WEBVTT - BA Q&A: I Need A Full Time Job! ft. KeVonya

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, ba fam, It's Mandy here with another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>a existing listener, I hope she will become one after this.

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<v Speaker 1>At least she was brave enough to submit a question

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<v Speaker 1>to our podcast, and I'm really excited to have her here.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome key Vanya, who is calling us from Atlanta, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, girl, Hey, I'm glad to be here. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for having me on. I'm very excited to have

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<v Speaker 2>this discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's going to talk to a bunch of strangers

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<v Speaker 1>about what's happening in your career and everything. This is normal,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a normal Tuesday. Well, I love this type of

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<v Speaker 1>question first of all, and we're gonna listen. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take a listen to your question for just come

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<v Speaker 1>right back, okay, because I am ready to defend my LinkedIn. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>LinkedIn is ba and I'm going to defend her at

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<v Speaker 1>all costs. So let's listen to your question real fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, my name is Keivanya.

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<v Speaker 2>First, thank you so much for taking the time out

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<v Speaker 2>to answer my question. I wanted to give you a

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<v Speaker 2>little context before asking the question. So I'm a contractor

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<v Speaker 2>right now seeking out a full time role in the

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<v Speaker 2>field that I'm currently working in. Before this, I was

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<v Speaker 2>working in another field, so I did a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a career change. However, this role that I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>right now isn't giving me the full experience that I'm seeking,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I've done all the things of getting my

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<v Speaker 2>resume redone, getting my resume looked over, having my LinkedIn optimize,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, using LinkedIn to connect with people to network. However,

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<v Speaker 2>it just seems to me that LinkedIn is not really

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<v Speaker 2>doing what I really needed to. I've been seeking being

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<v Speaker 2>a full time role for a little over a year now,

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<v Speaker 2>and by LinkedIn not doing what I needed to, I

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<v Speaker 2>just mean that it's not been able to help me

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<v Speaker 2>secure a full time role, and so I'm seeking knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>on are there other opportunities outside of LinkedIn that I

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<v Speaker 2>can do, like on a frequent basis, to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to connect with people in the field that I'm working in,

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<v Speaker 2>because it seems that LinkedIn is just not enough and

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<v Speaker 2>I need to be able to connect with people on

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<v Speaker 2>a more personal level because the Internet is just is

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<v Speaker 2>just not enough for me. So I would love for

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<v Speaker 2>you to give me some advice on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, all right, Kevan, ye, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to come for my girl? LinkedIn? Like side,

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<v Speaker 1>she not enough for you, She's not giving what she

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<v Speaker 1>needs to give.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I thought of LinkedIn as like the holy Grail

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<v Speaker 2>at but.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'm just using it wrong or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not using it enough. I'm on there every day,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't know. It's just not seeming to be

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<v Speaker 2>something that's working for me specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that. I mean, the thing is like LinkedIn

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the tools and your toolkit. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>your resume, and I'm actually, I'm actually really I'm not really,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm I guess I'm happy to hear that you're

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<v Speaker 1>tinkering more with LinkedIn than with your resume, because LinkedIn

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<v Speaker 1>is just sort of what's more visible to recruiters and

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<v Speaker 1>people who can give you opportunities. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>people spend a lot of time obsessing over like the

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<v Speaker 1>piece of paper, you know, on their resume versus actually

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<v Speaker 1>being active on LinkedIn. So you've ticked two big boxes

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<v Speaker 1>and by the time someone has ticked the box up,

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<v Speaker 1>I got my resume and I'm active. Excuse me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>active on LinkedIn and I've optimized my LinkedIn. Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for the next step, which you've identified. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>that LinkedIn is not giving what it needs to give entirely,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that it doesn't. It's not always enough to just

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<v Speaker 1>focus on LinkedIn. The human element is essential. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I like about your question is that you're ready and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I think I need to like talk to

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<v Speaker 1>people and get more involved with my network. Yes, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's not like always such a straightforward, you know option

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<v Speaker 1>for like actually getting out there and networking. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's even a scary word and an ichy word

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<v Speaker 1>for people, but basically forming relationships and strengthening relationships with

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<v Speaker 1>people you know in your industry. So with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>I want more specifics, like what kind of work do

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<v Speaker 1>you actually do and what sort of opportunity are you

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<v Speaker 1>looking for?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I can give you a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>back and then the now and then what I'm seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>For the future.

