Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast is subletting Marks Fantasy Corner
Speaker 1: from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm Dan Jansas, Greg Rosenthal here. Mark Sessler Marks on
Speaker 1: retainer for his fantasy services. He cut you know, he
Speaker 1: pops in and August then pops back out so we
Speaker 1: can sublet the place. This is the offseason time to
Speaker 1: sublet that real piece of real estate. It's a time
Speaker 1: to invest in the corner. I feel like it's about
Speaker 1: to uh, what's the word, gentrify. Gentrify you appreciate, um, Mark,
Speaker 1: keep it real on your corner. Don't let the real
Speaker 1: estate fat cats come in and turn it into what
Speaker 1: it's not. I mean, people that typically live in that
Speaker 1: situation have no zero power over the fat cats. They
Speaker 1: come in and just change the neighborhood. And you either
Speaker 1: get out and they try to force you out, or
Speaker 1: you stand your ground. You never leave. Stand your ground.
Speaker 1: We got we we work in a part of town
Speaker 1: like that right now in Inglewood. We do. But also
Speaker 1: yeah we can. Um, that's super Bowl week. How about
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl? Give me a little horn grave digger,
Speaker 1: All right, I'll take that too. It is Super Bowl week.
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty seven will be played on Sunday. There
Speaker 1: it is Chiefs Eiggles, and we got a huge, huge,
Speaker 1: huge week coming up. This is where right now, Yes,
Speaker 1: in Inglewood at the NFL Network headquarters. One more show
Speaker 1: here we hop on. We've gotta catch a bird, Catch
Speaker 1: a bird to Phoenix, Get Phoenix tomorrow, and then we
Speaker 1: have two great shows from Radio Row with a ton
Speaker 1: of a ton of great guests from across the pro
Speaker 1: football spectrum and beyond. Uh. Then of course the flagship
Speaker 1: show Sunday Night UM and one other plug here super
Speaker 1: Bowl ten recall from uh, well not always all from
Speaker 1: the stadium. I guess last year we were here and
Speaker 1: in the Tampas Super Bowl we were not at because
Speaker 1: it's ten is special. It's a nice number like the
Speaker 1: Roman numerals X as we saw towards our twentie UM
Speaker 1: and by the way, UH for people that want more
Speaker 1: of the heroes. We were on bench with Banetta UH
Speaker 1: in her most recent episode, did a whole like game
Speaker 1: show a lot of fun, so check that out. And
Speaker 1: also we did a Q and A with the fans
Speaker 1: of the show UM via Twitter, Instagram read it. We
Speaker 1: took a bunch of questions and our Q and A
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Speaker 1: a seven day free trial. Check it out. You'll enjoy
Speaker 1: the Q and A people, uh, but you might enjoy
Speaker 1: the other stuff on the NFL Plus. Maybe hang around
Speaker 1: beyond seven days, but hey, that's your call. We we
Speaker 1: enjoyed it as much as we thought we wouldn't more.
Speaker 1: But all so, I thought that Greg, especially Um, he's
Speaker 1: shone bright during that. I don't even know about what
Speaker 1: that means. Um that were true about the bench with
Speaker 1: Banetta performance the NFL Plus, I felt like I was just, Uh,
Speaker 1: I was just fitting in there. But I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna do more of these uh Q and a's in
Speaker 1: the off season on NFL. It's very fun looking forward
Speaker 1: to that. Um, we're gonna get into the news, We're
Speaker 1: gonna get caught up on some things before we get
Speaker 1: on the bird. There was a guy that we worked
Speaker 1: with the NFL media years ago, really nice guy. UM
Speaker 1: had been in the business a long time. Uh, kind
Speaker 1: of middle aged dude. And this is when we were
Speaker 1: all younger. Um Mark not as young as Greg and I,
Speaker 1: but he was younger as well. Um and uh. He
Speaker 1: would come to the news room just a terrific fellow,
Speaker 1: just a really super nice guy. But he also wanted to,
Speaker 1: you know, be hip to the kids today. So after
Speaker 1: he would come in for a week to work on
Speaker 1: whatever project he was working on. And then Greg, I'll
Speaker 1: throw to you on this one at the end. It
Speaker 1: might have been the last time we ever saw him, actually, uh,
Speaker 1: or maybe it wasn't, but it doesn't really matter, because
Speaker 1: I flattened it out now and that's how I remember it. Mark,
Speaker 1: I'll throw it to you. Then, as he packed up
Speaker 1: his his little briefcase and and pulled over his jacket
Speaker 1: and stood up to to get ready to leave the
Speaker 1: office for the final time, he said what to us, said, Fellows,
Speaker 1: I gotta go catch a bird. He also would put
Speaker 1: on sunglasses. He had sunglasses that I didn't know if
Speaker 1: you were going for more details like fellas, gotta catch
Speaker 1: a bird. That stuck with us. And I think also
Speaker 1: that was part of his daily that was his common lexicon.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was just trying to be cool
Speaker 1: to us, but he was from a little with the skateboard.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't change the fact that he was very nice,
Speaker 1: as you pointed, terrific film. Um, probably a great dad. Um.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So we're gonna get caught up on news.
Speaker 1: We can talk a little bit um big picture super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but we're not really going to dive in until later
Speaker 1: in the week. We're gonna do our like hardcore greggy
Speaker 1: super Bowl preview or earlier this year. We're gonna put
Speaker 1: that out on Wednesday, which is nice, give people a
Speaker 1: nice little run a runway for that show, and then
Speaker 1: we'll have some guests in the last two shows from
Speaker 1: Radio Row in Arizona. Somewhere in Arizona. I assumes that
Speaker 1: a convention center, right, it is the Arizona super Bowl. Yes,
Speaker 1: get that right. We've gotten a couple of missives internally.
Speaker 1: Don't call it anything else but the Arizona super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I like, personally, you'll like this one, grave digger, because
Speaker 1: that's where you grew up. When we were told this
Speaker 1: is the North Texas super Bowl. There was, of course,
Speaker 1: also the New York New Jersey super Bowl with the slash,
Speaker 1: which is always a little bit clumsy, but civics, you know,
Speaker 1: there's some everybody wants a piece of that Super bowl.
Speaker 1: It's it's good that way, all right, Do I cover everything? Well,
Speaker 1: we'll also talk a little about what we did over
Speaker 1: the week. That's what I wanted to get to next, Greggy,
Speaker 1: now that I've set the table, before we catch the bird. Uh,
Speaker 1: this weekend was uh crazy, still tragically two years since
Speaker 1: we lost Chris Westling um and Uh, Lakisha came in
Speaker 1: on a bird herself from St. Louis, and we had
Speaker 1: a really nice celebration of west this weekend, getting together
Speaker 1: all the people that knew him well, uh still with
Speaker 1: the company, um and either even some people who were
Speaker 1: no longer with the company but knew Chris and loved Chris,
Speaker 1: and and we had almost it was almost like a
Speaker 1: Chris Wesling pub crawl on Friday, which was nice. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then uh Saturday, I know you got together with Lukisha,
Speaker 1: Mark and Greg and your wife at a nice dinner. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then on Sunday actually transported Lakisha to the Greg dinner,
Speaker 1: but didn't feel welcome or necessarily that I would be.
Speaker 1: I would have been surprising Greg Hi where I wasn't
Speaker 1: like it was like I wanted that to stay as
Speaker 1: it was. And then Sunday, we had a nice brunch
Speaker 1: in Manhattan Beach with Gonzo and and Connie and and
Speaker 1: my boys and Emily. Was just a great way to
Speaker 1: celebrate the man with Lakisha, who all of us seven
Speaker 1: incredible amount of affection for Yeah. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that the thing for us because Corona got in the
Speaker 1: way of a lot of time with West and then
Speaker 1: everything happened is as it did. And we when I
Speaker 1: think whenever we try to get together as a group,
Speaker 1: it is always West centric. But this this obviously stands
Speaker 1: out and stood out as something completely different. I mean,
Speaker 1: we went Dan did a great job of like coming
Speaker 1: up with a lineup of a schedule for Friday, one
Speaker 1: comment and we were already let's say a few hours
Speaker 1: into the day and it doesn't lose comments just like
Speaker 1: like a West day would have been lack of planning,
Speaker 1: but we you need the DAN to get the planning
Speaker 1: done to get us from place to we would have
Speaker 1: just been at the Whaler for seven hours planning. The
Speaker 1: planner gave it this great structure and um, I think
Speaker 1: that West would have gotten a great kick out of
Speaker 1: you Tube getting into it about deconstruct meant to be
Speaker 1: nothing but we went to one place, um Tony peas
Speaker 1: Uh in Marina del Rey, where West I think often
Speaker 1: not so much with us. There were events for wom them,
Speaker 1: but that was sort of his place to go on
Speaker 1: his own a lot because it was close to where
Speaker 1: he was living at the time. And we walked in
Speaker 1: and like all the bartenders, Um, one of them that
Speaker 1: we've known has been friends with with West for a while,
Speaker 1: the minute they saw the kisha, the minute they saw us,
Speaker 1: they just lined up. It was just exactly what it
Speaker 1: was for. And like I think it was that vibe.
