WEBVTT - Reunion Part 2 w/ Laurel Stucky

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, It's Devin.

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<v Speaker 2>Simone and I am Davon Rogers and this is MTV's

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<v Speaker 2>official Challenge podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>We are talking Reunion episode Part two.

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<v Speaker 1>So much.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm still just in shock in this moment Davon

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<v Speaker 3>about how fast Emanuel sucked down that tuna and oh, smooth,

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<v Speaker 3>my gosh, I don't even understand how that's Like I

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<v Speaker 3>want to call him right now, like I don't understand,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't understand, there's no like what on And

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<v Speaker 3>it was through a straw, and you can only go

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<v Speaker 3>so fast through a straw.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the people were still at the top. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was done.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, okay, well, you're you're not making

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<v Speaker 2>your case city better for your next season.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what happens when you make it out with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people? You know what? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but wow, well.

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<v Speaker 3>It did because that was impressed, like that he needs

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<v Speaker 3>to do some world record competition or something for that,

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<v Speaker 3>because that was skilled. Not to mention it was disgusting,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet he still did it that fast, like shout

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<v Speaker 3>out to you, yes, e man. Well, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>so much. In this reunion we're going to get into

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<v Speaker 3>most of it with our very very very special guests.

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<v Speaker 5>Woo.

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<v Speaker 3>We are so excited to have her here. But before

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<v Speaker 3>we get into that day, yes, why don't we do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Stars and Time Out A Part two of the Reunion.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? So I want to start with the timeouts?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to do multiples again? Are you? Are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be me if I was. I have to write.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl and rules. It's like they're allergic to one another. Yes, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>we're listening so funny enough.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, I only have one time out for this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll look at you, and my timeout is going to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Colleen, and I'm gonna pay with the Colleen

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<v Speaker 2>for her interaction with Nourise when they were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>who betrayed Jay so on and so forth? Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>did you hear her when she said, Nourise, you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>working against Jay, but you also weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>Working for Jay. You weren't playing a game. You weren't

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<v Speaker 1>playing a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, baby, So you're you're gonna sit on the stage

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<v Speaker 2>and say that you played your game for him?

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<v Speaker 4>That's a red building, Like what are we doing? And

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<v Speaker 4>so I really didn't like that. I didn't like that,

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<v Speaker 4>a's all.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the whole fire that got lit under her

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<v Speaker 2>for allegedly using Berna throughout the season.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, how'd you feel like that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair?

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, not Berna being petty enough to

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<v Speaker 3>like zoom in from Germany or Turkey or wherever, just

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<v Speaker 3>just to say I don't like Colleen my timeouts you

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<v Speaker 3>already know besides going to you and our group chat.

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<v Speaker 3>So you guys don't know this, but Dayan and I

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<v Speaker 3>were like going back and forth in our little text

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<v Speaker 3>chain while you were watching because it got us both hot.

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<v Speaker 3>The people who get my actual timeouts are a Calum

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<v Speaker 3>and Jay because I didn't. I just didn't like the

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<v Speaker 3>handling of it, and I didn't like the gas lighting.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, iman, well, if we're gonna talk about everybody

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<v Speaker 3>who's guilty and flirting whatever, there's a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>people on that stage, but win present at the very least,

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<v Speaker 3>even if you don't have the decency to own up

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<v Speaker 3>to it. If someone's like, hey did you do this?

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<v Speaker 3>I saw you do this, or like hey, this wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>great and you still have the balls to like try

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<v Speaker 3>and deny it or lie about it for quite some

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<v Speaker 3>time before finally like admitting or taking ownership. That just

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<v Speaker 3>irks me to my core. I feel like Callum particular

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<v Speaker 3>needs a change of direction, a change of outfit also,

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<v Speaker 3>but just like a change of direction.

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<v Speaker 1>In his approach here not cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I do think anyone who chooses to stay

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<v Speaker 3>with either of those gentlemen at this point, they know

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<v Speaker 3>what they're getting into, so like it's on them, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just trash behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't settle for friends people who don't at the

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<v Speaker 3>very least just own up to We all make mistakes

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<v Speaker 3>like fine, but at least like own up to it.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that was working My last nerve. Now, if

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<v Speaker 3>we are going to go to gold Star, there are

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<v Speaker 3>a couple contenders. One I'd say that is surprisingly an

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<v Speaker 3>honorable mention was James.

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<v Speaker 1>James.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we got to see a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a funny side. I also said last week. I

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<v Speaker 3>liked he looked great in that suit, like it was

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<v Speaker 3>fitting him well. But I like that he because we

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<v Speaker 3>saw kind of an arrogant James all season. I liked

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<v Speaker 3>that he had a little self deprecating humor in this

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<v Speaker 3>episode right, like he was kind of like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I was a little beac you like cool? Like that

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<v Speaker 3>means you don't take yourself too seriously, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately it's fun. We all do dumb things, so like

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<v Speaker 3>I really respected that. Also again Laurel holding people's feet

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<v Speaker 3>to the fire, like I very much appreciated that. And

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<v Speaker 3>then Nourise, Nourice just handled all the attacks, all the

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<v Speaker 3>things with such grace and that couldn't be easy to do.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have to give her my gold star. What

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<v Speaker 3>about you, Dan?

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<v Speaker 4>I definitely agree on Nourice. I think in.

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<v Speaker 2>The situation that she was put in and having her

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<v Speaker 2>friends air quotes up there and knowing what they did

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<v Speaker 2>to her this season and how she had navigate that

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<v Speaker 2>and then to have to see them and be here

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<v Speaker 2>and you live it, and it's just like and do

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<v Speaker 2>it without her? Man dare to hold her hand because

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<v Speaker 2>when you really think about it, all she really had

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<v Speaker 2>on that stage was raven from what we saw all

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<v Speaker 2>to comfort, which is just.

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<v Speaker 3>So easy to see how change life jus at you fast,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know a season ago they were opposite yelling

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<v Speaker 3>at each other, and here you have that's like the

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<v Speaker 3>one person truly in your corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's wild, But ultimately, I'm going to give my

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<v Speaker 2>gold stars Starna, break it out gonna be, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give it to the trio.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna give it to the trio. I thought I

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<v Speaker 4>was gonna say Callum.

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<v Speaker 1>I was worried for a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, she's just gonna try and irk my

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<v Speaker 3>last nerve and she's gonna get it to Calum.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it, but no, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna give it to him because he started crying.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm going to give my gold Star to the

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<v Speaker 2>trio of Corey, Melissa and Big T. And the reason

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give it to them is because we

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<v Speaker 2>got an opportunity to see from whatever the edit was,

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<v Speaker 2>but firsthand, we got a chance to see like literal

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<v Speaker 2>growth on stage. You get what I'm saying, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>starting awful. You'll you'll, you'll arguing and going back and forth,

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<v Speaker 2>and then by the end of it it was, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you had me blocked, so I couldn't unblock you, and

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<v Speaker 2>well I didn't mean to do that to you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you can you know what I'm saying, And

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<v Speaker 2>I forgive you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was earth like, it was just yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was so good to see. So I'm gonna give my

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<v Speaker 2>star to those three.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and that's what we like to see. And can

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<v Speaker 3>we just say too for for people who want to

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<v Speaker 3>DM me the other day being like how can I

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<v Speaker 3>get on the challenge? My goal is to be on

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<v Speaker 3>the show and TV if you make it on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And for those who are already on the show, this

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<v Speaker 3>also this goes for challengers, It also goes for people

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<v Speaker 3>in Real Housewives, namely Potomac in Atlanta, but anyway in

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<v Speaker 3>Salt Lake City. But being able, you're not gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>along with everyone, right, They're gonna be knockout, drag out

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<v Speaker 3>feuds and moments, but recognizing that, like, it's more entertaining

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<v Speaker 3>if you can find a common ground at a certain

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<v Speaker 3>point and move forward than holding it for twelve seasons

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<v Speaker 3>or twelve years or I mean even think about like

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<v Speaker 3>Bananas and ct now and where they are and we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really get to see them play much together in

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<v Speaker 3>Traders because of Dan, but in general, like seeing where

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<v Speaker 3>they are that's fun, Like that growth, that dynamic is

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<v Speaker 3>like cool. And so to your point, watching Corey Melissa

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<v Speaker 3>and Big Tea. They were still very much at odds

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<v Speaker 3>and they probably still i'm sure, have their challenges, but

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<v Speaker 3>to see them kind of be playful about it by

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<v Speaker 3>the end was really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good to see me and yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Stuck the big toe in the water. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>They did. They did.

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<v Speaker 3>They stuck their big toe in the water, and we

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<v Speaker 3>are going to stick our big toe, our ankles, knees,

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<v Speaker 3>elbows all up.

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<v Speaker 1>In the water. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a weird transition, all up in the water

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<v Speaker 3>with our special guest. Now, she has been called the goats,

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<v Speaker 3>and I would say I'd have to agree. I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>her in action. I have climbed a volcano with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Granted she was probably about three hours ahead of me,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's fine. We were on the volcano together and

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<v Speaker 3>we are excited to get her to weigh in on

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<v Speaker 3>part two of three, and we are talking about none

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<v Speaker 3>other than our girl Laurel. So do some exercises. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, maybe drink a beat in tuna.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll grow up while listening to this podcast. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>why TJ maah. Do whatever you need to do, but

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<v Speaker 3>don't go anywhere because right after this, we have Laurel on.

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<v Speaker 1>A podcast, whoop.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Challenge fam in the building. We have an icon.

