1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for calling mother in law 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,439 Speaker 1: by her last name instead of grandma? 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: Call you what? 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: I This is all to answer the question of when 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: is it worth it to stand up for yourself every time? 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Every time? Stand by yourself because no one else will. 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: Severe? Are you okay? 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: No? 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: What stands with me? 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Thank you? 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: Johns so Babe. 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: Miller says, my relationship with my mother in law, Missus Smith, 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: is frap. She's cold me because I kept my last 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: name Miller. She says, I'll treat her like family when 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: she wants to be part of it. She calls me 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Jake's friend. 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: Yikes, ouch oof. 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: My husband, Jake loves me all the same. He doesn't 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: bother standing up to her because it's a way for 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: her to start a fight. We rarely talk to her. 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: She may no effort. 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Neither do we. 23 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: Jake and I discussed whose last name our kids would 24 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: have prior to the birth. Initiated the conversation, but I 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: left the decision up to him. After the birth, the 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: family's visited at the hospital. Jake asked what our son's 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: last name was going to be, and I told him 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: it was still his choice. He smiled and said, little 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: baby Miller, I like it. He filled out the paperwork, 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: and mother in law looked livid. Wait, the Bagler is 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: oh P's last name, and so they're deciding what the 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: last name of the child. 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: Should be, right, and and her husband is saying he 34 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: should have your last exactly. 35 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: That's cute. 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, cute, very cute. But the mother one, I 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: don't think she's going to about, oh god, naming the 38 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: baby after Jake's friend. She started asking questions, but my 39 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: dad started crying. 40 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: Oh, both of my brothers have died. 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: Dad has never mentioned it, but I know passing the 42 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: last name down makes him happy. Neither Jake or I 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: anticipated this, nor did it for this reason, but it 44 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: was sweet all the same. After she left, mother in 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: law let people know what I had done and how 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: now she wouldn't feel like a grandmother. A month later, 47 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: a sister in law announced her pregnancy. Mother in law said, 48 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: finally I'll feel like a grandmother. Oh sweet, so hey, grandma, 49 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: put your dukes up. Okay, maternal grandparents are your grandchildren. 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: But this is going too far. We need three pm PSD. 51 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: Next Tuesday, John Fry gets in the ring with terrible 52 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: annoying mother. 53 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: And blod backyard. We're gonna set up a whole ring. 54 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 3: Knock out of the century. I hate her, woman, Oh 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: my god, I don't even care. I don't even see 56 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: a monster in a in. 57 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: A regulated boxing ring. 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: Okay, only only if she agrees, because if she's like, 59 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 3: if she's like, I'm fighting to defend how terrible I am, 60 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, bring it on, Grandma, let's go agreed. 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: Knock her out. 62 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: Ko Our son started talking during a video call where 63 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: my mother in law did nothing but gush about sister's 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: in law, sister in law's daughter, who's adorable. Jake was 65 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: trying to get the baby to talk. 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: Son lost interest. 67 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: I took son and Jake let mother in law ramble 68 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: some more before ending the call. Mother in law said 69 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: she wanted to say bye to son. Jake turned the phone. 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: Mother in law said say bye to grandma. 71 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: Makes some say it. I'm grandma now, Jesus Christ, lady. 72 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I snapped inside, so I said say bye, 73 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: missus Smith. 74 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: Damn, Yo, that was cold. Damn that was cold. 75 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: My mother in law's face dropped. Jake turned the camera 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: away and said bye quickly. He laughed, said I was awesome, 77 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: but we better put our phones on silent. The only 78 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: call slash text I responded to was the other sister 79 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: in law, who said I didn't need to go out 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: of my way to be nasty. That mother in law 81 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: went around saying how excited she was, but son lie 82 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: that her initial comments were understandable because I talked Jake 83 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: out of tradition I did not, and that I'd hurt. 84 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: Mother in law. 85 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: Mother in law needed time to adjust. I said thank 86 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: you for your input. Mother in law texted eventually saying 87 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: I'd really upset her. I said, here, I was trying 88 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: to respect the importance you feel to last names. You 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: said multiple times, I'm not family because of my last name. 90 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: Oh I I don't don't think I really gathered that. 91 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like flipping it back on her. No, no, no, 92 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: I got that. 93 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: I woul just saying that I didn't understand why the 94 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: grandma was so adamant, like, oh, this is Jake's friend, 95 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: not you know, his partner or his wife. I think 96 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: it's because she kept her last name. And so the 97 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: grandma was like yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I didn't get 98 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: that part. 99 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,119 Speaker 2: You made it more than clear. 100 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: That's the reason my child doesn't make you feel like 101 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: a grandma. Now you'll be known as missus Smith. 102 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: She said sorry, she didn't. 103 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: Mean it that way, but that my dad's reaction was 104 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: an example of how important last names are. Dang I 105 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: now had to forgive her because family. It made me 106 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: angrier that she brought my dad into this. And I 107 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: can't tell if I'm being the a hole or not. 108 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: And there is a small edit. There's two edits, actually 109 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: edit one. Thank you again to everyone who gave awards. 110 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: Jake is home and I had him read the post. 111 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: Some of you really cracked him up. Some made good points, 112 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: which we have discussed. 113 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: Apparently. 114 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,559 Speaker 1: He also got a text from his sister and asked 115 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: how much money she got from mother in law for 116 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: telling me all off. He also made sure to tell 117 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 1: sister in law who have the baby, that we hold 118 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: nothing against her. Should mother in law try to spin 119 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: it that way. She knows mother in law better, thankfully. 