1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to here's the thing. 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Stop stop stop. If you're a baby boomer, that might 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: be the version of Singing in the Rain. You most 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: remember Malcolm McDowell and Stanley Kubrick's satiric masterpiece A Clockwork Orange, 5 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: But if you were born before the nineteen fifties, you 6 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: probably prefer this just sing. It's rare when a movie 7 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: comes along and inspires a whole generation of actors, singers, 8 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: and directors. Singing in the Rain is one of those movies. 9 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: It also transformed the lives of its stars. Debbie Reynolds 10 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: was just a twenty year world actress under contract at MGM, 11 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: but after her performance and that iconic film, Debbie Reynolds 12 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: was destined to become a star. Some of the highlights 13 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: of her career include Tammy and Tammy and The Bachelor, 14 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: with a song that reached number one on the Billboard Charts, 15 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I Hear the Cottonwoods Whisperingable Jimmy jem je j Love. 16 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: Reynolds was nominated for an Academy Award for her leading 17 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: role in The Unsinkable Molly Brown and received a Tony 18 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: nomination for her Broadway debut in the musical Irene Over. 19 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: Twenty years later, Reynolds played Albert Brooks mother in his 20 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: film entitled Mother The Other One Is he staying with 21 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: me for a while. Debbie and I Sell braided our 22 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: birthdays earlier this month, just two days apart. We share 23 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: an astrological sign aries I'm still living. Isn't that extraordinary? Well? 24 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it when my birthday came again. It 25 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: just was and there were the world and eighty one. 26 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: I said, hold it. I didn't want to be eighty 27 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: How did we get to eighty one? And Debbie Reynolds 28 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: has stayed busy, Unlike a lot of her contemporaries. My friends, 29 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: a lot of them just gave up because there weren't 30 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: any good rules and everything they read was sort of 31 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: a moron and that was depressing to a lot of them. 32 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: So the opportunities they just walked away, and everything just 33 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: wound up to be like nothing, you know, And so 34 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: they took up different hobbies. Some of them became example teachers. 35 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: Agnes Moorehead was one of my best girlfriends, and she 36 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: was a great actor's really great and she had a 37 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: lot of students at her house, come over and she 38 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: taught acting. She taught acting, and she taught singing. She 39 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: taught impressions to California, California on Roxbury. Right across the 40 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: street was Jimmy Stewart and Lucille Ball and everybody was 41 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: on that one street. It was like, let's have a 42 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: party every night. George Burns and Eddie Candor lived on 43 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: one block because I would drive over there because that 44 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: street was more fun than my phone. No, I'm going 45 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: to mention certain people, and not for the obvious reasons, 46 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: but I you remained friends with Elizabeth Taylor until she died. 47 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: Why do you think she stopped working? And why do 48 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: you think she stopped taking care of it? Had to 49 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: stop working. She became quite ill. She wouldn't have ever 50 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: quit working all. Elizabeth loved to work, Yes she did, 51 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: and she was a very good actress. We did a 52 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: picture Carrie wrote, My daughter Carry These Old Broads. It 53 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: was called and as Shirley McClain, Joan Collins and Elizabeth 54 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: and myself, So I made this movie. We made a 55 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: movie was that called These Old Broads That Carry Missing 56 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: this movie, Well, maybe you're one of the lucky ones out. 57 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: It was a cute movie was you know, four old 58 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: broads that gave up was what you're talking about. They 59 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: gave up working and you know, just kind of dillied 60 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: around with the rest of their US movie You Elizabeth 61 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: Taylor College and Shirlie McCain. It was funny. Well, we 62 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun working together that Joan. Nevertheless, 63 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: you watch her makeup and she hides in her trailer 64 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: and all her makeup. But we all kind of quite 65 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: an operation. Well it is an operation for all of 66 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: us at a certain point when you look in the 67 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: mirror and everything is moved someplace else and all you broads, 68 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: shall we say, came these four broads came from an 69 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: error when everything was just was at its height. It's 70 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: kind of heightened. Doing your hair and your makeup and 71 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: your costumes and everything that's thought is things super important 72 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: and everything is done for you. When we were under contract, 73 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: most of us, Shirley McClain and Elizabeth, they were at MGM, 74 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: and everything was done for us, you know, the makeup 75 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: of hair, It sent cars for us. We were very spoiled. 76 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: We didn't kind of know what to do when they 77 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: dropped everybody, Like when television came in and remember what 78 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: year around that was. Studio system kind of died as 79 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: you get into the fifties, it's slowly died a death. 80 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: You know. It was like interesting to watch it was. 81 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was the end, you know, I 82 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: didn't know that it was that you didn't know what 83 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: the change meant. Well, I was a young girl, so 84 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: I didn't. And I wasn't an intellectual. I wasn't educated. 85 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm from Burbankbank and originally from teacher. That's me. You 86 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: know what. I always aim high too. I love Jim, 87 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: you know I love I wanted to be a live 88 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: guard son girls. Well yeah, yeah, Well I was never 89 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: that ambitious that I wanted to be a lifeguard. But 90 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a gymnast. I wanted to work 91 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: on the bars and enterpedes work. I loved all that stuff. 