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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories, and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Today we're talking about one of the most important aspects

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Speaker 1: of hunting white tails, and that's scouting. Specifically, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about summer scouting. This conversation is jam packed with helpful

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Speaker 1: tips and great stories, so stick around and enjoy low

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Speaker 1: Fellow white tail addicts, and welcome to the Wired to

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Speaker 1: Hunt podcast. With me this afternoon is my trustee beverage

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Speaker 1: sipping buddy and co host Dan Johnson, and joining us

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Speaker 1: today is well no one. Actually, for once here in

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Speaker 1: a long while, we do not have a guest, so Tan,

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Speaker 1: it's just you and me, just two dudes growing out.

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Speaker 1: That's all we're gonna do today, just throwing out. We're

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Speaker 1: not talking deer, We're just talking tank tops, cold beer,

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Speaker 1: and the bastard boys, right hair gel v net T shirts. Yep, yep,

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Speaker 1: that's us. No, we're actually gonna talk, dear, But how

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Speaker 1: have you been. I've been pretty good. Uh, like uh,

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Speaker 1: most parents are, like most guys with kids my daughter's age,

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Speaker 1: I feel like all I do is chase after a

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Speaker 1: little kid. So I spent a lot of time, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to think of ways to keep her occupied, corralled

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Speaker 1: um asleep you know. Um, I know, roofying your own children.

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Speaker 1: It's a bad thing, but I honestly have thought about it.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't up, she does not she she wakes up,

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Speaker 1: and then it's bibby boom oh man. I uh, I

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Speaker 1: can't really relate since I don't have any children on

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Speaker 1: my own, but I've seen enough to know it would

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Speaker 1: stress me out. Yeah, but but there's there definitely some

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Speaker 1: great things about kids. So I'm good. Let me cut

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Speaker 1: you off right there. You'd better be good because our

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Speaker 1: very old Mark Kenyon just recently won an award. What

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Speaker 1: the quality of your management association gathering down in down South?

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Speaker 1: Yes that's true down in Athens, Georgia. Why don't you

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Speaker 1: elaborate on that a little bit? Well? I I was really, um,

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Speaker 1: very surprised and humbled and honored to have been given

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Speaker 1: the two fourteen cut May Communicator of the Year award.

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Speaker 1: Um so so yeah, it was very very surprise and

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Speaker 1: very exciting. I was down there in Georgia for the

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Speaker 1: national convention, and yeah, one of the big gatherings. They

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Speaker 1: kind of surprised me. We're talking about a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of different people that were great communicators and journalists and

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Speaker 1: whatnot in the field and what they've done too, you know,

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Speaker 1: spread the good word about white tales and quality deer

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Speaker 1: management and whatnot, and somehow they fared out was the

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Speaker 1: one for the two thousand fourteen So it's pretty neat.

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Speaker 1: That's that is pretty cool. And on a serious note,

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Speaker 1: I know, like I know, we like to joke around

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Speaker 1: and stuff, but what you're doing for the sport of

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Speaker 1: hunting and white tales in general is very good. It's

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Speaker 1: a very good thing. And it's spreading the word through

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Speaker 1: you know, your social media, the blog and all that

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Speaker 1: stuff only helps you know the game, as I like

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Speaker 1: to say, as a whole. And uh so, I'm very

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Speaker 1: proud of you, Mark, Thank you so much. I appreciate that,

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Speaker 1: I really do. And it's been it's been great. All

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Speaker 1: the readers and our audience members and fans and everything

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Speaker 1: have been so supportive. I just appreciate all kind words

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Speaker 1: and and you know, like I mentioned in a blog

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Speaker 1: given that award if it weren't for everyone else out

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Speaker 1: there that's been following Wired to Hunt. It's been following

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Speaker 1: my my writing, my articles, this podcast, our videos, everything

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Speaker 1: I've done. It wouldn't be worth a hoot if it

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Speaker 1: me feedback and support and ideas, told me when I

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Speaker 1: sound like an idiot. Um, it's all helped. So I uh,

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Speaker 1: I just want to thank everyone else it's been. It's

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Speaker 1: been an awesome ride, and this is another neat um

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Speaker 1: neat honor, and I can't wait to see where you know,

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Speaker 1: things might go from here. This guy's a limit true story,

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Speaker 1: true story. So so yeah. Other than that, though I've

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Speaker 1: been super busy. I was, like I said, down there

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Speaker 1: had a buddy's bachelor party. If anybody watches the Wired

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Speaker 1: I remember the last Bachelor party I was on and uh,

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Speaker 1: it's probably a good place to stop. We we had

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Speaker 1: a busy, busy summer. But now I'm back. I've got

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Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of what we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be stressed out once we get to

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Speaker 1: late summer. But here we are almost August, and I

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Speaker 1: still feel like I've got ton to do. It just

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Speaker 1: happens without fail. But what we want to talk about

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Speaker 1: today is part of that work, and that being summer scouting.

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Speaker 1: And you know some are scouting can come in a

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Speaker 1: lot of different forms and you can be used for

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Speaker 1: those different types of scouting could be, you know, what

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Speaker 1: different ideas, tips and lessons learned maybe that we've taken

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Speaker 1: over the years that you might be all help folks

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Speaker 1: What do you think? I think, God, that's a good idea. Awesome,

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Speaker 1: So what do you think about kicking things off here

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Speaker 1: a couple of hours. But I'm curious Dan for you, you

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Speaker 1: your purpose for doing any type of scouting during the

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Speaker 1: summertime months. Well, I think the majority of the summer

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to find where they're coming, and then

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Speaker 1: Jason box. Yeah, Okay, that sounds like you're right in

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Speaker 1: I would break it down into you know, three larger categories,

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Speaker 1: But I want to understand, you know, what specific deer

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Speaker 1: I can get that information now and you know better understand,

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Speaker 1: and you know, get some identifiers, but these unique deer,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna help me make decisions when I'm actually hunting.

