1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. Wednesday edition of the Klay, Travis and 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show kicks off right now. We got a 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: lot of news racked and stacked. We're gonna make it 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: all make sense, so come in close for a big 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: radio hug. Much to discuss. We got the Eric Adams 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: statement about illegals in New York City and how he 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: feels about them. Is this a turning of the tide 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: for the Big Apple when it comes to the migrant 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: aka illegal alien problem. I think that's something that we're 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: going to spend a little bit of time on. There's 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: an opportunity here for the mayor of America's largest city 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: to really step into the mandate of making New York 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: safe again, which would in fact be a huge step 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: toward making New York great again. And given what the 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Feds have done to him there for speaking out about 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: migrants in the first place, I don't know. Maybe Mayor 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: Eric Adams should have a little hour outreach to the 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: incoming president. One thing about Trump, you got to give 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: him credit for. If you're willing to do the job, 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: if you're willing to be maga, there's always room on 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: the Trump train. There's always room for allies. In fact, 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: I think one of Trump's favorite things is to flip 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: opponents to allies. Now, maybe getting ahead of ourselves, Eric 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: Adams might put out a statement tomorrow about how awful 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: Trump is. Who knows, but interesting situation about the migrants 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: in New York City. You've also got oh boy, the 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: dea pick. Chad Cronister has stepped out of the mix, Clay, 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: and I can get into some of why that happened. 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: The jury has the Daniel Penny trial also in New 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: York City. We'll bring you any updates on that we 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: could get, right, Clay, We could get a verity verdict 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: at any point. Yeah, it could happen while we're on 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: the air, so we'll be focused in on that one. 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: We've got. Hey, I don't know, this is interesting to 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: us in the media because it's been a long time coming. 36 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: ABC News staffers working in near decrepit building with no 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: Wi Fi, no heat as Good Morning America ratings tank. 38 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: I just think that's interesting, Clay, because it's not only 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: the more left wing MSNBC right, like the openly partisan 40 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: outlets that are getting hit now. It's like morning shows 41 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: where one minute they're doing news, the next minute, they're like, 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: here's the best way to make a summer Salid like 43 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: they're getting hit two. I think there's a big change 44 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: in the media that's going on right now. There's even more. 45 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: The judge in the Hunter Biden case, which now is 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: not a case anymore because the pardon had some scathing 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: words about Biden's lie in the part in Biden fell 48 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: asleep in Africa. He's an Angola giving away taxpayer dollars. 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: And we've also got Clay's gonna dive into this in 50 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: the next hour. In Tennessee, the State of Tennessee in 51 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: a lawsuit with the Biden administration over the issue of 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: transsurgery for min and a ban on transferreders in Tennessee 53 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: Supreme Court heard those oral arguments this morning. Clay lawyer 54 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: Clay going to step in and tell us what he 55 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: thinks on that one. Clay can I gotta say, you know, 56 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: the the biggest to the two biggest missions of the 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Trump administration, I think quite clearly are the border and 58 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: the bureaucracy, right or you know, illegals and the deep state. 59 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: Different ways you can say the same thing, Mayor Adams. 60 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: I don't take this as a minor thing. I think 61 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: this is an interesting place to go. I think it's 62 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: something of outreach to the incoming administration too. This is 63 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: cut twelve. He's just saying I'm deporting criminals going forward, 64 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: or I'm gonna help ice, and you can quote cancel me. 65 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: If you've got a problem with that, play it. 66 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: I want you to all go back and google Hillary 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: Clinton and Barack Obama. Google what they said about those 68 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: who could make crimes in our city and what they 69 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: say in our country. They said, those who commit crimes 70 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: need to get out right away. 71 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: That was their position. 72 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: So this is not a new position, you know, because 73 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: in the state of the in the era of cancel culture, 74 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: no one is afraid to be honest about the truth. Well, 75 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: cancel me, because I'm going to protect the people of 76 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: the city. And if you come into this country, in 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: this city and think you're going to harm innocent New 78 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: Yorkers and innocent migrans and asylum seekerts, this is not 79 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: the mayor you want to be in the city under. 