Speaker 1: Everywhere we went there was someone that seemed to remember
Speaker 1: Wes Um knew why we were there, and like the
Speaker 1: day just was in a perfectly way infused with all
Speaker 1: these memories of him because it was we really like
Speaker 1: we didn't pick anything on the fringe. These were deep
Speaker 1: died in the world West hangouts, and that is like
Speaker 1: the best way I think you could possibly honor him,
Speaker 1: because that was him at his peak. West was bringing
Speaker 1: all sorts of people together, not like we aren't friends,
Speaker 1: but he would be bringing different groups of friends together
Speaker 1: and putting them all in a stew and jumping around
Speaker 1: the town and drinking in the daytime, like there's nothing
Speaker 1: you could possibly do to channel the spirit of West.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of laughs and us just having fun,
Speaker 1: get a chance for us to be together. There's some
Speaker 1: tears certainly at times talking about stuff. It's all unfair
Speaker 1: everything that that happened, and it's like everything and that
Speaker 1: was West. Like there's deep conversations and there was like
Speaker 1: the dumbest conversations possible, and that was West. He he
Speaker 1: navigated that sort of whole spectrum of like what it
Speaker 1: was like to be a human. So I did feel
Speaker 1: like we we did him justice, uh, And it was
Speaker 1: beautiful and it is heavy too. There is something I
Speaker 1: would have never known because I've never lost someone like
Speaker 1: like this close to us. Um that the anniversary of
Speaker 1: his his dea is passing, is it? Is it real?
Speaker 1: You know? It is something. There is something to it.
Speaker 1: There's a heaviness and just your thought goes to him.
Speaker 1: And I know that's especially true for Kesha, but it's
Speaker 1: true for all of us too, that it really is
Speaker 1: a thing. And it's always gonna be at this time
Speaker 1: in that week now between the super Bowl, so it's
Speaker 1: gonna be everything wrapped up together with with West, and
Speaker 1: I was happy we could we could do that. It
Speaker 1: was great and for those because we have a lot
Speaker 1: of listeners that will come Southern California and then they'll ask, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, they'll snap a photo at a place we've mentioned.
Speaker 1: If you do come to Southern California and you're a
Speaker 1: big fan and you love West, if you want to
Speaker 1: do the Chris Westling uh Bar Crawl, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: where to go. H Hananos, which is a legendary um
Speaker 1: kind of day drinking bar itself with some of the
Speaker 1: best uh burgers you'll have just right on the griddle.
Speaker 1: They're awesome place that's inventors the key there. That's the
Speaker 1: place to start to start because it's a day bar.
Speaker 1: People go at night, but it's a day bar. You
Speaker 1: go there, you start your day with a nice burger, cheeseburger,
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Greggy and I got some bacon on
Speaker 1: it and they put the they make the I saw
Speaker 1: them do it on the grow Greggy. They put it
Speaker 1: in a circular form, the bacon so that it sits
Speaker 1: on the patty like the way it comes out anyway. Hanano.
Speaker 1: Then you go across the street to the Whaler and
Speaker 1: the Whaler is great because they have a rooftop that
Speaker 1: is literally overlooking the Pacific Ocean and what a gorgeous
Speaker 1: body of water mark that is and it it shimmers.
Speaker 1: And West would sit there by the overlooking window um
Speaker 1: with like a stack of books on his own and
Speaker 1: beer and just outlining books with his outline, walking distance
Speaker 1: in his in his second actually a few of his
Speaker 1: apartments to there, so he spent a lot of So
Speaker 1: this goes west to east. So that's in Venice, uh.
Speaker 1: And then you go to Marina del Rey and you
Speaker 1: hit up Tony Peas and that's like the West Norm
Speaker 1: Bar and that's a really cool place with a lot
Speaker 1: of really nice people, good place to watch sports. Good
Speaker 1: sports bar, very good. And then he keep going east
Speaker 1: to Culver City where we all really got to know
Speaker 1: each other, um where the old NFL network offices were.
Speaker 1: And you go to Rockos where they got the two
Speaker 1: for one special, and that's where you start to get
Speaker 1: banged up. Although the Irish car bomb that we did
Speaker 1: at Tony PA's was untoward. Whoever green lit that, I
Speaker 1: think it was Gonzalez. Um that was a point of departure.
Speaker 1: That was when the button was hit and it was like,
Speaker 1: all right, someone else has taken already hit Rocos. Then
Speaker 1: of course there's only one place to close it, the Cozy.
Speaker 1: Also in Culver City, where we had so many, so
Speaker 1: many great days and nights. Let's face it, the Cozy.
Speaker 1: I have to thank jet Erica's um significant other for
Speaker 1: rescuing Eric and I at the cozy and getting because
Speaker 1: they're like that. We were doing group photos and all
Speaker 1: these sty all these spots, and you know, at the
Speaker 1: first couple were great. Everyone's got their arms from each other.
Speaker 1: They look fresh and sunlit. And as the day goes on,
Speaker 1: you know, people start to disappear from group photos like that.
Speaker 1: Just you know, I just noticed the next day the
Speaker 1: eyes are starting to droop and glaze over um. Anyway,
Speaker 1: and we saw it, like I love, it's such a
Speaker 1: make you feel local things. We saw the bartender, our
Speaker 1: bartender friend from Tony Peas act the cozy. It's just
Speaker 1: like that over um. Alright, long live Chris westling Um
Speaker 1: a great man. All right, let's get into ay it
Speaker 1: is Super Bowl weak. Let's share as we get into things,
Speaker 1: what's an unpopular Super Bowl hot take that you have.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start here Um, I love tradition. I love
Speaker 1: I love the idea of you know, the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and you know, being able to know, for instance, oh,
Speaker 1: what hurts Gregg more than anything, like we know that's
Speaker 1: the Giants winds over the Patriots, tough to swallow mountaintops.
Speaker 1: Um you know one one of the greatest always feels
Speaker 1: good to hurt you. One of the greatest losses of
Speaker 1: all time eighteen and O those Patriots were. And then
Speaker 1: of course the Giselle Tom can't throw the ball and
Speaker 1: catch it to game with with Wes Welker. That one't
Speaker 1: hurt way more. You never believe me on that. And
Speaker 1: the third of the Broncos Conference Championship that was actually
Speaker 1: the most pain right there. It must be hard. Um uh.
Speaker 1: But I want to say it's time to move away
Speaker 1: from the Roman Roman numerals. It's it's time keep obviously
Speaker 1: keep the I don't want it to be Super Bowl
Speaker 1: or whatever, but at a certain point the Roman numerals
Speaker 1: have gotten clunky. Right now we are at fifty seven,
Speaker 1: so it's l v uh one one. Just what are
Speaker 1: we doing at this point? It's like, oh, maybe things
Speaker 1: will get better when we get to sixty than it's
Speaker 1: l x l X one lex. It's just maybe I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I And it's like a certain point, like when
Speaker 1: they did super Bowl fifty, they were like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: the fiftieth anniversity. We went with the number. Let's just
Speaker 1: transition at this point. Well, so when they went fifty,
Speaker 1: it was the perfect that's your take, yea, the change
Speaker 1: that you want. We're now thought leaders, so we can
Speaker 1: leave this charge. That's an unpopular super Bowl take. So
Speaker 1: I think most people be like, oh, no, shut up,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't think most of your destructor
Speaker 1: you're you're so innovative, but you know we're not going
Speaker 1: to go along with you on this. Roman numerals have
Speaker 1: faded from like common out the things we use commonly,
Speaker 1: I mean even as kids. Also, the super Bowl was
Speaker 1: like it was kind of cool. It's like super Bowl
Speaker 1: twenty three. I can roll with that because we were
Speaker 1: we were sort of taught that in school. To sund degree,
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure it's saw in school. It was
Speaker 1: like in fifth grade in people were taught I don't
Speaker 1: even know if that's happening anymore. I was like, better
Speaker 1: at if you were a football fan and you were
Speaker 1: young you were better than your friends at Roman numerals
Speaker 1: because you had some experience. What is the point out?
Speaker 1: And when it when when it got to fifty, it
Speaker 1: was this perfect transition point. So when we were creeping
Speaker 1: towards fifty one, I was thinking, I hope we just
Speaker 1: hope they wouldn't possibly get some common sense would drip
Speaker 1: in here. And then if we're back to these right,
Speaker 1: what do we care about Rome? By the way, let's
Speaker 1: start there. But that's a whole different subject for the
Speaker 1: what do we care about Rome? Podcast? It just made
Speaker 1: it seem like grandiois or whatever the word, and it
Speaker 1: just made it out here we are, like six decades later,
Speaker 1: and maybe it's time for the transition. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I could not. Oh well, mine would be to just
Speaker 1: ban all legacy talk before the game, with maybe a
Speaker 1: few exceptions for like a thirty five year old quarterback
Speaker 1: or old or maybe thirty three, just like, don't need
Speaker 1: to talk about legacy. That it's very important that you
Speaker 1: set that age. Yeah, before we move, is it thirty
Speaker 1: three or thirty five. I'll give the legacy people a
Speaker 1: little bone here and make it thirty three. That's it
Speaker 1: we're talking about these two quarterbacks, it's like twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Like if I saw this whole thing is like, well,
Speaker 1: if Patrick Mahomes retired today, where does he stand or
Speaker 1: is he already a holiday cares He's twenty seven years old.
Speaker 1: He's younger than Peyton Manning was when before peytonman won
Speaker 1: a playoff game. He's younger then Tom Brady was before
Speaker 1: Tom Brady even was a first team All Pro. Like
Speaker 1: all this stuff where Jalen Hurts fits, what's it gonna
Speaker 1: mean for Travis Kelsey's legacy? Like legacy maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit after the game if you want to talk about
Speaker 1: things and put into context. Okay, fine, I not talking
Speaker 1: about Hurts his legacy, right, I just mean like all
Speaker 1: this stuff of like, well will they ever be back here?
Speaker 1: Will like ahead of the game, especially talking about what
Speaker 1: it means just let their careers play out. It's such
Speaker 1: a team sport too. I know that's a boring thing
Speaker 1: to point out, but it's like Patrick Mahomes had his
Speaker 1: defense stand up for him in this a FC championship
Speaker 1: to give him one more chance. If they didn't stand up,
Speaker 1: it took nothing away from what he did. The fact
Speaker 1: that they stunk in that game where Tom Brady walked
Speaker 1: the ball down the field with Rob Gronkowski to get
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Ineen, that didn't change Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: being the best quarterback in the league that year. Just
Speaker 1: that's Tom Brady outdoled him on that. They all this
Speaker 1: legacy stuff is stupid. We can be smarter just stopping
Speaker 1: I think the three of us can choose to be
Speaker 1: But Chane, you are trying to stop an asteroid from
Speaker 1: screaming to Earth because there's such a there's still this
Speaker 1: two week gap between the conference championships in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: that this talk just invariably bleeds up, especially when it's
Speaker 1: like stuff like CBS, US whatever. We're like, they're not
Speaker 1: covering football NonStop. You know, I'll never forget the CP.
