1 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Saber production of iHeart Radio. 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: I'm Ayr and I'm Lord Vogelbaum, and today we have 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: an episode for you about cut Broke Trout, specifically hunting 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: cut Broke Trout. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: We do, and there's a very specific reason that we 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: chose it. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: There is, Okay, So the thing is is that right 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: now we're recording the live from the iHeart Podcasts Studio 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: powered by Bows at the House of Music at the 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: iHeart Radio Music Festival in Las Vegas. Yes, so we 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: are in Las Vegas in this little sound booth in 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: the middle of a music festival. 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: Yes, that looks a. 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: Little bit like a like an action figure box, and 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: we are the action figures. And so passers by can 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: just kind of like stop and stare at us, which 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: is not what I'm used to, right. 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: They can also just put on headphones and listen in 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: at any point they can. 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: They could have been listening to me say that right then. 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: And the thing is like the headphones are are not 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: in front of the plastic opening from the plastic front 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: of the box, I can't see, so we can't see 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: when other people are listening. Right, It's like a psychological 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: experiment honestly. 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: You might be on the sting man. Yes, but yeah, 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: you know, I wish you listeners were here to see 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: what we're seeing. 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: Yeah where we are, Yeah, it's we're outside of this 30 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: this arena, and uh, they are broadcasting what's going on 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: inside the arena. And I think it's public enemy. Last 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: night we saw TLC we did. That was great. 33 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: I was singing my heart out. Oh me too. 34 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: I felt bad for anyone taking video. I was like, sorry, 35 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: I'm not going to stop shouting, but right, so okay, 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: So the specific kind of trout is native to the 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: Nevada area, and so I really wanted to just cut. 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: Like it's gonna it's gonna be a sad episode, you guys. 39 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: It's gonna be one of those like ecological issue episodes. 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: And I love that we came to this fun music 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: festival with all of this party environment and everyone having 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: a hecking great time, and I was like, let's be sad. 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: Can you imagine like anyone who's like glancing in here 44 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: right now, like, oh I've seen some gun music. Let 45 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: me check out what's going on in here? Every like 46 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: trout what? Yes, but it's really our brand. So I 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: feel I feel I feel good about. 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: It me too, same, absolutely, yes, but if you have 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: to hear distractions and concentration are sounds, just know yeah, 50 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: well maybe we'll post some pictures, but you should. 51 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's the whole thing. It's great, it's a great. 52 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: It's pretty intense. Yes, yes, you can see. We have 53 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: done several other fish episodes. You know. We love those 54 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: because fish are so interesting, and it's one of those 55 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: things where we have to continually remind ourselves we're not 56 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: like a biological show. 57 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, fhode show hypathetically, but ye know, sea life is real. 58 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: Weird it is, yeah, it is. But I guess this 59 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: brings us to our question. Yeah, cutthroat trout. 60 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: What are they? 61 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: Well, cutthroat trout are a type of largely freshwater fish, 62 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: so named because they have these really distinctive red markings 63 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: around their gills and the hunting cutthroats have like a 64 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: furthermore bar of pinkish purple coloring all the way down 65 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: their sides. They're otherwise like a greenish brownish copper or 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: silver with black speckles. They're kind of cute. They're flesh 67 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: because we are a food show. Is orangish pink one 68 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: raw cooks to like a pinkish white and will be 69 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: like kind of tender, flaky, and texture generally a little 70 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: mild like maybe a little nutty, and flavor not super fishy, 71 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: more like clean. They're they're good size for freshwater fish, 72 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: often over five pounds or two kilos, like like good 73 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: for filets, Tasty when grilled or subtaed with the skin 74 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: on so that you get that nice crisp you know. Okay, 75 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: I haven't had it, actually, but I understand that they're 76 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: a little bit like a like a milder, less fatty salmon. 77 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: But these fish are survivors, yes, yes, and okay, So 78 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: scientists love arguing about taxonomy, which is a thing that 79 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: I love, Like, I love reading about scientists arguing about taxonomy. 