120 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: Jake would also like to tell those who are telling 121 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: me I should take his name, but he disagrees, and 122 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: he's not about the sexism you're spewing. Jake sounds great, 123 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: j Jake great. From day one, has been like Mom. 124 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: You're here. I'm not putting up with it. Man, I'm 125 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: not here with it. 126 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: This is my my child, and I'm naming her after 127 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: my wife's last name, and deal with it. 128 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: She wants to keep her last name. Boom, I get 129 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: to decide, my wife. Lets me name our our baby 130 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 3: given it, give her name to honor her. Uh Dad, Dad, 131 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: Dad sound off? 132 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: Sound off? Sound off? Put some Jake's in the chat. 133 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: Jack Jake, though he does now want to send mother 134 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: in law a Christmas card from. 135 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: The Miller's hilarious. Oh oh my god. 136 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: It would be so good if he then changed his name. 137 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: I think that's the only thing that could make Jake 138 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: like even more of a w dude, a king a meme, 139 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: just for the meme. Change your last name. 140 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: Where the Millers, Yeah, dude, where the law is perfect? Amazing. 141 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: Edit to you guys, are being great. I woke up 142 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: too many more responses than I anticipated. Just to clarify, 143 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: my son will not be calling mother in law miss 144 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: a Smith. They barely have a relationship as he's still 145 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: a baby and mother in law makes no effort. After 146 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: some discussion, Jake is going to take some time to 147 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: figure out what he wants from mother in law and 148 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: if he thinks that's possible, and there are some relevant 149 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: comments and did updates. Oh but what are your thoughts here? 150 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what should they do? I think they need 151 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: to have a sit down with the mother in law 152 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: and be like, here's. 153 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: Where you disrespect. I know it's kind of been touched upon, but. 154 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: Like, is where you really disrespected me and and us? 155 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: Because ultimately it was the son's decision to like Opiopy 156 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: literally said this is on. You gave Jake the power, Like, hey, 157 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: whatever you want to do, I'm on board with you 158 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: pick and he was the one that picked Op's last 159 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: name for baby. So, like, I think they they've disrespected 160 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: both of them, but mostly OPI like calling her Jake's 161 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: friend insanity. Yeah, like they've chosen each other's life partner. 162 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: Over literally just her keeping her last name. 163 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: So I think you lay it out and be like 164 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: you you. 165 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: Know, or you're consistent disrespect Yeah, gone too far. 166 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 3: We can be cordial, but if you want to have 167 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: like a real, like actual relationship beyond just like being 168 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: cordial at family functions or whatever, we need to see 169 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: you put in the effort to show with your actions 170 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 3: that you're sorry, not just here are yeah. 171 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: Their marriage to recognize them as you know, a family unit. Yeah, 172 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,599 Speaker 1: and not just her the friend. 173 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: Totally, Like I want to see your at like like 174 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: if she if she now is like lending a helping 175 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: hand obviously stopping this like Jake's friend bs and all this, 176 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: Like if she consistently like put in the work, then 177 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, you know what, she's come around and 178 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: obviously you know you want to have a great grandmother 179 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: for your baby and like all all that stuff. Have 180 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: a good relationship with your partner's mom if she does 181 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: all the actions to prove she's turned round, Okay, yes, 182 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 3: but I need to see it. 183 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: Agreed. Agreed. 184 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: Let's get into these relevant comments, see what they're thinking. 185 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: Let's get after it deleted. 186 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: Says, Oh, can I just say your marriage sounds great. 187 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: The way you wanted the baby's last name to be 188 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: his choice and he chose. 189 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: Yours doesn't get better. 190 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: There's so much love and respect here. And I like 191 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: how he stands by your side in his mother's nonsense. 192 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: You're both awesome, not the able and oh, he says, 193 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: I just assume our son would have his he brought 194 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: it up. He said it was fair since I was 195 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: doing all the work. He said, if he pushed a 196 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: human out of him, he'd want to put his name 197 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: on it, which makes me laugh. I still let it 198 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: be his choice because regardless of his name, I'm going 199 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: to love this kid. If we have a second I 200 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: may insist they get his last name. 201 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: Seems fair, adorable. I am a very lucky woman. 202 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: But it should be noted he wears his gross shoes 203 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: through the house, so not perfect. But he says I 204 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: sleep like an MMA fighter, So I suppose Forrett even 205 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: is she just kicking him? 206 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what did you think that? I 207 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: was thinking, like snoring, right, that's what I thought that. 208 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: I was like, that doesn't make sense for an MMA fighter. 209 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, my girlfriend will randomly. 210 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: She doesn't do this anymore, but she used to like 211 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: ask me questions in her like basically like sleep sleep talking. Yeah, 212 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: instead of sleepwalking. 213 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: He'd be like, sleep into you. We need to reset 214 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: the printer right now. I'm like, we don't have a printer. 215 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 3: And then I'd be like really like getting all worked up, 216 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: and then I'm like, she's asleep. 217 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: She literally don't have a printer. 218 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: We were, uh, yesterday night, we were watching Bridgerton and 219 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 3: I was. 220 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: She was headed in my lap and I was talking 221 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: to her. 222 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: She literally fell asleep as she was responding to me. 223 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 3: This is probably more information than I should be divulging, 224 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: but I thought it was adorable. 225 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 2: Oh that's cute. Anyways. 226 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: Oh, he responds to a comment that answers many points. 227 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is ope or the commentary, 228 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: but we'll see. I don't see a reason why you 229 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: were angry when she told you about your father's reaction. 