80 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: All right, now, he's still with the asylum seekerts who 81 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: don't commit crimes. I caught that point at the end. 82 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: But Clay, it has been a huge fight with Democrats 83 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: to even get them to agree that illegals like the 84 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: one who went on to rape and murder Lake and 85 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: Riley should be deported with the help of local and 86 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: state police. Yeah. 87 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: Look, and I think Mayor Adams is right on this. 88 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: And this is why I said, A part of me 89 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: thinks that Trump should come in and just immediately pardon 90 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: Eric Adams as part of his decision to pardon the 91 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: jan six guys. And I remember I said, and a 92 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 3: lot of people out there got upset. You had, I 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: think had the same take that it would not be 94 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: a bad move for Trump to also pardon Hunter Biden. 95 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: I had the same take as you. I wasn't upset 96 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: by the take. 97 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: Yes, correct, No, yes, you and I had the same take. 98 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 3: Many of our listeners out there were. But to me, 99 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: it's a clear the decks move. Hey, we're turning the 100 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: page to steal a line from Kamala Harris on the 101 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: Law Fair that became very commonplace associated with everything surrounding 102 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: the Biden team. And I think Trump's got an ally 103 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: in Eric Adams when it comes to issues of migrants 104 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: illegally taking over. 105 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: The city of New York. Buck for you, I'm flying 106 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: up to New York. 107 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: I'm ducking out the third hour because I'm going to 108 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 3: Israel for the show on Thursday evening. 109 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: That's just a little bit of background. 110 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: They banned Airbnb in New York City, so basically you 111 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: can't put your home on Airbnb. 112 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: They also have I think. 113 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 3: It's over ten percent of all hotel rooms right now 114 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: are taken by. 115 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty, it's twenty. 116 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty percent of New York City hotel rooms are 117 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 3: taken over by by people there. 118 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: And they live there. They're not there for a night 119 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: while they're being processed to the facility or something. They 120 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: live there. 121 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 3: You can't get a hotel room now in New York 122 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: City right now for less than like five hundred bucks 123 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 3: if you want to be anywhere around Midtown. Some of 124 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: the rooms are thousand dollars a night. Why do I 125 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 3: bring that up because I'm traveling up and having to 126 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: stay there right now. New York City is broken in 127 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: many ways. I mean, you see the assassination. Yes, I 128 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: was gonna say, right, I'm a major hotel. It appears 129 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 3: there was a gangland style hit on a prominent Bites executive. 130 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: Clay outside of a hotel. It's outside of our New 131 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: York City office. That's where I'll be doing the show 132 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: to one. You'll be doing the show right in the 133 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: vicinity of I mean people, remember, you know, in Midtown, 134 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: it's not hard to find where people are. It's not 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: some big secret, right, you can google these things. You're 136 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: talking about. A stone's throwaway from that assassination is where 137 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: you're going to be doing the radio show tomorrow. My 138 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: point being that is the heart of New York City. 139 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: That is the absolute center of New York, the business district, 140 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Midtown near it's right near Rockefeller Center, it's right near 141 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: Central Park. I mean, it's and it's just a brazen 142 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: assassination attempt. I saw some clips from the NYPD conference 143 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: on it, and it looks like this. This is I mean, 144 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: it's a pro or professional hit. The guy had to 145 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: clear a malfunction his weapon quickly, multiple shots from behind, 146 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: jumped on an e bike, had his face and head 147 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: and everything covered. I mean, this was not like you know, 148 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: at least it doesn't strike me as like a rage 149 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: filled you know, lover's quarrel or some kind of nonsense. 150 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: This is a This looks like a professional hit. So 151 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: that's another thing. The City of New York is looking 152 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: at it right now. They've got to just get the 153 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: crime issue in general down there. There was recently a 154 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: broad daylight two armed men carjacking clay on eighty third 155 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: in Broadway again, eighty third and Broadway. You can't get 156 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: an apartment on eighty third and Broadway. You can't get 157 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: a studio for less than a million bucks. I mean, 158 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: this is this is fancy, high end parts of Gotham, 159 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: you know, of America's grandest city, and it's just too much. 160 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: People are waking up to this. New York did trend 161 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: toward Trump, not enough, unfortunately, but New York State trended 162 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: toward Trump in this last election. And the issue of 163 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: the of migrants in New York City. I think this 164 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: played a big role in the national election. I think 165 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: it shows how clear Trump's mandate is. And I believe 166 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: there's a real opportunity here for Eric Adams to say, look, 167 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: I don't agree with Trump on a lot, but I'll 168 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: work with his administration on making sure that criminal illegals 169 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: are deported as expeditiously as possible. That's common ground that 170 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: I think would would go over very well. On both sides. 