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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: I'm your war room for incenter news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in for School Dallas Cowboys Select. And now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us Well. Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Draft Show for our weekly addition.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing over there, David Hellman, I'm just

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Speaker 1: filming some social media coming and our social media users.

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Speaker 1: There you go, you're good. Yeah, that's David Hellman doubling

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Speaker 1: as the geographer, scout, whatever you want to call him.

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Speaker 1: The man if many hats man many hats to my right,

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Speaker 1: is one of the best scouts in the league my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, what's up there, big timer? How about putting

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Speaker 1: that mic in front of your Are we doing? Hey?

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Speaker 1: You know, look, please help me out with this, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I heard a rumor that before Layton vander Esh picked

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Speaker 1: out his jersey, he saw your senior video when you're

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Speaker 1: running out of the field and saw fifty five and said,

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Speaker 1: I am number fifty five for the Dallas count Double fives.

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Speaker 1: Baby about that? Shouts out too that's the rumor. That's

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Speaker 1: the rumor. Yeah, if you don't know what Dane's talking about,

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Speaker 1: I tweeted it out a picture Bobby Belt from the

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Speaker 1: NFL Network. Quas always comes up with some really cool content.

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Speaker 1: Rare footage of Brian brought us senor Senior night nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty six in Baton rouge Me following Roland Barbee. One

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Speaker 1: of the good players we had on that team that

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Speaker 1: day was that Dan Bourne in the background, Like, has

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Speaker 1: he been doing it that long? I honestly don't know. No,

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Speaker 1: that uh, the the announcer, it's about the PA. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I think number fifty five. Somebody is Dallas, Texas T W. White. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's okay, Yeah, you're close. But yeah, it was kind

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Speaker 1: of Garrison. We got it on the old TV Garrison there,

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Speaker 1: I am. Look at this fifty five. Look at that

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Speaker 1: guy with hair? How about that squareness? To me? Didn't

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Speaker 1: it's a better ball security? Yeah, my dad in the background.

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Speaker 1: Dad's lost a lot of weight since that day. Bill

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Speaker 1: Larens Barker shaking my hand. Though, when the last time

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Speaker 1: you saw that video or did you ever see it?

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Speaker 1: I never knew it existed. I never It's probably one

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Speaker 1: of those Cox Cable things, Dave. You know Baton Rouge.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they film it in Nate like every big

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Speaker 1: name program. Yeah, you can find the craziest stuff online.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, people just archive their games. I went, which

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Speaker 1: I went? I spent like thirty minutes watching the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: Florida State National title game a couple of nights ago.

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Speaker 1: I just know a Taylor Stern gave it the great nickname.

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Speaker 1: It's the the Great Time Machine, yep, and that you know.

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Speaker 1: I tried to explain to my son how great of

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Speaker 1: a frontman Freddie Mercury was and I had to show

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Speaker 1: him live aid in you know, nineteen eighty five. Good stuff.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, um, I appreciate you guys mentioned it. And no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Layton Vanderish as the rumor. I think

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Speaker 1: Layton Vanderish would have a zone on this one though.

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Speaker 1: I have a better player than you. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get in some fun things today with the

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Speaker 1: Draft show. I do want to, uh, Dave, I want

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Speaker 1: half of the show. Yeah, we've got to tell me more,

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Speaker 1: not tell me where it's give me a Twitter on

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Speaker 1: the twenty coming up at twenty. Want to get to

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Speaker 1: all your questions. We only if we can take some

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Speaker 1: can do that. I love the interaction we have. Kent

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Speaker 1: Gerson is executive producing, and you're gonna You're gonna love

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Speaker 1: our listeners are gonna love this would you rather? Segments

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Speaker 1: you put together? Because I'm going down in this list.

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Speaker 1: We're basically gonna break down. I would say half of

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Speaker 1: the hot names that people are yeah, this is, this is, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dame brug and I are gonna go back and forth

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Speaker 1: and I haven't heard these names yet. Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: This will be fun because these guys, a lot of

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Speaker 1: have their cross checks and things like that. Though what

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Speaker 1: First and foremost, you're trying to catch up to the underclassmen, right,

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Speaker 1: because you know you did the bulk of your work

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Speaker 1: and then the juniors you knew who were coming out, right,

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Speaker 1: But there's always surprisers, there's always I mean, this year

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Speaker 1: First time ever we've come close to that number. Um,

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Speaker 1: A lot of teams will stack their draft board before

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Speaker 1: the combine, right, Yeah, we used to do that green Bay.

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Speaker 1: a very enticing looking list of wide receivers. Talk plenty

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Speaker 1: this is a very deep tight end class. So clearly

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that those there aren't talented players

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Speaker 1: mean three, No, way right, I can't find the first

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Speaker 1: know it's gonna be enticing. I think an interesting question

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Speaker 1: who will be the first running back, wide receiver, tight end,

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Speaker 1: about this on Twitter this morning, so I know your answer,

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Speaker 1: you what though that context? Right? Oh no, I love

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Speaker 1: the Alabama running back. Let's put that in context. When

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Speaker 1: was the last time that happened? When was the last time?

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Speaker 1: The first Vernon Davis probably? Yeah? What ten? He went

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Speaker 1: top ten? But even Eric Ebron went behind Sammy Watkins

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Speaker 1: Any there's no chance that Jacobs gets taken before that, right,

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Speaker 1: the Alabama running back? Absolutely it could. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: on metcalf? You think? So? I don't like that. Look

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Speaker 1: you just gave me about Harman well in the receiver.

