1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Boone says it all the time, like, you know, we're 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: running out of descriptors and adjectives for him, and I 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: think that's true. 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: And here we go, Gary Phillips joining us right now 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: as we head into what is at the moment the 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: biggest series of the regular season for both the Mets 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: and the Yankees. Of course there's the rivalry side of things, 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: but Gary, the return of Juan Soto is a pretty 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: big deal here. So you can follow Gary at Gary H. Phillips, 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: beat writer for the New York Daily News. Gary, great 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: to have you on here. Tell us what to expect. 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: Hey, great to be here. Thanks for having me on. 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 3: Guys. 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: I would expect a lot of booze. I think, you know, 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: one had to quote recently that it was going to 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: be maybe fifty thousand versus one. I don't know if 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be exactly that. I'm sure Mets fans 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: will make their way into the Bronx and pack Yankee 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Stadium a little bit, but there will definitely be some noise. 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be like last year Whereankee fans were 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: cheering back and forth with him, and you know, he 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: was going back at him and they were waving Dominican 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: flags all around the bleacher creatures. 24 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: I would not expect any of that. 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: This is not going to be friendly territory for him 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: tonight anymore. 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: Is there a possible scenario that he could have left 28 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: and not gotten booed? Because don't forget this man was 29 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 4: an MVP candidate. He took them to the World Series 30 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: that the Yankees haven't been to since two thousand and nine. 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 4: Is it because he signed with the Mets, or is 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 4: it because he signed with any other team than the Yankees. 33 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: He was gonna get booed no matter what. 34 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a Mets element to it. You know, 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if he comes back as you know, 36 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jay, is he getting booed as much as 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: he might tonight and over the next three days. I 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: don't know who's to say. You know, maybe if he 39 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: signs with the Dodgers, it's, you know, a very similar 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: treatment that he's gonna get tonight. I think there's definitely 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: something to the Subway series rivalry, the big brother Little Brother, 42 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: their element that's always existed between these two teams in 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: this city. I think that's gonna add to it tonight. 44 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: Does that mean the Mets are in Yankees fans heads. 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: That I wouldn't known. It seems like there's definitely been 46 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: a lot of back and forth on social media with 47 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: regards to Sodo this season. It seems like everything he does, 48 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, if it's good, Mets fans are 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: making a huge deal out of it. If it's bad, 50 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a defensive blunder or something like that, 51 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: or being now performed by Trent Grisham. Now Yankees fans 52 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: make a big deal of that on social media. I 53 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: don't know if he's if Mets fans are in their 54 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: heads or vice versa, anything like that, but it definitely 55 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: seems like the Sodo element, this rivalry has magnified things 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 5: You talk about magnifying For a guy that's been a 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 5: part of him on both sides, I think it's truly special. 59 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 5: The Subway series is one of a kind. Do you 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 5: see this one though in recent years, this one being 61 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 5: a little more signigant and understandable, like this is for 62 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 5: big time bragging rights, because at the end of the year, 63 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 5: no matter what happens, one side's gonna get over on 64 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 5: the other. Do you see this one being probably one 65 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 5: of the biggest Subway series of all. 66 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: It certainly feels like that going into it. I mean, 67 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: not only do you have the sodoness of it all, 68 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: like both teams are in first place, both teams are 69 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: seen as championship contenders, they're financial heavyweights. You've got all 70 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: these other cross team ties with Carlos Mendoza, Clay Holmes, 71 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the relationship now guys have with Aaron Boone 72 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: from playing with him previously. So there's a lot of 73 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: different storylines here that make this an enticing matchup, aside 74 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: from Juan Soto, and then obviously Juan Soto is just 75 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: a huge storyline with anything that he does. 