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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special guest, comedian and actor. Legendary comedian actor, legend legendary. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've been in the game long enough to be legendary.

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Speaker 1: Tony Bakers in the building. How good. I'm very excited

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Speaker 1: to be very excited to have you on the show.

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Speaker 1: A little concerned about the dish you're gonna be having

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Speaker 1: me eat today. I'm concerned. I'm excited because I've never

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Speaker 1: had this dish on the show. We've taped like one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen episodes, so to never have a dish

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Speaker 1: is like very amazing. I literally hate Ramen to the

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Speaker 1: ultimate max. I've had great Ramen and terrible Ramen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm excited about this dish. But I literally had

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Speaker 1: called like five people, like I think he's just testing

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Speaker 1: to see if I'm gonna eat this.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: So go ahead and tell everybody what your dishes.

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Speaker 2: So my dish is cream corn sandwiches. Okay, Now this

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Speaker 2: is not something I ate on the regular. It was

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Speaker 2: a one There was a one time only affair.

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Speaker 1: One and done one and done that means it's not good.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember what it tastes like. It was just like, man,

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Speaker 2: I got cream corn in here, there's bread.

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Speaker 1: And before he started taping, he was like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: really gonna eat this right, And I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: heck no, you know you're gonna eat this with me?

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Speaker 2: Ladies.

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Speaker 1: First, I don't mind. I mean, I'm Jamaican. So we

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Speaker 1: we eat literally everything good at least once.

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Speaker 2: That's how it should be at least once.

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Speaker 1: So go ahead, start making this. The ingredients are, what's

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Speaker 1: the ingredients for your dish today?

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Speaker 2: So we got the cream corn. Okay, first, as I can,

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Speaker 2: I haven't had cream corn. I feel like I haven't

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Speaker 2: had cream corn since I had the cream corn sandwich.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I can't remember. Yeah, of course cream corn.

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Speaker 2: I like the spray, you know. Now, I didn't use

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Speaker 2: the coconut oil back then. I think I used just whatever.

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Speaker 2: I think we had pam in there, whatever we had.

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Speaker 2: I just sprayed the pant over with that. Because I

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Speaker 2: grilled the bread and just some wheat bread. It might

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Speaker 2: not even been wheat then, I don't know, like I

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Speaker 2: feel like it was wheat. This was like, mind you,

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Speaker 2: this was ninety ninety nine. I think this was ninety nine,

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Speaker 2: and you maybe even ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: So you you went as far as to make shift

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Speaker 1: cook this day. So you took the cream corn, you

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Speaker 1: heat it up in the pot, I'm assuming, and you

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Speaker 1: actually made the bread. So this was a very thought out.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I was trying to jazz it up

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Speaker 2: as much as possible, like I'll.

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Speaker 1: Jack it up for who me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it was that's been messed, but at least

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Speaker 2: I can class it up. Okay, Well, I feel like

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Speaker 2: when you when you when you grill the bread, classing

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and make me this gormet gormet cream corn.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I had cream corn.

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Speaker 1: I'm like nervous and excited because I remember liking it

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Speaker 1: back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Creek corn was a good time. Yeah, creek corn was.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, when I was a kid, it was

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Speaker 1: a good time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know, taste bush changed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We think we better than stuff we used to have.

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Speaker 1: And you're vegan now right, I'm one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred percent vegetarian, mostly vegan. Now. Why I say that

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Speaker 2: is because like if I if I want a cookie.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Like, is that real body?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna get the cookie.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it's like or if I want, like if

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Speaker 2: I go to the waffle house and I get a waffle.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're not gonna okay, if I if I got

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Speaker 1: this because you were specific about you know, if you

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Speaker 1: can't find vegan.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know, because the can stuff they add a

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Speaker 2: lot of animal whatever. Okay, So I tend to avoid

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, is there a reason for this slide?

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Speaker 2: But if it's like you know, like the pork and beans,

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Speaker 2: or you know, there's gelatine in this animal bones or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I meant, animal bones.

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Speaker 2: Gelatine is like usually an animal bone.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't know that. So does it smell

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Speaker 1: like cream corse, take a whiff of it. It is

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Speaker 1: a nostalgic. Yeah, that tastes that tastes that smells official, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I haven't had cream corner

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Speaker 2: mad long Okay, Okay, so now I'm gonna get it.

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Speaker 2: I hate electric stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you told me, but this one gets

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Speaker 1: hot real fast looking. Look, why do you hate it?

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Speaker 2: You see that, because I feel like I could never

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Speaker 2: get the the heat right, and I'll never forget. One

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Speaker 2: time I was visiting my brother in Toasta, Oklahoma, and

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Speaker 2: I was bragging about my French toast the whole week.

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Speaker 2: Then my French toast is legendary. Man, y'all, y'all ain't

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Speaker 2: ready for me. And at this time, like he was,

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Speaker 2: he was, uh, you know, this girl was living with him.

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Speaker 2: His girlfriend had two twin boys and they were like teenagers.

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Speaker 2: I had my family there, so it was like I

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Speaker 2: was talking cat can I cuss on? Yeah, I was

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Speaker 2: talking cash ship and then I was like, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And then when I made that

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Speaker 2: big breakfast for everybody, I the French toasts.

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Speaker 1: Terrible, all because of the electric So yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because I was it was burning. I burned the majority

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Speaker 2: of the French and I was like, man, I'm done.

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Speaker 1: I think the secret to good French toast is in

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Speaker 1: my twin could debate this, but a healthy balance of

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Speaker 1: butter and sugar. Am I right? No sugar?

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Speaker 2: Disagree?

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Speaker 1: Sugar?

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Speaker 2: I got sugar. The sugar. You don't need to add

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Speaker 1: Fresh tost Oh see, my swe just did that to me,

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Speaker 1: and I'll be honest. She was like, did you try

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Speaker 1: did you try it? And I was like, sugar, because.

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Speaker 2: You got the scare what you need the sugar for.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm scared to try your French tos. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: we STI He said it was legendary. No, the trick

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Speaker 1: to great French toast is to make sure you add

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Speaker 1: cinnamon and sugar.

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Speaker 2: Answer you, still you're doing too much? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: About the sugar on top of the French toes. You

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Speaker 2: like that?

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Speaker 1: No, but I mean if there was, that's how they restaurant.

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Speaker 1: I would if there was. But I'll tell you right now.

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Speaker 1: I just had French toast from my twin the other day.

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Speaker 1: She was raving about it, and she said that she

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Speaker 1: used a little bit of a combo mix of cinnamon

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Speaker 1: with sugar in it. And I tried it. It just

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Speaker 1: tasted like cinnamon toast.

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Speaker 2: Oh did she did? She get the egg and evaporated milk? Oh?

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Speaker 1: You put evaporated milk in it? You gotta that's a cheat.

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Speaker 2: You gotta make the rout. The root is essential.

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Speaker 1: Okay, tell us how to make this good French toast?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you need eggs, a little evaporated milk, thattmeg, cinnamon,

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Speaker 2: vanilla extract, and butter is like optional. Use the butter.

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Speaker 1: I just used the butter. Yeah, get yeah, of course

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Speaker 1: you have that little butter hen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's that's it.

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Speaker 1: Evaporated milkporated milk. So that's like the same as sugar

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Speaker 1: kind of but.

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Speaker 2: It's but it's not but it's not sure.

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Speaker 1: I want to try this.

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want to try this as.