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<v Speaker 3>We have someone that Tory and Kara both agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>And y'all know they don't agree on anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the goat when it comes to female challengers. She's

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<v Speaker 3>done seven Challenge seasons. She is a Challenge Champion. She

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<v Speaker 3>is Louie the Dog's mama. She's a veterinarian, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Please give it up for Laurel. Woo hi, doctor Laurel.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>We can now?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yeah, I just I'm not good with this technical shit.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, Devin.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>We can I just first say part one of the

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<v Speaker 3>reunion and also part two. Yeah, you had Day and

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<v Speaker 3>I both cracking the heck up. You were freaking hilarious,

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<v Speaker 3>like I can't even so funny and just your liners

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<v Speaker 3>and coming at it like that reunion needed you.

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<v Speaker 1>So glad that you were there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thank you so much. Yeah, you know those are

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<v Speaker 5>fun to film. This one was an ansterdam can't complain.

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<v Speaker 5>We just had like such a blast outside of those

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<v Speaker 5>filming days, which are really long and really arduous, and

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think anybody that hasn't been on the show

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<v Speaker 5>will ever understand the amount of time and energy put

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<v Speaker 5>into those days and then they only show, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was thinking to myself, well, how many

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<v Speaker 3>hours was it do you think like each day that

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<v Speaker 3>you were following?

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<v Speaker 5>I got there one of the days, I got there

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<v Speaker 5>at eleven and we didn't, you know, probably like twelve

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<v Speaker 5>hour on the first day, and then the next day

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<v Speaker 5>maybe even like fourteen. Because the first day, my hair

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<v Speaker 5>and makeup I did not come. I was stressed out

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<v Speaker 5>because I need a little bit more time to adjust,

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<v Speaker 5>like you're flying from a different time zone, and then

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<v Speaker 5>they throw you into filming and I just didn't feel

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<v Speaker 5>like comfortable. I was like jet lagged, you know, and

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<v Speaker 5>so my hair and makeup I didn't do a very

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<v Speaker 5>good job of communicating what I wanted to the team,

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<v Speaker 5>and I felt very rushed. So the next day they

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<v Speaker 5>brought me in at like seven am instead of eleven am,

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<v Speaker 5>because I think that they know that for the most part,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't really give a shit like what I look

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<v Speaker 5>like on TV, which I should, because I look back

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<v Speaker 5>at myself and I'm like, oh my god, my first

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<v Speaker 5>thought is you're disgusting. But then like I just I

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<v Speaker 5>let it go, like very quickly. But like the second

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<v Speaker 5>day was a little bit better, more relaxed, and then

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<v Speaker 5>also like balancing the energy of everybody because they're sad,

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<v Speaker 5>they're upset, they're angry, they're pissed, they're this, they're scared there,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and that's a lot to go through when

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<v Speaker 5>you're like walking into rooms and so yeah, it's a lot,

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<v Speaker 5>like the whole reality TV world is a lot, to

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<v Speaker 5>be honest with you, it's also at the same time,

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<v Speaker 5>like you can't complain because we went to Amsterdam and

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<v Speaker 5>had a.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeast, right, wait did you go to the red light district?

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<v Speaker 5>We did?

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<v Speaker 1>Who all went? Who all in the group went?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>It was me and Melissa, and then I do believe

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<v Speaker 5>it was Devin. There might have been a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>other people there. And then like it's so cool, It's

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<v Speaker 5>so stupid because when I lived in Europe when I

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<v Speaker 5>was younger for a study abroad, I thought that I

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<v Speaker 5>went to the red light district because when you because

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<v Speaker 5>I saw a red light and then now going back,

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<v Speaker 5>I saw the naked girls and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 5>did my little naive as did not go to the

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<v Speaker 5>red light district. I saw a red light and I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, here it is red light.

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<v Speaker 1>You're hilarious. I I'm not with you, that is so.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, is the red light district where you and

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<v Speaker 3>Melissa sparked your spark because we definitely saw a picture

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<v Speaker 3>on your ig recently of you two canoodling in bed

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<v Speaker 3>under the covers.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's Melissa and I clicked immediately. Not in the

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<v Speaker 5>red light district, but just like when you come to

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<v Speaker 5>the studio. She she said to me, you know, she

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<v Speaker 5>was like, you know, I don't want you to hate

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<v Speaker 5>me for what happened with Nicole. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>I would never hate you ever, Like everything that ever

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<v Speaker 5>happens when like there's a cheater or a liar or

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<v Speaker 5>somebody who is you know, doing disrespect to the person

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<v Speaker 5>that you're in a relationship with, I would never hate you.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually thought you were gorgeous, like aside from that,

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<v Speaker 5>and like, you know, like I thought you were the

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<v Speaker 5>most gorgeous one there. So of course she's gonna go

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<v Speaker 5>after you, you know what I'm saying. But I never

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<v Speaker 5>hated you, and so so that like kind of bonded us,

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<v Speaker 5>I think, and probably the fact that I said that

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<v Speaker 5>she's gorgeous, you know, like softened her up, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think we just clicked. And you know, I ended up

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<v Speaker 5>staying with her and Big Tea in their hotel after

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<v Speaker 5>the reunion, and so then we clicked even more. On

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<v Speaker 5>top of that, you're you're getting to know people on

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<v Speaker 5>a personal level that you really weren't able to know

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<v Speaker 5>them prior to that, other than just hearing their name,

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<v Speaker 5>like in the same vein as you. Davon, Like, I

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<v Speaker 5>like you a lot, and I love like how you're

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<v Speaker 5>a whipper snapper. You say what you want, you like

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<v Speaker 5>put people in their place, and you know it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's the same type of thing where you like like

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<v Speaker 5>someone and then you meet them and then it's like

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<v Speaker 5>you like them even more, right, ye?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>But is that how y'all ended up in bed together?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I get you're meeting Davon right now, but there

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<v Speaker 3>are pictures of YouTube posts bed, but there's pictures of you.

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<v Speaker 1>A romantic thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, we were just we were just

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<v Speaker 5>laying in bed and I guess uh Tory took some picture,

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<v Speaker 5>but we were all in the room we were.

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<v Speaker 3>All okay, okay, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Mean she's hot, Like I said, girls hot.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, So wait Laura now doctor Laura being okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So wait, have you guys or would you go on

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<v Speaker 3>a date?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't know. I haven't talked in depth

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<v Speaker 5>about what Melissa wants and you know, uh, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>be a I don't know. I haven't really thought of that.

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<v Speaker 5>I because of right now, I like Melissa a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that she's a beautiful human being from you know,

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<v Speaker 5>just like I said, like, you get close so quick?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Saying like, I don't know why we do that. Why

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<v Speaker 5>do we get close so quick? We like share all

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<v Speaker 5>our secrets, like when you like someone, you're like, here's

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<v Speaker 5>my life story, here's what I've been through, here's the hardships,

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<v Speaker 5>and then and then you're just like.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people call it trauma dumping, but yes, that is that.

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<v Speaker 3>We do do that, and I think in the challenge

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<v Speaker 3>environment it fosters because you guys have this unique bond,

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<v Speaker 3>right like, having gone through whether you competed on the

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<v Speaker 3>same season or not, you still it's this.

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<v Speaker 1>Little world, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's sort of different in that way, but We're

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<v Speaker 3>so excited to see you back in here. I know

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<v Speaker 3>Day has questions about the reunion. I have questions about

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<v Speaker 3>the reunion. So much was going on it was starting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a lot going There was a lot, and

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<v Speaker 3>actually this reunion even brought out it tested Day and

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<v Speaker 3>I were getting in a heated debate.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll get to that because we love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>your take.

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<v Speaker 3>Laurcs you there, But let's start with Aesop and Kylin fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what was it like to be in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>You're sitting with the other champions with the vets and

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<v Speaker 3>you're seeing this pop off? Like what was that whole

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<v Speaker 3>vibe and energy? Were you guys? Were you worried in

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<v Speaker 3>that moment? Did you really think something was going to happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Were you kind of rolling your eyes like these people

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<v Speaker 3>are stupid like visuals?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Nah, that was like that was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>that was like a puppy quarrel in the freaking pen.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know what I'm saying, You're like, break it up,

0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.520
<v Speaker 5>break it up, cuties, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>that's not a serious that's not a serious situation where

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<v Speaker 5>anywhere you're like scared for anyone, because neither of them

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<v Speaker 5>are particularly you know, aggressive appearing, and I think that

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<v Speaker 5>they would keep it kind of clean. Kyland did actually

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<v Speaker 5>like buck Up more than I anticipated. I was like, interesting,

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<v Speaker 5>there might be like some hardness there, which was funny

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<v Speaker 5>because you know, you like I see Kyland as like

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<v Speaker 5>this harmless, you know, like kind of light easy, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like he's he's really non intrusive when you're in a

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<v Speaker 5>room with him, like he he is able to have

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<v Speaker 5>intelligible conversations. I do think that, you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of times when when we get people from foreign countries,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a there is a language barrier, right like, like

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<v Speaker 5>because I've experienced it myself from speaking Spanish with people

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<v Speaker 5>with that that are from Spanish speaking countries. I say

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<v Speaker 5>something I think I'm saying one thing, turns out I'm

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<v Speaker 5>saying I love you by accident, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 5>like and like like I'm in love with you or whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>and uh so I feel like that's like part of

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<v Speaker 5>where that came from, like the root of that evil.