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Speaker 1: North Carolina state right in the talking about him being

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Speaker 1: in the first of those three positions drafted. That would

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Speaker 1: surprise me. Yeah. I like Harmon, but that would surprise

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Speaker 1: me if he's the first um. Who is the first

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Speaker 1: I have. Have you been talking about this on Twitter?

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of people in the mentions talking

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Speaker 1: about trading into a round one and it just sounds

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Speaker 1: like a very broadest. That's something I love to do. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's a very brought us uh idea. I had somebody

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Speaker 1: asked me what it would take to trade to Marcus

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Speaker 1: Lawrence what what could you do to get you know,

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Speaker 1: could you trade to Marcus Lawrence to get back in

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Speaker 1: the first round? Probably? Serious? Why would you do that? Though? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying no, I mean there's there's you know,

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Speaker 1: people you're gonna draft. That's yeah, that's what we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Rudin get out of here. No, No, we were talking

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Speaker 1: about those defensive ends and stuff like that. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I let me ask you this, if

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Speaker 1: like with Sean Lee, if you if you had that

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Speaker 1: kind of situation where you had an established player but

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Speaker 1: you had to two guys that you felt really really

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Speaker 1: good about. See, people don't feel good about Taco and

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Speaker 1: they don't and they really don't trust and they really

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Speaker 1: don't trust Randy Gregory right now. But if they did

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Speaker 1: if either one of those, if that doesn't exist, though

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Speaker 1: there there's no if because that's not the case. No,

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Speaker 1: but if okay, if that, but they do have it

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Speaker 1: at linebacker, they're gonna make a move at linebacker I'm

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Speaker 1: aut defensive end though. I'm just telling you, though, if

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Speaker 1: you felt good about these that they drafted guys too,

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Speaker 1: but eventually try and take over, didn't they. Why are

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Speaker 1: you trying to get me to fight you right now? Non? No,

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Speaker 1: literally no. Marcus Lawrence is the centerpiece of the line

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Speaker 1: and it is a very What could you get for

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Speaker 1: him right now? Probably a decent amount. Could you get

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Speaker 1: the same Hall you got from Chicago day? Um? Probably not? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm probably not quite as much. Could you get one

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Speaker 1: in the three out of it? I'd be shocked if

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Speaker 1: he couldn't. Ye, I would like to think you could. Okay,

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Speaker 1: shocked if okay, one on three? Okay, that's how you

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Speaker 1: get back in this draft? Gross? Which all right, well here,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's actually take No. I'm just saying, if

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Speaker 1: that's you know you want that, you look, you look

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Speaker 1: at options, you franchise him, and then you trade. It

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be I don't send good players away from your team.

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Speaker 1: We worked okay for the Raiders, right it was a good,

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Speaker 1: awesome idea, and then John Gruden got up there after

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Speaker 1: every game we just can't get to the quarterback. Let's

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Speaker 1: see who they pick Okay, I'm not trying to defend Gruden.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you you guys see, we shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: close minded about options. We're not closed minded about getting

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Speaker 1: into the ring closed mind. It's fine, we'll talk about it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we talked about it. Boom, No, it's no longer an option.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough. What's your question? This is a good one

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Speaker 1: from Facy. This is the type of advanced thinking I like.

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Speaker 1: I liked your question. I favored it. I think Round

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Speaker 1: two has traditionally been around that the front office is

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Speaker 1: willing to take a risk on players, whether medical or

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Speaker 1: character reasons. With no first round pick this year, that

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Speaker 1: changes things. So what's more likely taking a risk with

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Speaker 1: that pick or trading up? Because I do agree that

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Speaker 1: the fact that this is your first pick of the

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Speaker 1: draft kind of takes away some of your what it's

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Speaker 1: flexibility right with who you want to pick there. It

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Speaker 1: makes you have second thoughts about packaging two and a

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Speaker 1: three to go up and get somebody, because if you

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Speaker 1: pack you your two and three, you're only getting into

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Speaker 1: like the now. You got a compensatory fourth now too,

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Speaker 1: but you're only getting into like the forties. It's not

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Speaker 1: like we're talking about trading a second or third and

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Speaker 1: getting into the late first round. If you trade your

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Speaker 1: second in your third, you're only getting up, okay a

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Speaker 1: little bit, if you're gonna go up to get to

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Speaker 1: the forties. And and I had this question asked me

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Speaker 1: last night about Adderly, the safety. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: would trade up for a safety. But we last year

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Speaker 1: we were talking about Sutton and how we were gonna

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Speaker 1: get to Indianapolis at forty and draft a wide receiver. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about that, Cortland Sutton, Yeah, from SMU.

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Speaker 1: But okay, who who do you have in mind? Who

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Speaker 1: would you trade up? What would you trade up for

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Speaker 1: in this draft? Which is another's that we actually Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna take. I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a medical risk player. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna take that. And I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a characterist guy at fifty eight. Answer to

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Speaker 1: answer her question, not having the first round pick, you

565
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Speaker 1: don't have that leniency this year, like this guy needs

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Speaker 1: to contribute right right away. Yeah, and so I think

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Speaker 1: I don't think they would be as willing to do that. Um,

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Speaker 1: so you don't think they go for more of an

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Speaker 1: upside player. You think they need someone that's going to

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Speaker 1: contribute your one, absolutely, I mean yeah, I know, okay.

