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Speaker 1: What Is Up?

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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Boy oh boys, it as we won.

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Speaker 2: I wish we could have taken Game four from Theres

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. We let him off the hook and uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Mets end up splitting, taking the series from the Padres

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Speaker 2: on the season five to this year. That's how I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna spin this to be crazy. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be that guy. I'm gonna say that the

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Speaker 2: sky is not falling. There's way too much, way too

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Speaker 2: much sky is falling narrative right now on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying this guy is falling, but I'm saying

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Speaker 3: that sucked. That was That was a swift kick in

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Speaker 3: the day, and I feel significantly worse about not the season,

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Speaker 3: but about the weekend just because of that one game. Sure,

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Speaker 3: of course we will talk about everything going on in

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Speaker 3: this series, because there is so much to talk about

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Speaker 3: from the four games in San Diego. Big series coming

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Speaker 3: up against the Arizona Diamonbacks. Got a little special guest,

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Speaker 3: Dalton Kates live from Arizona, Big Diamondbacks fan, good friend

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Speaker 3: of ours, so you guys will enjoy that if you

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Speaker 3: want to hear what a Diamondbacks fan even sounds like.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you don't even know about them as a

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Speaker 3: Mets fan. You probably never met one, honestly, but hopefully

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Speaker 3: last episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, missed the last episode. I feel like we can

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Speaker 2: get something from him. We got one nice, We got

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Speaker 2: one from Frankie Peppers. Now everyone's gonna stay to the end.

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Speaker 2: Links will be in the description. All right, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about this series. The Mets did not play poorly, but

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Speaker 2: they didn't play well. They didn't lose any ground, but

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Speaker 2: they also didn't gain any ground. It was a very

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Speaker 2: very bittersweet series. And to be fair, this is something

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Speaker 2: we talked about before this. Everyone was putting so much

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Speaker 2: pressure on these two series, and rightfully so. But the

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Speaker 2: narrative was, this is either gonna save the Mets season

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Speaker 2: or this is gonna end the Mets season.

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Speaker 1: And what do you know? Nothing changed?

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's all. That's a that's just me

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Speaker 3: the classic Jinks. I tried to Jinx and night things.

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Speaker 3: Do you catch what I tried to Jinks and text you?

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Speaker 3: I was like, Edwin Diez doesn't look right. Of course

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Speaker 3: was too on with that one. But it's just bittersweet,

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Speaker 3: Like it's so bittersweet because we're stuck in this area

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Speaker 3: where the Mets had I don't know, they lost on

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Speaker 3: Friday resoundingly. Joe mus Grove is still a chee there

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Speaker 3: somehow Someway Joe. But yeah, Jeet and Joe, Joe with

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Speaker 3: the shiny ears. It's just that game Sunday, while you

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Speaker 3: to win. Yes, and it's not it's not like anyone's

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Speaker 3: it was just there weren't even that many opportunities to

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Speaker 1: That's unbelievable that these.

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Speaker 3: Guys start coming in the game. You have no fucking

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to get into a playoff series with them, truly.

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Speaker 2: No, and this, this is truly what happens with the

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Speaker 2: Padres for the last three years. Is one of the

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Speaker 2: The thing too, with this game, it was very much

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Speaker 2: It has been Francisco Lindor, it has been Jad Martin,

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Speaker 2: But we do need we need someone else on the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the best of the one this game Sunday. This

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Speaker 3: You're placing a lefty, you switch those two? Does that

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Speaker 2: Is because like those guys haven't been a hitting so

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Speaker 2: Lindor and Vento's in their spots and it's like, let's

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Speaker 2: And that's kind of been how the Mets have been

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Speaker 1: Where can we get them that's working. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Again, like I know you're not saying this is why

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oddly, the one I had the most trouble with

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Speaker 3: he said, he said, Martin Perez has been of a

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Speaker 1: He throws sinkers low. That's where he hit the home

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Speaker 3: So just like in this individual matchup, you can kind

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Speaker 3: of feel that JD is one of your best hitters

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Speaker 1: Now we're getting on here.

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Speaker 3: But if any guy who I want to have the

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Speaker 3: Hi hit this whole home run, it makes it more

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Speaker 3: frustrating because Lindor take again, these things aren't apples and

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Speaker 3: Orange is like, you wouldn't have hit the home run

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Speaker 3: I'm really getting my minuscule microcosm here, But it's just

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Speaker 3: it's just first of your manager shot like change it up,

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Speaker 3: change up, change it up, change it up.

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Speaker 1: I think it might be a little too much.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that I and I know that

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Speaker 2: And I know he technically hasn't really played bad, but

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Speaker 2: I am just frustrated by the equality.

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Speaker 1: Of his at bats. Consistently throughout the game.

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Speaker 2: just kind of goes up there. And maybe this isn't fair.

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Speaker 1: It's infuriating.

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Speaker 2: And while Lindor's vibes are amazing, Viento's vibes are amazing,

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Speaker 2: Jesse Winkers vibes have been amazing, it's really tough to

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Speaker 1: Every single day.

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Speaker 3: Jokic plays basketball. He's just not the best player on there,

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Speaker 1: This stuff's registering. So it's just it's just this. This

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Speaker 3: Hit pitches get high hit his figure out what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: You also got to hit better the same same problems

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Speaker 3: If we just lost this game the way we lost

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Speaker 3: not win a series in Arizona. You're back in the

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Speaker 3: mix oxact. You should have won this game, not should

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Speaker 3: have could have won this game. That's the hit. That's

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Speaker 3: the part that hurts.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the defense, by the way in this series,

437
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Speaker 1: just so phenomenal. Jose Igleasias made one of the craziest

438
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Speaker 1: players I've seen a long time on that hit and

439
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Speaker 1: run with Profar up the middle. He died.

440
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Speaker 2: He's covering because the runners ceiling. Profar hits a piss

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Speaker 2: missile up the middle. He basically grabs it backhanded the

442
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Speaker 2: other way, falls down, just barely touch a second base

443
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Speaker 2: with his foot, and then attempts to even try to

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Speaker 2: get him at first base.

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Speaker 1: Just roll the ball to Pee Alonzo. That was a

446
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Speaker 1: phenomenal play.

447
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Speaker 2: Jesse Winker made a great play in the outfield on

448
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Speaker 2: Saturday with that diving catch to save a run.

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Speaker 1: Just really good stuff all round. It's just the bat.

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Speaker 2: The bats need to wake up a little bit more

451
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Speaker 2: right now, it can't be the two guys that are

452
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Speaker 2: doing all the heavy lifting and hopefully, like this lineup

453
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Speaker 2: is good, I don't think this is a bad offensive team.

454
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Speaker 2: We've seen this team for one hundred and thirty games

455
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Speaker 2: be really good at the plate. It just sucks that

456
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Speaker 2: they are so hot and cold as an entire team.

457
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Speaker 2: Like what this lineup would be so different if if

458
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Speaker 2: Pete could just get hot, or if Nemo could just

459
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Speaker 2: get hot, give us even one more guy to go

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Speaker 2: along with Vientos and Lindor and things would be looking different.

461
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Speaker 2: With this Diamondback series coming up, and we'll do that

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Speaker 2: preview a little bit later, they're gonna have to hit

463
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Speaker 2: because this Diamondbacks team can score a ship ton of

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Speaker 2: runs quickly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: God, just.

467
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Speaker 3: Thursday felt like the offense might have come around, had

468
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Speaker 3: won seventeen hits and they crushed Dylan Ceas.

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Speaker 1: Which which I think they might have.

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Speaker 3: They might have had something on Dylan Seas because if

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Speaker 3: you look at Dylan Cees' game locked this year, it's

472
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Speaker 3: it's completely outstanding, except for literally two starts against the

473
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Speaker 3: Mets where he was crushed. So watching the way to

474
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Speaker 3: hit in that game. But yeah, maybe they are. Maybe

475
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Speaker 3: he's tipping something just against the Mets. Maybe we picked

476
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Speaker 3: something up the rest of the league does not know.

477
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Speaker 3: But here Dylan Cease is a his hit. We almost

478
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Speaker 3: scored three runs off him on that game. What well

479
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Speaker 3: they pulled him early in the in the seventh.