Speaker 1: To use the word on our website. Center position was
Speaker 1: that was that? What it was? I don't know what
Speaker 1: it was. It was called the CP, the position, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's so acronym that we know one
Speaker 1: even knows that. In the morning of the Broncos Seahawks
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, which just said if Peyton Mannon wins this game,
Speaker 1: he's the greatest quarterback ever. The debates over he is
Speaker 1: officially there's no way Brady is gonna pass him in
Speaker 1: the end, because that was like a conversation there at
Speaker 1: that point that like his individual plus if he beats
Speaker 1: the Seahawks in this spot where when they got blown out,
Speaker 1: that would like him impregnable. It was like, now you
Speaker 1: look back on what a waste of time? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we like to get caught in the moment. It's kind
Speaker 1: of the three. I don't think it's fine, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I agree with your point largely. I think
Speaker 1: when you have a true generational great like Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: it is worth almost in real time just for me anyway.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, so he's twenty seven, this is his
Speaker 1: third super Bowl. He could win a second here and
Speaker 1: then you're like, we talked about how could he be
Speaker 1: the greatest ever? Were watching that guy in the very
Speaker 1: like at the peak of his powers. But I think
Speaker 1: there are limits, like you could I think you talked
Speaker 1: about Travis Kelsey at this point, these guys that are
Speaker 1: really established, like where does he stack up? But the idea,
Speaker 1: the idea that like Sunday, necessarily whether they win or lose,
Speaker 1: is what also things flip on. I also struggle with that,
Speaker 1: because I hear you you can play your best and lose.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's best super Bowl I will always believe was
Speaker 1: the game they lost to the Eagles. That's all right,
Speaker 1: how about you? Mark? Well, mine is a little more
Speaker 1: micro about this week. And like one thing I find
Speaker 1: happens every year is there's this deep um because it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you you pour media figures have to go to Super
Speaker 1: Bowl cities and figure out how to enjoy yourself and
Speaker 1: get around the berg of that year's choice. And I
Speaker 1: just was like, maybe let's not judge um super Bowl
Speaker 1: cities after having spent like thirty six hours in said
Speaker 1: city twelve or fourteen or twenty of them in a
Speaker 1: hotel where you're like basically in a good mood or not,
Speaker 1: based on who you've seen from your workplace, like I
Speaker 1: would say, particularly Phoenix, I can I can already tell
Speaker 1: we'll probably get a little bit knocked because the stadium
Speaker 1: itself is really far away, but I like, well, just
Speaker 1: like give it a chance, because it's like anything else
Speaker 1: because Phoenix last time I was trying to they all
Speaker 1: blend together, and that's also feels like a from on
Speaker 1: high viewpoint. But when I was really thinking about our
Speaker 1: last Phoenix Super Bowl. Yeah it's not New Orleans, which
Speaker 1: I mean, you really, how can you compare with New Orleans? Like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, West and I were out in the middle
Speaker 1: of Hoboken for the New York one, so that tinged
Speaker 1: my viewpoint of that Super Bowl. Wes how close Hoboken
Speaker 1: actually is to that Stadium's close to Midtown? No, but
Speaker 1: we were coming. We were taking a hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: dollar cabs each day to get up to do our
Speaker 1: podcast in Manhattan, So that kind of had West and
Speaker 1: I in a mood in West West's coat never got
Speaker 1: chipped to him. But anyways, like I was thinking about
Speaker 1: Phoenix in general, like since we were last there, they've
Speaker 1: completely read on the downtown in for instance, where a
Speaker 1: lot of people are staying there is there's a ton
Speaker 1: of stuff going on, and I think, like I have
Speaker 1: bad memories of Phoenix from here. That's trying to be that.
Speaker 1: But this was the same Super Bowl Dan where you
Speaker 1: and I think had one of the greatest times with
Speaker 1: your dad and your brother at the Up for Anything
Speaker 1: bud Light party. We were we were painting a unicorn
Speaker 1: with like different colored paints and all the beer was free.
Speaker 1: It was like this was a great Super Bowl city
Speaker 1: the world, Like we were West and I would like
Speaker 1: have beers with Greg go Sell in the hotel lobby
Speaker 1: each night, Like I just remember, And when I really
Speaker 1: think about it, Phoenix was a better experience than I recall.
Speaker 1: And it's just like if you're gonna go in and
Speaker 1: if you get sent to work on a business vacation,
Speaker 1: you go watch the greatest sporting event. Yeah, chill on
Speaker 1: your like paraphrasing Dwayne Johnson, Uh know your role and
Speaker 1: shut your mouth. Yeah, you don't want to be called
Speaker 1: that by you know, Travis Kelsey this Sunday Phoenix. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I'm not even saying go in the other direction either.
Speaker 1: Just give it a chance. And it's had incredible luck,
Speaker 1: at least with the stadium. It had the Giants uh
Speaker 1: win in OH seven catch and then it had the
Speaker 1: Patriots went over the Seahawks last time, which the greatest
Speaker 1: because that came off of deflate Gate and stuff. And
Speaker 1: I'll never forget Greg and I were staying nextra but
Speaker 1: when they showed and they were so dramatically done, Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick coming out of the tunnel from total darkness, into
Speaker 1: the light of the stadium with the hood over, and
Speaker 1: he did that for effect. The place was going absolutely nuts,
Speaker 1: destroying and booing him. But then even though because the
Speaker 1: Seahawks fans had drowned out the Patriots and the general
Speaker 1: fans were booing Beljick, then the figure of Tom Brady
Speaker 1: appeared and it's like, we, even though Brady's looks heard
Speaker 1: of this, we can't really boo them the same way
Speaker 1: we do Belichick, and the crowd went and completely the
Speaker 1: other direction. And I've never really been in a stadium
Speaker 1: that felt as loud as those couple of moments before
Speaker 1: that game. Very cool, actually, that is kind of atmosphere
Speaker 1: that that UM. That felt like a bit of a
Speaker 1: turning point where you're at the super Bowl and it
Speaker 1: went from being because we've been now to ten or
Speaker 1: whatever more. Um, that crowd was great. It was a
Speaker 1: really loud, active crowd. And I feel like every super
Speaker 1: Bowl feels like it's a great scene with the fans
Speaker 1: now where it doesn't feel like you're at a corporate event.
Speaker 1: I think of Eagles. Yeah, it's gonna be great. Um.
Speaker 1: And by the way, when we get to Super Bowl eight,
Speaker 1: just I'm trying to get ahead of this for our league. Again,
Speaker 1: these suggestions, they seem to just go into the ether.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be l x x x v I
Speaker 1: I I fifty plus ten plus ten plus ten plus
Speaker 1: five plus one plus one plus one. I mean, you
Speaker 1: gotta get you gotta bite the bowl at some point.
Speaker 1: We can't get that. You put them in front when
Speaker 1: you're going, but you where it's account to count backwards
Speaker 1: to make it simpler, which is even more confusing. Actually,
Speaker 1: but backwards it would be l x x x. That
Speaker 1: is what it would be, um graver. It wouldn't go
Speaker 1: backwards there. Sometimes it does, I think, and sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It would be if you're subtracting its six and up
Speaker 1: towards the next whole number, you go backwards. Did they
Speaker 1: teach us in North Texas? Absolutely not. We didn't learn
Speaker 1: Roman numerals. We learned Texas numerals. They did in the
Speaker 1: cold town, all right, And I was correct on this
Speaker 1: is another one. We're like Romes, like we know we're
Speaker 1: not going to be around for long because our numeracle
Speaker 1: system literally makes no difference or or makes no sense.
Speaker 1: If you got to pass a certain number. Let's take
Speaker 1: a break and do some news. All right, welcome back,
Speaker 1: Let's do some news. Sing it Tommy and every kiss
Speaker 1: begins with k Jim. Greg could do bits with Tommy
Speaker 1: on the podcast Let's Go, but when it's time to
Speaker 1: get the biggest scoop of his career, Greg wasn't able
Speaker 1: to get it. It was you know, it's still hard
Speaker 1: to believe that had to have created a Fisher in
Speaker 1: their relationship. Oh there's the Hollywood new wosic woodwear. Dreams
Speaker 1: are made but also pushed. It's a tough town, high risk,
Speaker 1: high reward. Um. Hey, Mark Ceciler, you did it, buddy,
Speaker 1: and so too did the producers of eighty four Brady,
Speaker 1: which include Tom Brady, who you heard there on the
Speaker 1: Let's Go podcast because Brady the film starring all those
Speaker 1: grand dames of the silver screen, Tomlin, Moreno Fonda, Field Fields,
Speaker 1: thank you, Forest comes my Um for Cripe's sake. Uh
Speaker 1: the mom from Mrs doubt Fire. She was also that
Speaker 1: Field had a nice career, still does obviously, because eighty
Speaker 1: for Brady made twelve and a half million at the
Speaker 1: box office, which exceeded estimates not by a ton um,
Speaker 1: but exceeded our estimates. Uh, let's see, let's go through it.
Speaker 1: Grave digger. You you had it as a Titanic, not
Speaker 1: the film Titanic. Um bomb at four point six million? Um,
Speaker 1: Greg even less bullish in retrospect, this is surprising to me.