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Speaker 1: Calm October and November a lot faster. UM. In a

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Speaker 1: perfect situation, I'd like to see a deer, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I can get that information now in the summer,

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Speaker 1: time of year, UM, and maybe I'll I'll throw those

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Speaker 1: hear about what you're doing, and then we can dive

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Speaker 1: into each of these deeper. If that sounds good, yep,

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Speaker 1: go for it. So high level my three types of

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of different things we can talk in

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Speaker 1: get some information from that. And then number three, some

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Speaker 1: actual in the field scouting, UM, what some people call

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Speaker 1: speed scouting or speed touring, doing some some later in

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Speaker 1: and quietly to get some some intels, most recent information

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Speaker 1: about what's happening. So for me, that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: my summer scouting regiment will look like. UM is balance

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Speaker 1: between those three types of things. UM, what about you,

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Speaker 1: You're You're you doing the same things? Are you doing

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Speaker 1: totally different things? Do I sound crazy? Well? All right,

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Speaker 1: So on some of my properties, um, I don't do

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't happen. So that's why we try to,

429
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, throw those trail cameras out there and uh

430
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: and get those uh try to get as many pictures

431
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: of them as we can. But you know, a trail

432
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: camera can only cover uh, you know area. Yeah, it's

433
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: funny you mentioned that too, because actually while I was

434
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: down there at the Kitty May National Convention and one

435
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: of the one of the seminars I went to was

436
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: about buck movements and specifically what they call excursions. And

437
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 1: this took a look at. I think it was well,

438
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: I think it was six different studies research studies UM

439
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: done in the past four years where they actually did

440
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: what you just said. They put a radio collar or

441
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: GPS tracking collar on deer, bucks and in one case

442
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: doze as well, and they tracked where these deer went

443
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: for months of the time, all day, every day, and UM,

444
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: it found some really interesting information. But what these um,

445
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: what this seminar was about, was the idea of these

446
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: excursions and the fact that, UM, what's been found is

447
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: that the majority of deer will take at least one,

448
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: in many cases a few more excursions well outside of

449
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: their home range. And uh, their home range is the

450
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: area And I'm I might get these numbers wrong, um

451
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: because some varying definitions of this, but I believe the

452
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: technical definition in most cases of a deer or buck

453
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: home range is the area where they spend something like

454
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: of their time. That let's say a little circle around

455
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: his main area is his home range the time he's there.

456
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: Then there's the core area, which is something like the

457
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: area he spends fifty of his time and that's a

458
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: much smaller area, UM, if I remember correctly, typically that

459
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: core that core range is something like it varies, but

460
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: somewhere in the you know, hundred acres to three acres

461
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: or somewhere around there, it's a smaller region. And then

462
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: the home range can be you know, a mile plus

463
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: kind of circle. And what they found though, is, like

464
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: I mentioned, these radio collar studies and GPS tracking stitues

465
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: have shown that these bucks often are taking completely seemingly

466
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: random excursions you know, one to you know, seven miles

467
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: away from their home range a couple of times a year. UM.

468
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: Very interesting. They had some studies done in the spring

469
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: showing that these studies are happening in the spring and summer,

470
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: and they're also happening in the fall, which is kind

471
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: of counterintuitive because I would have assumed that, sure, I know,

472
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: these bucks are probably going outside of their their main

473
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: areas during the rut during the fall, chasing dose and stuff.

474
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: But interestingly, they're also happening outside of the rut, so

475
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: there wasn't necessarily any concrete conclusions as to what they

476
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: were doing. There's different hypotheses about me they're looking for

477
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: mineral sources or different food sources. Uh, and then during

478
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: the fall they did find or they believe that a

479
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: lot of those excursions, those travels and roaming behaviors were

480
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: associated with the rut and finding does and whatnot. But

481
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: I guess it's a really long way of saying, there's

482
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: some really interesting stuff going on. Like you said that,

483
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: I would love to know more about. But we're just

484
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: barely starting to touch the surface of of why and

485
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: what these deer are doing. It's fascinating. Yeah, what's crazy

486
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: is in Iowa where I hunt, other than the occasional

487
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: coyote attack, and I don't think in the area that

488
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: I hunt, coyote is going to take down a full

489
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: grown buck. All right, So imagine a deer that does

490
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: not get hunted. Let's say there's no hunting. Okay, they

491
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: don't really have any predators they need to worry about.

492
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: So my opinion is I believe these deer just get

493
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: bored and they do the same thing every day for

494
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: a while, and then they're just like, al right, well,

495
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: I've been sitting on my butt way too long. I

496
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. Let's go this way and

497
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: check out. You know. I think there's a cure curiosity

498
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: standpoint that and not just not just deer hab but

499
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: all animals, you know, they there's randomness, just like humans.

