1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast, Walking. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Back again, our number two Monday edition, Clay Travis buck 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: Sexton Show. 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: The Trump trial appears to be complete for the first day, 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: and the expectation here is that it's passover and I'm 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: trying to see that one of the jurors had a 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 2: dentist appointment. I mean, evidently that is why they have 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: decided to call it wraps for day one. Trump outside 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: in the wake of day one being complete. 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Here is what he just said to the assembled media. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: So the other thing is, if this were such shape 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: great case, why didn't he said, the district bring it? 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: Who looked at it and turned it down? Why did 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: numerous other agencies and law enforcement groups look at it? 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: Because it was shown to everybody, And very importantly, why 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: didn't the federal. 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 4: Elections do anything about it? Because this is federal, it's 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 4: not state. They're trying to make a mistate us whatever, 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: and it's not state has nothing to do. It's never 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 4: happened before. I believe it never happened before. This has 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 4: never happened before. 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: Where the state tries to insert itself in federal elections. 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: Nobody's ever seen it, but you know federal elections took 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: a total passim. 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: Okay, So that's Trump speaking. 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: At the end of the first day, if you are 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: keeping tabs on this trial, the prosecution did their opening statement. 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: Trump's defense attorney made their opening statement. I believe the 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: first witness interestingly named David Pecker, the head of the 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: National Inquirer, who is purportedly the man who was involved 33 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: in the so called ketchens Kill scheme, by which they 34 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: would potentially buy stories from the National Inquirer, pay the 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: women for those stories, and then not share them buck. 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: I mentioned that I want to dive into if you 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: were paying one hundred thousand dollars for a kid to 38 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: go to one of these elite schools and they were 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: camping out. I want to get into that. But I 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: also want to go to the essence of this argument 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: and get your read on this as well, because my 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: general proposition on this is the Alvin Bragg case is 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: a total joke. Our friend Danny McCarthy has a great 44 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: piece in the New York Post laying out why it 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: is complete and total joke. All of that is very significant. 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: But the underlying premise of his claim is that if 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: this information had come out, it would have somehow derailed 48 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: the Trump twenty sixteen campaign. I actually don't believe that's 49 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: true at all. In fact, I think most people would 50 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: have shrugged over this because whether you believe it is 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: true or not, And certainly you can argue that Stormy 52 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: Daniels made this up, you can argue that it's not true. 53 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: There are all different sorts of perspectives that many of 54 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: you out there can take. 55 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: But the idea that. 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: Trump would sleep with a woman, a porn star, potentially 57 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: while married to someone else, and and do that in 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: a reckless fashion, I think just confirms what people already 59 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: thought about Trump, particularly because this occurred. I believe the 60 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: allegation is in two thousand and six, so as a 61 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: decade before basically he's running for president. My point is, 62 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: I don't think it would have changed anybody's impressions about 63 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: Trump such that I don't buy the underlying premise here. 64 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: Leave aside the entire legal structure, the fact that this 65 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: is business records, and the fact that you're arguing that 66 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: it is a misdemeanor elevated to a felony, all of 67 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: the legal apparatus, but the underlying theory of the case 68 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: seems to be this was a fraud perpetrator on the 69 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: American public and it would change the outcome. Do you 70 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: even I don't do you even buy that aspect of 71 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: this case. I think you can go even further than 72 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: you do in this analysis, Clay, because Stormy Daniels came 73 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: out and violated the NBA. Well, I said, I've been 74 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: on this for years and nobody even cares about this. 75 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: No one even cares. But the story came out. It 76 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: didn't get hell, so we know, right, I mean, the 77 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: story came out and did anyone care? 78 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: No. 79 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: Some people say that Trump didn't do it. Other people 80 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: say that if Trump did do it, it doesn't change 81 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: what he is capable of or what he can accomplish 82 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: as president. And you know, people can pick one side 83 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: out of the other on the right. But I do 84 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: not know what I will say this. I have not 85 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: met a single person ever who has said if Donald Trump, 86 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: or rather I change my mind about Donald Trump based 87 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: upon this Stormy Daniels allegation or you know, affair or whatever. 