171 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: We'll see if he's also they're prosecuting him, right, so 172 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: there's that his team has betrayed him. 173 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I just to your point, new York City, 174 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: Trump got more votes than any Republican since nineteen eighty eight. 175 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: So that's a pretty seismic change. And the votes that 176 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: he was getting were overwhelmingly coming from non traditional Republican areas. 177 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: Remember one of the districts that moved the most in 178 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: Trump's direction was AOC's. And you know, it's kind of 179 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: staggering when you consider that there's talk, oh, AOC may 180 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 3: run for president in twenty twenty eight, and I actually 181 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: think she will, and we'll see how that plays going forward. 182 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: I think that's her next move. She's not going to 183 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: run for governor or Senate in New York. I think 184 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: she feels like she has a big enough platform now 185 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: that she can make a run for president of the 186 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: United States. But so you got chaos in New York, 187 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: you've also got right now, Pete hegset Buck under a 188 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: level of attack that is higher, I think right now 189 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: than what they did with Matt Gates. I think they 190 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: felt like Matt Gates never had the support and so 191 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: he never really got you agree with this, and there 192 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: was never really an aggressive go after Matt Gates media 193 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: campaign because I think they kind of knew the votes 194 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 3: weren't there and they never needed to unleash the hounds, 195 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: so to speak. You and I need to weigh in 196 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 3: on some of this stuff because the amount of stories 197 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: that are coming out just going after Pete Hegset for everything. 198 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: NBC News has a monster story where they basically accused 199 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: him of being a drunk who was unable to do 200 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 3: television and done, You've worked with Pete. I've worked with Pete. 201 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: I mean this is something we can speak of a 202 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: direct personal knowledge. The nastiness of this campaign that they 203 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: have unleashed against Pete hegseth is is cab Brett Kavanall. 204 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: Like they called my wife on her personal cell phone. 205 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: You could say it. I didn't want to. I didn't 206 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: want to say it, but yeah, no, I know, I'll 207 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: say it. They called my wife on her personal cell 208 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: phone looking for dirt on our friend Pete and Carrie's Carrie, 209 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: she doesn't talk to regime media got a click right away. 210 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: But point here being, they are going all out to 211 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: do whatever they can uh, to destroy him. I think 212 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: with Matt Gates, Clay. Part of it was the initial 213 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: Gates stuff was well wait till wait till the set 214 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's going to have his say before the Senate. 215 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot of new information. It was all known. 216 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: They've been on a dig up everything campaign against against Pete. Right. 217 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: They also were trying to get the report out against 218 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: Matt Gates. That was going to be the whole thing. 219 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: So they were lobbying to get the report out. With Pete. 220 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: They've been you know, they're going back to an investigative 221 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: reporting and trying to do oppo research on him, you know, 222 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: back to high school. I'm sure, back to you know, 223 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: when he was getting his first boy Scout ribbons or whatever. 224 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're going all out. I was actually 225 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: having a call with the buddy the other day. 226 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 3: We were talking yesterday about the heagset thing, and I'm like, 227 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: I don't know that we've seen anything of this measure 228 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: and magnitude, because I I don't think Pete Hegseth is 229 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: an unknown dude. I mean, he's on television all the 230 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: time for Fox News. I'm stunned by how threatened they 231 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: are by him to the extent that they've come after 232 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: him with everything they've got. What I'm seeing is that 233 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: the storyline is that Trump is waffling, and I think 234 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: they're trying to use that storyline, meaning the media is 235 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 3: saying it that Trump is waffling about the Hegset appointment, 236 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: so that then it becomes it's like a self fulfilling prophecy, right, 237 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: it's oh, Trump's waffling, And then that gets back to 238 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: Trump and people start to say, well, you know, maybe 239 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: this I think they're trying to create cracks in this. 240 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, the the inner circle of decision 241 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: making on this is very tight. 