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Speaker 2: Long as I'm making on the electric stoves fire. So

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Speaker 2: and now now that they got like they had this

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Speaker 2: French toast, they kind of make bread now where they

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Speaker 1: To French toast, like the brochet bread or something, but

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Speaker 1: they had ever made it on brio spread. I think

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Speaker 1: I tried it once and I messed it up. It's good.

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Speaker 1: Damn you made me want to try this French toast because.

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Speaker 2: I feel like out of the tree. The breakfast trio

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Speaker 2: and waffles, pancakes, and French toes frenchs number one. French toes,

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Speaker 2: if it's made at the highest level, is number one.

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Speaker 2: Now why I say that because most restaurants fumble the

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Speaker 1: I think most restaurants can't cook breakfast period though. I

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Speaker 1: think the only place I honestly like if someone were like, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's meet for breakfast, the only place I'm choosing this

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Speaker 1: Blue Jam Cafe. And that's it.

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Speaker 2: They got a good uh, they got the little they

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Speaker 2: got like a good vegan scrambling.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, I like I like their little potatoes, but

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Speaker 1: everywhere else absolutely not. I'll just cook breakfast in my house.

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Speaker 1: But now take me back to what was going on

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Speaker 1: during this cream corn sandwich air.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we in college. I went to New Mexican

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Speaker 2: State in ninety eight, nineteen ninety eight, and I know

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Speaker 2: some people watching him be like, ninety eight, man, did

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Speaker 2: they have cars? Then? That's crazy? Was that prohibition al capone?

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Speaker 2: you know, we getting financial aid. We out here scrambling,

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Speaker 2: Department of Black Programs. So you know, times was hard,

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Speaker 2: I had the cream course sandwich. So I was illegally

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Speaker 2: staying with my with my homeboys, Andre and Jamal, they

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Speaker 2: had that they were living on on campus. They had

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Speaker 2: the four bedrooms. I wasn't supposed to be in there.

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Speaker 2: We like, we like broke into one of the rooms

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Speaker 2: pretty much, and I was staying in one of the rooms.

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Speaker 1: Broke into one of the rooms. Yea, it was.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't supposed to be there, got it, got it.

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Speaker 2: I was staying in there, so I was illegal. Technically

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Speaker 2: I was homeless, but not really.

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Speaker 1: So it was it was now it's coming full circle. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're getting in there.

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Speaker 2: Technically Visita del Monte was the name of him. And

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Speaker 2: I think I got in academic trouble or whatever and

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Speaker 2: I couldn't stay there anymore. So it was like, well

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Speaker 2: the door is open, don't you just you know, crash

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Speaker 2: with us. So we in there. And one night, I

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Speaker 2: mean it was it was cream corn in the crib.

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Speaker 2: It was bread. It was toast heck playing dream.

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Speaker 1: And all y'all went in on this bread in this.

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Speaker 2: Corner I feel like it was just me this night.

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Speaker 1: Okay to Jack.

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Speaker 2: Everybody was because.

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Speaker 1: This jagging the box around back. Okay, okay, okay, listen, okay, okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know I'm an eighties baby. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't. We don't have that. I don't think so yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I think that's an l A thing or any city,

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Speaker 1: any city, but New York thing.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know, when you're not from here,

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Speaker 1: And so you were going to reading maps too, hungh?

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Speaker 2: Because when I had the I had the atlas, remember

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Speaker 1: But you know how, because when I first moved here,

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Speaker 1: But so you move here, your is your wife now

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Speaker 2: Why one thousand? Now?

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Speaker 1: How did that make you feel?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Man? So I was the house husband at this time.

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Speaker 2: So I'm handling the board, I'm cooking, I'm doing all this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: up on the acting thing and I was like fun,

439
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: but I was still just like.

440
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: Of course because I'm not right. Oh father, Now you

441
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

442
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 2: I can't be new. I should have figured all this out.

443
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: So I'm in my head a lot. So so yeah,

444
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: so that gets in your head. It's like, man, you

445
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I don't want this to

446
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 2: be even though I know you gotta work hard at it,

447
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: but it's just like I got a family though, you know,

448
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 2: and so.

449
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: So where you're like juggling like whether you're making the

450
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: right decisions too or And then it.

451
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 2: Was like and then when you when you get out here,

452
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: it's daunting, like you have the fantasy in your head

453
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna get out the greyhound, the director's gonna

454
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:59,239
Speaker 2: see me. I want you my new picture. Yeah, and

455
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 2: so but that's not the that's not the reality. So

456
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 2: the reality is you're doing extra work. You're sitting in

457
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: traffic driving you on set doing extra work for scraps

458
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: for long hours. And yeah, that's the reality. And so

459
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: it's like I'm just like, oh man, this sucks. This

460
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: is not this is not what I thought it was

461
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: gonna be.

462
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: And so how's your wife at the time dealing with

463
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: did you kind of going through the motions in her

464
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: being the primary did she handle it? Okay?

465
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 2: She did, Like in hindsight, she she handled it like

466
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: a g because she was you know what I'm saying,

467
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: because she was working because on her end, she was

468
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: doing what she always sought out to do.

469
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: So she was happy. She had like good home and

470
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: then she had her career.

471
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, she being a nurse, she's trying different things

472
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: within that and was always able to find work because

473
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: we lived in Orange that first year and then we

474
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 2: moved to Burbank. Was a much better location because.

475
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: Well, especially for your career. Yeah, that's exactly.

476
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: So it's like Burbank felt like a small town right

477
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: next to La so I can just go over the

478
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: hill and go to an audition or whatever and it

479
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 2: was just like you come back, it was safe, were good.

480
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like perfect.

481
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: The only thing it was a little too non black.

482
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: But other than that, I'm like, something smells like it's burning.

483
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what this is an extra smoky right,

484
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: and this is what I'm talking about with the electric stove.

485
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: It's always some bullshit.

486
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: Like something's burning. I smell it.

487
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, what changed?

488
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: What changed? Is it your toast?

489
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 2: It can't be the toast? Is it? I just dropped

490
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: these that's extra smoky?

491
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: That look. Okay, we're gonna pray that Tony doesn't burn

492
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: down the set. So so in two thousand and eight,

493
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: now is this in two thousand and eight when you

494
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: moved to Burbank or when did when.

495
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: The Burbank two thousand and seven?

496
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so then at six to seven was orange and

497
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: so you were doing acting auditions, and then it was

498
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: once you moved to Burbank, you try out, you start

499
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: doing common stand up.

500
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: I started doing stand up in two thousand and eight.

501
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: Now what was that first experience like and what made

502
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 1: you actually say, Okay, I'm gonna go for stand up.

503
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: So what happened was we gotta we gotta go back

504
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: to New Mexico State again. Okay, So I was very

505
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: much involved in.

506
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it smells official. Yeah, I think you

507
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: don't like this.

508
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: You said, what you don't like this? I mean I might.

509
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: I am hungry. I haven't eaten today, so.

510
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: I ate because I knew what we were gonna eat. Yeah,

511
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: because I just was like, man, I don't know. I

512
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: thought you were pranking me for a second.

513
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: Little faith. Now we can do this two ways.

514
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: You can either I'm gonna do it the way you

515
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: did it. I think I'm gonna pour it on here.

516
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: Pour it on the bread and fold its folded. Or

517
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: you could just make it a real sandwich.

518
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: Okay.

519
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: The reason I did the fold is because it's wet.

520
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's cream corn. So having a

521
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: sloppy sandwich like that. That's not a sloppy Joe just

522
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: didn't make a lot of sense. I'd rather do the fold.

523
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: This is crazy, but what happened in New Mexico. Go

524
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: take us back to New Mexico.