80 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: They're like, well, actually so good, you know, like and 81 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: like whether things should be categorized as subspecies or their 82 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: own species. But as of right now, cut through a 83 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: trout are classified under the species on Koricas Clarky I. Yes, 84 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: with fourteen subspecies. Lahontan are subspecies henshaw E I henshaw E. 85 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with that. 86 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, Latin. They are in the salmon family. They 87 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: live in rivers and lakes in the Lahontan Basin region, 88 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: which is a closed freshwater system in what's now California, Oregon, 89 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: and Nevada. It's part of the larger Great Basin of 90 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: western North America, but these are waterways that are high 91 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: in the mountains surrounded by desert. The lakes are a 92 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: little bit more alkaline and salty than a lot of 93 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: fish could tolerate, but these buddies are adapted to it, 94 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: though they do need like less salty river or stream 95 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: water to spawn in reproduction. Yeah, speaking of life cycle 96 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: of an LCT, the Internet likes calling them Lahontan cutry 97 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: of trout. 98 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 99 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: Female fish will select a riverbed or stream bed to 100 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: deposit eggs hundreds or even thousands, depending on the size 101 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: of the fish and other circumstances like their health location 102 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: makes sense, Malefish really sperm into the same areas. If fertilized, 103 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: the eggs will hatch into alvins, which are sort of 104 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: like protofish that are still attached to their yolk sac 105 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: as their food intake because they can't eat yet, and 106 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: then over the course of a couple of weeks, they'll 107 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: develop into fry, which are like minifish that can move 108 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: around more than eat a tiny zooplankton in the water 109 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: column start getting bigger. They have small teeth on the 110 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: back of their tongue. Okay, this is my fun sea 111 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: life fact for the episode. They have small teeth on 112 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: the back of their tongue. 113 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: It's kind of terrifying and I love it. 114 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm a little upset. Traditionally, they have been the 115 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: largest predatory fish in this ecosystem, capable of growing to 116 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: certainly over twenty pounds or nine kilos and thirty inches long, 117 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: which is about seventy five centimeters if they're in a lake. 118 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: They eat pretty much anything smaller than them which anyone 119 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: who happens to have an aquarium hobby as I have had, 120 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: understands when you put fish in a tank, they will 121 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: eat anything smaller than themselves cannon mill Yeah or not 122 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: not not smaller than them. Smell it's not smaller than themselves, 123 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: but smaller than their mouth if they if it. 124 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: Fits it, if. 125 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: It fits, it eats. Yeah, it doesn't rhyme, but it's 126 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: still pretty cool. Yeah, mostly insects when they're younger, other 127 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: fish and small crustaceans when they're older. They can live 128 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: up to about nine years. They don't necessarily spawn every year. 129 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: It depends again on circumstances, which again fair understandable. You know, Yeah, 130 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: these fish are popular with anglers, like they're big and pretty. 131 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: They do respond really well to bait, and they put 132 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: up a fight, which I guess people find fun. Plus, 133 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: so you can either throw them back at that point 134 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: or you know, they're tasty. They are considered threatened as 135 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: a species, but laws allow for some limited fishing of them, 136 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: kind of as part of the conservation effort actually to 137 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: like encourage humans to help their populations out right. Yes, 138 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: they do have scales that you wouldn't want to eat, 139 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: but their skin is edible. 140 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: As I said above, they. 141 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: Have orange pinkish flesh that can be flaid off or 142 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: cut into steaks once you've gutted them. At that point 143 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: you have to deal with bones. It's up to your preference, 144 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: you know. I understand from everything I've read they're just 145 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: really tasty. Their flavor will depend on their diet, so 146 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: they can be mild to more strongly fishy, depending and 147 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: even sort of like nutty sweet if they're eating mostly 148 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: insects and crustaceans and. 149 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: You can cook them up. However, you like cooking. 150 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 4: Fish listeners, my goodness, yes, yes, Well what about the 151 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 4: nutrition by themselves? 