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<v Speaker 5>And then also like Kylon's defending Melissa, so he's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>defend Melissa, you know, wholeheartedly. And then Asof. I know

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<v Speaker 5>Asof was having a little bit of trouble because he

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<v Speaker 5>did actually come up to me at one point and

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<v Speaker 5>he was like, how do you do this, Laurel, Like

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<v Speaker 5>how do you do this? And I know it's rough,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like they're new and they don't understand this.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, like this shit ain't easy and right and

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<v Speaker 5>and it's true. And that's what makes it so difficult

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<v Speaker 5>to win the challenge is because you know, you have

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<v Speaker 5>to deal with these things in these situations that you're

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<v Speaker 5>never really in a normal situation gonna gonna get into

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<v Speaker 5>something like that with somebody, and and multi times in

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<v Speaker 5>one day. So I think Astof was having just a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of like trouble with it, like dealing with

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<v Speaker 5>everybody kind of going in on him, because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>just Kylind that was going in on him, it was

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<v Speaker 5>Melissa that was going in on him. It was you know,

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<v Speaker 5>people were kind of like shitting on Himdurell went in

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<v Speaker 5>on him a little bit, you know, And and so

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<v Speaker 5>I think he was having a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 5>hard time, if you want, like a little bit of

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<v Speaker 5>behind the scenes what I think. And then I was

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<v Speaker 5>I was a little surprised, you know, by Kylon and

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<v Speaker 5>and his buck up there, because I was like, oh damn,

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<v Speaker 5>like maybe he could, you know, maybe he could bring

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<v Speaker 5>in a little bit in that arena, which I you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he doesn't, he doesn't. His first impression is.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And do you know Kylin, yes a day, what

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<v Speaker 1>are yours? Like, what are your thoughts on what you

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<v Speaker 1>know about Kylon and then seeing him kind of buck

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<v Speaker 1>up like that in Kylie.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, Kyli can definitely get active in the arena for sure. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>even on Big Brother when he got ready to get

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<v Speaker 2>evicted him and another place inside of the house, we're

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<v Speaker 2>about to get into it.

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<v Speaker 4>So Kylin is he's definitely with it. He's just I

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<v Speaker 4>think he has him as a person.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those situations where if you don't bother me,

0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I won't bother you, but if you knuck, please believe

0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to buck It's one of those situations, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that's that's my view on Kylin, like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>mess with me and it won't be a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's a sweet and kind guy like across.

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<v Speaker 3>From yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. What was the most shocking

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<v Speaker 3>part of the reunion for you, Laurel.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna say, uh, I'm gonna damn. My first thought.

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<v Speaker 5>My first thought is to say that Melissa and Big

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<v Speaker 5>T come out in literally matching dresses and matching.

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<v Speaker 3>Crowds, mashing dresses and gowns, and then those like we've

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<v Speaker 3>store tiaras, and I know you haven't been to a

0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.159
<v Speaker 3>wig store, probably Laura. But when you go to the

0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.359
<v Speaker 3>weaves store, there are some things you can always count on.

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<v Speaker 3>Some lip bomb, okay at the checkout, some eyelashes. They're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have a whole row of eyelashes that you can

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<v Speaker 3>get on the cheap. Probably some nail polates somewhere. And

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<v Speaker 3>then some tiaras, like some Kingsaniera or wedding trs in

0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.800
<v Speaker 3>a case that you can buy, but they're covered in plastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Those were the tiaras that the girls were rocking on

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<v Speaker 1>this union. So, yeah, what did you think of their

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<v Speaker 1>their twindom look?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh god, I loved it. I just thought it was classic.

0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:24.800
<v Speaker 5>I was like, they are just like superstars, Like look

0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.160
<v Speaker 5>at them, you know what I'm saying. I was just like, ah,

0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:29.240
<v Speaker 5>they're just a sight, you know. It's just I was like,

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.280
<v Speaker 5>I just loved it. They had these sunglasses too that

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<v Speaker 5>they would put on and Melissa actually fell asleep for

0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:39.399
<v Speaker 5>a period and they were like, meltsop, wake up, wake up,

0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:43.359
<v Speaker 5>Melissa up. It was hilarious. It was just it was

0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 5>very entertaining, especially because like some of these fights can

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<v Speaker 5>really drag on and you're like, oh, you wrap it up,

0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:53.520
<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So they they did.

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<v Speaker 5>They just really brought like a lightness, which I enjoy

0:20:58.080 --> 0:20:59.720
<v Speaker 5>because and that's why I enjoy a lot of the

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:04.600
<v Speaker 5>people from from the from Britain, because they just really

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:06.520
<v Speaker 5>lighten it up, you know, like they know how to

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<v Speaker 5>somehow turn something heavy into something that feels like a

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 5>little bit like more easy and loose, you know, like

0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:15.520
<v Speaker 5>like it said, it can it can get really like.

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<v Speaker 1>Get heavy, you really.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought James did a good job of that actually,

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<v Speaker 3>because seeing James, yeah say that he turned it like

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.639
<v Speaker 3>I gained a level of respect for James because I

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<v Speaker 3>liked the accountability he took there.

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<v Speaker 1>But he instead of fighting, he was like I became

0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:29.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a.

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<v Speaker 3>Bitch this season, and like that was such a departure

0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:36.359
<v Speaker 3>from how he behaved throughout the season. So to see

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<v Speaker 3>him sort of be self deprecating and and like own

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.520
<v Speaker 3>it was funny. It just like so needed in that moment,

0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 3>I thought, and pretty funny.

0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, yeah, I feel like on this reunion, Laurel,

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:53.080
<v Speaker 2>you were like the mother, like you were the voice

0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.840
<v Speaker 2>of reason, right, like the voice of like calm down,

0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.320
<v Speaker 2>get go, sit in the corner, be quiet, don't do this,

0:21:58.520 --> 0:21:59.720
<v Speaker 2>put that down.

0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Even took your shoes off, like.

0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:05.560
<v Speaker 2>At any given second, anybody can get popped like you.

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 4>Yes, literally, you were the mother of the reunion.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to know what is your read what

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:16.240
<v Speaker 2>read do you have on your children these competitors of

0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.880
<v Speaker 2>this season, Like what is your overall opinion of these

0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 2>particular challengers.

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, I think they're great. I love Raven. I think

0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:29.760
<v Speaker 5>Nourice handled herself really well because she's gonna she's gonna flip.

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:31.680
<v Speaker 5>She's gonna flip on a bitch, you know what I'm saying,

0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:33.600
<v Speaker 5>Like she's gonna tell you what she thinks. And she's

0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:35.680
<v Speaker 5>gonna tell you in the bronx way too. She ain't

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.639
<v Speaker 5>she ain't bumping around like and I like that, Like

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 5>I like that sharp tongue, and she actually like opened

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:46.520
<v Speaker 5>herself up to be more vulnerable because she doesn't like

0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 5>to do that, and so I was proud of her

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:55.240
<v Speaker 5>for that. And then I uh, we were all sitting

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.119
<v Speaker 5>at all the champs were sitting on the couch just

0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:01.200
<v Speaker 5>staring at James being like and Dureaux was constantly saying

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.479
<v Speaker 5>because James he was in another world. He was like

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.119
<v Speaker 5>sitting there like kind of laid back, like staring, you know,

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:11.880
<v Speaker 5>like zoning out, and constantly Dall will be like, wonder

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.440
<v Speaker 5>what James thinks about this argument with Kylond.

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 1>And oh, that's hilarious. Darrell would do something like that.

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Darrell loves to just like instigate, like to just poke

0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:20.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 5>That's so good, so good, and and yeah, like I

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 5>just honestly like as a as a challenge, you know,

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.880
<v Speaker 5>legend in our own right, once said Paula Walnuts. You know,

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 5>we are all getting only older and uglier, so it's

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 5>time for these new ones to rise up, you know,

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 5>like show me out. Like so it's true, you know,

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 5>like I'm phasing out of this show, and you know,

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 5>I have a life and I've always had one, but

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.159
<v Speaker 5>like it's nice to see some new people come in.

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 5>And we saw some real We saw some real heartache,

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 5>we saw some real love, we saw some like and

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 5>I was proud of them at the end, Like you know,

0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 5>the the chunk of them that were at the end

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:03.360
<v Speaker 5>Zara Mariah James, Like those are actually like the stars,

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying. And it was over the

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 5>beginning part of the season was slow to like burn, right,

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 5>but then when you got to the end and you

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.400
<v Speaker 5>see these people, it's like, Okay, these are the people

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 5>that are gonna bring it. And I was really happy

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 5>about that because I love Ravens specifically. I saw like

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 5>star power in her immediately because she just she's oblivious

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 5>and that's the best thing about her.

0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Like they call her Dory, that's her nickname.

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, have you heard it, which is so

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 3>funny because she is like she does have she's really

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:33.160
<v Speaker 3>smart with thinks. She'll have these moments of like huh

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 3>what like where Yeah, but she's.

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:39.439
<v Speaker 5>Also stunning, stunning. Her thighs are just gonna literally she

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 5>could crush her head with her thighs. Okay, So she's

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:45.199
<v Speaker 5>an athlete. Not only that, she came out on the

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 5>first challenge she ever did bake the wind like took

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 5>it like straight up kicked my ass. Like I like, granted,

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 5>I just got out of veterinary school and I was

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 5>like I hadn't worked out for four years, but still

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 5>she kicked everyone's ass. I was like, super proud to

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 5>see that, because not only do I want to see

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 5>someone who's beautiful, genuine, I want to see somebody who's

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 5>gonna fucking bring it in competition. And Raven brought that,

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 5>and so I was like we got to like, you know,

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 5>like these people, these I'm glad, you know, Like also,

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 5>it's it sucks because you know, they had to like

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 5>remove the champs from the from the picture in order

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 5>for them to be able to shine. But you know,

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 5>at the end of the day, it's a good thing,

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, because now we got some new characters that

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 5>can you know, bring some flavor to the show.

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, some seasoning.

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 2>We wanted some seasoning, just to just add a little

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 2>bit of seasoning, you know.

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 4>I would love to know. When they called you and

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 4>they said, hey, laure how do you feel about coming

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:46.679
<v Speaker 4>in being a mercenary.

