Speaker 1: Looking Down, Cut Down, Miami Quos, drawn, What is up? Dolphans?
Speaker 1: And welcome to the Drive Time Podcast part of the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins podcast network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: How's it going everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 1: And on today's show, we're gonna hear from a source
Speaker 1: I reference all the time on this podcast on Twitter
Speaker 1: and otherwise, the Film Rooms, Brett Coleman. We're gonna go
Speaker 1: pick by pick. Brett's going to list the best trait
Speaker 1: of each prospect we drafted and how they can be
Speaker 1: beneficial in Miami schemes. Will also assign some homework by
Speaker 1: giving you the best tape of each prospect so you
Speaker 1: can go look at them at their very best. All
Speaker 1: of that and more on this edition of the Drive
Speaker 1: Time Podcasts. And I want to keep this podcast off
Speaker 1: by using a couple of other resources. I love The
Speaker 1: Athletic and the Draft Network and a couple of articles
Speaker 1: penned by two of my favorite writers, and Ted Win
Speaker 1: of The Athletic and Joe Marino of the Draft Network.
Speaker 1: And we'll go ahead and start on the Athletic with
Speaker 1: Ted's Film Room, his ten favorite scheme and player fits,
Speaker 1: from NFL Draft, not just talking about the best draft picks,
Speaker 1: but who fits into their new team and their new
Speaker 1: system and into their new surrounding cast. The best and
Speaker 1: number one he has Trey Lance in San Francisco. I
Speaker 1: think we all kind of assumed that was coming based
Speaker 1: upon their move up in the draft and Kyle Shanahan's
Speaker 1: history with developing quarterbacks and that offensive system and how
Speaker 1: QB friendly it is. And Trey Lance has all the
Speaker 1: traits to take that offense and that team to the
Speaker 1: next level. Just please wait until we can get our
Speaker 1: draft picks up there at the top of the draft
Speaker 1: and not the bottom. The number two player on his
Speaker 1: list is Jalen Waddle, the receiver out of Alabama now
Speaker 1: with your Miami Dolphins. He list his play style as
Speaker 1: a speed receiver with elite acceleration and a exceptional play
Speaker 1: strength for his size, heavy play action bootlegs, and West
Speaker 1: Coast principles or the fit he has for this Dolphins
Speaker 1: offense and receiver. Says he loves Wattle still with the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: not just because of the scheme, and truthfully, we don't
Speaker 1: know what kind of scheme it's going to be. He
Speaker 1: writes with new coordinators Eric Studicsville and George Gatzi. But
Speaker 1: he loves the fit because of what Waddle could do
Speaker 1: for quarterback to a Tongue by Loa, and he talks
Speaker 1: about the wider windows and the intermediate to deep portions
Speaker 1: of the field creating more opportunities and less hesitation in
Speaker 1: this Dolphins offense to attack vertically. He also says that
Speaker 1: he creates Wattle does more separation than any receiver he's
Speaker 1: scouted in recent memory, and he does it in a hurry.
Speaker 1: Ted writes his ability to accelerate and maintain speed on
Speaker 1: his cuts is uncanny, and he writes about an instant
Speaker 1: deep threat here for tongue Byla but who can also
Speaker 1: help him creating separation on the horizontal routes like digs
Speaker 1: or crossing routes. And the hope is that bigger windows
Speaker 1: Wattle will create could encourage the Dolphins offense and too
Speaker 1: it would be more aggressive throwing the football down the field.
Speaker 1: And also oh by the way they go out and
Speaker 1: they get will Fuller to compliment that as well. How
Speaker 1: about the Draft network piece. We go to one end
Speaker 1: of the draft with the number six pick in the draft,
Speaker 1: all the way to pick to forty one with Jared Doakes,
Speaker 1: who leads off Joe Marino's piece titled Marino's Top five
Speaker 1: sleepers from one NFL draft and who was on their
Speaker 1: first but Jared Doakes. He says he loves the Dolphins
Speaker 1: didn't panic when it comes to the running back position,
Speaker 1: but instead prioritize more meaningful positions with early draft capital.
Speaker 1: And he continues on talking about the production of fellow
Speaker 1: seventh round draft pick Miles Gaskin, but also how Doakes
Speaker 1: is a good compliment because of his powerful downhill running
Speaker 1: style that has angry runs attached to it and explosive
Speaker 1: into contact with good vision and contact balance. He also
Speaker 1: notes his terrific pass protection and a capable receiver in
Speaker 1: that Cincinnati offense. So Joe Marino a big fan of
Speaker 1: the last draft pick for the Miami Dolphins too overall,
Speaker 1: and Ted Win a big fan of the first pick,
Speaker 1: number six overall in Jalen Waddle for your Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: And with that, I want to welcome in my guest today.
Speaker 1: I talked about him all the time on the podcast,
Speaker 1: referencing his great work he does. He's the creator of
Speaker 1: the film Room on YouTube. You can subscribe to that channel.
Speaker 1: You can also hear him via the podcast Airways on
Speaker 1: the Bootleg Football podcast with his co host E. J. Snyder.
Speaker 1: He's Brett Coleman. Brett. Here we go again, Man, how
Speaker 1: the hell are you? Um? I'm doing great, And even
Speaker 1: though I'm not a Dolphins fan, I was absolutely psyched
Speaker 1: to see what they came away within the draft. Uh,
Speaker 1: pick after pick after pick. If you're following me on Twitter,
Speaker 1: every single time the Dolphins picked, I was just like, man,
Speaker 1: that's great. That's just value, value value. I loved everything
Speaker 1: they did well. I mean we talked this offseason a
Speaker 1: little bit, and I I do like I have some
Speaker 1: sympathy for what you're going through. Is a lifelong Texans fan,
Speaker 1: but I mean you've been talking about jumping ship for
Speaker 1: a while now, Man, like join us. I you know,
Speaker 1: I I was halfway a Bears fan because my dad
Speaker 1: lived in Chicago, so I've you know, passively rooted for
Speaker 1: the Bears and kind of jumped full on over to
Speaker 1: the Bears this offseason. But I'm looking for a new
Speaker 1: a f C team, and I'll tell you what, the
Speaker 1: future is bright for the Dolphins. So if I can
Speaker 1: get in, not at the ground floor. The ground floor
Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago. If I can get
Speaker 1: in you know, second or third floor and right this
Speaker 1: all the way up to the eightieth, I think I'll
Speaker 1: be okay. Well, at least you've got justin fields there
Speaker 1: in Chicago hopefully. And I talked about this on Draft night.