230 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: Seems a pretty valid point, the importance that the last 231 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: name has for your father and her. This observation doesn't 232 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: excuse her actions, but still a good point. I mean, 233 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: for what you've said, seems like your dad would have 234 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: done any nasty comments, but him crying shows how important 235 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: it is for some people. 236 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a commentary. It's it's kind of weirdly worded, 237 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: but I get what they're saying. 238 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: It's basically like the mom was trying to flip it, 239 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 3: because when the dad heard that they were going to 240 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: name the baby after their last name, he cried because 241 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: it was I think was it the brothers that passed away? 242 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: Opie's brothers both passed away, so there wouldn't have been 243 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: anyone to like carry the name. 244 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: And that was like meaningful to him, of course, But 245 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: to have the mother in law try and flip that 246 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: around for her bastard eyed like, yeah, no one in 247 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: their family passed away or anything like that. I think 248 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: it was because of the grief and everything that the 249 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: father was crying and it's just so slimy. Yeah, flip 250 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: it back around on them, very icky, very hate that. 251 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: And then Opie response to that, mother in law divorced 252 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: the man whose last name she took. It wasn't even 253 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: her original name, and she has another son who is 254 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: going to have kids. My husband wasn't her only option, 255 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: and my father lost two sons. My dad's reaction comes 256 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: from a very emotional place, and frankly he knew he 257 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: wasn't entitled to it. He simply appreciates it. Even father 258 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: in law didn't care. And again, this decision was made 259 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: by my husband with my full support. Why isn't she 260 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: mad at him? 261 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: Father in law also w. 262 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah ws, but there is an update. 263 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: But the verdict was not the a hole. 264 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: Which I agree with, I wholeheartedly, willheartedly agree with all 265 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: my heart agrees. 266 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: All of my heart says, not the ahle, it's written 267 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: in my blood vessels. 268 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's demographic. 269 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know what it is, it's the it's 270 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: the grape surgery robot doesn't what happened to the grape 271 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: surgery robots totally fell off? 272 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 273 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it's doing real surgeries now. 274 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: You know, hopefully. Yeah, maybe that was just training. 275 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, stop stop cutting grape. Stop God, there's real people. 276 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 3: Why are you helping me? 277 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: It's like the beginning part of the neuralink thing because 278 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: they're teaching the robots how to do that, and so 279 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: maybe they were they started on grapes. I think we 280 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: need all conjecture. 281 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: Let's throw the grapes in the trash and let's start 282 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: helping real humans. That's what I say, Yes, John, But 283 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: back to off of this complete tangent, what do we have? 284 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: What do we have? Next time? Give to this update. 285 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 286 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: Jake and I appreciate all the support, though Jake wants 287 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: the d m rs to know that he's okay with 288 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: me taking his balls because he loses everything anyway. 289 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: Oh dear, what what? 290 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: This brought him a good chuckle before the serious talk. 291 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: We both also want to be very clear that taking 292 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: his name was never on the table, nor does he care. 293 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: I also do want to say I know how great 294 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: Jake is, though since the post he's been demanding I 295 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: think the world's best husband. Anytime he does something for me. 296 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: His humor is my favorite part of him. 297 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: They literally just keep getting cutter. There's okay, they keep 298 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: getting more adorable. 299 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: Because it's his mom. I let him decide how to 300 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: handle it. We both did agree that our son would 301 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: obviously know mother in law as his grandma, but he 302 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't have a relationship with her unless she addressed the 303 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: blatant favoritism. That conversation did not go ill. She denied 304 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: having favorites, lied about pretty much everything, then told me 305 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: the compromise she was willing to make was that if 306 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: she had to accept me for who I am, being 307 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: that I kept that name, I'd have to accept her 308 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: for who she is. I don't understand the logic there. 309 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: That makes no sense. 310 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: She's like, if I have to accept that you have 311 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: a different last name, than you have to accept me 312 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: being horrible. 313 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: One of these things is not like the other. 314 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: I didn't respond before Jake ripped into her about how 315 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: she didn't get to make demands, that she was critical 316 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: of me, assume things that he already told her weren't true, 317 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: that this conversation was happening because we didn't accept who 318 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: she was. And he said, if he ever heard her 319 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: make another comment about the Miller last name, you'd take it. 320 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: Oh, you'd take one, he'd take the last name. Oh 321 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: my god, he would change his names. 322 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: Threat. Dude, that what a threat? Kill her? 323 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: Threat? 324 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: Threat? 325 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: Oh, she started crying about losing her family, and he 326 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: hung up. One sister in law, who is mother in 327 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: law's favorite child, sent me a nasty message, including the line, 328 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: I wonder if your dead brother would be happy you 329 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: used him to break mother in law's heart? 330 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? 331 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: How did Jake become such a like a lovely person 332 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: when he comes from this family of. 333 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: Whole family line is poison poisoned, poisoned with awfulness, awful? 334 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: Like who says that? Who says that? 335 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: Even the mother in law didn't bring I mean, the 336 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: closest she got to bring it up was, oh, well, 337 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: you gave your child the dad's last name. But that's 338 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: the closest she got to bring up her family. 339 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: There's like there's like very disrespectful and very rude, and 340 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: then there's like saying something inexcusable. 341 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: Truly, Yeah, yeah, no, this is just like that is 342 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: completely inexcusable. How like, how could you think that the's okay, 343 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: just stooped to that, to that low disgusting. 344 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 2: But oh, pe has a little clapback. 