242 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: Let's come back. Let let's talk about this a little 243 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: but more, shall Weah, Let's get into this and have 244 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: more of a discussion about it, because, uh, you've got 245 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: three names in the mix right now for d O 246 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: D chief. Three names our friend Pete Hegseeth, the fantastic 247 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis, and our friend Bridge Colby, who's brilliant. These 248 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: are the three names that are being reported as possible 249 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: secretary of Defense. Let's come back, and also, if anybody 250 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: has a particularly strong opinion on that, I want to 251 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: know what you think because to me, you know, this 252 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: is like if I knew who played sports more, I'd 253 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: start saying great sports people. But you know, this is 254 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: like Jerald pick between. This is like picking between yeah, pickles. 255 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: This is like picking between Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen and 256 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: and well, let's just say it's like picking between Patrick 257 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Josh Allen clearly the two best quarterbacks in 258 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: the end. Great great people for the job that I 259 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: think would get it done. But if you have strong 260 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: opinions on it, I definitely want I definitely want to 261 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: hear it. So we'll get into that. Look, I want to. 262 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: Tell you the holidays prime time for cyber hackers. All 263 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: that can sume er data and credit card info you 264 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: enter on websites, buying gifts, easy pickings. The Grinch will 265 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: still a lot more than Christmas. If you're not protected. 266 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 3: That's why you need LifeLock, the best online protection. Sign 267 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: up today if you haven't already. 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There are, 286 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: as Buck just laid out reports that Trump is considering 287 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: alternative choices. Pete Hegsex is on Capitol Hill right now. 288 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: We know Pete well, we've had him on this show 289 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: a lot, We've worked with him. We can talk maybe 290 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: in the bottom half of this hour about some of 291 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: these attacks and just how nasty they are, particularly the 292 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: ones that involve anonymous sources. And I just I've never 293 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: been an anonymous story for any story ever. I certainly 294 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: have never been an anonymous story. 295 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: Quote. 296 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: If you agree with me or disagree with me, I'm 297 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: man enough to at least say it publicly. I just 298 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: don't run and hide and try to tack people from 299 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: behind and behind closed doors and without using your name. 300 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: I don't think anonymous sources should be allowed. But it's 301 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: a sign of how nasty it is that the New 302 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: York Times used a seven year old email that Pete 303 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: Hegseth's mom sent to him, and that is wild just 304 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: in the context of somebody close to them obviously had 305 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: to leak that email to the New York Times, but 306 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: she went on Fox and Friends, which is the show 307 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: that Pete Hegseth hosts on the weekend. She went on 308 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: Fox and Friends to say, Hey, my son's a really 309 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: good guy, and respond to that email. 310 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 311 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: This is a pretty extraordinary thing that was on Fox 312 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: News this morning. Pete Hegset's mom, Penelope, I. 313 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: Want people to look at Pete, judge people or understand 314 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: him for who he is today and to disregard the 315 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: media that was seven years ago, and most of it 316 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 4: is misinformation. And the way they threaten you, I think 317 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: is very hurtful. And the person leaked it, I don't 318 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: know who that is, and I don't think I will 319 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: need to. But Pete is a new person. He's redeemed, forgiven, changed. 320 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: I think we all are after seven years. I believe 321 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 4: he's a man for the job. I think being a 322 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: TV news host I think prepares you for most things. 323 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 4: In a position like this, you're a good communicator, you 324 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 4: have to think on your feet, you take charge. So 325 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: I think everybody should do a year with Fox. 326 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: So mom with the solid endorsement of the past job 327 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: for the new job. But I don't think there's a 328 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: discounting element there. But I can't remember ever seeing anything 329 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: like this. Buck somebody's mom who has been attacked based 330 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 3: on an email that she sent seven years ago, having 331 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 3: to go on broadcast television to actually say, hey, my 332 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: son's a really good guy and he deserves this job. 333 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not impartial here. Clan are both friends of Pete, 334 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: so just to be clear about that. And I think 335 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: he do a really good job. And the more they 336 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: hate Pete. 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All right, welcome back in 358 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: to Clay, and we're talking about some big jobs that 359 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: are still in the mix here and some things, some pieces, 360 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: if you will, individuals who are going to be involved 361 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: in this next Trump administration. There's a lot of stuff 362 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: going on here. First of all, I saw that the 363 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: Trump team has now agreed to FBI background checks. Clay, 364 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: you see this, Yeah, let's just put this out there. 