525
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: So let me get back up in here.

526
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm excited to try this too.

527
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 2: Don't be too excited. Man, Lord you expectators.

528
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, So just so you know, I broke my

529
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: little bread in half. I'm putting my like this right, yeah.

530
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 2: I just I can't believe this I did. Man.

531
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: I literally was like, oh, he's breaking us.

532
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that to you. All right, here we go.

533
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

534
00:27:51,000 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: Will it tastes like bread and cream corn? That's all

535
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: we live?

536
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: I would eat the preme corn playing man.

537
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 2: The bread is just to add some extra half.

538
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bread and cream corn isn't isn't hidden, but

539
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: try it.

540
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: Try it.

541
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: Bite of that prem corn straight. Let me tell you something,

542
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: it's remarkably great. You don't you will go home and

543
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: get some cream corn after this.

544
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: It's like old time.

545
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: Tell me it ain't great.

546
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: That's a good time. Cream corn is good corn? Man?

547
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: Why did we give up on cream corn? I believe

548
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 1: how great it is.

549
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: I don't know why we gave up on cream corn.

550
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: We turn our backs. Hold on, we turned my clock.

551
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: I'll be intermitting faster, inter minute.

552
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: What does that mean? You don't eat till three o'clock?

553
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually, like sometimes even later. Hold on coolining, So

554
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm breaking my fast on this show. Yo.

555
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: You know what. We appreciate you. But I gotta say this.

556
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why I give up preme corn. It

557
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: is simply amazing. I'm having some I have extra hands.

558
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: Tell me right, cream corn, it's vegan. What are you

559
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: gonna do?

560
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: It ain't crazy.

561
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: By the way, for all y'all listeners, Tony is in

562
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: remarkable shape. Remarkable shape. I was like trying to pick

563
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: the aprons. And you know, I try to stay away

564
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: from white because I'm a sizeable person. But you're in

565
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: such great shape. I was like, he can handle white.

566
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to hide. But no, cream corn is Honestly,

567
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: I would I would ditch the bread, but the cream

568
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: corn cream cool. That is amazing cream corn. No, I

569
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: don't think so I have I have a terrible memory,

570
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: though I've probably seen it, don't remember. I'm gonna eat

571
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: all this.

572
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: Cream corn anyway. So while I'm in New Mexico State,

573
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm just creative. You know, I'm a performer, naturally,

574
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: I guess. And so I'm hosting whatever the Department of

575
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: Black Programs was doing I was involved in. So like,

576
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: if we had an MC battle, I would be the host.

577
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: If we having a pageant, I was hosting that. It

578
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: was just I was always like I wanted to get

579
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: my creative juices out.

580
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: So I'm just doing all that, and you were obviously

581
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: good at it to keep letting me be do it.

582
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was just like, and I was naturally funny.

583
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't even trying to be funny. I didn't even

584
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: become aware of my humor and being funny until so

585
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: I was doing all that hosting because growing up I

586
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: was funny, but my older brothers never laughed. So it's

587
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: like I'm at the crib when.

588
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm cracking their.

589
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: Jokes, they're giving me nothing give you. I'm the youngest,

590
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: so it was just like, look at me, the kid.

591
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Man, I'm trying to get it.

592
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get my little jokes. I go to

593
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: bed and so so I'm in school thinking I'm not funny.

594
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm cracking up my classmates. They laughing, but it's still

595
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: just like I ain't funny at home. So I'm just like,

596
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're laughing at it. So in

597
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: my mind I'm not even registering the effect. And so

598
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: then when I started liking girls, girls think I'm funny.

599
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: But at that time, I don't want to be funny.

600
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: I want to be the heart throb. I want you

601
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: to be like you know what I'm saying, because we

602
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: didn't put heart throb and humor together. Were d Yeah,

603
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: you were cool and sexy. You were that guy, you

604
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean, you divante from jobsy or whatever.

605
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. So it's like, you're funny,

606
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, i ain't trying to be funny.

607
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying to give you the squinty eyes and my

608
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: shirt is off but it's on, and so never register

609
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: in the comedy. So I'm just like whatever, So I'm

610
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: always funny. So fast forward back to college, I'm still funny,

611
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: not even trying to be funny. It's just funny. And

612
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: so I was at a concert in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

613
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: It was common common was on the Electric Electric Circus tour.

614
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: So me and my brother at that concert, this girl

615
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: comes out of nowhere like you're hilarious, and I'm like,

616
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: you know me, She's like, yeah, you hosted that MC

617
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: battle at New Mexico State. You are hilarious. And that's

618
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: what it registered like, Man, I'm must be really funny

619
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: because this girl came out of nowhere with this, and

620
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: so I was just like, it just echoed. It always echoed,

621
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: and I was just like, I'm funny. That's crazy. And

622
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: then you start thinking it's like the end of the

623
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: usual Suspects. I'm piecing it.

624
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: All together, like, Yo, why did it take till two

625
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: thousand and seven or two thousand and eight for you

626
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: to actually act on the common side Now?

627
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: So it's like, all right, I want to act. Though

628
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: that was always the focused like, even though I grew

629
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: up watching stand up, I never liked was like I

630
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: want to do that. I want to act, and so

631
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: I was just like and then I got to thinking

632
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: about all the comedians that became actors. I was like,

633
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: that's a nice transition acting. Thinking about Robin Williams was

634
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: the main in print for that, because he was doing

635
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: dramatic and comedic, and he was a stand up commershore

636
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: like Robin Williams is the template, and so I was

637
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: just like, maybe I can get noticed doing stand up.

638
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: That's why. That's what gave me the drive to try

639
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: to stand up?

640
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 4: Okay, And then then when I did it, I was like,

641
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: this is it, this is what I was supposed to

642
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: be doing.

643
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: Wow, the whole time was supposed to be stand up.

644
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: And so I was like, and so once I did

645
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: that first open mic, that went well. Then five minutes

646
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: at the Ha Ha in North Hollywood, it went well.

647
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: I went every day. I was going back every day.

648
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: It was NonStop.

649
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: I was just like, now, when did you start elevating

650
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: to work in other clubs? Did they just start reaching

651
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: out or you start making relationships?

652
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: So in LA there's open mics all over the city.

653
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: So we're just doing the open mic circuit. We're doing

654
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: We're going to the comedy comedy store signing up for

655
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: their open mic. We're doing the improv, We're doing the

656
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: Laugh Factory, We're doing all these spots, We're doing these

657
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 2: coffee houses. Were doing every every piece of comedy stage

658
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 2: we can get our hands on. We were doing that.

659
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: So that's how you start getting into these other clubs

660
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: and so and people see you like, hey, man, do

661
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: my show, and I'm doing Bringer shows, I'm doing all

662
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: kinds of comedy competitions. I was just doing everything.

663
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: And now LA is a tough market when it comes

664
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: to comedy because everything that I've understood LA comedy to

665
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: be is like the clubs out here don't really pay

666
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: that well or pretty terrible compared to New York.

667
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they like those open mics. I was doing that.

668
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: I started doing. I paid for that stay. I remember.

669
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: I remember knowing that like LA usually pay, beginning to

670
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: pay every time, it could be a coffee shop, wherever

671
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: you get paying up perform. And then at what point

672
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: during this whole career do you start to see uh,

673
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: like a hope towards money, money land prom money, promised land,

674
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: because I'm sure it was like a long road. And

675
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: at this point, you know this is what two thousand

676
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: and eight, you're like, Okay, I'm in now, you found

677
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: you found your niche. How long for that niche until

678
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: you start like actually getting a check that's like, hey, honey,

679
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: look what I brought home.