345 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: I sent the screenshots to mother in law and said, 346 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: call off your dog, or I'll take her to the pound. 347 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: Pork poro, pork port that's right. 348 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Don't mess with the millers. Don't do it because they bite. 349 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: Or we'll release the hounds. Yeah. 350 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: I have sent a screenshot of that to anyone who 351 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: has tried to question me. Wait, does she send a 352 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: screenshot of of what the sister in law said or 353 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: the screenshot that she said. 354 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: To the mother in law with that comment? I think 355 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: the screenshot to the mother in law, Like. 356 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope it's that double screenshot that she said. 357 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: That's perfect cause you get you get what they've said, 358 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: and then you also get Ope. 359 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: We need the clarification, Yeah, we need it. 360 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: Oh, if they tried to defend mother in law or 361 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: sister in law, I blocked them. Word got around quickly 362 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: about this, and now sister in law is all but 363 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: cut out of father in law's side at the family. 364 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: Even father in law had come down on her hard. 365 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: Sister in law is desperately trying to apologize and fix this. 366 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: She even allowed Jake to read everything mother in law 367 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: sent to her about my last name. 368 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 2: I tried to. 369 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: Read some of it but stopped. I don't want to 370 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: be angry. I'm taking time to decide how to handle this. 371 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 2: Wait, so let me get this straight. 372 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: So the sister in law was like evil and said 373 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: the thing about the dead brother, right, and then she's like, oh, 374 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 3: but look about look at what mom said. Like Mom 375 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: was saying. 376 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: Terrible things too. Mom did a word. 377 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 3: That's like, you're not taking responsibility. You're just trying to 378 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 3: schlep it on someone else. 379 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: You're just trying to freaking scapegoat, and it's not gonna work. 380 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: Everyone recognizes you for the dog. 381 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: I hate it. 382 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, this family sucks. I hope they run away 383 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: and he changes his name. 384 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: Just give me too. Me freaking here. 385 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: I am happy to be done with mother in law. 386 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: She never really bothered me. It does take a lot 387 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: to get to me. 388 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 2: That is That's it. She never really bothered you. After 389 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: all of that, I would be bothered. Wow. 390 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: Impressive. It does take a lot to get to me. 391 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: But I don't want her behavior and attitudes to be 392 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: normalized with my son. I wasn't prepared for motherhood to 393 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: have such a strong effect. Jake did admit he gave 394 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: my son my last. 395 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: Name or my dad. 396 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: Okay, because before they said it was it wasn't intentional, 397 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: and now we know he's saying that he did it 398 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: for the dad. 399 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: My dad actually did the same thing. 400 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: He named me completely after my mom's dad because he 401 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: passed away just before they got pregnant. 402 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: That's that's lovely, pretty durable, right, that's really really cute. 403 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so your your grandpa's name. 404 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: I have my maternal grandfather's full name, and they just 405 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: slapped fry on the end of it. That's why you 406 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: have two middle names. That's why I have two middle names, 407 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: and your two middle names are John Randolph park Hill Fry. 408 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: So my grand my grandfather, my maternal grandfather, was John 409 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 3: Randolph park Hill. That was his full name, and they 410 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: just slapped a fry on it. 411 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, word, I love that. A word. 412 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: Years ago, my dad asked if Jake was gonna propose 413 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: to me. Jake said, if my dad wanted to know, 414 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: he would give him a heads up, but he wouldn't 415 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: ask for his blessing or permission. 416 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: In many more. 417 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 1: Words, Dad said he had never had any expectations of that. 418 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: He didn't worry about gender roles, that he was glad 419 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: he would gain a son again. Jake didn't feel obligated. 420 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: He just wanted to do that or my dad. Sincerely, 421 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: thank you all. Edit. Hey, everyone, I didn't expect to 422 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: wake up to this amount of messages. Mother in law 423 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: took father in law's name. They're divorced. They have two 424 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: daughters and two sons. Brother in law and ten stuff 425 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: children and we'll pass on the Smith name. Sister in 426 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: law has a daughter whose sister in law who has 427 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: sister in law's husband's name. Sister in law also took 428 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: his name. The youngest sister in law is the one 429 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: who sent the text. So we're just getting clarification. 430 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: We need a whiteboard is on the way, guys, We're 431 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: gonna get a whiteboard soon. 432 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to apologize for how I spoke to 433 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: mother in law after she encouraged her daughter to use 434 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: my brother like that. There is text proof that mother 435 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: in law did this, so. 436 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 2: They were in on it. 437 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: They were both in on it, the mother in law 438 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: and sister in law. 439 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: Not surprised at all. In the slightest sister in. 440 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: Law showed Jake, I have no intentions on seeking therapy 441 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: or a relationship with either of them, and that's the 442 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: most that can be asked of me in this upset 443 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: of a state if slash, when we have a second child, 444 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: I always intended for them to get Jake's last name. 445 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: Jake knows and is cool with it. 446 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: Jake is willing to be called by my last name, 447 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: but I doubt he'll actually change it. Neither of us 448 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: are willing to do paperwork out of spite either. Yes, 449 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: I still cry remembering my dad cry about this. I 450 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: always assume did this for this reason. He really is 451 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: a great man. And there are some comments to finish 452 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: the story off s Margo says, you've got yourself a 453 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: great husband. Not a lot of people could stand their 454 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: ground like he did. Good luck to both of you 455 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: and your little son. Opie says he's always been able 456 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: to stand up for himself. I won't say it didn't 457 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: get to him especially what his sister did, but he 458 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: just runs it out. He may also make himself a 459 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: World's Best Husband t shirt if he sees more compliments. 