92 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: And what's the link for you as a young girl, 93 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: because she started very young as a young girl in 94 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: Burbank and you're athletic, no doubt. What's the first thing 95 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: that happened that says show business to you? Well, I 96 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: never thought about me being in show business. I was 97 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,119 Speaker 1: a fan and I would go to the movies because 98 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: my mother let me, but no one else in our 99 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: church was allowed to go to films because movie stars 100 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: were all evil creatures, just dreadful. My mother let me 101 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: go to films. Mother was very religious, very my family 102 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: said my dad. My father used to say, no, no, no, 103 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go to church with you. I've 104 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: told you that I'm not going to go because all 105 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: those good people will be killed. If I walked down, 106 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: the roof would fall. And he was always teasing if 107 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: you by asking what church did you go to? Church 108 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: of the Nazarene, which is like hard shell Baptist, kind 109 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: of like your mom was a heart. She was a Texan. 110 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: She was a Texan Texan Baptist. She was tough and strict, 111 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: and there were so many rules. How many kids in 112 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: the family. Just my brother and I were in the family. 113 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: And then my mother discovered what's your brother's name? Bill? 114 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: And do you know who Bill is? To me? You 115 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: don't know. Do you know that Billy Reynolds was my 116 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: makeup artist on nuts Landing for a year? Oh my gosh, 117 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: was he your brother? Billy? Isn't he my makeup artist? 118 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: And he's one of the people that helped me survived 119 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: that experience because those three broads were from the Joan 120 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: Colins School where they were having the makeup put on 121 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: with a trowel every day. I had to have federally 122 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: funded programs to pay for the makeup for them. Billy 123 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: Reynolds would turn to me and he'd sit there and say, 124 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, did you bring a book with you to go? 125 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: We're in a be here for a while. These girls 126 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: are two or three hours in the chair. And then 127 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: he told me that he was Elvis's makeup artist. As 128 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: you know that every time he mentioned Elvis, he didn't 129 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: mention it a lot because he was very shy, very shy. 130 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: He mentioned Elvis once or twice and he started to cry. 131 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: He would turn away from me and hide to say. 132 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: He said to me, Elvis was the greatest man I 133 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: ever worked with. Well, the only used to play. Elvis 134 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: used to tease him a lot and put snakes down 135 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: his pants and popcorn and pop pop popcorn and put 136 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: it in his drawers. You know, they used to kid 137 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: my brother. They used to just pick on him kind of, 138 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: but he didn't care. My brother was a baseball player, 139 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: really man's man. He lives men in my house with me. 140 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: Will you give him my love? I don't even know 141 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: if he'll remember me. Yes, Oh he remembers everything. He 142 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: just doesn't talk about it. You know some men that 143 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: are like almost reclusive, but not really, because underneath all 144 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: of that is a great sense of humor. I adore 145 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: my brother. I think he helped save my life. The 146 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: ladies here, by the way, who we work with, made 147 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: us a cupcake. I see, I know that the candle. 148 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: I just said, the candle just burned my finger. Candles 149 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: and strawberries and cupcakes. It's our birthday that has to 150 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: be nice to us, so it has to be nice 151 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: to us. They made the cupcake gluten free, but you 152 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: and I both know the gluten free really is bullshit. Well, 153 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: I think you're allowed on the radio, you know, I 154 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: always I used to be a disc jockey when I 155 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: was sixteen years older. Was it Warner Brothers. I first 156 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: went there when I first won this a little contest? 157 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: What contest in Burbank, California, where I was raised. So 158 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: we came from Texas because we were really poor, and 159 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: my dad wanted us to have a better life, so 160 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: he moved us to California. Work. He's looking for he railroad. 161 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: He worked for the railroad. He repaired underneath the engines. 162 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: He would repair all kinds of a railroad happening there 163 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: in California. Well, my my dad worked really hard, but 164 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: I did the most boring job in the whole wide world. 165 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: I retired him as soon as I came As luck 166 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: changed in my whole life changed, and I came into 167 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: show business. I discovered a whole different world and that 168 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: people really had fun and people laughed. And our life 169 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: was rather tedious and hard because we didn't have any money. 170 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean, my dad made two hundred a month. Now 171 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: that's better than nothing, but it's still also AD buys 172 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: very little, so our life was a little bit meager. 173 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: You know. We never had a Christmas tree. We never 174 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: had So when the opportunity came along for you to 175 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: get into the business, and I'm from the same school, actually, 176 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm wondering where you was enticed by and where you 177 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: was thrilled by as much about making money to help 178 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: your family as you were about your own glory. Well, honestly, 179 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was a joke that I won this contest, 180 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I'm in movies. The 181 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: silliest thing was the contest. It was a Miss Burbank. 182 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: Mrs Burbank. Don't don't, don't, don't downplay that. No, I 183 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: like it changed my whole life, had made my whole 184 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: life wonderful and marvelous. Travel all over the world and 185 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: meet all these fabulous, interesting people and see different countries 186 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: as so I'm very proud to say I was Miss 187 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: Burbank and had a hole in my bathing suit and 188 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: there my rear end was hanging out, and I didn't 189 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: have shoes, high heeled shoes, so I had I'm very 190 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: agrateful for stumbling in the show business. Yeah, Miss Burbank. 