365 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: Who is the squishiest Republican senator? There are a couple 366 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: of people that come to mind. I mean, who is 367 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: the most likely to be pushed around and to bail 368 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: because of pressure. Susan Collins high in the list. Now, 369 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: Susan Collins might be the best center we can get 370 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: out of Maine given the electoral realities of that state. 371 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: So we shouldn't forget that, right, People are like, why 372 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: don't we have somebody who's maga in Maine? Because it's Maine. 373 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: You know, this is the Trump lost Maine by seven points, 374 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: so it's not you're not gonna get I mean Susan 375 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: Collins might be the only Republican who can win in 376 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 3: Maine now now at least are Kowski in Alaska. I 377 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: think that's a fair question. 378 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little you know, we've got I think 379 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: we're on We're on a station in Anchorage, and I 380 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: love when we get our Anchorage people to reach out. 381 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: It just shows you the power of radio. Like you 382 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: look on a map, Anchorage is so far away. It's amazing. 383 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: But we've got I love it. I've actually been beautiful. 384 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: Alaska is one of the most beautiful places in the world. 385 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: Side note for anybody I've never been, I'm going to go. 386 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: I cannot wait. We love all of our listeners in Alaska. 387 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: I heard it spectacular. I mean the natural beauty of Alaska. 388 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: If you're into the cold stuff at rivals, I think 389 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world. All right, But here's Susan Collins 390 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: going back to Maine, also cold and very nice. Here's 391 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: Susan Collins on the headset stuff. This is cut five. 392 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: Play it. 393 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 5: As I repeatedly said to you, I believe that we 394 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 5: need an FBI background check to evaluate the allegations. We 395 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 5: need to have the normal committee process of questionnaires, and 396 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 5: the question is about his background, and we also need 397 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 5: to have a public career. 398 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: So you know, this is this is the challenge, this 399 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: is the problem. Would would pe be a great choice 400 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: in this role? I think so is peaking to get confirmed. 401 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: That's an open question, and I think you could take 402 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: different sides of it. I can tell you this based 403 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: on what's come out. That's a greed deal. I'm not, 404 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: by the way, I do not believe the sexual assault 405 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: allegation against him. I don't believe it. No, no charges 406 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: were brought, and I've looked at the facts, and you know, 407 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: our friend Megan Kelly did a whole deep dive on 408 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: her show into them. Carrie listened to it, and I 409 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: don't believe the uh. I don't believe that that's what's 410 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: what went on there. I will say Clay, coming from 411 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: a national security world, infidelity and drinking are considered problems 412 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: for security clearance. People can say that that's nonsense. They 413 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: can say they don't agree with that. But if you're 414 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: going to go through the normal clearance process and you've 415 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: had multiple marriages, blow up guys from special operations community, 416 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: correct me if I am wrong. It is also a 417 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: problem within special operations in UCMJ. It's actually illegal under 418 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: UCMJ at a cheat on a spouse. Now, you can 419 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: push all of that stuff aside. And Pete and I 420 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: and you and Pete, we're all friends. I like Pete. 421 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: I think you do a really good job. How do 422 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: you convince Susan Collins? How do you convince Murkowski? I'm 423 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: not saying people keep talking about the assault allegation. I'm 424 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: talking about based on the agreed upon facts of some 425 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: of the stuff they're attacking Pete with you, this is 426 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: where it gets more complicated. And Ron DeSantis and Bridge 427 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: Colby are both being talked about as possible Secretary of 428 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: Defense as well. Here's my thing. 429 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: I get bowed up when you come after someone and 430 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: it makes me want them to be confirmed more. And 431 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 3: this happened for me with Brett Kavanaugh. I think Brett 432 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 3: Kavanaugh in general, Buck was a middle of the road, 433 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: kind of boring selection for the Supreme Court. And I'm 434 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: not trying to take massive shots at him. I think 435 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: he's done okay as a Supreme Court justice. But as 436 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: soon as they came after him with everything they had, 437 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: and I know you were fired up about this too, 438 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: like Brett Kavanaugh has to be the guy. You cannot 439 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: allow the precedent here. 440 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: I think that the Brett Kavanaugh attempted character character destruction 441 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: was at that point the ugliest thing I'd ever seen 442 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: at that level of American politics. I will say the 443 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh thing and the Hegseth thing is different. And here's why. 444 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: The stuff about Kavanaugh, all of it was a lie. 445 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: Based on the facts presented and what people said and 446 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: what the evidence is, all of it was a lie. 447 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, yeah, I think Murkowski and Collins 448 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: and people are missing this. They have a