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: So for a long time, obviously, the Yankees have run 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: the city with baseball, and this goes back whatever one 78 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: hundred something years point or whatever year they existed and 79 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: started things up. I feel like, you know, growing up 80 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: in the Tri State area, you see Mets fans root 81 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: for the Mets, but also keep a very close eye 82 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: on the Yankees. With Yankee fans, it was kind of 83 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: a mix. Obviously, you know, the Mets haven't had nearly 84 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: the success. Do you think that changes now. I'm not 85 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: saying Mets fans are going to stop paying attention to 86 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: the Yankees. But do you think Yankee fans over the 87 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: next let's call it five years. For now, I'm paying 88 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: very close attention to the Mets because despite them spending 89 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: some money elsewhere this offseason that has worked out really well, 90 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: like on Max Freed, if the Mets have more success 91 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: over the next five years than the Yankees do, there 92 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: are going to be a lot of fingers pointing at 93 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: hal Steinberner for not being able to keep a guy 94 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: that he traded for and then got outbid by second 95 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: fiddle in the city. 96 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: In baseball, Well, I think it started a couple of 97 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: years ago. You know, when Steve Cohen introduced himself with 98 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: all these crazy spending sprees and showed that he can 99 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: be a financial behemoth. He's been in some years a 100 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: bigger financial obah myth, and the Mets have been one, 101 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: more so than the Yankees. I think that's when it 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: really started to change that. Oh, Yankee fans and the 103 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: Yankees are paying attention to what the Mets are doing 104 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: because they're a threat and free agency and now you don't, 105 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: like I said, they're playing amazing baseball, they're a first 106 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: paced team as well. They're a championship contender, like, they're 107 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: a threat in every sense of the word. So you're 108 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: going to pay attention to them, no different than you 109 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: would pay attention to a division rival, or the way 110 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: the Yankees have paid attention to what the Dodgers have 111 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: done for the last several years. I think that dynamics 112 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: started to kind of shape and shift a couple of 113 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: years ago with Steve Cohen, you know, taking full control 114 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: of the team. 115 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: Is there any team animosity? Yes, we've been talking about 116 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 4: fans ownership, team animosity. I mean you heard Judge say 117 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: or Soto say, yeah, I changed my phone number. So 118 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 4: we had the whole like, who this change my number? 119 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: Nobody from the Yankees was calling Juan Soto during the offseason. 120 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: Judge is a leader of that team. Is there any 121 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 4: animosity between the team or is it just gonna be 122 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: hugs and kisses before the game. 123 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: I don't think there's necessarily any animosity. I think a 124 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: lot of players understand that one did what he thought 125 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: was best for himself and best for his family. You know, 126 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't think any any player is gonna want to 127 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: be in the situation that one put himself in and 128 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: earned for himself this past offseason. You know, Judge went 129 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: through it a couple off seasons ago himself. So I 130 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: think these guys, particularly the ones who have been to 131 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: free agency, get it. I do think the rivalry element 132 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: of it, the Yankees versus Mets thing, that's definitely more 133 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: of a fan driven thing than it would be a 134 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: player driven thing. 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What would you 160 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: want to ask and maybe what have you already spoken to, 161 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: you know, Yankees players and or brass about Juan Soto, 162 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: Like take me back to you know when that all 163 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: went down, right and he actually signed with the Mets, 164 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: and what the sentiment was, and I know eventually they 165 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: talked about how you know, what was it Judge didn't 166 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: have Soto's new phone number, all that fun drama that 167 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: we had. But you know what, what did you hear 168 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: back then? And what would you want to know about 169 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: now that it's been you know a little bit of time, 170 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: you let it simmer for a little bit after it 171 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: actually happened. 172 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, As far as what I heard back then is 173 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: kind of what everybody else has heard, is that Wand 174 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: changed his number and guys weren't necessarily able to get 175 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: through to him during his free agency. As far as 176 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: what I would want to know, I'd like to know 177 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: if there is anybody that actually did get in touch 178 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: with him, Guys who are current Yankees, now what they 179 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: might have said, precisely what their pitch might have sounded like. 180 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: I also would be curious, like just what were guys 181 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: genuine initial in the moment reactions when they saw the 182 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: final number, Because I think most of us in the 183 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: baseball world, like our eyes popped out of our heads. 