88 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 1: So I know, I think that it's always been making 89 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: a mountain out of a mole hill politically speaking, and 90 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: the other part of this that, you know, I think 91 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: that everyone should keep in mind. It was what Trump 92 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: was saying. The president is now that any state that 93 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: is effectively a one party state, right that is a 94 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: mono culture politically, can say, you know what, we really 95 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: don't like this presidential candidate who's going to be running. 96 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: Let's just let's just look him up for state tax charges, 97 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: or let's assuming he lives there. I mean, I know 98 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: that there's there are some things that have to come 99 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: into play, but you know, this isn't going to happen 100 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: to Joe Biden because he's from Delaware. It's a blue state. 101 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: But I think the blue states are going to continue 102 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: to try to harass and coerce people into or out 103 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: of politics or out of politics based upon this precedent, right, 104 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what he's saying. He's saying, this is 105 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: not even just federal, this is state inter A state 106 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:59,119 Speaker 1: is trying to decide the presidential election using the power 107 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: of its prosecutor to do so. I mean, we've said 108 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: this along. If Trump murdered somebody, yeah, that would totally 109 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: that would be fair that would that would we would 110 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: all understand right, or have done anything that was really serious. 111 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: You know, if we had found uh that you know, 112 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: that he you know, he had hit his wife with 113 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: a wine bottle and she had to go to the hospital, 114 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: I'd be like, all right, that's a that's a that's 115 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: a legal I don't care who you are this book keeping. 116 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: It's just gross and everyone sees it. It's out. 117 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: And on the legal front, keep in mind all of 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: these things which you hear almost no discussion about. It's 119 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: outside the statute of limitations. It is a misdemeanor that 120 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: they are elevating to a felony at a time when 121 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg almost exclusively takes felonies and lowers them to misdemeanors. 122 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: It's reliant upon an additional crime, the likes of which 123 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: they have not even established what the additional crime is. 124 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: And I do think this is important. Stormy Daniels was 125 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: paid one hundred and thirty thousand dollars to sign a 126 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: non disclosure agreement so that this story would never come out, 127 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: her allegations would never come out. She put her allegations 128 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: out into the public and kept one hundred and thirty 129 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. So if that you were actually going to 130 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: focus on this particular transaction, Stormy Daniels has actually wronged 131 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: Trump because what he paid for he did not receive 132 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: the only reason why he would give her one hundred 133 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: and thirty thousand dollars is so her story wouldn't come out. 134 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: She got the money and she told her story. Yeah, 135 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, she doesn't really have a lot of integrity 136 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: to protect. She's not running for president. I don't think 137 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: anybody really can't get that much about. 138 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: But the whole premise, I'm like the only person who 139 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: cares about NDAs on the planet. 140 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: But maybe I'm rare in this. 141 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: I sold Fox OutKick and I signed an NDA saying 142 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say what I sold it for. I'm like 143 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: the only person who's ever sold this company that didn't 144 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: immediately go and leak the whole value of the entire 145 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: deal to the New York Times or CNBC or whatever else, 146 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: because everybody else seems to leak these NDAs. I've never 147 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: signed an NDA for anything certainly like this, or sought 148 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: in one for anything like this. 149 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: They're generally paying for it, they're generally pretty hard to enforce. 150 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's and I think that's I think that's 151 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: a good thing. But but if she. 152 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: Had come out and just told her story, I don't 153 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: buy into the even the premise here of Alvin Bragg, 154 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: which is that the people were defrauded because this could 155 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: have changed the outcome of the election. I don't think 156 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: that's remotely true, which circles back around to this has 157 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: nothing to do with any kind of legitimate notion of justice. 