Speaker 1: I am rooting so hard for that whole quarterback woes
Speaker 1: in Chicago to go by the boards, especially if they're
Speaker 1: going to give us the Bears four or five times
Speaker 1: a year in prime time. Let's get a competitive team
Speaker 1: on that NBC and NFL network and ESPN broadcast. But
Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there. I do want to touch
Speaker 1: on a couple of things before we get into the
Speaker 1: football here, because Brett, every video you make, you make
Speaker 1: me thirsty, and then you make me hungry on Twitter
Speaker 1: with that post draft mill you post a man like
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if you made that or if that
Speaker 1: was a restaurant. What was that? So that wasn't a
Speaker 1: place that we just we were looking for a place
Speaker 1: to eat, uh and I found it open table. It's
Speaker 1: place called Wooden vine Over or wood and vine Over
Speaker 1: in l A. Uh. I live, you know, in the
Speaker 1: l A area, and uh, they had only been open
Speaker 1: for three days. They were closed down during the entire
Speaker 1: last year for obvious reasons. And it was one of
Speaker 1: the best meals I've ever had. Thirty two ounds perfectly
Speaker 1: cooked rebby you know, smoke, garlic, mashed potatoes, these great
Speaker 1: like chili, honey, Brussels sprout. It was phenomenal. So I
Speaker 1: posted that on Twitter because I was like, I need
Speaker 1: people to see this place and go here because I
Speaker 1: never want them to close again. It was amazing. This
Speaker 1: is a man who lives his best life. I think
Speaker 1: it was maybe it was when the pandemic was cooling
Speaker 1: down after the first wave or something, and you had
Speaker 1: gone to an outdoor event where Bill Burr pops into
Speaker 1: the set for you. What was that like? I mean,
Speaker 1: it was amazing because it was just these little, you know,
Speaker 1: impromptu comedy shows, you know, parking lot behind a barber shop,
Speaker 1: because all these comedians hadn't been able to do was
Speaker 1: showing months and they were rusty, and so they were
Speaker 1: just bringing in random people that just wanted to do
Speaker 1: a set to keep fresh and Bill burg happened to
Speaker 1: be one of them. And this was like a ten
Speaker 1: dollar ticket, you know, like, this is a small, dinky
Speaker 1: show with like fifteen twenty people in the audience, and
Speaker 1: he just randomly rolled up, you know, started doing his
Speaker 1: uh Bill Burr type improvisation for the people that were
Speaker 1: yelling at him from a taco truck across the street.
Speaker 1: It was it was great. It was one of the
Speaker 1: best comedy shows I've ever seen. I listened to the
Speaker 1: Monday morning podcast every single week I listened to was
Speaker 1: Bill Burt Podcast with Burt Kreischer. He's one of the
Speaker 1: funniest men alive, and he's also one of the most
Speaker 1: uh notorious or infamous I don't know how to put
Speaker 1: it bourbon drinkers, but he stepped away since then. But man,
Speaker 1: I talked about you making me thirsty on the YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: Those those video shoots you do of the drinks and
Speaker 1: the concoction as it is, they always look so delicious, man, Like,
Speaker 1: have you always had that passion for spirits? I've always
Speaker 1: loved whiskey, and I tried to get a little bit
Speaker 1: into mes cow and trying to get into rum as well,
Speaker 1: but whiskey has always been very close to my heart.
Speaker 1: And you know, when I started going on camera with
Speaker 1: these videos, I wanted to, you know, kind of show
Speaker 1: a little bit more of myself, and whiskey was always
Speaker 1: something that kind of calmed my nerves a little bit
Speaker 1: for being on camera, because that was not something that
Speaker 1: I really wanted to do it first, but I knew
Speaker 1: I had to um, and you know, the whiskey was
Speaker 1: there to call my nerves and it's also just something
Speaker 1: I love. And over time that whiskey became part of
Speaker 1: the channel, part of the brand. And you know, fans
Speaker 1: love it when I, you know, throw a new drink
Speaker 1: in there that maybe they've never had before, never made before,
Speaker 1: and you know, you get to have a nice little cocktail,
Speaker 1: get to talk some football, and I think it's a
Speaker 1: format that works for me. It's the Film Room on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Go check it out. He has a phenomenal Jalen Phillips video.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about him here in just one second.
Speaker 1: And as you can tell, the man loves the Dolphins
Speaker 1: draft class. I just have to mention how funny it
Speaker 1: is to me that you were nervous about going on camera,
Speaker 1: since that's what you do for a living now. When
Speaker 1: I first started doing podcast, I was afraid I hated
Speaker 1: the sound of my own voice, and now here I
Speaker 1: am hosting Dolphins draft parties in front of six thousand
Speaker 1: Dolphins fans at hard Rock Stadium. Like it's it's crazy
Speaker 1: how it works. Like I think your biggest insecurity is
Speaker 1: something you work on it turns into a strength. It
Speaker 1: certainly has for you, man. I love the channel, I
Speaker 1: love the resource. I talked to you about it all
Speaker 1: the time. It's some of the best content out there.
Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and finish up before we get
Speaker 1: into the football here with your mock draft. I saw
Speaker 1: some of the people talking about their scores on Huddle
Speaker 1: and Josh Norris had like a batting average of a
Speaker 1: thousand percent. How did your mock draft go this year?