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Speaker 1: They everybody keeps saying your first round picks Amari Cooper,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, but like what do we always say, like

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Speaker 1: your first, second, and third round pick should be able

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Speaker 1: to play a role. Yeah, even that's different than all

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Speaker 1: I said was contribute. I didn't say he had to

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Speaker 1: be a pro bowler. No, no, no, But I think

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Speaker 1: it's okay. Like, for instance, in my two round mark

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Speaker 1: I gave Renell Wren. Yeah he's raw. Yeah, but he's

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Speaker 1: a guy that you project him forward and you think

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a contributor, but he might not

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Speaker 1: start for you as a rookie. Will he play? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he will. I just need him to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's okay. That's especially with Rod Marinelli. Like a first

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Speaker 1: round pick isn't gonna just play all the snaps on

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Speaker 1: the defensive line, right, So that doesn't bother me, all right,

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00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: take they wouldn't take a first round tackle anyway, We've

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Speaker 1: learned that or lesson about that, haven't, which I'm curious

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Speaker 1: about that is, like, since this is their first pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft. You know, do they apply that us

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Speaker 1: go ahead and didn't take it? Yeah? No, do they

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Speaker 1: know they're like, well, we can't use our first pick

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Speaker 1: on a d tackle, especially considering you know, Christi Shard.

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Speaker 1: How much say does he have in terms of that

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Speaker 1: great segue, Dave. I love it because Jason says, of

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Speaker 1: the popular needs to address at fifty eight D tackle

596
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Speaker 1: safety receivers, tight end, who can the Cowboys most afford

597
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Speaker 1: to wait on? Meaning he's saying, you know, he thinks

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Speaker 1: that wide receiver in tight end you can get value

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Speaker 1: on day three. Yeah, YadA, YadA. I think, so what

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Speaker 1: do y'all think? Wide receivers? Probably any it's easier to

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Speaker 1: find wide receivers on day three than it is any

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Speaker 1: other position, especially we're talking about contributing early um and

603
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: this is a deep wide receiver class. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: think that would probably be the easy answer. Like a

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Speaker 1: lot of these tight ends you like, but we're talking

606
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Speaker 1: about you know, Dalton Schultz situation. You know, guys, fourth round,

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Speaker 1: I mean we had better grand I mean he was

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Speaker 1: taken in the fifth right, fourth round, that's right, because yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, to me, the kid Sternburger makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense here Texas, Texas A and M. But you

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Speaker 1: have to take him at fifty eight. I think I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be there, and you're with your

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Speaker 1: late third, let alone the fourth. I didn't get to

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Speaker 1: take him at fifty eight. You see him as a

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Speaker 1: second round player, you see him as a late too

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Speaker 1: early three. Yes, late too early three. Okay, I think

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Speaker 1: I see him at the top seventy five pick. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I gotta love with that, all right. So let me

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Speaker 1: ask you this, would you rather move up in the

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Speaker 1: third round or move up in the second round? You know,

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Speaker 1: it depends who's there. If I'm moving up, the only

622
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Speaker 1: way I'm moving up is this for a guy that

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Speaker 1: I have a high grade on that's fall Like if IRV.

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Speaker 1: Smith from Alabama somehow he falls to pick forty two,

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Speaker 1: I will go I will trade my second, my third

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Speaker 1: to go up and get IRF. Smith. I would feel

627
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Speaker 1: okay doing that. Yeah. So what you sort of just

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Speaker 1: said right there is they kind of need to pull

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Speaker 1: the trigger on a defensive tackle if they can sooner

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Speaker 1: rather than later. Yeah, I mean I think so, um,

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Speaker 1: because I think I thinks among those positions. I think

632
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver would be the easier one to fall or

633
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of stretch. I think wide receivers will stretch,

634
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: there's no question, especially if if what they're looking for

635
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: is a slot slot receiver. I mean, not to take

636
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: anything away from those guys, it is the easiest position

637
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: of the wide receivers. Talking about an X, Y or Z.

638
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: It is easier to find that why that slot receiver

639
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Speaker 1: later in the draft compared to an X or a

640
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: Z or some of the other positions. Yeah, you gotta

641
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler special for you? What not? Really, he didn't.

642
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: He didn't play at Division three or anything. He played

643
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: in the SEC. But Sam Sam is one of about

644
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: six people that asked me about Georgia tight end Isaac Naa.

645
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: Isaac not a not a bad player. Ah. David Hellman

646
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: appreciate it, I really do. Kind of like the rest

647
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: of George's offense, the receivers Ridley and Icole, Hardman and

648
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: Holliman underused, underutilized. Um. But he's he was the top

649
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: tight end coming out three years ago as a recruit.

650
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: And you see why. A really good sized kid. He

651
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: can run UM. He's reliable at the catch point. I

652
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: think he had the best catch rate of any tight

653
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: end in this group. Um, I think thirty five targets,

654
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: thirty receptions something like that. So not a lot of usage.

655
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: You know, the sample size isn't there, but you think

656
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: there's more. You can get more out of him, similar

657
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: to the way you think there's more and Riley Ridley. Uh,

658
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: just sample size isn't great. So I to me, when

659
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: you look at these tight ends, him Smith, IERF Smith

660
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: easy to top three tight ends, you're not going to

661
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Speaker 1: change for you. No, it's that's the top tier Hawkinson fan.

662
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: And you even said this about this tight ends that

663
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: even if even if fan has a better workout, yeah

664
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Speaker 1: than as a kid. No, you're not going to change that.

665
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Trust part part of it. Oh he's gonna trust a tape.