158 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean, claid this this is this is the equivalent 159 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: in terms of abuse. And we did ask Andy McCarthy 160 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: about this, and I've talked to him many many times 161 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: about when he was prosecuting drug trafficking, for example, as 162 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: in the southern District of New York. You know, cars 163 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: getting what's the biggest drug market in the United States, 164 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: New York. We always think of the drugs coming from 165 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: Columbia and then Mexico later on, but New York was 166 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: the single biggest transhipment or rather distribution point for the 167 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: rest of the country. And it would be like if 168 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: you if you arrested somebody and you had them on 169 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: video and they had a brick of cocaine, you charge 170 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: them a separate possession crime for every time that they 171 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: touched the one brick of cocaine. This is not an exaggeration. 172 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: That is what they are doing with the thirty four counts. 173 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: They are undermining. Bragg is undermining any sense that someone 174 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: could have that he is using the law in good faith. 175 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: What he's really showing is he doesn't care. This is 176 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: an explicitly political prosecution. And I know that, you know, 177 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: we kind of think that Trump. I worry a little 178 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: bit that we get to this mindset of Trump is 179 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: effectively indestructible. Like Trump, you just you can't stop this guy. 180 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: And we've seen a lot of that so far. But 181 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: I I don't think we should we should underplay just 182 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: how evil this is. I mean, Alvin Bragg is going 183 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: forward with a scheme to prosecute an American. Put aside 184 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: that it's Trump, put aside that he's a presidential candidate 185 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: and is the most famous guy probably on the planet. 186 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say he's doing this to 187 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: somebody and at least theoretically putting in a position we 188 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: could spend the rest of his life in prison. Clay, Yeah, like, 189 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: what is that? Who could do that? I mean, who 190 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: could put somebody through that? Based on this a person 191 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: who is deranged. I mean, there's something evil actually underneath 192 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: all the silliness and the obtuse nonsense, that this is 193 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: the state being abused against somebody in a way that 194 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: should make us all really uncomfortable. You're right about that. 195 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: Also on an individual level, the physical and mental strain 196 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: involved in being in a courtroom on trial is a 197 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: level of stress that most Americans would struggle to bear 198 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: at any age. They're trying to do this to Trump 199 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: in four different jurisdictions, and I actually think we're sweeping 200 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: under the rug I say we collectively as commentators, the 201 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: direct election interference designed in not only having him forced 202 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: to be in a courtroom Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday throughout 203 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: this entire process, but the mental and physical strain it 204 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: puts upon him and his inability to otherwise be out 205 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: on the campaign trail where he is excellent. I don't 206 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: think it's coincidental that they've been trying to slide Biden 207 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: into all the Midwest states for events with these awful 208 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: these awful visits to the gas stations that we've seen, 209 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: the wallas, the sheets in Pennsylvania, But those do they're 210 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: trying to stack up wins just based on getting out 211 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: and shaking hands, which does have some element of campaigning value. Trump, 212 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: I know, is in North Carolina over the weekend, and 213 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: I understand that he's going to be keeping up the 214 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: idea is a schedule that is very aggressive to allow 215 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: him to be out at as many different events as 216 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: he can. I know he did the Harlem event. Basically 217 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: went to the bodega where the individual was charged with 218 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: murder if I remember correctly, after he was attacked. All 219 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 2: of those things factor in, but this is a calculated 220 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: attempt to limit his effectiveness. And the only reason they're 221 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: not going to have him on trial basically from April 222 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: all the way until election day is because the Supreme 223 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: Court might not allow it. Otherwise, the goal was to 224 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: stack him from one courtroom to another. This is the 225 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: most outrageous election interference scheme from the party that claims 226 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: they care about democracy and freedom of choice and free 227 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: and fair elections that we've ever seen in any of 228 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: our lives. 