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Speaker 4: It is time yet again for our returning listener mail program.
Speaker 4: Thought we could shout this out at the very top here, Matt,
Speaker 4: you and Doc and I were talking about this little
Speaker 4: bit off air. Hey I'll see this shirt.
Speaker 3: Yeah I do. Whoa yees killer.
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Speaker 2: Big fans of hell Raiser.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is a hell Raiser theme shirt.
Speaker 3: Me and your shirts are kind of on theme, Ben,
Speaker 3: I'm rocking a Neil Game and Sandman shirt. Morpheus is
Speaker 3: kind of a kinder, gentler pin head in some ways.
Speaker 4: Right, that's not an off base comparison. I appreciate.
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Speaker 2: And we are here with a message from D who
Speaker 2: graced our voicemail lines not that long ago.
Speaker 3: Here is D.
Speaker 5: Hi. Guys, you can call me the I've called a
Speaker 5: few times before. But I was just listening to your
Speaker 5: episode talking about Robert Kennedy and the brain thing, and
Speaker 5: it got me thinking. I read an article yesterday that
Speaker 5: they did some tests on Beethoven's hair and found that
Speaker 5: a lot of his ailments, including potentially his deafness could
Speaker 5: have been caused by extended periods of time of lead poisoning.
Speaker 5: They also found arsenic I think in the hair samples.
Speaker 5: Last week I watched the stand up that Shane Gillis
Speaker 5: put out I think on Netflix show Ever, and he
Speaker 5: was talking about George Washington's teeth and how there was
Speaker 5: probably lead in them as well as unfortunately the teeth
Speaker 5: of enslaved human beings. But uh, this got me thinking
Speaker 5: about the potential of you know, other leaders who we
Speaker 5: revere and we think about who've come to power or
Speaker 5: shown greatness over time in tandem with potential poisonings. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think of like Shanwan Di who was slowly drinking
Speaker 5: mercury because we thought it would, you know, keep him
Speaker 5: alive forever. I think even like Hitler, who was not
Speaker 5: a great man but rose to power. I know he
Speaker 5: was on a concoction of medications and things. So I
Speaker 5: just it got me thinking of that potential and just
Speaker 5: wanted to hear what you guys had to say about
Speaker 5: it and see if you would explore. Have a great day.
Speaker 5: Thank you as always for having these conversations. Look forward to.
Speaker 4: Fantastic question. Also nice references historically love Shane Gillis.
Speaker 2: Too, yes, and he's mentioning George Washington's teeth as potentially
Speaker 2: being from enslaved people. There's some you know, there's there's
Speaker 2: some interesting something you find online about that that kind
Speaker 2: of rebutes that and says it was probably like a
Speaker 2: couple of different animal teeth, right.
Speaker 4: And yeah, they were called straight seahorse, they were called yeah, hippopotamus,
Speaker 4: and it was the from what I understand, it was
Speaker 4: the lower kind of bridge of the teeth that we're
Speaker 4: from enslaved people's uh. And I think the the issue
Speaker 4: was that lead was kind of the bracing or framework
Speaker 4: for some of that.
Speaker 2: Probably not great.
Speaker 4: No, No, there's an entire hypothesis, there's a surprising amount
Speaker 4: of sand to it, arguing that lead exposure can partially
Speaker 4: explain some rises crime over generations.
Speaker 3: Pretty wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it does have cognitive effects, right again, just
Speaker 2: like mercury does. That has had exactly because I swear
Speaker 2: we've had an elongated conversation about this kind of thing
Speaker 2: because I specifically remember mercury poisoning. Maybe it was when
Speaker 2: we were talking about red mercury way back in the day,
Speaker 2: and we like it was a tangent or something.
Speaker 4: Tis Ijuan was mentioned in episode we did on the
Speaker 4: Quest for Immortality or several of those, because he essentially
Speaker 4: ran his version of the known world and the boffins
Speaker 4: that he paid to be on his court, or the
Speaker 4: boffins that were forced to be on his court because
Speaker 4: if they did not agree, they would be tortured and murdered.
Speaker 4: They told him drinking mercury would elongate his life, possibly
Speaker 4: to an indefinite degree. His seed bastards, History would prove
Speaker 4: they were incorrect.
Speaker 3: Well, do you think they knew they were incorrect? Were
Speaker 3: they secretly just trying to poison him because he was
Speaker 3: so awful to them?
Speaker 4: What a cool question? I don't know, wasn't there at
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 2: I don't know a ton about that guy, But just
Speaker 2: if you want to search for him, it is Qi
Speaker 2: N Space Shi Space Hua n G.
Speaker 4: Team Team Wong. We also know to your question, d
Speaker 4: We also know that a lot of very very intelligent
Speaker 4: people for their time did things that people in the
Speaker 4: modern day might find dangerous and foolish. Right, but we
Speaker 4: have to understand we have the benefit of retrospect now,
Speaker 4: so a lot of those folks might discover something and
Speaker 4: not fully know the physiological implications of interacting with that
Speaker 4: substance or chemical or process.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Marie kri is one of the most famous examples. Her
Speaker 4: groundbreaking work did not render her mad, but it did
Speaker 4: expose her to very carcinogenic substances for sure.
