smoky right,
Speaker 2: and this is what I'm talking about with the electric stove.
Speaker 2: It's always some bullshit.
Speaker 1: Like something's burning. I smell it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what changed?
Speaker 1: What changed? Is it your toast?
Speaker 2: It can't be the toast? Is it? I just dropped
Speaker 2: these that's extra smoky?
Speaker 1: That look. Okay, we're gonna pray that Tony doesn't burn
Speaker 1: down the set. So so in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: now is this in two thousand and eight when you
Speaker 1: moved to Burbank or when did when.
Speaker 2: The Burbank two thousand and seven?
Speaker 1: Okay, so then at six to seven was orange and
Speaker 1: so you were doing acting auditions, and then it was
Speaker 1: once you moved to Burbank, you try out, you start
Speaker 1: doing common stand up.
Speaker 2: I started doing stand up in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: Now what was that first experience like and what made
Speaker 1: you actually say, Okay, I'm gonna go for stand up.
Speaker 2: So what happened was we gotta we gotta go back
Speaker 2: to New Mexico State again. Okay, So I was very
Speaker 2: much involved in.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it smells official. Yeah, I think you
Speaker 1: don't like this.
Speaker 2: You said, what you don't like this? I mean I might.
Speaker 2: I am hungry. I haven't eaten today, so.
Speaker 1: I ate because I knew what we were gonna eat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I just was like, man, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: thought you were pranking me for a second.
Speaker 2: Little faith. Now we can do this two ways.
Speaker 1: You can either I'm gonna do it the way you
Speaker 1: did it. I think I'm gonna pour it on here.
Speaker 2: Pour it on the bread and fold its folded. Or
Speaker 2: you could just make it a real sandwich.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: The reason I did the fold is because it's wet.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's cream corn. So having a
Speaker 2: sloppy sandwich like that. That's not a sloppy Joe just
Speaker 2: didn't make a lot of sense. I'd rather do the fold.
Speaker 1: This is crazy, but what happened in New Mexico. Go
Speaker 1: take us back to New Mexico.
Speaker 2: So let me get back up in here.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to try this too.
Speaker 2: Don't be too excited. Man, Lord you expectators.
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, So just so you know, I broke my
Speaker 1: little bread in half. I'm putting my like this right, yeah.
Speaker 2: I just I can't believe this I did. Man.
Speaker 1: I literally was like, oh, he's breaking us.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that to you. All right, here we go.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Will it tastes like bread and cream corn? That's all
Speaker 2: we live?
Speaker 1: I would eat the preme corn playing man.
Speaker 2: The bread is just to add some extra half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bread and cream corn isn't isn't hidden, but
Speaker 1: try it.
Speaker 2: Try it.
Speaker 1: Bite of that prem corn straight. Let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: it's remarkably great. You don't you will go home and
Speaker 1: get some cream corn after this.
Speaker 2: It's like old time.
Speaker 1: Tell me it ain't great.
Speaker 2: That's a good time. Cream corn is good corn? Man?
Speaker 1: Why did we give up on cream corn? I believe
Speaker 1: how great it is.
Speaker 2: I don't know why we gave up on cream corn.
Speaker 2: We turn our backs. Hold on, we turned my clock.
Speaker 2: I'll be intermitting faster, inter minute.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? You don't eat till three o'clock?
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually, like sometimes even later. Hold on coolining, So
Speaker 2: I'm breaking my fast on this show. Yo.
Speaker 1: You know what. We appreciate you. But I gotta say this.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I give up preme corn. It
Speaker 1: is simply amazing. I'm having some I have extra hands.
Speaker 1: Tell me right, cream corn, it's vegan. What are you
Speaker 1: gonna do?
Speaker 2: It ain't crazy.
Speaker 1: By the way, for all y'all listeners, Tony is in
Speaker 1: remarkable shape. Remarkable shape. I was like trying to pick
Speaker 1: the aprons. And you know, I try to stay away
Speaker 1: from white because I'm a sizeable person. But you're in
Speaker 1: such great shape. I was like, he can handle white.
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to hide. But no, cream corn is Honestly,
Speaker 1: I would I would ditch the bread, but the cream
Speaker 1: corn cream cool. That is amazing cream corn. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think so I have I have a terrible memory,
Speaker 1: though I've probably seen it, don't remember. I'm gonna eat
Speaker 1: all this.
Speaker 2: Cream corn anyway. So while I'm in New Mexico State,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm just creative. You know, I'm a performer, naturally,
Speaker 2: I guess. And so I'm hosting whatever the Department of
Speaker 2: Black Programs was doing I was involved in. So like,
Speaker 2: if we had an MC battle, I would be the host.
Speaker 2: If we having a pageant, I was hosting that. It
Speaker 2: was just I was always like I wanted to get
Speaker 2: my creative juices out.
Speaker 1: So I'm just doing all that, and you were obviously
Speaker 1: good at it to keep letting me be do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was just like, and I was naturally funny.
Speaker 2: I wasn't even trying to be funny. I didn't even
Speaker 2: become aware of my humor and being funny until so
Speaker 2: I was doing all that hosting because growing up I
Speaker 2: was funny, but my older brothers never laughed. So it's
Speaker 2: like I'm at the crib when.
Speaker 1: I'm cracking their.
Speaker 2: Jokes, they're giving me nothing give you. I'm the youngest,
Speaker 2: so it was just like, look at me, the kid.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Man, I'm trying to get it.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get my little jokes. I go to
Speaker 2: bed and so so I'm in school thinking I'm not funny.
Speaker 2: I'm cracking up my classmates. They laughing, but it's still
Speaker 2: just like I ain't funny at home. So I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're laughing at it. So in
Speaker 2: my mind I'm not even registering the effect. And so
Speaker 2: then when I started liking girls, girls think I'm funny.
Speaker 2: But at that time, I don't want to be funny.