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting I didn't get a score on
Speaker 1: that because I never like submitted it for review or
Speaker 1: anything like that. And my mock draft is a little
Speaker 1: bit different where I focus more on what would I
Speaker 1: do if I was a general manager versus trying to
Speaker 1: predict picks, and I ended up getting some guys in
Speaker 1: the first round that almost nobody else had in the
Speaker 1: first round just because I went off my own grades,
Speaker 1: like Joe try On and Peyton Turner towards the end
Speaker 1: of the first round, I had them as the thirty
Speaker 1: one and thirty second overall pick, and then you know,
Speaker 1: Joe Tryan went thirty two. Peyton Turner went a few
Speaker 1: picks before that at to the Saints, and you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people were like, what's what is this? Why?
Speaker 1: Why are why are you putting them in your mock draft?
Speaker 1: And then they go in the top thirty two picks
Speaker 1: a few days later, and I'm like, well, I put
Speaker 1: them in my mock draft because they're really good players.
Speaker 1: That's why I did it. Um. But you know, there
Speaker 1: were there was a lot of picks that I accidentally
Speaker 1: got correct, Like I put Trey Lance at number three
Speaker 1: to the forty Niners because I felt, ironically the pick
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins traded away to the forty Niners. You know,
Speaker 1: I put Trey Lance there because I felt that he
Speaker 1: was worth the pick. And then I didn't want to
Speaker 1: buy into the whole you know, we're taking the Alabama
Speaker 1: kid at three because I that just wasn't my grades,
Speaker 1: And I stuck true to my grades and ended up
Speaker 1: getting that one, right. I stuck true to my grades
Speaker 1: and got Jamaar Chase to the Bengals over Penn a stool.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of disagreement there, but oddly enough,
Speaker 1: just me sticking to my own grades, UH ended up
Speaker 1: getting a few picks right. And by the way, a
Speaker 1: lot of Dolphins fans were wondering, why are we taking
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips at eighteen? I personally had him at eleven
Speaker 1: to the Giants, So for me, that was actually a
Speaker 1: pretty big value. Oh Man, the still still the first
Speaker 1: round perhaps there as far as him fall into the
Speaker 1: eighteenth pick of the draft, first defensive and off the
Speaker 1: board there. And I think it's great that you provide
Speaker 1: that that look at the at the mock draft process,
Speaker 1: because you know, you're a film guy. You're a guy
Speaker 1: that knows how these players work and how they operate.
Speaker 1: So do it that way. Let the insiders, like Peter
Speaker 1: Schrager's of the world, for instance, do the here's what
Speaker 1: I'm hearing mock draft. I think there's place for both
Speaker 1: of them. And with that, I want to get into
Speaker 1: our podcast here where I want to go down each
Speaker 1: player picked by the Dolphins and talk about their best trade,
Speaker 1: how it fits into the Dolphins scheme, and their best
Speaker 1: tape you can give the fans to go watch. Does
Speaker 1: that work for you? Brett Coleman, absolutely, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Jalen Waddle, number six pick in the draft,
Speaker 1: the number two receiver off the board. What is his
Speaker 1: best trade? In your opinion, it's the ability to separate quickly.
Speaker 1: And you know, you and I were talking about this
Speaker 1: months and months and months ago on another drive time
Speaker 1: where I said, with the offense that the Dolphins want
Speaker 1: to run, it is getting the ball out quick with
Speaker 1: two It like Ta is at his best when he
Speaker 1: is working the quick game, working r P O S.
Speaker 1: If you want to take a shot deep, it's, you know,
Speaker 1: three steps, let it fly down the boundary. So in
Speaker 1: terms of should we take a tackle, should we take
Speaker 1: a receiver? When your offense is getting the ball out
Speaker 1: that quickly anyway and you're taking a lot of three
Speaker 1: step drops, tackle, it's still important, but it's not as
Speaker 1: important as getting guys that can separate within that two
Speaker 1: and a half second window. And you know, it's nice
Speaker 1: to have great protection, but if nobody's getting open and
Speaker 1: under three seconds anyway, who cares? You know? So I
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins made the right pick. It could have
Speaker 1: been Waddle. It could have been DeVante Smith. I didn't
Speaker 1: really care either way because they both do the same
Speaker 1: thing and that's just get open. So I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people maybe wanted Seul, but I think a
Speaker 1: package of Jalen water on Liam Eikenberg is vastly preferable
Speaker 1: to a package of Penna Sewell and whatever receiver they
Speaker 1: would have taken in the second round, I think they
Speaker 1: made the right move that fits their offense and most
Speaker 1: importantly makes two a comfortable Absolutely. I think Elijah Moore
Speaker 1: might have been the possible selection in that second round
Speaker 1: to fill out that group, but he went off the
Speaker 1: board before Miami could pick it thirty six, so you
Speaker 1: would have kind of missed on that one. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: Rondale Moore. I'm not sure who it might have been,
Speaker 1: but I agree with you that Waddle gives you that
Speaker 1: instant explosion, the instant offense. And do you think he
Speaker 1: can contribute in a big way right away. Oh? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: whether it's special teams, whether it's as a slot receiver,
Speaker 1: and remember he's a very good route runner as well.
Speaker 1: He's not just, you know, one of these gimmicky slot
Speaker 1: receivers where we can only get in the ball on screens, like,
Speaker 1: he is a legitimately good route runner, so you can
Speaker 1: maybe play him a little bit outside at Z as well.
Speaker 1: We haven't really seen him go up against press coverage before.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't do it. We just haven't
Speaker 1: really seen it because Bamma didn't use him that way.