Speaker 2: Guys, let's get to the question of somehow this kind
Speaker 2: of thing making people rise to the top. Do we
Speaker 2: think it is potentially a cause and effect thing like that,
Speaker 2: or is it somebody persevering against maybe lead exposure, Like
Speaker 2: the episode a very recent episode of All Things Considered
Speaker 2: from NPR where they discussed Beethoven's hair samples that de
Speaker 2: mentioned in that message, where somebody, some so and so
Speaker 2: out there owned some of Beethoven's hair, you know, as
Speaker 2: you do and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And this person allowed,
Speaker 2: you know, a few strands of that to go out
Speaker 2: to the Mayo Clinic for testing, and they looked at
Speaker 2: it and they saw potential lead poisoning there. Of course,
Speaker 2: it's not known whether lead was introduced at some point
Speaker 2: well after Beethoven's death or after at least that sample
Speaker 2: was collected, but it would maybe give some insight, at
Speaker 2: least according to this episode, into the specialists that were
Speaker 2: interviewed within it that it would gives them insight to
Speaker 2: some of the maladies Beethoven suffered from, you know, including
Speaker 2: some of the things that made him great.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: When you think about Beethoven, I don't know. I always
Speaker 2: think about the stuff that he couldn't hear and yet
Speaker 2: somehow was able to make this incredible music.
Speaker 4: Just pure music theory at that point. And yeah, sensing vibrations.
Speaker 2: Exactly, I mean, And to me, it's thinking about those
Speaker 2: kinds of people who you imagine may kind of have superpowers, right,
Speaker 2: and what if that kind of superpower is only born
Speaker 2: out of the negative effects or negative situation that has
Speaker 2: occurred before it, Right.
Speaker 4: The poison that makes the antidope. Yeah, I mean, it's
Speaker 4: a to answer your general question, Matt, and to your question,
Speaker 4: d it seems like we could find cases arguing for
Speaker 4: both sides of that. We could find the heroic struggle
Speaker 4: against medical condition. We could also find a malady that
Speaker 4: in some way may have explained the later notoriety, prominence,
Speaker 4: or success of a human individual throughout history. And that's
Speaker 4: simply a matter of the huge sample size. Because so
Speaker 4: many people have lived and died, we also, I don't
Speaker 4: know this without waxing too philosophical early in this program.
Speaker 4: I've always thought, you guys, tell me think about this.
Speaker 4: I've always thought that the ability to become successful, the opportunity,
Speaker 4: the luck, all of that together, it inherently bundles within
Speaker 4: it this idea of envisioning a world in which your
Speaker 4: position or your et cetera are different right than they
Speaker 4: are at that present pre success moment, which technically is
Speaker 4: the nice way to say it is an imagination. The
Speaker 4: meaner way to say it is hallucination. So maybe you
Speaker 4: do kind of have to hallucinate a little bit to
Speaker 4: envision a different world and you having a different place
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 2: Well said dude, I'm into it.
Speaker 4: Let's go in jeez, I mean, let's not ingest lead
Speaker 4: nobody jest led mercury is not going to help.
Speaker 2: Or or we could listen to the doctors from I
Speaker 2: don't know, the late eighteen hundreds, although up to about
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty, and we could take this stuff called the
Speaker 2: blue Mass that I had never heard of before.
Speaker 3: Is that the stuff that Ben a Jesra drink in
Speaker 3: the Dune movies.
Speaker 2: Maybe I still haven't seen the second one, but this
Speaker 2: is a substance that is like used as a tincture, right,
Speaker 2: or as a some kind of specialty medicine that you
Speaker 2: would take that a doctor would say, Hey, Ben Nol,
Speaker 2: I know you're feeling a little down with whatever. Why
Speaker 2: don't you take some of those blue Mass. Well, what's
Speaker 2: in it?
Speaker 3: Guys?
Speaker 2: Licorice, root, rose, water, honey, sugar, and a ton of mercury.
Speaker 3: Mercury or heroine.
Speaker 4: I thought you might end with just orange extract. It
Speaker 4: was like, wait, which one's the bad one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well so according to a couple of sources I'm
Speaker 2: looking at right here, it was originally prescribed as a
Speaker 2: cure for syphilis, ye old syphilis. But it was also
Speaker 2: then used as like, you're sick, take some blue mass
Speaker 2: it'll help. Sure, you got a toothache, got stomach worms?
Speaker 2: No problem, Blue masks is here for you. Yeah. Allegedly,
Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln took quite a bit of blue Mass, but yeah,
Speaker 2: probably not a great thing. But hey, Lincoln did some
Speaker 2: cool stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Juliam Luncheon to go team WOA. That part is
Speaker 4: not proven, but yeah, Lincoln did some cool stuff. Noted
Speaker 4: as an amateur wrestler, and I think he went on
Speaker 4: to have another career as well, but that may be
Speaker 4: lost to history. I'm doing ridiculous history references.
Speaker 2: Awesome, guys. I don't have a ton more on this one.
Speaker 2: I think it's a fascinating topic.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I think we might might have to expand on it
Speaker 2: a little bit, but just to find some people who
Speaker 2: were going through some kind of exposure to some kind
Speaker 2: of chemical that could have maybe even changed the course
Speaker 2: of history if they had not been exposed to it.
Speaker 4: Oh, I got one. Sigmund Freud and cocaine, I know,
Speaker 4: multiple poets through the Victorian and the Victorian era in particular.