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I think that's what you call them. 259 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: We call them other things at AMers, but Yalees. This 260 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: is what the cops said to them playing you will 261 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: be given a few minutes to claryscenario what some egress 262 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: are I Stream or Wall Street. No one will stop 263 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: me from leaving. If you do not leave, you will 264 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: be arrested. We will give you come to leave. If 265 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: you do not leave, you will be arrested. To the 266 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: university's credit, they have followed through on this. Forty seven 267 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: today Clay arrested. Hundreds were staging this anti Israel protest. 268 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Cops in in you know, riot gear, and I know 269 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: I have cop friends who say it's not really riot gear, 270 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: like well, tactic what are we going to call it? 271 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: Like tactical control, crowd gear or something, you know, the 272 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: stuff that you think of when you think of a riot. Okay, 273 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: they were wearing that. They went in and sure enough 274 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: they have made arrest forty seven. Now how long will 275 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: they actually be detained? I'm guessing a matter of hours. 276 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: What happens when these kids, these you know, college kids 277 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: Clay make their way back to the quad once they're 278 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: processed and say, we're not going anywhere because that's where 279 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: I think this is. That's where I think this is 280 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: heading at Yale. We're putting a lot on the university. 281 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: But I said this in the first hour. 282 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: At what point do we also just say where are 283 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: these knuckleheads of parents? If you you are paying one 284 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a year, which is like seven what 285 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: these schools I think, with room and board and like 286 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: cost of attendance. 287 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: There was a front page article with the three series 288 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: BMW that these kids are all showing up with at Yale. Yes, 289 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean once you start adding the car payments and 290 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: the credit card bills for the restaurants. Yes. 291 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: There was a front page article in the Wall Street 292 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: Journal over the way. I think it was a Wall 293 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: Street Journal. I've been the New York Times saying that Vanderbilt, 294 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: where I went to law school, now, the cost of attendance, 295 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: the way they roll it all up is approaching one 296 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a year. Clay, I sit here with 297 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: you in large Park because I sat down and went through. 298 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: You know, they had like admitted students thing, and I 299 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: had it for NYU Stern and Columbia Business Columbia same 300 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: Columbia Columbia Business School, and they're like, yeah, by the 301 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: time you pay this back, it's going to cost you, well, 302 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to take out it's gonna cost two 303 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, And I was just like, 304 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: for two years, Nah, I don't think so. Thanks, I'm 305 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: gonna go try the media thing out. So there's lots 306 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: of people who have done that math at some point. 307 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't remember. 308 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: I know I had to pay it all off, and 309 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: I didn't pay it all off to I was around 310 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: thirty five, but I feel like it was thirty some 311 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: odd thousand dollars a year for Vanderbilt Law School when 312 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: I went there, So a three year law degree was. 313 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: One hundred thousand dollars. 314 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 2: Basically, what I'm looking at is if I'm a parent 315 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 2: and I get noticed, because I would think you would 316 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: have to get noticed if your kid has been arrested 317 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: for camping out on the quad to protest in favor 318 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: of Israel not being allowed to defend itself. Basically, what 319 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: are these parents doing? Wouldn't you? You don't have kids yet, 320 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: but I've got a sixteen year old. If my oldest 321 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: son got arrested for camping out on a quad, I 322 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 2: would be very tempted to say, I'm done with you 323 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: ever being able to go to college on my dime. 324 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: Clay, I'm telling you, man, a lot of these You 325 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: look at a lot of these kids, especially some of 326 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: these Muslim students that are at their parents agree with them, Well, 327 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: they're they're you know, we got to have a whole 328 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: other conversation about this, but the parents don't necessarily disagree 329 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: with their quote. Anti Zionism stands. 330 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: Well, and that's at least somewhat defensible to me, not 331 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 2: that perspective, but at least if you're paying for it. 332 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that when we come back. I 333 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: would lose my mind personally. Twenty bucks will barely buying 334 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: you a burger and fries at most restaurants now, but 335 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: it will buy you a full month cell phone service 336 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: from Puretalk twenty dollars a month gets you unlimited talk 337 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: text plenty of five G data from Puretalk. You'll get 338 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 2: the same quality of service as AT and T, Verizon 339 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: or T Mobile, but for half the cost. 