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 5>I was like, cool, free trip to Croatia. I'm in baby, Yes.

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:53.399
<v Speaker 4>I love that.

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 4>You didn't have any thoughts like, oh, you know, I

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 4>don't know.

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 5>No, I did. Actually they had to call me like

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 5>multiple times, and then they had to get like the

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:02.640
<v Speaker 5>exec to call me because I was like.

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.679
<v Speaker 1>Why were you hesitanting? What was it that made you

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>go about it?

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm just always like just always a little hesitant, honestly,

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 5>like because it's a strenuous thing. Yeah, yeah, that's really

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 5>the honest answer. Like it's it's hard for me, you know,

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 5>like I may come across as tough and you know,

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 5>a robot like you once said, you know, but like

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 5>that is really just an exterior to protect myself because

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.360
<v Speaker 5>it's very hard for me to be there. It's very

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:36.679
<v Speaker 5>hard for me to maneuver socially, you know, like getting

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 5>attacked at any at any given moment is difficult. I mean,

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 5>you know it, Devan, You saw how much I get attacked,

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 5>and it's hard for me to take that. And I

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 5>just stay silent. I do what I can. I I

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 5>internalized it, I shut down, and I become that robot

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 5>because of those reasons. Yeah, So I'm always has a

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 5>tent beforehand because I'm like, what position are they going

0:26:59.920 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 5>to put me in now? Because you know, you know,

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 5>they want to put you in a position that is difficult.

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 5>It's called the challenge for a reason, and they do

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 5>that specifically, so so I'm just always like a little

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 5>bit on guard.

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:15.679
<v Speaker 6>But then you know, they they just it ended up

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 6>being fine and I had a really good time, and

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 6>that's usually a lot of times what happens.

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 5>But I'm always just a little bit like standoffish.

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I think there are just so many sides.

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 3>But I feel like your ability to compartmentalize, even if

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 3>it's whether it's healthy or not, is part of what

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 3>makes you the female goat, because you do. You go

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 3>in to any sort of challenge, daily elimination, and it's

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 3>like if someone's near, they can just see the switch

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 3>and it is like, oh, hell, Laurel is in Like

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Laurel is in gay mode, and it's so cool seeing

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 3>you in gay mode. But then seeing you with Louie,

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 3>your dog, and like knowing your vet, Like there's this

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 3>whole other, complete softy side to that not everyone gets

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 3>to see that like makes her this sort of like

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.719
<v Speaker 3>well rounded magnetic person that you are.

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>So I've always had a soft spot for.

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 3>You and I've always loved you, and it's not just

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 3>because you didn't put me at the top of your

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 3>hit list.

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>All those years ago that I was further down the list.

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 3>But there are other reasons now watching everything that was

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 3>like going on on the stage. So one thing that

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 3>both Day and I agreed on that we love seeing

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 3>was you jump in to defend and stand by Michelle,

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 3>especially despite your history, given that Michelle clearly felt blindsided by,

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, the feeling she had for Calum. Can you

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 3>speak a little bit to how you were feeling in

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 3>that room kind of? I'm sure there was more of

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 3>that argument and debate that was happening that we didn't

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 3>get to see.

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, tell us a little bit about that.

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 5>The history would me and Callum goes back years. Yeah,

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 5>I did X on the peak and he was on

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 5>that and supporting a voisterous, loud cheater like you know,

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 5>proud of herself cheating you know then that would be

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 5>Nicole and and so you know, knowing that he supports cheaters,

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 5>and knowing that he supports liars already and then seeing

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 5>what he did to Michelle years later, I'm thinking to myself,

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 5>you have not changed one bit, not one bit, not once.

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 5>Have you looked at the inside of what's going on.

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 5>You're hurting your girlfriend that you know you said wasn't

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 5>your girlfriend? Now is your girlfriend?

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 6>Now?

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 5>You want to protect her? Now, No, you're trying to

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 5>protect yourself. You only care about yourself. So I just

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 5>I straight up clocked him, and like they don't show

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 5>all of it, and it made me mad. That shit

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 5>makes me mad because I've also been cheated on Hunt,

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 5>like multiple times by the same person, and you give

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 5>them the benefit of the doubt and you get taken

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 5>advantage of and and with Michelle, like yeah, I may

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.479
<v Speaker 5>not like really want to be her friend, but at

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 5>the same time, that doesn't take away from the fact

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 5>that what he did to her was And I'm going

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 5>to stand up for a woman that, like I believe needs,

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 5>like I just that's that's the way I am, and

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 5>and so and so I stood up for her, and

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 5>I really yelled at him and like what they you know,

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 5>like the night prior, I actually lit into him so bad,

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 5>Like we we got into a in the hotel. Everyone

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 5>was sitting at a table and and it just came

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 5>out like I can't hold it back. And then he

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 5>also came out the next day on the show as well,

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 5>and I guess the show loves it, you know, because

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll defend the I always say Nicole,

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 5>I'll defend Michelle, and and uh, it's just because like

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 5>whatever whatever it is, like, it's not like I have

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 5>bad blood towards her. I just really she just irritates me.

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 5>Like she does these things that like, for example, Mariah

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 5>is my friend and we developed a relationship on thirty

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 5>nine and that we became friends in real life outside

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 5>of the show, and we've been through a few things

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 5>that have you know, involved forgiveness and all these things,

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 5>and it's been it's been a it's been a really

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 5>great friendship for me, me and Mariah. Mariah is also

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 5>friends with Michelle, and Michelle really wants to be my friend,

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 5>I guess because Michelle keeps telling Mariah to message me

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 5>and say like good things about like I you know,

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 5>like media, you know, and I'm just saying, I'm a

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 5>type of person that's like, leave me the fuck alone.

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 5>Do you know what I'm saying, Leave me the fuck alone?

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 5>And if I want to, you know, like it's just

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 5>if you have too much pressure. Yeah, And then she'll

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 5>say little weird things like this that I don't like

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 5>she'll tell Mariah Laurel blocked me on Instagram? Can you

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 5>please tell her to unblock me? Because I really And

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 5>then I'm like, I didn't block you. I don't, I

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 5>don't follow you. I didn't block you. Like you're going

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 5>cuckoo in the head. Like, So to me, it's like,

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 5>is she making that up? Is that strategic? Is she

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 5>trying to play the game? I'm just off on it,

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 5>and I'm like get back, and she won't. And I

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 5>just feel like she won't leave me alone. Like one

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 5>night we were filling the room, she shows up on

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 5>my hotel door. I'm like, go up, like you know

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying, like, let me be, let me be.

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Like I think you guys have different attachment styles. She

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 3>has anxious attachment style. You have avoidant. When she's on

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 3>the podcast, she actually did say good things about you

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 3>as well. I don't think it's fully strategic. I think

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 3>she's anxious to be liked and she's admitted that too

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 3>and so, but you are the complete opposite. So the

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 3>more she pushes, the more you are like, get the

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 3>heck away, and then it becomes this thing. I'm optimistic

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 3>that one day you guys actually will be, at least

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 3>on a friendly term, consider each other friends. Because I

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 3>think there are certain things when it comes to leadership,

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 3>and I think Michelle showed that this season. I think

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 3>there are certain similarities, like when it comes to like

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 3>the ability to kind of like stand your ground and lead.

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I do think that there's some similarities there. But I

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 3>think her anxious attachment.

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Style is like it. I think it not mix after well,

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>but I think Laurel is a.

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Little like me in a sense of let me do

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>it when I'm ready to talk, let me do it,

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 2>let me come to you, let me do it.

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, we have to take a quick break, but

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll be right back after this.

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Okay, let's get back to the show.

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Going back to that callum thing.

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 3>So that's where Davon and I were having a very

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 3>heated debate about because it felt like watching it. Look,

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 3>I am all for giving people grace and space to grow,

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 3>because we all do. And there's nothing like a reality

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 3>show that was filmed years ago to be able to

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 3>watch back and be like, oh, I wouldn't do that now,

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 3>or I wouldn't say that now, or I've learned things

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 3>like all for that, But I am not for people

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 3>gaslighting others or not taking accountability. I am not for

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 3>participation trophies. And my mom says, to no better is

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 3>to do better. And you're a grown adult. You manage

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 3>to get yourself on a plane to wherever else. You

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 3>know when something's hurting someone, and the way you know

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 3>that the tabvious is when you hide from taking accountability.

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 3>And I felt like Callum was only finally taking accountability

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 3>because you lit into his ass and because he felt

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of back into a corner. And Davon is texting

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 3>in our group chat like, oh, well he finally, and

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, he knows.

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Better what I said.

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:20.280
<v Speaker 4>Let me say what I said.

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I said to me on that stage, there are a

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 2>lot of grown children, So I said, age does not

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 2>make you an adult, and there are still some people

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 2>on that stage that are growing. And I didn't know

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing about him being years of defending a cheater.

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know anything about that.

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>But what I did see was we are in a

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 2>society where men do not cry.

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.839
<v Speaker 4>They're if frowned upon, it's considered weak, it's considered men

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 4>don't do that.

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 2>So when I see a man sit on the stage

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 2>and he starts crying based on what's going I don't

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 2>care if he's being backed up against the wall. He's

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 2>showing some vulnerability. He's showing that I am affected in

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 2>a certain kind of way. So no, Devin said, basically,

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 2>throw him in the trash. I'm never gonna throw him

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 2>in a trash for.

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Them, I throw that example in the trash. And also,

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 3>more and more men are crying. Emotional intelligence is but

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 3>it's now. And he was crying there, not because he

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 3>was remorseful. He was crying because he got backed into

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 3>a corner.