191 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: What happened? They took me to Warner Brothers and made 192 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: a little screen test and asked me why I wanted 193 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: to be a movie star. So of course I told 194 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: him I didn't want to. And after they laughed and 195 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: they said, of course you do, I said, no, I don't. 196 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't really, I mean, this is just fun. You're 197 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: just this is you're kidding around, right. I was very 198 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: square and my family were very virginal, you know, very 199 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: go to church Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. You're glad they 200 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: were square. I'm grateful for that kind of upbringing throughout 201 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: your career. And I'm not just saying this, I mean 202 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't waste your time of mind. You know, you're 203 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: a gorgeous woman, and everybody thinks of you and think 204 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: of you being three things, beautiful and talented, but also 205 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: being very straight laced. I mean, your career was something 206 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: where there's a kind of a in the sensuality quote 207 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: and there's a gardener over here. It's kind of working 208 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: that whole thing, and then there's you, who you didn't 209 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: work that whole thing. Did you find that was something 210 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: that was because of your childhoo? I just think that 211 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: that's the way you're raised, you know, it's what you hear. 212 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: What you hear is sinful, and what you hear is 213 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: not proper for young girls to behave in that manner. 214 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: So you were pretty strict, you know, I mean you were, 215 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: and I just grew up that way, so I thought 216 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: that's the way everybody was until after three husbands now 217 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: I realized that as it's totally wrong concept. We're going 218 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: to get to that unlucky and love unlucky? What else 219 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: happens when you're unlucky and I just made it up. 220 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 1: You just wrote that just for you. Okay, well we 221 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: should record you laterning. Good morning. We've danced the whole 222 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: night through. Good morning, good morning to you, and you 223 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: and you and you're good morning, good morning. It's great 224 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: to stay in late. Good morning, good morning to you. 225 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: What fun you see? I can't sing to save my life. 226 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: If you put a gun to my head and said saying, 227 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: you almost sang on key? When did you know you 228 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: could sing? When did you know? You just started singing 229 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: like other people? So what you're saying? So you started 230 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: by doing mimicry. I started mimic Jeanette McDonald's I've never 231 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: tried and that recash. She's a soprano, but I would 232 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: do the alto and ethel mermon anybody with a big voice. 233 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: You know, I don't always do their voices because I 234 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: I enjoy comedy, comedies, everything a Pratt fall sticklach, that's 235 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: everything to me. I love vaudeville, that's my favorite thing. 236 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: I enjoy drama. Somebody else doing it, I personally don't 237 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: want to do it Debbie Reynolds because it's so serious. 238 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: It makes me sad, It takes me where it goes, 239 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: and so I don't accept any parts that are devastating 240 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: because I don't want to be unhappy in my life. 241 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: I'll just live my life is that's tough enough, So 242 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't need any parts that make me miserable. Ball 243 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: So when you're at Warners and you say to them 244 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to be an actress and they do 245 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: the screen test, what happens there that you wind up 246 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: banking over to MGM. What happened? Well, Jack Warner, here's 247 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: the boss. So he said, We're not going to do 248 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: more musical, so I'll send the kid over to MGM. 249 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: They drove me, they sold me like a horse. Well, 250 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: are donkey? I was sort of stubborn, and I say 251 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: a donkey. So I go to MGM, which is l 252 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: will be Mayor and they're still making musicals like mad 253 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: because they were the biggest studio of all. Everybody in 254 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: the world was there, Clark Gable, Vyan Johnson, you know, 255 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: Gear Gars and Lana Turnery, every I mean, the doors 256 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: opened and like all these stars spilled out. It was 257 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: the only one, the only one that ever really left 258 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: on her own was Garble. So all I won't be alone. 259 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: I won't will be alone. So we left her alone. 260 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: She's gone. She's her car. She's weinted a car and 261 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: shipped off. She went to New York. She saved a 262 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. She went to the bank. She met 263 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: the president. His name is Shelee, Mr Shelee, and he's 264 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: gone now. But I know this story. I love stories. 265 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: You could call me a gossip. Garbs with Mr Shelee 266 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: with a hundred grand and she asked, don't please, don't 267 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: help me, don't take care of my money. So Mr 268 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: Shelee falls in love with Greta Garbo and it takes 269 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: care of her the rest of her life. She lived 270 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: in New York City and they used to go for 271 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: a walk. Garbo would walk and Mr Schlei didn't like 272 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: to walk, so he had drive in the rolls roys 273 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: of the Dusselberg or whatever it was beside her while 274 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: she did her shopping antiquing. You know, she loved anti. 275 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: Mr Shelee taking care of Greta Garbo or was her money? No, 276 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: he was taking care of her money. Money. Now what 277 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: they did on the side of her tea or lunch, 278 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: I never inquired because got this girl from Texas doesn't 279 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: tell you know, I didn't want to even think about that, 280 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: because I just wanted to think about what a romantic situation. 