152 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: Lct are pretty good for you, high end protein, good fats, 153 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: you know, eat, eat, eat a vegetable. Also, once you've 154 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: bread it and fried something, I make no nutritional promises. 155 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: It might make you so happy. 156 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh, I totally encourage you to bread and 157 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: fry fish. Certainly most things us try it. Yes, but 158 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: fish is pretty provenly delicious that way. 159 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: I did have some swordfish last night, Oh you did? 160 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: I did, and it was delicious, but I was so 161 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: full I couldn't eat thet I know, I got a problem. Yeah, right, right, 162 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: a lovely, lovely problem. That was really good. Okay, we 163 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: do have some numbers, facts or a couple. There's like 164 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: a number and a half. Yeah, sure, sure, yes, so. 165 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: Nevada state fish is the Haunting cutthroat trout, Utahs is 166 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: the Bonneville cutthroat trout. 167 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: New Mexico's is the Rio Grande cutthroat. The record for 168 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: the largest LCT ever caught. It's from nineteen twenty five 169 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: for a forty one pounder that's eighteen point six kilos. 170 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: It was thirty nine inches long about a meter. That 171 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: is a he large fish. 172 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: That's a big fish, a big fish. 173 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: The hot and cutthroats currently live in about one hundred 174 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: and fifty streams comprising four hundred and eighty miles of habitat. 175 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: It's about seven hundred and seventy kilometers plus five lakes. 176 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: Their populations, though, are only self sustaining in about ten 177 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: percent of their historic river territory and in only like, 178 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: like less than one percent of their historic lake territory. 179 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: Right, And that's a big part of what we're going 180 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: to talk about in a history. 181 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: Section, yeah, which we are going to get into after 182 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: we get back from a quick break forward from. 183 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 5: Our sponsors, and we're back. 184 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. And a reminder in 185 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: case you hear it in our voices, you hear it 186 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: in the background. You are listening to Save Her live 187 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: at the iHeart Podcast Studio powered by Bows at the 188 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: House of Music at the iHeartRadio Music Festival. It's a scene, y'all. 189 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: I really don't know how to describe what's going on 190 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: right now, but we're like in a box and we're 191 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:16,359 Speaker 1: talking about well, people are listening to you music. 192 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: Our our lovely and helpful attendance. Are like are like 193 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: guiding people to the to the earphones, and I'm like, 194 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: oh goodness. 195 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: This is this is well if you're listening, welcome, yeah, 196 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: thank you. Hi. Welcome to Trout. Welcome to Trout. As 197 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: you listen to Kelly Clark. Yes, but I'm glad I 198 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: am here with you, Lauren. There's no one I would 199 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: rather be doing this with. 200 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I can't imagine talking about Trout with 201 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: anyone else at a music festival. 202 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: Yes, we're a perfect match in this way. Yes, but 203 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: all right, the history. Yes, so we are specifically talking 204 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: about the Haunted Cutthroat Trout mostly and it is believed 205 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: to have evolved in the in the La Haunted Basin, 206 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: which is like northeastern California, southeastern Oregon, and northern Nevada, 207 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: where over the course of a million years, the Haunted 208 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: Lake has grown and shrunk and moved. You can you 209 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: can find papers that have like traced what oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 210 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: It's super fascinating because like these water systems developed during 211 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: the Price to Scene glacial era and got cut off 212 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: from external waterways. So the evolution of a lot of 213 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: the wildlife there, like literally took a left turn at Albuquerque. 214 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: Yes, certainly, certainly did. And for thousands of years, the 215 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: the Hanton cutthroat trout was culturally and economically important to 216 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: the local indigenous communities. 217 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: One of the local tribes, the Lake Payut, originally called 218 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: themselves in translation, the Cement Lake fish eaters or the 219 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: Seventh Lake trout eaters. 220 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: Oh I like that. The cutthroat trout is often described 221 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: as the only trout native to Utah and the only 222 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: species present in the area prior to the eighteen hundreds 223 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: when white colonizers arrived. At the same time, new species 224 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: of trout, particularly the brown trout, were introduced, competing for 225 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: food and space, and also brown trout started eating the 226 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: local cutthroat trout. Yeah. 227 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: Furthermore, the Hatton cutthroats can interbreed with similar species of trout, 228 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: and hybridization is considered another threat to their populations. Like 229 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: it would be considered good if they were interbreeding with 230 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: other subspecies of native cutthroat, but those are not the 231 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: fish that have been introduced to these. 