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 4>And that's fine. Sometimes that's what it takes. Sometimes it

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 4>takes for a fire to be lit under you. I

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 4>just forget it. You understand what I'm saying, Laurel. Sometimes

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 4>it takes that.

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.359
<v Speaker 3>We'll see how he behaves in the future, and we

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.280
<v Speaker 3>will forever agree to disagree.

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 4>What you think, Laurel, will she lit up?

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Lit him up? Which is exactly what I would.

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, now that I have had this conversation, how

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 2>do you feel about it?

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 5>So, so I see what both of you are saying.

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 5>I do believe that it so I do agree with you.

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 5>Davon he is a child. He's a boy. I shouldn't

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 5>say child, he's a boy and he's he. There's there's

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.439
<v Speaker 5>a certain element to reality television where you can say

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 5>a boy forever, you can say a boy forever. Because

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 5>this guy is famous in the UK. He's famous in

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 5>the UK. I'm not going to take that away from him.

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 5>But also, I don't give a fuck about same. I

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.800
<v Speaker 5>could take it and I could fucking leave it because

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 5>I have a life and so this is not my life,

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:10.280
<v Speaker 5>and that, I think is what makes the real world

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 5>people different. Even though I was never on the real world.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 5>I was gonna be on real world Brooklyn, you know,

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 5>and like, so, you know, I just feel like that's

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 5>what makes us a little bit different than them, because

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:25.280
<v Speaker 5>we never I didn't really want same, did you know. Yes,

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 5>the point the foundation of who we are is we

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 5>get real. So yes, I'm gonna fucking light his ass

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 5>on fire. I don't give a fuck that you're famous

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.720
<v Speaker 5>in the UK. And that's what everybody was kind of saying.

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 5>Even James came up to me afterwards and Callum was

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 5>really affected by what I said, And it was probably

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 5>more so humiliation because no one's ever talked to him

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 5>like that because he's callum from whatever, and I don't care,

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 5>and so that is why I let into like lit

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 5>him up. And also just because I've had personal experience

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 5>with being lied to, being cheated on, it's wrong. I'm

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 5>never gonna not say it's wrong. I don't give a

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 5>fuck that it's Michelle or somebody that I you know, like,

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 5>don't like, I'm not friends with. I'm gonna say it's

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 5>wrong to treat someone like that. And exactly what you said,

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 5>I do not agree with anybody said like gaslighting or

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 5>flipping the switch like. So that's why I like it

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 5>went on for a while. I like he he he

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 5>came back at me for quite a for quite a

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 5>long time before he started to go, before.

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 3>He became accountable. So exactly so, he fought it for

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 3>a while, and that's why.

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 4>I said he broke it.

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Had he did break it had to take a breaking,

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and that's with any human Sometimes we go through things

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 2>in life and you don't get it until you say

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:40.720
<v Speaker 2>that breaking happens.

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 4>And that's exactly what happened.

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 2>He had a breaking And thank you Laurel for being

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.800
<v Speaker 2>there because that moment probably never would have happened, because,

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 2>like you said, who else was gonna hold the fire

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 2>to him if you weren't there?

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, probably no one, And you know that's

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 5>and that's a problem. You know, like he's gotten away

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 5>with it for a very very very long time. And

0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 5>I just feel, honestly like the women are the people

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 5>that get get the ship under the stick here like

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:04.879
<v Speaker 5>this four girlfriends, do you know what I'm saying?

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 3>And Michelle, because Michelle was looking forward to that too,

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, like she didn't genuinely like didn't realize the

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 3>depth that it was. She said, I was going to

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 3>manage like yeah, which is which also brings up another

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 3>point too about accountability. So we saw where Jay said

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 3>he reached out to was in a reice to apologize, right,

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 3>and as she was saying, it was a week before

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.800
<v Speaker 3>they were to film the reunion, So you guys already

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 3>have the reunion dates locked in, you already know who's

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 3>going to likely be there, but that it had been

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 3>six months prior and he hadn't reached out, and he's

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 3>saying the timeline doesn't matter, And so what are your

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 3>thoughts on that?

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Laurel?

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 3>And probably because you heard more of that conversation, since

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 3>we only get to see a snippet of it of

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 3>people waiting till, oh, I'm going to see you at

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 3>the reunion, Now let me apologize or make amends right beforehand.

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts about that?

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, what he said was basically, it took him some

0:38:55.160 --> 0:39:02.799
<v Speaker 5>time to basically not understand, but it took him some

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 5>time to come to terms with what had happened. And

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 5>that's why that's why he waited so long, I guess

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 5>to reach out to her. And it's just it's so

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 5>complicated because everyone's always quick to say like, oh, you're

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 5>only doing this for cameras and whatnot, and and like

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't, I don't particularly it sounded like what what

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 5>Jay said on the reunion was that they didn't really

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 5>ever hang out, So Nourice thought that they were friends

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 5>and maybe they chatted and maybe they talked, and then

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, you just see where someone values you, and yes,

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 5>in this situation.

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Very affected by it.

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Like she seemed really, like you said earlier, Nurise isn't

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 3>someone who shows vulnerability often, but when it came to

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 3>her relationship with Jay, she seemed very affected by whatever,

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever disappointments she had with how that played out.

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, one hundred percent. And that's what I was proud

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 5>of her for because that's a step, and that's a

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 5>step in the direction that she doesn't really feel comfortable

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 5>doing usually, And so that's that's a good thing for her,

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, like that's a good thing for her to show.

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 5>And I remember sitting there and saying, like, you know,

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.720
<v Speaker 5>to Tory and Kara, like she's doing a good job.

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 5>And they agreed, you know, like she's doing a good

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.879
<v Speaker 5>job of pushing herself out of her comfort zone. And

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 5>and and and that's what we love to see. That

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 5>is growth. That is you know, steps in the direction

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 5>of you know, growing in life. Right, And and what

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.240
<v Speaker 5>I saw, I guess basically is just Jade just doesn't

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 5>value Nourice in the same way that she valued him.

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 5>And they found that out. And and while he may

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 5>have reached out to apologize, the damage was already done.

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, And whether or not it took a really

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 5>long time for him to come to terms with that.

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 5>Like I can understand that, like, you know, because there's

0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 5>a lot of elements at play, But but I also

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 5>I really, you know, I just I can't. I can't.

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 5>I can't. The gaslighting that Jay exhibited is is just

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 5>like you know, I still got problems with that.

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that gaslighting thing is is.

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 5>That's the problem. Yeah. And that's why he that's why

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 5>he's in the position that he's in, is because a

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 5>lot of what you don't see and a lot of

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 5>sometimes where the one person that gets targeted is there's

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 5>a lot of social there's a lot of social problems

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 5>that they that they encounter with everyone on the cast.

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 5>And then everyone on the cast is like, yeah, yeah,

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 5>I experienced that with him, and then another person's like, yeah,

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 5>I did too, So we call you out on it.

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 5>And then you get put in this hot seat and

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 5>do you say, okay, yeah what I did was wrong.

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm so sorry guys, or do you go no, that's

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:52.720
<v Speaker 5>your fault, that's your fault, that's your fault.

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 1>No, that's not you know, and then that's who you get.

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 5>That's when you get to see like the real the

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 5>reality of who someone is.

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I agree there.

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there is very little history with these people, but.

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 4>A lot of the cuts in the wounds run deep.

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 2>However, with the vets in the corner there's a lot

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.720
<v Speaker 2>of history there, and there's still wounds that are cutting deep.

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.280
<v Speaker 2>What was going on in the corner with you guys

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 2>on your own private island, specifically this.

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 4>Tory and Kara banter back and forth? What was going

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 4>on over there?

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 5>Hey, they just won't they won't stop. I don't get it, honestly,

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:34.880
<v Speaker 5>I was literally I really am curious because you know, like,

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 5>what the heck. I'm like, Car, why do you hate Tori?

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 5>And then she's like, you know, She's like, you know,

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 5>there's there's a reason, but like she won't specifically say it,

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 5>and then and then Tory's just kind of like poking

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 5>fun at it, playing with it, which is funny and comical,

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 5>and I enjoy that. Yeah, they're just going back and forth,

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.479
<v Speaker 5>like the entire show. It is like one's on my left,

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 5>ones on my right. And then Tory will be like,

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 5>is that why you blocked me? And then Car's like

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 5>rolling her eyes, and then I'm like, no, but what

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 5>is actually the reason why you don't like each other? Yeah,

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 5>that's what I'm That's what I'm like, what's going on? Like?

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 5>What is what is it? What did reveal it to me?

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 3>In a little bit of a theory on the reunion.

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Do you think that theory is true? Because you sort

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.840
<v Speaker 3>of said you feel like there may have been a

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 3>little bit of jealousy on cars and when Tory came

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 3>into the picture, because you know, and then Derell floated

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:30.439
<v Speaker 3>out that it was sort of like, uh, Tory took over.

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Kara was the face and then Tory took over the

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 3>face of the challenge.

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that there's some truth to those theories

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>at all?

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 3>Do you think Tory po pointed out that she felt

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 3>like Kara was just doing this so that they could

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 3>work together as a team on another version of Rivals,

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 3>which I would not want to be on that season.

0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean you already they would dominate. They just those

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.959
<v Speaker 3>two together, it's just, you know, pretty much game over.

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 1>But what are your thoughts? My thoughts are that.