Speaker 1: But he's got legitimate speed, so we can threaten uh
Speaker 1: down downfield, down the boundary. But I think just putting
Speaker 1: him in the slot, you know, letting him absolutely eviscerate
Speaker 1: people with two way goes inside, I think that's probably
Speaker 1: the best way to use him. And plus from the slot,
Speaker 1: it's easier to give him carries, it's easier to give
Speaker 1: him screens, all that kind of stuff. Like his best
Speaker 1: way to generate explosive plays is either in the slot
Speaker 1: or as a return man, and I expect he's going
Speaker 1: to see a lot of action there. I don't think
Speaker 1: I've been that's excited about a Dolphins season since, and
Speaker 1: this is a bad example because they have finished that
Speaker 1: year six and ten. But the two thousand and six season,
Speaker 1: we started the year on the Sports Illustrated cover as
Speaker 1: a possible Super Bowl pick with Dante Culpepper. It didn't
Speaker 1: go that way, but that was very exciting time for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins in that summer. I feel similarly this year,
Speaker 1: but even better in a sense. So Jalen wall is
Speaker 1: a big part of that. If you had to give
Speaker 1: the fans a best tape to go watch of this
Speaker 1: kid to really get excited about him, which game would
Speaker 1: that be. It's hard not to say the Auburn game
Speaker 1: from a few years ago, where you know he was
Speaker 1: the fourth receiver. It was Judy, it was Ruggs, it
Speaker 1: was DeVante Smith, who was the de facto number one,
Speaker 1: even though Judy and Ruggs were seen as the high
Speaker 1: end draft prospects. But Jalen Waddle was the wide receiver
Speaker 1: four in that team, and he scored four touchdowns. Pretty
Speaker 1: much every time he touched the ball he scored. It
Speaker 1: was as a return man, as a runner receiver, like
Speaker 1: everything just getting him the ball was an explosive play
Speaker 1: waiting to happen. And that is the tape. If you
Speaker 1: only watch one game of Jalen Waddle to understand why
Speaker 1: he went at six overall, watched that game and he
Speaker 1: showed you some of the traits that he's been showing
Speaker 1: his entire career Alabama, the sudden, quick stop star ability man.
Speaker 1: He's fun to watch, and Brett had referenced a player
Speaker 1: going off the board number eighteen to Miami, who he
Speaker 1: had pegged for the eleventh pick in the draft in
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips. I've shared the YouTube video many many times
Speaker 1: about who the best pass rush prospect in this year's classes,
Speaker 1: and you compared him to a couple of the Watt brothers,
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, this guy's best trade in your estimation, Brett
Speaker 1: is it's it's versatility, you know, It's it's the fact
Speaker 1: that he has explosiveness, he has power, he has length,
Speaker 1: he has fluidity. There's so many pass rushers that come
Speaker 1: out these days where you know they're lighting quick off
Speaker 1: the edge, but they don't have length or power. So
Speaker 1: if they're going up against a really quick footed tackle,
Speaker 1: they don't really have a way to to do a
Speaker 1: counter punch and win in another way. You know, the
Speaker 1: Georgia kid coming out this year is a good example
Speaker 1: of that. Caleban Chase on the year before. You know,
Speaker 1: they were really good speed rushers, but they didn't really
Speaker 1: have another club in the bag that they could turn
Speaker 1: to You look at Jalen Phillips and he's got that
Speaker 1: speed around the edge. He has the ability to bend,
Speaker 1: but he also has a wicked inside counter. He's got power,
Speaker 1: he plays the run very very well. He's very instinctive,
Speaker 1: super high motor player. And you look at like his
Speaker 1: relative athletics score like he is a freak athlete. It's
Speaker 1: not quite like a case young type freakiness, but it's
Speaker 1: not that far off either. And the fact that he
Speaker 1: has a very complete physical profile, the fact that he
Speaker 1: can win in multiple ways, that to me is more
Speaker 1: valuable than anything because it means that it's very hard
Speaker 1: to gain plan for him. It's very hard to know
Speaker 1: exactly what he's gonna do on a snap to snap basis.
Speaker 1: He can keep tackles on their toes. And I think
Speaker 1: that's why they took him is because this is a
Speaker 1: team that wants to be able to generate pressure in
Speaker 1: more ways than just calling zero. They want to be
Speaker 1: able to rush for if they need to rush for,
Speaker 1: because that's how you you know, it's been proven to
Speaker 1: beat some of the other teams they have to go
Speaker 1: through in the a f C, like Kansas City. You've
Speaker 1: got to be able to win with four. You can't
Speaker 1: just generate pressure with blitz Is And that's why they
Speaker 1: took Jalen Phillips is so that they can now actually
Speaker 1: rush with four and still get to the quarterback. The
Speaker 1: opportunities he could create for Immanuel Ogball on the other
Speaker 1: side or vice versa could be very beneficial. I also
Speaker 1: think you kind of see some of that Bret in
Speaker 1: terms of the four man rush, with the shift at
Speaker 1: the safety possession who we're going to talk about here
Speaker 1: and just one second, and the release of Bobby McCain,
Speaker 1: who had a great career here in Miami. He has
Speaker 1: since moved on, But maybe the Dolphins have more flexibility
Speaker 1: in terms of who's going to be the free safety,
Speaker 1: who's gonna be the box safety, who's gonna rotate and
Speaker 1: blitz and all that fun stuff. But I want to
Speaker 1: come back to this with Jalen Phillips. You know, you
Speaker 1: talked about his athletic traits. He was the number one
Speaker 1: player coming out of high school few years back out
Speaker 1: of the state of California, above Nagy Harris and Cam Akers.
Speaker 1: And you also had a great comment in the video
Speaker 1: bread where you talked about his ability to take information
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the game, find out what the
Speaker 1: tackles are doing to beat him, and then use those
Speaker 1: tendencies against those tackles to beat them later in the game.