500
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: You know, even my dad, he's he is, he does

501
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: the same thing every day. And I when I mean

502
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: every day, I mean Saturday and Sunday. They'll wake up,

503
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: they'll go to work, they'll come home for lunch, he'll

504
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: take a nap, he'll go back to work, he'll come

505
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: home from work, he'll take a nap, and then he

506
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: goes to bed. And for the most part, he does

507
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: that every other day. And then one day my dad

508
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: calls me up and goes, hey, what are you doing.

509
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: I don't I'm just watching the World Series. He goes,

510
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm in the front row at the World Series. So

511
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: and I believe bucks do that same thing. Not comparing

512
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: my dad to a buck, but you know, uh, they

513
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: they get bored and they want to explore, and they

514
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: want to find out what else is in the area.

515
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: You know, maybe even you know, checking those areas that

516
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: have community scrapes laying they're sent down, uh, letting other

517
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: bucks know that hey I am here. Uh, don't get

518
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 1: it twisted. Yeah, No, I think there's probably a lot

519
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: of truth that I think you're your world serious theory

520
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: makes less sense. Uh. All right. That said, then moving

521
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: on maybe to the next general topic, which which ties

522
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: into a lot of things we were talked about. But

523
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: one of the other main ways that I'm scouting, which

524
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: you said you're not doing as much of, but I'm

525
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: doing a lot of is glassing fields, doing some long

526
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: distance scouting. UM. So you know, for me, this comes

527
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: in the form of two different things. Either I am

528
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: driving around the roads around my different hunting properties in

529
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: the surrounding couple of miles, and I'm actually I've got

530
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: a binoculars, I've got a spotting scope, maybe I've got

531
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: my video camera, and I'm driving around trying to spot

532
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: some mature deer in the different crop fields. Um. You know,

533
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: in the evening hours. That's number one. And then number two.

534
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm also occasionally going to be going into a few

535
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: of my different areas where I can access and see

536
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: a long ways and actually try to view some deer

537
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: within the interior of some of the properties. Um. And

538
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: again I've got the same goals. I want to see

539
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: if the kind of deer I want to hunter here,

540
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: I want to try to understand who specifically might be here.

541
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: And then when it comes to this kind of information

542
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: where I'm actually watching deer from a distance and I

543
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: can watch, you know, where they came out of the woods,

544
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: and where they fed to and where they exited. You know,

545
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: now I can start to garner some information that I

546
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: might I might be able to apply during the hunting season. UM.

547
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: And you know this isn't just me either. There's a

548
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: lot of people that use this information and apply it

549
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: very heavily to their hunting strategy. I'm specifically thinking of

550
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: one example that I recently wrote about, UM, a guy

551
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: named Adam Hayes. He's been on a handful of TV

552
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: shows and written some articles, and he's you know, relatively

553
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: well known UM in the deer hunting world, most notably

554
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: because he has killed three two bucks, and he has

555
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: killed all three of those bucks using a very similar strategy.

556
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: And I wrote about the strategy and I'll share this

557
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: a little bit here because basedly revolves around this tactic

558
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: of summer scouting from a long distance. So what he

559
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: does is he doesn't have just one property that he

560
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: hunts over and over every year. He's changing where he

561
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: hunts almost every year, and he's basing that on where

562
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: he finds the buck he wants to hunt. So he'll

563
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: drive around a general area during the summer looking, you know,

564
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: back in these deep you know, secluded bean fields or

565
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: alfalfa fields or whatever might be. He's scouting really hardcore

566
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: in the summer, trying to identify that special buck that

567
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: he wants to hunt. So in these cases, he identified

568
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: these giants once he identified where the general area where

569
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: they were, and he saw ka other feeding in this field,

570
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: and they're feeding in this field and occasionally in this field.

571
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: Once he got an idea of where those dear were,

572
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: then he was doing anything he could to get permission

573
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: to hunt those areas or properties in the general area.

574
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 1: So let's say he's now identified the general area and

575
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: he got permission on one of the properties nearby. You know,

576
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: now he's taking that long distance scouting to the next level,

577
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: and he's going deeper into these properties if he can,

578
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: making sure that he's far enough away to not make

579
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: too much of an impact and not put too much

580
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: pressure on these deer, but but close enough to watch

581
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: these deer watch that specific buck. And he's then doing

582
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: just what I talked about. He's trying to identify where

583
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: are they coming out of the woods from or where

584
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: does he think they're betting based on, you know, where

585
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: they're exiting or entering the woods, how are they feeding,

586
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: what what moon phase is that that they're moving the earliest,

587
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: What wind direction is that that this deer is using

588
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: this trail, And he's getting very specific about all that

589
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: information and taking note of all that. Now once you know,

590
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: like we talked about one September hits, some of these

591
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: deer move on, some of them don't. But in the

592
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: cases in three such cases, um, these deer stuck around

593
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: that general area, and you know, you could either apply

594
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: that information that he learned in the summer to an

595
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: early season hunt, especially if you hunt, you know in

596
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: a state where the season opens early, like Kentucky opens

597
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: an early September. You know, Ohio opens in late September,

598
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: the Dakotas in earlier. Excuse me, there's a number of

599
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: different spots where you know, those patterns and those behaviors

600
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: in August are going to be the exact same patterns

601
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: that those deer following when your season opens. So in

602
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: those cases, I mean, this information is crucial and can

603
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: be huge to really you know, putting a great hunt

604
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: down and getting one of those deer. Yeah for me

605
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: my season. You know in YouTube are seasons in Iowa

606
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: and Michigan. They don't open until October. So in many

607
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: cases the deer have moved off that summer feeding pattern,