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 5>I thought that it was jealousy, which is why I

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 5>said that. And then when we were sitting there, Carl said, no, Laurel,

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 5>like you know that, like I support strong women, and

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 5>it is actually true, so you know, she's never she

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:16.399
<v Speaker 5>really isn't like bothered when like I'm there and we're

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 5>both strong women. You know what I'm saying? So so

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 5>I was like, Okay, yeah, I could see that. I

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 5>do still think though, that it is, like you know,

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:29.800
<v Speaker 5>there there is an aspect of jealousy to it, maybe

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 5>unless Kara reveals to me at some point what it

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 5>is that something happened. And it was like, you know,

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 5>but she hasn't told me, she hasn't told you. Like,

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:39.840
<v Speaker 5>like like I said when I was on the stage,

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 5>I was like, but what is it? Carl, Like, then,

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 5>if it's not jealousy, what is it?

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:44.919
<v Speaker 1>What is the thing?

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 5>She won't say it? So, like, I don't actually know

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 5>the answer to this. I can only speculate. And like

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 5>I said, I me and Durrell thought it was the

0:44:54.400 --> 0:45:00.040
<v Speaker 5>thing that we said and and Kara and Carl said no,

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:05.720
<v Speaker 5>So I don't have an answer for you on that unfortunately,

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:07.840
<v Speaker 5>like I said, I thought that it was what I said,

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:11.240
<v Speaker 5>but then Carl said no, it wasn't. And then maybe Tory.

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:13.880
<v Speaker 5>I think usually the person that says like, oh, you

0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:15.720
<v Speaker 5>want to be rivals with me is actually the person

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 5>that wants that. So I think Tory wants to be Car's.

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, which would be smart. I mean again, that would

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 1>be one hell of a team.

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 5>I think Car doesn't want to be Tory's rival, but

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:28.959
<v Speaker 5>she would probably take it, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 5>Car's kind of pretty unbothered by most things. But the

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 5>one thing that there is with her from the very

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 5>get go is like an element of me me me, me,

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.879
<v Speaker 5>me me me mean, you know, like it's like, yeah,

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 5>so so I can't I call it jealousy, but maybe

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 5>that's not the right word, but uh, yeah, it's just

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 5>very layered. It's very layered. Yeah, and and I really

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:01.239
<v Speaker 5>don't know the true to be honest with you. Maybe

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 5>it'll get revealed. Maybe all of this will come to

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 5>a head, and I don't know when, maybe we will

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 5>see play out in their laurel.

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 4>We love a good hints. We love a good hints.

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Were you speaking of everything you know? Playing out?

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 3>And we're going to get to a new season that's

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 3>going to be coming soon that I know everyone has

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 3>been talking about. Excited, But before we get to that,

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 3>were you surprised? And you can be honest, so if

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 3>you weren't surprised, you'd be like, no, I already knew

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 3>when Tory did call you the female goat.

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 5>Oh man, I just thought that was so nice because

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 5>to be honest with you, I've been fighting for years

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 5>for people to give me a capability because I mean,

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 5>you saw Teresa. All she did was tear me down,

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, from the very first season that we did together,

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 5>Like even though I was performing in Daily's like on

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.360
<v Speaker 5>Fresh Meat Too, all she did was make fun of

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 5>my laugh, make fun of my cellulate, make fun of

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 5>my body, call me bigfoot, like those were things that

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 5>were happening behind the scenes that no one saw. So

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:13.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm having to deal with all of this stuff. And

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, I wish you just would have talked to

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 5>me if we had a problem, but like, you know,

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 5>we're young, we're young kids, and we don't have communication

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 5>skills at that point. So I was just like really

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.479
<v Speaker 5>feeling like isolated and alone. And then and then even

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 5>on Cutthroat, I had Abram coming at me saying, you're

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:31.319
<v Speaker 5>not a good competitor, You're not this, and I'm like,

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:35.919
<v Speaker 5>fuck you, you dick, like you're you're sleeping with Kara and

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 5>like and and you're telling me I'm not a good

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 5>competitor when I'm the only reason we won the Daily

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:44.320
<v Speaker 5>the other day, like screw you. And then on Rivals,

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:46.719
<v Speaker 5>you know, like that was difficult because then we were

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 5>in a house of all vets and so it was

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:51.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, and then Kara had me and car had

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 5>our differences, and so that was hard for us to

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 5>work together as a team, and then eventually we came together.

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 5>Like I just feel like, I just feel like the

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's like it's been like an uphill battle

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 5>for me. And so to finally be recognized, even by TJ,

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, like that, I haven't received that before, to

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 5>be honest with you, I've received it from fans. Yeah,

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:14.320
<v Speaker 5>and I truly appreciate those fans, and I'm so thankful

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 5>that they, you know, they see something strong in me,

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 5>or they see what they see in me. But not

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 5>everyone sees that. You know, that's a.

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Point, and not everyone has good visions, right, that's okay,

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 3>and that's okay or dumb. Some people don't have standards.

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 3>You are an icon and have been in how you

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 3>play this game very much, so like you are the

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:34.880
<v Speaker 3>truth and one thing I do love about how you

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.319
<v Speaker 3>play the game. And something that was a topic that

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 3>we saw on the stage, like Nourie spoke to it

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:42.359
<v Speaker 3>this season. She's like, look, I made it to the end.

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:45.319
<v Speaker 3>Without being a snake like I was who I said

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 3>I was, And I think that's something you and I

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 3>connected over on Free Agents, which I liked about you.

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 3>It's like I am a regard whatever people want to

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 3>say about my social gameplay. I'm always straightforward. I'm always

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 3>up front. You don't have to I'm not telling you

0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 3>one thing and doing something else. Find your back. If

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.399
<v Speaker 3>I do do something, I will own it and say hey,

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 3>I voted for you or I'm doing X, Y and Z.

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 3>And you've played the game that same way. So not

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 3>only have you been a force to be reckoned with,

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:13.319
<v Speaker 3>but you've done so by I think being consistent, you know,

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 3>and and transparent the whole way through. So when you

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 3>heard Naric say that on the stage at this reunion,

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 3>that like, hey, versus sort of what she I think,

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.280
<v Speaker 3>she's sort of implying that, like Jay's gameplay, for example,

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:28.839
<v Speaker 3>was a little snaky and all of the different things. Yeah,

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 3>how did you feel about hearing Naris say that?

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 5>I agree with her, And I mean anybody that's tied

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:38.040
<v Speaker 5>to old Assio is going to have some sort of integrity.

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:44.879
<v Speaker 5>Like that that boy, he I love him, He's he's

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 5>the best and like we are we are tight, and yeah,

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:48.399
<v Speaker 5>you know.

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Justus had a flirtation ship back back on rid or

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:53.240
<v Speaker 3>Dies for those who forgot, y'all.

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Have a little low.

0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Flirtation ship for a moment. You have good taste, understand, Yeah.

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I mean, and I was not attracted to him,

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 5>like because he's like young, you know, like yeah, and

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 5>then like my attraction for him kind of just shocked

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 5>me out of nowhere because after like a month of

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 5>living together and like sleeping next to each other and

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:15.720
<v Speaker 5>having these long conversations and you know, him like slowly

0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 5>opening up to me because like he comes across as

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:20.920
<v Speaker 5>very shy, he doesn't speak very much, but then like

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 5>if he likes you, he will share. And he does

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 5>have a comedic side, which I was like, oh my god,

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.840
<v Speaker 5>he's funny. And like when I when that happened, I

0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:34.919
<v Speaker 5>was like, geez, he's like like he's actually like not

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 5>just this like pretty boy, you know, like yeah, and

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 5>then like we had in depth conversations and then you know,

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:44.799
<v Speaker 5>that's when I was like, oh god, I like him.

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 5>And then I told him and then he told me

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 5>about the situation that he had at home, which wasn't

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 5>his girlfriend. But you know, he I knew about the

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.360
<v Speaker 5>girl because we had talked in depth about our lives,

0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 5>and I just thought that it was kind of the

0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 5>same situation that I had, which was I was dating

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 5>someone before the show. But but like, it's not like

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:04.960
<v Speaker 5>your relationship. It's not your relationship, you know, it's just

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:06.880
<v Speaker 5>like nothing seen.

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>See if you guys are just kind of yeah, yeah,

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:09.120
<v Speaker 1>So I just assumed it was that.

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 5>And and you know, I just what I like about

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 5>him is he takes accountability and and and that is

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 5>just so few and far between with men as we see,

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 5>like Jay does not take accountability, Callum does not take accountability.

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 5>And I personally think that we need more men like

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 5>Airasio and Ed on the show, you know what I'm saying.

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Right, I think on the show, I completely agree and

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 3>just want to put it out there, like as as

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:37.320
<v Speaker 3>a matchmaker, someone who works with single men and women

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:39.399
<v Speaker 3>all the time, there are quite a few men who

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:42.440
<v Speaker 3>take accountability, so settling for anything less than that, Like

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean again, we even saw James do it a

0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 3>little bit on the show, and when Iman Well came on.

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Our podcast, he did it a little bit.

0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 3>It was kind of look, yeah, I was you know,

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 3>and so it's like cool, cool, Like that's all it takes,

0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:56.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's just being like I fed up, I

0:51:56.760 --> 0:51:59.320
<v Speaker 3>was human, my bad, Like I'm going to try and

0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 3>do better next time.

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm setting. I love that about it should never be

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 1>an option.

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 2>He had the most kindest things to say about you

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 2>when he came on the screen and he was just

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 2>talking about you, and I was like, oh my gosh,

0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 2>like their friendship, their friendship is so beautiful and it's

0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:16.239
<v Speaker 2>not a weird situation. Like Nourice was over in the

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 2>corner like yep she is, and like you know, she

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:20.440
<v Speaker 2>was cheering for you guys. Like I thought that was

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:22.640
<v Speaker 2>a very very sweet moment. How did you feel hearing

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 2>what he had to say about you.