Speaker 1: Can you talk more about that and just what you
Speaker 1: mean by that. Yeah, I mean you saw that in
Speaker 1: uh in the Clemson game. He was going up against
Speaker 1: the Clemson right tackle I think his last name is McFadden,
Speaker 1: who's got just a wicked inside punch, really really quick,
Speaker 1: really strong, and it was kind of it was giving
Speaker 1: him some problems in that Clemson game because he was
Speaker 1: having trouble kind of judging the distance for when to
Speaker 1: hit that swite of and so he would get caught
Speaker 1: with that inside punch before he could land the swipe,
Speaker 1: and his whole rush would get shut down. And so
Speaker 1: then he kind of switched it up, you know, one
Speaker 1: one drive later basically where he would lead with a
Speaker 1: long arm just to kind of give him a good
Speaker 1: distance measurement that he could really rely on. And then
Speaker 1: as soon as he would make contact with that long
Speaker 1: arm and he would know that the outside hand was coming,
Speaker 1: then he would hit the swipe and finish around the edge.
Speaker 1: So he recognized what was beating him and how he
Speaker 1: could beat that inside punch which was using they called
Speaker 1: a one arm is longer than two Principal defensive line
Speaker 1: coaches call it that where if you just kind of
Speaker 1: angle your shoulder and you you really reach with one arm,
Speaker 1: there's nothing a tackle can do to outreach you, let
Speaker 1: alone when you have thirty four inch arms. So it
Speaker 1: was it was a perfect you know, kind of counter
Speaker 1: to what was beating him, and that to me, showed
Speaker 1: that he really knows what he's doing and it shows
Speaker 1: that he doesn't rely on just one thing to win.
Speaker 1: He can do a variety of things to win. And
Speaker 1: that's really the mark of a great pass rusher in
Speaker 1: the NFL is variety and versatility. I have to imagine
Speaker 1: that's what had coach flora Is very excited in the
Speaker 1: draft room once again for the second straight year after
Speaker 1: taking a defensive lineman. Last year was ray Kwon Davis.
Speaker 1: This year it's Jalen Phillips. What's his best tape this
Speaker 1: in his career, Brett, I mean, it's hard not to
Speaker 1: say the Virginia Tech game, where, other than the Clemson game,
Speaker 1: he was showing, you know, versatility, he was showing the
Speaker 1: ability to adjust the tackles mid game. He had their
Speaker 1: heads spinning with inside moves, outside moves. They had no
Speaker 1: idea what he was gonna throw on a snap to
Speaker 1: snap basis. So again, watch that Virginia Tech game. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's probably the best example of his talent and by
Speaker 1: the way, added bonus for him as a new Miami Dolphin.
Speaker 1: He loves the three oh five. He loves Miami. I
Speaker 1: think he wants to to play hard for the Dolphins
Speaker 1: and he ended up where he wanted to be, which
Speaker 1: for a player transitioning to the NFL is crucial. He
Speaker 1: doesn't really have to change his life that much. He
Speaker 1: can just focus entirely on football in a city that
Speaker 1: he loves, with fans that he already loves. I think
Speaker 1: he's probably got one of the inside tracks the defensive
Speaker 1: rookie of the year, just because he can hit the
Speaker 1: ground running from that. Absolutely, he said after the draft
Speaker 1: that Southern California made him, the three oh five saved him.
Speaker 1: I love that quote from Jalen Phillips. And like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: I think that VOTEG game, it was two or two
Speaker 1: and a half sacks, four and a half tackles for loss,
Speaker 1: and even that felt like it was underselling his performance
Speaker 1: because he was so disruptive in that game, was so
Speaker 1: much fun to watch. Let's move on the day two here,
Speaker 1: and we kind of tease it there in the previous
Speaker 1: segment talking about Javon Holland out of Oregon, and I
Speaker 1: get a feeling, Brett, this guy might be your favorite
Speaker 1: of the bunch. What's his best trade? His best trade
Speaker 1: is the fact that he can basically be anything from
Speaker 1: a range e center field safety to a nickel corner.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about it because he was in
Speaker 1: my Tier one of safeties along with Trayvon, Mary, Tyree
Speaker 1: Gillespie and Andre Cisco, but he was just a different
Speaker 1: kind of safety to me. And I was thinking after
Speaker 1: the after the pick got made, I was like, Man,
Speaker 1: how's Brian Flora is going to use him? Because they
Speaker 1: already have um, you know, Eric Rowe, who was their
Speaker 1: matchup guy for tight ends, and at the time, they
Speaker 1: had Bobby McCain who was a good, you know, center
Speaker 1: fielding free safety. They had Noah who plays in the slot.
Speaker 1: They had Justin Coleman who plays in the slot. I
Speaker 1: was like, where are they going to use him? And
Speaker 1: then it occurred to me I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: Brian Flores already had Devin mccordy for years. They're gonna
Speaker 1: use him exactly like Devin mccordy, which is to say,
Speaker 1: based on the game plan, every single week, he's going
Speaker 1: to have a job. Either he's going to be down
Speaker 1: low playing in the nickel, or he'll play, you know,
Speaker 1: super deep as a free safety, which I think that
Speaker 1: Bobby McCain released today probably signals they want more of
Speaker 1: that out of him. But he is a matchup weapon
Speaker 1: for them because he can do either thing. And I
Speaker 1: think he's a better true free safety than Eric Rowe
Speaker 1: would be. He's a better true free safety than uh
Speaker 1: maybe Brandon Jones would be even and I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of brand and Jones as well. So he is
Speaker 1: going to be there Devin McCarthy because he has almost
Speaker 1: an identical skill set, and I think Brian Flores chose
Speaker 1: him for that reason is because he wanted a guy
Speaker 1: with that kind of flexibility. So when he's moving around
Speaker 1: the formation and he comes down, let's say he is
Speaker 1: playing that single high look or or whatever it might be,
Speaker 1: any he kicks down inside, like who is the next
Speaker 1: best option on the roster to play that position and
Speaker 1: kind of fill his void when he comes out of
Speaker 1: that spot. I mean, I would have said Bobby McCain,
Speaker 1: but I would I would probably say at this point
Speaker 1: Brandon Jones is my best guest because I think Brandon
Speaker 1: Jones also has some range to him. Um, he's kind
Speaker 1: of a diet version of Javon Holland in my opinion, Like,
Speaker 1: if I had to choose one of the two to start, well,
Speaker 1: it kind of depends on how fast Holland picks up
Speaker 1: the defense because it's not like, you know, Flora's is
Speaker 1: running something simple out there. But um, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised if, like by Halloween, Javan is the starting free safety,
Speaker 1: Eric Rose the starting strong safety or potentially a kind
Speaker 1: of weird hybrid dime linebacker. I'm not entirely sure yet.