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<v Speaker 2>So my past is I have a past of mental

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<v Speaker 2>health profession and I was a therapist specifically, and so

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<v Speaker 2>building relationships is one of my strong suits and also

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<v Speaker 2>working with systems. However, during the pandemic, a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>things happened. The pandemic obviously George Floyd and then Breonna

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor wid Are also murdered.

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<v Speaker 3>As a mental health professional at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very hard, very hard for people to receive

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<v Speaker 2>services and very hard for people to give services as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I became really burnt out before I even

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<v Speaker 2>left school. I decided I didn't want to do therapy anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I love the system aspect. So I found

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<v Speaker 2>project management and that's what I do now. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a project manager for a marketing and branding firm right now. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I am a contractor. I am the first project manager.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of the knowledge that I have is

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<v Speaker 2>from my own research inside my work and also outside

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<v Speaker 2>of it as well. So there's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a lack of boundaries there as well, because essentially I'm

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<v Speaker 2>teaching myself as well as the team what.

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<v Speaker 3>Project management can look like.

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<v Speaker 2>However, we know that we need someone to almost like

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<v Speaker 2>mentor us and guide us, give us some type of

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<v Speaker 2>experience and all of the things that we do.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's where I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I love my job, however, I just need more a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more guidance from someone else, so maybe working

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<v Speaker 2>under someone rather than being the senior.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So you have essentially like started to pivot

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<v Speaker 1>into an entirely new field. And what I like about

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<v Speaker 1>it is you made that happen for yourself and now

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<v Speaker 1>you're realizing you like it. You want to stay in

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<v Speaker 1>this project management situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Rightly awesome. So how did you get the job that

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<v Speaker 1>you have?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a contract position, you said, so like part time?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, essentially it is. I got the position because

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<v Speaker 2>I know who I work for. Got So another barrier

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<v Speaker 2>for me is actually because I moved here for school,

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<v Speaker 2>my contacts are all mental health professional contexts. So a

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<v Speaker 2>part of using LinkedIn is finding people and also introducing

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<v Speaker 2>myself to essentially a whole pool of people that I

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<v Speaker 2>just generally don't know. So I'm the sole person that

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<v Speaker 2>I guess responsible without with with with minimal health.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you, let me get I'm gonna look at

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<v Speaker 1>your LinkedIn profile. Can you send me a link? You

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<v Speaker 1>can put it in the chat right here. So looking

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<v Speaker 1>at your LinkedIn profile and I'm seeing some great stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You have branded yourself as a project manager. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a great little headline under your picture. It's CSM. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that related to mental health or to project management?

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<v Speaker 3>Certified scrum Master? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that I need. Yeah, what a weird word

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<v Speaker 1>scrum master. Anyway, you have your open to work signal

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<v Speaker 1>on your picture is on point.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You have done everything right. So what I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to do. What I'm hearing is like, Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>came from a mental health background. In your contacts are

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<v Speaker 1>in the mental health world. I don't know that that

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<v Speaker 1>should hold you back as a hindrance. It's almost like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the companies they potentially work for, if they work for

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<v Speaker 1>a practice, you know, or some sort of institution, they

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<v Speaker 1>may have open project manager roles for you to join.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I wouldn't discount your existing network and

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<v Speaker 1>I would definitely like stay in touch. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask you, have you told them that you're

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<v Speaker 1>pivoting into project management and you may even need to

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<v Speaker 1>explain to them what it is, because they may not

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<v Speaker 1>like they may not know how to help you. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you say, for example, like who would be the

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<v Speaker 1>person at their company for them to reach out to

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<v Speaker 1>to find out if there's any openings or opportunities, if

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<v Speaker 1>you can direct them in that way, or if you

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<v Speaker 1>even know you know, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, I've had some professional professors reach out to me,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as some colleagues who I actually do know

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<v Speaker 2>some people who have pivoted from mental health to project management.