184 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: Did guys expect a number like that? Where guys did 185 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: guys think it might be faker, joker? Or I mean 186 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: because when one first went to free agency, or even 187 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: leading up to free agency, we were talking about five 188 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: hundred million, six hundred million, and like that seemed astronomical, 189 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: but there was at least expectations set for it. So 190 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm curious, like how guys genuinely reacted in the moment 191 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: when those first reports and tweets surfaced. 192 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: You talk about joke numbers. 193 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: Aaron Judge right now, this is completely off the one 194 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 4: so topic. Aaron Judge right now is making first team 195 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: in like high school stats. If he's putting up what 196 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: he's doing in high school, he's doing it in the 197 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: big leagues. Is theyre a reaction in those in the 198 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: clubhouse when not only visiting teams come in, but just 199 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 4: his own Yankee teammates that a dude that's had MVPs 200 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 4: has done what he's done. And then he goes to 201 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: I want to get this right. His two fifty eight 202 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: ops plus he's one hundred and fifty eight percent better 203 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: than the average player in the big leagues. 204 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. 205 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: You know, my first two years on the beat, I 206 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: think postgame and I Judge would do something amazing. You 207 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: have a huge home run, make a great catch. Postgame, 208 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: it was a lot of like, oh my god, we 209 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: can't believe this. This year, I feel like it's way 210 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: more like, yeah, this is what he does and it's 211 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: another day at the office and he's just playing a 212 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: different game at a different level than everybody else. I 213 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: feel like there's like less shock in AWE this year 214 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: because he's just established, like this is who he is 215 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: this is. 216 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: What he does. 217 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if he's got a want soda in 218 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: front of him or not. You know, you saw that 219 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Yeah, I think it's more teetering 220 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: toward the edge of like we have nothing left to 221 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: say that's descriptive or groundbreaking. Boone says it all the time, like, 222 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: you know, we're running out of descriptors and adjectives for him. 223 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: And I think that's true. 224 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: That's a good point. 225 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: I mean, last I checked, he's still above four hundred, right, yeah, 226 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: four eleven. Where we're at four eleven, two. 227 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: For five, two for five and his batting average goes down. 228 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: It's crazy what he's doing right now. I mean we 229 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: were at the and we were at the end of 230 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: April and his average was higher than the date. 231 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, damn right, that's incredible. Well, Gary, enjoy this one. 232 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a fun series obviously, just as much 233 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: for the fanfare as it is for what goes down 234 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: on the field with two very good teams right now, 235 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: which is always fun for the city. Thanks for joining us. 236 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to the series, and appreciate you guys 237 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: having me on. 238 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: Top five. I can ask you because you've seen some 239 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: Yankee games live recently. Are you surprised the way that 240 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: some teams have been attacking Aaron Judge and whatever. Call 241 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: me softest as a pseudo you know, manager on this show, 242 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: trying to act like I'm going to tell all my pictures. 243 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: Hey avoid him at all costs. I'm not saying bases loaded, 244 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: you know, tight game, you gotta walk them, although maybe 245 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: you think about it, but should he be getting I 246 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: mean the simple question. More of the Barry Bonds treatment. 247 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 2: It's been a theme on our show and I don't 248 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: know if we've asked you lately. 249 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 5: Listen, he's getting pitches to hit, he's driving the ball, 250 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 5: he's listen. Everybody always talks about like the playoffs he had. 251 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 5: He's had a great run in the playoffs, you know, 252 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 5: before last year. In my opinion, I don't mean to 253 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 5: jump from Dingy think he's a great regular season hitter. 254 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 5: He's phenomenal. I mean, cratzy. You can attest to this. 255 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 5: When we played in seventeen. How good was he was 256 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 5: driving the ball all over the place. But yes, he 257 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 5: is an absolute beast of a player. People forget his size, 258 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 5: his stature, how far he can hit, the ball he 259 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 5: hit one four to sixty the other day. He's just 260 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 5: an absolute beast and he's not missing these pitches too 261 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 5: often when he's getting them. And I think that's the 262 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 5: difference right now going into this year, because we always 263 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 5: talk about getting one pitch to hit. He gets that 264 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 5: one pitch. If he misses it, he still has an 265 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 5: opportunity to get on base and walk. He is in 266 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: a hitter's count every time he hits. I don't care 267 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 5: if it's O two one two two two, just the 268 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 5: way he is and way pitchers know that guy can hit. 269 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 6: Be careful with him. 270 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: No, the movie's back. We got a problem, Todd father. 