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Speaker 1: Wait he got pulled in the seventh. Dollard came out earlier. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Lanta, we had too much fun that night. We

482
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Speaker 1: did have a lot of fun. That was a good night.

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Speaker 3: Well, such a great night. He pitched into the seventh

484
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Speaker 3: game nine hits and only three two earned.

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Speaker 1: I guess there's just nine hits. Maybe that's what nine

486
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Speaker 1: hits was hit. But then we got all the runs

487
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Speaker 1: late in off the ballpen.

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Speaker 3: But but, but the rest of this series, no one

489
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Speaker 3: really did anything on offense beside San Francisco door and

490
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Speaker 3: the Marquians at the home run today and j D.

491
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Speaker 3: But he won the game single handedly on Saturday night,

492
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Speaker 3: and it's just the rest of the teams kind of

493
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Speaker 3: like watching right now. Yeah, I mean, Harrison Bader before

494
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Speaker 3: his home run on Saturday was over his last twenty

495
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Speaker 3: which was understandable because we know Harrison Bader as a hitter,

496
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Speaker 3: it's a little bit not very good, never was, never was,

497
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Speaker 3: don't be fooled. Great defense, love him and yeah I

498
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Speaker 3: love him in center field, but he's not here to

499
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Speaker 3: swing the bat. Uh yeah, it's it's bizarre. The way

500
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Speaker 3: that they attack Cease was so awesome, so awesome.

501
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Speaker 2: They were aggressive early and this is something that we

502
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Speaker 2: did not see when Joe Muskrove was in the game.

503
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Speaker 2: And I hated the approach against Joe Musgrove. Granted he

504
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Speaker 2: diced us up. He is a good pitcher. We say

505
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Speaker 2: cheating Joe all the time, but that's more so for

506
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Speaker 2: the memes. Because the Padres fans. Oh, that's another reason

507
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Speaker 2: why I wanted to beat them so bad. Toadres fans

508
00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,800
Speaker 2: are the whiniest fucking fans in all of baseball. Complaining

509
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Speaker 2: about the shadow of the ball going over third baseball.

510
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Speaker 2: Do you guys, don't how fucking shadows work. It's not

511
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Speaker 2: exactly where the ball is, and the third base umpire

512
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Speaker 2: was standing literally right there, like there's no way he

513
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Speaker 2: misses that call. Complaining about that like they just have

514
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Speaker 2: something to say for everything. For a fan base that

515
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Speaker 2: is just relatively a bunch of losers out there. They

516
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Speaker 2: got great weather and nothing else, never won anything in

517
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Speaker 2: their life. It's impressive how confident they were, especially when

518
00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 2: they didn't exist, what three or four years ago, these fans,

519
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,640
Speaker 2: so I would really love to stick it to them.

520
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,240
Speaker 2: I got really nervous when Luise Rice came to the

521
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Speaker 2: plate and he had a chance to tie the game up,

522
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Speaker 2: take a lead, but luckily he was played selfish baseball.

523
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Speaker 2: Tried to hit the home run, hit it three hundred

524
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Speaker 2: and eighty feet. But back to where I was going

525
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Speaker 2: here with this, wait.

526
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Speaker 3: I'll tell my little Padres story. I tell every golf

527
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Speaker 3: story that quickly, just in case we have some Padres

528
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Speaker 3: hate fans hate listening. But tell all the Padres fans

529
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Speaker 3: out there, you guys, as an organization were only built

530
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Speaker 3: to be a whipping boy for the Dodgers. Just so

531
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Speaker 3: you know that, Walter O'Malley installed Buzzy Vassi as the

532
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Speaker 3: president for the Padres, and you guys came on as

533
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Speaker 3: an expansion team because he knew that Pavasi was not

534
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Speaker 3: very smart, he would always be able to take advantage

535
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Speaker 3: of him, and he didn't want any kind of very

536
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Speaker 3: successful team taking away from the Southern California market.

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Speaker 1: So just know that you only exist to lose to

538
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers, but go on, go on.

539
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Speaker 2: So wrapping it all around here, I hated the approach

540
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Speaker 2: on Friday against Joe Musgrove. It felt like, because Muscrove

541
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Speaker 2: has not thrown a lot of innings yet since coming

542
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Speaker 2: back from the injury, hasn't thrown a lot of pitches,

543
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Speaker 2: that the Mets went with the the mindset of we're

544
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Speaker 2: gonna be very patient at the plate. We're gonna knock

545
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Speaker 2: him out of this game because his pitch count can't

546
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Speaker 2: go very high, and the Mets have done this in

547
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Speaker 2: the past with pitchers, and I fucking hate it because you.

548
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Speaker 1: Jumped all over Dylancy's jumped all over him.

549
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Speaker 2: He has better stuffed than Joe Musgrove, debatably, like he

550
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Speaker 2: is a better pitcher.

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Speaker 1: Muscove is very good, but I'll push back.

552
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Speaker 3: The Mets swung a lot in this game, much more

553
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Speaker 3: than their average and the regular season average swung up

554
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Speaker 3: more than fifty percent of Muscro's pitches. But with that,

555
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Speaker 3: he threw almost seventy percent of his pitches in the

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Speaker 3: strike zone.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they were down oh one oh two because

559
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Speaker 2: it felt like they were just taking taking taking, and

560
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Speaker 2: I'm so like I've talked about this on the podcast

561
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Speaker 2: so much before. I'm so tired of seeing the Mets

562
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Speaker 2: hitters take pitches in the heart of the zone, be

563
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Speaker 2: down oh one to O two, and then swing at

564
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Speaker 2: a shit curveball or a shit slider out of his

565
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Speaker 2: zone because they feel like they have to chase and

566
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Speaker 2: not strike out, so they're swinging like that approach was

567
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Speaker 2: terrible And I hate to just keep going at Eric

568
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 2: Shavaz here, but I am completely lost as to what

569
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Speaker 2: he does every single day. It seems like there is

570
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Speaker 2: a clear disconnect from how baseball should be played from

571
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Speaker 2: an offensive standpoint and what he does.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk about Eric Schabas because he is this

573
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Speaker 3: week's media marvel, So I don't know if we want

574
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Speaker 3: to do that now or get to it. But I

575
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Speaker 3: think there's also a game we won't do now. Yeah,

576
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Speaker 3: talk about now, will listen to media marvels. It's just

577
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Speaker 3: a it's an overarching thing.

578
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Speaker 2: We don't have to be like now, it's onto the

579
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Speaker 2: media marvels. If if it's topical, we can and I

580
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Speaker 2: think the conversation about Javaz is topical because he had

581
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Speaker 2: some quotes and they were bad, super bad quotes. I

582
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Speaker 2: don't think most of the people in the baseball or

583
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Speaker 2: in the Mets world are gonna think that same thing.

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Speaker 1: But we'll explain to you why it's so bad.

585
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to keep that a second because one

586
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Speaker 3: day we hate we do have to get this sponsored

587
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Speaker 3: by somebody, so we could do the medium Marvel, sponsor

588
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 3: by you know, the New York Times, Like that's something

589
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Speaker 3: that's in the future for this podcast.

590
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Speaker 1: Maybe.

591
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Speaker 3: But Eric Shabaz came out an article with Tim Healy

592
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Speaker 3: and basically said that franciscoalv As is listening to the

593
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Speaker 3: wrong people's I guess the best way to put it.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to find the exact quote in the article

595
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Speaker 3: right now. Again, amazing work by Tim Healy, as always, Yeah,

596
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Speaker 3: what we could be part of the wrong I guess

597
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Speaker 3: it could have been us. I've been trying to tell

598
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Speaker 3: him for the past couple of weeks. He's a high

599
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 3: performance sports car. He needs to learn how to drive

600
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Speaker 3: the sports car in the second gear because he's got

601
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Speaker 3: fourth gear fifth year and it goes. He just needs

602
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Speaker 3: to learn how to pump the brakes a little bit

603
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Speaker 3: and control that horsepower. I told him, listen, you had

604
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Speaker 3: twenty five home runs last year, that's great. It looked

605
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Speaker 3: at your year, I don't think it was very good.