666
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: Part of the reason you like fans because he is

667
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: a great athlete. Yeah. So if he doesn't perform well,

668
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: then that's a fred flag. But if he does perform well, okay,

669
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: that's what you expected. The same thing with DK Metcalf.

670
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: When DK Metcalf at six four and two hundred and

671
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: thirty pounds goes out and runs a you know, four

672
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: to four four, it shouldn't skyrocket upboards because that's what

673
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: you're up. He'll be talked about. That'll be the buzz,

674
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: although I'm he probably's not gonna work out of the combine.

675
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: We'll see. He was medically clear, but I don't know

676
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: if he's ready. Yeah. Well, I'll get more inful one

677
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: that later. Um, But okay, the top three tight ends

678
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: Hawkinson Fan Smith, to me, those are the top three

679
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: tight ends. And then you have a group of Sternberger, Nada, Cayden, Smith,

680
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: Docks and Knox Dawson Knox. Those guys are in that

681
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: second to fourth round range where you know you maybe

682
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: don't have to trade up for a tight end. No, no,

683
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: maybe my idea of going up and getting one of

684
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: those guys, or you talked about IRV Smith, I would

685
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: trade up for IRF Smith is Again I think he's

686
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: well how close he did? I need to watch the

687
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: Georgia Kid obviously, but how close is the Georgia kid too?

688
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: Is he? Him? And Sternburger. I've got a for Sternburger's

689
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: four among the tight ends and not as five for me.

690
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: There you go, So I think I've got a told

691
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: me I don't have to trade up for a tight end. Well,

692
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to. But the thing, the thing that

693
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: you always have to keep in mind is like that

694
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: they could feel completely differently, like they could be like, well,

695
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: if sternburgers there, that would be great. We're not a

696
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: sounds really good. They're not taken not Yeah, but for

697
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they won't like him. I think another thing,

698
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: whatever reason they won't like it. But that's just the

699
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: way this works. I'm not saying that specifically. Another thing

700
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: for fans to keep in mind though, is tight end

701
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: traditionally is one of the positions where we don't see

702
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: a lot of rookie success and boom and thank you

703
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: Dane and a big reasactly. A big reason for that

704
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: is because, you know, for the similar reasons we don't

705
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: see a lot of rookie receivers have instant success is

706
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: because of chemistry. Rot running is tougher cover. The coverage

707
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: j C in the NFL is night and day. The

708
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: coverage it's on. I'm waiting for that guy at Tampa

709
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: to show upward. Yeah, and with tight ends, not only

710
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: you factor in the route running and being a proficient receiver,

711
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: but the blocking Titans have to I was wrong about

712
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz. I was way too optimistic by him coming

713
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: in here and starting, oh yeah, that was stupid on

714
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: my part. And you're right, you're you're not wrong about that.

715
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Did you see I saw this tweet last night in

716
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. Twenty thirteen saw Tyler Eifert, zach Ertz, Vance McDonald,

717
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, and Jordan Reid all get drafted. Is that good?

718
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys drafted Gavin Escobar and just I'm scarred, I'm scarred

719
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: at this by this position. Like Blake Jarwin came on strong,

720
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: Schultz is gonna get better as he gets stronger and works,

721
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: Like I just, I'm not trying to since you're a

722
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: cowboy expert on this panel. You're a cowboy expert. You

723
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: know some things. No, but I'm just saying, since you're

724
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: the expert, that's why we have you here, among other things.

725
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: Do you feel better about the coaching situation now that

726
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: maybe that this guy, that maybe that Doug Nussmer has

727
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: a way of getting guys ready and maybe the evaluation

728
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: of the position will be a little bit better and

729
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: maybe that you know, we saw improvement from those guys, well,

730
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: and well that's does that give you a little hope

731
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: that's not going to make the mistakes that they made

732
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: in the past. That's what gives me hope that I

733
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: don't need to press the panic button at tight end honestly,

734
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: because I'm not trying to pretend like their pro bowlers.

735
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: But we saw they approved all. Both of those guys

736
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: make some pretty big strides and they certainly weren't liabilities.

737
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: As I mean, Jarwin especially was a big contributor toward

738
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: the playoff push. And it's got It's got nothing to

739
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: do with their ability to evaluate tight ends or nuss

740
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: Myer's ability to coach them. It's just a hard position

741
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: to acclimate to, especially when half the offenses in college

742
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: are like the tight end position is completely different, like

743
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: that you might as well be playing a different sport.

744
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: Do you agree with he just said about the evaluation

745
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: the coaching of the position in terms us tight end specifically,

746
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: Just yeah, yeah, I mean, well we look at I

747
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: think that has something to do with it. I think

748
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: you've got to evaluate these guys the right way, David,

749
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: what you talk about before you pick them. Yeah, we

750
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: had the same evaluation. Is that you love Schultz, I know,

751
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: but it's not like they made a mistake picking the guy. No,

752
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying though, I'm just trying to figure

753
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: out I think I think I'm more confident about the

754
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: group net are the way they're evaluating them now than

755
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: I was four or five years ago. Oh, if you

756
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: want to go back that, well, yeah, everything they do

757
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: now it seems proven track record a little being better.

