1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: It was shaping up to be a busy morning that 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Saturday in May two thousand and eight at Saint Anne 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Street Police Station in Liverpool, England. Inside the front counter 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: staff prepared themselves for the usual calls and concerns that 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: tended to accompany the morning after the Friday night before, 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: having dealt with a few walk ins already. It had 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: just gone eight thirty when the front door swung open 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: and two women entered, carrying one large rucksack and an 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: over the shoulder sports bag between them. There wasn't much 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: that the staff on duty there hadn't seen, but something 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: about these two was a little different. The women, middle aged, 12 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: with one wearing a short lime green puffer jacket and 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: the other a long red coat, appeared to be identical 14 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: twins and were clearly in a state of agitation. As 15 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: the woman in the green jacket sat down, the other 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: approached the desk. As the woman explained the counterstaff, they 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: had just got off the ferry that morning from Dublin, 18 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: having made their way from County Cork. The woman, who 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: gave her name as Sabina Erikson, needed help because her partner, 20 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: with whom she lived in Ireland, had kidnapped her children. 21 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: After taking a few more details, the counterstaff suggested Sabina 22 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: take a seat while they made a few calls. Sabina, 23 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: as it transpired, was a Swedish national who'd been living 24 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: in the town of Mallow in Ireland for the past 25 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: few years with her partner and children. Her sister, Ursula Ericson, 26 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: who lived in the United States, had flown to Ireland 27 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: the previous day to spend some time with Sabina. Now 28 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: the reasons that weren't entirely clear, the pair were sat 29 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: in a police station in Liverpool. Having taken Sabina's address 30 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: and contact number. An officer on duty made a quick 31 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: call to the Guarder, the Republic of Ireland's police force. 32 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: The officer suggested they send a car round to Sabina's 33 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: address to investigate her accusation. It was almost three hours 34 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: later when Guarder officers arrived at Sabina's home address, only 35 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: to find her partner and her children there safe and sound, 36 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: with no obvious sign of anything unto ward having taken place. 37 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: As the partner explained, with Sabina's sister Ursula having just 38 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: arrived out of the blue the day before, the two 39 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: sisters had spent the day together before coming home to sleep. 40 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: When he woke up the following morning, they were nowhere 41 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 1: to be found. The guarder called the officer at Saint 42 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Anne Street police station to relay the information, but by 43 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: that time Sabina and Ursula had gone some sixty miles 44 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: south of Liverpool along the M six motorway. Melissa Dutton, 45 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: the manager of a service station located just outside Keel, 46 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: was about to take her lunch when she was contacted 47 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: by the driver of a coach heading from Liverpool to 48 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: Victoria Station in London. The driver was requesting help with 49 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: two of his passengers that he was having difficulty with. 50 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: Dutton arrived in the service station car park to find 51 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Sabina and Ursula standing huddled close together next to the coach. 52 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: As the driver explained to her he'd become suspicious of 53 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: the pair when they refused to place their luggage in 54 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: the hold. One of the women was said to have 55 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: asked the coast to stop since she was feeling unwell, 56 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: but when he saw them take their bags with them, 57 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: the driver became suspicious again, though he had no legal 58 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: right to demand to know what was in their bags. 59 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: In the wake of the July seventh tube and bus 60 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: bombings in London three years previously, all transport company staff 61 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: had been encouraged to be extra vigilant. Worried that they 62 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: might be hiding something, he refused to let them back 63 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: on board. With not much else to be done, Dutton 64 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: suggested the pair seek alternative arrangements, and then watched as 65 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: they conferred quietly together, looked about the car park, and 66 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: then headed off around the back of the service station. 67 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Now growing concerned by their behavior herself, Dutton made a 68 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: phone call to the police, asking them to come and 69 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: speak to the women. The police found Sabina and Ursula 70 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: milling about the car park, asking them what they were doing. 71 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: Sabina explained that they were merely trying to get to 72 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: London when they were unfair early kicked off the coach. 