281 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: The whole thing as a man trailing along in his 282 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: with this movie star and she's walking looking in old 283 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: and windlows and then he's in a in a car 284 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: right with the door open, driving along beside her. These 285 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: stories don't happen anymore. She walked away forever, She walked 286 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: away forever. She's never made another film ever, And you 287 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: should open an MGM. And what happens, Well, what happens 288 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: is they send me to a meeting. And so they 289 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: called Gene Kelly in the room and Mr Mayer says, here, Jean, 290 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: this is a new girl that you're going to have 291 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: as you're leading lady. And I'm seventeen, and but I 292 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: had never danced before, I'd never acted before, nothing, nothing, person, 293 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: just a girl's scout. So there was a Gene Kelly 294 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 1: a movie. So I couldn't believe the whole scene. I mean, 295 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: I just thought the whole thing was silly. I really 296 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: thought it was silly. So Mr Kelly said, can you 297 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: do a time step? I said, oh, oh, yes, I 298 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: learned that a girl scout cab so he said to 299 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: do time step. So I did a little awful time step. 300 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: Then he said, can you do a Maxi Ford? And 301 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: I said I don't have a car. Well, obviously that 302 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: was the wrong answer. He looked at Mr Mayor and 303 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: he said, you're kidding me, boss, And Mr Mayer said, 304 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: now I'm not getting you meeting you. This is this 305 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: is the leading lady. She's going to do the part. 306 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: And that was it. He was stuck with me, poor thing. 307 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: Can you imagine Jane Gillen and these guys were I'm assuming, 308 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: like like many of the actors I know today, they're 309 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: pretty no nonsense people when it comes to the quality 310 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: of their their product, and they're very hard. But Gene Kelly, 311 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: of course, when it is the most brilliant dancer. Jean said, 312 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: all right, I'll take her. I can I can fix her. 313 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: I can fix it up because she's right for the part. 314 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: The acting, bar and but the dancing. My god. It 315 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: was an interesting time, but I was too young to 316 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: know about it. Stare taught you too. He helped me. 317 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: I was trying to learn everything, like with Donald run 318 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: up the wall and flip backwards you. I knew I 319 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: was a flip. But you know, I had to learn how. 320 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to learn everything, and then I'd be crying 321 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: under the piano. One day, a pair of legs go 322 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: by and I'm some crying away and the legs say, 323 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: who is that under the piano? Who is crying? So 324 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's just me, Debbie. 325 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: So it was a fred Is stare. He said, Debbie, 326 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: get out, get out from underneath. They pulled me out 327 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: and he said, now you come and watch me with hers. 328 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: I never allow anybody. He always had a guard at 329 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: the gate and security guard. No one was ever allowed. 330 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 1: But he let me watch and for maybe over forty minutes, 331 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: and his face turned already just used a cane and 332 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: a drum. After about half an hour in his face 333 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: turning red, and he's doing brilliant work. Of course, he 334 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: looked over at me, says, now, Debbie wants you to 335 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: go back in there, stop crying and be great. In 336 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: order to be a great dancer, you have to practically 337 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: kill yourself. This is what it takes to be a 338 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 1: great dancer. Now running there, just running there, shut up 339 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: and do it help you? Oh? Yes, I just felt 340 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: like I was a big sissy, and I don't like 341 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: to be a big sissy in those days or any 342 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: other day. When you you finished the movie, when it 343 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: was and how did you feel to how and how 344 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: did you feel when it was over? I think you 345 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: you've learned a great deal. Either that or you already quit, 346 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: because in order to keep up with these great talents, 347 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: you had to devote yourself totally. I didn't go home. 348 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: I slept in my dressing room. I wasn't off any days. 349 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: I didn't take any days off because I practiced more 350 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: while I was on Saturday and Sunday. We didn't have 351 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: Saturday off. We only had Sunday off, and not practice 352 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: all the time. And I don't think I changed at all. 353 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: I just learned how to apply myself. And what about 354 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: people's perception of you? That must have changed. The picture 355 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: came out what year, I don't remember what year, something 356 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: like that. Well, it was not a hit. It was 357 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: not a hit. It was just a mediocre hit. And 358 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: then it was discovered. We discovered through the schools and 359 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: the teachers that taught drama and class and lessons that 360 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: the movie became a it through school and for teachers, 361 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: university teachers, and all that Seeing in the Rain has 362 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: remained a hit or became a hit meditan years, fifteen years. 363 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: Is it safe to say that the girl who's crying 364 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: under the table by the time the movie comes out, 365 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: in that process is complete. You're a movie star now, correct? Well, 366 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: I was popular. They couldn't believe a young girl had 367 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: gotten that far and no talent, no no experience. So 368 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: I was newsworthy. But in those days we had movie 369 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: magazines and they'd write all kinds of stories for free, 370 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: you know, studios would give It was the golden era. 371 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: So what kind of story did they write about you then? 372 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: When you're only seventeen eighteen years old? What did they 373 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: make it up? You know, they'd give a little party. 374 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: They'd give a party. They had Rock Hudson going out 375 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: with his secretary. You know Rock didn't want to go 376 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: out with the secretary. Yes, John, Sam and Joe. What's 377 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: the next picture you did? After singing in the Ring? 378 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: After Singing in the Rain? I did? How the West 379 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: was one? With every star you've ever heard about? The 380 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: first movie I ever saw in the movie theater my life. Ever, 381 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: it was a wonderful picture. Spencer Tracy narrated the whole 382 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: thing Stars You'll never see again. That was Tracy's last 383 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: appearance and he didn't even go on film and he 384 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 1: just narrated it and John Wayne was in that everybody. 385 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: It took two years to make that picture. I started 386 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: out playing a sixteen year old and ended up a 387 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: ninety year old, so it felt like my life. There's things. 