Speaker 1: Three million, but you were going I thought would be
Speaker 1: lower than all you and I stupidly played it before
Speaker 1: Graver even went and didn't make any sense. Um I
Speaker 1: I said nine, and I was like that was like,
Speaker 1: I'll be a little surprised if it gets there. Uh,
Speaker 1: but I knew Mark had eleven point eight, which I
Speaker 1: didn't think it had it in it, And they made
Speaker 1: twelve and a half million, besting the you know that
Speaker 1: goofy movie Avatar with all this week? Yeah this week? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was knocked Avatar that in another movie
Speaker 1: knocked Avatar to the number one spot after you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of months. Yeah, I mean, I like Vitory
Speaker 1: if people would go back to listen to the other episode.
Speaker 1: I came out of that guessing game thinking like, why
Speaker 1: probably getting housed here because, like I tried, Greg, Greg
Speaker 1: has long played this Hollywood box office thing. We used
Speaker 1: to do this in our cubicles, and I was like, Greg,
Speaker 1: seems super plugged in listen he went with three million.
Speaker 1: I thought, well, I've overshot this, but we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: But then you just you never know, like when you
Speaker 1: have a star producer attached to this and he timely,
Speaker 1: in a timely fashion announces his retirement, um in the
Speaker 1: days and hours leading up to it, and it just
Speaker 1: brought everyone's mind back to Tom Brady. Then this product,
Speaker 1: this pictures tied to him, you know. And you know what,
Speaker 1: also it was written by the people who did Book Smart,
Speaker 1: which was a great movie, started hired the week this
Speaker 1: movie came out. Yeah, retired to base. They're the premier
Speaker 1: the day before the middle. It's fine, it's fine. He
Speaker 1: could do whatever he wants. He's Tom Brady. But like
Speaker 1: sitting on the beach getting choked up announcing his retirement
Speaker 1: five days before the movie that he has a financial
Speaker 1: stake and came out. Maybe it wasn't his organic as
Speaker 1: perhaps I think a lot of people have questioned the time,
Speaker 1: maybe questioned like how dare you it's his choice? Maybe
Speaker 1: still very much um you know about the brand. The
Speaker 1: buzz is solid though, like Rachel really liked it. If
Speaker 1: you hadn't listened to rate Rachel's party. You should. But
Speaker 1: she really liked it, and yeah there was. There's been
Speaker 1: good feedback. The reviews are actually like way funnier than
Speaker 1: uh then you would expect funnier. I haven't seen a
Speaker 1: lot of place since I'm saying he's like funnier, like
Speaker 1: than than um. You know, I had any right to
Speaker 1: be like just the trailer bits a bit. But what
Speaker 1: I didn't really take anto account with my thing was
Speaker 1: the unique strategy Paramount Pictures had. By the way, one
Speaker 1: of the top i've action comedy debuts in a while.
Speaker 1: It's been a bad market. Uh. Many action comedy has
Speaker 1: been hurting for about fifteen years. Many films try to
Speaker 1: go through the higher ticket prices, do some three D,
Speaker 1: do some surgeon pricing. They went the other way. They
Speaker 1: did discount pricing for Mate's for seniors, half the ticket
Speaker 1: buyers over the age of fifty. On Sunday, without even
Speaker 1: getting a pop from me, my mom texted me and said,
Speaker 1: guess where I'm going e D for Brady with a friend.
Speaker 1: I love it, And she said she heard our little
Speaker 1: conversation on the podcast. Is your mom gonna want to
Speaker 1: go the eleven PM show? You know, She's gonna go
Speaker 1: with a friend probably around two is a win for
Speaker 1: the Hollywood fat cats. Who who you would think our connection,
Speaker 1: our level of connection to NFL and the culture would
Speaker 1: have led us to nail this. But other than Mark,
Speaker 1: nobody really saw this coming. It's it's a credit to you, Mark.
Speaker 1: I think you're pumping me up and I'll just you
Speaker 1: could be a it could be the Mark coming. I
Speaker 1: got to admit the whole um helmet catch versus um
Speaker 1: what's the Eagles play called? Now, I forget the Philly Special.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, as time is going on and more
Speaker 1: things keep happening Philly Special, I'm starting to one, at
Speaker 1: least in terms of my opinion, I might be moved
Speaker 1: to to believe that Mark should win these sandwiches. Like
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's it's been coming. This is a
Speaker 1: massive segment on this show right now. Yeah, it's And
Speaker 1: I think what you need like the Helmeley catch, just
Speaker 1: I think that's the word Philly Special is actually just
Speaker 1: still so hard in the culture that catch just had
Speaker 1: its fifteenth anniversary. Yeah, I would like to see where
Speaker 1: the Philly Special is in the in the national consciousness
Speaker 1: in fifteen after fifteen feels like it's only been growing.
Speaker 1: That's where I had to get mark. This is your
Speaker 1: you know, gradual decline Part two D. I don't think
Speaker 1: so I will. This is a hill that I will
Speaker 1: literally die on like I would climb the hill. I
Speaker 1: know you'll in but in the middle of the night
Speaker 1: you'll wake up realizing it's not only that I am
Speaker 1: wrong on that, it's that everyone realizes I'm wrong. If
Speaker 1: you understand pro football, you understand now because I'm an
Speaker 1: old head and we have a whole new like culture
Speaker 1: of people that don't even know what Super Bowl forty
Speaker 1: two was. They don't even know about Randy Moss, they
Speaker 1: don't know about eighteen and oh and yes, that hurts
Speaker 1: it right now because Philly Special was much more recent.
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen is it's gonna become just a total
Speaker 1: Philly regional thing in about five years. And it was
Speaker 1: just a silly trick play at the end of the
Speaker 1: first half. Um and it was cute, It was cute,
Speaker 1: but the helmet catch for people who actually know pro
Speaker 1: football understand that was one of the seismic moments in
Speaker 1: the history of the sport. I have one idea for
Speaker 1: how it could become literally eternal um. And I'll just
Speaker 1: say it quickly, whether it's the Eagles that do this
Speaker 1: come Sunday, but even better if the Chiefs. Let's say
Speaker 1: it's overtime and the Chief's mind down to the Eagles
Speaker 1: four yard line with eight seconds to go, and you know, listen,
Speaker 1: we're gonna are we gonna go field goal for field
Speaker 1: goal and they say, forget that we're running. We're gonna
Speaker 1: literally call it the Philly Special and beat the Eagles
Speaker 1: with the Philly Special years later. That that's part of
Speaker 1: the mark. That's part of the issue with me, is
Speaker 1: like anytime someone runs a play anywhere similar, even if
Speaker 1: it's not the Philly Special in terms of that's how
Speaker 1: they use it. They're just like, here comes another Philly Special.
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's in uh, it's in the mix.
Speaker 1: But here's the other thing. You can't run the helmet
Speaker 1: catch now, right, that was a once in a lifetime
Speaker 1: play that if you were a fan of football and
Speaker 1: you understand the history of the game, there was so
Speaker 1: much on the line and at stake when that play happened.
Speaker 1: To me, it is the most important play in the
Speaker 1: history of that. It's it's so there's clearly different schools
Speaker 1: of thoughts. But let's say it's like saying, oh, because um,
Speaker 1: this guy invented a car, that the invention of the
Speaker 1: cars diminished because other people invented better cars this time
Speaker 1: went on or their own variations of cars, Like cars
Speaker 1: don't matter because it's been recreated and redone because they're
Speaker 1: so eternally essential, purely special, is essential and needed by
Speaker 1: human being. About this, the helmet catch is a flying car,
Speaker 1: like there's never been one before, there hasn't been one since. No,
Speaker 1: I don't so you could just update the model of
Speaker 1: your car and say that makes the Initially, I think
Speaker 1: that that's not where we're going with the car argument.
Speaker 1: It's a flying car moon shot of the helmet catch.
Speaker 1: It's also like crash into the ground. To recap for
Speaker 1: the significant portion of our audience who may have no
Speaker 1: idea what we're talking about. Because this was a sandwich
Speaker 1: bet or prop from five years ago. You said six
Speaker 1: six is still so recent that factors in that that
Speaker 1: a play in that game would end up overwhelming the
Speaker 1: helmet catches. Like the most famous nicknamed play in the
Speaker 1: history of the Super Bowl. I mean talk about getting
Speaker 1: if you if you don't want to accept it, Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, but it's like it's getting pretty
Speaker 1: close to what happened. This is why, and I'm willing
Speaker 1: to be the villain on this, but this is the
Speaker 1: old horses, shoes and hand garnades thing, Like you absolutely
Speaker 1: almost nailed it, because it is unquestionably one of the
Speaker 1: more famous plays in Super Bowl history. So for you
Speaker 1: to predict that before the game was excellent. But just
Speaker 1: because it was it is one of the most famous
Speaker 1: players ever, doesn't mean it gets to be the most
Speaker 1: famous just because it was so close to being And
Speaker 1: none of these are to ever overcome. The NFL Network
Speaker 1: NFL Films releasing the top ten plays in NFL history,
Speaker 1: and I think Philly Special was like four and helmet
Speaker 1: Catch was one, and they released like days ago calling
Speaker 1: it the biggest play in the Super Bowl the field.
Speaker 1: So they're all over the map too with what they're doing.
Speaker 1: But you I like to see that. I don't like
Speaker 1: that either, because there's so much game after that. The
Speaker 1: Patriots had the lead after I think the bigger argument
Speaker 1: against it is that it happened to close the first
Speaker 1: half I hear that, but I simply will not move
Speaker 1: off point for Brady. And let's get to it quickly.
