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Speaker 3: What's up, big dog? How you doing man? Guys? I'm

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Speaker 3: joined by Cyril Ghan. What's up, Doug? You're on about

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Speaker 3: to fight for the championship? Like, how you feeling?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm feeling I'm feeling good. I'm really excited, really

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Speaker 4: focused on this Saturday.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I was watching some videos and you were wrestling.

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Speaker 2: You got like an Olympic level wrestling now, which which

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Speaker 2: was it's like a Russian guy Instagram video with the gold.

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Speaker 1: You have the gold in a in a in a.

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Speaker 4: Duo in Paris heavyweight uh l like TV waight to eleven?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly are you wrestling him straight wrestling or are you

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Speaker 2: doing mm A wrestling?

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Speaker 4: No, it was about wrestling. It was the best wrestling

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Speaker 4: he was in Hart period. I remember I did a

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Speaker 4: stage like almost pre weeks there with some some guys

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Speaker 4: like this.

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Speaker 1: It was a great experience.

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Speaker 3: You put on wrestling shoes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course the size fifteen no stupid.

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Speaker 3: Shoot, yeah, it looked like you got a small foot man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, eleven and a half. You know what size I

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Speaker 1: have you look like? You look like?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thirteen, absolutely right on the number on the number.

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Speaker 2: So you you made that a focus to go back

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Speaker 2: and just kind of work on the wrestling.

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Speaker 1: A little bit, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 4: The we did that in the harpriss Or long time ago.

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Speaker 4: But after that we did a focus on mass treking

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Speaker 4: game and at the end of the camp we did

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Speaker 4: another focus on the wrestling with some guy there in

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Speaker 4: Dubai with Macan, the champion of the one Championship.

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Speaker 1: I'm g i'mg gonna.

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Speaker 4: Fight also this Saturday with this culture Hamsi Puyah also Puah.

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Speaker 1: We did it with Puya. So with a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys like this.

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Speaker 2: What did you do a lot of your camp back

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Speaker 2: at home or did you travel more for this camp?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, travel a lot, travel a lot. I did a

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Speaker 4: big bubble, like I didn't see my family since maybe

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Speaker 4: almost three months now.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And we did a real.

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Speaker 4: Bubble, a real focus at first in Paris because in Morocco.

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Speaker 3: Now you live in Morocco.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, since uh, since this summer and uh so I

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Speaker 3: Why why did you move to Morocco?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Peaceful for the place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably like super famous non parison.

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Speaker 4: Yes, a little bit, and sometimes when you're familius that's

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Speaker 4: some good on some side.

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Speaker 3: But you can't go nowhere. You can't go to grocery.

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Speaker 1: It's not about the security.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fans like run at you.

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Speaker 4: It's not about fan, It's more about the people looking

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Speaker 2: Looking for oh yeah yeah, yeah, they got a lot

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Speaker 3: Did your watch in Morocco? They all got watches?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, in Morocco you have the safety. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you're fighting tom Aspen all this weekend, I gotta

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Speaker 2: tell you. So, there's a few things about this fight

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Speaker 2: that are very interesting. One is how people seem to

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Speaker 2: want to write off you in this fight, Like are

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Speaker 2: you surprised by how much people almost making it feel

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Speaker 2: like it's a foregone conclusion that Tom Aspernhau is gonna

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Speaker 2: win the fight this weekend.

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Speaker 4: The anfilance, I'm gonna talk about the hand films because

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Speaker 4: I finished very well, is in the very first round

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Speaker 4: or second round, and because I'm different, I like to

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Speaker 1: The good race.

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Speaker 4: So maybe the n films people like to follow. But

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Speaker 4: when you're thinking a little bit about the trench and

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Speaker 4: the weakness and the formal openent we had and all

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Speaker 4: of the big pictures, it's not going to be in

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Speaker 4: this fight.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Though, right when you look at everything, it would seem

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Speaker 2: more likely that it's a close fight opposed to a wipeout.

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Speaker 2: But the general public doesn't seem to understand that. So

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Speaker 2: I asked myself these questions when breaking on the Fight's

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Speaker 2: Tom Aspinall a bigger power threat than Derek Lewis, No,

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Speaker 2: but you finished Derek Lewis late in the fight. It's

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Speaker 2: Tom aspen All the bigger power threat than Francis and Ghanu. No,

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Speaker 2: but you fought Frances and Ganond for twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 2: So where's this idea that you're gonna get knocked out

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Speaker 2: coming from.

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Speaker 4: I don't know this is you see what are you

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Speaker 4: saying that the difference, the infreance exactly about l on media,

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Speaker 4: about the people who don't know really what is having

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Speaker 4: made the people just like to watch some videos and Okay,

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Speaker 4: this guy is the guy, is the best guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but you need a little bit more focus on it

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Speaker 4: like you did.

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Speaker 2: And the speed right, and the speed you're the one

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Speaker 2: guy in the heavyweight division that could move around with him?

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Speaker 3: Also, is this the time right?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: And I I said this publicly.

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Speaker 2: I thought that if there was a time that John

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Speaker 2: Jones should have fought Tom aspinall, it was now. Because

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Speaker 2: Tom's never fought a long fight. How does he respond

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Speaker 2: to the long fight? Is right now the perfect time

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Speaker 2: to be taking this fight because again, when you break,

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Speaker 2: when you're basing all these things.

