Speaker 1: M. You're listening to play back a variety I Heart
Speaker 1: radio podcast. I'm your host, Variety Awards Editor Chris Tapley.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic, had a great time. Where was the premiere? Uh?
Speaker 1: This one? Oh, this one? It was They just told
Speaker 1: me it was l a live right like downtown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was time. Yeah, that's what we had to get out.
Speaker 1: Premiere I think last year, okay, which was kind of fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can imagine you guys comfortable, Are you sweet? Make
Speaker 1: all the noise you want? Cheer, cheer any any time
Speaker 1: I ask an awesome question. The round of applause is
Speaker 1: always encouraged. You're not gonna have that wrapper going ms,
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's all good, all right, get all my
Speaker 1: stuff find Uh. I do like a little backup just
Speaker 1: in case, you know, right, No, actually, I the Oscars
Speaker 1: take it all out of me every year. So taking
Speaker 1: a break. It's amazing you're doing this. Yeah, hey man,
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you really bad. Good good.
Speaker 1: This movie is hilarious. But we'll talk about in a minute. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we were recording, so we're gonna dive right in. Okay,
Speaker 1: We're here with David or yellow Wall. He's the Star
Speaker 1: of Gringo, which I saw a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: David gets to be funny. I can't hear that surprising. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about that. But before I get to that,
Speaker 1: you know, we're recording this right after the Oscars. What
Speaker 1: do you think of the Oscars this year? I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. It's a silly thing to say,
Speaker 1: but I actually thought a lot of the species were
Speaker 1: really good. I think that jet Ski really got people motivated,
Speaker 1: moving things along. I think they were scant surprises. Um,
Speaker 1: I was. I was surprised by best original song. I
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be this is Me and
Speaker 1: and to be honest, seeing Um under Day and Common
Speaker 1: seeing that song as well, it just felt like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if it wasn't the front run up before, it should be.
Speaker 1: Now it's a bit late. Like if everyone voted right
Speaker 1: now and all the performances, they probably would voted for Common. Yeah, exactly, exactly,
Speaker 1: Um and so. But but you know, that was the
Speaker 1: only real kind of surprise. Everything else sort of went
Speaker 1: as certainly I thought it would. Yeah, Um, the the
Speaker 1: selma of it all, with the the Oscar so white
Speaker 1: that came out after that. We've talked about this before,
Speaker 1: but you know, I had avon the show last week.
Speaker 1: I was curious her thoughts in terms of how far
Speaker 1: we've come, how far we have to go, and and
Speaker 1: all of that. What do you think. Well, I think
Speaker 1: it's amazing the difference three years makes, you know. I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, only only three years ago in protest of
Speaker 1: the Eric ghana Um situation. You know, we wore I
Speaker 1: can't breathe t shirts and we got really reprimanded by
Speaker 1: academy members, by other people who just you know, I
Speaker 1: mean the literal phrase, excuse my French, was why are
Speaker 1: they stirring ship? And here we are three years on
Speaker 1: and you barely have a lapel big enough to to
Speaker 1: pin all the badges of quite rightful protest, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's Darker or me too or the gun situation.