Speaker 1: Either way, he'll be the tight end guy, and then
Speaker 1: if they go like three safeties on the field, maybe
Speaker 1: Brandon Jones can can hop in. It's very intriguing, and
Speaker 1: that's the thing is that the Bobby McCaine released kind
Speaker 1: of throws a monkey wrench in there, because I I
Speaker 1: thought I knew what they were gonna do, and now
Speaker 1: I don't quite know what they're gonna do, but just
Speaker 1: based on what I know from Javon Holland and Oregon
Speaker 1: and what I know from how you know Flora's used
Speaker 1: Devin McCardy in New England, those two things kind of
Speaker 1: connect the dots for me. I'm excited for that big
Speaker 1: Nickel package where it's Jones and exabing Howard on the
Speaker 1: outside and the three big safeties with with another Jones.
Speaker 1: And then, like you mentioned Eric Rowe as well as
Speaker 1: Javon Holland, if you had to give the fans his
Speaker 1: best tape to watch in his career didn't play this
Speaker 1: past season was an opt out, but nineteen, what's the
Speaker 1: best organ tape to watch for Javon Holland? You know,
Speaker 1: I think it was the Utah game a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago if I remember correctly. And this one is
Speaker 1: interesting because this this was really sending alarm bells where
Speaker 1: it's like, man, that's a that's a Devin mccordy type play,
Speaker 1: and uh, I would watch it just for this play
Speaker 1: that he makes, which is pure instinct. And I guarantee
Speaker 1: you flow sat up in his chair and said, give
Speaker 1: me that dude when he saw this play, he's playing
Speaker 1: outside leverage on the slot and the receiver run the
Speaker 1: running two benders over the middle, and so he's like
Speaker 1: low shoulder outside leverage and he comes off of his
Speaker 1: guy when he's reading the throw going to the other
Speaker 1: bender on the other side, leaves his receiver completely, lays
Speaker 1: out like he's a shortstop trying to catch a line drive,
Speaker 1: and breaks up the bender on the other side from
Speaker 1: the other receiver. Somebody wasn't even responsible for covering. And
Speaker 1: I was like that they you don't even teach that,
Speaker 1: Like every dB coach in league would be like, that's
Speaker 1: not how we draw it up. But whatever. A p
Speaker 1: BU as a PPU. That's the play that I think
Speaker 1: got Javon Holland drafted by the Dolphins. That was the
Speaker 1: PAC twelfth championship game. I think it was, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: I think so. I'm trying to remember if that's the
Speaker 1: same game that Thibodeau absolutely went off in the malish Utah.
Speaker 1: I think that was the same game Tibodeaux. Oh man,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about the prospects we'll say of
Speaker 1: him for next year. He's he's he's the number one
Speaker 1: player on the board going into next year. Hands down,
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and talk about another player that I
Speaker 1: know you like. The Dolphins trade up from fifty to
Speaker 1: forty two to snag who is presumably right now at
Speaker 1: the moment they're starting right tackle, you would think he
Speaker 1: can compete for that job. Of course, Miami is now
Speaker 1: suddenly deep among the offensive line. But Liam Eichenberg, what's
Speaker 1: his best trade? Brett, I would say it's hand usage
Speaker 1: for him. You know, he's not the biggest guy, not
Speaker 1: the most explosive, but he's got really good balance and
Speaker 1: really good hands, and for I think they got him
Speaker 1: in the second round if I remember correctly, Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: pick forty two. You know that that's about where I
Speaker 1: thought he would and should go again. Not super athletic,
Speaker 1: not super long or anything like that, but the fact
Speaker 1: that he knows how to use his hands, and he
Speaker 1: knows how to play with a good base and good balance,
Speaker 1: which in the end, we've seen a lot of very
Speaker 1: athletic tackles with tons of length that don't know how
Speaker 1: to use it wash out of the league. The fact
Speaker 1: that Eikenberg is coming into the NFL with a very good,
Speaker 1: uh technical foundation means that I think he's going to
Speaker 1: be successful. And again for a second round tackle that
Speaker 1: is probably gonna start Day one on the right side
Speaker 1: because you're kicking Robert Hunt into guard. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's playing left guard or right guard, but I
Speaker 1: know they're kicking him inside. Um. That to me was
Speaker 1: a pick very well spent, and for an offense that
Speaker 1: wants to get the ball out list in two and
Speaker 1: a half seconds, he's got the technical foundation to hold
Speaker 1: up at least for that long. So again, I really
Speaker 1: really like to pick. He made a career at No
Speaker 1: Dame of kind of working tackles around the I guess
Speaker 1: the top of the drop of the quarterback there with
Speaker 1: Ian book and kept him protecting without a sack allowed
Speaker 1: in two years. You and I spoke about his resume
Speaker 1: off air because that two years with no sacks allowed
Speaker 1: featured games against Bama and Clemson and all these powerhouse
Speaker 1: programs and good pass rushers. Which one is the best
Speaker 1: tape of of Busch For Liam Eikenberg, I would probably
Speaker 1: say when he went up against Rashad Weaver from pit
Speaker 1: this past year, because neither one of those guys are
Speaker 1: incredible athletes, and so when they win, they both win
Speaker 1: with technique, and so you you saw him really have
Speaker 1: to battle somebody else that has great hand usage, great
Speaker 1: leverage um and it kind of put him into the
Speaker 1: test because Liam has always been a guy that beat
Speaker 1: freak athletes by having just better technique than them, whether
Speaker 1: it was the Bama guys or you know, the Clemson
Speaker 1: guys or anything like that. Like he's always you know,
Speaker 1: he wasn't allowing a whole lot of pressures because he
Speaker 1: just had such good technique. And so going up against
Speaker 1: an equal technician that was also going to be playing
Speaker 1: on Sundays was a fascinating battle. And you know, Rashad
Speaker 1: Rashade gave him the business on a few snaps, but
Speaker 1: Liam overall, I felt won that battle. And also remember
Speaker 1: when you're watching uh Pitts d line, which was just
Speaker 1: very very talented in general, and you see the kind
Speaker 1: of movement that he was generating on double teams with
Speaker 1: Banks right next to him. Uh, it shows what kind
Speaker 1: of run blocker he is as well. So if you
Speaker 1: want to if you want to watch him go up
Speaker 1: against somebody that has NFL level technique, not just NFL
Speaker 1: level athleticism, go watch that pick game against Rashad Weaver,
Speaker 1: who's also going to get a lot of snaps as
Speaker 1: a rookie. So before we get into the fifth or
Speaker 1: the third round, here in the fifth pick of the
Speaker 1: Dolphins and Hunt are long, do you think each of
Speaker 1: those four guys qualifies enough staffs to be considered first
Speaker 1: year starters. Oh? Easily, easily, especially with the I was
Speaker 1: a little bit worried about Holland just because they had
Speaker 1: Iman McCain, But now that McCain's gone, I feel like Holland,
Speaker 1: as their best true center fielder left on the roster,
Speaker 1: is gonna get a lot of snaps just for that alone.
