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Speaker 1: Joshua what he warn at each week on this show,

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Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you bran new mind blowing content, news exercises,

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Speaker 1: lot more. On this edition of the show. I bought

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Speaker 1: a gargoyle and here's what happened. He's sitting right in

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Speaker 1: front of me right now. I'm looking at him, and

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Speaker 1: he is a wicked looking little dude. Let me try

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Speaker 1: to describe him. He is about six inches tall and

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Speaker 1: he is made of I don't know, some kind of

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Speaker 1: I actually have him in my left hand right now.

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Speaker 1: So you know how all gargoyles they look like little

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Speaker 1: well maybe not all, but many of them look like

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Speaker 1: little devils. And so he's sitting there. He's got pointy ears,

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Speaker 1: and he's got big curled horns and bat wings, and

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Speaker 1: he has these penetrating eyes with these arched eyebrows, kind

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Speaker 1: bit like a chimpanzees. And he's just resting his chin

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Speaker 1: something you might say, and um, a very intimidating looking

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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, I know that, uh, you

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Speaker 1: probably want a picture, so maybe I'll post one on

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Speaker 1: my Twitter account for you instead of trying to describe

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Speaker 1: this guy. My Twitter, of course, is just at Joshua

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Speaker 1: website Joshua pee Warren dot com. Okay, so why do

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Speaker 1: I have a gargoyle sitting in front of me? And

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Speaker 1: what has he done for me? What's the story? Here.

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Speaker 1: What has happened? Well, first off, I just want to

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Speaker 1: a long time, you know that I lived in year

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Speaker 1: It has been witnessed by dozens of people over the years.

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Speaker 1: that somebody claims they took of the gargula. I've always

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Speaker 1: In architecture, specifically Gothic architecture, the gargoyle is a carved

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Speaker 1: had people who would come from all over the country

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Speaker 1: and participate in that. And the thing about the old

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00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: Smith McDowell House is that, um, it's haunted apparently by

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Speaker 1: a little girl. We're not sure who she is, but

433
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people have seen a little girl. And

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00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: I actually was. I I hosted a ghost hunt at

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00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: the Smith mcdoell House, oh about thirteen years ago for

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00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: a celebrity, Kelly Pickler, the country singer. She was big

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00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: on American Idol. She's a television personality. Kelly Pickler came

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00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: to Asheville and the local radio station there five seventy

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00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: w W n C and and and their affiliates. They

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00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: asked me if I would take Kelly Pickler on a

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00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: ghost hunt. And so my team and I took Kelly

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00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: Pickler to the Smith McDowell House for a night and

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00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: we had a blast. I mean, she was just the sweetest, loveliest,

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00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: most humble person and she was just having a great time.

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00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: We all had a lot of fun. Dean Worsing was

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00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: there that night. Dean Worsing brought a little rubber ball

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00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: like a kid would play with, and he would set

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00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: that thing down in a room and we would dim

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00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: the lights. We'd start asking the little girl to play

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00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: with the ball and it would start rolling around. As

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00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, there's video of this on YouTube.

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00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: If you go to YouTube and you just do a

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Speaker 1: search for Kelly Pickler ghost hunt. Her first name is

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Speaker 1: spelled k E L l I E and then Pickler.

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00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: You know p I C K L E. R. Kelly

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00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: Pickler ghost Hunt. You'll see some clips that. Um. Then

457
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: Kelly Pickler's channel posted from that from that investigation. So, um,

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00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: it's a really interesting place for a number of reasons.

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00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: But we've we've never been exactly sure why it was

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00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: so haunted. I mean, we'd heard that there were you know,

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00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: there there were servants there that were mistreated and all

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00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Well, I got a message just

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00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: days ago from a researcher named Rebecca and she found

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00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: this article that was published in a newspaper called The

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00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: Asheville Messenger onto some forty and here's what it says.

466
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: Suicide on Sunday evening, a man whose name, from papers

467
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: found in his possession is supposed to be Robert B.

468
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: Hamilton's put an end to his earthly existence at the

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00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: house of James M. Smith. That's the guy, James McConnell

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00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: Smith in this village, by hanging himself with his pocket

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00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: handkerchief fastened to the bedpost. What could have induced him

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00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: to commit this rash act and thus rush unbidden into

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00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: the presence of his maker. He has left no clue

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00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: by which we can ascertain or even conjecture. Funny how

475
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: they wrote back then, isn't It goes on to say

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00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: he came to the house of Mr Smith on Saturday

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00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: evening in the southern stage, complained of being indisposed posed,

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00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: and went to a private room, where he remained until

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00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: he tied the fatal noose on the next evening. From

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00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: papers found in his possession, it is supposed he had