Speaker 1: So I'm just kind of taken aback by by the
Speaker 1: fact that society, culture, you know, certainly this industry can
Speaker 1: shift so much. And of course, as I as I
Speaker 1: mentioned the me too movement being a situation that I
Speaker 1: think will bring about change that is irrevocable um. But
Speaker 1: you know, going back to the Salma of it all. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: I just think it's amazing and wonderful that we now
Speaker 1: have films like Black Panther and get Out where there's
Speaker 1: not even a whiff or a whisper of the need
Speaker 1: for some kind of white savior character, which I am
Speaker 1: absolutely sure is why Salma got attacked for its depiction
Speaker 1: of Lyndon Johnson. Um. And you know, because he did
Speaker 1: not fulfill that all. Yeah, because you know, there's still
Speaker 1: culturally that there was a need, There felt a need
Speaker 1: that if you're going to tell a heroic story about America,
Speaker 1: it needs to have some kind of why presence that
Speaker 1: further to the advance of just people generally. I mean,
Speaker 1: the the accusation that was leveled against the film was
Speaker 1: a completely erroneous and false statement that Selma was Lyndon
Speaker 1: Johnson's idea, and that was planted by a rival studio
Speaker 1: who were threatened by the film. We now know that
Speaker 1: for a fact, And ask me which studio was, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to tell you quick. But but the fact
Speaker 1: that that narrative even took is I think what is
Speaker 1: so egregious in a sense. But you know, I know
Speaker 1: for a fact get Out would not have been nominated
Speaker 1: for four oscars pre Oscar so White. So again that
Speaker 1: is something that I think points that progress. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Now with Gringo, you get to cut loose. As I said,
Speaker 1: you get to be funny. I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: I was reading all these headlines. It's like David Oyolo,
Speaker 1: will you know, finally gets to you know, be funnier
Speaker 1: or whatever. And I'm just like, I find that people
Speaker 1: have that said about them, like people think that they're
Speaker 1: so serious or something. Often are just kind of funny
Speaker 1: people if you know them, like, you know, not to
Speaker 1: drop a name, but Christian Bale is that way, Like
Speaker 1: he's everyone thinks he's so serious, but he's such a
Speaker 1: cut up in a kind of scenes. Are you that
Speaker 1: way in general? Are you just like a funny guy
Speaker 1: in general? Do you? I think it's strange to see
Speaker 1: these people acting like, oh you funny? Wow. Well, to
Speaker 1: be honest, it's it's it's nice too, at this stage
Speaker 1: of my career to bring something that for other people
Speaker 1: feels fresh, you know, to my friends, to my wife,
Speaker 1: my kids, you know, they know the goofy side of me,
Speaker 1: and that was certainly something I wanted to show more of.
Speaker 1: It's just the way it happened in my career that
Speaker 1: I've just done more dramatic stuff. I have actually done
Speaker 1: more comedy on stage, and so of course less people
Speaker 1: see it. But I also wanted it to be the
Speaker 1: right circumstances. You know, not all films or scripts I
Speaker 1: should say that say they're a comedy are, in my opinion, funny.
Speaker 1: You know, I prefer comedy that is situational rather than
Speaker 1: self consciously comedic, and scripts like Gringo don't come along
Speaker 1: every day. Yeah, you can also use that to your advantage.
Speaker 1: I would assume, you know, if people think that you're
Speaker 1: some stoic presence all the time or something. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm laying it on thick. I mean I don't obviously,
Speaker 1: but you know, if people think that of you, then
Speaker 1: the surprise has to be kind of fun to play with.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, But you know, but the actors I most
Speaker 1: admire are actors who, at different points have shown us
Speaker 1: completely different sides of themselves. I mean, Ryan Gosling is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite actors. And we've seen him give
Speaker 1: comedic roles in intensely dramatic roles. We've seen him do action,
Speaker 1: we've seen him do sci Fi. You've seen him do
Speaker 1: romantic comedy, you know. That to me is what an
Speaker 1: actor is, someone who can really just ring the changes
Speaker 1: as far as any kind of depiction of humanity. Um.
Speaker 1: I love seeing Robert de Niro when he does his
Speaker 1: comedic roles, having watched you know, his earlier work especially
Speaker 1: and just how intense and dramatic those films were, you know,
Speaker 1: it kind of gives a new lease of life. I
Speaker 1: think the same thing about Jack Nicholson, you know, And
Speaker 1: so to be able to find the space for me
Speaker 1: to do that is something I really aspired to. What
Speaker 1: are some comedians you like, comedies you like of curiosity? Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, they were actually huge inspirations in doing
Speaker 1: this film. Midnight Run is a is a favorite of
Speaker 1: mine because again it's situational. You know, those guys are
Speaker 1: not overtly playing for laughs, and it actually has some
Speaker 1: poignancy to it. There is there is some some real
Speaker 1: slapstick to it, and then there's just it's just playing
Speaker 1: funny and it stands the test of time. I think
Speaker 1: films that are less self consciously comedic do that. I
Speaker 1: think I would say Fargo is one of those sideways.