problem with, 449 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: and so does Lindsey Graham, by the way, with some 450 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: of the stuff that is agreed upon fact and that 451 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: there was nothing about Kavanaugh where we said, yeah, you know, 452 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: you know this happened, or yeah, you know he had 453 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: a balanced first marriage and he got divorced, and there's 454 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: things like that, so wreck but you see what I mean, 455 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: that's yeah, and I think people are missing that component 456 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: of it. Like I can go to the mat with 457 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: Pete is great, Pete would do a great job. They're 458 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: lying about him with the sexual assault thing. But I 459 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 1: think Murkowski's Graham and the others are saying, Yeah, but 460 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: this guy's got some messy stuff that is agreed upon fact, 461 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: and we think that's a problem for confirmation. That's where 462 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: I think he's running into some issues. So I think 463 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 1: this gets into an intriguing question. To me, Trump being 464 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: elected despite being on his third marriage and having in 465 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: his background a variety of different what I would say 466 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: is a typical public politician background. To me, at base 467 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: cleans the deck, and all I care about is are 468 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: you the best guy or the best gal for the job. 469 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: I don't really care about personal lives. Now, for your point, 470 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: it is an interesting point, And I remember this discussion 471 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: when Bill Clinton was commander in chief that if he 472 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: were a general who had had a relationship with Monica Lewinsky, 473 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: he would have been court martialed. Right, He couldn't have 474 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: led based on his behavior as president. That would have 475 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: disqualified him to be in a position of leadership in 476 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: the military. This is a little bit of a balancing 477 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: act that is unique because correct me if I'm wrong. 478 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: Buck Lloyd Austin is actually a rarity in that he 479 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: was a former general who was then hired to basically 480 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: oversee This is typically a civilian job, right, in many 481 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: respects when it comes to being the head of the 482 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: Defense Department. Yes, it's a massive managerial role, is really 483 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, you're you're at the time 484 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: of in many ways the largest and most unwieldy government 485 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: organization on the planet. I mean, you know, I mean 486 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: maybe the Chinese military is larger, but in terms of 487 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: the ability to lead this thing, it's it's going to 488 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: be a massive challenge. And here's where where things stand 489 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: right now. There are all these stories coming out Wall 490 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: Street Journal, among them saying and I've had some other independent, 491 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: third hand corroboration of some of this, as somebody told 492 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: somebody who told me that they're looking at Ron de 493 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: Santis and they're looking at Bridge Colby. Now I understand 494 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: people really like Pete. I think Pete's great. I'm Pete's 495 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: as I said, I am not impartial. Pete is a friend, 496 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: and if he asked me for a favor, I would 497 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: do it. But Bridge is brilliant. Ron is brilliant. They 498 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: both would also be really good. You know, Pete was 499 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: talked about for VA. Would that be a better fit 500 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: for him in the Santists would take the job? Would 501 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: he leave Florida governor to be head of the Defense Department. 502 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: Do you think, I mean, I don't know the answer. 503 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: Do you think he would take it? That's tough, I think. 504 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, as a Floridian I don't 505 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: want to lose my governor because I think he's the 506 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: best governor in America. You know, I don't know me to. 507 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 3: Be fair, I agree with that as somebody who owns 508 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 3: property in Florida would probably live in Florida if I 509 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 3: didn't live in Tennessee. I think he's been phenomenal, playing 510 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: a little bit Devil's advocate here. He's only got two 511 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: years left, right, he can't run for reelection. We're into 512 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. How much does and I don't know 513 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: the answer. This would be a good question for how 514 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: much more does Ron DeSantis think that he can get 515 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 3: done in the next year and change in Florida versus 516 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: being the head of the Defense Party? And does he 517 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: want the job? I just I would love to know 518 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: the answer to that question. I mean, I'll put it 519 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: to you this way, Pete. You know, just looking at 520 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 3: the strengths of the various candidates, this is going to 521 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 3: be an important role Okay, there Russia Ukraine thing still 522 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: raging on, and then we fired missiles or I'm sorry 523 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 3: we didn't fire missiles. Our missiles have been fired into 524 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not that far from Ukraine. We've obviously 525 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: got big problems still in the Middle Oh less big 526 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: now thanks to Israel, but there's you know, the big 527 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 3: challenges in the Middle East and other places. I'd say 528 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 3: this clay for these different individuals, like I said, Pete Bridge, Ron, Okay, 529 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: Pete's hegseeth Bridge, Colby Elbridge, Colby Ron DeSantis, these are 530 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 3: all these are all first round draft picks for these 531 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: kinds of jobs. These are these are very very good people. 