460 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: But he does deserve it. 461 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: And Rafster says would he consider changing his name to 462 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: Miller or that just pour more gas on the fire, 463 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: and Opie says, yes, he would, but he tries not 464 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: to let Anger make his decisions. I also don't think 465 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: he would because of the paperwork required, and he does 466 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: everything he can to avoid it, including bribe me to 467 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: do it. And fan Pal says that line call your 468 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: dog off or I'll take her to the pound, so 469 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: bloody good, and Opie. 470 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: Says, I didn't mean it violently. 471 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: Either just keep your yapping dog in your yard, or 472 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: I'll make it someone else's problem. Sister in law is 473 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: still yapping, just more whiny now. I don't think she 474 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: realized her family would draw a line in the sand. 475 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: The majority aren't necessarily taking her side, but it's clear 476 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: they're staying out of it because defending her isn't really 477 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: an option. And that is where that story ends, and 478 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: it seems pretty pretty positive. 479 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think ends well. Jake is literally 480 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: w husband, father in law is w father in law. 481 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: We love to see it. What was the question for 482 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: this episode? 483 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: The question for this episode is when is it? Yeah, 484 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: when is it worth it to stand up for yourself? 485 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: And I think it was worth it now. 486 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, it's hard to imagine a scenario 487 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 3: not I guess there's a few scenarios where it's like 488 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: maybe someone you don't interact with much, and it's like 489 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 3: maybe it's not even worth it. But like I feel 490 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 3: like almost every scenario, yeah, think of one. 491 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think maybe in this scenario it could have 492 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: gone or she could have been thinking, oh, well, it's 493 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: this family. 494 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to rock the boat, right right. 495 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: But I think I think it worked out very well 496 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: for everybody. 497 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, or for them at least. 498 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: To get these this horrible family offer. 499 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 3: Baty, the mother in lawsys and the laws sucked, sucked, sucked. 500 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: I hate them more than grapes. You hate grapes, I 501 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: do why because the robots are only performing surgery on them. 502 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: They're getting all the surgery. It's prejudice. We talked about it, yeah, right, 503 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: right right, I see I hate the grapes. I thought 504 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: you like hate grapes. It is like a fruit. 505 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 3: Oh, I love Actually I love eating them. Which is 506 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: which is you just hate scoring them? 507 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 508 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 3: I just hate that they're getting all of the surgery 509 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 3: that we should get. Yeah, come on, you love healthcare. 510 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's freaking go. Anyways, seems like a rap on 511 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: That seems like a rap on that story. But Sophia, 512 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 2: that's not a rap on the episode? What are you talk? 513 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: How dare you try to end? This episode? Is over? 514 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: This episode is over? Are you kidding me? 515 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: No? 516 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: No, no, but don't don't. Don't use that you mean 517 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: to end it? 518 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: No, no, you mean no, No, just kidding because we 519 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: have another story? Am I the a hole for struggling 520 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: to forgive my husband for getting petty revenge? Don't forgive them. 521 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: Don't forgive them be petty, be petty er. And this 522 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: is the answer the question when is it worth it 523 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: to stand up for yourself? 524 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 3: The story comes from throw away address Size, who says 525 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 3: husband thirty four male and I thirty two female, have 526 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: been married for six years. Two months ago, I stopped 527 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: him from going on a bachelor's trip with his long 528 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: term school friends. I was okay and was kind of 529 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: looking forward to him having fun until I learned the 530 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 3: fact that he would be doing a lot of adult 531 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 3: themed activities, think strippers and happy ending massages. 532 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: No, she doesn't want him to have an happy ending, Sofia, 533 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: why not? 534 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: You know what? 535 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know what that was for the longest time, 536 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: and I learned about it from Shit's Creek. 537 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: Sofia, you are too innocent? You are you are? You 538 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 2: are ab a a wee babe that just sees all 539 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: of the goodness. You're like, happy ending, Happy endings are great. 540 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 2: I last fairy tales and stories. 541 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: I remember watching the Shit's Creek scene where they're like, 542 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: do you know the scene that I refined? 543 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: No? 544 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: No, no, So the two characters are getting married and 545 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: one of them buys him like a massage. Yeah, and 546 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: he comes back and he's like, I've never had a 547 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: happy ending for thank you so much. And he's like 548 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: like what what are you talking about? I didn't pay 549 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: for that, And I was like, what what's the big deal? 550 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: Because they got all the knots out that was the 551 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 3: happy ending, right story results Yeah, oh sweet sweet, and 552 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: this is Sophia. Well they had all of that as 553 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: part of their itenerary. Happy ending massages included. 554 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's crazy. 555 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 3: It sadly happens many many times. We've talked about it before. 556 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: It's like, why is that normal for it? 557 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 2: I don't understand. 558 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: I don't understand why it's normal, And also why you 559 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't tell your like, ask your partner. 560 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: That's the thing. Well, you didn't even want to do it. 561 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: Why would you want to do that? Well, Sophia, it 562 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: caused a huge fight. 563 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 3: I wonder why, as we've always maintained that this is 564 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: a deal breaker for me, and the fact that he 565 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: hid it from me made it worse. He argued that 566 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: he only did it because of my tendency to overreact. 567 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: I'm going to this man, Babe, you're. 568 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: Always over reacting, Babe. Just just chill. 569 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: And of course he wouldn't engage in those activities, but 570 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: that didn't mean he couldn't go. 571 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, he wouldn't engage other thevities. So he's 572 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: basically saying like, I'm not gonna. 