606
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of areas that you could get better at.

607
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Speaker 3: Everybody wants to jump to jump into home runs. We've

608
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Speaker 3: seen in across the league. We promote home runs. Batting

609
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Speaker 3: average doesn't get talked about. Headed him in a couple

610
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Speaker 3: of years, you could be one of the best hitting

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Speaker 3: catchers in the league.

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Speaker 1: But you have to learn how to hit first. Let's

613
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Speaker 1: get your hit tool down. The power will come. It's there.

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Speaker 3: The powers is in the bag. You got to make

615
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Speaker 3: sure that the hit tool consistency is there. That This

616
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Speaker 3: is sab fucking horrible thing to hear from a hitting

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Speaker 3: coach for a young catcher who looks like he could

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Speaker 3: be one of the best. And I eve just catches

619
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Speaker 3: in the league the best power hitters in the league,

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Speaker 3: because we know a lot from baseball over the last

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Speaker 3: few years. The name of the game has put the

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Speaker 3: ball in the air and pulled the ball as much

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Speaker 3: as you can.

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Speaker 1: It is. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I for the old school people out there listening to this.

626
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Speaker 3: And I'm sure, of course this maybe shouldn't be your

627
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: approach and all counts in all situations, against all George,

628
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Speaker 3: But the end of the day, when you come up

629
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Speaker 3: with a man on first and one out in the

630
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Speaker 3: third inning, you should take a fucking hack if you're

631
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Speaker 3: Francisco Alphians, because that's what you do best.

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Speaker 2: And I think this is what gets lost sometimes, And

633
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Speaker 2: even in this argument of the hitting philosophy, right, like

634
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Speaker 2: the old heads get really mad at us for saying,

635
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Speaker 2: pull the ball, pull it in the air, don't care.

636
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Speaker 1: But the approach changes with the count. The approach changes

637
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Speaker 1: with the situation.

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Speaker 2: And when it's oh oh one to oh two, oh

639
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Speaker 2: two to one until two strikes, Francisco Alfare should be

640
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Speaker 2: looking to do heavy damage every single time he gets

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Speaker 2: to the plate.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, that's why he did his entire career.

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Speaker 2: How do you think he got to the majors as

644
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Speaker 2: a twenty one year old because the dude went up there,

645
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Speaker 2: took fucking daddy hacks, pulled the baseball, hit it hard.

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Speaker 1: In the air.

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Speaker 2: And now it seems like he's being told, hey, you

648
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Speaker 2: know how you were so good at all these great things,

649
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Speaker 2: don't do it and you know who else I think

650
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Speaker 2: is a product of this too, And I'm gonna bring

651
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Speaker 2: them up again, Brett fucking Baty, because when he goes

652
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: to the miners, he pulls the ball, hits it in

653
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: the air, does a great job. He comes to the

654
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 2: majors and it looks like they're looking for singles. And

655
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: I don't want any of my players looking for singles.

656
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: That's not how you win baseball games. It's it's such

657
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: a bad approach in this is something that me and

658
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: you have heard behind the scenes. Yeah, and it sucks

659
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: to hear that that's true. It sucks to hear that's true.

660
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Speaker 2: All the good offenses they don't do this shit. Mark

661
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Speaker 2: Viento's isn't doing the shit. He's putting the ball in

662
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Speaker 2: the air, he's hitting the ball hard, He's not looking

663
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Speaker 2: to hit singles.

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Speaker 3: The painful part is that Chavez did say the quiet

665
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Speaker 3: part of that loud saying, we want to teach these

666
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Speaker 3: guys about like how to have a higher batting average.

667
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Speaker 3: And I think that sometimes this coaching across all sports.

668
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Speaker 3: I think people conflate successive individual players to the product

669
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Speaker 3: of a system where a guy like Mark Viento's I

670
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Speaker 3: think he's assented this year because he has not tried

671
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Speaker 3: to pull the ball. But that's also not That's not

672
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Speaker 3: Viano's style of a hitter, Like that's not similar to

673
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Speaker 3: jaj Marteens. If you were demanding these guys pull the ball,

674
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Speaker 3: they probably wouldn't be as good. But Fiendo's has this

675
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 3: kind of power. He gets nice loft on his swing anyway,

676
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Speaker 3: and the ball is low on the balls outside that

677
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: he's able to get power of the opposite field. But

678
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 3: that's not Alvarez. Alvarez as his best when he is

679
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 3: pulling the ball, when he's getting around on fastballs. And

680
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: Alfarez last year was a murder of fastballs. He crushed them.

681
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Speaker 3: This year he's not. It's changed a lot this year.

682
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: Always a run value of plus one against fastballs. Last

683
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: year was nine. It was one of the best run

684
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Speaker 3: values one hundred pitches for a fastball for any catcher

685
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Speaker 3: in the league. And the other ugly things about Alvera

686
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Speaker 3: is looking at a Savam page right now, you know they

687
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Speaker 3: give a similarity score for all players.

688
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Speaker 1: I think it was Brett Baity right.

689
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Speaker 3: Number one similarity score right in Alfricisco Alverrez. Brett Baity

690
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Speaker 3: out of twenty four and that's just scared the shit

691
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Speaker 3: out of people. I'm not pulling off. I'm not saying

692
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: anything bad about these guys for their career. But when

693
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: you look at Alvarez more, he's pulling the ball on

694
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Speaker 3: average ten percentage points less this year and he is

695
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Speaker 3: last year, while hitting it to the opposite field twelve

696
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: percentage points more this year and last year and then

697
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Speaker 3: will not make him successful.

698
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Speaker 2: And just to wrap everybody's heads around this as to

699
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Speaker 2: why that is so bad, Why pulling the baseball is

700
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Speaker 2: so much more important than hating the ball in the

701
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Speaker 2: opposite field. You physically cannot hit the ball harder the

702
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Speaker 2: other way. It is not something you can do. Artist

703
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: you hit the ball is when you pull the ball,

704
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: or even up the middle. I'll give you that pull

705
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Speaker 2: side up the middle. That's where you're gonna hit the

706
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: ball the hardest. And you know what happens. When you

707
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: hit the ball the hardest, you get more hits. Look

708
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: at the stats for exit velos. When you hit the

709
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: ball harder, you get more hits, you do more damage,

710
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Speaker 2: You are more valuable to your team at the plate.

711
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Speaker 2: When you're putting the ball to opposite field. When you're

712
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 2: hitting the ball softly, when you're looking for singles, you

713
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: are not doing as much damage. Look at what happened

714
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: to Jeff mndially stop trying to feel for the ball.

715
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Speaker 2: He started pulling it a lot more, and he's looked

716
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Speaker 2: like he's back to his old self. Like there is

717
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Speaker 2: just there's a disconnect right now between what modern hitters

718
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: should be doing, how hitting should be approached. And you're right,

719
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Speaker 2: not every hitter is the same. You have to look

720
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Speaker 2: at these guys on individual basis. But for Francisco Alvarez,

721
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 2: he is at his best when he's pulling the baseball

722
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Speaker 2: and he's putting it in the air.

723
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Speaker 3: I think I don't think it's really a disconnect across

724
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Speaker 3: the board. I think there's just these certain coaches players disconnect.

725
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Speaker 4: That's what.

726
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying like that. Okay, I guess that is

727
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Speaker 1: literally the discanct.

728
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Speaker 3: But just to get a very soft, rough difference of

729
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Speaker 3: pulling the ball over sitting the ball the other way.

730
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Speaker 3: Every single ball that's been pulled this year in Major

731
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: League Baseball, it's happened thirty eight thousand times. The slash

732
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: line is three sixty one with a six ninety one

733
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Speaker 3: slugging and a four to ten x WOA. That's disgusting,

734
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Speaker 3: by the way, that is the best player in the league.

735
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Speaker 3: If you pull the ball, that was Aaron Judge. And

736
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: then for all balls that have been hit opposite field,

737
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Speaker 3: twenty five thousand of them, two ninety four, four thirty

738
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Speaker 3: three with a two seventy seven x whoba, so significantly

739
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: less power, significantly less extra base hits potential.

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Speaker 1: It's just the truth.