232 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: Waterways that are causing the problems right. And on top 233 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: of that, even in these early years, we're talking about 234 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: the will hauntan cutthroat trout was susceptible to over harvesting, 235 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: also things like volution of diverting of the water, mining 236 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: harvesting of timber. Another big factor in the decline of 237 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: their population was the construction of the Derby Dam in 238 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: the early nineteen hundreds in Nevada. 239 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, like one of their native lakes, Pyramid Lake, dropped 240 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: eighty feet in water level over the next sixty years 241 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: after the dam was built, it's become largely more salty 242 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: than the trout's eggs can survive in. 243 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: Right, So sometime in the mid nineteen hundreds, the lct 244 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: were largely forced out, slash relocated, and two isolated small 245 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: lake systems. 246 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: This was a gradual process, as like all of these 247 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: different human interventions changed literally changed the landscape, physically isolating 248 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: these populations of these fish from other populations and from 249 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: other subspecies, thus limiting the amount of genetic diversity in 250 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: those populations. The concern here is that like if they 251 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: become too seized and then their habitat changes due to 252 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: climate change or further human intervention, they'll be unable to 253 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: adapt and will. 254 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Die out right. So by the nineteen seventies, fissures in 255 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: the area, were worried that the cutthroat had gone extinct 256 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: and started fishing in lesser known areas. They also started 257 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: attempting to boost populations when they did discover these fish. 258 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: The LCT was originally listed as endangered in nineteen seventy 259 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: under the nineteen sixty nine Endangered Species Act. 260 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, freshwater animals are particularly at risk. Right around this time, 261 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies, there was a big important push to 262 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: pay attention to the destruction of ecosystems and human caused extinctions. 263 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: Like today, global biodiversity is still in decline, but freshwater 264 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: fauna is declining five times faster than terrestrial fauna. 265 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. And another piece of this is after several court 266 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: actions and a long fought battle, the Pyramid Lake Piute 267 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: Tribe negotiated with the US government about water allocations to 268 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: protect not only the lake but the fish that inhabited 269 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: the lake under the Endangered Species Act and then again 270 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighty seven renewal of the Clean Water Act. 271 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: Congress approved the Trucky River Settlement Act in nineteen ninety 272 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: one that required the Pyramid Lake Piute tribe to be 273 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: consulted in every decision involving the Trucky River, which. 274 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, late, but rad probably. Yes, consult the humans who 275 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: live there. That's a good thing to do. 276 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, Whether or not they actually did it, we'll 277 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: talk about more. Ye. Yes. In nineteen ninety five, the 278 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: recovery plan for Lahontan Lahontan cutthroat trout was approved and 279 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: officials found that the LCT still met the criteria endangered species. 280 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: In two thousand and nine, yep, yep. And then recently 281 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: the US Fish and Wildlife Service found that of the 282 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: seventy one populations of La Hontan cutthroat trout, only five 283 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: were resilient. The Summit Lake Paiute Tribe and the Pyramid 284 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Lake Piot Tribe. I've been working for decades and possibly centuries, 285 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: which they pointed out is something not mentioned in this 286 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: report from the US government, and rightfully, I would say said, 287 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: this is another instance of the US government not listening 288 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: to indigenous people, are not acknowledging their efforts, and these 289 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: efforts have been successful. 290 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 291 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: The indigenous people in this area manage a hatchery for 292 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: the Pyramid Lake Lahontan cutthroat trout, raising juvenile, juvenile fish 293 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: until they can be released into the Lake. 294 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and in twenty twelve they successfully spawned there for 295 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: the first time. 296 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: In eighty years. It's so cool. 297 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: Other reintroduction efforts are taking place around the Greater Great 298 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: Basin region, including in Lake Tahoe, And there's yeah, just 299 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: some really cool research going on in Summit Lake, which 300 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: is on the Piot Reservation. Together with the University of Reno. 301 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: They're studying the habitat and life cycle of the fish 302 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: to see what's going right and what's going wrong and 303 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: see how they can help create more circumstances of going right. 