Speaker 1: Let's just roll through the news. Okay, we got we
Speaker 1: got a big week coming up, Super Bowl, like we
Speaker 1: gotta watch it. Yeah, we gotta watch our coach. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, Davante Adams, he was the Pro Bowl. Happened
Speaker 1: this weekend. That's the thing, that's a reimagined thing anyway, Uh,
Speaker 1: Davante Adams was there and Aaron Rodgers the big name
Speaker 1: out there at quarterback. UH. Adams built his incredible career
Speaker 1: in Green Bay with Rogers before having a big year
Speaker 1: in his first year with the Raiders. That was supposed
Speaker 1: to be a long term marriage between Davante Adams and
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Derek car obviously on the way out with
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Could Aaron Rodgers end up following Davante Adams
Speaker 1: Uh to the desert and our own Cameron Wolf, our
Speaker 1: buddy uh NFL Networks on Cameron Wolf talked to Davante
Speaker 1: Adams out um that very thing and help to notice
Speaker 1: you have some fun on social media talking about Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers can move and say your neighborhood. Have you started
Speaker 1: recruiting Aaron Rodgers to be the new Raiders, Uh quarterback? Uh?
Speaker 1: Why why wouldn't would anybody? That's my guy obviously, and
Speaker 1: wish we're thinking about. We'll see what happens. What's your
Speaker 1: best recruiting pitch? Uh that I'm here like that, um
Speaker 1: by the way, much like the Hill for you, Mark
Speaker 1: is getting the um Philly Special to be the biggest
Speaker 1: Super Bowl play ever. You know that I said to
Speaker 1: two thousand is gonna be a big year for winning
Speaker 1: back in the in the last year. I think that's
Speaker 1: that it was building towards this year. All right, well,
Speaker 1: I think you did you catch that from Adam? You
Speaker 1: can know you could point to that as winning, could
Speaker 1: point to that, like the way he hit uh was
Speaker 1: very sheen. You could point to that. That's as far
Speaker 1: as I'll go. You also like retweeted this guy who
Speaker 1: was verified and it wasn't like verified Blue, But I'm
Speaker 1: not sure why he was verified. He's not a football
Speaker 1: reporter who was essentially saying, like Aaron Rodgers to Green
Speaker 1: Bay has happened, I mean, to Las Vegas is happening,
Speaker 1: and then I'm trying to find Uh, he's not a
Speaker 1: reporter but he's verified he's not a football reporter, and
Speaker 1: Adams retweeted it and then people went crazy with that,
Speaker 1: and I kind of wanted to throw this in just
Speaker 1: because there was a pretty significant report from ESPN that
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about here, which just said that at
Speaker 1: this point, the Packers are essentially leaning towards moving on
Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers, and it's like, that's significant. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that means they are moving on, but the
Speaker 1: fact that someone, okay, the lead reporter at ESPN, Adam Schefter,
Speaker 1: putting that out there is noteworthy. It makes me think, Okay,
Speaker 1: this maybe really is happening. I think it's very possible too.
Speaker 1: I could just sort of if I'm if I'm Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 1: I don't want this to happen because I don't want
Speaker 1: to suddenly have to deal with the fact that potentially
Speaker 1: Jordan's love, who looked pretty good when he played here
Speaker 1: in the air this season, isn't that guy. You're left
Speaker 1: in a total wilderness and Abyss at quarterback, Um you
Speaker 1: can get a lot for but you're in rebuild note
Speaker 1: at that point, but it's it's feasible. I guess I
Speaker 1: just don't see. I have questions around Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: specifically Josh McDaniels working together in a Josh McDaniels system.
Speaker 1: Just the idea of Josh McDaniels nearon Rodgers. I've heard
Speaker 1: little things here and there that like, temperamentally that's just
Speaker 1: not a match. And and and it does matter Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers having at this point go learn and learn an
Speaker 1: entirely new offense, versus say like the Haniel Hackett New York,
Speaker 1: where it's like, at least you know the playbook going in.
Speaker 1: There are some reasons to go do it. The owner
Speaker 1: really wants it. You don't love the owner's industry. If
Speaker 1: you're Aaron Rodgers, you can get over that. But like
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett offers you your playbook, and is it easy
Speaker 1: just to start completely over in Las Vegas with Josh McDaniels,
Speaker 1: who is about as stubborn as they come when it
Speaker 1: comes to the offense he runs. Do anybody have any
Speaker 1: takes on the Pro Bowl? Uh? The NFC beat the
Speaker 1: Act thirty three. There were a skills comp Titian three
Speaker 1: flag football games. Tyler Huntley doubled the amount of touchdown
Speaker 1: passes through in the regular season with four scores in
Speaker 1: one of the games. I guess or I had a couple, so, uh,
Speaker 1: I see this game and these events through my children.
Speaker 1: They were super into it. They were into the skills competition,
Speaker 1: which still had like on Thursday night they did, so
Speaker 1: they basically broken into two parts. They did a couple
Speaker 1: of skills stuff like target practice and like water literally
Speaker 1: water biling throwing and like longest drive and stuff on
Speaker 1: Thursday night and like still a couple of million people
Speaker 1: watched that, and then they did the flag football games
Speaker 1: and some kick you know, kicker tic tacto stuff. I
Speaker 1: don't know. My kids were super into it. The players
Speaker 1: seemed to like it, and I suspect people still watched
Speaker 1: that so they're they're never going back. It didn't the
Speaker 1: flag football did not seem like overly competitive, and I
Speaker 1: was a little surprised they have a full stadium there
Speaker 1: of people watching. I don't know how much they're they're
Speaker 1: paying to go into that stadium, but uh, the kids
Speaker 1: could not have been more into the whole thing. I
Speaker 1: think it's an event for how much do you think
Speaker 1: the NFC players made for winning the game each Do
Speaker 1: you know the answer, I do sixty thousand, thirty five thousand.
Speaker 1: I'd say, Mark, you're locked in right now eighty four grand,
Speaker 1: which probably covers their room service. NFL players are doing
Speaker 1: nothing for thirty five dollars. No not Uh, let's see. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals still have not hired a head coach,
Speaker 1: but according to Bert Breer of s I, the team
Speaker 1: has narrowed the field to three finalists. They would be
Speaker 1: Steelers senior defensive assistant and linebackers coach and former Dolphins
Speaker 1: head coach Brian Flores, Captain Low and A Rumo. The
Speaker 1: Bengals do you See? And Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafgar
Speaker 1: are the remaining candidates. In the old Mark the Seesaw
Speaker 1: of how you handle head coach hirings usually do the
Speaker 1: laid back offensive innovator, and then that doesn't work, you
Speaker 1: go with the hard nosed defensive guy. This all feels
Speaker 1: like it should be Brian Flores' job. We will see
Speaker 1: if it is, I think, and a Rumo is a
Speaker 1: real chance. Cough good. I mean, I just feel like
Speaker 1: I know less about what Mike cop has done just
Speaker 1: through him, versus being like Brian Dables guy. This year.
Speaker 1: But like I and read the guy last year, that's
Speaker 1: a nice I guess it's like, do is this an
Speaker 1: organization that says everything is based around Kyler Murray and
Speaker 1: growing him? Uh? No, not if you hire a defensive guy,
Speaker 1: because I think the thing that worries me about a
Speaker 1: little bit is like they're a bounce back team candidate
Speaker 1: just by being maybe less drama magnity next season. And
Speaker 1: if the offense thrives and Kyler Murray thrives, then that coach,
Speaker 1: that offensive coordinator goes somewhere else as a head coach
Speaker 1: and you're starting over with Kyler Murray. Again. They're not
Speaker 1: in a hurry in a RUMO is interviewing Friday. So
Speaker 1: that makes me think they might be waiting for an
Speaker 1: assistant from one of the teams. I'm not the only
Speaker 1: one that speculated that that they might be waiting because
Speaker 1: they can't talk to the Eagles in chiefs guys. But
Speaker 1: I like, I like three they picked. We got some
Speaker 1: breaking news connected to the Cardinals, so A. J. Green
Speaker 1: is retiring. Uh finished up his career with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I would have liked to see him tack on a
Speaker 1: few more memorable moments there because I think he has
Speaker 1: a legitimate Hall of Fame case. People don't think of
Speaker 1: him that way, but if you look at the all pros,
Speaker 1: you look at the numbers, he certainly is better than
Speaker 1: some Hall of Fame than wide receivers in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. That's for another time. He was a really
Speaker 1: great receiver for a long time and uh made Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton I think a lot of money. Yeah, Green was
Speaker 1: definitely in the Hall of Fame trajectory, and then he
Speaker 1: just totally kind of fell off a cliff really after
Speaker 1: he suffered the ankle injury and missed the two thousand
Speaker 1: nineteen season. He was banged up the year before in
Speaker 1: and after that um he had one year more year
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati where he appeared disinterested at times, two years
Speaker 1: in Arizona that were utterly forgettable. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he'll fall short of the Hall of Fame for that reason.
Speaker 1: But when he was in his heyday and his to these,
Speaker 1: he was absolutely like a top five guy. I thought
Speaker 1: of that position, thinking these wide receivers, they're compiled stats.
Speaker 1: You've gotta hit them like with an inflation type scale,
Speaker 1: the way you do with movie tickets. Because like him
Speaker 1: getting the same amount of yardage as someone way back
Speaker 1: when is not the same thing. Can you see four
Speaker 1: seasons where he's done very little? But then you like
Speaker 1: look at the players that got in and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: Isaac Bruce got in. I mean, at no point in
Speaker 1: Isaac Bruce's career was he as good as AJ Green
Speaker 1: was when AJ Green was at his best. And no
Speaker 1: point in Hines Awards careers, which is that, like hinds Ward,
Speaker 1: was he that good. So it's like, okay, I know,
Speaker 1: seven straight Pro Bowls essentially to start his career and
Speaker 1: then nothing else. It's like a nice peek. Let's pause
Speaker 1: right here, take a break, we'll be right back. Alright,
Speaker 1: we're back. The Cowboys have filled their offensive coordinator post
Speaker 1: after Kellen mare Moore was let go and quickly moved
Speaker 1: on to the Chargers. It is Brian Schottenheimer, the well
Speaker 1: traveled Brian Schottenheimer UM who was promote UH to offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator UM. He was signed to the team last March
Speaker 1: as an offensive consultant UH and now he gets an
Speaker 1: in house promotion. He will not be calling plays, as
Speaker 1: we understand it. The ideas that will be Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: underdog calling plays. But Shoddy is once again in an
Speaker 1: o C chair man. I mean they're just setting themselves
Speaker 1: up to be a punch line a little bit. I
Speaker 1: mean it's not it's not as fall. I forget who
Speaker 1: sends it out every time? Is it? Is it Ben
Speaker 1: slack Um? Like of Schottenheimer's resume, and like every spot
Speaker 1: he's been at essentially like did Borley not what you want? Um?