758
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think the Cowboys are drafting. I mean,

759
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: they're one of the top five organizations in the league

760
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: in terms of hitting in the draft overleap five or

761
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: six years. Yeah, I mean, any history says that's that's

762
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: pretty accurate because I mean they've had some mixed results

763
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: on Day two, but Day one, except for really just Taco,

764
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: the last few years has been lights out. It's been

765
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: the foundation of why this team is a playoffs. Their

766
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: Day two results look a hell of a lot better

767
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen than they have recently. Jalen Randy Gregory's

768
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: playing pretty well. So who's you, yeah, Geeto, Yeah, yeah,

769
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: no question, But I think I mean, really, besides Gavin Escobar,

770
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if they've really missed on the tight

771
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: end position. Well, they've gotten rid of a good one. Yeah,

772
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: I mean Bennette Martellis that was more about Garrett's brother

773
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: coaching him, messing him up. No, and blame him. I

774
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: think it would be lunacy. It would be lunacy to

775
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: assume that, you know, they can't find a good tight

776
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: end this year because of Gavin Escobar or Martellis Bennett

777
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: or Anthony Fasano or any of that stuff, like that's

778
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: ancient history. If they don't draft a tight end second

779
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: or third round, is there a point in drafting a

780
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: tight end? And on Day three exactly because we gotta

781
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: be so. We gotta be so. Like on day through

782
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: the draft, when when we start getting close to their

783
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: pick and we're start talking about best players on the board,

784
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: are you guys gonna keep pushing the tight end? They

785
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: don't take one? Not pushing a tight end. Who once

786
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: you get to the fourth, fifth round, sixth round, seventh round,

787
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: who are you looking at? That is an upgrade over

788
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: who you have on the roster already. I'm not sure

789
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: there is. If I was in charge of this thing,

790
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: I would sign a moderately priced free agent. It could

791
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: be Jeff Swame, it could be somebody else's tight end,

792
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Speaker 1: and I would worry about tight end next year when

793
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Speaker 1: I have a first round pick. There you go, that's me,

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848
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852
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: or this evening wherever you might be in the world.

853
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: We appreciate all you very much and UH look forward

854
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: to always doing these shows every week. We've got to

855
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: combine coverage coming up at the end of the month,

856
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: we'll be there the whole entire week with shows. Should

857
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: have a list, official invite list coming out here next

858
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: today or tomorrow should be Yeah, so make sure you

859
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: check out. You know, it's kind of Burgler or before

860
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: we know it, David Hellman's account Hellman DC or Dane

861
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: will definitely have it before me. Okay, Scott, we'll have

862
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 1: snubs and surprises and yeah, a couple read that snubs list,

863
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay, anybody, Yeah, yeah, well I take a long

864
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: look at the snubs list. I started on my this

865
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: snubs list this morning because I've heard a few including

866
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: like Darwin Thompson from Uta State, um, Michael Dogbe from

867
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: Temple a few others. But um, there's last year there

868
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: were thirty eight players drafted who weren't at the Combine.

869
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: So just because a guy doesn't get a Combine invite, right,

870
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: not mean that he's you know, not gonna get drafted.

871
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: So thirty eight players. That's I think fifteen percent of

872
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: the draft. It's a pretty high percentage to get drafted

873
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: and not be at the comment. Yeah, and next week

874
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: when we have our show, we'll probably get into those

875
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: what's the what's the flip side of that, like how

876
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: many guys that get invited to Combine don't get drafted?

877
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: Probably like sixty I've got it right here. Um, last

878
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: year Combine invites to go undrafted one hundred and eighteen players,

879
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: So one hundred and eighteen guys that got invited to

880
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: the Combine didn't get drafted, correct, Holy crap, that's a

881
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: poor job at the league. There were three hundred and

882
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: thirty six players invited last year. That's almost that's a

883
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: third of your talent's thirty five point one percent. That's insane.

884
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: Two hundred and eighteen player the three hundred and thirty

885
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: six are invited, two hundred and eighteen percent or two

886
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen players were drafted sixty four point nine percent,

887
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen were undrafted thirty five point one percent.

888
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: That's not good, thank you, Jason, And I mean that's

889
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: pretty consistent. I did the last five years. Get a

890
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: sample set, run through that real quick um combine invites

891
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: to go undrafted. Last year was one hundred and eighteen

892
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: year before one oh five, year before one hundred and seventeen,

893
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: year before that, one hundred and eight year before that

894
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and eleven. So every year it's been pretty consistent.

895
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: I know, about a third, just over a third of

896
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: your draft pool. Wow, I know, I mean, ay, it's

897
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: a hard target to hit, but I gotta believe you

898
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: could get it up toward eighty percent. Yeah, we need it.

899
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: We will get into that next week. Okay, get to

900
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: thee These would you rather? Would you rather? And would

901
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: you rather? Is players within a position, within a round.

902
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: These are these are the guys you have done a

903
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: good job with this. These are all guys that I

904
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: hear getting mentioned in the Okay, Brad, well, Okay, we

905
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: got fifteen minutes to kind of get through this list,

906
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: so let's give it a little longer. Would you rather?

907
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: Iwa State running back David Montgomery or Memphis running back

908
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: Darryl Henderson. That's a good one. I like that a

909
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: lot because that's two guys I have rated very similar,

910
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: but they offered different things. One's more home run threat,

911
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: one's more, you know, tougher between the tackles. Um I

912
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: would prefer I would take Montgomery for IA State because

913
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: I think he's gives me a little more value as

914
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: a three down player, a little more reliable. But Henderson's

915
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: a home run threat. Yeah, this is where this is

916
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: the one. I mean, I I love Henderson, I like

917
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: them both, but Henderson at Memphis it's just it's five

918
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: a one ninety nine. But you know, to me, I

919
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: just saw a guy that was an explosive player. I mean,

920
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, another guy was just more of

921
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: a kind of you know, just a pounder, bad weather back,

922
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a running between the tackles, and

923
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, you know, one's a grinder one exactly. And

924
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 1: I think with me, with Henderson, I just didn't feel

925
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: like that he needed much room to make something big happen.