Speaker 2: I want to be the heart throb. I want you
Speaker 2: to be like you know what I'm saying, because we
Speaker 2: didn't put heart throb and humor together. Were d Yeah,
Speaker 2: you were cool and sexy. You were that guy, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, you divante from jobsy or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. So it's like, you're funny,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, i ain't trying to be funny.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to give you the squinty eyes and my
Speaker 2: shirt is off but it's on, and so never register
Speaker 2: in the comedy. So I'm just like whatever, So I'm
Speaker 2: always funny. So fast forward back to college, I'm still funny,
Speaker 2: not even trying to be funny. It's just funny. And
Speaker 2: so I was at a concert in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Speaker 2: It was common common was on the Electric Electric Circus tour.
Speaker 2: So me and my brother at that concert, this girl
Speaker 2: comes out of nowhere like you're hilarious, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know me, She's like, yeah, you hosted that MC
Speaker 2: battle at New Mexico State. You are hilarious. And that's
Speaker 2: what it registered like, Man, I'm must be really funny
Speaker 2: because this girl came out of nowhere with this, and
Speaker 2: so I was just like, it just echoed. It always echoed,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, I'm funny. That's crazy. And
Speaker 2: then you start thinking it's like the end of the
Speaker 2: usual Suspects. I'm piecing it.
Speaker 1: All together, like, Yo, why did it take till two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven or two thousand and eight for you
Speaker 1: to actually act on the common side Now?
Speaker 2: So it's like, all right, I want to act. Though
Speaker 2: that was always the focused like, even though I grew
Speaker 2: up watching stand up, I never liked was like I
Speaker 2: want to do that. I want to act, and so
Speaker 2: I was just like and then I got to thinking
Speaker 2: about all the comedians that became actors. I was like,
Speaker 2: that's a nice transition acting. Thinking about Robin Williams was
Speaker 2: the main in print for that, because he was doing
Speaker 2: dramatic and comedic, and he was a stand up commershore
Speaker 2: like Robin Williams is the template, and so I was
Speaker 2: just like, maybe I can get noticed doing stand up.
Speaker 2: That's why. That's what gave me the drive to try
Speaker 2: to stand up?
Speaker 4: Okay, And then then when I did it, I was like,
Speaker 4: this is it, this is what I was supposed to
Speaker 4: be doing.
Speaker 2: Wow, the whole time was supposed to be stand up.
Speaker 2: And so I was like, and so once I did
Speaker 2: that first open mic, that went well. Then five minutes
Speaker 2: at the Ha Ha in North Hollywood, it went well.
Speaker 2: I went every day. I was going back every day.
Speaker 2: It was NonStop.
Speaker 1: I was just like, now, when did you start elevating
Speaker 1: to work in other clubs? Did they just start reaching
Speaker 1: out or you start making relationships?
Speaker 2: So in LA there's open mics all over the city.
Speaker 2: So we're just doing the open mic circuit. We're doing
Speaker 2: We're going to the comedy comedy store signing up for
Speaker 2: their open mic. We're doing the improv, We're doing the
Speaker 2: Laugh Factory, We're doing all these spots, We're doing these
Speaker 2: coffee houses. Were doing every every piece of comedy stage
Speaker 2: we can get our hands on. We were doing that.
Speaker 2: So that's how you start getting into these other clubs
Speaker 2: and so and people see you like, hey, man, do
Speaker 2: my show, and I'm doing Bringer shows, I'm doing all
Speaker 2: kinds of comedy competitions. I was just doing everything.
Speaker 1: And now LA is a tough market when it comes
Speaker 1: to comedy because everything that I've understood LA comedy to
Speaker 1: be is like the clubs out here don't really pay
Speaker 1: that well or pretty terrible compared to New York.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they like those open mics. I was doing that.
Speaker 2: I started doing. I paid for that stay. I remember.
Speaker 1: I remember knowing that like LA usually pay, beginning to
Speaker 1: pay every time, it could be a coffee shop, wherever
Speaker 1: you get paying up perform. And then at what point
Speaker 1: during this whole career do you start to see uh,
Speaker 1: like a hope towards money, money land prom money, promised land,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure it was like a long road. And
Speaker 1: at this point, you know this is what two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight, you're like, Okay, I'm in now, you found
Speaker 1: you found your niche. How long for that niche until
Speaker 1: you start like actually getting a check that's like, hey, honey,
Speaker 1: look what I brought home.
Speaker 2: It was the first time I was like where I
Speaker 2: got like substantial three figures.
Speaker 1: Okay, three.
Speaker 2: We did a road gig because I had you remember
Speaker 2: it though, absolutely, this is the first road gig I did.
Speaker 2: It was ridiculous when I think about it now, how
Speaker 2: much I get paid for the amount of drive.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's still exciting now.
Speaker 2: So my wife's cousin, my ex wife's cousin, he was
Speaker 2: doing stand up. So he was the one that took
Speaker 2: me to the High High to go up. His name
Speaker 2: was to Sean Barrett, and so he was like, yo,
Speaker 2: we got a gig in New Mexico, you know, And
Speaker 2: it was like so they pretty much I drove my
Speaker 2: car out. There was me and him and two other comedians.
Speaker 2: So we drove all the way out to New Mexico.
Speaker 2: This is like eleven hour drive and to do this
Speaker 2: winery or whatever. And so we get out there. I
Speaker 2: think I ended up just getting three hundred That was
Speaker 2: my cut. I don't know, you know what else everybody
Speaker 2: else made.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, this is that's kind of
Speaker 1: cool though, right right? And how long was it set?
Speaker 2: So I ended up doing like twenty five minutes okay,
Speaker 2: And this this is early on, like I was like, man,
Speaker 2: I had that much material. It was just like and
Speaker 2: then I ended up staying with like some friends of
Speaker 2: mine or whatever, while the rest of the comedians was
Speaker 2: at the hotel or whatever or the dorms wherever they
Speaker 2: put us up at. Now I get people out here,
Speaker 2: I'll be over here. And so I was just like,
Speaker 2: man with three hundred, even though you know, I drove
Speaker 2: my car, it was justus.
Speaker 1: That's still exciting to know that, like you got to
Speaker 1: do something you love compared to the hourly rate of anything.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, it's like an incredible feat.
Speaker 1: I mean, at least that.
Speaker 2: Was the most tamony money I had seen at that time.
Speaker 1: So then you go home, you brag, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Now you're like, I gotta get more.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. It was like, okay, there is something to this.