Speaker 1: I can see every day of the week. The Big
Speaker 1: Lebowski is a big favorite of mine, you know. So,
Speaker 1: so films like that that not necessarily reliant on what
Speaker 1: you would call comedic actors. Um, you know that that's
Speaker 1: my favorite kind of film comedy. How about Nash's Nash
Speaker 1: Edgerton's kind of breed of comedy. He's got such a
Speaker 1: biting sense of humor. If everybody home, if you haven't
Speaker 1: seen his short films Spider and Bear, they're hilarious. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then with this film, you know, it's a very
Speaker 1: specific sense of humor. So was it something that you found,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Not appealing is not the word, but
Speaker 1: it was a sense of humor that was kind of
Speaker 1: in line with yours. Or appealing is actually the right
Speaker 1: word in relation to this, because I saw his short
Speaker 1: films and I also saw his feature film The Square,
Speaker 1: and a common theme in all his work is hubris.
Speaker 1: You know this this thing of I guess comma um
Speaker 1: is another way of putting it that if you do good,
Speaker 1: good things will hopefully happen. If you do bad, it's
Speaker 1: going to bounce back and bite you in the butt.
Speaker 1: And you really see that in all of those films
Speaker 1: and that's actually, you know, something I believe to be
Speaker 1: true in life. And you know, he really plays on
Speaker 1: that and he pushes it to the extremes. And because
Speaker 1: he was and is a stunt man, there does tend
Speaker 1: to be a real physical element, a shocking physical element
Speaker 1: to it. You you watch all of his films, I've
Speaker 1: had moments where I've gone, oh like that, you know,
Speaker 1: when when something has happened. And we just had the
Speaker 1: premiere last night, and you heard that sound a few
Speaker 1: times in our film, and that is something that I
Speaker 1: love watching and of course love to be a part of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: regarding his stunt work, that first short film he did
Speaker 1: Lucky where he's in the back of the trunk of
Speaker 1: a speed Yeah, they checked that one out to everyone.
Speaker 1: It's shorter and it's brilliant. It's great um and also
Speaker 1: the cast. You've got a great cast on this movie.
Speaker 1: Joel Ledgerton, Nash's brother, Charlie's there, and I love Charotto Copley,
Speaker 1: He's like one of the funniest guys. Danny Newton, Amanda
Speaker 1: cipherd So talk about that ensemble working with these people, Well,
Speaker 1: I think you know, when you when you look at
Speaker 1: that cast and it goes back to what I was
Speaker 1: saying about those films and the kind of actors who
Speaker 1: were in those films and the tone of those films.
Speaker 1: You know, we are all actors, probably known more for
Speaker 1: our dramatic work, but we were all drawn to this
Speaker 1: because there is something funny about it. But you can
Speaker 1: also bring a three dimensional character. You're not playing just
Speaker 1: archetypes or caricatures. In a sense, there's there's enough space
Speaker 1: for specificity and there and I think that that's what
Speaker 1: all of us, we are part of the film, have
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to show elsewhere. And it was so
Speaker 1: much fun because almost all of us were doing things
Speaker 1: that we're not known for and therefore just had a
Speaker 1: lot of fun with because you know, as actors, you're
Speaker 1: you're constantly looking for where you're going to be given
Speaker 1: latitude to stretch yourself, to show the audience a different
Speaker 1: side and to do things you haven't done before. So
Speaker 1: that I think that sense of fun we were all
Speaker 1: having really comes through in the movie. Yeah, oh, press scraining,
Speaker 1: I've been to where they served me Margarita's before him.
Speaker 1: That kicks off a new trend. Yes, anyone who sees
Speaker 1: the film was we'll know how appropriate that is. And
Speaker 1: the little reserved you know, because I guess I'm so important.
Speaker 1: The little reserved tag for our seats was the panther
Speaker 1: right a right right. Yeah, they were they were working
Speaker 1: it working well, uh, speaking earlier of it. But like
Speaker 1: I said, I have a had av on the show
Speaker 1: last week for Wrinkle in Time, and I was just
Speaker 1: doing some quick research before and I pulled up your
Speaker 1: IMDb it said you played the it in Wrinkle in Time. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I don't remember a voice or what was going on there.