Speaker 3: And opiate laudanum. Yeah exactly. Yeah, and and and Hitler
Speaker 3: and the Nazis were quite fond of of amphetamines. Kept
Speaker 3: kept him going to the bitter end, and he was terrible.
Speaker 4: Sorry, hot take. I think it was kind of a
Speaker 4: not a good job, not a good dude.
Speaker 2: It's reminding me of our episode on Presidents and Drugs. Yes,
Speaker 2: we talked about all the amphetamines and barbituates and methadone
Speaker 2: and what was it, demarol stuff. The JFK was just
Speaker 2: on all the time for all his various However, he
Speaker 2: needed to be there was a drug for that.
Speaker 3: I feel like.
Speaker 4: That might explain the race to the Moon a little bit,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like he gets his injection
Speaker 4: or whatever it is, and then someone catches him at
Speaker 4: the right time while he's super out of it and
Speaker 4: he's and he's just like, we'll do it because it's hard.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: They were gamma globulins, Gamma globulins. Come on, if that's
Speaker 2: not like superhero Marvelly kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: What is sounds like you're saying, Gamma goblins.
Speaker 2: Gamma globulins.
Speaker 4: I'm on for both of them.
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 4: Let's hang out with the gamma goblins and uh, let's
Speaker 4: experiment college style with gamma globular Wait.
Speaker 2: Gamma gamma god blob. Yeah, it's fun to say. All right, well, hey,
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Speaker 3: We've returned with the message another message in fact from you, Yes, you,
Speaker 3: the public, the conspiracy public, conspiracy realists out there. Today
Speaker 3: we've got a message from the very cryptically named seven. Uh. Okay,
Speaker 3: this is a really cool topic, guys, one that I
Speaker 3: was not familiar with, and I've done a little bit
Speaker 3: of a cursory research, but I think this may well
Speaker 3: be an interesting topic to go a little deeper on
Speaker 3: down the line. And it also pertains to what we
Speaker 3: were just talking about, Matt in terms of like the
Speaker 3: effects that toxic substances can have unexpectedly. Perhaps here we
Speaker 3: go from seven. Hey, guys, I love the show. I
Speaker 3: just fell down a rabbit hole that I can't believe
Speaker 3: you guys haven't covered, or at least if you have,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen or heard about it. Don't think we have.
Speaker 3: So we all know about how militaries around the world
Speaker 3: have access to night vision goggles, night observation devices, and
Speaker 3: other similar technologies, But have you ever heard of die cyanin,
Speaker 3: a chemical that was at one point tested and even
Speaker 3: used for producing lenses that would be used in night
Speaker 3: observation devices. Die Sianin apparently allows users to see things
Speaker 3: that were not really there, potentially seeing into other realms
Speaker 3: of existence. Internet investigators and quote fingers there of the
Speaker 3: subject claim Die sian In production is now illegal in
Speaker 3: the United States and purer die Sion and die is
Speaker 3: impossible to get a hold of due to the government
Speaker 3: wanting to hide the powers that users get from utilizing
Speaker 3: die sign and treated lenses. I found a few claims
Speaker 3: of testing during the Vietnam War and soldiers reported seeing demons.
Speaker 3: No official news on it, as it was easily accessible
Speaker 3: enough for me to find. However, I found this to
Speaker 3: be an exciting and interesting rabbit hole to fall down
Speaker 3: and consume, and I'm sure many fans of the show
Speaker 3: would enjoy it as well. It fits in well with
Speaker 3: themes of hauntings and war zones, as I was previously
Speaker 3: reading about paranormal activity reported by US service members in Iraq, Afghanistan,
Speaker 3: and even Syria for delving into the die sign In situation.
Speaker 3: Abu Grab Prison in Iraq is reportedly extremely haunted, and
Speaker 3: US service members in Afghanistan I have reportedly heard old
Speaker 3: Soviet radio transmissions as well as seen apparitions. Syria even
Speaker 3: had a report of a gin being sighted near the
Speaker 3: Turkish border. Thanks for your time, and I hope you
Speaker 3: find this email interesting respectfully, seven.
Speaker 4: Oh buddy, written out seven or number seven, number seven.
Speaker 4: That's why we ask. That's all I remember. Yeah, this
Speaker 4: is uh, this is a doozy. I don't want to
Speaker 4: plot twist this too soon. But Noel, what do you think?
Speaker 4: What's your initial reaction?
Speaker 3: Well? I had to do a little digging, you know,
Speaker 3: just to kind of wrap a head around what this
Speaker 3: even was or is. And it seems as though die
Speaker 3: Sign and coated lenses were at one point kind of
Speaker 3: sold as like a novelty device, kind of almost like spyglasses,
Speaker 3: you know, with the little mirrors on the side. And
Speaker 3: I actually found a couple of listings for these vintage
Speaker 3: uh they're called Aura goggles, and I've got two of
Speaker 3: what looked like the same exact product. One on eBay
Speaker 3: official die Sign and our glass is weird rare hunting
Speaker 3: ghost Wicca psychic, and then another one that says I
Speaker 3: Sign and Oura Goggles hunting ghost Reiki Crystal paranormal psychic.
Speaker 3: One of them is eighty nine to ninety nine, so
Speaker 3: the other is four thousand, ninety nine dollars. The second one, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it says see it says die sign in our glass,
Speaker 3: Di sign in. First of all, the trademark Aura glasses
Speaker 3: trademark see Auras instantly works as described. I can even
Speaker 3: see ghosts with them. Amazing glasses by Reiki. Students love them,
Speaker 3: help full seller, saw my aura instantly in the mirror.