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00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: heretofore resided in Abbeyville, South Carolina, and that he had

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00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: recently been at Spartanburg, and he had with him about

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00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: one hundred fifty dollars in money and copies of notes

484
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: supposed to have been placed in the hands of some

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00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: person for collection to the amount of about sixteen hundred dollars,

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00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: which are in the hands of Mr Smith. So I

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00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: sent that to Vance Pollock, Sherlock Pollock, and he is

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00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: the best forensic historian I've ever met. And uh, Vance says, yeah,

489
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: this looks like it's that's him. So I don't recall

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00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: ever having proof of a suicide at the Smith mcdwellhouse before,

491
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: but there it is. Asheville Messenger, December Christmas Day of

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00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: eighteen forty on page three. How do you like that

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00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: I did a really interesting experiment at the Smith McDowell

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00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: House because one of the things that people would always

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00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 1: experience there, uh, we're batteries running down. I cannot tell

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00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: you how many times my team and I would go

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00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: in there, and I don't care if we were using

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00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: walkie talkies or video cameras or whatever, we had. Something

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00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: paranormal would start happening and then boom, the batteries would

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00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: get zapped. And when people would come and do our

501
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: ghost hunts, the same thing would happen. These strange people

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00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: who would come from all over the country. They would

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00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: just be walking around shooting video and boom, it would

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00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: stop working, you know, the camera, the battery. And so

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00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: I always wonder, what is this phenomenon about. Is it

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00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: possible that when a ghost or something like that is

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00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: going to materialize that it it needs energy from somewhere,

508
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: so it taps into a battery and drains that energy.

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00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: Is that possible that that's what's happening. So I did

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00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: really interesting experiment. I took a little battery powered fan.

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00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: I did this back in two thousand six, I think, yeah,

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00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: two thousand six. I took a fan that was powered

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00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: by two double a batteries, and I set it up

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00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: in front of a camera and I let it run,

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00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: and I recorded the entire duration of how long it ran,

516
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: right down to the second. It ran for one hour

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00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: and thirty eight minutes and then it stopped. I put

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00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: that exact and I did I did that at my

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00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: home as a control. I took that exact same set

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00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: up to the basement of the Smith McDowell house, where

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00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: batteries were draining all the time. I set everything up,

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00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: left it alone, and guess what. In that case, I

523
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: got the exact same result. The motor ran for one

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00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: hour and thirty eight minutes. Now, granted there were some

525
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 1: slight variations, but not much. The temperature was the same

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00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: in both locations. And I did this only days apart.

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00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: So what can we conclude from this? I don't know.

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00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: But but what I can tell you is that when

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00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: I did this at my house as a control, I

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00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: left it alone. And when I did this at the

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00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: Smith pick dollhouse as a control or what it was,

532
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: as an as an experiment, I left it alone. So

533
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the parapsychologists are right that for ghostly

534
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: things to start happening, for there to be an exchange

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00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: of energy. You're better off if you have people there

536
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: in the mix interacting with things. That's not the case

537
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: all the time, but in many cases it may be

538
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: that you need to have a person there to somehow interfere.

539
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: I did not repeat that experiment, but I I'm I'm

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00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: wondering if you can do something like that. I can't

541
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: do everything. I have too much stuff going on, especially

542
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: at this time in my life. But it's an easy

543
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: experiment to do. Set up a camera, put a fan

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00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: there with the clock right behind time it, and you know,

545
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: in your living room or some control location, and then

546
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: take it somewhere that's supposed to be paranormally active and

547
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: do it and see if you can get it to

548
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: slow down the rate of the battery flow or somehow

549
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: affect that battery charge um by your presence. You see,

550
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: somehow ghosts in the environment and ourselves all work together

551
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: and all interact. But we still don't know exactly how

552
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 1: it works. I got an email I want to read

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00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: to you, though, from a guy who said, I love

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00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: the show and I've been wanting to tell you for

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00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: a long time about what happened to my mom. This

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00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: is a listener in Canada, and actually I've got a

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00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: couple of other really cool emails. I'm gonna try to

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Speaker 1: squeeze in here. I'm Joshua B. Warren. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: Strange Things on the I R Radio and Coast to

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Speaker 1: Coast AM baron normal podcast network. I'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: That's Coast to Coast AM dot com. Welcome back, to

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Speaker 1: the final segment of this edition of Strange Things on

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Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a AM

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Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network. I'm your host, Joshua pe Warren, and

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00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: I received this email from Frank in Ontario, Canada. He says,

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Speaker 1: you absolutely rock. I love listening to you. I dig

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00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: your humor. I've been following you for quite a while

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00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: and you never disappoint Wow. Thank you, Frank. What a

582
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: nice way to start a message. I appreciate that, and

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00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: I like that you dig my sense of humor because

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00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people do not get it. So anyway,

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00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: Frank goes on to say, I have a story for you.