73 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: The officers gave the women a contact number for another 74 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: bus company and suggested they call them to find another 75 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: coach to take them the rest of the way. Up 76 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: in the control room of the Highways Agency in Birmingham, 77 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: forty five miles from Keel, agency staff work the phones 78 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: in front of a vast bank of monitors displaying CCTV 79 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: footage covering all major roads linked to the region. It 80 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: was roughly three thirty pm when one worker spotted something 81 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: unusual on one of the monitors. Sabina and Ursula making 82 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: their way north up the Central Reservation as three lanes 83 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: of fast moving traffic tore past them on either side. 84 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: Though not police, it is the Highway Agency's responsibility to 85 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: monitor traffic, congestion and other motorway infringements. Fearing the women 86 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: were in danger, a patrol vehicle was duly dispatched to 87 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: gather them from the Central Reservation. Moments later, shortly before 88 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: the patrol car is due to arrive, the agency worker 89 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: watches in horror as the two women attempt to cross 90 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: the busy motorway. Stepping over the barrier, Sabina makes a 91 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: break for it, only to be clipped by an oncoming 92 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: car traveling over seventy miles an hour and knock to 93 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: the ground. But then, as the agency worker watches in disbelief, 94 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: Sabina merely hauls herself back to her feet and makes 95 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: the way to the other side of the road, seeming 96 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: completely unfazed by what had happened. Just a few miles away, 97 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: two motorway police officers are being filmed for a BBC 98 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: documentary series. When the call comes in to assist the 99 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: highway officers in dealing with the two women, as a 100 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: steady drizzle of rain begins to fall, the officers PC 101 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: and PC Finlayson arrived to find Sabina and Ursula standing 102 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: by the side of the road next to their bags, 103 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: being quietly spoken to by the highway officers. One of 104 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: the officers approaches the police and to briefs them on 105 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: what has taken place, while a BBC camera operator films 106 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: their exchange. Behind them, six lanes of traffic speed by 107 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: in a monotonous cascade of Doppler engine noise as the 108 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: light rain continues to fall. As one of the highway 109 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: officers leans in to speak with Sabina, Ursula makes a 110 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: break for it, only not over the grassy verge to 111 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: her left, but straight out across the motorway. The officer 112 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: spins round in an attempt to catch hold of her, 113 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: but can only grab the sleeve of her jacket. As 114 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: Ursula turns back in desperation, slips free from her coat 115 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: and charges headlong under the wheels of a forty ton 116 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: or truck. PC Finlayson, who had turned just in time 117 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 1: to catch her disappearing underneath it, screamed out in horror, 118 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: but before anyone has time to fathom what has happened, 119 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: Sabina has also stepped out purposefully into the oncoming traffic, 120 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: running straight into a Volkswagen Polo traveling at sixty miles 121 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: an hour, making no attempt to get out of the way. 122 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: In an instant, her body is flipped over the front, 123 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: slamming hard into the bonnet and smashing the windscreen. As 124 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: the car screeches to a halt, she has flung forward 125 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: again and tumbles to the ground with a sickening thud, 126 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: And then for a brief moment, everything is still. With 127 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: all traffic now stopped on both sides of the motorway, 128 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: Sabina and Ursula remained complete still on the tarmac. PC 129 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: Finlayson yells into his walkie talkie for an immediate ambulance dispatch, 130 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: knowing only too well that it's probably in vain, But 131 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: as the four officers run to help, they are shocked 132 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: and relieved to find that both women are still alive. 133 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: Rushing to Ursula, Finlayson, seeing that her legs have been 134 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: horrifically mangled, urges her to stay calm, but Ursula does 135 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: nothing of the sort. Screaming for the officer to leave 136 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: her alone. She demands that he called the police. When 137 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: he tries to tell her that he is the police, 138 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: she only becomes more agitated. Clearly in a state of paranoia, 139 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: Ursula calls out for her sister, who is still lying 140 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: silently in the road, having hit her head after being 141 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: struck by the car. Sabina has been knocked out cold, 142 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: with paramedics now on hand to help. PC Cope is 143 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: just asking for an neck brace when suddenly Sabina begins 144 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:08,119 Speaker 1: to stir. As Cope urges her to stay down, Sabina 145 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: somehow scrambles to her feet. Two minutes ago she was 146 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: out cold, having been struck by a car at sixty 147 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: miles per hour, and now she is standing up as 148 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: if nothing has happened. As Cope tells her again to 149 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: stay down, Sabina takes one look around and bolts toward 150 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: the central reservation. Cope attempts to grab her, but with 151 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: unusual strength, Sabina floors the police officer, pushing her to 152 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: the ground. PC Finlayson gives chase and soon has Sabina 153 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: cornered but rather than give up, Sabina whips off her 154 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: coat and faces down the officer. It'll take six people 155 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: in total to eventually subdue her, bringing her kicking and 156 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: screaming to the far side of the road, where they 157 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: are eventually able to handcuff her. Still needing to get 158 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: her to a hospital, paramedics are forced to administer a 159 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: sedative to calm her down. As members of the public 160 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: start to gather, filming the event on their mobiles. An 161 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: air ambulance arrives to take Ursula to hospital, and Sabina 162 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: is placed in an ambulance and taken there too. Are 163 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: you always taking care of your family? Do you often 164 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: take care of others and not yourself? Now it's time 165 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: to take care of yourself. To make time for you. 166 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: You deserve it. 