Speaker 3: Thank you, fast delivery. Awesome product and they work just like.
Speaker 4: Okay, not to yuck anyone's young before we get into it,
Speaker 4: but would it not be cheaper just to take some shrooms?
Speaker 3: Well, hey guys, you get book savings here. If you
Speaker 3: buy it just one, it's only it's forty nine to
Speaker 3: ninety nine even, But if you buy two, it's forty
Speaker 3: four ninety nine and ten cents. So last bit, SI
Speaker 3: pass on the savings, No I digest. But it's pretty funny.
Speaker 3: This is not actually a vintage thing. This is clearly
Speaker 3: a grift, you know. And that's the thing about stuff
Speaker 3: like reports of aura, of being able to see auras.
Speaker 3: You know, we do have some folks that do it
Speaker 3: very good naturedly. Of course you have. There's actually a
Speaker 3: pretty cool local person here in Atlanta who does aura photography,
Speaker 3: which is really cool and I'm not really up on
Speaker 3: the technology or how that works exactly, but it does
Speaker 3: seem to whatever type of photographic techniques are used create
Speaker 3: a varying colors depending on the person and the idea
Speaker 3: of an area. Of course, is this internal energy. I
Speaker 3: guess that expresses itself in color. And the thing that's
Speaker 3: interesting about Diecian then is my understanding that what it
Speaker 3: does is it kind of allows allows you to see
Speaker 3: more colors. Because the typical human eye has three cones,
Speaker 3: and the cones or what allow us to see color,
Speaker 3: one of them that a lot of people don't have
Speaker 3: is the one that allows you to see red, and
Speaker 3: if you don't have that, it leads to color blindness.
Speaker 3: And I, Ben, I believe that's that's what you have, right,
Speaker 3: So you if you would be lacking that that red.
Speaker 4: Cone, just winged it traffic lights. It's surprising so few
Speaker 4: people have died.
Speaker 3: Well, I trust you, Ben, I know that you've got
Speaker 3: it down pat at this point. But here's the thing
Speaker 3: that's interesting. The typical human being has three different types
Speaker 3: of cones that divide up visual color. This is from
Speaker 3: a health Line article Information into red green and blue signals.
Speaker 3: These signals can be combined in the brain in a
Speaker 3: total visual message. There are, however, folks that have an
Speaker 3: extra type of cone that allows them to see a
Speaker 3: fourth dimensionality of color. This results from a genetic mutation,
Speaker 3: and these individuals are called tetra chromats. And guess who
Speaker 3: are more likely to be tetrachromats, guys.
Speaker 4: Female identifying.
Speaker 3: That is absolutely true. Okay, sorry, then scooped you man, Yes,
Speaker 3: female identifying individuals with containing two X chromosomes, because that
Speaker 3: is a genetic condition that tends to make that mutation
Speaker 3: more likely.
Speaker 4: Oh right, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to interject here. We
Speaker 4: shouldn't say female identifying, just people with two X.
Speaker 3: Chromat people two X chromosomes expression. It is about the expression, yeah, specifically,
Speaker 3: and oftentimes individuals with those two X chromosomes, they tend
Speaker 3: to be identified as more likely to have psychic powers
Speaker 3: or the ability to see beyond the veil, you know, witches.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what.
Speaker 4: We also talk about. Tetrachromats in depth in our previous episodes.
Speaker 4: Are real life superpowers.
Speaker 3: Exactly right, that's a real thing. Well, and that's the thing, guys.
Speaker 3: There are ways of like, I think there are a
Speaker 3: couple of tests that you can do to quote unquote
Speaker 3: try to see your aura or the aura of others.
Speaker 3: And there's two very distinctly different ones. One is like
Speaker 3: holding your hand up in front of a white background,
Speaker 3: and one involves holding your hand up in front of
Speaker 3: a black background. And the supporters of each of these
Speaker 3: tests claim theirs is the best. But it's sort of
Speaker 3: about looking past your hand and into the kind of
Speaker 3: middle distance, almost like you're trying to solve one of
Speaker 3: those magic eye pieces that I've never been very successful
Speaker 3: at doing, so I kind of have a have a
Speaker 3: feeling that I would not see auras either. But you know,
Speaker 3: we also know that if you squint your eyes real hard,
Speaker 3: you start to see crazy colors, and if you focus
Speaker 3: on things long enough, you get eye fatigue that starts to,
Speaker 3: you know, make things get a little psychedelic looking. So
Speaker 3: the question then becomes, is this a real energy that
Speaker 3: is being perceived by those you know who maybe are
Speaker 3: blessed with this with this additional cone or not, Because
Speaker 3: there certainly are people that can claim to see auras,
Speaker 3: claim to be able to see into other realms without
Speaker 3: the benefit of these these aura goggles or this you
Speaker 3: know di cyanin coded lenses.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he well, yeah, I mean the first part of
Speaker 4: your question there is U. I think pretty pretty on point.
Speaker 4: Human beings, all living things, do emit various sorts of energy.