Speaker 2: The road is where the money is, so now I
Speaker 2: have to get to the point where I can work
Speaker 2: on the road. And so but I was just always
Speaker 2: just trying to get better, putting my hands and everything
Speaker 2: I can get my hands on, winning some comedy competitions
Speaker 2: which brought money and bookings, and so it was just
Speaker 2: like it was that it was that process of just like,
Speaker 2: you know, doing everything, not turning away from stuff and
Speaker 2: just growing, getting my name out there and meeting other comedians.
Speaker 1: And at this point, you're still doing the house husbands
Speaker 1: during the day.
Speaker 2: During the day, I'm getting up in the morning, bags
Speaker 2: under vines, getting the boys ready.
Speaker 1: For school, or making like you don't understand what I'm
Speaker 1: going through right.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So here here's here's the moment where it was
Speaker 2: just like it was a dust up because I was
Speaker 2: still playing video games too. So yeah, she came off
Speaker 2: from work one time and I was on call of duty.
Speaker 2: She was just like nah. I was like, she's I
Speaker 2: can tell she was just like, nah, you over here.
Speaker 2: I'm over here working and you over here and gaming
Speaker 2: it up. I know what that looked like. And so
Speaker 2: you know, at.
Speaker 1: This point, the kids are at school.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing they was in school, like she had got
Speaker 2: off early or whatever. I felt like I got caught.
Speaker 2: I rather had got caught with my dick and somebody else.
Speaker 1: You feel what you feel like.
Speaker 2: I felt like, oh you what you're doing home? I'm
Speaker 2: on I'm on call of duty. You know. I was
Speaker 2: just like, oh man, I felt like cold busted.
Speaker 1: So that's hilarious.
Speaker 2: And then but then there was a moment like later
Speaker 2: on it was just like I kind of I kind
Speaker 2: of went off a little bit because it was like
Speaker 2: I do do a lot, you know, so I was
Speaker 2: just like, you don't know what it's like to hit
Speaker 2: it with you know what it's like, No know what
Speaker 2: it's like. I'm getting these boys together, I'm doing this
Speaker 2: and that It was just like while also feeling like
Speaker 2: less of a man because she's the bread winner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I love to hear that you you
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but I love to hear
Speaker 1: that you had to experience that side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was the wife that was getting overlooked for
Speaker 2: my contribution. And then I got a job after that.
Speaker 2: After that moment, I was like, let.
Speaker 1: Me get a job like a day job so you
Speaker 1: can still do the night still.
Speaker 2: I had to find a job where it was flexible
Speaker 2: enough to where I could still pursue acting comedy still
Speaker 2: hold the kids down. So I was able to find
Speaker 2: something through my friend Sean Jones. It was like an
Speaker 2: inventory where we counted inventory at different stores. You can
Speaker 2: pretty much set your own schedule. So because of that moment,
Speaker 2: I was like, let me get a job. So I
Speaker 2: was still holding the boys down.
Speaker 1: So now now you're at least you're you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm you was you was really doing new thing, Okay.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that I was trying to traumatizing.
Speaker 2: I was trying to I was trying to do the
Speaker 2: best that I could while still staying focused on the
Speaker 2: reason why.
Speaker 1: I can find the balance. I like that you did that.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's cool because it was like, man, you know
Speaker 2: it was And I didn't hold that against her because
Speaker 2: I know what that looked like. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I'm not here working and you're playing call of duty.
Speaker 2: I was just like, you know, so I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, I just had that. I just had to
Speaker 2: have that little blowout real quick. But then I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, she right, let me let me contribute
Speaker 2: money as well. Yeah, and so that's why I got
Speaker 2: that job.
Speaker 1: Problem. So yeah, when does it trickling where you have
Speaker 1: where you get to the point where you're like by
Speaker 1: inventory job, Well.
Speaker 2: I quit that job pretty quickly because it was like
Speaker 2: I was doing because all I'm thinking about while I'm
Speaker 2: doing that gig, because this is at night, because this
Speaker 2: is after the stores closed, I'm just thinking about.
Speaker 1: I thought it was allowing you to do comedy and
Speaker 1: take care of the.
Speaker 2: No, it was it was it was a night gig.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you were allowed you could make money, but
Speaker 1: you could take care of the boys, but you couldn't
Speaker 1: do comedy.
Speaker 2: Right. It was just like, this ain't gonna work because
Speaker 2: I was like, because it had to be when the
Speaker 2: stores were, you know, down. So I was just like,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking about comedy the whole time. Yeah, taking
Speaker 2: the inventory, I'm thinking about material. And so it was
Speaker 2: just like, so I was, you know, scheduling myself so
Speaker 2: I can still do comedy several days a week and work.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, once I started getting more
Speaker 2: and more gigs, I was, I just quit sending in
Speaker 2: my schedule.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you were starting to get enough to like
Speaker 1: phase out the inventory. Yeah, and without your wife being.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, because you know, because she's all the work
Speaker 2: that was being put in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and well she I'm sure she saw the effort too, like, hey,
Speaker 1: he's trying.
Speaker 2: He listened, he tried.
Speaker 1: I think women they wanted to see effort. You heard me,
Speaker 1: you heard me. It penetrated, right, I'm.
Speaker 2: Definitely penetrated for sure.
Speaker 1: So at what point in your career are you like,
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent on this craft. Is it like
Speaker 1: your first acting gig or is it like your first
Speaker 1: what's that first big pivotal moment where you're like, I
Speaker 1: got this like one hundred percent, never looking back with
Speaker 1: a check attached, because I think until you fully get
Speaker 1: a check that can sustain yourself, it's still a little
Speaker 1: bit of still am I doing the right thing? It's
Speaker 1: still still oh still.
Speaker 2: Like that kind of sort of not necessarily, but comedy
Speaker 2: as much as acting per still because you know I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not an established actor like that. Yeah, still
Speaker 2: to this day. So it's like, but comedy is like,
Speaker 2: here's what I loved about comedy more so than acting,
Speaker 2: where I felt like, Okay, I can keep this going.
Speaker 2: Of course, social media has changed the game tremendously.
Speaker 1: And you dominated it pretty well.