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First day in the Trump trial officially complete. 351 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking about this for the next six 352 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: weeks every day for certain, But the chaos that is 353 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: unspooling right now at Columbia, at Yale, I, saw NYU 354 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: is starting to have their own issues. 355 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: I bet. 356 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, my undergrad alma mater, George Washington University, which has 357 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: had its own major issues with this, could also have 358 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: these encampments on a quad. If it's occurring at all 359 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: these other schools on the East Coast, I would think 360 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: that it would likely happen there too. So couple of things. 361 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: I said as a dad that if I had a 362 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: kid who was making one hundred, that I was paying 363 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: nearly one hundred thousand dollars a year, seventy five eighty, 364 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: whatever the math is to go to college. And I 365 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: found out that my son or daughter was getting arrested 366 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: for living on a quad in a tent to protest Zionism, 367 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: I would be very tempted to say, you're cut off. 368 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: Take out whatever loans you need to to fulfill your 369 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 2: undergraduate degree. Dad and mom are not going to subsidize 370 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: your idiocy in this way. I really think I would 371 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: do that. I've got a sixteen year old. He'll be 372 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: off to college in two years. I can't imagine him 373 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: behaving like this, but I would be very tempted if 374 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: he got arrested for this, to respond in that fashion. 375 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 2: You pay your own way from this way out. You 376 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: think you're smarter than Dad and mom, I'm not going 377 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: to subsidize it. You raise the issue, and I would 378 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: think that's the majority of people whose kids go off 379 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: to school. But you raise the issue Buck, And this 380 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: is even more alarming that you think there's a lot 381 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: of parents out there that would agree with their kids 382 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: getting arrested because they are anti Jewish, anti Israel as 383 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 2: a homeland, and certainly they're like the elon Omars of 384 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: the world. That it's brand as value as growth because 385 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: her daughter and daughter, Yeah, of course she just looks 386 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: like she's now down struggle and thes and everything as well. Yeah, 387 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: it's totally on brand for for ilon Omar, mean anything 388 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: that's that's like, you know, he hates America and hates Israel, like, oh, 389 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: they're all they're all in favor, but they take all 390 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: the advantages of Western civilization and try to try to 391 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: tear it down in the process. 392 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: I gotta say, I don't know. I mean, look, I 393 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: don't have kids, so I can't speak to you know 394 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: what what how different they can be from from the 395 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: parents ideologically? I mean, I know I know people who 396 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: have kids who are you know, very uh left wing, 397 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: despite the fact that the parents are are themselves conservative. 398 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: But I just say this, I think a lot of 399 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: the people that are being arrested who have purple hair 400 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: and emotional instability and deluded about both what's really happening 401 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: in the Middle East. How many of the people that 402 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: you think are out there protesting have even been to 403 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: the West Bank or the Gaza strip. I'd say less 404 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: than one percent. They don't know a damn thing. How 405 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: many of Israel maybe five percent, maybe ten percent, maybe, 406 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean that might be being generous there. They have 407 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: no idea what they're talking about, but they know, just 408 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: as they did with BLM and that whole narrative, it's 409 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: like cops are racist and America is racist. That It's 410 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: just it is the slogans to get the mob inside it. 411 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: It is not about what is true. It is not 412 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: about the reality. I mean, in the case of BLM, 413 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: for example, the fact that they're only about, you know, 414 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: call a ten to twenty unarmed black men killed by 415 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: police in this country of three hundred and forty million 416 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: people in any given year is a remarkable testament to 417 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: generally speaking, how law enforcement is professional and fair and 418 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: not racist in this correct and any objective observer would say, 419 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, America's cops are doing actually a really 420 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: good job. But put that aside for a second. In 421 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: the context of these these campus protest lunatics. I think 422 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: it's so interesting also that they they're always saying no 423 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: Zionists here, Well, no, they really mean no Jews, you 424 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like they use Zionism as a 425 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: stand in, but actually what you're seeing is that they 426 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: blame the Jews of America for what's happening in Israel 427 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: and the Middle East, and that they don't create this separation. 