Speaker 1: And then did better like the second he left, including Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: You know he was running that offense under urban Meyer.
Speaker 1: It just tells me, Mike McCarthy, you're the play caller.
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. There was there were reports they were sparring
Speaker 1: at the end a little bit, and Kellen Moore was
Speaker 1: calling plays. You've just gotten someone that I think, will
Speaker 1: you know, not Bristole it the idea that they have
Speaker 1: less power Dad, He's in charge. Absolutely, they're gonna make
Speaker 1: it happen or he's gonna do it. He's gonna go
Speaker 1: down doing it his way, and which is the way
Speaker 1: to do it. I think if you want to look
Speaker 1: at it pessimistically, if the Cowboys are three and seven
Speaker 1: in November and Mike McCarthy gets canned, you have Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn as your new interim coach, and Brian Schottenheimer call
Speaker 1: and plays for you, so they you know, does that
Speaker 1: get you excited? I don't know, does anything get you
Speaker 1: decided about the Cowboys. I think that we're at that
Speaker 1: point of the year after another sad January exit where
Speaker 1: you're just kind of like a little bit like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. Another receiver would maybe a Marii Cooper. The
Speaker 1: Panthers hired their d C Gero ever O the coach
Speaker 1: um uh. He was in Denver and he had head
Speaker 1: head coaching interviews and he lands on his feet with
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Feels like a good hire Greggy. I like
Speaker 1: it for the Panthers, especially when they like whenever a
Speaker 1: team gets the guy that everyone wanted, it's just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they paid him more. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: that's David Tepper's money. Maybe he just likes the idea
Speaker 1: of working with Frank Greig. Because he had a lot
Speaker 1: of head coaching interviews. I would say he was probably
Speaker 1: the top defensive coordinator candidate for a number of teams.
Speaker 1: Minnesota really wanted him, Denver really pushed to not let
Speaker 1: him out of his contract, and I think he stood
Speaker 1: his ground and said he just didn't want to be there.
Speaker 1: And uh, Frank Greik, that's that's I like that combo,
Speaker 1: Frank Greig. And I mean it could be a head
Speaker 1: coach year from now, so it could be a one
Speaker 1: year thing. But they've got there's a bunch of players
Speaker 1: on Carolina's defense. If they get a quarterback that people
Speaker 1: you can get excited about, whether it's through the draft
Speaker 1: or get a nice veteran. Um, they will be talked
Speaker 1: about as a division because look what's happened to the Bucks.
Speaker 1: It's like, whoever gets Derek Carr in that division? I
Speaker 1: just feel like that's probably the division he goes to
Speaker 1: will probably be the favorite. That's coaching of um. With
Speaker 1: all due respect to Steve Wilkes, who did a nice
Speaker 1: job when he was there. But I think you you
Speaker 1: get excited about this new staff, get a better quarterback
Speaker 1: in there, you have the defensive pieces, Um, they have
Speaker 1: playmakers on offense. Yes, they could absolutely take that division. Um.
Speaker 1: Hey remember we had Bridget on the show a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and you know Bridget, she is a
Speaker 1: polarizing figure in this room anyway, very popular with the
Speaker 1: audience Internationally, she's polarizing too. Well. I just want to
Speaker 1: point something out that Um. Sometimes it's it comes back
Speaker 1: on me. It's like, why is Bridget only agree with
Speaker 1: her her maker's predictions about the league, the maker being
Speaker 1: me Um. But then something happens. What happened late last week,
Speaker 1: The one prediction of the old zeuster throughout there was
Speaker 1: that Tony Romo, who's in a slump, if you want
Speaker 1: to call that, as a color man for CBS to
Speaker 1: spite that huge contract he signed, his struggles are gonna
Speaker 1: lead to CBS sitting him down. And I believe I
Speaker 1: called it a come to Jesus conversation about what he
Speaker 1: needs to do to get better. And sure enough, our
Speaker 1: great friend Andrew Marshaunt of the New York Post headline,
Speaker 1: CBS execs tried intervention to address Tony Romo romo slippage
Speaker 1: in booth and they will attempt to do so again
Speaker 1: this offseason. So the intervention was even before this season.
Speaker 1: It was before it and they're gonna do it again
Speaker 1: this offseason. So this was a thing we plugged her in.
Speaker 1: I think we decided this is dangerous. But Bridget, thank
Speaker 1: you well, thank you Bridget. Um Uh Romo. Indeed, according
Speaker 1: to Marcian, who has just plugged in as anybody in
Speaker 1: sports media, UH is facing some pushback internally with CBS
Speaker 1: that wanted him to kind of get back to what
Speaker 1: made him a sensation beginning in two thousand seventeen and
Speaker 1: led to the ten year, eight million dollar Deally signed
Speaker 1: a couple of years later. I learned more about this
Speaker 1: Romo thing through this martiawn article where he linked to
Speaker 1: other stories that I didn't even know happen, including uh
Speaker 1: Dick ever saw speaking on a on an HBO show
Speaker 1: how Romo is just lazy, straight up said that Romo
Speaker 1: lost his passion. It's obvious. And I do kind of
Speaker 1: get that feel that it's almost like he gets so
Speaker 1: excited in the games almost to make up for the
Speaker 1: fact that he's not doing like a lot of the homework.
Speaker 1: And you can kind of see maybe he's not as
Speaker 1: some of the squealing and things during the game and
Speaker 1: just the hero worship of certain quarters. And it's also
Speaker 1: just like you can hit a button and do that,
Speaker 1: you don't need to practice to do that. So, Uh,
Speaker 1: good job by Dan, Thank you. I guess good job
Speaker 1: on that one. Master, you nailed it. Thank you. Uh,
Speaker 1: good good job, I guess by Ever calling him out,
Speaker 1: although then I we talked about although this is the
Speaker 1: same guy that hired Tony Dungee and has kept him
Speaker 1: on for a decade. So Andrew Brees I Ever saw
Speaker 1: and has lived ten lives within the media sphere of
Speaker 1: professional sports and beyond. Uh, he's definitely in d G
Speaker 1: A F mode about like what opinions he shares at
Speaker 1: this point, like this, it's similar to what we were saying.
Speaker 1: So I don't like. I think we can return to
Speaker 1: my primary objective, planning the revolution. Good luck to you.
Speaker 1: That's a problem. I don't this. This is absurd to me.
Speaker 1: This is absurd because I think, I mean, I'm probably
Speaker 1: one of the lesser world supporters around. I know you
Speaker 1: you love him because of his enthusiasm, and I like
Speaker 1: that marries with your reaction to football. I think in
Speaker 1: sort of the way that you respond to football. But
Speaker 1: for me, the idea of your first you don't have
Speaker 1: an intervention with someone unless they're valuable. They're not sitting
Speaker 1: around huddling two off seasons a row with their ninth booths. Uh,
Speaker 1: color analyst guy, He's just gonna go do what he does,
Speaker 1: like Romo is still better than of the people doing this. Um,
Speaker 1: I can't what. I can't comment on whether he's well.
Speaker 1: I mean we're or of a color analyst. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have. They are invested in him and want him to.
Speaker 1: I mean they also take these guys and I think
Speaker 1: he's a victim of his early success. They take these
Speaker 1: guys and they have zero practice and they throw them in.
Speaker 1: And I just want to make sure that some producer,
Speaker 1: because I like, if you really believe in what you're
Speaker 1: doing the last people, you should take notes from our
Speaker 1: executives and producers on how to be yourself on air.
Speaker 1: I think for the most part. And I wonder if
Speaker 1: someone got to Romo and said, like, chill on the
Speaker 1: predictions if they're not getting them all right, or this
Speaker 1: or that. But I mean Romo like is outside of
Speaker 1: Greg Olson. I think he's a Greg Olson thing too.
Speaker 1: If you took Greg Olson away, people would be higher
Speaker 1: on Romo. Like the idea that they're meeting with him,
Speaker 1: that he's lazy and all this stuff. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: even this, the stories themselves are enough that he knows
Speaker 1: they're all out there. So next season it's like a
Speaker 1: big you know he knows, he knows. Now, can I
Speaker 1: just I'm gonna write out because you said, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at I got Olson ahead of Romo now and this
Speaker 1: isn't how I felt a couple of year ago, years ago. Collinsworth,
Speaker 1: I have ahead of him, Akeman, I have ahead of him,
Speaker 1: Charles Davis, I have ahead of him. I have Mark
Speaker 1: Sanchez now ahead of him. Um, I'm sure I'm missing
Speaker 1: a couple of others that you can tell you, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't have all those people ahead of him, but
Speaker 1: like I Olson, I would if all first. First of all,
Speaker 1: the Olson lost two years from now, lost his role
Speaker 1: to Tom Brady. Like they're making a major mistake. You
Speaker 1: have something that perfect. Tom Brady was on the Column
Speaker 1: Cowherd Show today in Fact, and he revealed that the
Speaker 1: plan now that he has that he's retired from football,
Speaker 1: he's got a hit movie, but he also has this
Speaker 1: massive contract that he signed with Fox to be uh
Speaker 1: in their booth. He said he expects to begin his
Speaker 1: Fox broadcasting career in the fall of so not this
Speaker 1: season and next season. Uh, He'll he's calling it a
Speaker 1: gap year. Um and uh, this is what he had
Speaker 1: to say. I want to be great at what I do.