680
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: It was the first time I was like where I

681
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: got like substantial three figures.

682
00:35:52,520 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: Okay, three.

683
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: We did a road gig because I had you remember

684
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: it though, absolutely, this is the first road gig I did.

685
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: It was ridiculous when I think about it now, how

686
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 2: much I get paid for the amount of drive.

687
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's still exciting now.

688
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: So my wife's cousin, my ex wife's cousin, he was

689
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: doing stand up. So he was the one that took

690
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: me to the High High to go up. His name

691
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: was to Sean Barrett, and so he was like, yo,

692
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: we got a gig in New Mexico, you know, And

693
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: it was like so they pretty much I drove my

694
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: car out. There was me and him and two other comedians.

695
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: So we drove all the way out to New Mexico.

696
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: This is like eleven hour drive and to do this

697
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 2: winery or whatever. And so we get out there. I

698
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: think I ended up just getting three hundred That was

699
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: my cut. I don't know, you know what else everybody

700
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: else made.

701
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: And I was just like, this is that's kind of

702
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: cool though, right right? And how long was it set?

703
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: So I ended up doing like twenty five minutes okay,

704
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: And this this is early on, like I was like, man,

705
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: I had that much material. It was just like and

706
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: then I ended up staying with like some friends of

707
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: mine or whatever, while the rest of the comedians was

708
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 2: at the hotel or whatever or the dorms wherever they

709
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: put us up at. Now I get people out here,

710
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: I'll be over here. And so I was just like,

711
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: man with three hundred, even though you know, I drove

712
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: my car, it was justus.

713
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: That's still exciting to know that, like you got to

714
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: do something you love compared to the hourly rate of anything.

715
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: If you think about it, it's like an incredible feat.

716
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: I mean, at least that.

717
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: Was the most tamony money I had seen at that time.

718
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: So then you go home, you brag, and you're like,

719
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Now you're like, I gotta get more.

720
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. It was like, okay, there is something to this.

721
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: The road is where the money is, so now I

722
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: have to get to the point where I can work

723
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: on the road. And so but I was just always

724
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: just trying to get better, putting my hands and everything

725
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: I can get my hands on, winning some comedy competitions

726
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: which brought money and bookings, and so it was just

727
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: like it was that it was that process of just like,

728
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: you know, doing everything, not turning away from stuff and

729
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: just growing, getting my name out there and meeting other comedians.

730
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: And at this point, you're still doing the house husbands

731
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: during the day.

732
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: During the day, I'm getting up in the morning, bags

733
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: under vines, getting the boys ready.

734
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: For school, or making like you don't understand what I'm

735
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: going through right.

736
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So here here's here's the moment where it was

737
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: just like it was a dust up because I was

738
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: still playing video games too. So yeah, she came off

739
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 2: from work one time and I was on call of duty.

740
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: She was just like nah. I was like, she's I

741
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: can tell she was just like, nah, you over here.

742
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: I'm over here working and you over here and gaming

743
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: it up. I know what that looked like. And so

744
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: you know, at.

745
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: This point, the kids are at school.

746
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: I'm guessing they was in school, like she had got

747
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: off early or whatever. I felt like I got caught.

748
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 2: I rather had got caught with my dick and somebody else.

749
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: You feel what you feel like.

750
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 2: I felt like, oh you what you're doing home? I'm

751
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: on I'm on call of duty. You know. I was

752
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: just like, oh man, I felt like cold busted.

753
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: So that's hilarious.

754
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: And then but then there was a moment like later

755
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: on it was just like I kind of I kind

756
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: of went off a little bit because it was like

757
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: I do do a lot, you know, so I was

758
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: just like, you don't know what it's like to hit

759
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: it with you know what it's like, No know what

760
00:39:54,440 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: it's like. I'm getting these boys together, I'm doing this

761
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: and that It was just like while also feeling like

762
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: less of a man because she's the bread winner.

763
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I love to hear that you you

764
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but I love to hear

765
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: that you had to experience that side.

766
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was the wife that was getting overlooked for

767
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: my contribution. And then I got a job after that.

768
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: After that moment, I was like, let.

769
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: Me get a job like a day job so you

770
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: can still do the night still.

771
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: I had to find a job where it was flexible

772
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: enough to where I could still pursue acting comedy still

773
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 2: hold the kids down. So I was able to find

774
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: something through my friend Sean Jones. It was like an

775
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: inventory where we counted inventory at different stores. You can

776
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: pretty much set your own schedule. So because of that moment,

777
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: I was like, let me get a job. So I

778
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 2: was still holding the boys down.

779
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: So now now you're at least you're you're like, hey,

780
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm you was you was really doing new thing, Okay.

781
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that I was trying to traumatizing.

782
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: I was trying to I was trying to do the

783
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: best that I could while still staying focused on the

784
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 2: reason why.

785
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: I can find the balance. I like that you did that.

786
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah that's cool because it was like, man, you know

787
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: it was And I didn't hold that against her because

788
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: I know what that looked like. You know what I'm saying,

789
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: I'm not here working and you're playing call of duty.

790
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: I was just like, you know, so I was like,

791
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: all right, I just had that. I just had to

792
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: have that little blowout real quick. But then I was like,

793
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: you know what, she right, let me let me contribute

794
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 2: money as well. Yeah, and so that's why I got

795
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: that job.

796
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: Problem. So yeah, when does it trickling where you have

797
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: where you get to the point where you're like by

798
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: inventory job, Well.

799
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: I quit that job pretty quickly because it was like

800
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: I was doing because all I'm thinking about while I'm

801
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: doing that gig, because this is at night, because this

802
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: is after the stores closed, I'm just thinking about.

803
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was allowing you to do comedy and

804
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: take care of the.

805
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: No, it was it was it was a night gig.

806
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: Oh, so you were allowed you could make money, but

807
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: you could take care of the boys, but you couldn't

808
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: do comedy.

809
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: Right. It was just like, this ain't gonna work because

810
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: I was like, because it had to be when the

811
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: stores were, you know, down. So I was just like,

812
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking about comedy the whole time. Yeah, taking

813
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: the inventory, I'm thinking about material. And so it was

814
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: just like, so I was, you know, scheduling myself so

815
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: I can still do comedy several days a week and work.

816
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: And then I was like, once I started getting more

817
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: and more gigs, I was, I just quit sending in

818
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: my schedule.

819
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: Okay, So you were starting to get enough to like

820
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: phase out the inventory. Yeah, and without your wife being.

821
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: Like yeah, because you know, because she's all the work

822
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: that was being put in.

823
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and well she I'm sure she saw the effort too, like, hey,

824
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: he's trying.

825
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 2: He listened, he tried.

826
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: I think women they wanted to see effort. You heard me,

827
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: you heard me. It penetrated, right, I'm.

828
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 2: Definitely penetrated for sure.

829
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: So at what point in your career are you like,

830
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent on this craft. Is it like

831
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: your first acting gig or is it like your first

832
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: what's that first big pivotal moment where you're like, I

833
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: got this like one hundred percent, never looking back with

834
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: a check attached, because I think until you fully get

835
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: a check that can sustain yourself, it's still a little

836
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: bit of still am I doing the right thing? It's

837
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: still still oh still.

838
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: Like that kind of sort of not necessarily, but comedy

839
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: as much as acting per still because you know I'm

840
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: not I'm not an established actor like that. Yeah, still

841
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: to this day. So it's like, but comedy is like,

842
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: here's what I loved about comedy more so than acting,

843
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: where I felt like, Okay, I can keep this going.