608
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: but to a degree, they might still stick to some

609
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: of those behaviors the first couple of days or week

610
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: of the season. So it's still information. At least I

611
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: personally think it's valuable and I think it's worth having

612
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: in your back pocket. Um, and then you know, Hayes,

613
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: he again has it information and in the different things

614
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: I've read from he's talked about the fact that that

615
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: early season again is a great time, but he also

616
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: can still use that summer information that he garnered. He

617
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: can still use that at the end of October and

618
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: that when he was really killing the most of these deer,

619
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: because what he's understood with that scouting that he did

620
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: in this summer, he's identified, you know, a couple of

621
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: the locations where those bucks are betting often, so of

622
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: course it's going to change a little bit, but if

623
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: they're sticking around the general area, that summer betting area

624
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: may still in fact be the same as what they're

625
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: using the fall. And then again he also knows again,

626
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: like I said, you know what types of wind directions

627
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: are they moving or are they moving on or what

628
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: types of how's the moon phase affecting them, whatever it

629
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: might be. He's using that the last ten days of

630
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: October when those bucks are still sticking to a relatively

631
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, home body type pattern, but they're just getting

632
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 1: edgy enough, they're just getting ramped up enough that they

633
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: might move a little earlier, or they might make a mistake.

634
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: And that is when he's killed all three of those twos.

635
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: Was in the last ten days of October, utilizing these

636
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: strategies to really get to know a specific deer that

637
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: he picked out in the summer, nailed down, and then

638
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: kill him right before the rut. So, I don't know,

639
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty interesting stuff that he's been

640
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: able to put into action. And you know, you know,

641
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily work for everyone. It's you know, you have

642
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: to have a certain set of circumstances to make that work. Um,

643
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: but I thought that was pretty interesting. And so and

644
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm kind of rambling here, but I'm basically doing some

645
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: similar type scouting. I'm trying to understand it and just

646
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 1: get as much information as I possibly can, because there's

647
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: no harm in knowing a lot of stuff about the

648
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: deer that you're hunting in the deer in your area,

649
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: Because when you add all those little pieces of data together,

650
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: if you can start looking at those little pieces as

651
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: a big hole picture, you can all of a sudden

652
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: make you know, some pretty smart decisions when once hunting

653
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: season gets here. So when it comes to long distance scouting,

654
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm thinking about. That's what I'm looking for. Um,

655
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, does that make any sense? Or do

656
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: I sound off the rocker? No, I'm it's a perfect sense. Uh.

657
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean. And and when I when I am in

658
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: the area, you know, and I do get a chance

659
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: to spend the night, you know those those Uh I'm

660
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm driving the back roads, I'm glass in the area

661
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: and not just my properties, um, all the surrounding properties

662
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: as well. And uh, you know, seeing what I can see.

663
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: But you know, in Iowa, spotlighting is legal and I

664
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: do a lot of that. Um I guess I did

665
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: when I lived closer to my hunting spots. Not so

666
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: much anymore, But um, you'll be surprised what you see.

667
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: Once the sun goes down and it gets dark out,

668
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: they start popping into these bean fields and these alf

669
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: alpha fields and you can get them, you know, throw

670
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: a light on them from the road and it doesn't

671
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like you're trying to film a

672
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: documentary while you're doing that. All you gotta do is

673
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: shoot or no shooter? Or who is that? Do I

674
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: know that? Buck? And then move on. Um. You know,

675
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: some landowners get a little, you know, a little edgy

676
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: with that if you're spotlighting on their property. But it

677
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: is legal in Iowa, and it is a it is

678
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: a tool that can can really help you, um identify

679
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: an area whether it's good or not because you know,

680
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: this time of year, do your are nocturnal. Yeah, I

681
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: think that's a great point. Um. And like you said,

682
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: it's legal in a lot of areas. UM. You know,

683
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: would just recommend to anyone thinking about just make sure

684
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: you check your regulations and you don't want to get

685
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: in trouble for something you're not supposed to be doing

686
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: like that. But you know, for instance, here in Michigan,

687
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: if I last I read the regulations during the off season,

688
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: it's legal up until eleven o'clock at night, So just

689
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: check it out. There might be some type of stipulation

690
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: like that in your state. But like you said, it's

691
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: a great way to get a better idea of the

692
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: deer in the area because they're going to be much

693
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: more visible at night. And then, and this is actually

694
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: something that Dan Infult, you know, our guest on episode

695
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: number three, I think he does this a lot. He's

696
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: actually taking the information he gets from those spotlighting sessions

697
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: and applying that to his hunting as well, because he's

698
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: he's saying, Okay, this deer is feeding in this field

699
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: on this night, with this moon phase, this wind, et cetera,

700
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: this temperature, and then he because he knows a lot

701
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: of these areas very well, or he can learn these areas,

702
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: he's then thinking to himself, Okay, if he's feeding here

703
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: right now an hour after dark, what's the most likely

704
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: best possible betting area that he could have came from.