Speaker 4: Some of that energy could be heat, right, and animals
Speaker 4: whose vision ranges into the infrared would be able to
Speaker 4: perceive that. However, humans in the grand scheme of things
Speaker 4: have a fairly limited spectrum of vision. Also, the idea
Speaker 4: of documenting it, we've got to say it before the
Speaker 4: emails get to us. Conspiracydiheartradio dot com. Curelean photography is
Speaker 4: considered one of the old school proofs of auras or
Speaker 4: energy emanated. And I think also, isn't there the thing
Speaker 4: where all human beings their skin is actually sort of
Speaker 4: zebra like and they do they do glow in the
Speaker 4: dark just a little bit. I can't remember. I'll have
Speaker 4: to find it. Well.
Speaker 3: I do want to shout out a podcast that I
Speaker 3: just discovered called Planet Weird, or maybe that's the network
Speaker 3: and the pod. Yeah, the podcast is called Haunted Objects
Speaker 3: Podcasts on the Planet Weird network and they actually are
Speaker 3: on YouTube and the host, one of whom identifies as
Speaker 3: a which talk extensively about this stuff, and I really
Speaker 3: learned a lot from listening to their conversation. And they
Speaker 3: reference the something that came up for us very recently too,
Speaker 3: the John Carpenter film They Live, where when the person
Speaker 3: puts on the glasses, he all of a sudden sees
Speaker 3: through the veil of what's being you know, like the
Speaker 3: wool being pulled over our eyes or whatever, and sees
Speaker 3: the truth behind it all this like species of whatever,
Speaker 3: like zombie alien stand in for you know, bad invaders, overlords,
Speaker 3: corporate monsters are actually who are running the show. And
Speaker 3: also you know, things like money, all those like catchphrases
Speaker 3: like what is it we own you or something like that.
Speaker 3: I actually that's right, obay of course. And Shepherd Fairy
Speaker 3: the artist took a lot of that imagery and ran
Speaker 3: with a lot of his work.
Speaker 4: Money is so hot, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, money is how I like money. I watched Idiocracy
Speaker 3: the other night, does not hold up? Did not age?
Speaker 4: Well, you didn't like it?
Speaker 3: I like parts of it. But they say the F word,
Speaker 3: not the fun one, the not so fun one a
Speaker 3: lot in that movie. And I found it a little
Speaker 3: little cringey that there are things about it that are funny,
Speaker 3: but overall it is a pretty stupid movie, which is
Speaker 3: sort of the point. And by and by the F word,
Speaker 3: I'm referring to the one that is a disparaging term
Speaker 3: for for the queer community. And I don't think they
Speaker 3: meant any harm. It's it's it's it's meant as a satire.
Speaker 3: It's it's meant to be depicting stupid people who are thoughtless.
Speaker 3: But when you see it thrown around like that a
Speaker 3: bunch and I'm also watching it with my kid, who
Speaker 3: is you know it identifies as as queer. Uh, it
Speaker 3: kind of rubbed me the wrong way a little bit,
Speaker 3: But anyway, that's neither here nor there. This is not
Speaker 3: a soapbox time for Noel Brown.
Speaker 4: We do have an answer for you seven and we
Speaker 4: can trace a little bit of this so uh the
Speaker 4: die signing concept, the idea that exposure of human optic
Speaker 4: capabilities could increase the amount of the spectrum a human
Speaker 4: can see. It's actually it's pretty ancient. It got pop
Speaker 4: or pretty old. It got popular I think due to
Speaker 4: TikTok conspiracies fairly recently. And the idea of the cover
Speaker 4: up is amazing and does sound worth looking into because
Speaker 4: Uncle Sam gets up to all kinds of creepy. The
Speaker 4: answer is it dates back, in my opinion, to nineteen twelve.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I didn't want to add maybe before you
Speaker 3: give us the juice. It's not illegal to own or
Speaker 3: to possess. I do think it's not manufactured because it's
Speaker 3: really toxic. It was used as a fabric dye and
Speaker 3: industrial processes. But I was looking on some Reddit threads
Speaker 3: discussing this very thing, and some very helpful chemists went
Speaker 3: on there and told you how you can make a
Speaker 3: batch up yourself if.
Speaker 4: You want to, because it's like coal tar, right is.
Speaker 3: That's why we're going it's certainly not scheduled or something
Speaker 3: or some somehow illegal to manufacture in your own personal home.
Speaker 3: It's just no longer made because it was, you know,
Speaker 3: pretty pretty deadly, much like mercury is no longer used
Speaker 3: in curing. You know the felt for hats.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just from the name it sounds deathly. Familion.
Speaker 3: But ben, what happened in nineteen twelve?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so back in nineteen twelve, there's this guy
Speaker 4: named Walter John Kilner k I L n e R.
Speaker 4: And he is in London. He was in charge of
Speaker 4: electro therapy at Saint Thomas Hospital and he was super
Speaker 4: into auras. He published one of the first Western medical
Speaker 4: studies of what he called He called it, I think
Speaker 4: the human atmosphere, and he said that if he treated
Speaker 4: His argument was that if he treated certain interfaces or
Speaker 4: like kilner screens, with this substance in particular, then you
Speaker 4: would be able to perceive radiation outside the normal spectrum
Speaker 4: of light that's visible to humans. And he got a
Speaker 4: lot of attention for it until wait, he published the
Speaker 4: study in like nineteen eleven. In nineteen twelve, the British
Speaker 4: Medical Journal comes out and they say, this absolutely doesn't work.