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<v Speaker 2>I was introduced by some friends who who figured it

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<v Speaker 2>out themselves and then they kind of explained it to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, that makes sense. So I

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<v Speaker 2>have reached out to some people, it's just not enough.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess it's like it's like yes, a and

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<v Speaker 2>like those things do work, but then sometimes they just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>So and I've been without work for so long, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm at my wits end, and it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>I almost need to be introduced to someone like the

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<v Speaker 3>exact hiring manager and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the I need the process to be all of

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<v Speaker 2>like one week because like even like going to networking things,

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<v Speaker 2>those things, those events are few and far in between.

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<v Speaker 3>So if I'm going to an event like every three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a three week waiting period that I still don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a job.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand well when you say that you've been without

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<v Speaker 1>a job. The job that you have now, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you're you are getting paid, right? Is it full time

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<v Speaker 1>or part time?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just is it enough to keep you afloat?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, financially?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not. Yeah, and that ends me.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise you have other work that you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I do things like Uber east Door Dash Uber,

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<v Speaker 2>and then my mom definitely helps me and is there

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 3>But then another thing of like the whole, like I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>On a timeline, the quote unquote timeline that we build

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<v Speaker 2>for ourselves. I feel I'm about to be twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>and they are just responsibilities.

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<v Speaker 3>I should be.

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<v Speaker 1>The play for oh, don't should yourself to death. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna joke and be like, you're right, you really are.

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<v Speaker 1>You're almost past your due date, past your exportation date,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're not don't should yourself to death. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do feel that sense of urgency and like you have

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<v Speaker 1>a right to feel impatient, because I mean, I can

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<v Speaker 1>see from your LinkedIn that it's not like you are

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<v Speaker 1>bright like bright eyed bushy tailed right out of college.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like you're not twenty one to twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>You have some professional experience. The thing is like, you

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<v Speaker 1>have been doing the work that you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing for a year now, a year and three months.

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<v Speaker 1>According to LinkedIn, that's sometimes the hard part that people

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<v Speaker 1>want to skip over. But like getting the experience in

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that you want to pivot into is almost

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<v Speaker 1>a hard hard part. Like, I think you've done the

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<v Speaker 1>hard part. You got a role doing the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be doing. Now it's about the next

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<v Speaker 1>step and the next level up. Okay, So I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to feel good about that because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching I do is often with people who are

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to pivot, but they're just like, wait, how do

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<v Speaker 1>I get an opportunity? You know, where do I find it?

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<v Speaker 1>So you've worked your sources, you've gotten your foot in

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<v Speaker 1>the door. Now the networking event thing, I get that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. One thing that you could be doing is

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<v Speaker 1>don't wait for those you know, networking events that come

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<v Speaker 1>every once into blue moon. Reach out to the event

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<v Speaker 1>organizers and just say, hey, I'm interested in this event. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love you know, if you can hop on

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<v Speaker 1>like a ten minute phone call. I am. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a crunch time right now where I have

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<v Speaker 1>been working as a contractor, and just be honest and

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<v Speaker 1>say I can't wait three weeks. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to someone right now and connect with them in advance.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to go by their timeline or by

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<v Speaker 1>their rules in that sense. Does that make sense right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? It absolutely does make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the type of advice I was looking for,

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<v Speaker 2>because sometimes we do kind of run out of options

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like I've been having my own thoughts and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm not even gonna lie. LinkedIn can be very