Speaker 1: I was talking even last week with the people at
Speaker 1: Fox Sports and the leadership there. Allowing me to start
Speaker 1: my opportunity in the fall of is something that's great
Speaker 1: for me. Um. Now, I know there's some speculation in
Speaker 1: this room that he'll never take this job. I totally disagree,
Speaker 1: and hearing this quote from Brady makes me think even more.
Speaker 1: He's serious about it. He's looking for a new challenge,
Speaker 1: he wants to be great at it, and I buy
Speaker 1: it that he's going to put in that work, that
Speaker 1: legendary work ethic. I don't know if he'll be good
Speaker 1: when rolls around, but I buy that he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to die right in it and also supplanted Greg Olsen
Speaker 1: without any experience at all. I I disagree because, look,
Speaker 1: I said a few weeks ago, he's never taking that job.
Speaker 1: The next actual piece of information about this job is
Speaker 1: he's not taking it for another year. That's not that's
Speaker 1: your way of processing the job right now. He could
Speaker 1: do it, but he wants to have time off and
Speaker 1: see how this is all gonna go. And this is
Speaker 1: just bs that you say in the meantime, and maybe
Speaker 1: he'll do the job. Maybe he'll do the studio job.
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll think that's really easy, which it is easier
Speaker 1: than I think being the game analysts. And that's a
Speaker 1: way to pay him ten years and three million dollars
Speaker 1: to be a studio analysts. I think that can all change. Well,
Speaker 1: they've also got the greeting, the meet and greets, the Murdochs.
Speaker 1: I think it's it has to be considered TB D
Speaker 1: on whether he'll not he'll ultimately do this, I believe
Speaker 1: because I so. I believe that. I believe that he
Speaker 1: wants to be prepared and not just four five months
Speaker 1: from now be doing stuff like this necessarily. But I
Speaker 1: also think everything else I know about Tom Brady, he
Speaker 1: never he always ran towards every challenge, whether it's what
Speaker 1: you're down twenty three, whether it's I'm gonna come back
Speaker 1: or not and play. It's like in Bang this is
Speaker 1: the thing. When I hear I'm gonna wait a year
Speaker 1: to do it, I'm not convinced because he's going to
Speaker 1: spend whole year trying to become the best at it
Speaker 1: necessarily at all. I think you just dive into it.
Speaker 1: I think I also think he knows enough to know this.
Speaker 1: I don't understand what he Here's why because I think
Speaker 1: he's smart enough to know he doesn't know how he's
Speaker 1: gonna feel in July or August. He really doesn't know
Speaker 1: how he's gonna feel in the spring or fall of
Speaker 1: He knows this is all totally different, and so this
Speaker 1: is a way for him to buy some time and
Speaker 1: see how he actually feels. And if he wants to
Speaker 1: do this counters right now he's not ready to do it.
Speaker 1: Counter Point, he was so excited about the idea of
Speaker 1: doing this that he signed the deal years ago. At
Speaker 1: this point, they came in. They came at him in
Speaker 1: part because like Aikman's leaving and they wanted to have
Speaker 1: this big splash, and he said he was retired. You know,
Speaker 1: it was a whole thing. Nothing wrong with jumping at
Speaker 1: the deal. But like he's gonna do a sandwich prop
Speaker 1: on this one that this feels like a absolutely he
Speaker 1: is calling. I don't know whether he'll be the number
Speaker 1: one or two team. They might even go as far
Speaker 1: as installing him at the two, probably at the three spot,
Speaker 1: but the number two spot. But he's absolutely calling games
Speaker 1: for Fox in two thousand. It's a long term one. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'll take you up on that. How about you a
Speaker 1: grave digger, I'll take sandwiches anywhere I can get him
Speaker 1: on this one. No, I agree with you, so I
Speaker 1: will not take you. I'm sorry. Let's good. Well, no,
Speaker 1: you agreed with me though, so that's good. They could
Speaker 1: shove they could try to shove him into uh Olsen
Speaker 1: three man booth two. I don't love that. Um No,
Speaker 1: they couldn't do that. That would be unfair at all.
Speaker 1: It's good. It's also weird to pay him this money
Speaker 1: and having the number two. That's a weird if that's
Speaker 1: the I don't know if that's the ultimate plan. I
Speaker 1: think if you pay him that money, you want him
Speaker 1: to really good and be their number one guy. But
Speaker 1: they have this like good problem now that Greg Olsen
Speaker 1: has really risen up and become you know, we gotta
Speaker 1: get Marshawn down the podcast. Let's do let's stick a
Speaker 1: let's stick a pin in this and talk about this
Speaker 1: post super Bowl. We'll get him in maybe in March
Speaker 1: or later in the month. Um finally, uh not finally,
Speaker 1: we got a few more things. Um. Joe Mixon uh
Speaker 1: was in the news. Uh was some issues involving the law.
Speaker 1: The misdemeter aggravated menacing charge filed against Bengals running back
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon was officially dismissed on Friday, but the charge
Speaker 1: could be refiled. A court document filed Friday stated that
Speaker 1: the charge against Mixing was dismissed at the request of
Speaker 1: the City prosecutors office. Uh. The dismissal came one day
Speaker 1: after a complaint was filed that alleged mix and knowingly
Speaker 1: pointed a firearm at a woman and said. Well, you
Speaker 1: don't need even to know what he said, but it's
Speaker 1: not a very good look for Joe Mixon. We'll see, uh,
Speaker 1: if this goes forward. But Greg, I know you um
Speaker 1: have thoughts about where Mixing is as a player at
Speaker 1: this stage and where the Bengals see him in their
Speaker 1: future or not in the future. Yeah. I think he
Speaker 1: was a strong candidate to be released before this happened
Speaker 1: because of his salary, because they need to get the
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow contract done. We have been rumors are they
Speaker 1: gonna trade te Higgins? That seems stupid, but either way, Uh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem when you're playing half the snaps of Soma. J. P.
Speaker 1: Ryan in the biggest game of the year. That's a
Speaker 1: pretty big sign that Joe Mixon was not the mixing
Speaker 1: of old and I see his agent and some other
Speaker 1: supporters in the media say, well, this was quickly dismissed,
Speaker 1: so no harm, no foul. But it's like the level
Speaker 1: of whether someone goes to jail or not or had
Speaker 1: faces official charges is not the same level of consideration
Speaker 1: your employers might take into account when wanting to like
Speaker 1: keep you employed at ten million dollars a year. And
Speaker 1: so I think this probably spells the end of his
Speaker 1: time in Cincinnati. Yeah, I mean like it it kind
Speaker 1: of gets forgotten now. But the Bengals when they took him,
Speaker 1: when they drafted him, there's a lot of controversy around
Speaker 1: that they went out and took a chance on him,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I think it came probably with the
Speaker 1: concept of like never again, are you gonna be doing
Speaker 1: stuff downtown or anywhere else, and like we don't know
Speaker 1: exactly what happened here, but um, you factoring all the
Speaker 1: other stuff, it could be check your later. They have
Speaker 1: they have a lot of is the uh decisions? To me,
Speaker 1: I think Yo Collins might be a cut there. They
Speaker 1: have a lot of could lose. They're one of the
Speaker 1: teams to watch this week. So the t Higgins thing,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm piecing this together because Jamar Chase is going
Speaker 1: to get a second contract. That's huge, and Higgins has
Speaker 1: the value and both on the team and outside the
Speaker 1: team of being potentially at number one in his own right.
Speaker 1: You do the old and the Titans will tell you
Speaker 1: it's it's dangerous business. You trade your stud go maybe
Speaker 1: draft a guy and get him under team control more friendly.
Speaker 1: That's dangerous. I would keep those guys together as long.
Speaker 1: Higgins is not a free agent. He's on contract ahead
Speaker 1: of it. Just like Yeah, I would be like, let's
Speaker 1: keep it together while while we can. Let's Yes, that's
Speaker 1: what I feel about our show as well. Real quick
Speaker 1: early Super Bowl injury report. Icole Hardman has that pelvis
Speaker 1: issue with the wide receiver. The Chiefs are banged up
Speaker 1: at wide receiver ahead of this game. Keep an eye
Speaker 1: on that anyway. He was moved to I r uh
Speaker 1: the this morning, so he is done in terms of
Speaker 1: this game. You won't see him. Juju Smith shoes three.
Speaker 1: He's got a knee ka Darius Tony has an ankle
Speaker 1: UH two more wide receivers. Uh for the Chiefs. Those
Speaker 1: guys are questionable for the game. Lagarius Snead Uh, their
Speaker 1: cover men, very good, very important guy for them, has
Speaker 1: a concussion, uh and we'll see if he's going to
Speaker 1: be available for the game. Also questionable Mark That was
Speaker 1: kind of an underrated and um Baldi talked about that
Speaker 1: when we had him on last week. And the Chiefs
Speaker 1: des are a ton of credit. They were all sorts
Speaker 1: of banged up in their secondary and handled te Higgins
Speaker 1: and handled Jamaar Ch'es and didn't let that game spin
Speaker 1: out of control. So it trends positively that they can
Speaker 1: handle the Eagles, but still they want sneed back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that sort of like showed who they were
Speaker 1: and how resilient they were, and they came up with
Speaker 1: different guys, and guys like Isaiah pa Jacob played a
Speaker 1: huge role in that game and I think well in
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. But it is one dynamic of this
Speaker 1: two week break where you kind of forget about this
Speaker 1: first week, the injury reports and the fact that like
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Shoe just still is swelling in his knee
Speaker 1: and going in against this Eagles defense, it's a different situation.