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No 182 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: drugs or alcohol are found to be in her system 183 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: Sabina is also checked over, but found to have only 184 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: minor scratches and bruises, and her head injury is not 185 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: considered bad enough to warrant an overnight observation. Of being 186 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: assessed by a psychiatrist, a police doctor, and a social worker, 187 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: she is deemed fit to be released from hospital while 188 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: under supervision. The woman's bags were finally searched, but revealed 189 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: little more than a passport for Ursula and some clothes, 190 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: but also curiously, a number of mobile phones. There is 191 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: nothing else to explain what the women were doing or 192 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: where they were heading. Having been discharged from hospital, Sabina 193 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: is immediately arrested and charged with trespassing on the motorway 194 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: and assaulting a police officer. PC Elliot is instructed to 195 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: deliver her from the hospital to the police station, having 196 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: been briefed on her earlier behavior. The Sabina who greets 197 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: him outside the hospital is a far cry from the 198 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: description he'd been given by now, appearing upbeat and completely 199 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: oblivious of what had just taken place, it sees no 200 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: reason to even apply handcuffs before asking her to take 201 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: a seat in the back of the car, which she 202 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: does without any resistance. Later at the station, Sabina is 203 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: processed and formally charged with the various offenses. Not once 204 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: does she inquire about the health of her sister or 205 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: elaborate on what the two of them were doing on 206 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: the motorway. For the second time that day, Sabina's partner 207 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: in Ireland is contacted by police, only this time it 208 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: is to inform him that Sabina has been arrested again. 209 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: He claims no knowledge of what she's doing in England. 210 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: That afternoon, as officers marvel at Sabina's complete change of personality. 211 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: Few fully register the seemingly throwaway line that Sabina utters 212 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: as her details are being recorded that in Sweden they 213 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: have a saying. She says that an accident rarely comes alone. 214 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: Usually at least one more follows, perhaps even two. Sabina's 215 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: case is set to be heard in the local magistrate's court, 216 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: but since it's a Saturday and they won't be open 217 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: till Monday, she is ordered into a cell, where she 218 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: will stay for the next two nights. On Monday morning, 219 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: Sabina is taken to Fenton Magistrate's Court, just outside the 220 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: city of Stoke on Trent, where she pleads guilty to 221 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: the charges and is sentenced to one day in custody. 222 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: Already spent. Seeing no reason to keep her detained any 223 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: longer or administer a full psychiatric evaluation, she is released 224 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: later that night. Friends fifty four year old Glenn hollins 225 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: Head and Peter molloy are enjoying a quick drink at 226 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: the Royal Oak Pub on Christchurch Street in Fenton. It's 227 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: just gone nine thirty pm when the pair decided to 228 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: call it a night and make their way back home, 229 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: accompanied by Glenn's dog, who he'd brought out with him earlier. 230 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: Having just left the pub, a woman called out to 231 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: the men from the other side of the road, saying 232 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: that she liked their dog. As Peter molloy would later state, 233 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: the woman was Sabina, who appeared to be lost. Heading 234 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: over to speak with her, Sabina introduced herself and explained 235 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: that she was trying to find the local hospital to 236 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: check in on her sister, who was being looked after there. 237 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: With it getting late, she also wondered if the men 238 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: knew of any hotels nearby that she might use for 239 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: the night. It was only then that Peter noticed the 240 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: plastic bag she was carrying that seemed to have all 241 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: her possessions in it, and wondered if they shouldn't just 242 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: move on. Glenn, however, was eager to help, Thinking it 243 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: would be hard for Bena to find somewhere to stay 244 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: nearby so late in the day, he suggested she come 245 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: back to his house, where he could make her some 246 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: food and she could use his spare room for the night. 