705
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: And so now he's starting to understand at least the

706
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: best guess of Okay, these conditions led to him betting here,

707
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: led him moving to feed to this direction or in

708
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: this direction or in this location, and he's using all

709
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: that as a piece of the puzzle that he can

710
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: that he can act on later. Right, So, I mean

711
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: it all comes down to information, you know. It's it's

712
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: really is a science because the more information you have,

713
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: the better decision you can make on where to hunt,

714
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: how to hunt, what you need to do. YEA, so true. Um, So,

715
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: a few specific tips I thought i'd throw out here

716
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to, you know, long distance scouting. Um,

717
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: I'm doing, like I said, I'm doing a lot of

718
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: this right now at ship. Right after we get off

719
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: get off this podcast recording, I'm gonna eat a quick bite,

720
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: do the dishes, and then I'm gonna head out with

721
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: a buddy and do some driving around tonight. And we're

722
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: undecided on and if we're gonna stick around here in

723
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: Michigan or head down to Indiana and scout some of

724
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: those areas. But a few things to think about. Um,

725
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, of course, it's I think easy to figure

726
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: that the last, you know, twenty thirty minutes of daylight

727
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: are going to be the best for spotting some of

728
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: those deer. So you know, I always to kind of

729
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: time my drives if I'm doing the roadside thing where

730
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm driving, I like to try a time to do

731
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: at least maybe two drive bys of my best spots,

732
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: and hopefully that last drive by is going to be

733
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: just before dark. Um. You know, another thing I would

734
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: recommend that's kind of worked for me is if you're

735
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: driving down one of his back roads and you spot

736
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: a good deer, don't slam on your brakes right then

737
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: and there and try to you know, get a good

738
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: look at him. In my case, I'm trying to film

739
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: these deer too, so I can look back at it

740
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: and you know, get a better idea of what these

741
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: deer are. So if I slam on my brakes lots

742
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: of times right away, stop right then and there, the deer,

743
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: Caesar truck takes off running. But if your truck just continues,

744
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: your car just keeps on going by. That deer is

745
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of cars drive by, and as long

746
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: as that car keeps going, in most cases, he'll be okay.

747
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: He that's what he's used to. So what I try

748
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: to do now is I'll try to if I see

749
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: a deer, I'll just keep on driving, get past wherever

750
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: he can see, and then I'll you know, get far

751
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: enough away, turn around, come back, and then just creep

752
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: right up to the very edge of where I can

753
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: see him, and in most cases I can get away

754
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: with creeping up just enough to see past that corner

755
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: of the fence or whatever it might be, that I

756
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: can watch him for a little bit before he actually

757
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: notices me and takes off. So that's the thought. Yeah,

758
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's typically what I do as well. And

759
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: one thing I want to throw out here, only real

760
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: quick walton on my mind, and I don't see it

761
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: there is if you become if you find a buck,

762
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: let's say, your your glass and you find a decent buck,

763
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: and then you start going there over and over and

764
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: over again, and people see you parked there and they

765
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: see your activity, they're gonna know that, hey, there might

766
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: be a big buck there as well. That rumor spreads.

767
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: So my suggestion would be find it, leave it alone.

768
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: Don't make a pattern out of going there night after

769
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: night or once, you know, once twice, three times a week,

770
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, leave it alone, find the deer, then worry

771
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: about gaining access to that property, because if you can't

772
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 1: hunt that property, don't you're wasting your time. So that's

773
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: just a quick tip on my end. Yeah, No, that's

774
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: a good point. It's hard, though, you know, if you

775
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: see a good deer, you really want to go see

776
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: him again. And I've struggled this too, and I'm actually

777
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: kind of living this right now because there's a good

778
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: deer in a general area around one of the properties

779
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: I hunt that I got a good look at him

780
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: earlier in June, and then I've gone by a handful

781
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: of times I want to get I still just haven't

782
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: got a really really good look at him and to

783
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: see what he's become now. And I badly want to

784
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: get that footage just so I can really study it

785
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: and try to figure out if I know this deer

786
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: or what this deer is gonna be. Um, but I'm

787
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: probably I might be getting to the point where I'm

788
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: pushing it too far because I keep on checking it out.

789
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: And you know, like you said, people will pick up

790
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: on that. So it's right. I got a bunch of

791
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: hunters around me from around generally. I mean, you live

792
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: in Michigan, so yeah, everybody's a hunter. But they yeah,

793
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: they'll they'll notice and stay away, stay away. Yeah. Yeah, great,

794
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: great advice right there. And another good piece of advice

795
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: I would offer is if you're looking for deer and

796
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: you want them to stick around while you're you know,

797
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: taking a look at him from the road. Don't drive

798
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: a big black ram truck with a HEMI because that's

799
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: what I'm driving right now, and for whatever reason, I've

800
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: never had issues. But I can't hardly drive by a

801
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: deer right now without it running away. Just got the

802
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: new truck recently, and I'm spooking deer like crazy, So

803
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I do all my scouting around here

804
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: on that public dround that I'm gonna look into hunting

805
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: this year. Uh, And I do my scouting in a

806
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: Honda Civic, so it's uh, it can go just about anywhere.