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:30.919
<v Speaker 5>I My heart was warm because I feel the same

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:35.400
<v Speaker 5>about him and we just have this like deep friendship

0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:38.759
<v Speaker 5>and I trust him and you know, to hear him

0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:41.400
<v Speaker 5>say those kind words about me that that I'm like

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 5>the biggest blessing that the challenge has given him, Like

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:47.560
<v Speaker 5>those are just like I see, he's my friend in

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:51.759
<v Speaker 5>real life. Yeah, so you know, like it did kind

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:54.799
<v Speaker 5>of start with like this like weird, you know, like

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 5>are we attracted to each other type of thing, and

0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:00.120
<v Speaker 5>you kind of figure you kind of figure things out well,

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:04.440
<v Speaker 5>like as you you know, go about life right, And

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 5>I made some dumbass mistakes and I went back to

0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:16.160
<v Speaker 5>somebody that I should not have gone back to, and then, uh,

0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 5>you know, I think that was a nail on the

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:18.359
<v Speaker 5>coffin there.

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when we heard you say you don't like to

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 3>talk about alliances before the game like actually starts. You

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 3>said that on the stage, but you already know we're

0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 3>going to ask you, okay, So in saying that, I

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 3>want to know three names of people who were on

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:39.319
<v Speaker 3>that stage who you would consider being in an alliance with.

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't do alliances.

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 1>None at all.

0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Wait, you and Car kind of had an alliance back

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:47.759
<v Speaker 3>before things went left in Free Agent. I mean meaning

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:49.439
<v Speaker 3>that like in Free Agents, you weren't on a team

0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 3>because we were in rotating teams, but you guys worked

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:54.360
<v Speaker 3>together very much up until there was kind of a

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:57.840
<v Speaker 3>fracture in the friendship. So wouldn't you consider that an alliance?

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:02.840
<v Speaker 5>Like? No, Like, so Car and I at that point

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:07.280
<v Speaker 5>we were we were having like kind of little battles

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 5>here and there, like before the show started, and she

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:15.359
<v Speaker 5>was in the process of finding her voice is how

0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 5>I would is how I would describe that. And unfortunately,

0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 5>what she ended up doing was taking out things on

0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:23.920
<v Speaker 5>me that she should not have taken out on me.

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 5>They should have been taken out on another person. Yeah,

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:32.759
<v Speaker 5>and I didn't like that. Car is also easily swayed.

0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:35.399
<v Speaker 5>But this is this is the weird thing about Car.

0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 5>She is brilliant. That girl is very absolutely so. I

0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:42.240
<v Speaker 5>had a hard time.

0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 1>And had a fighter, like just like a heart, like

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 1>a fighter like with her heart.

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean, Like all in Yeah, and

0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 5>I love that about her, Like it's amazing, you know,

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 5>because she all she did was like, you know, get

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:58.560
<v Speaker 5>better right at the show, like physically she you know,

0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:01.640
<v Speaker 5>she just she used this as the as a as

0:55:01.680 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 5>a way to advance and get better. So those are

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 5>great things. But also at the same time, on a

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:11.960
<v Speaker 5>personal level, I won't tolerate any type of disrespect towards

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:16.440
<v Speaker 5>me when you know that in life, I've had your

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:20.480
<v Speaker 5>back so fucking hardcore. And if you're gonna come on

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.960
<v Speaker 5>television and now let a producer say, oh, is Laurel

0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:25.879
<v Speaker 5>doing this to you? And then you're gonna say, oh,

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 5>Laurel's like doing whatever, and when I'm not and you're

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:30.440
<v Speaker 5>not going to have a conversation with me about it,

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:34.319
<v Speaker 5>that's gonna piss me off. And so I was like goodbye.

0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:37.560
<v Speaker 5>But it wasn't an alliance. It was a true friendship,

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 5>do you know what I'm saying. But it was like

0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:41.960
<v Speaker 5>a complicated one at the same time, because did I

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:42.960
<v Speaker 5>ever want to be her friend?

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:43.440
<v Speaker 6>Fuck?

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:46.920
<v Speaker 5>No, Like in the same way that Michelle irritates me.

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 5>Car irritated me from the get go, and like that's

0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:53.279
<v Speaker 5>why I'm like this with Michelle because like I've done that,

0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 5>I went down that road, Like it's too much for me.

0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:59.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't need that complication in my life. I have

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:03.719
<v Speaker 5>best friends that I've known since I was five years old,

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:06.400
<v Speaker 5>and they on my back. I met Jack on X

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:09.799
<v Speaker 5>on the Peak. I've never met anybody more loyal than Jack. Like,

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:12.640
<v Speaker 5>I don't need a new fucking friend that's gonna carve

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 5>me problems. I'm sorry.

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wait, so if you and Jack weren't on the

0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 3>same team, would you guys be on an alliance?

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 5>He it's not like if that's a friend, yes, I

0:56:24.200 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 5>would never do anything to him, Like it's just that's

0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 5>not what I call an alliance. I don't fuck an

0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 5>alliance that's my friend.

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, So basically for your friends, you wouldn't vote

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 3>them in or off like your close friends regard like

0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:39.720
<v Speaker 3>if there was five of them on a show.

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:41.200
<v Speaker 5>Jesus Christ.

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:43.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna keep pushing on this, Laurel, like

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you can push it.

0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 3>But like like this way, Melissa and Big T were

0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:50.560
<v Speaker 3>essentially they were like the Doublemint twins, but they also

0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 3>clearly had each other's back and were never gonna fight.

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Like people knew that they came as a pack.

0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 3>One was never going to vote against the other, right,

0:56:58.120 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 3>they were always covering each other.

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I love Yeah. Yeah.

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 3>So like say, which in a game setting is essentially

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 3>an alliance, call it what you want to call it.

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 3>It means, hey, I've got your back, You've got my back.

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Were I mean, that's what it means in a loyal way.

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 3>For those who don't hold on to their alliances, then

0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't. But you're saying, so Jack is one person

0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:20.240
<v Speaker 3>that you wouldn't Okay, good glad, we got that that.

0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:22.080
<v Speaker 5>I just I just don't see it that way, and

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 5>I will refuse to the like I just I'm we're

0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:28.120
<v Speaker 5>gonna go toe to toe here because I just like,

0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 5>I just don't do the Lions things because there's so

0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:36.000
<v Speaker 5>many fake alliances. Yes, and that's and that's what we say,

0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 5>that's what we saw.

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 1>We just saw this season.

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, well we see every season, right, there's always

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:45.760
<v Speaker 3>somebody who's like backstabbing or doing something else around what I.

0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 4>Can't there's just an understanding. There's just an understanding. We

0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 4>don't have to have a conversation when we come into

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 4>this house. We already know what it is. Don't like,

0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:55.440
<v Speaker 4>do your thing. I'm gonna do my thing.

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 2>But we understand where we stand, and so I don't

0:57:58.120 --> 0:57:59.080
<v Speaker 2>think we have to put a name on.

0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:00.000
<v Speaker 4>It's just an understanding.

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:03.600
<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no, no, no, definitely not. So it's

0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:06.360
<v Speaker 5>there's another layer to it. So it's it's more like

0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:10.120
<v Speaker 5>what you and I established, Devin. It's yeah, you came

0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 5>to me, you talk to me, and I can promise

0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 5>you that I'm gonna be honest with you. I also,

0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:18.520
<v Speaker 5>I also can't predict what this game is going to

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 5>bring to us. Yep. I'm not all knowing, do you know.

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:24.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm surviving just like you are, yea, And I can't

0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:28.560
<v Speaker 5>promise you is if if I fucking love you, I'm

0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:31.000
<v Speaker 5>going to tell you the truth and we're going to

0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 5>work it out between you and and that's all I

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 5>can promise. That's all I can promise, because I can't

0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 5>save you necessarily, Like there's certain situations where you can't

0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:42.240
<v Speaker 5>do anything.

0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, and I think that mindset is exactly what gets

0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 3>people in Like I think you're exactly right, Laurel in

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:48.840
<v Speaker 3>that like where people get in trouble is one they

0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:51.120
<v Speaker 3>have so many friends they're protecting, like a Michelle in

0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:54.360
<v Speaker 3>this instance. But then also, you can't predict the future,

0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:57.280
<v Speaker 3>so you can't promise that you're going to take X, Y,

0:58:57.320 --> 0:58:59.880
<v Speaker 3>and Z step every single time because you don't know

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 3>what TJ is going to throw at you tomorrow or

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.640
<v Speaker 3>what the next step is going to be, So you

0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 3>can't You just can't promise that no matter how much

0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:07.720
<v Speaker 3>you care about somebody.

0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I and I and I just I will

0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:16.919
<v Speaker 5>say this, I'm extremely thankful for some of the relationships

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:21.280
<v Speaker 5>that have developed from these shows. But you know, but

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:24.240
<v Speaker 5>it's just the game is just a complicated monster.

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it is, and a monster that you're still

0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 3>a part of because we got a little tease that

0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:34.960
<v Speaker 3>All Stars four is coming up finally, is there anything

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 3>you can hit anything? We should just be keeping an

0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:40.400
<v Speaker 3>eye out for. Like I see the big smile on

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 3>your face. We're excited to see you back. So yeah,

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 3>what what what?

0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:44.760
<v Speaker 5>Like?

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.120
<v Speaker 3>What should be keep an eye out for for the

0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 3>infamous All Stars for we.

0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 5>Got some massive heavy hitters returning on All Stars four,

0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 5>like not just like one, not just like two, not

0:59:55.800 --> 1:00:00.600
<v Speaker 5>even three. We got like massive faces coming back like

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:03.919
<v Speaker 5>and and not just in the newer realm. Like we've

1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:08.720
<v Speaker 5>got keithla which was he was on the very first,

1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:12.000
<v Speaker 5>the very first Real World War Rules Challenge, and I

1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:15.280
<v Speaker 5>believe he's one one time he was an amazing man. Like,

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:19.760
<v Speaker 5>we've got people from like back in the day, Adam Larson.