844
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: Of course, social media has changed the game tremendously.

845
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: And you dominated it pretty well.

846
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: It's it's allowed me to for a lot of people

847
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: to see me everywhere, and so now if I come

848
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: to your city's it's Tony, you know, even if even

849
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: if you know me for the voice, so you still

850
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: be like, let's go see him live, Let's see what

851
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: he's he's like. Live and so it's like, ah, And

852
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: the reason I focused so hard on stand up over

853
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: acting was because I was more in control of my

854
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: own destiny with the stand up. You know, with acting,

855
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 2: you're at the mercy of casting, director, producer, director, script whatever.

856
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 2: There's so many things that are out of your control

857
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 2: when you're just an actor. You don't have the right look,

858
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: you didn't look right on camera with this other person, whatever,

859
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: whether you book it, whether you don't book it, it's

860
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: so much out of your control. It's just like I

861
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: can't live like that. But stand up, I control the

862
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: table more. It's like I can book my own gigs.

863
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: I can sign up for this, I can do this,

864
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: I can I can do my own show and just

865
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: promote it myself. And there's so many avenues that I

866
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: have so much more.

867
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: Now.

868
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: I feel like a business owner. Now, I feel like

869
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: I'm for real because it's like I'm putting all the

870
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: work in and I'm seeing the results of the work

871
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: I'm putting in, and then when I do perform, I'm

872
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: getting the feedback from the from the customer base directly.

873
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: So it's just like, oh, I had a great time.

874
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: It's like and I was able to control that myself.

875
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: And so that's what made me be like, all right,

876
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: stand up is the.

877
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: Is the move now when you look at the way

878
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: things have changed, because now we're in a whole different era.

879
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: Like I always tell my dad, like he'll talk to

880
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: me about a show, and I'm like, Dad, it was

881
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: the last time you really went home and watched TV? Yeah, Like,

882
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I barely know how to work my TV

883
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: at this point. I know there's a Netflix button, Yeah

884
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: there's Amazon. But you know what I'm saying, Like I

885
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: push whatever button or like slide to the icon. But

886
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: the last time I actually flipped through a television, I

887
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: can't tell you. And I heard not gonna say the

888
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: name drop the person. But I was just telling Jerry

889
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: back there that like Amazon is now paying for content

890
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: way more than even networks are. Right, So now when

891
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: you see the ship, do you still feel like acting?

892
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: Like you can't control acting the way you controlled comedy still.

893
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: Because it's like unless I was like a writer, director

894
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: or something like that, it would be a different conversation.

895
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: But since I'm just like purely just on the acting

896
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: side of it right now, it's like I still got

897
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 2: auditions still, gotta unless they come to me with like, yo,

898
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: we want you in this. That's that's the dream, that's

899
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: the ideal situation. I have books stuff like that. But

900
00:46:52,600 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: like and now too, it's we're so oversaturated with content

901
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: and different platforms and where you can see anything. It

902
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: becomes like because you got Netflix, you got Amazon, and

903
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 2: now you.

904
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: Have all these other people that are like I want

905
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: to create my own.

906
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: Exactly, and so it's just like, so it's people are

907
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: oversaturated with like choices options, so it's a lot of

908
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: content out there, and so it's just like we got

909
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: streaming platforms and you know, movie theaters are struggling, and

910
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: so it's just like and I'm just sitting there like, well,

911
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 2: regardless of what happens, as long as it is there's

912
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: not another pandemic, there's no substitute for live entertainment ever. Yeah,

913
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: you gotta take your girl out. Yes, you gotta take

914
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 2: your girl out. Y'all can't be watching Netflix all the time.

915
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: Let's go Somewhere's go somewhere, Let's go somewhere. I want

916
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 2: to be out, I want to be cute, I want

917
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: to be somewhere exactly. And so live entertainment does that,

918
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: so it's like and stand up is live.

919
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: So it's like, so what would you say, like, we're

920
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: the hardest things to digest as a comedian as far

921
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: as as all the way up to this date, like

922
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: what are some of the hardest things to like digest

923
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: as a comic?

924
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: The hardest thing is just like the struggle. It's like,

925
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: you know, you go through so much comedy, years and

926
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: years of just like just getting by. Yeah, you know

927
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: what I mean. But even then, like I got divorced

928
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, so I was living off of stand

929
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: up and whatever I booked on the sketch side or whatever,

930
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 2: and so that's when I started working with all death

931
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and I was like, whoa, it

932
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: was like every month, I was like, thank you laugh

933
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: actory I'm just but I'm living off the craft. But

934
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: it was just like.

935
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: Like you like, you're surviving every month? Yes, yeah, okay, okay,

936
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: I know what that's like. I'm familiar with that doing

937
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: that today.

938
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: Surviving month. Let's go care me. I won this competition.

939
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: Who needed that?

940
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: And you're and you're also I'm guessing you're amazing with

941
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: money at this point. Oh yeah, like you know how

942
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: to live on a budget. You know how your cash

943
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: flow works.

944
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: Budget. Oh, I love that. I was just like h

945
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: and I had a roommate, so that that's taking some

946
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: of the edge off. And so I'm just like bare minimum,

947
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: getting the boys what they need, saving as much as possible,

948
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: paying the rent, paying the utilities, Uh, anything wrong with

949
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: the car, just like you know, I've just been good

950
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: with money.

951
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: Good, you know. And so now that's something you had

952
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: to learn during this whole pursuit or did were you

953
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: like that before?

954
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: I think I started learning it once. I was in college,

955
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: those college days and we was dead broke. We was

956
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 2: dead broke.

957
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: I think like, yeah, I could tell because you was

958
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: eing bread with this cream of corn.

959
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: Tell you something I learned it squandering the financial aid money.

960
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay okay.

961
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, I squandered all that money

962
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: on clothes or whatever. And so now I'm just like,

963
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm looking like a jackass now because I'm in the

964
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: super struggle and they don't have to pay this money

965
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: back because I got loans, and so it was just like, oh,

966
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: so those those were the lessons my dad always told us, Yo,

967
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: save your money, save your money, man. Watch out man,

968
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: watch out, you know, and so he instilled in us

969
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: early like save your money. We was like all right, sure,

970
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: but then it was like he was right and so

971
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: all of that and I'm still that way, like you know,

972
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: like this year, well, twenty twenty four, that's the most

973
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: money I ever spent in like a year, because it

974
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: was just like I was just sitting on money, all

975
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: the money I had accumulated over all this time. It

976
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: was just like, okay, I need to buy a house.

977
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been seeing your stories. You got a nice house.

978
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: You're renovating it and building it.

979
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: And finally bought a house and it was like and

980
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: this was after like you know, I paid my mom's

981
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: house all off, and then I was just like I

982
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: still didn't have a house myself, but I was I

983
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: was perfectly happy with doing that for I'm like, man,

984
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: life is yeah, I could check out right now and

985
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: I'm good. But it was like and then my my

986
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 2: ex girlfriend she was just like, well, think about like

987
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: you know, something you want to leave behind for sincere

988
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: and so.

989
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, you right, generational wealth, that's

990
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: what it was.

991
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: And so it was just like all right, I got

992
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: to make a move because I was scared to buy

993
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: a house because it just looked like a lot CALLI

994
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: price is a ridiculous crazy I was.

995
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: Just like the first time I bought a house. As

996
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, you have imposter syndrome. You're like, are they

997
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: really gonna believe that I'm going to survive? And buying

998
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: a house, I think is the ultimate test because a

999
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: bank has to believe you're not going to go broken. Yeah,

1000
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: And so I want to know, like, how did it

1001
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: feel to know that the bank was like you're approved?