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<v Speaker 2>depressing sometimes, I know it because it's on the one hand,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the people who are getting laid off and

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<v Speaker 2>looking for work, and then on the other hand you

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<v Speaker 2>have the person who is getting a new job and

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<v Speaker 2>they are getting promoted.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I'm somewhere in between that where I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>where do I go? Where do I fall?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you're on your own path. That's why it

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<v Speaker 1>feels lonely there. You're just we're all on our own roads.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I think that the mindset is so

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<v Speaker 1>important when it comes to like this is a crossroads

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<v Speaker 1>in your career. It's kind of it's meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>fraud and a little stressful. It's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a forever state though, like I can talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>and just be like, you have so much going for you.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be the beginning of a new chapter, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that anticipation of like, when is it my turn?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, ba fam you are listening to the ba

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<v Speaker 1>qa A. We are going to take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>and be right back with more of your questions and

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<v Speaker 1>our answers. Okay va faan, we are back answering more

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<v Speaker 1>of your questions for the baqa Let's go. I would

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<v Speaker 1>actually I would prescribe you a little LinkedIn diet, a

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<v Speaker 1>little LinkedIn break. Maybe you're on there too much and

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<v Speaker 1>instead like start reaching out if you haven't and making

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<v Speaker 1>like some real plans to connect with humans. So we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the networking events that you have been thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about going to, finding the organizers. I did this myself recently,

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<v Speaker 1>Like last week, I spoke at a conference. I live

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, and there's this big working women's like

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<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurship conference that I saw in advertisement for and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, that's in March. It was in March

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<v Speaker 1>and thinks it was like early February at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'd love to speak there. And

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<v Speaker 1>typically I think the advice would be go to the

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<v Speaker 1>conference so you know, see what it's like, and then

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<v Speaker 1>pitch yourself as a speaker for next year. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't really got time to wait. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do this live. I want to do this

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<v Speaker 1>workshop that I've been working on live. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>went and found the organizers and blew up. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>blow up their DMS, but I just tracked them down. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy enough to find people's I found them on LinkedIn,

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<v Speaker 1>I found their ig page, sent them a little DMS

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<v Speaker 1>and a little follow up, found their email address, sent

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<v Speaker 1>a little email there. Polite, polite, polite, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>end up having to wait another year. They got me

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<v Speaker 1>on the speaker's list based on my pitch, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in February. They put me on the roster, and I'm like, sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>So sometimes that you want to you just need to

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<v Speaker 1>like put yourself at the front of the line and

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<v Speaker 1>feel confident in doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, that makes a lot of sense, especially like

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<v Speaker 2>what you're saying a lot of encouragement because the job

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<v Speaker 2>seeking journey can be very disheartening. It can take blows

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<v Speaker 2>at your self esteem a lot. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>it is reminding myself that I am worthy of these positions,

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<v Speaker 2>even yeah, even against the injections that I gave.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, And I mean you made a good point

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<v Speaker 1>about like the weird dichotomy of like there is there

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<v Speaker 1>are excuse me, in some sectors there are layoffs happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Meta just announced another ten thousand people are

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<v Speaker 1>getting laid off. They already laid off ten thousand, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's just massive and it can feel like but that

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<v Speaker 1>also can affect the mood of hiring across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not a situation where it's like what else

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<v Speaker 1>can I be doing? I think you're doing everything right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just about kind of riding this little dip. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a situation where maybe hiring managers are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be more like a little more cautious, like a

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<v Speaker 1>little less quick to hire, which is bad. Is not

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to hear when you're just at this

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<v Speaker 1>point where you're ready for your next opportunity. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>at least you have to understand that there are some

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<v Speaker 1>things out of your control that could be also contributing

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<v Speaker 1>to why nothing has really stuck yet. Okay, so how

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<v Speaker 1>else can you put you in a space where you

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<v Speaker 1>can meet people who need a PM, need project management?