573 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: Do the actual I'm gonna participate, but I want to, but. 574 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: I want to go my boys, the friends. But the 575 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: thing is that what else are you going to be doing? 576 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: If that's the whole weekend, You're just gonna be sitting 577 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: back in your hotel room. It seems like this whole 578 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: friend group is that's their vibe, very very naughty vibes. 579 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: And if you continue to you know, uh, what's the word, 580 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: like say you're okay. 581 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: Enable it, then it's going to keep happening. 582 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: If you have a real friend, you should be able 583 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: to sit down and be like, look, I'm not comfortable 584 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: with whatever you want to do. But like me and 585 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: my this is what me and my wife have, This 586 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: is our relationship. Like, here's here's a quick question before 587 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: real quick, before we get back into it. Can he 588 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: ask him to not do that on this trip? 589 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 590 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: So? 591 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: So put yourself in Opie's husband's juice. So it's like, 592 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: all right, all my friends are doing this bachelor trip. 593 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: I want to obviously, you know, celebrate with my friend 594 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: before it gets married. 595 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: Da da. 596 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: But they're like, hey, we're doing these happy ening massages 597 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: and getting all these strippers. You sit down and you're like, hey, 598 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: I can't do that. I think, yeah, can you? Can 599 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: you ask him to not do it on his own 600 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: bachelor trip? Is what I'm what I'm asking. 601 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: I think you could say, hey, I am not comfortable 602 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: my wife and I aren't comfortable with the activities that 603 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: you guys are going to do. 604 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: I would still like to be there. 605 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: Is there any way we could, you know, do something 606 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: like have a day at least if you still want 607 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: to do that, okay, but if we could have a 608 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: day or something where we can. 609 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: Do any activity that is not erect. 610 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a different activity that is a little bit 611 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: more appropriate. 612 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's like, hey, look, you do you do 613 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: what you want, but like, I'm not going to be 614 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: participating in this and if you want me there, these 615 00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: are the terms. 616 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: But also if you had a conversation like that, it's 617 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: maybe not implicit, but that kind of assumes that you 618 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: would have told your your partner yet that he uh's 619 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: husband hid it from her. 620 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: No, he's making all of the incorrect decisions. He one 621 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: hit it from her, then told her that she was overreacting. 622 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: Ah, no, that she always over she always reacts. He sucks, 623 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: he sucks. He This man is not a jake. My cadulli, Oh, 624 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: this is this is This is not a jake. Can 625 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: tell you that for free, this is zero three ninety nine. 626 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: This guy is no ja. He's no jake. 627 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Pamela Roja says, wouldn't marry any of 628 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: those guys? 629 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: You very true? 630 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone on this on this Bachelor trip is disco unmarriable, unmarriable. 631 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: Man oh man, No, this is I don't know. I 632 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: think it's right now based off well we know about 633 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: this guy. I do not trust him saying, oh, I'm 634 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: not going to. 635 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: Participate in that, because that's the thing, like he probably 636 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: was like, let me not tell her so he could 637 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: participate in it and it would have been a secret 638 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: the whole time. 639 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: But now she knows. Now she knows, and he's just 640 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: trying to be like, oh, I wasn't going to participate, 641 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: but you know. 642 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 3: You just you just always over reacts, baby, Yeah, you 643 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: know that that boundary that you said I could never cross. 644 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: I just just don't. 645 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: She just put my toe over the line, don't worry. 646 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: Just one little toe, okay, just a little toe free 647 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: contact like that. It's okay, it's locked up, socked locked up. 648 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: What I'm not going to show my feet, but I am. 649 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm wearing socks. 650 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: Don't they're so dirty? They covered it dust because I ran? 651 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: Why did you show them on camera? 652 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: Editor? 653 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: Please edit that out or keep it, keep it. 654 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: Sarah Shock says, maybe the friends fiance is okay with 655 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: it though, so it wouldn't be cheating there. Yeah, there's 656 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: a chance for the fiance and his wife are having 657 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: going on. But regardless of that, this is about O P. 658 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: This is about yeah, this is their relationship, which exactly, And. 659 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: Someone said, uh, would Jake have done it? And then 660 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: so I was like, yeah, that adds a whole new meeting. 661 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: Got what would Jake do? 662 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: What would Jake do? Put it on? Put it on 663 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: a bracelet? 664 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: They got lots of bracelets of that already out, so 665 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 1: you can just you can just get it right now. 666 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: And then everyone's like, oh my god, that's that's what 667 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: would you say? No, Jake, Jake, my boy, Jake, my boy. Okay, 668 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: step aside, Jesus, there's a new marriage like taking your name, 669 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: but there's more as a story. 670 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: So I would have been fine with him going okay 671 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: if he told me about the itinerary, and I would 672 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 3: have trusted the fact that he would keep away. So 673 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: if he came forth with it, if he came forth 674 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 3: with it and was honest, she would have believed that 675 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: he would have stayed away because he was honest about well, 676 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 3: if he had come to her. 677 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: And said, hey, this is what's happening. I'm not going 678 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: to be participating, but I want to go to support 679 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: my friend. Totally different than him going not telling her 680 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: and then saying you're overreacting. I'll react this Jesus, I. 681 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: Would have been no word, just sounds. 