Speaker 4: We can't prove this is an oric force. And maybe
Speaker 4: the reason he also to your point noal he said,
Speaker 4: he said, look, we can't look at these screens too
Speaker 4: long because it will hurt our eyes. But if we
Speaker 4: look at them after a regular pattern of viewing, if
Speaker 4: we get our ocular reps in, then we don't need
Speaker 4: our screens at all. We've been exposed to this die
Speaker 4: so hard or these substances that we can perceive what
Speaker 4: he called the N rays. N rays come from another
Speaker 4: French scientist like the letter in for Moto or North
Speaker 4: in rays.
Speaker 2: Guy, I thought in my head it was like aura
Speaker 2: is the outrays and then that's way.
Speaker 4: Cooler, that's way cooler.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 4: But it looks like what it looks like what happened,
Speaker 4: And you can read the British medical journals approach on
Speaker 4: this or their conclusions. It looks like Kilner was not
Speaker 4: able to convince people that his methods were real or
Speaker 4: that you could see auras. And it's tough because there's
Speaker 4: not There wasn't at that point a way to really
Speaker 4: measure it. We also know that's a heck of a
Speaker 4: campfire story for sure.
Speaker 3: But if the.
Speaker 4: US government had any kind of perceivable edge in that
Speaker 4: any government had a perceivable edge in that kind of pursuit,
Speaker 4: they would have done it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Nuclear weapons can end the world, and we still a
Speaker 4: ton of those, so why wouldn't they mess with some
Speaker 4: contacts that could save you some money on night goggles?
Speaker 2: So dope, just put that right in your eyes.
Speaker 4: Just finally, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Just stick it right in my neck while okay, just
Speaker 3: put it right in there.
Speaker 4: And this is not again. We never want to be
Speaker 4: the people who come in with this, like wrecking the
Speaker 4: fun of a good story. But to the point you
Speaker 4: made earlier in this conversation, die siding is dangerous for people.
Speaker 4: So it's important to know that if you genuinely seek
Speaker 4: night vision at this point, you're probably better off just
Speaker 4: buying the goggles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, only only five grand or eight email listing Actually
Speaker 3: night vision goggles okay? Sorry? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Which are in the hundreds and thousands, absolutely good will?
Speaker 4: Does TIMO have them? Does tim have no? Oh?
Speaker 3: I hope so. I'm sure they probably are made with
Speaker 3: the cyanide stuff, though I didn't want to add the
Speaker 3: ben You mentioned certain animals seeing was it infrared?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: I believe there are also like butterflies have something like
Speaker 3: six cones and they can see. They can perceive a
Speaker 3: world of color that is unknown to any of us.
Speaker 3: And I do love this idea, and it really is
Speaker 3: a good thing to always kind of ground yourself to
Speaker 3: not be skeptical of people perceiving things that we can't perceive,
Speaker 3: because we know that that's very real. You don't have
Speaker 3: the equipment for this stuff, And it really does make
Speaker 3: me continue to kind of believe that there is something
Speaker 3: out there that we can't fully wrap our heads around.
Speaker 3: And I am always annoyed when people when people are
Speaker 3: like I can't see it, therefore it's not real.
Speaker 4: I find that to be a realism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's just to cop out and it
Speaker 3: is just it's kind of what's the word just arbitrary
Speaker 3: kind of I don't know, negativity. It's just nagging. It's
Speaker 3: yucking the yum and trying to act like you're It's
Speaker 3: a very egocentric view of the world and I think
Speaker 3: that's maybe the best way to put it.
Speaker 4: Also, animals can see an ultraviolet right. Look, humans are
Speaker 4: behind It is a vision game.
Speaker 3: Have you seen that? Predator?
Speaker 5: Guys?
Speaker 2: I mean, holy cow, guys. I have a way for
Speaker 2: us to get ahead on this game and a challenge
Speaker 2: that I think we can we can make happen. They
Speaker 2: sell on this Amazon site that I just found for the.
Speaker 3: First the same as Timu.
Speaker 2: I think so or wish. Maybe it has diffraction glasses
Speaker 2: like prism glasses that you can buy for fifteen dollars
Speaker 2: or sixteen dollars excuse me if you have prime Also
Speaker 2: two day returns of whatever it says on here. It's
Speaker 2: a weird website. It's got all kinds of information.
Speaker 3: This episode brought to you by Let's.
Speaker 2: All all get a pair of those Alexis. You're included
Speaker 2: on this. Let's all get a pair of those and
Speaker 2: then just wear them out somewhere socially publicly and see
Speaker 2: if we can function while all the light we encounter
Speaker 2: is diffracted as though we are on some kind of substance.
Speaker 3: Those are called rainbow goggles, and I'll be there with you,
Speaker 3: but I'll be wearing my gooner goggles aka the Apple
Speaker 3: Vision pro Nice. Surely there's a diffraction setting on that thing,
Speaker 3: right for however, many thousands of dollars that costs? Well? Hey,
Speaker 3: thanks number seven seven, the number seven written out as
Speaker 3: a numerical form. We appreciate that one. That was. That
Speaker 3: was That was some cool food for thought. Let's take
Speaker 3: a quick break. We'll come back. We'll have one more
Speaker 3: piece of listener, ma'am, we've returned, skirt.