271 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: So let me know if I can enter the office 272 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 2: to be. 273 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 6: Respectful, come on any time. 274 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, it's good to see you. I appreciate 275 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: everything that you do for me. And you know, I 276 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: wanted to know not just your thoughts about this whole 277 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: Pete Rose situation. Right. We know we bet on baseball, 278 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: and for those that think that he only bet on wins, yeah, 279 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: I mean he didn't bet on every game, so you 280 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: essentially bet on losses too. But anyway, Marty Brenneman legend 281 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati wonderful person to who called Reds games for 282 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: decades nineteen seventy four through twenty nineteen. You heard him 283 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: on the radio, at least for me the last couple decades. 284 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: Said he was pissed that this didn't happen the reinstatement 285 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: while Pete was alive. I'll give you one quote here, 286 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: don before you can give me your answer. He said, 287 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: I just felt that he had served his jail time, 288 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: if you will, far longer than he really should have 289 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: had to do it. And the fact that they rushed 290 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: to make him eligible within a matter of months, to me, 291 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: was the wrong way to go about doing business. When 292 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: they say made him eligible obviously after he had passed, 293 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: you know, in September they have the meeting in Decem. Boom. 294 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: Now he's eligible for the Hall of Fame and activated. 295 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: What do you think about how this all went down? 296 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: We talked about a lot this week. Haven't gotten your 297 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: thoughts yet. 298 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: Well, listen, I'm I'm going to talk basically about him 299 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 5: as a baseball player in Hall of Fame. I'm not 300 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 5: talking about anything else off the field. I'm not talking 301 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 5: about anything as a person. I know as a person, 302 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 5: he's a great guy. I've met him a bunch of times. 303 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 5: He's absolutely phenomenal dude. For me, I agree with Marty 304 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 5: one hundred percent on everything he said. He should have 305 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 5: been in the Hall of Fame before he died. He's 306 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 5: it's been years and years. I don't have the exact years, 307 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 5: but it's been thirty plus years close to forty years 308 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 5: of him getting this And did he make a mistake. Yeah, 309 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 5: he did. He made a huge mistake. I don't think 310 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 5: he should have been reinstated in baseball. I think he 311 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 5: should have been in the Hall of Fame, and I'm 312 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 5: gonna stick with that. I think now all of a 313 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 5: sudden he passed away and away pretty much you're gonna say, oh, 314 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 5: we can reinstate him. 315 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 6: I think it's bad taste. 316 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 5: It's a bad flavor in a lot of people's mouth, 317 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 5: and especially in the Ohio area and the Queen City. 318 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 5: This this guy's beloved there, and he's beloved all over 319 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 5: the Midwest and in baseball. And you know, you're gonna 320 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 5: have your naysayers out there, and that's just part of 321 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 5: the world and part of how everybody is. But for me, 322 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 5: as a baseball player, him not getting in the Hall 323 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 5: of Fame before he passed away. That's that's a tough 324 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 5: pill to swallow, because he is the greatest hitter right 325 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 5: now in baseball, because he has the most hits. I'm 326 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: not saying eventually, I'm saying there's guys right now that 327 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 5: most likely will you know, top that and you know, 328 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 5: be better hitters. But this dude had so many hits, 329 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 5: I don't know if anybody's gonna catch him in that category. 330 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 5: He's had so many quotes and he's helped so many 331 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 5: people out in the game of baseball. He has served 332 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 5: his jail time, you know, per se in the game 333 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 5: because of this, and I think, you know, he definitely 334 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: deserved to be in the Hall of Fame before he 335 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 5: passed away. And it's just it's I think it's a 336 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 5: bad taste right now. 337 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: To be honest, this is a straightforward show, So I'm 338 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: gonna be very straightforward with everyone about PXG. Fastest way 339 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: to improve your performance on the golf course is to 340 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: get yourself a PXG golf fitting. 