1002
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: And did you feel like, yo, I like I'm official

1003
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: or did you just know I mean the whole time

1004
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: or did you have a little bit of imposter syndrome

1005
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: throughout the whole thing and then you get that final

1006
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: stamp of For me, at least, it was like, yo,

1007
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm a legit, right, I'm legit. They said yes to

1008
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: the craziest to the craziest gammel of life because they

1009
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: are rigorous. They're like, why did you move this money

1010
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: to this money in this account to discount discount? Why

1011
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: did you do this and this and this?

1012
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: There? Maybe in there ye ask too many questions. I

1013
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: was legit. Yeah, it's legit trust me. Now, I wann't

1014
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: trust nobody.

1015
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: After getting on my first after getting my house, I

1016
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: just remember going, I am never gonna move my money

1017
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: around the accounts the way, even though I do now

1018
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: come struggle a little bit, but usually if I'm good,

1019
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: I keep them very separated. Because my first house experience,

1020
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: they questioned every transaction. They're like, why did you move

1021
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: this from this account? This is discount where this money

1022
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: come from?

1023
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: And this is right, the money's there, isn't it.

1024
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: You think I'm gonna remember two thousand and I get

1025
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: but it felt good, didn't feel legit, like tell me

1026
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: about so.

1027
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: So I thought about getting the house in twenty twenty

1028
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: one and it was like that's that's when I put

1029
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: my toes in the water, like let me see what

1030
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: this is like, you know what I'm saying. Because I

1031
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: knew I needed it was like because I was living under.

1032
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: My means for so yeah, yeah, I like that.

1033
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: I was scared. I was in that same two bedroom apartment. Yeah,

1034
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: dirty carpet. It was just like but then I was like,

1035
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: all right, I want my boys to live with me,

1036
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: so I need more space. So I was just like,

1037
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: all right, I need to find the biggest space I

1038
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 2: was gonna rent. The biggest spot with the burdbank prices

1039
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: was they was crazy, and so I was like, man,

1040
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: let me look out in Santa Clarita or whatever. And

1041
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: then I was like, you know I should buy a house.

1042
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeap, you should, especially at the rents.

1043
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: So so they gave me. They gave me a quote

1044
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: the pre approval, and I was just like, I was

1045
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: looking that the pre approval they they you know, approved

1046
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: me for compared to what the houses were going for

1047
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: in sam Cared, and I was like, I didn't really

1048
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: like that. I was just like, damn, that's not enough.

1049
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 2: And so I was just like because I didn't, I

1050
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: didn't want to settle for of course. So then I

1051
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: was like, all right, I'll just rent and I was

1052
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: just going back then. It was horse.

1053
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: I knew you back then, because I would have told

1054
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: you settle, man, settle, settle. I would I would have

1055
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: instantly told you to settle. I tell all my girlfriends

1056
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: that this is first, it's your first. Just settle. You're

1057
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: just looking at equity. I was just like, I can't

1058
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: believe you did it. So you waited till twenty twenty

1059
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: four in the high interest rate.

1060
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 2: So now the interest rate now.

1061
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: Is just like and the prices it was disgusting.

1062
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: But what the approved I saw. I saw the jump

1063
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: in preapproval.

1064
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's good though, and you were working towards something.

1065
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a big difference is what I was pre

1066
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 2: approved for in twenty twenty, twenty twenty.

1067
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: Also at that time it was probably really high.

1068
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, I was just like, now I can work

1069
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: with this, and so I went in way under.

1070
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: Yeah I approved me for of course, I'm glad to

1071
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: hear that too. Financial literacy do I'm.

1072
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: Not pushing it to the limit and so so yeah,

1073
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: so that felt good. I was scared shitless though, Like

1074
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 2: I got cool feed several times throughout the process. Even

1075
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: after I bought it, I was still just like, that

1076
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: was me. I make the right choice.

1077
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you realize that. I always like to tell people.

1078
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: I bought my house with two hundred and sixty thousand

1079
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: dollars ten years ago in Cali. In Cali it's a townhouse,

1080
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: but still still and I begged all my girlfriends to

1081
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: buy homes at that time. You know, I was with

1082
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: the low interest rate I had. My interest is four

1083
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: and a quarter. And I also did as an entrepreneur.

1084
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 1: You know the game you you like to hide money

1085
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: in the tax error, so that bites you. You know,

1086
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: it's twofold, know you you don't report as much, you

1087
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: get lower approval. So at the time, I was very fortunate.

1088
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: So thank god I got approved for that because let

1089
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: me tell you, my life has been nothing but like

1090
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: it's all roller coaster, high risk or whatever. So what

1091
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: I did was because the house payments are so low,

1092
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: every Christmas, I will Christmas present the principal. Yes, so

1093
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: I always do like a twenty thousand dollars a year

1094
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: principal payment on December. Every December, Yeah, my house would

1095
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: be paid off like next year. That's crazy. And all

1096
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: my friends, you know what, they tell me, you're an idiot.

1097
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: Why did you do that? Why would you do that?

1098
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, well, guess what we're gonna airb

1099
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: and be this bitch like next year.

1100
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 2: Let me ask you that. Let me ask you this

1101
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 2: on on this principal day. Do you have to specifically.

1102
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: Mark principle only on the actual check? Oh see you cannot, yeah,

1103
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: because I made that mistake. So they have so many

1104
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: different loan programs out there. For everybody that's ever interested

1105
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: in buying home I always advise you, like there's nonprofits

1106
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: in LA that will do like it's like seventy five

1107
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: bucks and they teach you a whole course on home buying.

1108
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: I think I paid for it. It was worth every

1109
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: penny A lot of times if you graduate, they give

1110
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: you like a if you complete the course, so it'll

1111
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: could be like some kind of down payment assistance. So

1112
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: I did that. When I bought mine, this was like

1113
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: ten years ago. I begged all my girlfriends. Of course,

1114
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, I was like thirty, so you know, girls

1115
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: are still young. They were like, girl, you whatever, you

1116
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: wait till you get married. I was like, just in case,

1117
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: just in case. But no, there's so many programs out there.

1118
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 1: But I one of my homies, like two years after

1119
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: one of my ex boyfriends, two years after I bought

1120
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: the house, was like, you're an idiot, Like you know

1121
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay all this interest, Like look at how

1122
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: much you're gonna pay for the house right later, And

1123
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: I told you, I'm like half Jewish, So I I

1124
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: looked at it and then I said, I realized that

1125
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: I would be paying like by the time I was done,

1126
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna be paying like four hundred or five

1127
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: hundred thousand for the house.

1128
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1129
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: So when I realized that they had this like mortgage

1130
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: payment calculator you can google, So I googled it and

1131
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: I just put in, like how much would I have

1132
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: to pay to pay it off by the time I'm forty, right,

1133
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: And it was like twenty k a year? Okay, So

1134
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, at the end of every year,

1135
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: I'll just add an extra twenty k. But also if

1136
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: you do just an extra house payment, it cuts it

1137
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: down like ten years. Okay, but I just I do

1138
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: that method, I'm just like fuck it. And then but

1139
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: you got to remember the best part of owning a

1140
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: house is that you get to write off the interests.

1141
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: So once you get to the principal point, so like,

1142
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: your tax are gonna be great this year and for

1143
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: the next couple of years, I'm at the point where

1144
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: there's no more interest left. Really principle, like I make

1145
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: a payment, it's like ninety percent is.