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<v Speaker 1>What type of project management for those who may don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know much about the space or just heard about

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<v Speaker 1>scrum master and all that, what type of like and

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<v Speaker 1>what type of like day to day tasks are you

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<v Speaker 1>really good at? You know, at the place where you

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<v Speaker 1>are now, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely good.

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<v Speaker 2>So overall, if you don't know what a project manager is,

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<v Speaker 2>not you the audience. It's basically the accountability partner for

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<v Speaker 2>the team. So along with having CRM tools, lanners, calendars,

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<v Speaker 2>those type of things, there's a person who's basically like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to be doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, we have a project that the do date is coming.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have little small goes, little small tests that

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do to be meet big milestones, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of those things can slip through the cracks because

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many people involved in the in the process

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<v Speaker 2>of accomplishing one thing. And so I'm the I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>person who's basically the string that holds everyone together and

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<v Speaker 2>reminding everyone, hey, you don't do this that impacts this

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<v Speaker 2>other person a job, and reminding everyone to be team

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<v Speaker 2>players and just holding people accountable. So I think my

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<v Speaker 2>strong suit, like I said earlier, is definitely relationship building

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<v Speaker 2>because along with reminding people, reminding can be a thin

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<v Speaker 2>line of reminding. And what is the word I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>for when you're micromanaging oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Your team as yeah, yeah, you're right, yeah, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you keep ale motivated to get stuff done and and

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<v Speaker 1>like brank in on them without making them feel micromanaged

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<v Speaker 1>or watched right?

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<v Speaker 2>And then so definitely the relationship building conflict management because

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<v Speaker 2>everyone doesn't always work well together, especially when you're working

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<v Speaker 2>with people who are normally a part of different teams

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<v Speaker 2>so they're not your everyday person.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to stop you there because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you as I'm listening to you, and what

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<v Speaker 1>I love about this conversation is like the light starts

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<v Speaker 1>to come on when I start to hear you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about your strengths. Change management seems like a really excellent

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for you. So beyond just like project management, I'm wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for ways when I'm listening to you to

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<v Speaker 1>niche you down into like specialty, because what can make

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<v Speaker 1>you unique? And you're exactly right, like talking about your

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<v Speaker 1>mental health background and your relationships and even you know,

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<v Speaker 1>understanding your emotional EQ and like how you're able to

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<v Speaker 1>be a better project manager because you can you can

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<v Speaker 1>deal with personalities and understand like the psychology behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what change management teams really are, you know, tasked

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<v Speaker 1>with Are you familiar with that line of work?

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<v Speaker 3>Slightly? Yes, I've seen those within like my job search, and.

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<v Speaker 2>What you just did is specifically why I've been looking

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<v Speaker 2>for not only people to network with, but mentorship because

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<v Speaker 2>going to school for something else you learn all of

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<v Speaker 2>the nuances around it, but finding out things on your own,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm basically on LinkedIn YouTube university because I'm finding out

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<v Speaker 2>all of the things without someone actually teaching me those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so having someone.

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<v Speaker 2>There as like a guide, that's kind of what I

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<v Speaker 2>meant by working under someone because they know a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more about the field than I do. So sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you're searching for something that you don't even.

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<v Speaker 1>Know no exactly, and how do you know what's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>and how do you even know what lines of work

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<v Speaker 1>are available to you if you're not just talking. So

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<v Speaker 1>even just having this conversation, I'm glad that this has

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<v Speaker 1>you know, opened up potentially a new door because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that makes so much sense. You know, change

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<v Speaker 1>management teams, they are you know, often tasked with, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to overhaul the payroll system, we want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in a new we're going to move people to

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<v Speaker 1>a new office, or have these new policies in place.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's you know, it's a project to manage the

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<v Speaker 1>project that needs to get done, but it's also about okay, now,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we roll out the news. How do we

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<v Speaker 1>make sure people are excited about it and they don't