741
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 3: That's us it again, there are some situations for every

742
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: single player we should be looking to put the ball

743
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: the other way, looking to reach, looking to get a

744
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: base hit. For Francisco Alvarez, ninety percent of the swings

745
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: he takes, he should be up there taking fucking daddy hacks.

746
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: And right now, for some reason, his people in his

747
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: ear telling him not to, rather than not telling him

748
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: to move a half an inch close to the play

749
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Speaker 3: and maybe stop being obsessed with covering low and outside pitch.

750
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: You could poke it the other way for a single

751
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: because we don't give a fuck about that.

752
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: Couldn't care less two strikes, go put the ball in play.

753
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm all about putting the ball and

754
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: play with a two strike approach. But when it's hitters

755
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 2: count be up there looking to do damage. And you

756
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: see that with the two best hitters on the Mets

757
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: right now, Francisco Indoor and Mark Vinzo's are always looking

758
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: to do damage. Lindor does not have the power that

759
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: Francisco Averrez has, not even close to the power, but

760
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: yet he's able to capitalize because he jumps.

761
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: On those pitches. It's not close.

762
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Speaker 2: He Francisco Over's got like such so much insane raw power.

763
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Speaker 1: It's it's ridiculous.

764
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 2: Francis Lindor has great power for a shortstop, good hit

765
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: or love him our fucking MVP.

766
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Speaker 1: This guy is such a king.

767
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Speaker 2: But this is this is the thing that annoyed us

768
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: the most when that when that quote came out. When

769
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: I saw that, I was sick to my stomach because

770
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: we'd heard about this and now for it to be

771
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: out there in the public, I'm like, fuck, he might

772
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Speaker 2: just be stupid.

773
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Speaker 1: Yea.

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Speaker 3: This also is yeah, yeah, a lot of this can

775
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: can come out in something called fast swing rate, and

776
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Speaker 3: I'm seeing right now that's not fast winger.

777
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Speaker 1: The new backtracking stuff on baseball savon.

778
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Speaker 3: I think generally it's a lot of noise and nothing

779
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: that's like super important to talking about a player. But

780
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 3: I do think that it's really good at telling us

781
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: these like little tiny stories about stuff and what it

782
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: could happen. And we've seen recently Nolan Aranado just got

783
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: hot out of nowhere. He's swinging the hardest he has

784
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: all year. Now he's finds his power. Alva As has

785
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: taken a lower percentage of what are called fast swings,

786
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: which is relative to your normal swing.

787
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Speaker 1: How much hard are your swing as of late the

788
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Speaker 1: last two months.

789
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Speaker 3: I think that probably a shob is telling him to chill,

790
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: to tone it down, and to not look for the

791
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: power as much more, just look for the batting average, which.

792
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Speaker 2: Is bad, stupid bad. That's why Eric Schavez is our

793
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: big media marvel for this episode. Absolutely terrible. Now on

794
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: the good side of media marvel stuff. On the good

795
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: side of some quotes that came out Francisco Lindor, if

796
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 2: you're not a fan of him now, I don't know

797
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: what it's gonna take because besides the amazing play on

798
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Speaker 2: the field, besides being the most valuable player statistically in

799
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Speaker 2: the National League, Francisco Lindor spoke to Jeff passon statistically.

800
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Speaker 1: F four spoke to Jeff Passon.

801
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: And he gave some amazing quotes talking about Yeah, it

802
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: really was. It was. It was Met fan poured you

803
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: should be like smiling ear to ear when you hear

804
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: these things about him as a player, his experienced here

805
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: in New York being a Met, and what his goals

806
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: are for this team, and basically he just wants to win.

807
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: He has no interest in anything else, doesn't care about

808
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: his performance on the field. All he wants is to win.

809
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: And it was it was amazing to hear.

810
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I put the quote on my Twitter and it's uh,

812
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: it was like basically the end of the article. Again,

813
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: any Mets fans should read this. It was not behind

814
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: a paywall.

815
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: It was it was.

816
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: It was absolutely Mets porn like everything. Versus Collendors said,

817
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: it was just like I wanted to run through a

818
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: brick wall. He said, I'm proud to be in New York, Met,

819
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: but my job is not done. I haven't done with

820
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: it takes to win. We haven't done. We haven't won

821
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: the World Series. So I don't want to say I've

822
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,239
Speaker 3: done my job to the ultimate end. I feel like,

823
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: not until the day we win, when I have the

824
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Speaker 3: opportunity to give the trophy.

825
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Speaker 1: The Steve or Alex and say we did it.

826
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Speaker 3: The job is not done, and that is That's what

827
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Speaker 3: every Mets fan wants to hear.

828
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Speaker 1: That's the truth.

829
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Speaker 3: And Francisco indoor media keeps asking about the MVP stof

830
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Speaker 3: theyd An MVP chant going on Saturday after I think

831
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 3: the second home run in San Diego, They're like, how

832
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: do you feel about the MVP chants? Over here, He's like,

833
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: I'm really impressed how well the fans travel Like he's not.

834
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 3: He doesn't give a shit about his own personal performance.

835
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Speaker 3: He just happens to be one of the best players

836
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Speaker 3: in baseball. He was, He's blessed and he works incredibly

837
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: hard and he's gifted with that. But he knows that

838
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: this isn't about this and passing quotes. We had his

839
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Speaker 3: own article with the Grand Slam on Saturday night without

840
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Speaker 3: in your words, just being like, this is a guy

841
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: who's doing m VP type shit, and he's doing MVP

842
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: type shit, but he's not.

843
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: Gonna win the MVP.

844
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: We will make the playoffs and no one else helps him.

845
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he need he needs some help. He literally

846
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: is trying to do it on his own. He can't.

847
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: It's not possible. That's why they lost Sunday's game. He

848
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: had the opportunity to drive him in. Grant that he

849
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: didn't with the bases loaded, but that's baseball. The best

850
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: guy's gonna get it hit there three out of ten times,

851
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 2: like he was due to not get a huge hit.

852
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: We got the reply guy to when I tweeted them

853
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: that it was it was. I tweeted the defensive play

854
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: he made, and I said, real MVP's play defense. I

855
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: was really trying to see if I can, if I

856
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: can go to the world on that actually is getting

857
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: not the worst engagement that someone replied, and they go,

858
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: real MVPs, don't Chase splithers with the bases loaded in

859
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: a strikeout in the huge spot, like do it the

860
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: fourth inning in August, like he's not can get hit

861
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: every fucking time he comes up, They're like, we can't.

862
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: He said, we got get this MVP shit over with

863
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: one who in the championship. He likely cringes when people

864
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: like you talk about the MVP New York. You earn

865
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: your stripes by winning good.

866
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: I hope he.

867
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: Cringes when we say that that's exactly what I want

868
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: from my leader.

869
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: I don't want this lawyers and the door keeping up

870
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: with the Mets. Stop Twyter account God.

871
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: For if he does, We're dead. The season's over, his

872
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: career is over. If he cares about what that's the podcast.

873
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean, he should care. We have to say, but

874
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: we shouldn't be following us on Twitter. I know he

875
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: listens to every episode. We know that, but I don't

876
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: want him yet. But some other great things from this

877
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: article from Jeff Passon. He said that Lindor every single

878
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: day talks to every single player on the team, and

879
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: he's done it all year. He has like a small conversation,

880
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: he said, like like he said, dependsing on the guy,

881
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: like someone will raz, someone will give a point, or

882
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: someone will say something. But he has a small conversation

883
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: with every single player every single day.

884
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: And he also said that that whole player's only meaning.

885
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: After Hory Lopez think I was fully called by Lindor.

886
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: That was all his Yeah, that's good and I don't

887
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: know if you noticed it too, But in this series

888
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: in particular, he was busting his ass on every single

889
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: play there was a weak ground ball, he hit the

890
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: second base at one point and he was out by

891
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: twenty feet right because there was a ground ball to

892
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: second easy play. He was sprinting through the bag full sprint.

893
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: There was a fly ball he hit to the outfit

894
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: it was on second base. That's the kind of stuff

895
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 2: that I love to see. Obviously, get a hit there

896
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: would be better, but for the lead by example or

897
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: the what's the word I'm looking for, essentially, like putting

898
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: it on himself, showing the people how it's done. If

899
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: he's busting it every single time, there's no excuse for

900
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: everybody else to not be busting it every single time.