807
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: That's uh, that maybe what I what I should be

808
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: rolling on because and people don't look at oh they're

809
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: hon a Civic. Yeah he's not a hunter, or that

810
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: that person is not a hunter. They're they're they're just lost. Yeah,

811
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: very true, especially how about you. Yeah, that's that brings

812
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: up a whole another topic too, um, which I don't

813
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: want to have too far into. But the idea of

814
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: you know what you're driving and you know what you

815
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: have plaster all over your vehicle can really display your intentions,

816
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: and in some cases, unfortunately, you know, we need to

817
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: be worried about other people, you know, like you said,

818
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: taking note of, Hey, there's a guy that's coming here

819
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: all the time. He's obviously a big hunter because he

820
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: has seventy two deer hunting stickers and details on his

821
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: truck that might attract some attention you don't want, so

822
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: I haven't put I haven't put any new stickers or

823
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: anything on my new truck because I want to keep

824
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: a little bit lower profile. I think, dude, that is

825
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: the best, best, in my opinion, only way when I

826
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: tell when I ask permission to unless for a you know,

827
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: for a farm, to hunt, unless they want me to

828
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: park in a specific spot so they know that I'm there,

829
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: I tell them you won't even know him on your property,

830
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: because that's the whole point. I don't want another person

831
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: to know I'm hunting there, and I the only the

832
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: only person I do want to know is the farmer

833
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: or the landowner. And um, you get permission and then

834
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: you say, well, you're a good chance you probably don't

835
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: even see me, because I have no problem walking two miles,

836
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, parking my truck behind some trees or some

837
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: big bills of hey, and getting it out of the

838
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: way and walking that extra you know, yards to get

839
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: to your tree stand to you know, leave no trail. Yeah,

840
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: it's it's unfortunately we have to worry about that, but

841
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: you really do because people will take advantage of that

842
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: or they might, you know, try to mess up what

843
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: you're doing. Um, and it's it's just a reality of

844
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: the situation we live in these days. So let me

845
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: share a quick story real quick on spotlighting. We Uh,

846
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: we're out spotlighting in area and I had permission on

847
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: a neighboring farm to hunt. So this hunter, nady inch

848
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: h ten pointer, no junk, perfect, awesome deer was visiting

849
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: the south Alpha field every night. So we started, uh,

850
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: we started spotlight in this area and uh, we started

851
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: spotlighting it every night, or not every night, but almost

852
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: every night he'd come out, we spotlight and we'd move on,

853
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: come out, spotlight and move on. One day we got

854
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: there and there was a big old truck, old truck

855
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: there and the armor was like, hey, have you guys

856
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: seen that big old deer? I see, yeah, I've seen it. Uh.

857
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: You know, I tried to play dumb for a while,

858
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: you say, I don't know. I don't know what you're

859
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: talking about. And then he goes, well, I was seeing

860
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: your truck stop here a couple of times. I know

861
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: you hunt over at the other other piece. Um, I

862
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna try to kill him this year. First

863
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: time this dude ever goes bow hunting. He kills this

864
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: buck really and it was because of the fact that

865
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: me and another guy we're spotlight in this field so

866
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: much and he saw it. He ended up paying attention

867
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: and he saw this and he's like, well, I've never

868
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: I owned the property. If I there's a big deer

869
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: on it, maybe I should hunt. He goes out, he

870
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: gets a bow, He practice probably three times, and he

871
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: goes out and he shoots. This is giant. Wow. That's

872
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: how it goes right, right, And you know, we're supposed

873
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: to be advocates for the sport and you know, be

874
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: happy that people knew people are joining. But that was

875
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: one of those instances where I was just like congratulations

876
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: as I had my fingers crossed behind my back. You know,

877
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: I got a buddy who always likes to say, you know,

878
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: I'm ninety eight percent happy for you, but there's a

879
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: very strong two percent where I'm like, dang it, I

880
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: wish that was me. Yeah, that's the truth. But that's

881
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: a good lesson to to share with everyone. And it's

882
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: something that I think is it's easy to fall into

883
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: the temptation of of watching these deer, seeing these deer

884
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: often is it's tough to tough to avoid. Yeah. Sure.

885
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: So one one final area I wanted to talk about

886
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: when it comes to summer scouting, it was actual on

887
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: the ground, getting in there and doing some some actual

888
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: scouting in person before the season starts. And I know

889
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: you talked a little bit about about the fact that

890
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: you're going in there and doing some different preparation, setting

891
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: stands or putting cameras out, and that you're, you know,

892
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: doing some scouting along the way. Um, and I think

893
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: you know that that's something I do as well. But

894
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: I also occasionally, in a certain circumstances, I try to

895
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: do some specific scouting. And I kind of took this

896
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: tactic from John and Chris Eberhardt, who are a couple

897
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: of Michigan hunters that I've learned a lot from have

898
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: written a handful of books that I highly recommend. And

899
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: what they do is that they call the speed scouting,

900
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: and you know, they're very very particular about being very

901
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: low pressure and not going into areas unless they absolutely

902
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: have to, but they will try to get maybe one

903
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: quick scouting trip into a few of their key early

904
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: season spots to confirm some details and to learn a

905
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: little bit of information. And I think some of their

906
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: ideas can be applied to a lot of different people

907
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: in and hunting situations. Basically, they're going to go in

908
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: and do a quick run by or walk by some

909
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: of their top spots or key areas to get a

910
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: picture of what the situation is, and they're looking for

911
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, how are the food sources doing that I

912
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: think are going to be in this area? So are

913
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: the white oaks producing acorns? Check? Um? Is the old

914
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: apple tree in the corner producing apples? Buck? You know?

915
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: Is there per cymetry down in the corner by the creek? Check?

916
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: You know, you want to confirm those things because if

917
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: you don't know that, it's going to affect how you hunt.

918
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: But if you do know it, you can make sure

919
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: you are hunting the right spot at the right time

920
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: because you know that that food source is producing or

921
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: it's not producing. Um, it's also worth checking out water sources.

922
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: You know, is that small pond dried up or is

923
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: it fall up water and being hit. Um. It's also

924
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: a good thing to check, especially if you're if you're

925
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: in that very late August or very early September time

926
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: frame when those bucks are starting to relocate, they're starting

927
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: to rub off their velvet. You can find some early

928
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: rubs sometimes and that can key you in on you know,

929
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: different buck activity too, So that's something worth looking at um.