428 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: And I think that that's I think that there are 429 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: some Jews who have been used to being very leftist 430 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: and being critical of Israel and are now realizing, oh no, 431 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: when ilhan Omar criticizes Israeli policy and talks about the 432 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: Zionist entity, it's not a foreign policy critique. It is 433 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: a lightly masked I don't like like the Jews game 434 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: that she's playing, you know what I mean. It's there's 435 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: a there's a falseness, there's a there's a dishonesty to 436 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: a lot of these campus critiques. And any time they're 437 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: using the term Zionism, well what does that mean? Somebody? 438 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: Are you a Zionist if you think Israel should exist 439 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: because you're gonna have a lot of Jews in America, 440 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: then who are Zionists, aren't you right, I mean, think 441 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: about it. 442 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: Well, I just I look at this and I think 443 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: it's a failure of parenting to a large degree. And 444 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: your point that some parents are going to agree with this, Yes, 445 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: the elon Omars of the world do think that, despite 446 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: the fact they won't really, although they're pretty close to 447 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: saying it. I grabbed like I meant to mention this 448 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: last week, but I should mention it now. They did 449 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: a vote in the House to basically decide, hey, do 450 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: you support Iran attacking Israel? Like, let's just condemn Iran 451 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: attacking Israel. It voted four oh four to fourteen to 452 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 2: condemn Iran's attack of Israel. Thirteen democrats voted no. I mean, 453 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: if you are not comfortable saying, yeah, Aron shouldn't attack Israel. 454 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 2: Jamal Bowman, Corey Bush, Greg Kassar, Jonathan Jackson, Primila Jayapaul 455 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: h Haint Jackson, Barbara Lee Summerly, Alexandria aoc elon Omar, 456 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 2: Aana Presley, Delhia Ramirez, and Rashida Talib. That is I 457 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: think quite fairly classified as the anti Israel component of 458 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: our country. 459 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: And to our point, now, I don't you named a 460 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: whole bunch of names. Yeah, how many of those members 461 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: of Congress are white that that voted against? 462 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? 463 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: No, I mean, I mean, I'm gonna look right now, 464 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: I don't think any of them. Isn't that interesting If 465 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: it's just about foreign policy and ideology, why is it 466 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: that you know? And again, let's let's someone tell me. 467 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm missing one or two. You rattled off fourteen names, 468 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: but certainly I don't know eleven twelve of the fourteen 469 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: are not white. And I only bring it up because 470 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: Israel Palestine in America is about race politics. It is 471 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: not about religion. Even it is not about the Balfour 472 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: Declaration and UN Resolution two four two and what is 473 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: it the you know, the nineteen sixty seven and the 474 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: It is not about any of those things in the 475 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: American context. And that's what you're seeing on this campus. Now. 476 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: There are some people who take it to that level, 477 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: but overwhelmingly the narrative is white oppressors are harming a 478 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: non white minority who are the victims, and that is 479 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: Israel and that is Palestine. And that is the only 480 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: thing that these protesters really know about this. The only 481 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: thing is that that they feel entirely justified saying you 482 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: have no culture. You how can you say that there 483 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: are Jews from Russia, there are Jews from Ethiopia, their 484 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: Jews you know in Israel I'm talking about, right, Yeah, 485 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean to say you have no culture and also 486 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: the Jews have been there for over two thousand years. 487 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: Well whose culture is it? Really? Right? I mean, this 488 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: is where you start to get into like, you know, 489 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: who's really responsible for fullawfel? Like you can talk about 490 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: this stuff all day long. It's race in America, in 491 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: the Middle East, it's something else, and that I think 492 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: it's interesting. Cly you read off all those names. I 493 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: know it's about Iran, but Iran is doing it because 494 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: of Gaza. That's why they're attacking. I know they say, oh, 495 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: it's because they hit us in Syria and they hit 496 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: the embassy or whatever. But no, they have this mounting 497 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: political pressure and the you know, Hamas is only able 498 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: to do what it does because of the Iranian Backing 499 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: to your point, every single Democrat who voted against condemning 500 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: Iran for their attack on Israel is non white, which 501 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: that's interesting, isn't it. I Mean it's certainly noteworthy. I 502 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: think if we're talking about the that racial politics in 503 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: America play into a Mid East conflict, and why is that? 504 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 1: By the way, you could even take this to Israel 505 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: and Iran. It's the same thing. To be clear, Israel white. 