682 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: What he did broke my trust, and the only way 683 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: I could see him earning it back is if he 684 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 3: voluntarily told his friends that he couldn't come, which he did. 685 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: WHOA, Okay, I still don't trust him away. 686 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: At the time, he looked really apology and we made up. 687 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: He took me to go shopping and all was good. 688 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 3: I bought some fashionable outfits and was looking to wear 689 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: them ahead of the summer. Where we live, it's still 690 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 3: a little cold, and I didn't get to immediately dress 691 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: up in the clothes that I bought. Also, most of 692 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 3: my summer clothes had shrunk in the washer, so I 693 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 3: practically only had oversized casuals and these clothes. 694 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: That I had just bought. How are you washing your 695 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: clothes A thousand new rewatered? 696 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: Be more careful a thousand no, a thousand degrees or 697 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 3: not that A few weeks later, it started to get warmer, 698 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: and as I slip into my new dress, it feels tight. 699 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 3: I'm confused. I just tried them on in the store 700 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 3: in imsize fourteen, as the label on the dress said. So, no, 701 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 3: I didn't get the wrong size in the store. 702 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: Did he? 703 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: Did the husband shrink those dresses too? I sei used 704 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: in the My first thought was cheating, but then my 705 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: second thought was she would recognize the dresses, So did 706 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: you shrink them? 707 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 3: I'm very because she's like, I RECOGNI these dresses. It's 708 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 3: the same size, that is my right size. Yet it's small. 709 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 3: But I haven't worn or washed it yet. 710 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm confused. I think I see an I see you. Guys, 711 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: I see you. I don't see you. 712 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 3: I think I see you. I think I see you. Actually, 713 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: let me let me text it to Riley because they 714 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 3: don't want to just spoil it with everyone. 715 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: But I want to have it right now. No, No, 716 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: we're gonna get We're gonna get confirmed to do this 717 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: on on. 718 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: My D and D podcast, where sometimes there's like a 719 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: hit point that they're trying to reach and the d 720 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: M Brendan Lee Mulligan write down the amount just so 721 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: everyone knows that. 722 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: You know that is true? Riley, did you get my message? 723 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 2: Do you see it? You see what I'm saying? See 724 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Find out if John I don't see it. 725 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: Sophia doesn't even know. I don't even know. She's just 726 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 2: completely close. It is good. Has with the world, not 727 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: a single clue. 728 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 3: So then another dress was tight, same with the pants 729 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 3: and other tops. I see it, I don't see it. 730 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 3: I start feeling absolutely crazy. Had I just put on 731 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: so much weight in a matter of a few weeks 732 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 3: that my new dresses didn't even fit. I've always been 733 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: a bit sensitive about my body looks, and I remember 734 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 3: telling my husband how excited I was about these new 735 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 3: clothes that looked so flattering on me, and now they look. 736 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 2: So hideous on me. I started crying on the floor. Ooh, 737 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: I think I might see you. I was too embarrassed 738 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: to tell my husband this. I thought he must have 739 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: noticed if I had put on weight. I was a wreck. 740 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: I was feeling crazy for a few weeks. Now, even 741 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 3: the clothes that I had on before felt tighter. I 742 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 3: didn't know if it was placebo or reality, but it 743 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: didn't help my husband. A few days ago during dinner, 744 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 3: said he wanted to confess something. I think the U 745 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 3: we've seen is about to be revealed. He was snickering 746 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 3: while saying this, and what he said absolutely crushed me. 747 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 3: He said this while I was gone to see my 748 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 3: sister who had just had a baby for a week. 749 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 3: He had secretly taken all of my outfits that he 750 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: knows I routinely wear and gave them to a local 751 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 3: tailor to make them a size or two smaller. 752 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: I did not see that. 753 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: You, to be fair, I also didn't see that. You 754 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 2: didn't see the mine was. I'll read the text for beati. 755 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 3: He gave the clothes for another girl to wear a cheater, 756 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 3: so basically like he was cheating with a girl and 757 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 3: to be like because he's like I thought, he was like, 758 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 3: actually so evil. He started taking all of Opie's clothes, 759 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: giving it to his a fair partner to wear, and 760 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 3: then washing them, not realizing it. 761 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 2: Was too small. But that's a very in depth flint. 762 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 3: I was like, if this is right, it's gonna be specific. Yeah, 763 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 3: it would have been all time, but. 764 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: Now I did not. I thought pregnant maybe, Oh yeah, 765 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: that's a good one. That's a good one. I did 766 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: not see this. You well, we didn't see it, but 767 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: I digress. We know it now, so let's keep going. 768 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 2: He said. 769 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 3: He paid him generously to stitch things faster and said, sorry, 770 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 3: but it felt like a funny payback for what I 771 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 3: had done stopping. 772 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 2: Him from going on them. 773 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god, he sucks buddy, buddy, old pal, except 774 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 3: you're not my pal. 775 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 2: This is really bad. We're up there. Hey, I just 776 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: wanted to get you back after I betrayed your trust. Wow. 777 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, I know, I know I did something wrong, 778 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: but actually you deserve to be punished for it. 779 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 780 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 3: You you punished me for doing something actually wrong. So 781 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna punish you because I yeah, and. 782 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm actually going to wreck your self confidence and make 783 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 1: you think. 784 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 2: That you're crazy. Yeah, it's gonna be great. It's gonna 785 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: be fine, baby. 786 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: It was. 787 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 2: It was a little prank, and to do that, I'm 788 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 2: going to go. 789 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: To the tailor and have them restitch all of your clothes, 790 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: like kind of psycho psychotic. 791 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 3: I said, that wasn't funny. He made me feel crazy. 792 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 3: I was crying and screaming at that point. He severed 793 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 3: my sense of self and made me feel ugly. Eventually, 794 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 3: I tried to be okay, but I'm not. 795 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 2: I would not be I would break up with him 796 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: on the spot. No, this is crazy. You're done. I'm 797 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 2: still reeling from what he did as a petty revenge. 798 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 3: It's been some time since he confessed and offered to 799 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,479 Speaker 3: get them stitched back to their original size. 800 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 2: I mean offered. 