Speaker 1: Tell me, yeah, it's it's it's purely my voice. You
Speaker 1: don't you don't see me in that. But that's also
Speaker 1: a byproduct of my pact with Ava. We've promised each
Speaker 1: other that there's not going to be a single thing
Speaker 1: she ever directs that I'm not part of. In some way,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't be a part of Wrinkling Time
Speaker 1: because I was doing a fellow in New York at
Speaker 1: the time that they were shooting. So we managed to
Speaker 1: figure it out. That's fun. I had no idea. I
Speaker 1: was like, really, I was trying to remember when it
Speaker 1: said something like it's it's in there. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: my voice has been treated, you know. But yes, I
Speaker 1: played the eat it in that. That's awesome. I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about clover Field Paradox actually, which was a
Speaker 1: very unique situation this year. I mean, which you knew
Speaker 1: it obviously as God particle. What did you think about
Speaker 1: the whole episode where suddenly Netflix has it and it's
Speaker 1: releasing after the Super Bowl? Like out of the blue? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was it out of the blue? Like, did you guys
Speaker 1: know what was gonna happen? It was completely out of
Speaker 1: the blue. We knew that. Well, first of all, go
Speaker 1: back a bit. The release date was going to be
Speaker 1: April theatrical release, and but we knew there was supposed
Speaker 1: to be a conference call with j J with all
Speaker 1: the actors on the day of the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: was actually in Minnesota to watch the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: was there with a friend who's a huge Eagles fan,
Speaker 1: and so we were there and so at eleven o'clock
Speaker 1: I think it's Central time, I was on the phone
Speaker 1: with all the other actors, including the director, And it
Speaker 1: was on that call that I found out three things.
Speaker 1: The title of the film, um, the fact that they
Speaker 1: were going to be two trailers on the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and the fact that it was going to be dropping
Speaker 1: on Netflix that night, which on the one hand just
Speaker 1: was completely surreal, but on the other hand was kind
Speaker 1: of genius, because the truth of the matter is, in
Speaker 1: this industry right now, everyone is trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how do you get people to actually watch your movie.
Speaker 1: There's just so much great stuff out there in terms
Speaker 1: of television, in terms of film, just in terms of Instagram.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I see young people literally just
Speaker 1: getting all their entertainment from that. And so I truly
Speaker 1: believe that far more people saw that film in the
Speaker 1: way that it was dropped then maybe maybe otherwise would
Speaker 1: certainly in in a theater. And so even though it
Speaker 1: was kind of surreal and surprising, I thought it was
Speaker 1: also quite genius. It is I mean, if everyone watches
Speaker 1: in my business is watching a Super Bowl to see
Speaker 1: these movie trailer ads, and it's like, oh, I can't
Speaker 1: wait to see that in six months, right if you know,
Speaker 1: either I was ready for the game to be over right,
Speaker 1: right exactly. And I know there's no film I have
Speaker 1: ever done in my entire career whereby virtually everyone I
Speaker 1: know had seen a film I did that was released
Speaker 1: within twenty four to forty eight hours of it being
Speaker 1: available to see. I mean literally everyone I knew had
Speaker 1: seen it because they were all watching the super Bowl
Speaker 1: and then they either just watched it directly after or
Speaker 1: watched it the next day. And look, you know, I
Speaker 1: I make movies in the hope that they're going to
Speaker 1: be seen. And the boy was that the case with
Speaker 1: that film? Was it actually a clover Field movie when
Speaker 1: you made it or something kind of? It was God
Speaker 1: particle and then none of this that's you know at
Speaker 1: the end, and that as far as you knew, that wasn't. No, No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't a part of it. It was
Speaker 1: as we were shooting the film that that started being introduced. Um.
Speaker 1: And you know, stealth and secrecy, as you can tell
Speaker 1: from this conversation, is just a big part of j
Speaker 1: J's modus operandi. And love that stuff. Yeah, the mystery
Speaker 1: Box is this thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and even
Speaker 1: with his collaborators. So so yeah, we we didn't know
Speaker 1: until quiet late and then that Monday we had a
Speaker 1: we've got a billboard across the street of Variety here
Speaker 1: and very next morning clover Field Paradox right there it was.
Speaker 1: It was like, it's crazy, yeah, and it's just it's
Speaker 1: just industry wise, it's interesting that, yeah, that's a movie
Speaker 1: Paramount didn't quite know what to do with. And so
Speaker 1: we're at this place now where it's kind of a
Speaker 1: double edged short. It's like, Okay, if a studio the
Speaker 1: doesn't like what they're working with, they can't figure out
Speaker 1: what to do with what they're working with, you just
Speaker 1: unloaded the Netflix. I mean, it's that worked in this
Speaker 1: instance because everyone saw it and it was a big
Speaker 1: kind of promotional event. But it kind of raises interesting
Speaker 1: questions about the future I guess, of of the business.