901
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: And I like that he's trying to send that message totally.

902
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: And there was a cool moment in the first inning

903
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: on a Sunday's game against Martine Perez where Peas is

904
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: a lefty and he's one of the lefties I think

905
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: is relatively easier to run on than most lefties. But

906
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: door while not running, he was taking five step leads.

907
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: He was daring him throw the ball. He got back

908
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: every single time. But it's just he's every single tiny

909
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: little thing. You make great plays in the field too,

910
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: in this game, a few of them. It's just every

911
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: single the tag he made to get out of the

912
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 3: seventh inning game, wasn't deaf saved the game briefly, but

913
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: every little tiny thing is so fucking locked in and

914
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: just somebody needs to help him. And the last thing

915
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: I want to talk about this year is I guess

916
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: before we move on, we card most of it. Just yeah, again,

917
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: hats off David Pewson, another amazing start. I'm going to

918
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: continue talk about David peasing because he keeps pitching well

919
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: despite me saying I don't know how why he's doing it.

920
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: Two strikeouts, two walks, but seven score less ending seven

921
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: and third scores into the eighth inning, which is absolutely ridiculous.

922
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: He's top ten in baseball in terms of star the

923
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: ra this year for pitchers that they're at a minimum of

924
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: ady innings. It's it's fucking obscene how well he's doing

925
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: right now. And he's doing it by again without the

926
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: great stuff, just mixing up his pitches so much. It

927
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 3: was first pitches, uh, in this game, he threw five

928
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: different ones. He threw mostly sinkers, then fast ball splips,

929
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 3: the rise and lefties, and he dropped a couple of curveballs,

930
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: a couple of change ups, a couple of sliders like

931
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 3: he's mixing everything right now in all of his counts,

932
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: which is how a guy like Peterson who doesn't have

933
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: the best off in the world can really maximize the stuff.

934
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: And he's doing it. It's awesome. And return to ded

935
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: Neil Nuoniya shut out there king, Yeah he was.

936
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: How awesome was it hit to watch him pitch? He

937
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: just comes out there and just pounds his own and

938
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: blows him by it. He's he's so awesome. It's gonna

939
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: be huge, huge for us to have him in the

940
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: bullpen in these big, meaningful games that we got coming up,

941
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 2: because the schedule becomes insane. We got some crazy, big

942
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: games going on here, especially the next one against the Diamondbacks.

943
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: Another thing to mention, Paul Blackburn ill drilled with the

944
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: line drive. I don't think he hurt fractures us or anything,

945
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: but I think it's concusion.

946
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: But he's gonna miss the start.

947
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna miss his start, So they put him

948
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: on the IL. So Tyler McGill is probably gonna be

949
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: called up at some point because to do need another

950
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: starter and he's really the only other option. I think

951
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: Joey Luke's coming up right now, So keep an eye

952
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: on what the Mets do with their starting pitching moving forward.

953
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 2: Blackburn did also not have a great start against the Padres,

954
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: but it's gonna happen. He wasn't brought in too be

955
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: an ace. I wish he pitched better, but he didn't,

956
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 2: so move on from that.

957
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: I definitely want to give people I'm not I'm not

958
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: gonna like defend Tyler McGill.

959
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna think he's gonna come up and throw well.

960
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 3: But there's a pitcher in the Diamondbacks who I think

961
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: is a good lesson for baseball fans and people as

962
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: to why you just can't give up on pictures with

963
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: good fastballs like Tyler McGill has Ryan Nelson, let's come

964
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: out of nowhere. I asked Dalton about him, but our

965
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: board daltdon't answer any of our questions. So I'm just

966
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: gonna talk about Nelson now before you get into the Diamonbacks.

967
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: Is certain of your questions, Yeah, yeah's your I think

968
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 3: it just buzzing. But Nelson had been horrible for basically

969
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: two straight year, siscently one of the worst pitches in baseball.

970
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 3: Consistant Rai's in the fives. But the Diamondbacks are blessed

971
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: to have Brent Strom, who might be the best pitching

972
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: coach ever, ever, ever, possibly at least probably the best

973
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: of the modern era. Like he does so well and

974
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: blending analytics with with mentality vis he's so fucking good sequencing,

975
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: he's amazing. Also, his wife's up pitch is like basically

976
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: as a pitching expert as well, Like they just love pitching,

977
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: like to go home and I talk to your love

978
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: line about pitching, like it could be better?

979
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: What could be better than that?

980
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: But he helped Nelson with some sequencing and some fastball

981
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: usage stuff this year where I think Nelson was always

982
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: a little bit scared of the homeworks.

983
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: Because they always killed him.

984
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: So he would throw his fastball low in the zone

985
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 3: a lot, even though he had one of those really

986
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 3: nice like back spinning IVB fastballs that we talk about

987
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: so much. So about a month and a half ago,

988
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: Strump's like, throw that shit high in the zone and

989
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: throw it more because it's your best pitch. So he

990
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: went away from he tried to have an even repertoire.

991
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: Then he was like, fuck this, his fastball is my

992
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: best pitch. He's throwing at least sixty percent of the time,

993
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: and seven of his last nine started something like that

994
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: after never doing it this whole year, and he's been

995
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 3: literally one of the best pitchers in baseball. He forced

996
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 3: a dining back to take Jordan Montgomery' paying twenty five

997
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: million dollars out of the rotation so he can stay in.

998
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: He's been pitching that well, so we're gonna see him

999
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: in the series. And it's just again a message that

1000
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: it takes.

1001
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: Pictures a long time. Sometimes it just does.

1002
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: I must rove in this series. How long did it

1003
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: take Musgrove's become a good pitcher? Which always have like

1004
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: six years in the major leagues actually get good. My

1005
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: friends used to make fun of me because I held

1006
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 3: him the Dynasty League for a fuck ever, a league

1007
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: that's been around, so I think twenty eleven had muscle

1008
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: right away.

1009
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: I was like, this is my guy, Like he sucks.

1010
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: But how long did it take Garret Cole to get good?

1011
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like traded for Joe Musgrove.

1012
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: How long did it take Max Sures get There are

1013
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: plenty of pictures that sometimes it's just well grank. He

1014
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: was pretty good from the start, but a couple of

1015
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: bad years early. Yeah, I think, yeah, you're right, You're right.

1016
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: I'll give you that. But end of the day, sometimes

1017
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: it takes a little time. That being said, Tyler McGill,

1018
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: you up. We got the text, all right, let's see it.

1019
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 2: Especially it's gonna happen.

1020
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: The Mets might shovel their rotation, pitch him against the

1021
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: White Sox, might strike out twelve guys.

1022
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: And also back to that Ryan Nelson Jordan Montgomery thing

1023
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: real quick before we get into this Diamondbacks preview. Love

1024
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: the message that they're sending to the guy paying for

1025
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 2: five million dollars bullpen. We're trying to win baseball games

1026
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: right now. Ryan Nelson gives us the best opportunity. I'd

1027
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: love to see that with the Mets too, because we

1028
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: got a guy that we talked about earlier that we're

1029
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: paying a lot of money to who I don't think

1030
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: gives us the best chance to win when he's on

1031
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: the field right now. And in case you didn't pick

1032
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: up the hint that is Sarling Martek and I gus.

1033
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: Last thing we'll talk aboutfore Diamback's preview is that rosters

1034
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: will expand in a few days and we will talk

1035
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: about it a lot, probably next few episodes, but everyone

1036
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: assumed who's gonna be Brett Bay they get the roster spot,

1037
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 3: but he broke his finger. So now there's a big

1038
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: conversation about who's going to get this spot from the Mets.

1039
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: And Drew Gilbert is finally back in Triple A and

1040
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: hitting better. Louisa Hellacuna offered, he does a lot again,

1041
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: that's zesty with Merrifield guys.

1042
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: He does a lot of things.

1043
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of guys in this team do not

1044
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: do well. It's it's gonna be interesting. Or they could

1045
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: just go with DJ Steuweler veteran guy like Luke Rithers.