Speaker 2: It's it's allowed me to for a lot of people
Speaker 2: to see me everywhere, and so now if I come
Speaker 2: to your city's it's Tony, you know, even if even
Speaker 2: if you know me for the voice, so you still
Speaker 2: be like, let's go see him live, Let's see what
Speaker 2: he's he's like. Live and so it's like, ah, And
Speaker 2: the reason I focused so hard on stand up over
Speaker 2: acting was because I was more in control of my
Speaker 2: own destiny with the stand up. You know, with acting,
Speaker 2: you're at the mercy of casting, director, producer, director, script whatever.
Speaker 2: There's so many things that are out of your control
Speaker 2: when you're just an actor. You don't have the right look,
Speaker 2: you didn't look right on camera with this other person, whatever,
Speaker 2: whether you book it, whether you don't book it, it's
Speaker 2: so much out of your control. It's just like I
Speaker 2: can't live like that. But stand up, I control the
Speaker 2: table more. It's like I can book my own gigs.
Speaker 2: I can sign up for this, I can do this,
Speaker 2: I can I can do my own show and just
Speaker 2: promote it myself. And there's so many avenues that I
Speaker 2: have so much more.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I feel like a business owner. Now, I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm for real because it's like I'm putting all the
Speaker 2: work in and I'm seeing the results of the work
Speaker 2: I'm putting in, and then when I do perform, I'm
Speaker 2: getting the feedback from the from the customer base directly.
Speaker 2: So it's just like, oh, I had a great time.
Speaker 2: It's like and I was able to control that myself.
Speaker 2: And so that's what made me be like, all right,
Speaker 2: stand up is the.
Speaker 1: Is the move now when you look at the way
Speaker 1: things have changed, because now we're in a whole different era.
Speaker 1: Like I always tell my dad, like he'll talk to
Speaker 1: me about a show, and I'm like, Dad, it was
Speaker 1: the last time you really went home and watched TV? Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I barely know how to work my TV
Speaker 1: at this point. I know there's a Netflix button, Yeah
Speaker 1: there's Amazon. But you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 1: push whatever button or like slide to the icon. But
Speaker 1: the last time I actually flipped through a television, I
Speaker 1: can't tell you. And I heard not gonna say the
Speaker 1: name drop the person. But I was just telling Jerry
Speaker 1: back there that like Amazon is now paying for content
Speaker 1: way more than even networks are. Right, So now when
Speaker 1: you see the ship, do you still feel like acting?
Speaker 1: Like you can't control acting the way you controlled comedy still.
Speaker 2: Because it's like unless I was like a writer, director
Speaker 2: or something like that, it would be a different conversation.
Speaker 2: But since I'm just like purely just on the acting
Speaker 2: side of it right now, it's like I still got
Speaker 2: auditions still, gotta unless they come to me with like, yo,
Speaker 2: we want you in this. That's that's the dream, that's
Speaker 2: the ideal situation. I have books stuff like that. But
Speaker 2: like and now too, it's we're so oversaturated with content
Speaker 2: and different platforms and where you can see anything. It
Speaker 2: becomes like because you got Netflix, you got Amazon, and
Speaker 2: now you.
Speaker 1: Have all these other people that are like I want
Speaker 1: to create my own.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and so it's just like, so it's people are
Speaker 2: oversaturated with like choices options, so it's a lot of
Speaker 2: content out there, and so it's just like we got
Speaker 2: streaming platforms and you know, movie theaters are struggling, and
Speaker 2: so it's just like and I'm just sitting there like, well,
Speaker 2: regardless of what happens, as long as it is there's
Speaker 2: not another pandemic, there's no substitute for live entertainment ever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you gotta take your girl out. Yes, you gotta take
Speaker 2: your girl out. Y'all can't be watching Netflix all the time.
Speaker 2: Let's go Somewhere's go somewhere, Let's go somewhere. I want
Speaker 2: to be out, I want to be cute, I want
Speaker 2: to be somewhere exactly. And so live entertainment does that,
Speaker 2: so it's like and stand up is live.
Speaker 1: So it's like, so what would you say, like, we're
Speaker 1: the hardest things to digest as a comedian as far
Speaker 1: as as all the way up to this date, like
Speaker 1: what are some of the hardest things to like digest
Speaker 1: as a comic?
Speaker 2: The hardest thing is just like the struggle. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you go through so much comedy, years and
Speaker 2: years of just like just getting by. Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. But even then, like I got divorced
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, so I was living off of stand
Speaker 2: up and whatever I booked on the sketch side or whatever,
Speaker 2: and so that's when I started working with all death
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and I was like, whoa, it
Speaker 2: was like every month, I was like, thank you laugh
Speaker 2: actory I'm just but I'm living off the craft. But
Speaker 2: it was just like.
Speaker 1: Like you like, you're surviving every month? Yes, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I know what that's like. I'm familiar with that doing
Speaker 1: that today.
Speaker 2: Surviving month. Let's go care me. I won this competition.
Speaker 2: Who needed that?
Speaker 1: And you're and you're also I'm guessing you're amazing with
Speaker 1: money at this point. Oh yeah, like you know how
Speaker 1: to live on a budget. You know how your cash
Speaker 1: flow works.
Speaker 2: Budget. Oh, I love that. I was just like h
Speaker 2: and I had a roommate, so that that's taking some
Speaker 2: of the edge off. And so I'm just like bare minimum,
Speaker 2: getting the boys what they need, saving as much as possible,
Speaker 2: paying the rent, paying the utilities, Uh, anything wrong with
Speaker 2: the car, just like you know, I've just been good
Speaker 2: with money.
Speaker 1: Good, you know. And so now that's something you had
Speaker 1: to learn during this whole pursuit or did were you
Speaker 1: like that before?
Speaker 2: I think I started learning it once. I was in college,
Speaker 2: those college days and we was dead broke. We was
Speaker 2: dead broke.
Speaker 1: I think like, yeah, I could tell because you was
Speaker 1: eing bread with this cream of corn.