1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:23.720
<v Speaker 5>And then we've got some new romances that Brew and Stern.

1:00:25.720 --> 1:00:30.400
<v Speaker 5>We we have me being a classic mess and uh

1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:36.400
<v Speaker 5>do it making some serious bad decisions. And then I

1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:40.600
<v Speaker 5>mean the biggest thing is like Carl Marias Orbello is returning.

1:00:41.000 --> 1:00:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah people, so it's oh man, it's gonna be It's

1:00:46.320 --> 1:00:46.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna be good.

1:00:46.960 --> 1:00:50.640
<v Speaker 5>Rachel, Veronica, Tina, Like it's just like everywhere you turn,

1:00:50.680 --> 1:00:52.200
<v Speaker 5>it's like just icon.

1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and that's what we're talking about it so

1:00:57.080 --> 1:01:01.240
<v Speaker 3>much like so many it's it's it is I cannot wait.

1:01:01.520 --> 1:01:04.680
<v Speaker 3>And big personalities too, which is also the part that's

1:01:04.680 --> 1:01:06.880
<v Speaker 3>going to not only heavy hitters when it comes to competition,

1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:09.760
<v Speaker 3>but some big personalities.

1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:10.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's great.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's honestly, it's it's so exciting. It was so

1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:19.160
<v Speaker 5>fun to film, and you know when it's fun to film, yeah,

1:01:19.640 --> 1:01:20.440
<v Speaker 5>fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's awesome. That's really really awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>I that in the meantime, we're gonna have to have

1:01:26.160 --> 1:01:29.280
<v Speaker 3>you back when All Sure is in a school full swing,

1:01:29.360 --> 1:01:30.600
<v Speaker 3>or they'll have to have you back when it All

1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Star Scort is in full swing. But in the meantime,

1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:36.000
<v Speaker 3>for people who want to keep up with you, now

1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:38.920
<v Speaker 3>see what you're up to, say Hi, where can they

1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:39.360
<v Speaker 3>find you?

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<v Speaker 1>On social I.

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<v Speaker 5>Have an Instagram and a Twitter at Laurel Stuckey l

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<v Speaker 5>A U R E L S t U c K Y.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to think it's really all I do, but

1:01:51.200 --> 1:01:55.880
<v Speaker 5>I uh, you're laughing at day one. I I mean,

1:01:55.920 --> 1:01:58.360
<v Speaker 5>I do tweet here and there. I've been tweeting more

1:01:58.400 --> 1:02:02.000
<v Speaker 5>recently because I actually don't have put her on my phone,

1:02:02.000 --> 1:02:03.440
<v Speaker 5>but I have it on my computer, so when I

1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:05.360
<v Speaker 5>signed into my computer, I can like go into Twitter

1:02:05.400 --> 1:02:11.160
<v Speaker 5>and see what people are saying. So I tweeted on occasion. Yeah,

1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:13.040
<v Speaker 5>but that's pretty much it, like, you know, just like

1:02:13.080 --> 1:02:17.000
<v Speaker 5>anybody else Instagram, Twitter, and uh, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad so much, Laurel. Yes, yeah, I appreciate

1:02:22.520 --> 1:02:26.480
<v Speaker 3>you being here. It's always great seeing you and seeing

1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:28.480
<v Speaker 3>you thrive, and it's gonna be so fun to watch

1:02:28.520 --> 1:02:29.760
<v Speaker 3>you and all starts.

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<v Speaker 5>For Yeah, thanks girls. Yeah, it's such a great time.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my goodness, such a great interview with Laurel. I'm

1:02:42.920 --> 1:02:45.320
<v Speaker 4>so glad she came to hang out with us.

1:02:45.440 --> 1:02:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so that's your girl, like that she decided to

1:02:50.960 --> 1:02:53.200
<v Speaker 2>come and hang out with us. This season as a whole,

1:02:53.320 --> 1:02:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Devin like, this has been an amazing, amazing season.

1:02:56.440 --> 1:02:59.760
<v Speaker 4>I know a lot of people had doubts because yeah, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Vet it started, it was a little like, yeah, it

1:03:03.520 --> 1:03:05.520
<v Speaker 3>was a little slow, but I think some of I

1:03:05.600 --> 1:03:07.760
<v Speaker 3>saw some somewhere online where someone said the last few

1:03:07.760 --> 1:03:10.440
<v Speaker 3>episodes of Challenge Story nine have been arguably some of

1:03:10.480 --> 1:03:14.640
<v Speaker 3>the best episodes of the challenge ever, and I kind

1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:19.080
<v Speaker 3>of agree, like that whole nourice Hirassio, the SloMo walking,

1:03:19.200 --> 1:03:23.440
<v Speaker 3>the eliminations, the betrayal, the real feelings like it was,

1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:27.480
<v Speaker 3>the shock purges like it was. All of it was,

1:03:28.000 --> 1:03:31.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, Chef's kiss and really good to see. And

1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Manuel came out of nowhere. But like he even proved

1:03:33.720 --> 1:03:37.040
<v Speaker 3>in this reunion, Emanuel's no joke, Like he just isn't.

1:03:37.920 --> 1:03:40.200
<v Speaker 1>He isn't. He is no joke. And I think we're

1:03:40.200 --> 1:03:42.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna see a lot more of that coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, day, I definitely believe so. And

1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:49.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, going into future challenges, friend needs to know

1:03:49.440 --> 1:03:52.760
<v Speaker 2>there's a target on your back, sir. The new Champ

1:03:53.200 --> 1:03:56.640
<v Speaker 2>is not just glitz and glam. It is you going

1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:58.840
<v Speaker 2>to the nation a couple of times so you won't

1:03:58.880 --> 1:04:00.680
<v Speaker 2>be able to hide behind people well anymore.

1:04:00.760 --> 1:04:03.720
<v Speaker 4>I believe that this has been an amazing season.

1:04:04.040 --> 1:04:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Jay and Michelle, because as much flak

1:04:07.200 --> 1:04:09.320
<v Speaker 2>as we give them, had they not been there, a

1:04:09.320 --> 1:04:11.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of these betrayals would not have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree, they gave us some great cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>So I will, I will, I will give them their

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<v Speaker 3>props on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So as we come to an end and we

1:04:21.360 --> 1:04:23.680
<v Speaker 2>wrap this season up, where can the people that want

1:04:23.680 --> 1:04:26.400
<v Speaker 2>to keep up with you beyond this find you on

1:04:26.480 --> 1:04:28.440
<v Speaker 2>the socials of the media's.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my address is. You can go to my website

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<v Speaker 3>Devinsimone dot com. It's Devin with the Y Simone with

1:04:37.160 --> 1:04:40.120
<v Speaker 3>an I dot com. Scroll down to the bottom you'll

1:04:40.120 --> 1:04:42.760
<v Speaker 3>see my socials. I'm most active on Instagram. I'm trying

1:04:42.760 --> 1:04:44.320
<v Speaker 3>to be better the same way I give smack to

1:04:44.400 --> 1:04:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Davion about her YouTube. Really I deserve that smack about

1:04:47.480 --> 1:04:50.000
<v Speaker 3>my Instagram. So I'm trying to be better and posting

1:04:50.000 --> 1:04:51.560
<v Speaker 3>where I post a lot in my stories, like behind

1:04:51.560 --> 1:04:52.800
<v Speaker 3>the scenes stuff if you ever want to see what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm up to. So that's Devin Simone, Den with the

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<v Speaker 3>Y smoth and I TikTok as well. Devin Simone and

1:04:58.080 --> 1:05:00.440
<v Speaker 3>the Twitter. I usually heart and just retwee stuff, but

1:05:00.440 --> 1:05:01.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not as like you know.

1:05:01.840 --> 1:05:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Active on there.

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<v Speaker 3>And what about Oh and Amazon, I have I do

1:05:06.960 --> 1:05:09.680
<v Speaker 3>fun stuff with like Natalie Negrotti. Sometimes a lot of

1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:11.920
<v Speaker 3>challengers come there and we shout them out in.

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<v Speaker 1>The chat because it's live.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you just google Amazon and Devin like Amazon

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<v Speaker 3>dot com. You'll see my channel. It's called Devin Ssmon's

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<v Speaker 3>Gift Closet. Click follow there so you can be notified

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<v Speaker 3>the next time we go live Davon. Where can the

1:05:23.400 --> 1:05:24.760
<v Speaker 3>people find you?

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<v Speaker 2>You can find me on the instagrams and the Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>streets and on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>She is on YouTube, thank amen, because the people have

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<v Speaker 3>for YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Firm she is. She is on YouTube. She's in action.

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<v Speaker 1>She is there. I'm proud of her. She is there.

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<v Speaker 4>Amen.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find me on all of the social media's

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<v Speaker 2>at Davon Diane Underscore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and thank you guys so much. We love and

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<v Speaker 1>adore you.

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<v Speaker 3>We can ever respond to all the messages, but please

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<v Speaker 3>know that we see you, we hear you, and we

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate you, and so thank you for joining us for

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<v Speaker 3>another episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Of MTV's official Challe podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember if you liked this episode, rate and review us

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<v Speaker 3>on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and tell a friend to

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<v Speaker 3>tell a friend to then tell their other friend to all.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want this to feel like a goodbye. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not a goodbye.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't take it okay, matter of fact, we will

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<v Speaker 2>see you next time. On MTV's Officials Challenge podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Laurel and I are going to be in an alliance.

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<v Speaker 1>She just doesn't know it yet.