247 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: Glenn also had a brother that worked at the hospital 248 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: who might be able to give them an update on 249 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: how her sister was doing. Thanking him for the offer, 250 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: Sabina followed Glenn and Peter back to Glenn's house. For 251 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: the next few hours, the three of them shared some 252 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: drinks and chatted, but Sabina seemed unable to relax, sitting 253 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: for one minute, but then getting up the next and 254 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: peering suspiciously out of the window before returning to her seat. 255 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: Pulling a packet of cigarettes out of her bag, she 256 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: offered one to Glen and Peter, who gladly accepted, but 257 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: no sooner had they put them in their mouths, Sabina 258 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: grabbed them back, telling them that they couldn't smoke them 259 00:17:55,040 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: because they were poisoned. Though Glenn seemed untroubled by her behavior, 260 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: Peter grew more and more uncomfortable, until finally unable to 261 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: bear it any longer, he made his goodbyes and returned home. 262 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: The following day, Glenn's brother Paul, while on duty at 263 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: the University Hospital of North Staffordshire, received a call from 264 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: Glenn asking if he could inquire as to the whereabouts 265 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: of Ursula ericson. Paul said he would see what he 266 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: could do and agreed to call back when he had 267 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: the information. Later that day, around seven forty PM. Glenn's neighbor, Frank, 268 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: was washing a minibust that he looked after in the 269 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: alleyway behind his house when Glenn appeared unexpectedly, asking if 270 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: he could borrow some tea bags. Frank offered to get 271 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: him some once he'd finished cleaning the vehicle. Just over 272 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: a minute later, Glenn appeared again in the alleyway, only 273 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: this time he was stumbling forward and clutching at his chest. 274 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: She stabbed me, he said, what do you mean, said Frank, 275 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: looking on in disbelief. Then he saw the blood gushing 276 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: out of Glenn's neck that was also bleeding through his top. 277 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: She stabbed me, said Glenn again, as he collapsed to 278 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: the floor. Frank told him to hold on as he 279 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: dashed off inside to call an ambulance. By the time 280 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: he returned, Glenn was dead. At that moment, Joshua Grattige 281 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: was making his way toward heron Cross Roundabout in his car, 282 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: just two minutes from Glenn's house, when he was distracted 283 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: by a bizarre sight. It was Sabina standing on an 284 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: island between two roads, covered in blood and hitting herself 285 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: in the head with a lump hammer. Thinking the blood 286 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: must have been hers gratige, stopped the car immediately and 287 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: attempted to wrestle the hammer out of her hand, but 288 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: as he tried to grab it, Sabina fought him off. 289 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: As the frantic sirens of an approaching ambulance could be heard, 290 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: Sabina pushed herself free and raced off in the direction 291 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: of heron cross around about positioned above the busy AD 292 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: fifty trunk road. Without looking back, Sabina made her way 293 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: to the middle of a bridge section above the road, 294 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: climbed over the railings and jumped. Sabina fell thirty feet 295 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: to the hard concrete surface straight into oncoming traffic, breaking 296 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: both her ankles and fracturing her skull, but incredibly survived. 297 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: After two weeks, having been deemed to have sufficiently recovered, 298 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: Sabina was arrested for the murder of Glen Hollins's head, 299 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: who was found to have been stabbed five times with 300 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: a kitchen knife. However, it wouldn't be until September, three 301 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: months later that Sabina was finally released from hospital, taken 302 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: into custody, and formally charged with Glenn's murder. At about 303 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: the same time, Ursula was also declared well enough to 304 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: leave hospital. With no charges being brought against her, she 305 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: was free to leave the country. After traveling to Sweden 306 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: for a short time, she eventually returned to the US. 307 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: Sabina at first pleaded not guilty to the murder, then 308 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: at her eventual trial in September the following year, accepted 309 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: the charge of manslaughter with diminished responsibility. Prior to her trial, 310 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: she was given a psychiatric assessment by teams for both 311 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: the defense and prosecution, with each coming to the conclusion 312 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: that she'd been suffering a psychiatric episode at the time 313 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: of the killing, but by the time of her trial 314 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: was considered perfectly sane. Though a number of psychiatric explanations 315 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: were put forward by the opposing legal teams, in the end, 316 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: neither could say exactly what had occurred. Some believed she'd 317 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: suffered an episode of what is known as folly adeur, 318 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: a madness of two in which Sabina was considered to 319 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: have somehow been influenced by the presence of her twin sister, 320 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: who was judged to have been the instigator of the psychosis. 321 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: Others believed that she'd been suffering from an acute polymorphic 322 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: psychotic disorder, which would have left Sabina experiencing terrifying hallucinations 323 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: and delusions. However, since both illnesses are extremely rare and 324 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: ursula was never assessed, it was virtually impossible to know 325 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: for sure what had happened, and as a result, it 326 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: was extremely difficult for the judge to pass a sentence. 327 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: Unable to give her an indeterminate sentence in which she 328 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: would be released when she was no longer a danger 329 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: to the public since she already wasn't, in the end, 330 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: he was forced to give her a fixed term sentence 331 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: with no obligation that she be supervised or monitored after 332 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: her release throughout the entirety of her arrest and trial. 333 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: When asked to explain her and her sister's actions, Sabina 334 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: replied only no comment. 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