Speaker 2: Tell you something I learned it squandering the financial aid money.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay okay.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, I squandered all that money
Speaker 2: on clothes or whatever. And so now I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I'm looking like a jackass now because I'm in the
Speaker 2: super struggle and they don't have to pay this money
Speaker 2: back because I got loans, and so it was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: so those those were the lessons my dad always told us, Yo,
Speaker 2: save your money, save your money, man. Watch out man,
Speaker 2: watch out, you know, and so he instilled in us
Speaker 2: early like save your money. We was like all right, sure,
Speaker 2: but then it was like he was right and so
Speaker 2: all of that and I'm still that way, like you know,
Speaker 2: like this year, well, twenty twenty four, that's the most
Speaker 2: money I ever spent in like a year, because it
Speaker 2: was just like I was just sitting on money, all
Speaker 2: the money I had accumulated over all this time. It
Speaker 2: was just like, okay, I need to buy a house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been seeing your stories. You got a nice house.
Speaker 1: You're renovating it and building it.
Speaker 2: And finally bought a house and it was like and
Speaker 2: this was after like you know, I paid my mom's
Speaker 2: house all off, and then I was just like I
Speaker 2: still didn't have a house myself, but I was I
Speaker 2: was perfectly happy with doing that for I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: life is yeah, I could check out right now and
Speaker 2: I'm good. But it was like and then my my
Speaker 2: ex girlfriend she was just like, well, think about like
Speaker 2: you know, something you want to leave behind for sincere
Speaker 2: and so.
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, you right, generational wealth, that's
Speaker 1: what it was.
Speaker 2: And so it was just like all right, I got
Speaker 2: to make a move because I was scared to buy
Speaker 2: a house because it just looked like a lot CALLI
Speaker 2: price is a ridiculous crazy I was.
Speaker 1: Just like the first time I bought a house. As
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, you have imposter syndrome. You're like, are they
Speaker 1: really gonna believe that I'm going to survive? And buying
Speaker 1: a house, I think is the ultimate test because a
Speaker 1: bank has to believe you're not going to go broken. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I want to know, like, how did it
Speaker 1: feel to know that the bank was like you're approved?
Speaker 1: And did you feel like, yo, I like I'm official
Speaker 1: or did you just know I mean the whole time
Speaker 1: or did you have a little bit of imposter syndrome
Speaker 1: throughout the whole thing and then you get that final
Speaker 1: stamp of For me, at least, it was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm a legit, right, I'm legit. They said yes to
Speaker 1: the craziest to the craziest gammel of life because they
Speaker 1: are rigorous. They're like, why did you move this money
Speaker 1: to this money in this account to discount discount? Why
Speaker 1: did you do this and this and this?
Speaker 2: There? Maybe in there ye ask too many questions. I
Speaker 2: was legit. Yeah, it's legit trust me. Now, I wann't
Speaker 2: trust nobody.
Speaker 1: After getting on my first after getting my house, I
Speaker 1: just remember going, I am never gonna move my money
Speaker 1: around the accounts the way, even though I do now
Speaker 1: come struggle a little bit, but usually if I'm good,
Speaker 1: I keep them very separated. Because my first house experience,
Speaker 1: they questioned every transaction. They're like, why did you move
Speaker 1: this from this account? This is discount where this money
Speaker 1: come from?
Speaker 2: And this is right, the money's there, isn't it.
Speaker 1: You think I'm gonna remember two thousand and I get
Speaker 1: but it felt good, didn't feel legit, like tell me
Speaker 1: about so.
Speaker 2: So I thought about getting the house in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one and it was like that's that's when I put
Speaker 2: my toes in the water, like let me see what
Speaker 2: this is like, you know what I'm saying. Because I
Speaker 2: knew I needed it was like because I was living under.
Speaker 1: My means for so yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: I was scared. I was in that same two bedroom apartment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: dirty carpet. It was just like but then I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, I want my boys to live with me,
Speaker 2: so I need more space. So I was just like,
Speaker 2: all right, I need to find the biggest space I
Speaker 2: was gonna rent. The biggest spot with the burdbank prices
Speaker 2: was they was crazy, and so I was like, man,
Speaker 2: let me look out in Santa Clarita or whatever. And
Speaker 2: then I was like, you know I should buy a house.
Speaker 1: Yeap, you should, especially at the rents.
Speaker 2: So so they gave me. They gave me a quote
Speaker 2: the pre approval, and I was just like, I was
Speaker 2: looking that the pre approval they they you know, approved
Speaker 2: me for compared to what the houses were going for
Speaker 2: in sam Cared, and I was like, I didn't really
Speaker 2: like that. I was just like, damn, that's not enough.
Speaker 2: And so I was just like because I didn't, I
Speaker 2: didn't want to settle for of course. So then I
Speaker 2: was like, all right, I'll just rent and I was
Speaker 2: just going back then. It was horse.
Speaker 1: I knew you back then, because I would have told
Speaker 1: you settle, man, settle, settle. I would I would have
Speaker 1: instantly told you to settle. I tell all my girlfriends
Speaker 1: that this is first, it's your first. Just settle. You're
Speaker 1: just looking at equity. I was just like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe you did it. So you waited till twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four in the high interest rate.
Speaker 2: So now the interest rate now.
Speaker 1: Is just like and the prices it was disgusting.
Speaker 2: But what the approved I saw. I saw the jump
Speaker 2: in preapproval.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's good though, and you were working towards something.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a big difference is what I was pre
Speaker 2: approved for in twenty twenty, twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Also at that time it was probably really high.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, I was just like, now I can work
Speaker 2: with this, and so I went in way under.
Speaker 1: Yeah I approved me for of course, I'm glad to
Speaker 1: hear that too. Financial literacy do I'm.
Speaker 2: Not pushing it to the limit and so so yeah,
Speaker 2: so that felt good. I was scared shitless though, Like
Speaker 2: I got cool feed several times throughout the process. Even
Speaker 2: after I bought it, I was still just like, that
Speaker 2: was me. I make the right choice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you realize that. I always like to tell people.
Speaker 1: I bought my house with two hundred and sixty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars ten years ago in Cali. In Cali it's a townhouse,
Speaker 1: but still still and I begged all my girlfriends to
Speaker 1: buy homes at that time. You know, I was with
Speaker 1: the low interest rate I had. My interest is four
Speaker 1: and a quarter. And I also did as an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: You know the game you you like to hide money
Speaker 1: in the tax error, so that bites you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's twofold, know you you don't report as much, you
Speaker 1: get lower approval. So at the time, I was very fortunate.