506 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: Iran they think of as brown and you know, Arab brown. 507 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: It's not Arab actually it's Persian, but they think of 508 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: it as brown and oppressed, even though actually Iranians, I mean, 509 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: there's you know, now we're going to do. 510 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: I always like to get sidetracked because this is I 511 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 2: think that the integral issue here is that it's not 512 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 2: only has it completely devolved into a Jewish people are 513 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: white and brown people are oppressed, and they're always the victims, 514 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: even when they are the aggressors and going and killing 515 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: twelve hundred Dinners and Jewish people, which is important here, 516 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: which has started all of this. 517 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what's also just going to be 518 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: a little mind blowing for some of these leftists or 519 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: lips when they figure it out. Iranians are Caucasian basically 520 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: of descent from Caucasus. If you go back and you 521 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: look at a lot of the historical this is where 522 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: we're I mean, it's interesting, but racial politics has basically 523 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: devolved into the era of if you have a drop 524 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: of black blood, which was how we defined slavery in 525 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: like the seventeenth and eighteenth and nineteenth centuries before slavery 526 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: was ended. That's basically where we are. And the thing 527 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: to think about this buck on the Jewish front is 528 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: all these Jewish people who are traditionally left leaning in 529 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: their virtue and their voting They many of these people 530 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: who are still voting Democrats, were involved in the civil 531 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: rights struggle all over the American South and all over 532 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: the nation, supporting black people. As recently as twenty twenty. 533 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: Jewish people thought hey, BLM were with you, I would say, 534 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: as an ethnic group. And then they become the victims 535 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: of a brutal attack on October seventh, perpetrated by an 536 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: awful terrorist, and somehow they are the colonizer, and they 537 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: are the aggressor, and they are the oppressor. And all 538 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: the people that they stood up for for generations to 539 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: try to advocate for their own full humanity and fuel 540 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: voting rights are now turning on them and saying you bad, 541 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: awful white person. And I think it has to be 542 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: a jaw dropping moment. Imagine if you're sixty five and 543 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: you're just a lifelong leftist voter and suddenly you went 544 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: to Columbia or you went to Yale, and you're looking 545 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: around and you thinking to yourself, oh my goodness, this 546 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: is like the nineteen thirties all over again in America, 547 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: and somehow the political party I've spent my entire life 548 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: advocating for raising money, for giving money to is now 549 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: basically espousing Nazi talking points. Imagine what a. 550 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: Unbelievable, discombobulated sense that must provoke on you, which is 551 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: why I think people are going to change their mind. 552 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: But your argument is the legacy of voting in the 553 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: past is so strong that they won't even recognize the 554 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: reality in front of them today, which is a real 555 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: challenge for twenty twenty four. 556 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: I think, unfortunately, that's probably going to be what happens. 557 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: But I love it when I'm pessimistic and I'm wrong. Unfortunately, 558 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen that often, but I do love it. 559 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: But my pessimism is incorrect. So we shall see if 560 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: people change their votes based upon this madness or not. 561 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: I just think it's really important to get these things 562 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 1: right as much as we possibly can. And we want 563 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: to get everything right. That's what we do here on 564 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: the show. We cut through the nonsense, the noise and 565 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: try to speak the truth. And when it comes to 566 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: the stock market and things are looking a little bit 567 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: shaky these days with the economy of the stock market, 568 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: editor and Commas Mark Chakin also cuts through the noise, 569 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: the distraction and the propaganda. 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I will tell you I really enjoyed my 585 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: time in sam baltele Mi was very French. 586 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: You arrive and there, I didn't want to tell people 587 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: where you were because it was so fancy. 588 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: I didn't want. 589 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how much overlapped, did you let he 590 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: made any of our listeners in Saint Bart's. 591 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: Oh no, people came up to me. We had a few. 592 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: We had a few people that were a listener. That's great. 