926
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: And I think the other guy needs more room. I

927
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: really do not. And again I'm not trying to, you know,

928
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: but if you gave me a choice, I'm taking Henderson myself.

929
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: I just think he's I think Montgomery is if you

930
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: want to if you want a tough guy that catches

931
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: the ball, and you know who to pick up on

932
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: the blitz and all that stuff. He's he's got some

933
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: complete back to him. But I didn't see a guy

934
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: that really had the speed to turn the corner and

935
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But no, there's nothing special about him

936
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: as an athlete, right, He's just a steady, steady player.

937
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: But I give me the explosive guy in this case,

938
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: my player comparison for Henderson. Yeah, Dalvin Cook, I think

939
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: you see a lot of similar all right, swerving in

940
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: and out there you go. I worry a little bit

941
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: about that offense. I mean that offense opened up some

942
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: huge holes for him. Yeah, but it's gonna be about

943
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,479
Speaker 1: a quarterback there, Dalvin Cook. Darius Geics, like history says

944
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: like a pretty good running back is gonna be there

945
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: in the Cowboys range. How many running backs you have

946
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: ahead of Henderson on your board so far? Let me

947
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: tell you Jacobs. Jacobs is really the only one. Okay,

948
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: actually actually actually take that back, Uh, I have I

949
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: like Trey Williams, and I like Singletary ahead of yeah,

950
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: ahead of Henderson, tray ViOn Williams. Williams. Yeah from a

951
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: m Yeah, I agree with you on those. The only

952
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: other guy, I would add, is I like Damian Harris.

953
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: Damon Harrison's Damon Harris is like seventy five percent version

954
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: of Zeke. That's who he is. Yeah. Yeah, he's not

955
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: one hundred percent Zeke. He's not Zeke, but he's like

956
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: seventy five percent Zeke. All right, I gotta speed y'all up? Yeah? Sorry? Uh?

957
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Would you rather Hakeem Butler wide receiver Iowa State or

958
00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: Texas his own Jordan Humphrey? Mmmm? It kind of depends

959
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: on what you want, a slot or an outside stretch guy,

960
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: you know, like what you know, what do you really

961
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: need in your offense? Because little Jordan Humphrey is that big,

962
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: oversized slot receiver who can find those open zones, help

963
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: you on crossers, strong at the catch point. He's gonna

964
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: high point well. And meanwhile, Butler is more of the

965
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: downfield threat where jump balls and you know he's gonna

966
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: Humphrey makes some place down the field. Yeah yeah, but

967
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. So I mean, I guess

968
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: I take probably, and I feel better about little Jordan

969
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: Humphrey in terms of what I'm getting. I feel better

970
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: about understanding what I'm getting. But Butler's got more. I

971
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: think more upside because of those big play potential that

972
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: he has. Could could how they run be the factor?

973
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: And who's taken first. I don't think either is gonna

974
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: run very well. That's what I'm saying, though. Yeah, I

975
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: mean if one runs better, if one train's better, it

976
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: happens to run better than the other. Are we going

977
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: to see a guy go one over the Butler's probably

978
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna run like a four or five six and Humphrey's

979
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: gonna run like a four six one? Yeah, something like that,

980
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, and everybody's not gonna like him. And then

981
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: you watch the tape and they both make plays down

982
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: I means ran a four or five eight, Yeah, it's

983
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: not Michael Thomas ran a four five seven. Yeah. Wide

984
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: receiver is a technical position. I'd take Humphrey over this guy. Yes,

985
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: I agree. All right, here's glad you had an answer. Well,

986
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: that's true, but I do like Humphrey a lot. This

987
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: is one cowboy fans will like this one. Um Stanford

988
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: tight end, Cayden Smith or a and M's Jay Sternburger.

989
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: Who would you rather? I'm taking Sternburger. Sternburger. I'm surprised

990
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: you didn't like Katon Smith that much. I just struggled.

991
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: I like him a lot better than Dalton Schultz was

992
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: lash year. It was Brian's guy. Yeah, Dalton Schultz he

993
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: hates all of a sudden. No, I don't hate him.

994
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't hate him. I just I it was disappointed

995
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: in him. Not mad. I disappointed. No, it's disappointed because

996
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: I felt like that he was. I felt like he

997
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: was gonna come in and start. It's got three more

998
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: years on his kind, I know, but I just felt

999
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: like that. You know, the Stanford. I fell in love

1000
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: with the Stanford. You just like David Show. So now

1001
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: you're overcompensating the other way, disliking Cayton Smith got burned

1002
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: a little bit by Dalton. So now you're I don't

1003
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: I don't see a guy with much after catch. Here

1004
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: with this guy, all these tight ends, I watched, everybody's

1005
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: doing something after catch that Kayton Smith does not. It

1006
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: does nothing after the catch, did Jason Winton except for

1007
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: that one time without Yeah, I'm saying I just don't

1008
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: see a guy that extends routes and stuff like that. Well,

1009
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: you want a big time playmaker at tight end, or

1010
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: you'd love yes, that'd be great. But in the third

1011
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: round where you're probably gonna get surer can make plays.