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00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: My mom is a Jehovah's witness and I was raised

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00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: in that religion but left at sixteen. Is having said that,

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00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: my mom tells of a worry when I think I

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00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: was six years old. My father worked at General Motors

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00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: and that week worked the afternoon shift, so he would

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00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: come home around eleven pm. My mom would visit the

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00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: farm next to us as we became friends, and I

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00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: would play with their son, Joey. But that week, Joey's

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00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: mother came to visit my mom at our house. Oh

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00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: and a side note, Joey's mom was known to be

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00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: a fortune teller in Hungary and uh So, anyway, he says,

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00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: this is interesting how he writes this. But he says,

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00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: when this woman will come to visit, my mom preached

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00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: to her and my but my mom would let her

600
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: smoke in the house. You gotta remember this is like

601
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: the early seventies. So he says, my mom had what

602
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: she said could only be the reason of what she

603
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: left behind where her smoke butts. So my mom did

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00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: her thing, and they talked and they did whatever, and

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00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: Joey's mom left. Well, that night, my mother heard around

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00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: the door in the back of the house open. Now,

607
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: when you came into the back of the house, he

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00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: would walk up three stairs into the kitchen and turn

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00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: right going down the hall to go right to my

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00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: parents bedroom, and if you went left, it would go

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00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: to the kid's bedroom. So after hearing the door opened,

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00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: my mother assumed it was my father coming up the stairs.

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00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: She heard big, heavy feet, a lot of heavy breathing.

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00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: My mom slept with her back towards the door. So

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00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: the heavy footsteps coming down the hall were very very heavy,

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00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: my mama says, And they came into the room beside

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Speaker 1: the bed, and my mother says, dear, what are you doing?

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00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: And then it was like a handprint that pressed down

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00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: her shoulder all the way down to her elbow and

620
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: pressed her into the bed to the point that it

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00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: hurt her her pushed her deep into the bed, and

622
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: she looked around to see if it was my dad,

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00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: and she says there was no one there, and she

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00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: tells of how she prayed to God, and then all

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00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: she heard was three or four steps running away, running

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00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: from the bed, almost as if something ran and jumped

627
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: the fly away, that's her words. And then nothing. And

628
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: then fifteen seconds later the back door opened again and

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00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: it was my father this time. The story gives me

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00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: the creeps to this day. As a child up till

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Speaker 1: I left home, I've had so many instances that were

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00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: unexplained and very scary. All the best, well, well, thank you, Frank.

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00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: I guess the you know, the idea here is that

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00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: maybe the fortune teller brought some kind of energy over

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00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: into your house right that your mom found disagreeable. It

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00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: reminds me of what I was saying earlier in the

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00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: show though, right about something coming into your bedroom that

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00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: freaks you out. That is some freaky stuff. Okay, how

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00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: about this one? This comes to me from Gary, He

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00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: says Mr Warren. I'm currently listening to the first couple

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00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: episodes of Strange Things on Spotify at work, and when

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00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: I heard you speak about parasim atics, my interest was

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Speaker 1: piqued and I was compelled to write you. By the way,

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Speaker 1: when I first listened to the tone of the one

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Speaker 1: dollar Bill, I had some fortuitous manifestations. I've heard you

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Speaker 1: on coast to coast before and heard your name a

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00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: few times here and there, but I had not realized

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Speaker 1: just what you were onto. I've been researching ruins, symbology, mythology,

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Speaker 1: et cetera for years now. I'm just a mechanic with

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Speaker 1: some quirky interests, and I read about these subjects in

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Speaker 1: search of the truth. Manifestation, interdimensional portals, lost knowledge, ancent

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Speaker 1: civilizations as a visual representation. I enjoy the Marvel film

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Speaker 1: Doctor Strange as an illustration of magic. The explanation as

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Speaker 1: fairly accurate as I see things as well. I don't

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Speaker 1: mean it's a literal depiction, of course, It's just a

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00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: good representation of concentrating and imagining the symbols that helped

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Speaker 1: to focus the energies of the universe to manifest and

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Speaker 1: conjure things. There are many ways to depict these symbols runes, pictograms,

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Speaker 1: Mandola's mudras. There are representations of energy such as sound waves, light,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. And what I'm getting about it. What I'm

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Speaker 1: getting at here is have you applied parasit matics to

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Speaker 1: various symbols to explore what tones they create at what frequencies?

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Speaker 1: I believe that translating symbols into sounds the frequencies may

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Speaker 1: have an effect on energy or matter, especially if used together.