1046
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be very interesting to see where the Mets

1047
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 3: go with this roster spot in five five days when

1048
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 3: you listen to.

1049
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 2: This, I would love love to see Acuna on this team.

1050
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: Gilbert or Gilbert, one of those guys. Just a little

1051
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: spark plug, give a little give a little action, give

1052
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: a little spice to athleticism, which we desperately Drew Gilbert,

1053
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: that's not zesty.

1054
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: Louis Helancuni is zesty. It's a big difference there, well,

1055
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: Drew Gilberts, Drew Gilbert's got dog. He's dog. Acunia is zesty,

1056
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: He's a spark plug. Drew Gilbert's like a fucking I'm

1057
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: a bulldog. Let me. I'm I'm gonna attack, Let me pounce.

1058
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: Uh. But yeah, I would love to see a counya,

1059
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: I really would. If it's not gonna be Drew Gilbert,

1060
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: I'd like to see him giving a shot. I think

1061
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: there's also a really cool opportunity to just sneaky, give

1062
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: him a little bit of season in here, sneaky, see

1063
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: what he can do at the major league level. A

1064
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: couple of innings at second base, couple of dings in

1065
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 2: center field, whatever it's gonna be. Let him pinch, run

1066
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: on the base paths, get a couple at bats. I'd

1067
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: like to see him. DJ Stewart aren't king, but I

1068
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: don't think he makes this team any better having up

1069
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: here where I think Acuna could have an impact and.

1070
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: Gil Brad Jay we'll talk about a lot next episode,

1071
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: but I think now time to pass over to ourselves

1072
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: and Dalton for the Diamondbacks preview. All right, guys, very

1073
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: special preview of the Arizona Diamondbacks series. Right now, we

1074
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: have on Diamondbacks super fan, talented NFL cap on, one

1075
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 3: of the best fantasy football players ever met, and frequent

1076
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: caller to Brhodes Media The Philadelphia Show where they just

1077
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: few bad takes our boy, Dalton k It's Dalton.

1078
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: What's up, dude?

1079
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 5: How are you doing?

1080
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 6: Guys right in a high right now of Brodes just

1081
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 6: going absolutely berserk after the Dbacks yet again put the

1082
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 6: Phillies to the hammer and we let them know that

1083
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 6: we are there.

1084
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: Papa, Yeah, the yeah, Diamondbacks are playing some pretty insanely

1085
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: good baseball right now. I will be in Arizona sleeping

1086
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: on Dalton's couch during this next series. So if you

1087
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: guys are in Arizona, say what's up? But you guys

1088
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: just don't lose. Even today coming back against the Red Sox.

1089
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: Starting to feel like a little bit of team of

1090
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: destiny starting to get hot and this DI team feels dangerous.

1091
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: How does it feel as a Diamondbacks fan to go

1092
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: on this run right now?

1093
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 5: Dude?

1094
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 6: It's actually insane. It just feels like we're on an

1095
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 6: absolute heater. But it also feels like that heater is

1096
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 6: never gonna end. It's not like playing craps and you're

1097
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 6: just like ripping six and eight's the entire time, and

1098
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 6: you know eventually a seven is gonna hit. It feels

1099
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 6: like you're playing craps, but there's no possible way to

1100
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 6: get a seven because it's only gonna get better as

1101
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 6: the season progresses. So it feels like there is a

1102
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 6: heater and this team is hot, but there is like

1103
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 6: legitimate reasons to believe this team is going to be

1104
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 6: even better than what it currently is on this hot strike.

1105
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.

1106
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: I may think of Diamondbacks are twenty four six or

1107
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 3: twenty five and five and they're less thirty or some

1108
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 3: ridiculous shit like that. And you guys just don't You

1109
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: literally don't lose baseball games. You Gues swept by the

1110
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: Rays last weekend. It's felt like this guy might finally

1111
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 3: might be coming down but stopped, and you keep winning.

1112
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 3: And it's crazy, you guys keep winning because you're missing

1113
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: two of your best players from the whole regular season

1114
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 3: right now, neither of them are playing both can Tell

1115
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: Martey and Christian Walker on the IL and Henio Suarez,

1116
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: Jake McCarthy, Corban Carl's finally hit up.

1117
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't matter.

1118
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: Someone finds a way to pick this Diamondbacks team up

1119
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: every single day.

1120
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, one hundred percent.

1121
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 6: And I think I think the most impressive thing is

1122
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 6: the fact that you've had Jordan Montgomery have nineteen starts

1123
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 6: for our team and the fact that he is an

1124
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 6: eight and six win loss record is just absurd. Like,

1125
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 6: you know, every single time this man is taking the mound,

1126
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 6: you are just in for one hell of a ball game,

1127
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 6: and somehow the offense just comes through despite Montgomery, And

1128
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 6: I think that's just really the story.

1129
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: Of the Diamondbacks.

1130
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter what's happened, whether it's Paul Seawalt blowing

1131
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 6: games and you guts find a way to come back,

1132
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 6: whether it's Jordan Montgomery having the worst DIRA of all

1133
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 6: starters after paying this guy twenty five million dollars and

1134
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 6: then potentially paying him twenty five million dollars again next year,

1135
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 6: this team just finds a way to do it. Whether

1136
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 6: you had injuries to Christian Walker now could tell Martas

1137
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 6: or Gaban Moreno has been out like we had a

1138
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 6: gallon hurt for a bit, Meryl Kelly's been out, Edward

1139
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 6: arrigaz our big signing has been out most of the year,

1140
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 6: Like it just really everything is kind of cratered in

1141
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 6: on the Diamondbacks and they've just found ways to win

1142
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 6: and bounce back regards.

1143
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they've They've been playing outstanding baseball. And I

1144
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: feel like for the Diamondbacks last year kind of snuck

1145
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: up on everybody.

1146
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: That run to the World Series was crazy. I got

1147
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: to be there with.

1148
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: You watching a lot of it, and James as well,

1149
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: although James might have been the Jinks there in the

1150
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: World Series. Does it have the same vibes as last

1151
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: year or are you feeling even more confident about this

1152
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: team right now?

1153
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think.

1154
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 6: I mean, I've been an Arizona fan my entire life

1155
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 6: in all sports, and I can confidantly say that this

1156
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 6: might be one of the best single season seasons of

1157
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 6: any sports team in Arizona that I've been alive for.

1158
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 6: And that is like, I think they're up there with

1159
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 6: like those one like four teams. I'm not putting like

1160
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 6: pressure on them or anything, but I've seen Cardinals make

1161
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl, I've seen the Suns make the Finals,

1162
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 6: and I'm telling you, this Diamondbacks team has a vibe

1163
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 6: of someone that can do extremely Like if you look

1164
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 6: across the board, they have zero weaknesses, and you can

1165
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 6: argue that every aspect of their team is a strength.

1166
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 5: Top five defense.

1167
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 6: You could argue they're one of the best base running

1168
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 6: teams the entire league when healthy. You could argue that

1169
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 6: starting rotation is one of the best in the BIGS.

1170
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 6: Now with their bullpen getting a J Puck and Justin

1171
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 6: Martinez now in that closer role with equal in the seven,

1172
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 6: and then Ryan Thompson as some other guys, like, that's

1173
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 6: one of the best bullpens league in. This offense has

1174
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 6: just been raking, Like this team is just absolutely cooking.

1175
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: Dude, straight up.

1176
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: I also think this team is just better than the

1177
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: team last year for all the same reasons.

1178
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: Just felt Cinderell.

1179
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 3: It felt like it was just Tommy fam and you know,

1180
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: Zach Gallen going out there and I could tell doing

1181
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: everything they could every single day.

1182
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: But a J Puck's been awesome.

1183
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: That was a huge trade that kin Chine, you guys

1184
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: season Justin Martinez, He's been one of my favorites for

1185
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: a while just because if you throw a hundred one

1186
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: miles now I'm like, yeah, you're the man.

1187
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: I like you.