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips is obviously gonna start, Jalen Waddle obviously start,
Speaker 1: and then Lee and Mikenberg. With Hunt moving inside, the
Speaker 1: guard is probably their best option at right tackle now
Speaker 1: as well. So it's very plausible that they got starter, starter, starter, starter,
Speaker 1: back to back to back to back, which is very
Speaker 1: very rare for a draft class, and that's why you
Speaker 1: see Miami getting so many positive grades around the draft landscape.
Speaker 1: But a position that all of a sudden has a
Speaker 1: lot of depth to it is where Miami goes in
Speaker 1: the third round with Boston colleges, Hunter along and coach Flora,
Speaker 1: has had a great just a wide ear to ear
Speaker 1: grint about how we have to get a Boston College
Speaker 1: player because there tough, smart, physical team first guys just
Speaker 1: lets it off all the traits that he basically learned
Speaker 1: himself as a prep and then also at Boston College
Speaker 1: as a college football player. Hunter Long, what is his
Speaker 1: best trade for you? I would say ball skills. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not as explosive as Gisicky, but I think he
Speaker 1: was one of the best contested catch tight ends in
Speaker 1: this class. And so you know, knock on wood, if
Speaker 1: Gisicky goes down, you have another guy that can come
Speaker 1: in and still do a lot of work in the
Speaker 1: red zone. He's very capable blocker. Is he a super
Speaker 1: explosive athlete. No, that's why he went in the third
Speaker 1: round compared to some of the tight ends that went
Speaker 1: ahead of him, like arm Mo than obviously Pits. But um,
Speaker 1: he's very good at just understanding leverage, finding ways to
Speaker 1: get open. You know he's going to be uh it's
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like third, no, no pun intended, third
Speaker 1: and long, and he's gonna be able to like just
Speaker 1: find a hole in the zone, sit down, and just
Speaker 1: be a reliable receiver for two of whereas Gaseki is
Speaker 1: more of like the oh my god, I can't just
Speaker 1: believe he made that catch kind of tight end. Hunter
Speaker 1: Long is the when did he get six catches? Tight end?
Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna realize that he's gonna pile up stats,
Speaker 1: but he will, just like he did at BC, just
Speaker 1: sitting in the hole, being reliable. Get him work in
Speaker 1: the red zone. He'll never blow you away, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna look up at the end of the year and
Speaker 1: he'll have like fifty or sixty catches and you won't
Speaker 1: remember a single one, but they're all gonna be important.
Speaker 1: A stat to your point, he had eleven contested catches
Speaker 1: last year, which was third among all tight ends according
Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus. If you had to highlight one
Speaker 1: tape for Hunter Long to go back and watch, which
Speaker 1: one would it be? Oh? Man, um, you know the
Speaker 1: BC quarterback Jurkovic, who's also very very talented, wildly inconsistent,
Speaker 1: but very very talented. Uh. You you could see in
Speaker 1: the few games, the Virginia game, the North Carolina game
Speaker 1: where pretty much any time he was in trouble. He
Speaker 1: was throwing at the Hunter Long because he knew he
Speaker 1: would catch it. And that's Hunter Long's role again, it's
Speaker 1: sit down, be a check down, make a catch, Rescue
Speaker 1: plays that shouldn't work and make them work. And so
Speaker 1: I think you watched the Virginia game in the UNC game, uh,
Speaker 1: you'll you'll definitely see that quality to him kind of
Speaker 1: like like again, I don't want to compare him to
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, but like later stage career Jason Witten,
Speaker 1: where athletically speaking, there was no way he should have
Speaker 1: gotten open as much as he did. But just the
Speaker 1: fact that he understood coverages so well and he had
Speaker 1: such good hands, he would still end up with a
Speaker 1: lot of catches at the end of the year. Watch
Speaker 1: the Virginia game, in the North Carolina game, and maybe
Speaker 1: even the PIT game as well, and that will kind
Speaker 1: of give you a good understanding of what he is
Speaker 1: as a prospect. Help me with a little bit of
Speaker 1: a hole in my scouting and I own process here, Brat,
Speaker 1: because I know it's one thing that he did a
Speaker 1: lot was what he kind of approaches the point of
Speaker 1: contact into the route, like when he's in the stem,
Speaker 1: he has this little subtle movie he does where he
Speaker 1: gets his arm over the like extended arms of the
Speaker 1: defensive back and it helps him like slingshot and create
Speaker 1: leverage that way. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: And what is that called? Yeah, it's almost I mean,
Speaker 1: it's very similar to what they call a slingshot technique,
Speaker 1: ironically enough for a corner where it's about creating contacts
Speaker 1: so that you can It's it's one thing to like
Speaker 1: read a player with your eyes, but if you can
Speaker 1: feel a player, you can feel his little weight shifts
Speaker 1: or possibly influence those little subtle shifts and body weight
Speaker 1: with your own hands. Um. You know, some coaches also
Speaker 1: call it a shoulder ride technique, but that's a little
Speaker 1: bit different. It's the fact that you can feel a defender,
Speaker 1: you can feel how they move, and in your brain
Speaker 1: you respond to that quicker than visual information. You respond
Speaker 1: to touch faster, and so if you can feel just
Speaker 1: a little tiny minute shift and body weight, you'll know
Speaker 1: exactly when to plant and go. And again, I think
Speaker 1: he's a very physical tight end because he he feels
Speaker 1: defenders so that he knows when to work against their leverage.