Speaker 1: I don't love the idea of them having to craft
Speaker 1: and create with lime two or three key guys potentially
Speaker 1: not themselves. I think they'll play, but not themselves, right
Speaker 1: and we we just don't know. They didn't practice at
Speaker 1: all last week. There was Chiefs practices. Uh, Willie Gay
Speaker 1: sounds like he will be back, and I think Tony
Speaker 1: feels like they're more optimistic about him. But it's the
Speaker 1: Eagles who have no injury worries at all, Like literally
Speaker 1: their entire team is available for this game. That makes
Speaker 1: such a big difference. Like it's not a coincidence. These
Speaker 1: two teams were both relatively healthy Eagles very you know,
Speaker 1: quite healthy during the season. They also had two of
Speaker 1: the easiest schedules in the entire league. Like, and that's
Speaker 1: no slight to them, but like these things matter, um
Speaker 1: and Tony at the time of his trade from the Giants,
Speaker 1: we and others made a big thing. What a great
Speaker 1: trade this is for Kansas City, huge upside. The Giants
Speaker 1: are gonna really regret this potentially. Right now, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are feeling a lot of like the Giants, like this
Speaker 1: guy is really good, he can be a difference maker,
Speaker 1: but he can't stay on the field, so hopefully we
Speaker 1: see the best version of Tony makes for a better game. Hey, Greggy,
Speaker 1: Gina Smith, your boy is a Comeback Player of the
Speaker 1: Year finalist that we'll find out about that on Thursday
Speaker 1: the NFL Honors Awards, hosted by Kelly Clarkson. Best Kelly
Speaker 1: Clarkson's song Mark the one where don't let Me Dancer,
Speaker 1: Please let Me Dance? What? I don't know the correct
Speaker 1: answers since you've been gone. Uh, let's see because of
Speaker 1: you would be you know, great one. That's she's got
Speaker 1: some bangers, but she perform I don't think so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's she'll probably do some songs. Um a couple. So
Speaker 1: have you got clarks in there where she sings you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like some comedy comedy singing comedy bits.
Speaker 1: All right, well you'll be there in your talk Greg,
Speaker 1: so um, anyway you want to hear from Gino. He
Speaker 1: was at the Pro Bowl, of course, because he was
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl quarterback this year. He lit up that
Speaker 1: flag football game. That was the only one I got
Speaker 1: a chance to watch before I headed out to the
Speaker 1: NASCAR at the Colosseum with my son. I never expected
Speaker 1: that my eight year old son would be dragging me
Speaker 1: to NASCAR events where Cypress Hill and Whiz Khalifa both
Speaker 1: are there as musical entertainment. It was fun though, Let's
Speaker 1: hear Gino. Wait wait, wait, did Cypress Hill do illusions? No,
Speaker 1: they just did the insane in the membrane. And what's
Speaker 1: their other big son? Did they do? Since you've been gone?
Speaker 1: Would fay to watch? Be real? Dude? All right, let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's hear Cam Wolfe again. By the way, getting the interview,
Speaker 1: he's been on absolutely on fire. All right, now, all right,
Speaker 1: let's hear Gina. You know, all signs are positive and
Speaker 1: so we just got to continue to work at it
Speaker 1: and no fun, you know, figure out what we can
Speaker 1: do to make sure it happens. So if you could
Speaker 1: put a one detained grade on it, what would you say,
Speaker 1: We'll be back in Seattle running the back. I'm very confident.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put a number on it, but I'm
Speaker 1: very confident and you know, I think things will work out.
Speaker 1: Uh number you know, tenants of journalism don't ask yes
Speaker 1: or no questions. And when you could really put him
Speaker 1: on the spot there, give me the one to ten number. Now, Gino,
Speaker 1: he's been around the block. He was in the New
Speaker 1: York media, he wasn't gonna give you that number because
Speaker 1: that would have been the headline across the blogs. Still
Speaker 1: give you very confident. That's a headline said, very confident
Speaker 1: that he will be in Seattle. That does seem like
Speaker 1: where it's going. Greggy. Yeah, this is one where I
Speaker 1: think you can trust from the player and the team
Speaker 1: perspective that they're being fourth right. It really feels like
Speaker 1: that's one spot that we know on some I don't
Speaker 1: know what the numbers are gonna be, but I think
Speaker 1: Gino Smith will be there now, whether they add a
Speaker 1: rookie or not. I tend to think they wouldn't that
Speaker 1: high in the draft, but I think this is that's
Speaker 1: like one place I feel like we kind of know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen at quarterback. Very little else we know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. I think we should have a come
Speaker 1: down player of the Year because this is a great
Speaker 1: story Regino, and if he goes and does it again
Speaker 1: in a second year, it's like we just simply believe
Speaker 1: that is who Gino Smith is. But he's a candidate
Speaker 1: to something like, oh wait a minute, would have a
Speaker 1: negative award, Like I know we wouldn't because it's the NFL,
Speaker 1: but it's just like it would be like, let's note
Speaker 1: the fact that just as the NFL, like in Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: really weird, always trend upwards for everyone all the time,
Speaker 1: there are other there is ebb and flow. It would
Speaker 1: be like, you know, Sam Donald in his third season
Speaker 1: gets the come down Player of the Year award. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think of who even Baker Mayfield sir, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess quarterbacks. That was another edition of yeah sure,
Speaker 1: sipping on Veno checking boots on the ground. I heard
Speaker 1: some good um just word that Gino and affable fellow
Speaker 1: there in Vegas. Just people that ran into him just
Speaker 1: right now. It's good to be Gino. Just you know,
Speaker 1: if you some great accuracy in that flag football, if
Speaker 1: you if you agree to do a go to a
Speaker 1: charity event or you know a kid's football camp with
Speaker 1: a teammate, do it wow. And if if if you
Speaker 1: don't do it, you gotta pay him back for the airfare.
Speaker 1: That's all that was a long time ago, four years old.
Speaker 1: He was a kid. I you can grow from it,
Speaker 1: but you're right that. I hope that I thought. I
Speaker 1: hope he's matured past that. But if someone doesn't do that,
Speaker 1: don't don't assault them, Yeah, you know, don't assault them.
Speaker 1: Don't be an idiot, right, That's that's that's a bigger
Speaker 1: that's very important to point that out as well. Do
Speaker 1: not break someone's jaw over a plane ticket. Um, Saints
Speaker 1: hire Joe Woods is their d C. Cool and Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones says st seron Mass they are back to the
Speaker 1: drawing board at Kicker with Brett Maher a free agent.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the hot tip on that one. I just
Speaker 1: want to say, like that, that whole thing struck me
Speaker 1: as so odd. How Dallas played the Maher after the
Speaker 1: meltdown in Monday night against the Box in the wild
Speaker 1: card round. There is no way he should ever been
Speaker 1: on that roster for a divisional round playoff game. And
Speaker 1: the fact that you carried him and used him in
Speaker 1: that game. And by the way, he didn't miss another
Speaker 1: extra point to start that game. It was blocked, but
Speaker 1: it would have been thirty yards to the left. It
Speaker 1: was blocked because it was a horrendous kick. Um, So
Speaker 1: you stuck with him for the biggest game that your
Speaker 1: franchise has had in quite some time, and then you're
Speaker 1: gonna just cut him loose as a free agent, Like,
Speaker 1: what's what was the point of keeping him for that game? Then?
Speaker 1: Like they should have just brought someone off the street
Speaker 1: that didn't have their head in a blender at that point.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys, man, what is going on with these guys?
Speaker 1: We love alkoholda back for that reason. So Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: can probably produce a quote on a week where you know,
Speaker 1: twenty five plus years ago, we'd be talking about the
Speaker 1: Cowboys this week. But unless Jerry Jones opens his mouth,
Speaker 1: there's nothing to say about Dallas, a team that's adrift.
Speaker 1: Oh it didn't make back to back division rounds. It's
Speaker 1: just something whoa not in the way they talk about themselves.
Speaker 1: That's young all right, that's it again, Uh NFL Plus.
Speaker 1: We are on NFL Plus and it won't be the
Speaker 1: first time. That's the other thing we've gotta make clear,
Speaker 1: Greg you mentioned it. It's not a one and done thing.
Speaker 1: We're doing Q and as on NFL Plus. Um, how
Speaker 1: can people access in again? Justin plus dot NFL dot
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Speaker 1: more plus dot NFL dot com. Uh, we're on a
Speaker 1: Q and A ahead of the super Bowl. Check that out,
Speaker 1: and um, stick around and uh yeah, it's time for
Speaker 1: us to catch a bird. Boys. I like how you
Speaker 1: brought that all back together. Thanks for the listeners to
Speaker 1: that reach out during this last weekend and stuff their
Speaker 1: West thoughts. We we we love that. I think, um,
Speaker 1: we We've said it before, but we we figured out
Speaker 1: what the hell we're doing doing this show at all
Speaker 1: without West. Like, to me, this show is sort of
Speaker 1: about that, like how did we figure out how to
Speaker 1: we lose our friend and how how do we do it?
Speaker 1: And that the listeners being part of it the whole
Speaker 1: time is how we did it. I think, Yes, well,
Speaker 1: said Greggy. I mean you could have made it in
Speaker 1: case that we should have taken a year off after
Speaker 1: that and just figured out what was going on, But
Speaker 1: we kept going and the listeners I've just said every
Speaker 1: time we do a live show, um, and I've said
Speaker 1: it on the show on the podcast, like thank you
Speaker 1: for sticking around. Yeah. I think it's a fair to
Speaker 1: acknowledge the show will literally never have any chance to
Speaker 1: be the same as it was, but it's okay. It
Speaker 1: can be something that it is now well said, well said.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You guys are just nailed. Everything you
Speaker 1: say is just perfect to me. Yes, super Bowl week,
Speaker 1: catching a bird and seeing Phoenix. I love you, Chris,
Speaker 1: he'd the call se