304 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: They have this whole fish tagging program that lets them 305 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: track fish as they migrate and spawn in these like 306 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: underwater camera systems to see what's going on with them. 307 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: Super cool. 308 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, again, this is sort of a Laurence Kiljoy episode. 309 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: Freshwater fish are going extinct eight hundred and seventy seven 310 00:18:54,440 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: times faster than normal extinction rates, So what can we do? 311 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: You know, Like, that's that's. 312 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: A heck of a statistic to drop on you and 313 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: then be like Okay, good bye, thanks for listening. 314 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: So yeah, like what can we do? 315 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, support science support legislation that 316 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: supports science, support conservation efforts, ask and then listen to 317 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: the native peoples who have been the stewards of the 318 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: land that other peoples are now occupying. 319 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, that's that's some pretty solid advice to end 320 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: on here. But as always, listeners, if you know more 321 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: about this, if there's something that we missed. 322 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: Oh goodness, yeah, yeah, because right because we haven't. Yeah, 323 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: I've not tried this food item. This episode has not 324 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: been about food very much, but you know, like like 325 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: if you have, you know that some of the stories 326 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: that I was reading were you know, just just these 327 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: memories of people going out fishing with their grandparents and 328 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: and being so sad that the pop relations have declined, 329 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: but so happy to be able to get to participate 330 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: in some of these reconstruction efforts, right. 331 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And that's one of the things we love 332 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: about this show, as much as it can be painful 333 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: to talk about, but those like memories and then the 334 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: effort to preserve so people in the future can have 335 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: those memories. 336 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, and certainly yeah, if you have those memories, 337 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: we absolutely want to hear them. 338 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: We do. But that is what we have to say 339 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: about Little Haunton Cutthroat Trout for now it is. 340 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: We do already have some listener mail for you, though, 341 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: and we are going to get into that as soon 342 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: as we get back from one more quick break for 343 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: a word from our sponsors. 344 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you. We're 345 00:20:52,960 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: back with the listeners. You know, I don't know have 346 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: we done this in person in like. 347 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: When when was the last time I was sitting across 348 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: the table. 349 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: From each other? Yeah? Not since the pandemic. Right, yeah, 350 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: So we normally have like a I would say, a 351 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: second delay in the skype mutes everything. Yeah for Lauren. 352 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, because because once Annie starts starts singing or doing 353 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: whatever it is that she's doing, I have Once I 354 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: start trying to follow her, I have no idea what 355 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: she's doing anymore, so I have to base it on 356 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: her hand gestures. 357 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 4: Yes, so this was a unique Yeah. 358 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: Also, I maintain that is a skill set, Lauren, you 359 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: have learned skill to interpret whatever I'm doing. So we 360 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: have two short ones today, but they're from two Kelsey's 361 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: but different kelceies. Oh okay, okay, all right, yes, So 362 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: first Kelsey wrote, if your mom needs a book recommendation? Okay, 363 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: speaking to me because I had said about my mom 364 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: loves these kind of mystery books. I also have this 365 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: other side gig going on. Okay, sure. The Golden Spoon 366 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: by Jessa Arnold is really good. Think Agatha Christie meets 367 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: British Bakeoff set in modern day Vermont on an old 368 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: money estate. Wow, that's great. I know there's so much 369 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: going on in this and I love it. The sentence 370 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: is stunning you. It's like you pulled off what Lauren 371 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: does when she's describing how something taste. You did that 372 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: for this book where I'm like, oh, yeah, right, that's 373 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: so that. Oh man, that sounds really that sounds really awesome. 374 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: The British Bakeoff, I'm just I want I want to 375 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: know warm. I want to know warm. You've intrigued me. 376 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm booked. 