1146
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 3: Going to principles fly, but you have But the catch

1147
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: now is that if you're an entrepreneur on the taxi,

1148
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 3: it's gonna hurt because you know when you're married and

1149
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 3: you own real.

1150
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: Estate, those are like great write offs. The most money

1151
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: I've ever gotten back in my life is like the

1152
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: day I got Oh, I got married. I didn't know

1153
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 1: you could get money back. So I've learned a lot.

1154
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: But I'm excited to hear. I love financial literacy, so

1155
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: it's really nice to hear that you you went through that,

1156
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: and I get to see your home as it progress

1157
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: is online. You're doing a lot of work.

1158
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I might as well make it because I've

1159
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: never had.

1160
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: A six foot person tub.

1161
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: I saw I can fit in there, I can stretch out.

1162
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's tough, you know, finding that first contractor.

1163
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: I did that, Like when I first got my home

1164
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: and I the bill. They said it was going to

1165
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: be like a certain amount, and then it came out

1166
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: a lot bigger, of course, and I had a complete meltdown,

1167
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: com complete meltdown.

1168
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: I'm like whoa.

1169
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: And it was a terrible job.

1170
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 2: So oh wow.

1171
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm stay away from contractors for a

1172
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, but I'm happy to hear this. What

1173
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: are some milestones like in your story that like particularly

1174
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: stood out to you in your career that were like

1175
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: I've officially besides the like big home purchase, Like the.

1176
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: First time I was on that a comic standing on NBC,

1177
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, I'm on TV. That's a comic.

1178
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: That was a big moment. It didn't change my life at.

1179
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: The time, did you think it was?

1180
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: I thought I thought it was gonna be on the

1181
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: road now, baby, but I didn't go far enough into it.

1182
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: And then I did another season of Last Comic saying

1183
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: I was like, man, this this, this is it right

1184
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: but it still wasn't it right there? And so but

1185
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: those were big moments, like when I when I booked

1186
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: that and I did especially that first time on Last Comic,

1187
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: I had a really good set and I thought and

1188
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: then it was like I didn't advance. I was like,

1189
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: that was crushed. So that was a big moment. And

1190
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: then when I went on the road, when I went

1191
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: on tour with Kevin on stage the Real Comedians Tour

1192
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: is Me Kevin to here, that was a great moment

1193
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: because it's like, Yo, we're on the road doing these shows.

1194
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: It was like my first tour. Yeah, I was like, oh,

1195
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: this is fantastic. And we did it again, we went

1196
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: back to back on it. So I was just like

1197
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: those moments. And then when I went back on the

1198
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: road by myself and the tickets were selling, that's when

1199
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: I was.

1200
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: Just like, wow, yeah, that would be a huge moment.

1201
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: That that was the moment I was just like And

1202
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: so all of those little moments right there, it is

1203
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 2: just like, man, I really So now it's like I'm

1204
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 2: just in a good space of and I'm in I'm

1205
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: in the space of you know, And I know people

1206
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: get annoyed when people talk like this, where you're getting

1207
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: a certain financial situation, then you're like, money isn't everything.

1208
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: But money matters.

1209
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: Money does matter, and it for you. But it's like,

1210
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: you know, because I lost my oldest son, and so

1211
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: when I say money doesn't matter, I would give it

1212
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 2: all to get him back. So it's just like I

1213
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: would I would give everything in my account right now

1214
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: to get him back. So it's like, even even with

1215
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 2: the money, you're still heartbroken. So it's like dang. And

1216
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: then so now I'm in a space and me and

1217
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 2: keV on stage laugh about this all the time because

1218
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: he knows how I am. I will walk away from

1219
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: money now that I wouldn't have before for peace of mind,

1220
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: because since you know, since I did lose my son

1221
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: like that, I'm looking for peace above all else. So

1222
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, they're offering this much money, but I

1223
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: know they're knowing to work with.

1224
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: Okay, That's what I was going to ask you. What

1225
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: is like, have you had a real bad example of

1226
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: like a deal gone bad where you're like never again.

1227
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: Well, it's not really like a bad deal. Well, but

1228
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: just like if I know the production will be raggedy

1229
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: in terms of how they run it, what's going on,

1230
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: I'll be like, I'm good if they get on my

1231
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: nerves too much, or if they doing too much stuff

1232
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: short notice or this is that, and the third I'm like,

1233
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: I'm good. But the money, I'm like, nah, it's not

1234
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 2: because if I'm annoyed, it's just like I'd rather not

1235
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: deal with it because I'm always looking for the peace

1236
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: and so and so. Since I'm not a big spender,

1237
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 2: I don't stress about you know, I need the money.

1238
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: Of course I can use the money. I need the money.

1239
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 2: I want to make more money. But it's like if

1240
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: I got a sacrifice my little my little nerves for it,

1241
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: I'm walking away. And so I feel like I'm in

1242
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: a healthy relationship with like.

1243
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: Finances, it sounds like it sounds like you're good at

1244
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: it too.

1245
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like, you know, I won't stress myself

1246
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: out for more money.

1247
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1248
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 2: And so as before, I be like, I'll do anything

1249
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: for the money.

1250
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, when you're coming from this.

1251
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll I'll do whatever for a while.

1252
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: I have a very difficult question. I asked, Okay, with

1253
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: everything that happened with your son, dealing with that whole

1254
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: grief period, how did you like pull through it, especially

1255
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: being a comic.

1256
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: So, so he passed August third, twenty twenty one, and

1257
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: so I ended up going back on the road at

1258
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 2: the end of August to Atlanta. And so because I

1259
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: was like, because of course, you know, my team was

1260
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: just like, hey, you know, if you need to not

1261
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: do nothing, we we understund like, and I was just like,

1262
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to just sit and do nothing. I

1263
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: want to make people laugh. So I got back on

1264
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 2: the road and work finished out the rest of the

1265
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: tour for that year. And making people laugh was beneficial

1266
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 2: for me because I'm getting that good energy, because laughter

1267
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: is just great energy. Giving back making people laugh makes

1268
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 2: me feel fantastic. And so and then to hear about

1269
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: what people are going through themselves, Like, man, I can't

1270
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 2: you A comedy show just made you know what I'm saying.

1271
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: I was having tough, I was in the dark place.

1272
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 2: This is that and the third and so it's like

1273
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: that good energy exchange. It's just like I needed that

1274
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: because if not, I was just gonna sit and just

1275
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: be done.

1276
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

1277
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 2: And so it was like the working help help keep

1278
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: me going through that. And then I was like, but

1279
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: I did realize, yo, I need to sit down and

1280
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: take it. So I took it from like August third

1281
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: through like August twenty third. I was just you know,

1282
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: taking it walking still like I always do, trying to

1283
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: get everything together. Because we had like a little COVID

1284
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: outbreak within the family around that time. It was a

1285
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: mess and so and I was just like all right.

1286
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: So I finished out that tour and in the first

1287
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 2: two months of twenty twenty two, I was like, I'm

1288
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: gonna just sit down and just grieve, you know, because

1289
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: I was never running from the grief. It was just

1290
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: I need to do something to bring me joy within

1291
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: the grief. And so then when I sat down, I

1292
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: was able to take it in. It's all right. And

1293
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: so then I got back to work. And so now

1294
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: and you know, my friend Chantee, she had lost her

1295
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: husband and she was just like the best thing I

1296
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 2: learned is, you know, grief comes in waves. Don't fight

1297
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: the waves, all right. So it's just like the water

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Speaker 2: coming in. You just go with it and wherever it

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Speaker 2: takes you. And so I live like that, Like when

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01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 2: I have a wave, I take it. It's just like,

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Speaker 2: all right, here we go. Like yesterday was his birthday,

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01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 2: January third, so that day is always the hardest of

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01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: the year, and so I was just like, I just

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01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 2: chilled yesterday. I was crying off and on all day

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01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 2: and then just keep going. And then that's what I do.