801 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: He offered to get them stitched if any like one, 802 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: I would have dumped him for the first thing, and 803 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: then I wouldn't dumped him here again. But the fact 804 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: that he wasn't immediately going to get them fixed after 805 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: this prank was revealed, and he was like, oh, well, 806 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: woul do you want me to get them restitched? Obviously 807 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: she wants you to get them restitched. 808 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 2: Those are her clothes, But Babe, I don't know if 809 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 2: you maybe, Babe, I don't know if you. 810 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 3: Want to have them as your goal clothes. He slimmed. A. 811 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 3: He's just he just he keeps digging his grade deeper. 812 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 3: He's like, Babe, actually, like what if what if we 813 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 3: reframed this as a way for both of us. 814 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: He's like, I understand that you're mad, but I think 815 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: that you're overreacting. 816 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm back to over Let's go back to the overreactions. Baby. 817 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 2: This is exhibit A. Babe, I told you I just 818 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 2: restitched all of your clothes, but it was it was 819 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 2: for you, trying to help, trying to help, trying, and 820 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: you're punishing me again. 821 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 3: Not to sound crazy, there was also a happy ending 822 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 3: somewhere involved in the story, too, right. 823 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: That didn't actually happen. Actually, so the Bachelor trip was 824 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: going to have happy endings. I don't know why they 825 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: specified that it was going to have happy endings, but 826 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna have happy. 827 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 2: Endings and strippers. 828 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: And so op was like, I'm not comfortable with that, 829 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: and so he didn't go, And now he's punishing her 830 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: for not letting him go. 831 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 2: But he was the board, huh, I'm on board. 832 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he was gonna go and not tell 833 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: her even though that's a specific boundary that she's like 834 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 3: laid out for them in the relationship. Yes, Opie says, 835 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 3: I'm struggling with what he just did. I want to 836 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: forgive him. Opie wants to forgive him, don't bring him 837 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 3: back in he wants to do. I never knew how 838 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 3: resentful he was of me about that trip. Maybe it's 839 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 3: my fault. No, no, wrong, I should have been more trusting. No, 840 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 3: I knew he would never cheat. What in my heart 841 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 3: I knew he would keep away and from his POV. 842 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 3: His petty revenge on me probably feels deserved. 843 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 2: Wrong, this is stop, this is bad. 844 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 3: I would be mad too if he stopped me from 845 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 3: doing something I was looking forward to. But still, if 846 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 3: you were me, how would you feel? Has anyone had 847 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 3: their spouse do petty revenge on them? 848 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 2: Is that the end of the story? It is over? 849 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 2: That is I need comments? I need comments. 850 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 3: There no relevant comments, there's updates, there's nothing, there's no edits, 851 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 3: there's nothing. 852 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: I need someone to tell this girl that she's like, 853 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 1: she needs to get out of this relationship right now. 854 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 2: As Pamela Rojas says, row. 855 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: And don't look back your your tailored clothes, which someone 856 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: said I which was a great point. Someone said to 857 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: make them smaller, they would have to cut fabric off. 858 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: So it's not like he can restitch these clothes anyway. 859 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: He has to buy her a whole new wardrobe. Yeah, 860 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: this is this is where did he even find this tailor? 861 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 3: The It's like, not only the fact that he thought 862 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 3: of this like so weirdly specifically horrible thing. But the 863 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 3: fact that he went through with that, he like paid 864 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 3: him extra to do it quickly. So he Opie, don't 865 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 3: don't go back to this man. No, he's just he's horrible. 866 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 3: He showed you in multiple instances true color. 867 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 1: No, he showed you the first time after the first 868 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: time of not telling you what he was going to 869 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: be doing at. 870 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 3: This bachelor party, and he wasn't. The big thing for 871 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 3: me was he wasn't like, you know what, you were 872 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 3: totally right. I broke the trust. This is something you've 873 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 3: specifically relaid out as a boundary. I didn't respect that. 874 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 3: I I messed up, and I'm going to you know, uh, 875 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 3: do you want me to not go on this trip? 876 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 3: Like what would make what would be meaningful to you 877 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 3: to show that I'm like making a change in the 878 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 3: positive direction? He said, I didn't want to tell you you'd. 879 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: Overreact, and he made her think that. 880 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: He then made her think that he was apologetic when 881 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: he didn't go, like when he chose not to go 882 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: on the trip. 883 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 3: Yes he was, he was lying, yeah, And then he 884 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 3: pulled this weirdly sinister prance. He knew, he knew how 885 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 3: much this would hurt her. That's the thing it was. 886 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 3: It was so it wasn't like, uh, I can't even 887 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 3: think of another example. 888 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 2: Was it like a freaking. 889 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: Whoopee cushion under the chair? Yeah, this was psychological torture. 890 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: Psychological She made her think that she was crazy, and 891 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: then made her doubt her self confidence and then made 892 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: her feel like she was going to be unlovable. She 893 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: was literally she said she was embarrassed to tell her 894 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: husband about it. And now and now our self confidence 895 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: is like we see that it is impacted because she's saying, oh, well, 896 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: maybe I deserved this treatment. 897 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,720 Speaker 3: There's a certain chant that I'd like to chime in, Unison, 898 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 3: Are you ready, Sophia ready? 899 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 2: Divor devor DeVos? 900 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 3: That's it now, that's literally, that's literally all we can 901 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 3: say here, and to maybe she wrote very quickly, answer 902 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 3: this question, when is it worth it to stand up 903 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 3: for yourself? 904 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 2: My god? Please? Please? 905 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: She hasn't stood up for herself yet, and I need 906 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: her to. That's right, I mean she I mean she 907 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: did after with the kind of with the bachelor party, 908 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: but I need her to to do it now because 909 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,720 Speaker 1: she doesn't deserve this treatment. 910 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 2: You deserve to be far, far away from from this man. 911 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 2: Far You deserve a jake. You deserve a jake, not 912 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 2: a spencer breach.