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The week of course, 359 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: there was timing with with President Trump meeting with Rob Manfred. 360 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's why he ultimately made the decision here. 361 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: Would you have rather not seen him ever reinstated or 362 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: is this still better than never getting reinstated? Right? Because 363 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: like you've got different sides of the spectrum here. I'm 364 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: sitting in AJC today. Aj this week is very adamant 365 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: that the betting on baseball thing for him means I 366 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: never want you involved again. It's like the Cardinal Sin rule, 367 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: and everybody's got their own opinions that get respected. We 368 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: had Pete Rose's lawyer on yesterday who was like, I 369 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: respect you're saying, here's where I'm coming from. But for you, 370 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: as somebody who's pro Pete rose activation Hall of Famable thing, 371 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: is it better at least that he got reinstated now 372 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 2: and that the political pressure did you know, at least 373 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: allow him to get some more love from you know, 374 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: his family, who now gets to see him at least, 375 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: you know, back in quote good graces with baseball and 376 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: able to be voted into the Hall of Fame if 377 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: that happens. Or you're like, well, if you if you 378 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: decided to say this to him during the days that 379 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: he was alive, then you should have just stuck with 380 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: your decision. 381 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you know, I don't know. I can't speak 382 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 5: for his family, nor or would I ever for me though, 383 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 5: it's like, okay, you know he was alive. 384 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 6: We could have done this years ago. 385 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 5: But again, like I said, you guys and AJ was 386 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 5: a big component about the whole thing. Guys take steroids 387 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 5: and they're back in eighty games. I think steroids is 388 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 5: even worse in my opinion, and there's not a harsher 389 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 5: penalty for that. You know, we can go back and 390 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 5: forth on this debate. Everybody has their opinions and their 391 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 5: thoughts and beliefs. You know, right now, I'm just like, ah, okay, 392 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: put him in, but it's to me, it wouldn't be 393 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 5: the same. It would be great, But still I thought 394 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: it should have happened a while ago. 395 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Kratz, the way that Todd Father's 396 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: talking is the passion that you're seeing from a lot 397 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: of people that are not just pro Pete Rose in 398 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: this debate, but people that are actually either from Cincinnati 399 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 2: or spent a lot of time in Cincinnati. That's the passion. 400 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: I'm feeling like we got some of this from c 401 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: Trent rosecrants the other day to ask him, Hey, what 402 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: are you seeing from people around town? And it sounded 403 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: like the way Todd Father's talking spot. 404 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: On you spend time all around there. 405 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 4: I mean, they just had Pete Rose day five to 406 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: fourteen May fourteenth had Pete Rose Day honoring him. He 407 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 4: is a legend in that city, and Todd experienced it 408 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: for what six years? 409 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 3: Five years? 410 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, and Todd is one of the legends, 411 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: never on the same level as Pete Rose, but he's 412 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 4: one of those guys, and that's who's talked about. And 413 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 4: you know what, that's why everybody's opinion on this can 414 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: be very heated, but it is everybody's opinion. Everyone has 415 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: a different opinion on it. 416 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: You know. It's kind of wild. And this is not 417 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: off topic but a topic that we didn't really cover 418 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 2: this week. We mentioned it. But shoeless Joe Jackson is 419 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: also reinstated. I mean, he's been dead for like almost 420 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: three quarters of a century. I think there are conspiracy 421 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: theories around if he was really that involved on that 422 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: nineteen nineteen Black Sox scandal, So I wonder how that 423 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: will be perceived. Pete definitely bet on baseball. You admitted 424 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: to that, Like, that's in one category. So if you're 425 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: against that, you're against that. But if you're like, hey, 426 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 2: I know that, you know he was punished just like 427 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: the rest of them. But I'm buying into some of 428 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: these conspiracy theories, and I'm looking at the way that 429 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: he performed in those games. Maybe he gets in and 430 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: Pete doesn't. I know, it would be crazy, but it's possible. 431 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: Watch watch the movie. The movie will kind of sheds 432 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 3: a different light. 433 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: Get it. 434 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: It's a movie. I think it's actually called The Black Sox. 435 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: Read the book too. Eight Men Out? Is that what 436 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: you're talking about? 