388 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: I worked very hard on that picture, and Henry Hathaway 389 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: was the director, and he was really tough and very 390 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: hard on everybody. You know, it's not very kind of actors, 391 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: but we were all a little bit stupid and slow. 392 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: He thought it was slow. So he uh, I had 393 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: heard this about him, you know that he was a 394 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: very tough director. So when he came over to Fox 395 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: Studio where I was making another film with Andy Griffith, 396 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: I said to him, he wanted me to do it 397 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: the first part of it, how the West was on. 398 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: I said, well, sir, the truth of it is that 399 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: I've heard really such bad things about you. I don't 400 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: want to work with you. So he just stared at 401 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: He said, what the is that? What? He's cussed like crazy? 402 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, cuss? He said, what the what? You little 403 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: snot nose it little. Oh. Yes, he attacked aggressive, he 404 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: bawled me out, but he just said, you have no 405 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: right to say that I'm boss here, that I cuss 406 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: and all that. I said, well, what are you doing now? 407 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: For goodness sake, what do you think You're yelling at 408 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: me in the commissary there are people staring at everything. 409 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: I said, this is why I would never work for you, 410 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: because I don't want to be miserable. So I turned 411 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: it down, and and he wouldn't let me turn it down. 412 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: He said, no, you're going to do it. And he 413 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: talked to the president of Fox and MGM, which owned 414 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: my contract. They said I had to do it, So 415 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: I had to do it. There's a one where I'll 416 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: build you a home in the mid So back then, 417 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: you signed those contracts and people, I think the the 418 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: distance that the studio system has now, which we seated 419 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: so far for audiences today, they don't understand that notion 420 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: that you signed a contract him, you didn't get to 421 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: pick the films. You were him your own. It's like 422 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: a bondage, the indentured servitude. That's exactly how did the 423 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: picture go with him? Was he was? He was? He? Well, 424 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: I went on, I did. The first section is the 425 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: one that I was signed for and went on location 426 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: and he said there, all right, walk over there. I 427 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: and where am I walking? To sir? You just walk where? 428 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: I said, pointing to I said, I have to understand 429 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: where Why am I walking? What am I saying? He said, no, 430 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, you just do what I say. I said, 431 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: this is what I told you that day we had 432 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: the lunch that you were going to be rude and 433 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: terrible to work with then, So I'm going to go 434 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: lie down to rest. He said, no, you're not. You're 435 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: going to walk over there and you're going to shut up. 436 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: I said, no, I'm not. I'm going to faint because 437 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: you've upset me too much. So I fainted and what happened. 438 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that one. I'm going to do that. 439 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: You just pass out when I mean a director like 440 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna faint? Oh my god, you've upset me some 441 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: boom boom fall. Just fall down. Just let him kick you. 442 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, so lay down. So if you're lame, dude, 443 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: hath a way come up and kick you? Did he 444 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: kind of poke you with his boots. He poked me. 445 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: He poked me with a boom. Seriously, No, he was 446 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: his foot. You know. He poked me because you wake 447 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: up your silly some what custing kidding me. I wouldn't 448 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: open my eyes at all because I was just in 449 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: my mind. I said to stay here all day, just 450 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: say they can't wake make you wake up. So they 451 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: put some that chlora what's that stuff under ether under 452 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: your nose. So yeah, well I didn't still wake up. 453 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: I just breathed really deeply like yoga. You know, no, 454 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: I was. I was doing this iron vedic breathing of 455 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: smelling souls. That's how obstinate you were. I was not 456 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: going to wake up. He couldn't get me up for 457 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: a conclusion of this. What happened? Did you? I'm assuming 458 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: because you're here. You eventually got up. He walked away 459 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: from it. He said, she's faking. I know she's faking it. 460 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill a little kid. And then he became 461 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: amused by it because he thought he knew I was faking, 462 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: but I wasn't going to wake up. He respected you 463 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. He knew I wasn't going awake, he 464 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: knew I wouldn't do it. I was a lot like 465 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: Hathaway say, so, so, how many months did you have 466 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: to go on this goddamn picture? A year, year and 467 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: a half. About ten times. I was going to say, 468 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: how many more faith did you? Did? Your dresser not 469 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: a lay down a cushion or something. When you did 470 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: you wink at her. I would just kind of wink 471 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: and I'd fall. You know, the same thing happened on Broadway. 472 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: I was doing a play here called Irene, and they 473 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't give us two more days to rehearsal Gower Champions 474 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: going nuts. We're not quite ready or ready to open, 475 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: but we're not quite ready. So I went over to Gary. 476 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: I said, listen, Garret, if we need another two days, 477 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 1: I'll get it. He says, you can't get it. They 478 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: wore they're out of money. I said, no, no, if 479 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: I disappear, if I get sick or something happened, if 480 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: I fall, you know. He said, well, how can you 481 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: do that? I said, watch. I said, okay, let let's 482 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 1: rehearse that what first number? So we were the one 483 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: way I do the flip? So I did, and they 484 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: said all right, all right, go ahead, go ahead. Gars 485 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: looking he can't believe what I'm going to do. He 486 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: doesn't know what I'm going to do. So I run 487 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: and run forward to the wings and flip in the 488 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: air and crashed down and knock myself out. But I'm 489 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: not really out. No, So I opened one eye to 490 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: gower and winked AM and went back out. You really 491 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: aren't this wholesome? That Mazarine from Burnbank. You to me 492 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: with me? You can fool trouble day trouble, But no, 493 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: I just get a very wilful who is the director 494 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: that you loved? I really loved all the directors I 495 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: loved Hathaway through I became very dear friends and visited together. Aries, 496 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: aren't you You're an Aries? I'm Aries. I'm born April 497 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: Fool's Day. Aries is is very stubborn but very really 498 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: good person. I mean, I don't think that there's a 499 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: bad bone in the body other than our temper. That 500 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: I you're known for your temper. That's not true. But 501 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: it's not true, right, it's just if the press making 502 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: up things, you know, Oh, the press love to make 503 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: up thing. Well, luckily see, I'm not popular in this 504 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: sense for the press. I see a picture of me 505 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: going to it says I'm going to hit or push 506 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: the photographer. I'm going to help them, they might fold. 507 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm reaching to help them, or I'm reaching. Well. I 508 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: think the photographers today are terrible when they chase people. 509 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: Say they didn't do that in my day. Now, I'm 510 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: so happy I was in a golden era. They keep 511 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: calling it show business and we didn't have Papa Rozzie 512 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: like this. Speaking of which, when you say about being 513 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: an aries and I'm not big on astrology, but people 514 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: who are areas there, we say they love to bury 515 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: the hatchet and have people get along. And even though 516 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: you can have a bad temper and you can have 517 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: grudges against people, they don't laugh. You just speak up right. 518 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: You're kind of rigorously honest if we if you will, 519 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: but for you, you buried the hatchet with Hathaway and 520 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: he became a friend. You're someone that doesn't like the 521 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: hold of grudge with people. No, I don't. But I'm 522 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: rather like an elephant. I remember everything. And Debbie Reynolds 523 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: has had her share of hatchets to bury. In nineteen five, 524 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: she married singer Eddie Fisher. It was the show business 525 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: wedding of year. Four years later, Fisher famously left rentals 526 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: for her best friend Elizabeth Taylor. Soon after Taylor's husband 527 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: was killed in an airplane accident, but years later she 528 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: patched things up with Elizabeth. They had known each other 529 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: since they were kids. We were friends, we went to 530 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: school together. Elizabeth and I were kids together, and so 531 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: what happens about our relationship was out of their desire 532 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: to be together. Eddie Fisher and and she so that 533 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, when a man wants to go, he wants 534 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: to go, he goes. I've learned that that certainly. So 535 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: of course I forgave her years after that, because she 536 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: she forgave her. So marriages two and three were less public, 537 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: but no less painful for Reynolds. Now she's sworn off 538 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: the institution. In a minute, she'll talk about her daughter, 539 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: Carrie Fisher and their relationship. I'm Alec Baldwin, and you're 540 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: listening to here's the thing. This is Alec Baldwin. Carrie 541 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: Fisher's solo show, Wishful Drinking discusses her battles with substance abuse, 542 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: manic depression, and being the child of Hollywood Royalty. It's 543 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: poignant and hilarious. Having waited my entire life to get 544 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: an award for something you know anything. I don't care. 545 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: All right, fine, not acting, but what about like a 546 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: tiny one for writing? I now get awards all the 547 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: time for being mentally ill. So she is so funny. Oh, yes, 548 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: she's brilliant. She's a brilliant. The children were really little. 549 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: I was very worried about my health. I have been 550 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: on the road and I was just working like mad 551 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: in vaudeville. And I was concerned, and the children were 552 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: very all And I called up Jane Dixon, who is 553 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: a prophet and lived in Washington, and I mean she 554 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: did you know she did with the government and all 555 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: kinds of and she was it was the truth. She 556 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: was sensational. Gave me an appointment and I sat down 557 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: and she told me exactly what my children have become 558 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: and everything that happened. She told me I was married 559 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: to Harry Carl at the time. She said, when you 560 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: go home, you're going to have to face the divorce, 561 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: and he has taken all of your money. When you 562 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: go home, you will find that out. So you don't 563 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: know anything about it. I said, well, no, I I 564 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: let him take care of the money. She said, well 565 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: he is Kerry was going to be in white robes 566 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: and sand on a stage. Is the astrologer Gene Dixon 567 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: estroller just Jane Dixon, who is very world famous. Did 568 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: she predict Kennedy's assassination as well? She predicted everything? Yes, Kennedy, 569 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: Robert Kennedy and Jack Kennedy. Yes, she was very famous. 570 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: And then she Omi Todd would would be a builder 571 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: and go to architectural school, and they have exactly my 572 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: son turn architecturals. Well, he's a Bill's where does he live? 573 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: He lives in the valley around it. Yes, there are. 574 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: We all live sort of together because we adore each other. 575 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: You wrote in your book that you're unlucky in love? 576 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: Why were you unlucky in love? What do you mean? 577 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: Because I'm just too old fashioned? You know? Well, of 578 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: course I picked the wrong man, but that's because I 579 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: am easy. You know, I'm easy. I don't ever argue. 