1188
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: But now fund suddenly finally, like in last three weeks,

1189
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 3: like he steadied the ninth inning. That was super unsteady

1190
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 3: all season. And like you said, like Yinkle pitching the seventh,

1191
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: that's crazy. He was like the hero last year. Now

1192
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: he's a middle he's a middle inning reliever, which is

1193
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: just fucking lethal. And when you get katl and Uh

1194
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: and Christian Walker back like this lineup, it just it

1195
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: fucks like simply as that. I think I told Mark

1196
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: like a month ago where I was like, guess where

1197
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: the Diamonbacks rank the season in terms of run score

1198
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: and he was like twelfth.

1199
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: That was like third.

1200
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: He was like what, But it's like they just they

1201
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: bludgeon you the death. And even the guy like Adrian

1202
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: del Castillo comes up out of nowhere in the last

1203
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: few weeks. He was raking in triple A. Mark loved

1204
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: him in the draft for some reason a few years ago. Dude,

1205
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 3: the monster coming up to the majors. He strikes out

1206
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: a bunch. Every time he hits, the ball goes four

1207
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty feet, like everything is just clicking. All

1208
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 3: the buttons are right. You guys even have luis kyor

1209
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 3: mat Now who Mets fans could really.

1210
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 5: Resonate with that what a play he made the other day.

1211
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: Always does dude.

1212
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: And Jock Peterson two, yeah, shit, Josh. They not that

1213
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: they picked these guys up off the scrap heat, but

1214
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: they gave up nothing for Josh Bell. He was the

1215
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: Marlins cut him. They're like, we don't want him, pick

1216
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: him up off waivers. Jock Peterson was a sneaky good

1217
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: sign in this offseason, the guy who has the playoff experience,

1218
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: a good left handed bat. I mean, the Diamonbacks were

1219
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: rocking Pavin Smith last year in the postseason in World

1220
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: Series games. They're like, even Smith hit him fifth, put

1221
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: him right in the middle of the order. This team

1222
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 2: is so much better and the way that they're playing

1223
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 2: right now was crazy.

1224
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: Dude, Peven Smith hit fifth today for the Diamonbacks. Okay,

1225
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: all right, well, I don't know what.

1226
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 2: I don't know what Tory Lavello's obsession is with hitting

1227
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: Peven Smith in the middle of this order, but you

1228
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: know what, he pushes all the right buttons.

1229
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: They're playing such good baseball.

1230
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: What are the pitching matchups for the series, James, I

1231
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: don't even I don't even know who's due up for them.

1232
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: Who are we getting probably Ryan Nelson. I got this.

1233
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: I mean Ryan Nelson's to go. That's my I can't

1234
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: wait to pontificate on Ryan Nelson. But Tuesday and Wednesday

1235
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: nine for the games for the East Coasters out there

1236
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: asof Sean and I versus Brandon fot that's a big one.

1237
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: And then Wednesday Luissever Univers Eduardo Rodriguez, and Thursday they

1238
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: Mets have a question because we don't know that was

1239
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: Paul Blackman spot.

1240
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: But here's when the Ils.

1241
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 3: We don't know yet if that's just gonna be David

1242
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: Peterson on regular rest, or if that's the game that

1243
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: Tyler McGill slots in to start, which I kind of

1244
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: hope they move with Peterson. Just let McGill face the

1245
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: White Sox. But we all know what's gonna happen there,

1246
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: and that is that one is against Ryan Nelson. And

1247
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: now this back to back years, the Diamondbacks had a

1248
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: pitcher who had good pedigree. Between last year Brandon fought

1249
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 3: and this year Ryan Nelson look abysmal and all of

1250
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: a sudden on the dime second half star then this

1251
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: guy just changed. It's it's amazing what Brent Strom and

1252
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 3: like the what you guys do down there with getting

1253
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: these pitchers in season.

1254
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it's incredible.

1255
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 6: Ryan Nelson has been on an absolute heater, and because

1256
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 6: he's been so good, he's forced to hand like he

1257
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 6: he was not supposed.

1258
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 5: To be in a rotation.

1259
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 6: It was supposed to be in Jordan Montgomery, but he

1260
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 6: has been so good they couldn't put him in the

1261
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 6: bullpen and they had to make the move to put

1262
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 6: Montgomery in there. And Brandon Fought has been our best

1263
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 6: pitcher all year, given like all injuries to everyone. Like,

1264
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 6: he's not a guy that's going to be there dominating

1265
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 6: games for you, but he's going to give you innings.

1266
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 6: He's going to keep you in the game like nearly

1267
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 6: all the time. And he has been absolutely awesome. He

1268
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 6: could tell like last year in the playoffs that really

1269
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 6: kind of changed his trajectory heading into this year, and

1270
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 6: he's been awesome for us. So it's really cool to

1271
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 6: like sit there with like every single starter. You know

1272
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 6: now that Montgomery's out on the rotation that you have

1273
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 6: someone that can like give you reasonable innings that is

1274
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 6: probably going to keep you in the game for the

1275
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 6: most part, and in a good game, is gonna dominate

1276
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 6: for you.

1277
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this this series is gonna be insane. I'm

1278
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: like looking forward to is gonna be fun to be there,

1279
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: but I'm also going to be shitting my pants every

1280
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: single pitch that has thrown this because with the Mets

1281
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: now being two and a half back from the Braves

1282
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: after losing the fourth game of series the Padres, they've

1283
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: kind of they're kind of not really in it with

1284
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 2: the Diamonbacks, Like theoretically, it's it's really not close right now.

1285
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: I think six games back of the diamond now. Yeah,

1286
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: So like this series is more important to the Mets

1287
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: for winning to stay like close with the Braves rather

1288
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: than trying to catch up to the Diamondbacks, which I

1289
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: wish you guys would lose, so it could be close,

1290
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: but it is going to be tight.

1291
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: Do you guys?

1292
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: Is there any hype for the Mets coming to town

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Speaker 2: or is it just like no, well, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: it's still a wild card.

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Speaker 1: It's hype for you coming to town.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, Mark, We're super excited to have you

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Speaker 6: in town and come watch just because I mean, you

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00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 6: bring some good vibes for sure, and we're probably part

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Speaker 6: of the big reason the d backs made the World series,

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Speaker 6: even though no one gives your credit.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're a big reason for.

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00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 6: That, so credit or credits to So I don't want

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00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 6: to like harp on the fact that maybe like there's

1304
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 6: not a lot of optimism. But right on the other

1305
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 6: side of the Mets series is our last series against

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00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 6: the Dodgers, So that is a that is our massive

1307
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 6: one of like trying to catch up there. But I

1308
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 6: think we've kind of been prepping and we have been

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00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 6: extremely hot this last I mean not just month like

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00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 6: the last three months, but we've I wouldn't say we've

1311
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 6: had like the hardest schedule, but our September is pretty

1312
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 6: freaking brutal, and I think it starts the series like

1313
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 6: we've had games against the the Marlins and the Rockies

1314
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 6: to kind of ease our way and do it. But

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00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 6: like arting with the Mets, it's like, Okay, we have

1316
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 6: a full month stretch heading into the playoffs where we

1317
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 6: don't have.

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Speaker 5: The easiest series.

1319
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 6: We have to battle, we have to go through teams

1320
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 6: that are fighting for playoffs where it's Padres, Brewers, Dodgers,

1321
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 6: Mats like these teams. So I think it just like

1322
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 6: that flip their switch is about to be flipped to

1323
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 6: be like all right, like time to lock in. Every

1324
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 6: single game is going to be playoff baseball until the

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Speaker 6: season start, until the playoffs start, and then from there

1326
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 6: it's just going from there on out. So it's starting

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Speaker 6: this series right here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are only three games back of the

1329
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 3: Dodgers for both the division and the best record in

1330
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 3: fucking baseball. That's crazy, barely five hundred team in June

1331
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 3: and when you guys came because the Diamondbacks also famously

1332
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: not famously famously, US played the Mets the series after

1333
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: the whole Halopas incident where things actually started to feel okay,

1334
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 3: but then we won the first two games that series,

1335
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: like all right, hell yeah, the season is not over,

1336
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: and then lost the next two games of that season,

1337
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: which is all right, that's kind of how this Met

1338
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: season has been overall. But Dalton, just with your vibe check,

1339
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 3: do you think that do you guys have a chance

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Speaker 3: to catch the Dodgers.