Speaker 1: But I think the bigger issue is the fact that
Speaker 1: because the business is so influx, what you're what you
Speaker 1: have is probably more regime change than hitherto has been
Speaker 1: the case. And I think part of what happened there
Speaker 1: was regime change. You have a new um set of leaders, headship,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, and there are films
Speaker 1: that are probably films that they wouldn't have green lit
Speaker 1: or they don't feel ownership of, or they, like you say,
Speaker 1: don't know what to do with because they weren't there
Speaker 1: from the beginning. And so there becomes a kind of
Speaker 1: I don't know, washing your hands of things. And that's
Speaker 1: not just you know, it's times of clever Field paradox.
Speaker 1: And I don't even think it was a case of
Speaker 1: washing one's hands. I just think that there is a
Speaker 1: very real um syndrome when it comes to regime change.
Speaker 1: I know, for me as a producer, one of the
Speaker 1: things you dread the most is that the person who
Speaker 1: green lit your project will be gone by the time
Speaker 1: you are either ready to go into post or marketing
Speaker 1: or the release, because you know, it's it's like suddenly
Speaker 1: one of the parents of a child is gone, and
Speaker 1: then you suddenly have someone else who's who's supposed to
Speaker 1: care for this child as much as the person who
Speaker 1: was there for its conception. Um. So that I think
Speaker 1: is is the more anxiety inducing fact of our of
Speaker 1: our business right now. A lot of people, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's musical chairs out there right now. You said
Speaker 1: you're about to start the slim as Mini and then
Speaker 1: and then you just wrapped up that's dug. I'm a
Speaker 1: movie chaos Walking that I just wanted to bring up
Speaker 1: because the synopsis is a trip. I'm going to read
Speaker 1: it a dystopian world where there are no women and
Speaker 1: all living creatures can hear each other's thoughts in a
Speaker 1: stream of images, words, and sounds called noise. So that
Speaker 1: sounds fun. Well, you know, the thing I was so
Speaker 1: taken with, and the main reason I did the film
Speaker 1: is that Conceit is a fascinating one because the reason
Speaker 1: there are no women is because men can't hear or
Speaker 1: see the thoughts of women, but women can see the
Speaker 1: thoughts and hear the thoughts of men, and so they
Speaker 1: basically decide that is an untenable situation, um and so
Speaker 1: get rid of all the women. And of course the
Speaker 1: chaos ensues when a woman enters the fray in the
Speaker 1: shape of Daisy Ridley, and hence chaos walking. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of an incredible thing to imagine, you know,
Speaker 1: especially as and this is a generalization, but you know,
Speaker 1: we all like to think that women where their emotions
Speaker 1: more openly than men do. But if you reverse that,
Speaker 1: not only are men wearing their emotions more openly, but
Speaker 1: you can hear them, you can see them. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, that just flies in the face of everything
Speaker 1: that we know to be true of how we interact
Speaker 1: with each other, and so you know, in the hands
Speaker 1: of Doug Lenman as well visually and just cinematically, it's
Speaker 1: a really really kinetic piece. Talk about working with Dog,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's obviously great action director, great drama director around.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite movie swingers. What's what's it
Speaker 1: like working with Dog? He just doesn't know how to
Speaker 1: make a bad movie. I mean, that's that's the thing
Speaker 1: with Doug. I've enjoyed all of his films, and you know,
Speaker 1: even when I talked to him before we did the film,
Speaker 1: I could just tell I was talking to someone who
Speaker 1: was incredibly cerebral. It was a bit surprising talking to
Speaker 1: him that he was an action director, because he approaches
Speaker 1: everything in a very sort of intellectual, emotional and character way,
Speaker 1: and then somehow the action comes from that. And even
Speaker 1: when you meet him or talk to him or you're
Speaker 1: around him. It's so weird that he did the born
Speaker 1: identity or Mr and Mrs Smith, and I sort of
Speaker 1: love that contradiction within him in a sense. And also
Speaker 1: the character that I get to play, Aaron, who is
Speaker 1: a very weird dude. I mean, he's this guy who
Speaker 1: I described as a religious zealot who is a byproduct
Speaker 1: of this community and absolutely believes in what he's saying
Speaker 1: and doing, but he's so out there in a sense,
Speaker 1: and so I was just fascinated by the idea of
Speaker 1: playing that character under his gaze with this Conceit give
Speaker 1: me an idea of, like, where you feel like you're
Speaker 1: at in your career, what you want to do going forward?