Speaker 1: So thank god I got approved for that because let
Speaker 1: me tell you, my life has been nothing but like
Speaker 1: it's all roller coaster, high risk or whatever. So what
Speaker 1: I did was because the house payments are so low,
Speaker 1: every Christmas, I will Christmas present the principal. Yes, so
Speaker 1: I always do like a twenty thousand dollars a year
Speaker 1: principal payment on December. Every December, Yeah, my house would
Speaker 1: be paid off like next year. That's crazy. And all
Speaker 1: my friends, you know what, they tell me, you're an idiot.
Speaker 1: Why did you do that? Why would you do that?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, well, guess what we're gonna airb
Speaker 1: and be this bitch like next year.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you that. Let me ask you this
Speaker 2: on on this principal day. Do you have to specifically.
Speaker 1: Mark principle only on the actual check? Oh see you cannot, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I made that mistake. So they have so many
Speaker 1: different loan programs out there. For everybody that's ever interested
Speaker 1: in buying home I always advise you, like there's nonprofits
Speaker 1: in LA that will do like it's like seventy five
Speaker 1: bucks and they teach you a whole course on home buying.
Speaker 1: I think I paid for it. It was worth every
Speaker 1: penny A lot of times if you graduate, they give
Speaker 1: you like a if you complete the course, so it'll
Speaker 1: could be like some kind of down payment assistance. So
Speaker 1: I did that. When I bought mine, this was like
Speaker 1: ten years ago. I begged all my girlfriends. Of course,
Speaker 1: you know, I was like thirty, so you know, girls
Speaker 1: are still young. They were like, girl, you whatever, you
Speaker 1: wait till you get married. I was like, just in case,
Speaker 1: just in case. But no, there's so many programs out there.
Speaker 1: But I one of my homies, like two years after
Speaker 1: one of my ex boyfriends, two years after I bought
Speaker 1: the house, was like, you're an idiot, Like you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay all this interest, Like look at how
Speaker 1: much you're gonna pay for the house right later, And
Speaker 1: I told you, I'm like half Jewish, So I I
Speaker 1: looked at it and then I said, I realized that
Speaker 1: I would be paying like by the time I was done,
Speaker 1: I was gonna be paying like four hundred or five
Speaker 1: hundred thousand for the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when I realized that they had this like mortgage
Speaker 1: payment calculator you can google, So I googled it and
Speaker 1: I just put in, like how much would I have
Speaker 1: to pay to pay it off by the time I'm forty, right,
Speaker 1: And it was like twenty k a year? Okay, So
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, at the end of every year,
Speaker 1: I'll just add an extra twenty k. But also if
Speaker 1: you do just an extra house payment, it cuts it
Speaker 1: down like ten years. Okay, but I just I do
Speaker 1: that method, I'm just like fuck it. And then but
Speaker 1: you got to remember the best part of owning a
Speaker 1: house is that you get to write off the interests.
Speaker 1: So once you get to the principal point, so like,
Speaker 1: your tax are gonna be great this year and for
Speaker 1: the next couple of years, I'm at the point where
Speaker 1: there's no more interest left. Really principle, like I make
Speaker 1: a payment, it's like ninety percent is.
Speaker 3: Going to principles fly, but you have But the catch
Speaker 3: now is that if you're an entrepreneur on the taxi,
Speaker 3: it's gonna hurt because you know when you're married and
Speaker 3: you own real.
Speaker 1: Estate, those are like great write offs. The most money
Speaker 1: I've ever gotten back in my life is like the
Speaker 1: day I got Oh, I got married. I didn't know
Speaker 1: you could get money back. So I've learned a lot.
Speaker 1: But I'm excited to hear. I love financial literacy, so
Speaker 1: it's really nice to hear that you you went through that,
Speaker 1: and I get to see your home as it progress
Speaker 1: is online. You're doing a lot of work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I might as well make it because I've
Speaker 2: never had.
Speaker 1: A six foot person tub.
Speaker 2: I saw I can fit in there, I can stretch out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's tough, you know, finding that first contractor.
Speaker 1: I did that, Like when I first got my home
Speaker 1: and I the bill. They said it was going to
Speaker 1: be like a certain amount, and then it came out
Speaker 1: a lot bigger, of course, and I had a complete meltdown,
Speaker 1: com complete meltdown.
Speaker 2: I'm like whoa.
Speaker 1: And it was a terrible job.
Speaker 2: So oh wow.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm stay away from contractors for a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, but I'm happy to hear this. What
Speaker 1: are some milestones like in your story that like particularly
Speaker 1: stood out to you in your career that were like
Speaker 1: I've officially besides the like big home purchase, Like the.
Speaker 2: First time I was on that a comic standing on NBC,
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, I'm on TV. That's a comic.
Speaker 2: That was a big moment. It didn't change my life at.
Speaker 1: The time, did you think it was?
Speaker 2: I thought I thought it was gonna be on the
Speaker 2: road now, baby, but I didn't go far enough into it.
Speaker 2: And then I did another season of Last Comic saying
Speaker 2: I was like, man, this this, this is it right
Speaker 2: but it still wasn't it right there? And so but
Speaker 2: those were big moments, like when I when I booked
Speaker 2: that and I did especially that first time on Last Comic,
Speaker 2: I had a really good set and I thought and
Speaker 2: then it was like I didn't advance. I was like,
Speaker 2: that was crushed. So that was a big moment. And
Speaker 2: then when I went on the road, when I went
Speaker 2: on tour with Kevin on stage the Real Comedians Tour
Speaker 2: is Me Kevin to here, that was a great moment
Speaker 2: because it's like, Yo, we're on the road doing these shows.
Speaker 2: It was like my first tour. Yeah, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is fantastic. And we did it again, we went
Speaker 2: back to back on it. So I was just like
Speaker 2: those moments. And then when I went back on the
Speaker 2: road by myself and the tickets were selling, that's when
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: Just like, wow, yeah, that would be a huge moment.