437 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: Minute, Yeah, yeah. 438 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you know, it is what it is. It's 439 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 5: over with now because he you know, he's deceased. And 440 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 5: that's that's the tough part to swallow for me, Like 441 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 5: knowing all of a sudden, now they're going to make 442 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 5: a rule saying, since you're a deceased we can reinstate hip. 443 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know. I think the people 444 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 5: in Cincinnati didn't like that at all. 445 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: And the thing is, yeah, I mean, this suddenly was determined. 446 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 2: Even though we've had cases like this in the past. Julish, 447 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 2: Joe Jackson was a superstar player. I didn't get to 448 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: watch him play. I don't think anybody right now vern 449 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: Julish Joe Jackson at this point in the early nineteen hundreds. 450 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: But if they really felt this strongly about it. It's 451 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 2: really impeccable timing that all of a sudden, crats we 452 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: get this decision. Everyone's good, everyone's good. Now once you die, 453 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: that's our limit, that's our mark death, and then you're 454 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: back in. 455 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 4: They could have never let any of those any of 456 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: those players in while Pete was still alive. Maybe they 457 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 4: could have allowed it before Pete got caught with his scandal, 458 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: and then, you know, if they had all passed away, 459 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: but they didn't all. I don't think they were all 460 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 4: deceased by the time Pete had, you know, done hit 461 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 4: or got caught for his infraction. 462 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, I I don't know. I don't know what 463 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 3: Todd said. 464 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 6: It's tough, man. 465 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 5: It's tough to tell us about it is. It's hard 466 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 5: because because we didn't play with him, we didn't you know, 467 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 5: I got to know him. I mean, I don't know 468 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 5: if you ever met him like I've known him personally. 469 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 6: I used to. 470 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 5: I could call him on the phone and be like, hey, man, 471 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 5: I'm struggling. Talk to me a little bit, like that's 472 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 5: the relationship I had. So maybe I'm a little biased, 473 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 5: of course, but you know, what, are they going to 474 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 5: make rules for guys that did other things in sports 475 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 5: when they passed away. Are they going to be able 476 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 5: to come back and get into the Hall of Fame? 477 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 5: So it's it's a sticky little line that you know, 478 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 5: man for it is kind of going around here. So 479 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 5: we'll see see what happens. 480 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 6: Yep. 481 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 5: I think time time will pass and everything we'll get 482 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 5: back to normal again. 483 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: And the only thing I'll stand by, because this is 484 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: the only point that I feel strongly about that I 485 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 2: can say I feel right about, is the decision changed 486 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 2: because of a meeting. Okay, they weren't going you know 487 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: what after he dies. Yeah, let's let's do that. Right. 488 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: There was a meeting, it was very recently, and then 489 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 2: they flip flopped. Period. That's it. Let someone come on 490 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: our show and tell me otherwise. No freaking way. 491 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 9: So Rob knows who can butter his bread and hey, 492 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 9: like like Pete Lawyer said yesterday, it doesn't hurt to 493 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 9: have any president on your side in an argument. 494 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: Totally agree with that, right, I'm just saying, like, Rob 495 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: didn't make this decision. You know, they had a meeting. 496 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: They said this would put you in good graces, make 497 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: this call, and they did. Done. 498 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 4: Rob doesn't want to anti trust agreement that is a 499 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: legally federal binding anti trust agreement to go away. He 500 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: wants to keep it exactly how it is, and if 501 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: you're conversating with the old prays of the United States, 502 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 4: it works. 503 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: If I was CEO of the League like Manfred, I 504 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: would have done the same thing, because your job is 505 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: to keep the league in a good spot and make 506 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: as much money as possible for the league. That is 507 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: your number one job these days as a commissioner, So 508 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: I would have done the same thing. I'm just saying. 509 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: The point of this show is that we can say 510 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 2: whatever he wants, So I'm just telling you the real 511 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: story is there's a meeting and Trump's a big Rose fan, 512 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: and that's great, and so that's what creates this. So 513 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 2: I don't blame any of that, but that's how you 514 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: actually get something done like this. Otherwise they were just 515 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: going to let it linger forever