532 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: I think with Pete you get absolute love for the 533 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: troops and somebody who would want to do right by 534 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: them and hates this DEI nonsense and also opposes women 535 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: in combat, by the way, which is and I every wharf, 536 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: every war fighter I know agrees with that. By the 537 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: fighter meeting combat veteran that I've spoken to is like, 538 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: with the exception of pilots and things, but I'm talking 539 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: about like ground infantry combat. I've never met somebody in 540 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: my own personal life who disagrees with Pete on that 541 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: with Bridge. If China invades Taiwan, do I want Bridge 542 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: to be sitting there in the situation room or whatever 543 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: like helping figure out what to do. Yes. And if 544 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: you want somebody to set the DoD right in terms 545 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: of budget outlays, deal with the you know, the military 546 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: industrial complex, cut off the war machine and its profiteering. 547 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: Can Ron handle that? Yeah? He'd be phenomenal. Do you 548 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 549 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 550 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: I like all that analysis. I just come back to 551 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: when I hear NBC News going with anonymous sources and 552 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: just ripping hag set to shreds. It makes me want 553 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 3: to in the same way that you're not supposed to 554 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: leave any man behind. I don't like the idea of 555 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: Trump deciding, hey, this is my guy, and then somebody 556 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 3: other than Trump being able to decide no, you can't 557 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: have him. We just had an election. If I were 558 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: a I would vote for every single nominee that Donald 559 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: Trump put forward. Because Trump just won the most votes 560 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: for any Republican candidate of all time. Therefore, I think 561 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: he deserves This is one where Barack Obama's one hundred 562 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 3: percent right elections have consequences, and I know the Senate 563 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: has the role of advising and consenting. But we just 564 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: had the entire United States advising consent on Donald Trump 565 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: as president. I think Donald Trump should get his entire 566 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 3: cabinet through. Did anybody get shot down that Biden wanted? 567 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: I'd have to I don't think so. I don't remember, 568 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: but I would just say, well, there's what Trump wants 569 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 3: and is what the Senate will do. 570 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: Right, that's the This is totally get it. 571 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is if I were a senator, 572 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: I would be incredibly deferential to Trump. Here, You're right, 573 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: maybe the votes aren't they I remember, we only have 574 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: a fifty three forty seven lead, so it does take 575 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: three and a half, right, because you presume that jd. 576 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: Vance is going to vote for any of the nominees. 577 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: At some point, Matt Gates just said, hey, I can't 578 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: get over the finish the line. They got Matt Gates. 579 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: Now they're going to get Pete hegg Seth. Let me 580 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 3: just point this out. It's not going to stop there. 581 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: If they get heag Seth, then they're going to go 582 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: after somebody else. And I just don't like the president being, hey, 583 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: we'll go into your background and we will come after you, 584 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 3: character assassinate you to the end degree, say some things that. 585 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: I know to be untrue. Well, in an evert to 586 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: try to take him down Gates, I believe if we 587 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: based on the reporting and also what I've heard from Magaworld, 588 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: Gates decided that he wasn't going to get through the 589 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: votes weren't there. That's right. It happened, right, So that 590 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: wasn't That wasn't like Trump necessarily changing his mind. It 591 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: was just the reality of unless we want to try 592 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: to get into a fight over a recess appointment for 593 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: the Attorney general right out of the gate with Pete. 594 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: This is but this is what I was bringing up, right, 595 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: it's it's Murkowski, Collins. Lindsey Graham has come out and 596 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: said this probably Mitch McConnell. Let's be honest. Yeah, Mitch McConnell, 597 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. They are troubled. Everyone keeps focusing on 598 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: the sexual assault allegation. 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Hegseeth 607 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: for other names to be floated reliably that they may 608 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: be interested in that job or willing to take it. 609 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I think a lot of people. I mean, 610 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: we'll take some calls. Or on DeSantis, would he take it? 611 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: I don't know the answer, but if his name's getting floated, 612 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: to me, it means he hasn't said no. 613 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: Right. 614 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 3: Trump and DeSantis were just together yesterday, just you know, 615 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 3: interesting in and of itself. Look, I want all you 616 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 3: to sign up for prize picks right now. Got to 617 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 3: pick that. 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