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Speaker 3: Experience in long fights. You have that too.

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Speaker 2: So when you look at all these things that should

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Speaker 2: kind of sway the idea that the fight is going

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Speaker 2: to be much closer and maybe sway in your direction,

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Speaker 2: you have experience in all those So like, is this

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Speaker 2: the time to fight him?

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Speaker 3: Because what happens when he goes to round three for

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Speaker 3: the first time in.

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Speaker 1: His career.

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Speaker 4: Competitions exactly, so we will see. I'm not the magician

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Speaker 4: I can predict, but I know it's going to be

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Speaker 4: in my heavantage. I got really more experience in the catch,

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Speaker 4: really more experienced about the big day or so. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: but we what you said, we knew that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we knew that already since a long time ago. So

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Speaker 4: that's why I'm really excited. That's why I'm It's funny

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Speaker 4: when the people like to underestimate me. So I like

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Speaker 4: this position.

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Speaker 3: It motivates you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel that now be in your third UFC

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Speaker 2: championship is like do or die for you?

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Speaker 3: Do what like do like it's now or never for you?

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Speaker 3: Like it is now or never.

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Speaker 4: Naturally, like I'm almost thirty six, I'm not really old physically, Uh,

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Speaker 4: I'm free injury. So if you want, if I if

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Speaker 4: I got to imagine we lost this fight, maybe yeah,

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Speaker 4: next next year, after next year, I'm going to have

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Speaker 4: another chance for sure if I want. Because I'm an athletic,

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Speaker 4: I'm a competitor.

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Speaker 1: And since three years almost four, I'm in the top three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah every time.

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Speaker 1: So if I want to say on the top three,

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Speaker 1: I think I can with.

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Speaker 3: The skill set and everything. Yeah, yeah, you do. You

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Speaker 3: seem to have the type of style that would hold

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Speaker 3: up events.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, what happened? No, nothing, who's doing that? I

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Speaker 4: But she she does something with the camera behind Yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is this is.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 5: The noise is not from him, is from her.

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Speaker 2: In this career, right and becoming champion, obviously you're the

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Speaker 2: interim champion before now you're going to fight to try

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Speaker 2: to become the the lineal champion of the UFC. What

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Speaker 2: what has been the hardest part of dealing with this

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Speaker 2: whole career, right from the the ups to the downs,

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Speaker 2: the good the bad. Like, what's been the hardest part

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Speaker 2: of dealing with this career as you are on the

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Speaker 3: What once again the biggest fight of your career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the harder was again John Jones, because

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Speaker 4: we took this fight. Uh we we was not in

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Speaker 4: the good conditioning and we took this fight that five

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Speaker 4: at the very first round like this and the people,

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Speaker 4: at this time, I from I got one side of

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Speaker 1: You thought about like not being I don't give a shit.

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Speaker 4: I started this just like that at twenty eight years old.

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Speaker 4: I'm not dreaming about that at first, you see. And

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Speaker 4: after that asked me some question and I did some

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Speaker 4: focus and uh and at this time that's why I

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Speaker 4: this time something changing and uh and now I'm really

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Speaker 4: focused on one thing, to be the champion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and dispit of terms.

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Speaker 3: So who do you when you have those times here?

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Speaker 3: Or who do you lean on?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: Who do you lean on when you go through those

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Speaker 2: Because it's those moments right in those big fights where

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Speaker 2: it's the third and the fourth and the fifth and

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Speaker 2: as fucking You're like you got to kind of almost

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Speaker 2: are to have the opportunity again, Like, who do you

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Speaker 2: lean on in those moments that can actually help you

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Speaker 2: to uh kind of get you through it?

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Speaker 1: No, just my my real world. Yeah, yeah, my family,

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Speaker 4: And like, like I say, I grew up with uh

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Speaker 1: Uh I.

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Speaker 4: I I got success really quickly, but I stayed really

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Speaker 1: Uh this selled me.

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Speaker 2: Also, you see, you know you you've always kind of

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Speaker 1: I remember we.

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Speaker 2: Talked one time way back before you for France, as

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Speaker 2: we talked in Anaheim, and it was the same thing.

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Speaker 2: You were so young in this game, but you've always

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Speaker 2: had a very good head on your shoulder.

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Speaker 3: What would Saturday night mean to you? To become the

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Speaker 3: world champion?

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Speaker 2: You become the champion you here and new UFC heavyweight Champion?

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Speaker 2: What would that mean to Cyril gun?

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Speaker 4: Like? I think I'm going to be really full of this,

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Speaker 4: uh this feeling like grateful because I did a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of sacrifice, a lot of a lot

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Speaker 3: Would be amazing and.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna make me proud, proud and really happy for home. Michaels,

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Speaker 4: my friend, my family and defining friends and heavywhere.

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Speaker 1: In the world. Well, good luck this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Cyril Gun fights for the UFC Heavyweight Championship this weekend

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Speaker 2: against tom Aspertalal. Make sure you guys hit that by

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Speaker 2: button at ESPN pay per View and make sure you

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Speaker 2: go tapping everything.

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Speaker 3: Cyril's doing real good due there. Until next time, peace,