377 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm like, how British Bakeoff does it get? 378 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: Like? 379 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: Is there like a Gonzo all Fielding character in there somewhere? 380 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: Like I'm not sure, you never know, you never know? 381 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: Are they just talking about pastry a lot? I'm into 382 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: that too. 383 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there like a competition going on? Is it 384 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: like a food competition? And then we'll have to read 385 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: it and find out. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, heck yeah, 386 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: thank you for the recommendation. All right. 387 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: The other Kelsey, this one in DC, wrote, I'm listening 388 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: to your episode about Zimmus, which I've never heard of before, 389 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: but it sounds delicious and I hope to try it someday. 390 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: The description of cooking vegetables with fruit and or juice 391 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 2: reminds me of one of my favorite Thanksgiving side dishes, 392 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: carrots celery cooked with apple juice and a lot of butter. 393 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: I think my mom got the recipe from a magazine, 394 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: but I don't know anyone else who eats this. Are 395 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: you familiar with it? Listeners, please write in. I hope 396 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: you have a great fall. I'll just be here morning 397 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: the end of peach and tomato season while looking forward 398 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 2: to soup season. Here's a picture of a tomato gillette 399 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: I always say it wrong cool that I made with 400 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: the last of my Farmers Market tomatoes. It's a boneape 401 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 2: tita recipe plus everything but the bagel seasoning. 402 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 1: Oo. Yeah, I always feel bad when we talk about pictures, 403 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: and it's a very lovely picture. 404 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 2: Yeah it's delicious, oh man, and good farmers Market tomatoes. 405 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I mean, I'm right here with you. Falls 406 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: my favorite season for a lot of reasons. But I 407 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: will miss the tomatoes everywhere. Yeah, which is Yeah, I 408 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: feel like I haven't gotten a really good peach this year. 409 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: Even I don't think I have either. It's really fallen 410 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: down on that. Yeah, I know, I think it might 411 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: be too late. 412 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: It might be it might be here. Pierson Farms, call us, 413 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: we need your help you. Pearson Farms is a is 414 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: a local farm that does really good peaches, really good peaches. 415 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: I cannot recommend them enough. Oh my gosh, my, I'm 416 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 1: like thinking about peaches. But I'll say I have this 417 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: background of food fighters going on, and it's amazing. It's 418 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: very intense. It's really intense music that's happening right now. 419 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: I have not heard of this side dish up the 420 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: ale juice I could see that. 421 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, see that. 422 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't heard of it either. Apple juice I'm 423 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: fascinated by. Like orange juice, like citrus juice is usually 424 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: what I see inside dishes like this, Like definitely like 425 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: a like a sweet potato with orange juice is something 426 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: even outside of Zimis I've definitely seen. 427 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: But apple juice, Yeah that sounds great, right, Yeah, I 428 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: mean it's also a lot of butter. As you say, well, 429 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: I mean that always sounds great. Never never, never, not 430 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: a lot of butter. I think I've told this story before, 431 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: but one of my older brother's best friends when we 432 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: were younger, he always loved coming to eat at our house, 433 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: and one day he finally said, it's because your mom 434 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: puts so much butter and everything beautiful. Yeah that's pretty good. 435 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: You like, see like broccoli, it looks so healthy, and 436 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: then you see this but perfect Oh yeah, so good. 437 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was definitely for a brief period of 438 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: my life. Like how you got Lauren to eat vegetables? 439 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: Was that amount of butter? 440 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean, eat your vegetables. You gotta get the kids 441 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: to do it right. 442 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: But like eat eat, eat a fat. You need fat 443 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: in your diet. It's important. I was, look, I was, 444 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: you were ahead of I know, I was knew, you 445 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: knew what was going on. 446 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: You did your future as a food podcaster. Who would 447 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: be sitting in this music festival you had already foreseen. 448 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see exactly this, Yes, talking about trapped 449 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: while people are listening to the food fighters. 450 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: Some things are just meant to be, you know, some 451 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: things are meant to be. You're right. 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