593 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, Oh we had. I was sitting next 594 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: to a cop celebrating his retirement with a French twenty 595 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: five years a Chicago police department. He's like, hey, I 596 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: love you and Clay so no, no, it's look, it's 597 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: a once in a lifetime you know. It's a little 598 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: bit like it's a honeymoon place or a once in 599 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: a lifetime pome for some people. For other people, it's 600 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: like they just go down because whatever I mean. You 601 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: arrive and the French people are like, this island is 602 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 1: so expensive. We will take all of your money and 603 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: you will thank us for it. And it's kind of true. 604 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: It's the most expensive, overpriced place I think you could 605 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: possibly find the most expensive thing you bought, and you 606 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: were like, I cannot believe it costs that, Like you 607 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: went and had like a sandwich or you went like, 608 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: now I'm not talking about a fancy dinner, just like 609 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: you were in disbelief over what something called a tiny 610 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: thing of some block costs sixty dollars. No, yeah, yeah, 611 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: yeah so it was. It was sixty dollars for sunblock. 612 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: Oh oh absolutely, yeah, it was very very expensive. So 613 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: I will say it's beautiful. But there's a reason that 614 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: bezos like arrives there on his super yacht. You know, 615 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: it's a look the French. The problem with the French is, 616 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, they got something I'm speaking in the big 617 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: generalizations here. They got a little attitude, but they've got 618 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: some pretty cool stuff too, Like their food is pretty amazing, 619 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, they they've got the French culture is a 620 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: lot of fun. So you know, that's why they can 621 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: get away with it. But I missed my Crockett coffee, 622 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: is what I was gonna say. They did not have 623 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: Crockett coffee in that. But it's too affordable. It affordable 624 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: America and supply. In fact, Davy Krockett would be like, 625 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: why are you spending all that money with them, with 626 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: them frogs when you could be hanging out with me 627 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: and drinking Crocket coffee. That's a very good question. It's 628 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: a very good question, Davy would ask Crockett Coffee dot com. 629 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: We love how many of you are signing up and joining. Uh. 630 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: You're helping us build a great American brand. Crocketcoffee dot com. 631 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: Please subscribe. If you buy sixty dollars of coffee or more, 632 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: you get free shipping. But the best thing you can 633 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: do is subscribe. You'll also get a night's discount when 634 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: you become a subscriber to get it delivered every month. 635 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: And Clay, I had our team hold this over because 636 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: sometimes we make jokes about doctor Jill Biden. I just 637 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: want to go on the record. We all know that 638 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: she's not a real you know, stethoscope or medical school 639 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: trained doctor. Okay, you know we're in the stethoscope with 640 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: the white lab. We get it. We say it as 641 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: a joke. However, Suzanne our vip rights in more than 642 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: I knew. Actually, Jill Biden does not have a PhD. Oh, 643 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: it is an ed D generally a far easier degree. Furthermore, 644 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: she did not write a dissertation, but an executive position paper, 645 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: something I never heard of in my graduate education or 646 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: years of directing grad students. The abstract starts this executive 647 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: position paper studies student retention in the community college. I 648 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: found it filled with unsubstantiated opinion and hyperbole. I concluded 649 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: I would have accepted I would have accepted it as 650 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: an undergraduate project with lots of constructive criticism. Essentially Suzanne, 651 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: who comes from academia saying, oh, no, doctor Jill Biden 652 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: doesn't even have a PhD. She got like a weaker 653 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: version of that, and her position paper sucked. It was bad. 654 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: Has she ever said anything that made you think, Oh, 655 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 2: she's particularly bright? I mean, the most memorable thing I 656 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: can say she's done in four years as first Lady 657 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: was calling the fine people of San Antonio breakfast, tacos, 658 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 2: the Latino community. 659 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: Oh. She also came up with a new way to 660 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: pronounce the word bodegas. I believe that's right. That's right. 661 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: She's like, I love I go to the bodega all 662 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: the time. You know. Then Joe Biden was like, yeah, bodega. 663 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: I ran bodega twelve years old, five votages. I was 664 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: a guy. 665 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: Did you catch up on the cannibal story? Did that 666 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: even puncture the Saint Barts universe? I mean, that is 667 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 2: one of the most ridiculous of all Biden yep.