Speaker 4: Skirt can take it a record, scratch, doc terfect, thank you.
Speaker 4: We've got a couple of pieces of correspondence. We've got
Speaker 4: one from the Maiden Fair, which goes into bacteria phages
Speaker 4: but talks about something else at the beginning. So let's
Speaker 4: go to that. Let's go to that now. Oh and
Speaker 4: we're working live. Got a correction. I can't remember which
Speaker 4: show this is odd or we'll call it correction. Helping
Speaker 4: hand from our pal small Box Games. The stubby tailed cats,
Speaker 4: the ones they're born without tails. They are the Manx cats.
Speaker 4: So thank you small Box Games. Just got to us
Speaker 4: on that one. And now we go to the Maiden Fair.
Speaker 4: The Maiden Fair says, hey, guys, it's the Maiden Fair.
Speaker 4: You can use my name if you'd like, if you
Speaker 4: did want to share this. It's very relevant to your
Speaker 4: recent show on porn Hub, which, by the way, Maiden Fair,
Speaker 4: I think was very difficult for all of us. Very dark,
Speaker 4: dark subject. So Maiden Fair says, I live in Texas.
Speaker 4: I just listened to your episode on primarily Pornhub and
Speaker 4: Adult Entertainment.
Speaker 2: And wait, she listens to us on Pornhub.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's a gig economy, okay, So she says,
Speaker 4: I was waiting for you all to talk about the
Speaker 4: new self imposed band porn Hub has inflicted upon its
Speaker 4: users in Texas. I don't know if you were aware
Speaker 4: of this. She basically says, I will attach screenshots I
Speaker 4: took from what I could see when I try to
Speaker 4: go to the site from my phone without a VPN. There,
Speaker 4: the Maiden Fair concludes, And just to give some context here,
Speaker 4: Maiden Fair, in that episode, we had to explore some
Speaker 4: very troubling things. I think we published that on the seventeenth,
Speaker 4: and maybe the porn Hub Texas band came into effect
Speaker 4: on the fifteenth of May, a couple of days before.
Speaker 4: But have you guys heard about this one?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just a piece of like random news.
Speaker 2: I guess when we were researching that episode. Well, it's weird.
Speaker 2: I think Maiden Fair is talking about a VPN, Like,
Speaker 2: if we put our like, used a VPN from here
Speaker 2: and selected Texas, could we still access.
Speaker 4: Pornite right, you're you're a spot on dude. Yeah. Porn
Speaker 4: Ub is also blocked in Arkansas, Mississippi, Montana, North Carolina, Virginia,
Speaker 4: and Utah.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that individual states could block websites.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's the private company blocking access to.
Speaker 3: It because of the laws being to so stringent there
Speaker 3: that they're afraid of correct, OK, got it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the requirement, at least in the case of Texas,
Speaker 4: it's a bill called HB eleven eighty one requiring adult
Speaker 4: sites to verify that visitors are of age.
Speaker 3: And it's you know, it's very telling, isn't it of
Speaker 3: porn hubbs policies that they would just say, you know what,
Speaker 3: better safe than sorry, let's just pull the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Just turn it off right there?
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And porn Hub's argument there is interesting because they're saying
Speaker 4: this type of legislation will only drive people to less
Speaker 4: scrupulous sites, which quote put minors in your privacy at risk. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it's a for profit company saying that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And as we said, it's one of the biggest,
Speaker 2: if not the biggest, distributor of lapron.
Speaker 4: Lapro and okay, old school, old school internet language. I
Speaker 4: love it. We're so lat right now. But you make
Speaker 4: an excellent point there, Matt, because porn hub is, of
Speaker 4: course one facet of a much larger company. And we
Speaker 4: go into detail on called a low which was formerly
Speaker 4: called mind Geek, And this is something that I think
Speaker 4: more people should be aware of. We talked in our
Speaker 4: previous Strange News earlier this week about VPNs in general,
Speaker 4: it is good to have a VPN. You don't need
Speaker 4: to rationalize it by saying you're looking at untoward things,
Speaker 4: unclean things. It's just a way to protect yourself against
Speaker 4: the growing erosion of privacy. But also I don't it
Speaker 4: might being a jerk. I would question some of their
Speaker 4: motives in this.
Speaker 3: In this, Oh, you think porn hubs motives in the
Speaker 3: question dear No, Yeah, definitely, by the way I mean
Speaker 3: the VPN thing. One thing I think people forget is
Speaker 3: like there are all kinds of hacking scams out in
Speaker 3: public Internet that are disguised as other things. If you
Speaker 3: log into that without a VPN, you are exposed. But
Speaker 3: if you do it through a VPN, you got that
Speaker 3: extra layer of protection. So there are many completely legitimate
Speaker 3: reasons for using a VPN.
Speaker 4: Well SA. So this leads us to another conversation and
Speaker 4: something that this show and Civilization, I think more importantly
Speaker 4: is wrestling with in the human world, which is the
Speaker 4: idea of anonymity or perceptions thereof in the online landscape.
Speaker 4: Right Whenever, whenever there is a move against privacy, it's
Speaker 4: often going to be packaged and presented as protecting the innocent, right,
Speaker 4: protecting the children. You need to have your government ID
Speaker 4: on record to use the internet, because if you don't
Speaker 4: the terrorist win stuff like that?