580 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you need the money here, you take it? 581 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Oh you need that? Well? Do you trust people? Well, 582 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 1: I'm very trusting. How was Carrie like you? And how 583 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: it was Carrie like Eddie? Can you see the lines that? Well, 584 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: Carrie was born with Eddie as the father, and he 585 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: was on speed. So Carrie was born was manic, depressive, bipolar, 586 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: so she will have that for the rest of alive 587 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: and it's a dread disease. Cart from him, Yes, from Eddie, 588 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: it was very sweet of him. Carrie has an illness 589 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: that is a severe problem over the whole world, and 590 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: they do not have any answers for you. She's taking 591 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 1: shock of treatments right now. It is a family's pain. 592 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: We all have it because we so want carry to 593 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 1: be well, and that's what we pray for all the time. 594 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: And she's so funny. Her daughter is divine, and she 595 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: goes to school here in New York and she's the 596 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: most beautiful young smart, really smart, and she's taking accounting. 597 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: So I think we'll be all right. She won't come 598 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: to me for about money. And Carrie's going to be fine. 599 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: She's brilliant and she's a great writer. From you, from me, 600 00:34:54,760 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: what did she get laughter? If you could give people laughter, 601 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: that would be the ideal thing. I know this is 602 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: going to sound really cliched and kind of silly, but 603 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, you come from such a great era of 604 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: movie stardom. Your name means something. When you say someone's name, 605 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: you kind of go okay, But your name, you say 606 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: a certain kind of a film, people automatically think, like 607 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: the big Golden Age of Hollywood musicals, and you and 608 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: Kelly and all these movies and Unsinkable Molly Brown and 609 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: all these great films. Even though people don't realize that 610 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: you stopped making films. I wrote this down. You stopped 611 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: making films by and large and around What's the Matter 612 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: with Helen in seventy one, and then from ninety one 613 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: to six, according to your biography, most of what you 614 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: do is voiceovers or retrospective releases, like that's entertainment. You know. 615 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: You don't work a lot during that period in films. 616 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: I just do nightclubs. I work theater. I would do 617 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: a club act o were forty two weeks a year 618 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: every day. Where would you go? Everywhere? Colorado, Texas, Yes, Australia, England. 619 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: I did uh five a day in England. So I 620 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: came a vaudevillion for twenty years to make a living 621 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: from my children. And then and then you go and 622 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: do the movie with Albert Brooks. Yes, I did. Mother. 623 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: He convinced you to do that movie. No, Carrie called me, 624 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: she's a mother. I read a script Albert Brooks, who 625 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: they were very good friends did and it's so funny. 626 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: You have to do it. I said, well, you know, 627 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: nobody wants me for movies anymore, Dear. She said, well, mother, 628 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: I want you to fly up here. I was in 629 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: Vegas and I owned a little hotel and I had 630 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: a nightclub and I was happy as a hog in heaven. 631 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: So she said, well, no, I don't care, mother, you 632 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: have to fly. So I flew in and I met 633 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: Albert and I read a scene for him and he 634 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: said to me, you've got it. And I said what 635 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: does that mean, Albert? He said, well, you've got it. 636 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: You've you've got the part. I said, Albert, I have 637 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: to meet the director. Oh I am the director, Debbie. 638 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know, Albert, I said, because you know 639 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: I know him since he's a young boy. And then 640 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: I said, well you have to see the producer, then, dear, 641 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: you can't just suddenly hire Debbie. Well, I yes I can. 642 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: I'm the producer. I'm the producer, I'm the director. I 643 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: wrote it. And yes, you're going to do it, I said, Albert, 644 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: you'll get into trouble. He said, no, you really are 645 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: going to get it now, because you're bossing me. Now, 646 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 1: you're just like my mother. So you've got the Parker. Sure, 647 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: can you eat lamb chops? What the hell is a lamb? 648 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: It's meat. I told you I don't eat it. That's 649 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 1: not a cow. I didn't know it was the animal. 650 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: You were siding with the whole thing. It's a whole thing. 651 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: Wasn't cheese. Albert was first with if he wanted Doris today, 652 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: but she just wouldn't do it because she would have 653 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 1: been terrific. But as we all know, Doris doesn't want 654 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: to go back on the screen. And I didn't want 655 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: to because I was in Vegas and I was running 656 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: my hotel and I was having a lot of trouble 657 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: with my husband and he wanted to, you know, take 658 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: over my business and throw me over the balcony. And 659 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 1: I was having a lot of problems. But I left 660 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: and I did the movie Mother, and I'm happy I did. 661 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: I think it made a lot of films and a 662 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: lot of TV shows since then. Will and Grace did 663 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: you play well? What do you mean? I played Grace's mother. 664 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: You were Grace's mom Adler. Her name was Adler and 665 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: so she sang a lot, did impressions. It was a 666 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: lot of fun to do. And the you have you 667 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: stopped the club actor, you're still doing that. You still 668 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: I still do my club act. I've been under the 669 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: weather for about four months, so I've been kind of 670 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: taking it easy and getting my health back. Contest. And 671 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: you look fantastic, well you have. You look gorgeous. You 672 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: give me me my birthday party. You look beautiful. Thank you, dear, 673 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: and I wish you all the happiness with your new 674 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: wife and a baby to camp. Your life is all 675 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: ahead of you. I love my baby so much. And 676 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: even though they're all grown in your age, practically, you know, 677 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: there's nothing like it. This is so special. I'm really 678 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: looking forward, you know when I think of you and 679 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: you being part of that, you know, great era of 680 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: studio filmmaking. Did you ever watch your stuff that you 681 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: did you ever go back and watch those films you 682 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: don't bother? Well, some of the films I watch everybody 683 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: else's films. Betty Davis so I loved her and Katherine hepburnna. 