930
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: And then also you need to be unfortunately in some cases,

931
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: you need to be concerned about sign from other hunters.

932
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: So especially if you're on public land, you know, when

933
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: it comes to late summer, lots of other guys are

934
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: going in the woods and setting up the tree stands,

935
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: trim and lanes, doing all those things. And if that

936
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: happens near you or you know, on a property to

937
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: your hunting, that's going to impact the deer once the

938
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: season starts in many cases at least, So you know,

939
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: if you can get that information now, you can then

940
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: apply that to your hunting season and make sure you're

941
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: not learning that on October one and then having you

942
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: having a ruined hunt because of it. So you know,

943
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking for. When I do kind of

944
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: speed scouting session, it's usually gonna be you know, if

945
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, and I don't do it in all situations, Um,

946
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: but I might do it in late August early September,

947
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: a quick trip the middle of the day. Um, I'm

948
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: going to make sure that I'm being super you know,

949
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: conscientious about my sun control. I'm gonna make sure I'm

950
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: not you know, busting through deep betting areas or anything

951
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: like that. I'm still gonna be careful about where I walk.

952
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: And you know, the perfect situation is an called rainy

953
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 1: day windy, so they're not gonna hear you light reins,

954
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna wash what your scent. If you can find

955
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: a day like that, that's just a really really good

956
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: opportunity to get in there, get some quick scouting in

957
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: and you're you're probably not gonna make too big of

958
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: an impact. So for me, that's what my kind of

959
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: speed scouting or last minute summer scouting sessions look like. Um,

960
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: of course, you know, doing different stuff throughout the earlier

961
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: summer months, but but that's kind of what I'm thinking

962
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: about this time of year. I don't do you do

963
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: anything like that or yeah. Typically, um, let's see, three

964
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: weeks ago, myself and Ryan, my buddy Ryan, we went

965
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: down to my hunting properties and because he drew an

966
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: Iowa tag, he came down and helped me set up

967
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: trail camera or trail cameras and uh, a tree stands

968
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: this year. So typically what we do is we'll go in,

969
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: we'll do some scouting and whatnot, but once we throw

970
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: a tree stand in the area, we're not going back

971
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: there until it's time to hunt it. So, um, you know,

972
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, I really like, like we both do on

973
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: on trail cameras, and any scouting that I do is

974
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: gonna be done when I'm out there checking my trail cameras.

975
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: You know, every every motion I make has to be

976
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: as efficient as possible because I don't want to have

977
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: to go in there more times are necessary. And um,

978
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, give you know, have the potential of jumping

979
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: a deer more than one time, you know, once or

980
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: once or twice an entire summer is pretty good. Um,

981
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: anything more than that, you know. Unfortunately, we don't have

982
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 1: to leave Akoski property like you mentioned, where he can

983
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: condition is dear to not be afraid of them. But um.

984
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: But you know, guys like us and the majority of

985
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: the hunters out there have to do that. But um,

986
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: you know it's uh, it's funny, you know. I don't

987
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: I don't try to spend you know, if it's a

988
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: new property, yes, I'm out there a little bit more

989
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: trying to find out as much information. But for the

990
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: properties that I hunt and we're all well, where I

991
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: will focus on, especially this year. UM, I know I

992
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: already know from previous year's experience, you know, not saying

993
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: that that will change, but I know from previous year's

994
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: experience that uh, um, I know where they're going to

995
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: be moving I know. Um, you know, basically just honing

996
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: my what I saw from the previous years to make

997
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 1: that approach towards the actual season. Yeah. Absolutely, I think,

998
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: like you said, if you know a spot and if

999
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: you don't absolutely need to go in there and confirms something,

1000
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: don't go in there just to say you went scouting

1001
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: or just because you feel the need to get in

1002
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: the woods and walk around. I think a lot of

1003
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: people do. It's natural, a lot of people want to, Um,

1004
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, if they weren't worried about, you know, this

1005
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: kind of thing, they would just walk through the woods

1006
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: see if I see any sign just before the season,

1007
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: but that can be one of the absolute worst things

1008
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: you can do. So I think, you know, I'd only

1009
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: do this kind of in person scouting in the summer

1010
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: if it was necessary to confirm something um or if

1011
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: you're just learning that property. And then if I'm going

1012
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: to do it and we're really careful about it, and

1013
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: that timing is gonna be pretty important making sure I'm

1014
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: going there at the right time. So otherwise, like you said,

1015
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: you should hopefully you know already know this from past

1016
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: seasons or you know, really the best time to be

1017
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: doing this kind of the best kind of scouting is

1018
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: done postseason or in the spring when you can see

1019
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, everything on the ground without all the all

1020
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: the new green up and everything. So you know, hopefully

1021
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: everyone out there did a bunch of scouting this winter

1022
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: and early spring and you guys are ready to go.