Speaker 2: But sure, it just stinks that I can see the
Speaker 2: argument for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see the argument too.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I can also see how it is convenient, crooked,
Speaker 4: and easily weaponized.
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you too.
Speaker 5: I Uh.
Speaker 2: It just thinks that we can't have it both ways.
Speaker 2: I can't stop the really truly evil stuff that's happening
Speaker 2: unless you have something like that. But then the rest
Speaker 2: of us are. I don't know, I don't like it.
Speaker 4: What if people were just less crappy?
Speaker 2: Hey, you think we could make that happen?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think that ship might have sailed.
Speaker 2: Ben Right, you need to get the lead out of
Speaker 2: our water sources.
Speaker 3: Remember that's Oh my god, you just gave me a flashback.
Speaker 3: On my local classic rock radio stations may have been common.
Speaker 3: They always had a block of led Zeppelin music called
Speaker 3: get the lead out. Nice.
Speaker 4: Oh well, what if we just, you know, as corporate
Speaker 4: America says, and obviously corporate America never makes mistakes, what
Speaker 4: if we just lean into it. What if we get
Speaker 4: the lead back in the pipes? What if we get
Speaker 4: the mercury back in the.
Speaker 2: Hats and the microplastics out of our balls.
Speaker 3: It's just man, maybe it'll give us superpowers, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, if pissing plastic is a superpower, so is that.
Speaker 2: Going to be a new search term on port hub microplast.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh boy, these are too deep.
Speaker 4: We have we do have one more piece of one
Speaker 4: more piece of corespond and it's here. Just as you know, folks,
Speaker 4: we like to end the show with the letters from home.
Speaker 4: And there's something that's very important to all of us,
Speaker 4: both making the show and more importantly, all of us
Speaker 4: listening along at home wherever in the wide world we
Speaker 4: may be. This comes to us from uninformed Burrito, who says, hey, guys,
Speaker 4: just listen to strange news earlier. Is it possible that
Speaker 4: the burrito taco ruling you mentioned was made for tax purposes?
Speaker 4: I live in northwestern Ontario and our province has rules
Speaker 4: about what taxes places can apply based on if the
Speaker 4: item can be considered a meal or just a snack
Speaker 4: and ding dean burrito, you are correct.
Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right. That's exactly It was a designation
Speaker 3: of like fast food versus like a sit down thing.
Speaker 3: It was about zoning. It was something I read that.
Speaker 4: And that's exactly that's in the article. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's also there's also a cool thing here, Like usually
Speaker 4: when we hear those fun, viral late night news fodder stories,
Speaker 4: usually there is some real, often financially motivated reason behind it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: That's why certain products have weird qualifications as foods in
Speaker 4: the United States. It goes back to how they're taxed.
Speaker 4: So kudos to Burrito. I would say you are not
Speaker 4: uninformed different, you are a very informed Burrito. You also
Speaker 4: hipped us to something called the food cube rule. Have
Speaker 4: you guys heard of this?
Speaker 3: Have you seen this? It's the food cube like the
Speaker 3: new food pyramid.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 4: I don't know about this, so I'll share a picture.
Speaker 2: First thing I'm seeing. I just had sushi the other day.
Speaker 2: Their depiction of sushi is right and wrong. It's right
Speaker 2: and wrong because you can get sushi with the toast
Speaker 2: situation too, where the rice is just on the bottom.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a heuristic, right, So it's not it's
Speaker 4: not in depth, correct, but it's the food cube rule
Speaker 4: or the cube rule of food is premised on the
Speaker 4: idea that one can identify dishes based on the location
Speaker 4: of the starch. And you make an excellent point, Matt.
Speaker 4: Not all sushi is cubed up, right, Sashimi, I like
Speaker 4: a hand roll, hand you love a hand roll.
Speaker 3: I love a handrel.
Speaker 4: And the calzona corse, there are six in the cube
Speaker 4: rule of food. There's one toast or an open face
Speaker 4: sandwich as someone call it a pizza. Yeah, a pizza.
Speaker 3: Well, see, that's the thing. One one could argue that
Speaker 3: a hot dog is an open faced sandwich.
Speaker 4: One could one could, especially depending on like when I
Speaker 4: was living in Central America, there are often hot dogs
Speaker 4: are often served like on a.
Speaker 3: Pa or a.
Speaker 4: Taco. Then is number three, well, number two sandwich stars
Speaker 4: on bottom and top, taco starch is on the bottom,
Speaker 4: and then the two vertical sides sushi cube. That's a
Speaker 4: as we said, it's heuristic. It's not entirely accurate. But yes, exactly,
Speaker 4: oh yes, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yes. But is it a hypercube?
Speaker 4: That is the question. The calzone also could have further
Speaker 4: cubes of food within it. The mystery continues, and we're
Speaker 4: glad you're here for it, folks. We want to hear
Speaker 4: your in depth. Beat me here, doc, you're in a
Speaker 4: depth opinion on sandwiches and foodstuffs in general. We're big
Speaker 4: fans of food. Hope that's not a hot take. Thanks
Speaker 4: to d Thanks and seven is.
Speaker 3: A salad with croutons a sandwich. Sorry, my head's all mess.
Speaker 4: It depends on the size as cube. It's one big creuton.
Speaker 4: I would eat a creuton bowl salad. Thanks also to
Speaker 4: the very Informed Burrito. Thanks to the Maiden Fair. Thanks
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