684 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: I love when you watch a movie, you watch a 685 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: movie from back then? Oh, yes, I only watch all 686 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: movies you don't go to see. You don't exactly so 687 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: You don't go see movies today, not really don't, not 688 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: even screeners from the Academy or DVDs at homes. If 689 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: someone tells me it's really wonderful, I'll go. Like Titanic, 690 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: you'd watch or something. No I did go to see. 691 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: No I I did that movie. No I, I just 692 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: did a film with It was about Liberaci behind the Candelabra, 693 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: Michael Douglas, Michael Douglas and uh, that'll be out soon. 694 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: I played Mrs Lieberacci and because I like to do 695 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: di election, and I knew Mrs Libaraci and I knew Lee. 696 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: We were working a now very good friend. Yes, we 697 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: were really dear friends. And he always called me up 698 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: after the show and we go out together and he said, 699 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: were white, all white Danby and your jewelry. And then 700 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: he'd arrived in the limousine with the chauffeur's hat on 701 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: and he drive me. I mean, he was so much fun. 702 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: I loved Libaracci was great, So I did his mother. 703 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 1: How was Soderberg to work with? Did you like Soderberg? Oh, 704 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: he was wonderful. The director was wonderful director. I just 705 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: had a little part, you know, And she had any 706 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: she well, she was. The only thing is dialected to 707 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: be real, and you have to do doon when you're 708 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: doing their dialect is Polish, and so you have to 709 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 1: talk about really the really one And to me unbelievable 710 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: because I am very good at dialects. I love to 711 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: do them. You know what's amazing to me is you 712 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: still enjoy doing this. You still love this? Yes, even 713 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: though this is something that you came into almost accidentally. 714 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: You know, you won the contest and you went over 715 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: to Warner and we want you to be in the 716 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: movie business. And you laughed when they said that. And 717 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: yet here you are when you were sixteen years old, 718 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: and now you're eighty one years old, sixty five years later. 719 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: You still enjoy doing this, don't you. Absolutely? If you're 720 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: blessed enough to be able to have something to do 721 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 1: that you love. Besides marriages, I mean, that's the only 722 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: thing that's been a disappointment to me in my life. Honey, 723 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: you're looking at the man you should have married. Here, 724 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: it's me here I am. I wouldn't have stolen your money, 725 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: will you? And I would be home right now watching 726 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: Turner classic movies, eat popcorn. I'll be giving you a 727 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: foot rub. I have a wonderful life, I really do. 728 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: God bless everybody. I really am very Another thing you 729 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: have and you don't have to confirm us, but I 730 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: bet you I know another thing you have, which is 731 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: when you meet people you're fans. I bet you they 732 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 1: just love you. They're my friends. Are not my fans? 733 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: You know, everybody I meet, I just feel like I 734 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: know them sixty five years and they made me, they 735 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 1: gave me my work, and they stay by me all 736 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: these years. You know, I work in Vegas all the time, 737 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: and I work in Laughlin, which is called is in Nevada? Right, Yeah, 738 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: anywhere there's a job I work. You enjoy doing it 739 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: live that way? How long is your show? Sure? The 740 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: whole act of our hour and a half an hour 741 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: and a half. I do a lot of comedy. Well, 742 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean I try it to. They make it funny. 743 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: Let me end with this. Acting for me is very strange. 744 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: Now I'm kind of done with it, you know. I mean, 745 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: I don't think I want to do it much longer. 746 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: And the world has changed now, as you well know, 747 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: it's very different. The way is that your phone? I 748 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: think it is your phone? Where is my isn't that odd? Yeah? 749 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: Where's Oh? But what you're listening to? Taking her phone up? 750 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: It's my it's my son. Yes, I never turned this 751 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: is now taking out all the akuchum on her little asia. 752 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: But I don't. I can't find this. You can't find it. 753 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: Let's find it here. It is there, it is well, 754 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: and this is this is how my son was born, 755 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: nine pounds three ounces. Took a long time to get 756 00:43:53,120 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: it out. I was nine. Hello, good heavens it's hard 757 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: to find. Can you say it again? Hello? Did I 758 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: get you too late? That's the story of my life, 759 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: isn't it must be a man? Well, I'm going to 760 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: hang up now. I'm visiting with Alec Baldwin. He's a 761 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: big star. Yes, he's in Broadway, lives in New York. 762 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: Just got married again, a young girl. They always pick 763 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: him younger. Yeah, I'm might as well. That's one thing 764 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: that hasn't changed. Yeah, then nothing has changed. Now. What 765 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: I want to say to you is, I've been doing 766 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: this and I wanted to say I'd love to work 767 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: with you one day. I've not anytime. I'd love to 768 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: work with you one day. If there's a movie and 769 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: there's a partner for you to play my crazy aunt. 770 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: Will you come in? There'd be fun to do the 771 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: crazy ant or the street lady or anybody you like that. 772 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: I like to do characters where I could fake. Debbie 773 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: Reynolds has a new book, Unsinkable, and she has a 774 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: huge collection of Hollywood memorabilia that you too can have 775 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: a piece of. I'm selling it online. So if thank 776 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 1: Debbie Reynolds. What Debbie mill studio store dot com. Debbie 777 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 1: Reynolds studio store dot com. You're selling lots of wonderful things. 778 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to go buy something on there. Okay, Charlie 779 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: Chaplin's hat, how about that reel hat? Is any of 780 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 1: your underwear for sale online? No? But if you really 781 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: want it, Babby, I'll give it to you. We're done 782 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: branding there by. This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening 783 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: to here's the thing.