1012
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: It gets We were live watching this guy do well,

1013
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: and that's why I think he's a Sturnburger. If you

1014
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: want him, you have to take him in the second

1015
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: round where Cayton Smith I think he could be there

1016
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: in the third round. Okay, I think those two players

1017
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: are your day two options for the Cowboys at tight

1018
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: end in a second to be Sternberger and the third

1019
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: by Katon Smith. And they're different. Kane Smith's a chain mover,

1020
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna give you more as a blocker. Um,

1021
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: he did you see a guy got much movement though,

1022
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: That's what Bobby Kane Smith. Yeah, he's not an overpowering guy,

1023
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: but he doesn't lose a lot either. I mean he's

1024
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: a sustained guy or you know, he's more of a

1025
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: stalemate guy, not an overpower guy. Okay, so Sternberger. Sternberger

1026
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: is the answer. He fumbled in overtime for he did

1027
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: by the way, bad bad fumbled. The box score didn't

1028
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: say that it did. It should have Mississippi State defensive

1029
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: tackle Jeffrey Simmons or Simmons and done unless you say

1030
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: Quinn and Williams, well Clemson Christian Wilkins, who we already

1031
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: know Dan doesn't like. No, No, I like Christian Wilkins. Okay,

1032
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: do it to flip it the other way. Oh you

1033
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: don't like Lawrence. I'm sorry, yea flip I flip it

1034
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: the other way. Quinn, Yeah, go Quinnon Williams with that guy.

1035
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: You gotta go Quinnon. Simmons is great, but Quinn and

1036
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: Williams actually gives you are people gonna like Simmons just

1037
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: as much you think no, Williams gives you a better

1038
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: pass rush value. I mean, Simmons can get to the

1039
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: quarterback with that power, but Williams is such a better

1040
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: pass rusher. And if you can create an interior, yeah,

1041
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: no doubt that's a difference maker. See. I think Quinnon

1042
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: Williams is one of the best players in this draft.

1043
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: He's a number two players in this draft. I think

1044
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: easy does could Simmons could? And maybe not? Like right away, like,

1045
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: could could he play on the edge? Does he have

1046
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: any type of flex like that? He just he doesn't

1047
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: seem like he's built like most defensive tackles. Like he

1048
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: looks leaning six three three eleven. I think he's I

1049
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: mean his calves are huge. Yeah, like he's he's really

1050
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: really he's just a grown wa talk about him. And

1051
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: those are two physical players. Oh yeah, I mean that's

1052
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: you watch. I mean they how you judge defensive tackles.

1053
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: If you could see their number in their name the

1054
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: whole time, you know, yeah, if they're not getting turned

1055
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: and washed and stuff like that, they're pretty good. These guys.

1056
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: You you you you see ninety four and you know

1057
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: you see those numbers. I think Simmons and Wilkins, that's

1058
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: a good one because I think they they offer something

1059
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: a little different. Simmons is more of the grown man.

1060
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: He's got more power at the point of attack. Got

1061
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: some off the field stuff too, right, he does. And

1062
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: that's gonna be and that's gonna be a really interesting

1063
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: storyline with him because it's not as bad as I think.

1064
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: You see defensive tackles fall before because of injury and sure,

1065
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: yeah things sure with Christian wilpon Allen, Yeah, definitely with

1066
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins, you're getting a guy that's more of an

1067
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: upfield penetrator. Um, you know, the flexible hips, the way

1068
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: you can get through gaps, um talking to people at

1069
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: clumpson they rave about him. They one guy said that

1070
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: the only, uh, only player they've had that was better

1071
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: from a leadership, maturity integral standpoint was Deshaun Watson. So

1072
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: that's pretty high praise Christian Balkins. So, I mean, that's

1073
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: why Christian what they're both gonna be top fifteen guys.

1074
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: Simmons is a monster though Simmons is rated just ahead

1075
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: of Wilkins for men, who who would you rather? We're

1076
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: gonna separate the two Devons who we already talked about,

1077
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: but arguable. I mean, if you're looking for a linebacker,

1078
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: your best two bets LSU's Devin White and Michigan's Devin Bush.

1079
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: If Bush were just two inches, you're gonna say this

1080
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: if ifs we're a fifth, we'd all be drunk. Dane, Yes,

1081
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: you're right. I like that. It's just it's tough because

1082
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: and it's not something that we're just getting hung up on,

1083
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 1: like arm length and numbers. You see it on tape

1084
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: where oh you do you know he's whether it's getting

1085
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: off blocks or finishing tackles. But he's such a powerful player.

1086
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: He's such a rangy player. Yes, so smart I love

1087
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: so much about Devin Bush. I just the length is

1088
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: going to lead to some negative plays here and there,

1089
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: and you got to live with that. And I think

1090
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: you will live with that. But I think that Devin

1091
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: wits the answer. I'll tell you what though, man for

1092
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: a shorter guy, he can hold his ground. Yeah, I mean,

1093
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: you're danger right though, you do see some time. But

1094
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: this guy's got a real nose for the ball. He's

1095
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: a smart guy. I mean he sees stuff and he's gone.

1096
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: He's running, I mean sideline to sideline player, he get

1097
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: through the trash phills, gaps. He's short. That's that. He

1098
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: is a five eleven guy, and he might not he

1099
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: might not be five eve I'd be five to eleven.

1100
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: In my two round mock draft I did this week,

1101
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: I the Packers going jechipool in the two rounds jichipool.