1023
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: But I know that I don't always get all that

1024
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: done either, so sometimes you gotta do some last minute

1025
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: work and uh, and this these are some ideas to

1026
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: keep in mind if you do right for sure, So

1027
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: what do you think, Dan? Do you uh, do you

1028
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: have any other thoughts on summer scouting that you want

1029
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: to make sure we touch on here today. Well, no, really,

1030
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: I think we actually covered a lot of it. I

1031
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: just want to know, um, have you checked your trail

1032
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: cameras recently and do you have any potential this year

1033
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: so far? Well, I checked my cameras just over a

1034
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: week ago in Michigan and less than stellar results. Uh,

1035
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: probably just one buck that really for sure would be

1036
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: a shooter this year. And he looks like a nice

1037
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: a nice Michigan a pointer, nothing that you look at

1038
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: twice in Iowa, but um, a good deer. And then

1039
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: a couple other possibilities, um that either are nice two

1040
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: year olds or might be you know, kind of average

1041
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: to load average three and a half year olds that

1042
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: I don't know this. These pictures were from you know,

1043
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: early July, so I don't I don't know exactly what

1044
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: they're in. Turns, so there's two that the jury is

1045
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: still out. Um. I still have not gotten back down

1046
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: to Ohio. I set a camera down there back in

1047
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: May while I was turkey hunting, um, just because I

1048
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: wasn't sure when I get there, So I figure I'll

1049
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 1: put it up and I'll get some super early growth,

1050
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 1: and I was hoping i'd come back in June a month.

1051
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: I thought i'd come back once a month and change

1052
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: that camera out. But somehow we're here. It's pretty much August,

1053
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: and I still haven't got back down there. So I

1054
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: bet you're thinking about it, though, aren't you. I am

1055
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: thinking about it a lot, because there's a couple of

1056
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: bucks down there that I think and I really really

1057
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: hope made it through the season and they'll just be

1058
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: jumble this year. So I'm hoping that's the case. And

1059
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: then that the one other thing here in Michigan. I

1060
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: know a lot of the listeners have heard me talk

1061
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: about the bucket call Leaner, and I know you've you've

1062
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: heard me talk about him. I still don't have trail

1063
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Speaker 1: camera pictures of him. But last night, and this ties

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Speaker 1: in perfectly the summer scouting stuff. While doing one of

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Speaker 1: my driver around sessions where I'm driving a couple of

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Speaker 1: miles around these hunting properties, I might have spotted Leaner.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, I don't know for sure. I'd say maybe

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Speaker 1: it's he's got the right frame. He's got the frame

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Speaker 1: and the brow time, the spacing between the brow times

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Speaker 1: and the frame. It's it's It's basically if he took

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Speaker 1: Leaner's frame from last year and pushed it out two

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Speaker 1: more inches wider and gave him a little more height,

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Speaker 1: it's him. Um, but it was far from your point

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Speaker 1: seven mile or point seven five miles from the edge

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Speaker 1: of the closest property I can hunt. Um So, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not it's uh less than a mile away. He

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to get too excited yet.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I just saw him last night for

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Speaker 1: like fifteen seconds. I got fifteen seconds of video footage

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Speaker 1: of him. He's like four yards away, just staring in

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Speaker 1: my general direction. I didn't even get a side view

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00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: of him. He was literally just staring in my direction.

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Speaker 1: And then I had to I had an issue. My

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Speaker 1: camera was messing around the camera, and I looked back

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Speaker 1: up and he was gone. Um So, I don't know

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Speaker 1: a whole lot, but there's a little small, tiny bit

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Speaker 1: of hope that maybe he's back. So we'll see more

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Speaker 1: to come on that soon. I might be driving around tonight,

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Speaker 1: like I said, around here. I don't know, but I'll

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Speaker 1: definitely keep keep posted, keep everyone in the know, and

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Speaker 1: if if the Leaner story has a year number three,

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Speaker 1: things will get very interesting. Good deal. That's awesome. Cool man. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great place for us to wrap

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Speaker 1: it up then. So you know, to everyone out there listening,

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Speaker 1: huge thank you. We appreciate your time. We hope you're

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Speaker 1: enjoying the show, as I keep on going to do

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Speaker 1: for an events, whether it was the Cutie Make Convention

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Speaker 1: last week, we're just some different local things here in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing from a lot of you guys that have

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Speaker 1: been listening to the show. It sounds like you're enjoying

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Speaker 1: it and we really appreciate it. But you know, just

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Speaker 1: as much we appreciate the feedback. You know, let us

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Speaker 1: know who he want us to talk to, let us know.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe you don't want me and Dan talking

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Speaker 1: about the dumb things that we talked about, so tell

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Speaker 1: us that, because I want to make sure that this

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Speaker 1: show is what you want. You, the white tail edicts

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Speaker 1: out there like me and Dan, you know this shows

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Speaker 1: are finding out about the Wired Hunt podcast and I

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Speaker 1: think that's a good thing. And speaking of thanks, you know,

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Speaker 1: as we always do, I want to take a quick

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Speaker 1: about this episode or some of the different topics which

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Speaker 1: episode seventeen. I'll include some links to a couple of

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Speaker 1: the articles I talked about, like the Adam Hayes article

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Speaker 1: UM or the you know what should you do if

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Speaker 1: there's no big box on trial camera. I'll make sure

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Speaker 1: to link those so you can check it out if

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Speaker 1: be sending out more updates as the season gets closer,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be filling you guys in on how our

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Speaker 1: seasons are going. You know what the most popular articles

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Speaker 1: are on Wired Hunt right now and another good stuff

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Speaker 1: that you'll find interesting, so check that out, and of

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Speaker 1: course thank you again Wired Hunt Nation. The podcast is

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Speaker 1: for you and we appreciate you. So until next time,

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Speaker 1: have a great week, get out there scouting. He's always

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Speaker 1: still wired to Hunt.