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<v Speaker 1>get stressed about it. That's an excellent I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, And like for you, I think it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>important not to be in a room with other project

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<v Speaker 1>managers or other you know, people doing exactly what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>but finding networking opportunities of professionals who, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>are decision makers, the hiring managers, the professionals who understand

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<v Speaker 1>where someone like you could fit into their organization. So

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<v Speaker 1>even in Atlanta, I mean, Atlanta is such a booming,

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<v Speaker 1>you know economy for businesses and small businesses, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>where are they hanging out? You know, are there organizations

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<v Speaker 1>like what is it called urban the Urban League? Urban

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<v Speaker 1>League is one there are I'm sure there's a thriving

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<v Speaker 1>you know, SBA, a chamber of commerce that you could

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look to for events and not even to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the events, but to find names. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we find the names, find the email addresses, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>look up on LinkedIn and find people who have the

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<v Speaker 1>titles of jobs that you want and just be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an advocate for yourself, you know, informing those connections. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you'll they'll be impressed by you taking

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<v Speaker 1>your mental health background and understanding how there's that bridge

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<v Speaker 1>into project management and even more so indepodentially change management.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I could also see a path for you

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<v Speaker 1>in HR, which sometimes is like closely aligned with or

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<v Speaker 1>even does some of the work of change management people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in going into that kind of space too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's also an opportunity for you. I wish you

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<v Speaker 1>were a member of my coaching community. I know I

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<v Speaker 1>have people in my community who work in exactly these fields.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll definitely go through the list of Mandy money

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<v Speaker 1>makers and see if I can connect you with anyone

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<v Speaker 1>because I appreciate that. Yeah, of course that's what happens

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<v Speaker 1>on you met a new human. If I'm in a

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<v Speaker 1>position to support you, I want to do that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just feel like you need like a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a reset. You know, this sucks, it's taken

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, but your opportunity is around the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>You just got to like feel that way and just

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<v Speaker 1>keep pushing.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that good feel good.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we just need a little bit of boost to like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I do every day. You're so not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's one of the reasons I found in

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<v Speaker 1>my career coaching practice is because I was talking to women,

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<v Speaker 1>especially women of color during the pandemic, who were wanting

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<v Speaker 1>something new, and it's isolating because the Internet is nice

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<v Speaker 1>and there's all these resources, and like you said, there's

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube and LinkedIn and articles on what to do and

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<v Speaker 1>how to do a job search, but it can feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're the only one. And then you graduate with

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<v Speaker 1>people and like they're off doing their thing, and you

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<v Speaker 1>get on LinkedIn and it seems like people got stuff

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<v Speaker 1>going on, and it's really isolating if you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>that community of people that you can, you know, align

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<v Speaker 1>yourself with and feel like you're in the trenches together,

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<v Speaker 1>all sort of striving towards something better. So as much

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<v Speaker 1>as you can find community in a place where you

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<v Speaker 1>can feel supported, I would say that's going to help

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<v Speaker 1>you stave off this anxiety, this you know, tick tic

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<v Speaker 1>tick in your head that's telling you that you should have,

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<v Speaker 1>should have, should have, should have, should have. We got

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<v Speaker 1>to ban that where it should from the from.

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<v Speaker 3>The vocab, I've heard that, I'm trying, You're.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying, You're where you need to be. And and again like,

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<v Speaker 1>do not discount you have a year under your belt

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<v Speaker 1>of project management experience. They don't got to know what's

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<v Speaker 1>part time. They don't got to know all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you wish you had that you don't have, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a mentor, and blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Just sell it, you know, tell that story, Tell it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Kivanya, thank you so much for letting me

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<v Speaker 1>pour into you a little bit and talk your head off,

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<v Speaker 1>and please keep me posted because I do get quite

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<v Speaker 1>invested with our BA qah listeners. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know more about your journey. Okay, so stay in touch.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, absolutely, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome. All right. I want to say thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much to Kivanya for joining us on the VA.

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