Speaker 1: And that's why even though he's not super athletic, he
Speaker 1: does get open a lot is because he knows exactly
Speaker 1: when to cut and how to cut. Brett Coleman The
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Speaker 1: I won't ask you to give me the best game
Speaker 1: tape and all that fun stuff. In the two seventh round, guys,
Speaker 1: we had a hundred and fifty pick weight. That was
Speaker 1: the longest way between picks and Dolphins franchise history. But
Speaker 1: Larnel Coleman out of you mass Jared Doakes out of Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: give us your quick just run down those two guys
Speaker 1: if you can, real quick. Well. Full disclosure, I did
Speaker 1: not get to watch Coleman because Massachusetts tape shocker, I know,
Speaker 1: is a little bit hard to come by. But the
Speaker 1: Dolphins have better resources than me on that one, so
Speaker 1: I'll trust them. Uh. And then Dokes I did watch it,
Speaker 1: and his main thing that I really liked was pas protection.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see him as a super dynamic runner,
Speaker 1: but if you throw him in there on third down
Speaker 1: as a past protector, I think it's gonna be really reliable. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're just doing like check releases and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Again, you're not asking him to do
Speaker 1: a whole lot. But I think TA will appreciate him
Speaker 1: because you can actually rely on him to stop a
Speaker 1: linebacker dead in his tracks on third down, which in
Speaker 1: itself is a valuable skill set. Absolutely it is. And
Speaker 1: I talk about the film Room channel on YouTube. And
Speaker 1: one of the perks of your job and being self employed, Brett,
Speaker 1: is that you're gonna go around the National Football League
Speaker 1: landscape and go to several games every year. I know
Speaker 1: last year probably didn't work out that way for you,
Speaker 1: but you've got the schedule cranking out this year. Are
Speaker 1: we gonna be on your stop list? Is all down
Speaker 1: here in South Florida? And can I take you to
Speaker 1: get a nice glass of bourbon together sometime on Saturday night?
Speaker 1: I definitely want to. You know. I have a few
Speaker 1: games circled on the calendar, and ironically most of them
Speaker 1: involved the a f C East. Hum fingers crossed that
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Dolphins play in Miami sometime after Halloween.
Speaker 1: That would be perfect for me to catch the best
Speaker 1: part of Miami weather. You know, I get to avoid
Speaker 1: the lightning and the rains and stuff like that. I
Speaker 1: would absolutely love that either way, anytime like November December,
Speaker 1: if I can get down to Miami for a game,
Speaker 1: I would love that. And I'll show you around South Florida.
Speaker 1: I don't know the area that well yet, but I
Speaker 1: know it enough to take you to a couple of
Speaker 1: spots we can get, uh, get nice and loose and
Speaker 1: have a good time and talk some football. Maybe you
Speaker 1: watch some college football on a Saturday night. Brett Coleman,
Speaker 1: The Film Room, the Bootleg Football Podcast. What are you
Speaker 1: working on now? Man? Vacation time and also correct me
Speaker 1: if I got your social handles wrong earlier. No, No,
Speaker 1: you're good. I In terms of what I'm working on now,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of doing a We'll about to do a
Speaker 1: division by division breakdown of every single you know, draft pick,
Speaker 1: free agency pickup, U d F, A coaching change. It's
Speaker 1: it's kind of a series that I do every summer
Speaker 1: on my podcast, uh, where I I give a whole
Speaker 1: entire landscape of what the NFL looks like, team by team,
Speaker 1: division by division, and then over on the Film Room,
Speaker 1: I'm working on a few very very large projects, so
Speaker 1: there's nothing coming out for the rest of May, but
Speaker 1: in June and into July, I'm doing, uh, some kind
Speaker 1: of big breakdowns on the big Fangio slash Brandon Staley defense.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at how Justin Fields is going to transition
Speaker 1: from Ohio State to Matt Naggie's defense, and then I'm
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about kind of trying to decipher what the
Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna do um with combining Ohio State's offense
Speaker 1: under Urban Meyer, who happened to have their playbook under Urban,
Speaker 1: and then Darryl Bebel's offense and I have Bevil's playbooks.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of go through both of
Speaker 1: those as well as you know what Trevor was good
Speaker 1: at at Clemson and trying to throw them all together
Speaker 1: in one video and figure out what the Jaguars are
Speaker 1: gonna be trying to do on offense. So I we'll
Speaker 1: see it might be very very long, but we'll see
Speaker 1: how that goes well. It sounds good, man, I know,
Speaker 1: as always, will be very well produced and very well
Speaker 1: put together, and we'll look forward to that to sophomore
Speaker 1: season breakout video right around week eight or nine. Sound
Speaker 1: good sounds give them there, I can't wait, all right, Brett,
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, Man, appreciate it. Brett Coleman, the Film Room,
Speaker 1: the Bootleg Podcast, and of course at Brett Coleman. It's
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Speaker 1: Man and away he goes. Fun podcast every time we
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