Speaker 2: That that was the moment I was just like And
Speaker 2: so all of those little moments right there, it is
Speaker 2: just like, man, I really So now it's like I'm
Speaker 2: just in a good space of and I'm in I'm
Speaker 2: in the space of you know, And I know people
Speaker 2: get annoyed when people talk like this, where you're getting
Speaker 2: a certain financial situation, then you're like, money isn't everything.
Speaker 1: But money matters.
Speaker 2: Money does matter, and it for you. But it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, because I lost my oldest son, and so
Speaker 2: when I say money doesn't matter, I would give it
Speaker 2: all to get him back. So it's just like I
Speaker 2: would I would give everything in my account right now
Speaker 2: to get him back. So it's like, even even with
Speaker 2: the money, you're still heartbroken. So it's like dang. And
Speaker 2: then so now I'm in a space and me and
Speaker 2: keV on stage laugh about this all the time because
Speaker 2: he knows how I am. I will walk away from
Speaker 2: money now that I wouldn't have before for peace of mind,
Speaker 2: because since you know, since I did lose my son
Speaker 2: like that, I'm looking for peace above all else. So
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, they're offering this much money, but I
Speaker 2: know they're knowing to work with.
Speaker 1: Okay, That's what I was going to ask you. What
Speaker 1: is like, have you had a real bad example of
Speaker 1: like a deal gone bad where you're like never again.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not really like a bad deal. Well, but
Speaker 2: just like if I know the production will be raggedy
Speaker 2: in terms of how they run it, what's going on,
Speaker 2: I'll be like, I'm good if they get on my
Speaker 2: nerves too much, or if they doing too much stuff
Speaker 2: short notice or this is that, and the third I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm good. But the money, I'm like, nah, it's not
Speaker 2: because if I'm annoyed, it's just like I'd rather not
Speaker 2: deal with it because I'm always looking for the peace
Speaker 2: and so and so. Since I'm not a big spender,
Speaker 2: I don't stress about you know, I need the money.
Speaker 2: Of course I can use the money. I need the money.
Speaker 2: I want to make more money. But it's like if
Speaker 2: I got a sacrifice my little my little nerves for it,
Speaker 2: I'm walking away. And so I feel like I'm in
Speaker 2: a healthy relationship with like.
Speaker 1: Finances, it sounds like it sounds like you're good at
Speaker 1: it too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like, you know, I won't stress myself
Speaker 2: out for more money.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so as before, I be like, I'll do anything
Speaker 2: for the money.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, when you're coming from this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll I'll do whatever for a while.
Speaker 1: I have a very difficult question. I asked, Okay, with
Speaker 1: everything that happened with your son, dealing with that whole
Speaker 1: grief period, how did you like pull through it, especially
Speaker 1: being a comic.
Speaker 2: So, so he passed August third, twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 2: so I ended up going back on the road at
Speaker 2: the end of August to Atlanta. And so because I
Speaker 2: was like, because of course, you know, my team was
Speaker 2: just like, hey, you know, if you need to not
Speaker 2: do nothing, we we understund like, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to just sit and do nothing. I
Speaker 2: want to make people laugh. So I got back on
Speaker 2: the road and work finished out the rest of the
Speaker 2: tour for that year. And making people laugh was beneficial
Speaker 2: for me because I'm getting that good energy, because laughter
Speaker 2: is just great energy. Giving back making people laugh makes
Speaker 2: me feel fantastic. And so and then to hear about
Speaker 2: what people are going through themselves, Like, man, I can't
Speaker 2: you A comedy show just made you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I was having tough, I was in the dark place.
Speaker 2: This is that and the third and so it's like
Speaker 2: that good energy exchange. It's just like I needed that
Speaker 2: because if not, I was just gonna sit and just
Speaker 2: be done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And so it was like the working help help keep
Speaker 2: me going through that. And then I was like, but
Speaker 2: I did realize, yo, I need to sit down and
Speaker 2: take it. So I took it from like August third
Speaker 2: through like August twenty third. I was just you know,
Speaker 2: taking it walking still like I always do, trying to
Speaker 2: get everything together. Because we had like a little COVID
Speaker 2: outbreak within the family around that time. It was a
Speaker 2: mess and so and I was just like all right.
Speaker 2: So I finished out that tour and in the first
Speaker 2: two months of twenty twenty two, I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna just sit down and just grieve, you know, because
Speaker 2: I was never running from the grief. It was just
Speaker 2: I need to do something to bring me joy within
Speaker 2: the grief. And so then when I sat down, I
Speaker 2: was able to take it in. It's all right. And
Speaker 2: so then I got back to work. And so now
Speaker 2: and you know, my friend Chantee, she had lost her
Speaker 2: husband and she was just like the best thing I
Speaker 2: learned is, you know, grief comes in waves. Don't fight
Speaker 2: the waves, all right. So it's just like the water
Speaker 2: coming in. You just go with it and wherever it
Speaker 2: takes you. And so I live like that, Like when
Speaker 2: I have a wave, I take it. It's just like,
Speaker 2: all right, here we go. Like yesterday was his birthday,
Speaker 2: January third, so that day is always the hardest of
Speaker 2: the year, and so I was just like, I just
Speaker 2: chilled yesterday. I was crying off and on all day
Speaker 2: and then just keep going. And then that's what I do.
Speaker 2: And so and I talk about him a lot, like,
Speaker 2: you know, because a lot of times I've been watching
Speaker 2: this show called Cross on Amazon Prime and he's dealing
Speaker 2: with grief because his wife got murdered at the top
Speaker 2: of the show, and the way he's handling the grief
Speaker 2: just pisses me off because he has two children that
Speaker 2: lost their mom as well, but he can't like talk,
Speaker 2: he can't talk to them about her or play this.
Speaker 2: And I never wanted to be in a situation where
Speaker 2: I can't talk about my son because it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, I'll get too sad or whatever. It's like, no,
Speaker 2: it's just let's talk about him. I'm always down. I'm
Speaker 2: down to talk about what happened, how I got through
Speaker 2: it anytime.
Speaker 1: And with your other son, you're able to like go.