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01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: And so and I talk about him a lot, like,

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01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: you know, because a lot of times I've been watching

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01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 2: this show called Cross on Amazon Prime and he's dealing

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01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: with grief because his wife got murdered at the top

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: of the show, and the way he's handling the grief

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01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: just pisses me off because he has two children that

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01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,479
Speaker 2: lost their mom as well, but he can't like talk,

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01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 2: he can't talk to them about her or play this.

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01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: And I never wanted to be in a situation where

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01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: I can't talk about my son because it's like, oh,

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01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 2: you know, I'll get too sad or whatever. It's like, no,

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01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,439
Speaker 2: it's just let's talk about him. I'm always down. I'm

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01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 2: down to talk about what happened, how I got through

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01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 2: it anytime.

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Speaker 1: And with your other son, you're able to like go.

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01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: Through that, yeah, because it's like we never want because

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01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: a lot of times when we lose somebody, they kind

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01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 2: of turn into the name that should not be mentioned,

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01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, it's like, don't break up, And I

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01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 2: never want that to be the case because I feel

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01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: like he kind of just pushing your loved one. You're

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01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: tucking it in, you put it in the trunk and

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01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: then there. I feel like the love and the memory

1329
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 2: can't live on fully like that. So it's like I'm

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01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: always down there, Like remember Serainemember. We always doing this,

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01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: so we always like So for Christmas, my son lives

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01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. He graduated and he stayed up there,

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01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 2: and so me, my ex wife and her husband, we

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01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: all went up there to be with him for Christmas

1335
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 2: and so and we'll just be talking like you know,

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01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 2: random memories, you know, we talking about Seraine. We talk

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01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 2: about them, were talking.

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01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,799
Speaker 1: About but it's in like a good spirit.

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01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's like, you know, we want his memory to

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01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 2: live on.

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01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, I like it. I still think

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01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: it's incredibly tough, like from the outside, Oh, for sure

1343
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: it looks you know, but I commend you.

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01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was like, you know, I used to

1345
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: see parents that lost their children, you know, on the

1346
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 2: news or whatever, and they be talking to the news

1347
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,759
Speaker 2: and like, you know, my son was killed this weekend.

1348
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 2: I'll be like, how are you able to form a

1349
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: sentence like I would? I would think that, like, how

1350
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: were you able to? And then happened to us? And

1351
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: so it's like and I'm sitting here forming sentences like

1352
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: in ground zero, I was able to be on the

1353
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: news and be on this and that, and I'm just like,

1354
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 2: how am I able to do this?

1355
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: I literally just told that the other day. I was like,

1356
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: I had a bad dream, terrible dream. I thought I

1357
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: was going to die. Yeah, And I was like, I'll

1358
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: be honest back, like, I think that would be the

1359
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: straw for me. They definitely think that would be the

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01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: day that I like, I'm done, like you know, And

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01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,919
Speaker 1: that's that's what I said from the outside, I'm like, whoa.

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was like I would never because I

1363
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: used to. As parents, we always have that thought like

1364
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: anything ever happened to any of our kid, I can't

1365
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 2: go too. But then it's like when the reality, the

1366
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 2: unfortunate reality, hits you in the mouth, it's like, Okay,

1367
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 2: what if I did shut down now? Now my my

1368
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: other son's sufferers. Now it's like, you know, my loved

1369
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 2: one suffer, I suffer, and who you lost would never

1370
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: want you to shut down because they're gone.

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01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: Do you empathize with even though the guy from the

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01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: Cross Show bothers you, do you? Does a small part

1373
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 1: of you empathize with him?

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01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Because it's like it's hard because you never want

1375
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 2: to tell people how to greet But it's like, you know,

1376
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: when his son was asking him like how come you

1377
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: never talk about mom or whatever? And then he was like, well,

1378
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: his son would ask some questions about Mom and then

1379
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: he'd be like, oh, he started fumbling around or whatever,

1380
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 2: and then his son told him. I was like, well,

1381
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: when she died, it was like I lost both of you,

1382
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 2: and so that's when he was like, oh, Like they

1383
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 2: hit him in that moment because he was running from

1384
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: the conversations before. So it was just frustrating to see

1385
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: him run so much, especially when the kids were like, yeah, Dad,

1386
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And so it was like

1387
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: and so I never wanted to be like that, Like

1388
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 2: I was always aware of just like you gotta be

1389
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 2: there for sincere. You know what I'm saying. And so

1390
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: it's like and not only that, like I know if

1391
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 2: I if I was to pass away, I would never

1392
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 2: want my loved ones to be like, you know what

1393
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And so, and another thing that gets me

1394
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 2: through a lot of this is that I don't have

1395
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 2: regrets as far as my relationship with Serene, because we

1396
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 2: were good. That's good. And so I think that's what

1397
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 2: helped me a lot is because there was no regret.

1398
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: There was no underlying beef, there was none of that. Yeah,

1399
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 2: because if you got regrets, that's a whole nother emotional

1400
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: weight on you. With the grief. It's like, man, I

1401
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 2: should have I wish I would have. I could have

1402
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. That'll tell you in half.

1403
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: And so that we were all good and the last

1404
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 2: words were I love you, I love you too. That's

1405
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 2: what he left here knowing he was loved and we

1406
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 2: were good. So that brings me peace.

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01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I mean to good on that. I thank

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01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: you so much for being on the show. Thank you.

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01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: I didn't get to touch on everything I wanted to

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01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: be with hello over the minutes, but thank you so much.

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01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: How can everyone keep up with you? Can you tell

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01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: us a little bit about the tour directly into that

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01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: camera camera?

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01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called the Replenished Pockets Tour. Like I said before,

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01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of money this past year, good money.

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01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: I wasn't wasting money, but it was a lot of

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01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: money spent. So now I got to replenish the pockets.

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01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: Now I'm back on the road. You can find my

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 2: tour days at Tonybakercomedy dot com. Really keep up with

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01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 2: me on Instagram. That's my main primary area of where

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01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: I promote Tony Baker on Instagram. Don't underscores, no nothing,

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01:12:54,000 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: It's just straight Tony Baker. I'll be doing the Bay Area, Sacramento, Tampa, Miami, Raleigh, Chicago,

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01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 2: New York, Charlotte, d C, Houston. I feel like I'm

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01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: forgetting somebody, but uh, my whole schedule is up I'm

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01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 2: promoted every day, so just stay tuned, man. I would

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01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: love for y'all to come to these live shows. And

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01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 2: at the at the end of the year, me and

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01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 2: keV we're gonna do something with the Ball Brothers. We're

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 2: gonna do a tour for that as well in the

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01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 2: later half of the years. So I'm out here, man.

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01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: He's out here in the streets, So pull up and

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01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: see him live.

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01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 2: Yes, replenish the pocket.

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01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: Replenished the pocket. We want to see the house, and

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01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: you'll give us updates on the house. We can start

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01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: Untie to see the updates. So let's replenish and make

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01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 1: sure this house looks magnificent. To replenish those pockets.

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01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,839
Speaker 2: Tour, Yes, that's the tour.

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01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: Man at Tony Baker. Peace out, y'all. Thanks for tuning

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01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:57,200
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