Speaker 1: Because it's interesting you do this comedy, you're working with
Speaker 1: dog on a movie like that, So like, do you
Speaker 1: have an ongoing mission statement, what you want to do
Speaker 1: going forward from here? What's interesting to you right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: My mission statement has always been the same and it
Speaker 1: will be the same going forward, which is that everything
Speaker 1: I do, I wanted to bring complexity to what it
Speaker 1: is to be black on planet Earth. You know I am.
Speaker 1: If I wasn't who I am, and maybe I would
Speaker 1: just go from you know, project a project, just whatever
Speaker 1: interests me or whatever. But you know, I grew up
Speaker 1: not seeing images that were reflective of my life or
Speaker 1: the complexity of my life. Certainly black people, Africans, African Americans,
Speaker 1: black Brits, you know, all people I identify with having
Speaker 1: lived in those communities and in those countries through the
Speaker 1: course of my life, and um, I want to create
Speaker 1: images for my twelve year old self, images that I
Speaker 1: think would have broadened my horizons, because I do think
Speaker 1: that this is such a powerful medium both for empathy
Speaker 1: but also for the truth of what it is to
Speaker 1: be a human being. And we've seen so much complexity
Speaker 1: and variation and beauty as it pertains to what it
Speaker 1: is to be white in the world. And UM, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm the center of my own universe, and I know
Speaker 1: that I'm just as interesting and varied as the images
Speaker 1: I've seen growing up in this medium that I so adore,
Speaker 1: and so you know that's one of my motivations as
Speaker 1: as an actor. But you know, now as I gain
Speaker 1: more of a platform, UM, an extension of that is
Speaker 1: to facilitate people who aren't like me, or who aren't me,
Speaker 1: also having their stories told. So, you know, working with
Speaker 1: female directors, directors of color, um, people who are marginalized
Speaker 1: or who are deemed minorities in any way, or just
Speaker 1: people whose stories I haven't seen told or heard. You know,
Speaker 1: that's something I feel very very passionate about. So you know,
Speaker 1: almost everything I do has something to do with that
Speaker 1: in some way. Before I let you go. I also
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you just I know you're passionate about it.
Speaker 1: Your scholarship for Nigerian girls. How's that going. It's going
Speaker 1: really really well. Were we are at five girls now?
Speaker 1: And that's something that is a deep passion in my
Speaker 1: life because of this reality that I became aware of
Speaker 1: and it seems silly recently, which is that the way
Speaker 1: to solve world poverty is to educate girls. Quite simple,
Speaker 1: you know, we we all think it's sending food packs
Speaker 1: and this, that and the other, but actually there are communities, countries,
Speaker 1: societies where if you just allowed women the same level
Speaker 1: of education, respect, opportunity platform, it would create in those communities, um,
Speaker 1: a world in which they will be able to facilitate
Speaker 1: their own forward momentum. They wouldn't need charity, they wouldn't
Speaker 1: need all these things that we in the West field
Speaker 1: we need to give them. And so um. You know,
Speaker 1: terrorist activity in Nigeria has been really targeted girls, as
Speaker 1: we know with the Chibok girls and and it's been
Speaker 1: around the issue of education. So that's something I'm really
Speaker 1: putting putting my muscle behind and I'm about to be
Speaker 1: um a girl rising Ambassador and that's an amazing um
Speaker 1: organization that basically makes content, both literature and film to
Speaker 1: educate communities about how they can empower the girls who
Speaker 1: are marginalized within their countries, and those facilities go out
Speaker 1: and and basically are changing those communities mindset and so um, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's another new thing that I'm becoming a part
Speaker 1: of because you know, I have a lovely daughter and
Speaker 1: every time I look at her, the idea that anyone
Speaker 1: would curtail her opportunity and her future is anathema to me.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of for her. Really. Well that's great man,
Speaker 1: Good luck with that. Thank you. Um, movies called Green Go,
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Speaker 1: Have a couple of margaritas before you go. It's hilarious. David, hilarious,
Speaker 1: David or Yellowell, thank you for coming on the show
Speaker 1: men really appreciate it. With the pleasure