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Speaker 6: If we beat them in the series. Yes, but it

1342
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 6: really is gonna come down to that series because that's

1343
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 6: our one chance to go head to head against them,

1344
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Speaker 6: and our biggest issue is, like we're constantly winning games,

1345
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 6: but the Dodgers are constantly winning games. So even though

1346
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 6: we are on this heater, the Dodgers on this here,

1347
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 6: so we're not able to make the ground that you

1348
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 6: normally would think this team that is this hot would

1349
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 6: be able to make ground on the division arrival.

1350
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 5: So, I mean, Dodgers are there.

1351
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 6: They got Mookie back and everything, So it's really hard

1352
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 6: to expect the Dodgers to lose games, and it's also

1353
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 6: really hard to expect us to continue winning at this pace.

1354
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 6: But I mean, I'm at least optimistic that this team.

1355
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 6: I'm also looking not necessarily at the division and more

1356
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 6: so just looking at the playoffs and what this team

1357
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 6: could look like in the playoffs against some of the

1358
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Speaker 6: other teams in the NL and potentially in the World Series.

1359
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a big series, gonna be a fun one. Dalton,

1360
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: let everybody know where they can find you. Plug all

1361
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Speaker 2: your stuff here and I'll see you on Tuesday.

1362
00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1363
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're excited to have you in there.

1364
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Speaker 1: Mark.

1365
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 6: If you want to follow me, you can follow me

1366
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 6: on Twitter at dahl and underscore Kate.

1367
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: Wait, doll before you go, give everyone, give everyone one

1368
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: pick after one hundred and their fancy football draft that

1369
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 3: could win then the league.

1370
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Speaker 6: Dude, you just know I'm gonna Saykyle pits, but I can't.

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00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 6: I can't do it. You just say you're setting me

1372
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 6: up just to get burned again. I would, Okay, for

1373
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 6: the first time, I'm actually like, really in on my

1374
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 6: own team, So I promise you there's no bias, even

1375
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 6: though it seems like I'm biased here. But I think

1376
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 6: Trey McBride is an absolute hammer this year. Like Trey

1377
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 6: McBride is the guy that should be going so much earlier,

1378
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 6: but people aren't necessarily as high on because there's a

1379
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 6: lot of other good tight ends. But I think Trey

1380
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 6: McBride could be like the new age zach Ertz, but

1381
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 6: maybe even better. And I think Kyler's Kyle's gonna have

1382
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 6: his best year yet. With Marvin there, I think things

1383
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 6: are going to really open up.

1384
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: So give me an zero running back. Who's the first

1385
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: running my.

1386
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 6: Four rankings right now if you want tell us, yeah, no,

1387
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 6: they're my my wide receivers. I like, I like the

1388
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 6: I like the rookies a lot. Neighbors Marvin of course,

1389
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 6: I think O Dunsa and worthy, so I think if

1390
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 6: you're in drafts and you're missing out on some of

1391
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 6: these really kind of key names. Once you get like

1392
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 6: the fifth, sixth round, start targeting these rookies, Lab McConkie,

1393
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 6: Xavier Worthy of Duns, even Brian Thomas is interesting. Once

1394
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 6: you get later in drafts out on I Mitchell and

1395
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 6: Jalen Polk, I think, like, I think this rookieide receiver

1396
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 6: that's gonna be really good, So targeting finding fun ways

1397
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 6: for that. And then somebody one running one running back.

1398
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 6: I I've never drafted a running back in my life,

1399
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 6: so this is really hard for me. I really like

1400
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 6: Chase Brown a lot this year. Chase Brown, I think

1401
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 6: I think he's a fun, fun upside play right, so

1402
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 6: love it. And Javonte I'll give you Javonte Williams too, Like.

1403
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: Okay, beautiful one more pluggy stuff. Thanks for coming out,

1404
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 3: you're the man.

1405
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate it. Guys, We're excited for the series

1406
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 5: and go to E decks.

1407
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: All right, peace, all right, there is anything else here

1408
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: to talk about? James, we got anything else?

1409
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: Or oh Frankie Peppers Frankie Peppers of course, Yeah, ready

1410
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: to go. So update from Frankie Peppers after losing a

1411
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 3: disappointing game against the Padres.

1412
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: Go off, king, gentlemen, it's Frankie Peppers.

1413
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 4: Can you please tell me when the baseball playbook changed

1414
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 4: to to say that it's a good strategic decision to

1415
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 4: walk the nine hitter. I'd like to know when that

1416
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 4: when that change was made, because the Mets really seemed

1417
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: to be hanging on that strategy this year, and I

1418
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 4: don't know how effective it's been for them. They might

1419
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 4: need to change the strategy. Sour end to the series, boys,

1420
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. I mean, Francisco Lindor had a

1421
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 4: phenomenal Game three. I think the end of the season,

1422
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 4: you're making the captain, no questions asked, But today was

1423
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 4: not good for my heart, both, like you know, physically

1424
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: and emotionally. I'm a little hurt right now. I might

1425
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: need to go make an appointment Mexican the cole My

1426
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 4: doctor right now.

1427
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,479
Speaker 2: Thanks, boys, Gotta tell you, Frankie Pepper's doctor has gotta

1428
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: be getting making some money. This guy's always got ailments

1429
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: that he needs to take care of. But I guess

1430
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: that's just being a Mets fan.

1431
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: Where the fuck is Frankie calling from? A meadow of

1432
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 3: those birds are chirping. It sounded nice out there.

1433
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 2: Oh, I have a pretty good idea that that's not

1434
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: his normal voice and he's hanging shit, and he's hanging

1435
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: out outside because you just want people to hear him

1436
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 2: talking like an insane person in public if he lives

1437
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 2: with others. But Frankie Peppers as always brings the heat.

1438
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: He did bring up something we missed, Mason McCoy. Fuck

1439
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: Mason McCoy three times this year? How did he get

1440
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: on base so much? Mason McCoy. That guy can't be good.

1441
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: There's no way that we didn't.

1442
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 3: Also didn't talk about that walk of his from Buddo.

1443
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: That was like the kind of defining moment in this game.

1444
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: That was not like I don't I don't think we're

1445
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna win anymore.

1446
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 3: But no, terribly. You gotta flush his game him. Have

1447
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 3: three huge games coming up starting on Tuesday.

1448
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: I think that's it.

1449
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, big series against the Diamonbacks. Just keep

1450
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 2: keep winning, keep playing good baseball. That's all we need

1451
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: to do and hopefully if you win enough games you

1452
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: get into the playoffs. Can't worry about what everybody else

1453
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: is doing and hopefully just we just win. I want

1454
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 2: to see some good games out there. It would be

1455
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: really miserable for me if we fly out to Arizona

1456
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 2: and just get fucking stomped.

1457
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: That would not be fun.

1458
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: But guys, yeah, the team is so good. You didn't

1459
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: believe in them in the start of the year. You

1460
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: didn't believe I said two years ago. Last year, I

1461
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: did believe them. I was like watching the Dama sneaky

1462
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: playoff team. This year is like, I don't think it's

1463
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: diambacks team as it but made some changes I didn't.

1464
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: I didn't see Ryan Nelson coming out of nowhere, and

1465
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: I didn't see Jack D's and having it like a

1466
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: thousand no ps, didn't see either of those cus that's fair.

1467
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 2: Who did Kit tell Marte? Thank god he's not gonna

1468
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: be playing in this series. Thank god hurting my fantasy team.

1469
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: But I love that he's not on the field against us. Guys,

1470
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 2: thank you for listening and watching. Remember to follow us

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Speaker 2: and TikTok. Subscribe to the mets up podcast YouTube channel

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00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: Twitter app James Underscore Shiana.

1478
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Speaker 1: I'm draft neck Mark with a C.

1479
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: We'll catch you guys after the Arizona series, hopefully goodvibes,

1480
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 2: and if not, we're gonna be cracking open some cold

1481
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: ones and having a sad boy moment. So thanks for

1482
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 2: listening and we'll see you guys next time.

1483
00:56:15,440 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: Peace peace, see you guys next time. Don't that Don't

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Speaker 1: that that