Speaker 2: Through that, yeah, because it's like we never want because
Speaker 2: a lot of times when we lose somebody, they kind
Speaker 2: of turn into the name that should not be mentioned,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, it's like, don't break up, And I
Speaker 2: never want that to be the case because I feel
Speaker 2: like he kind of just pushing your loved one. You're
Speaker 2: tucking it in, you put it in the trunk and
Speaker 2: then there. I feel like the love and the memory
Speaker 2: can't live on fully like that. So it's like I'm
Speaker 2: always down there, Like remember Serainemember. We always doing this,
Speaker 2: so we always like So for Christmas, my son lives
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. He graduated and he stayed up there,
Speaker 2: and so me, my ex wife and her husband, we
Speaker 2: all went up there to be with him for Christmas
Speaker 2: and so and we'll just be talking like you know,
Speaker 2: random memories, you know, we talking about Seraine. We talk
Speaker 2: about them, were talking.
Speaker 1: About but it's in like a good spirit.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's like, you know, we want his memory to
Speaker 2: live on.
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, I like it. I still think
Speaker 1: it's incredibly tough, like from the outside, Oh, for sure
Speaker 1: it looks you know, but I commend you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was like, you know, I used to
Speaker 2: see parents that lost their children, you know, on the
Speaker 2: news or whatever, and they be talking to the news
Speaker 2: and like, you know, my son was killed this weekend.
Speaker 2: I'll be like, how are you able to form a
Speaker 2: sentence like I would? I would think that, like, how
Speaker 2: were you able to? And then happened to us? And
Speaker 2: so it's like and I'm sitting here forming sentences like
Speaker 2: in ground zero, I was able to be on the
Speaker 2: news and be on this and that, and I'm just like,
Speaker 2: how am I able to do this?
Speaker 1: I literally just told that the other day. I was like,
Speaker 1: I had a bad dream, terrible dream. I thought I
Speaker 1: was going to die. Yeah, And I was like, I'll
Speaker 1: be honest back, like, I think that would be the
Speaker 1: straw for me. They definitely think that would be the
Speaker 1: day that I like, I'm done, like you know, And
Speaker 1: that's that's what I said from the outside, I'm like, whoa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was like I would never because I
Speaker 2: used to. As parents, we always have that thought like
Speaker 2: anything ever happened to any of our kid, I can't
Speaker 2: go too. But then it's like when the reality, the
Speaker 2: unfortunate reality, hits you in the mouth, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: what if I did shut down now? Now my my
Speaker 2: other son's sufferers. Now it's like, you know, my loved
Speaker 2: one suffer, I suffer, and who you lost would never
Speaker 2: want you to shut down because they're gone.
Speaker 1: Do you empathize with even though the guy from the
Speaker 1: Cross Show bothers you, do you? Does a small part
Speaker 1: of you empathize with him?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Because it's like it's hard because you never want
Speaker 2: to tell people how to greet But it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: when his son was asking him like how come you
Speaker 2: never talk about mom or whatever? And then he was like, well,
Speaker 2: his son would ask some questions about Mom and then
Speaker 2: he'd be like, oh, he started fumbling around or whatever,
Speaker 2: and then his son told him. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: when she died, it was like I lost both of you,
Speaker 2: and so that's when he was like, oh, Like they
Speaker 2: hit him in that moment because he was running from
Speaker 2: the conversations before. So it was just frustrating to see
Speaker 2: him run so much, especially when the kids were like, yeah, Dad,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And so it was like
Speaker 2: and so I never wanted to be like that, Like
Speaker 2: I was always aware of just like you gotta be
Speaker 2: there for sincere. You know what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 2: it's like and not only that, like I know if
Speaker 2: I if I was to pass away, I would never
Speaker 2: want my loved ones to be like, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And so, and another thing that gets me
Speaker 2: through a lot of this is that I don't have
Speaker 2: regrets as far as my relationship with Serene, because we
Speaker 2: were good. That's good. And so I think that's what
Speaker 2: helped me a lot is because there was no regret.
Speaker 2: There was no underlying beef, there was none of that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because if you got regrets, that's a whole nother emotional
Speaker 2: weight on you. With the grief. It's like, man, I
Speaker 2: should have I wish I would have. I could have
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. That'll tell you in half.
Speaker 2: And so that we were all good and the last
Speaker 2: words were I love you, I love you too. That's
Speaker 2: what he left here knowing he was loved and we
Speaker 2: were good. So that brings me peace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I mean to good on that. I thank
Speaker 1: you so much for being on the show. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I didn't get to touch on everything I wanted to
Speaker 1: be with hello over the minutes, but thank you so much.
Speaker 1: How can everyone keep up with you? Can you tell
Speaker 1: us a little bit about the tour directly into that
Speaker 1: camera camera?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called the Replenished Pockets Tour. Like I said before,
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of money this past year, good money.
Speaker 2: I wasn't wasting money, but it was a lot of
Speaker 2: money spent. So now I got to replenish the pockets.
Speaker 2: Now I'm back on the road. You can find my
Speaker 2: tour days at Tonybakercomedy dot com. Really keep up with
Speaker 2: me on Instagram. That's my main primary area of where
Speaker 2: I promote Tony Baker on Instagram. Don't underscores, no nothing,
Speaker 2: It's just straight Tony Baker. I'll be doing the Bay Area, Sacramento, Tampa, Miami, Raleigh, Chicago,
Speaker 2: New York, Charlotte, d C, Houston. I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: forgetting somebody, but uh, my whole schedule is up I'm
Speaker 2: promoted every day, so just stay tuned, man. I would
Speaker 2: love for y'all to come to these live shows. And
Speaker 2: at the at the end of the year, me and
Speaker 2: keV we're gonna do something with the Ball Brothers. We're
Speaker 2: gonna do a tour for that as well in the
Speaker 2: later half of the years. So I'm out here, man.
Speaker 1: He's out here in the streets, So pull up and
Speaker 1: see him live.
Speaker 2: Yes, replenish the pocket.
Speaker 1: Replenished the pocket. We want to see the house, and
Speaker 1: you'll give us updates on the house. We can start
Speaker 1: Untie to see the updates. So let's replenish and make
Speaker 1: sure this house looks magnificent. To replenish those pockets.
Speaker 2: Tour, Yes, that's the tour.
Speaker 1: Man at Tony Baker. Peace out, y'all. Thanks for tuning
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