1102
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: Uh Noah fant Devin Bush loved what they got in

1103
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: that draft. I think that'd be a home trying to

1104
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: get a job with the Packers. What do you got

1105
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: going there? If that worked out, it'd be grateful. How

1106
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 1: close would I mean, I know we kind of touched

1107
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: on this. How close would you stack Devin White to

1108
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith. I think there's a big difference in instincts there. Yeah,

1109
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: I do too. Roquan was a stud what though they

1110
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: both create turnovers. Though Devin White well and when he

1111
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: can he can, he's got I feel a lot better

1112
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: about Roquan Smith and coverage too. Yeah, Like I think

1113
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: he's just a lot more natural in that area. Devin

1114
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: White really wasn't asked to do that a lot. He

1115
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: did some spot dropping and you see the range, but

1116
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: he's just more of a C bowl get ball guy

1117
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: where Roquan I think you said a little more instinctual anticipation,

1118
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. All right, we got two more

1119
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: to do in three minutes, to do it rapid fire

1120
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: Clemson corner, Trayvon Mullen, Vandy corner, Joe Juan Williams. That's

1121
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: a good one. I like that one. Yeah, I'm not

1122
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: done pretty good so far. Give you credit. Their their

1123
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: tags are touching for me right now based on Brian

1124
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: loves that. He loves to hear that. I love to

1125
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: hear that, you know, because there's but's this, what's the

1126
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: where's what's the round? What's the projection here? By mid

1127
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: second second? Yeah, for sure. I mean they're both tall,

1128
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: bright guys. Maybe before Dallas picks Joe one. Williams is

1129
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: one of the most physically impressive. Just when you look

1130
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: at him, he's so physically impressive for a corner you

1131
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: would swear, you would swear it's he'd make Jalen Rams

1132
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: you look like his little brother. Yeah. Wow, Like he's

1133
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: just he's so physically Yeah, he's he's really really but

1134
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: good looking kids. He's more of a four five five athlete.

1135
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna get beat with speed. Uh, you know you

1136
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: worry about that. And with Mullen again, he's tall, long rangey,

1137
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: but doesn't have a great fuel with the back to

1138
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: the ball. I mean you could poke holes in both

1139
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: these guys. They just both look really good at in

1140
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: there uh in pads and they run really well. So

1141
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't know who I Mullin slightly ahead of Williams

1142
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: right now, but again tags are touching, you know. I

1143
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: I give me Williams from Vanderbilt and I'm just gonna

1144
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, again, they're both tall guys. I love when

1145
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: Brian finds his notes on a guy, but like his

1146
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: face lights No, no, no, I'm just looking at Mullin's

1147
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: notes and stuff like that, and you know, I just

1148
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: I think that he play, Yeah, he does. He plays

1149
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: with more of a burst. Mullin plays with a burst,

1150
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: but he tends to float. You know, you watch me coverage,

1151
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: he floats and that bothers me about him. All Right,

1152
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: you like Williams, I'm cutting out off. Yeah. Thanks, two

1153
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: guys that Cowboys fans. I have been enamored with safety

1154
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: Taylor rap out of Washington and Jonathan Abram out of

1155
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. Another one where I have him rated pretty closely. Um,

1156
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: so you had Abram going the pick after the Cowboys

1157
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: I did to the Colts. Uh. He's more of your

1158
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: traditional strong safety. Um. He has arranged to hold up

1159
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: in coverage, but that's not what he does best. He's physical.

1160
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: I love the energy that he brings to the field

1161
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: and he's kind of like an old soul type of guy.

1162
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: He's married or he as a kid, but he brings

1163
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: it every single time he's on the field. Taylor Raps

1164
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: kind of similar where it's it's a lot of intelligence,

1165
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: it's a lot of understanding angles. Neither are great athletes

1166
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 1: where you consider them as like a true center field

1167
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: single high type, but they're versatile. They could do a

1168
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: lot of different things. I would go rap, but I

1169
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: have them Raps, my number three safety abras, my number

1170
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: four safety. I'll tell you what it give me rap

1171
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: I mean. And I appreciate what he's saying about the

1172
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: Mississippi State kid because I don't think he's wrong about that.

1173
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: But with Rap I had my notes were so good

1174
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: on him about time and blitzes, ability to run and close,

1175
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: a quickness of his feet, stays in coverage, He's not

1176
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: afraid to stick his nose in there. He doesn't miss tackles.

1177
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: He's just a tough guy. And I if you're gonna

1178
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: if you want me to have a safety, give me

1179
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: guy that can play near the line, play back noses, assignments,

1180
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: doesn't make mistakes. But I'll tell you they're both really,

1181
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: really good players. But I would I would draft Rot

1182
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: before I would the other kid. I agree, And so

1183
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: that's a rat. It is a rap I will. I'm curious,

1184
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, safety being a need. Obviously, we'll see how

1185
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: it changes. Yeah, I know Christoph Shard was here last year,

1186
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: but I'm still fascinated by the impact that he could

1187
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 1: have in He's still gonna have a big impact yet, right, yeah,

1188
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: get ready, I mean the Cam Chancellor. Yeah, they Let's

1189
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: see what happens round Pitts. Let's see what happens in

1190
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: free agency too with that safety position. Let's see what

1191
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: kind of recruiter Chris raher Shard is. See we can

1192
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: get one of his former players. If not, we're talking

1193
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: about Taylor rapping on the movie ET before I have

1194
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: him ET come Home. Man. I like that, Oh, I

1195
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,479
Speaker 1: like it? All right, Well, that is all the time

1196
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: that we have for the Draft Show today. I just

1197
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: want to thank everybody involved, Dane Burglar, David Hilman, Garrison,

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Speaker 1: the executi producer. We want to thank you guys out

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Speaker 1: there for hanging out with us, whether you hang out

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00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,720
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01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,240
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