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Speaker 1: Think of the seven tones produced by the pillars of

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Speaker 1: the Hindu Temple. Have you ever fed the various tones

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Speaker 1: that astronomers have picked up into symatic devices to explore

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Speaker 1: perhaps what symbols are formed. I have many thoughts, questions,

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Speaker 1: and theories I'd love to pick your brain about, but

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Speaker 1: you're a busy guy, so hopefully I'm steering you an

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00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: interesting direction. Thank you for that message, Gary, And yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I have done all that. Um. I created parasymatics as

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Speaker 1: a a form of taking sounds and turning them into images,

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Speaker 1: but then I advanced that into parasymatics two point oh,

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Speaker 1: in which I take images and turn them into sounds.

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Speaker 1: And I will just tell you I have a lot

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Speaker 1: more coming out this year about my sigil work. I'm

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00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: just so swamped. But if you want the latest, all

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Speaker 1: you have to do right now is go to Joshua P.

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Speaker 1: Warren dot com. On the homepage, you can scroll down

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00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: and you will see right now some sigils listed there

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Speaker 1: and under it and yellow letters, it says update. For

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00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: a complete list of new sigils, click here. And if

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00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: you click that where it says for a complete list

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Speaker 1: of new sigils, click here. That will take you to

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Speaker 1: the big page that's got everything about parasi matics and

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00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: paris imatics two point oh, where I'm doing all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I will have some big announcements later this year,

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00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: at least I planned to. For those of you who

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Speaker 1: follow me through my free e newsletter. I have some

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Speaker 1: brand new sigil stuff and parasimatic stuff I'm gonna be releasing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me try to squeeze one more in here from David.

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Speaker 1: He says, on September six one, I started experiencing a

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Speaker 1: very annoying problem that persisted all day every day. It

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00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: was related to another nagging problem of several years duration.

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Speaker 1: So on October I loaded the psionic de materializer with

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Speaker 1: the annoying problem. Blum, Now, let me pause. He's talking

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Speaker 1: about something called the bad buster that I have my

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Speaker 1: curiosity shop, and he says the bad buster. Psionic de

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Speaker 1: materializer worked again. I loaded it with my problem, and

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Speaker 1: two days later I was inspired to start walking daily,

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00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: but to minor help. After a few weeks it was

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00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: fifty percent better. But I was then inspired to totally

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Speaker 1: quit a five year habit of two or three twenty

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Speaker 1: ounce SODA's a day. That was the answer. Just eighteen

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Speaker 1: days later, the problem was gone, and by December two

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Speaker 1: it was gone. On December I was so satisfied with

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Speaker 1: the result, I removed and trashed the paper note and

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Speaker 1: returned the psionic de materializer to its box. As of

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Speaker 1: December thirty one, the annoying problem and the years long

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Speaker 1: nagging are both one hundred percent gone. I do not

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Speaker 1: want the sodas anymore. It worked again. Thank you, David. David.

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Speaker 1: I am so happy to hear that. And you know

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. I know that when you when I

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Speaker 1: talk about some of this crazy sounding stuff on this show,

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Speaker 1: a lot of it's free. Some of it you know,

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Speaker 1: you have to go to my Curiosity Shop to buy it,

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Speaker 1: but I tell people you buy it and if you

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Speaker 1: if if this doesn't work for you, you have a

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Speaker 1: one percent money back guarantee. I'm providing this for you

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Speaker 1: this because it worked for me, and I'm hoping it

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Speaker 1: works somehow for you, and so uh, it would be

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Speaker 1: a pretty poor decision if I had to give everybody

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Speaker 1: a refund, right, So no. I put these out there

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00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: because they're experimental. I can't explain how they work. But

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Speaker 1: when stuff works for me, I share it with all

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Speaker 1: of you. So thank you, David, and congratulations. Here's something

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Speaker 1: free that works for a lot of people. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people look forward to this every single week. It

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Speaker 1: is the good Fortune tone. Take a deep breath, if

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Speaker 1: you can, close your eyes, and hopefully this tone will

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Speaker 1: make your next week the best one ever. That's it

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Speaker 1: for this edition of the show. Follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Joshua pee Warren. Plus visit Joshua pee Warren dot

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Speaker 1: Cool Stuff and the Curiosity Shop. All at Joshua P.

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Speaker 1: Warren dot com. I have a fun one lined up

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Speaker 1: for you next time, I promise, so please tell all

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Speaker 1: your friends to subscribe to this show and who always

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Speaker 1: remember the Golden rule. Thank you for listening, thank you

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Speaker 1: for your interest in support, thank you for staying curious,

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Speaker 1: and I we'll talk to you again soon. You've been

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Speaker 1: listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and

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Speaker 1: if you like this episode of Strange Things, wait till

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