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Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast. Game Preview Ethan Greenberg Garrick Allen here
Speaker 1: bringing you a preview of the Jets Raiders matchup Week
Speaker 1: two of the NFL season. Fun fact to kick things off.
Speaker 1: Since two thousand two, the Jets Raiders have squared all
Speaker 1: more than any non divisional opponent. That's ten times six
Speaker 1: of I believe so oh not obviously the Jet just
Speaker 1: from the Jet from a Jets perspect from a Jet perspective,
Speaker 1: and six of those the Jets have one. Yeah. I've
Speaker 1: been out to Oakland a lot of times throughout my
Speaker 1: Jets career, had it some good memories. My first time
Speaker 1: out in Oakland actually was at the end of the
Speaker 1: two thousand one season, John Hall nailed a fifty three
Speaker 1: yard field goal that propelled the Jets into the playoffs. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the following week the Jets had to go back. He
Speaker 1: had to go back to the West Coast back to back,
Speaker 1: and the season ended there in Oakland. The following year,
Speaker 1: the season ended in Oakland once again and a guy
Speaker 1: who was a quarterback in that two thousand two teams
Speaker 1: going to join us later that ship, Honnyson, of course.
Speaker 1: And they like it when they call me Greg Popall
Speaker 1: preview podcast is while the voice of the Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: and a Syracuse alum. So I know you have an
Speaker 1: extra pep today. Oh for sure. Anytime you can get
Speaker 1: a syracused guy on the show, it's a good day
Speaker 1: other than me in addition to myself. But let's let's
Speaker 1: dive into football here. Obviously, week one not the outcome
Speaker 1: the Jets would have liked. But moving forward into week two,
Speaker 1: what are some of the things that the Jets need
Speaker 1: to flip the script on in order to put themselves
Speaker 1: in a position to potentially win this ballgame? On some well,
Speaker 1: very simply the score more points, right, because then you're
Speaker 1: going to a Raiders team that is has one of
Speaker 1: the best offenses in the league. You can make an
Speaker 1: argument that this is the most complete offense in the league.
Speaker 1: Tremendous quarterback and Derek Carr, weapons and and Crabtree and
Speaker 1: Cooper and underrated Seth Roberts and beast mode. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: beast Mode. I was going to get to him and
Speaker 1: then uh, a new tight end in the mix as well. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, so you're gonna have to score points in Oakland.
Speaker 1: And defensively, what you want to see from this team
Speaker 1: is just follow your assignments to your assignments, because that's
Speaker 1: one thing that we're left about. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of I means month Layerror's last week against the Bills.
Speaker 1: This is a totally different battle, and Oakland's gonna come out.
Speaker 1: I would anticipate challenging that yet secondary more than they
Speaker 1: were challenged early on by the Buffalo Bills, because the
Speaker 1: Bills primarily put that game into the hands of Tyrod Taylor,
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy and Charles Clay. For me, it's about the
Speaker 1: running game and matt for tambalal Powell combined average two
Speaker 1: and a half yards per carry, and simply put, that's
Speaker 1: not where either one of them or the offensive line
Speaker 1: would like to see that number. And the Jets do
Speaker 1: have two very talented running backs in those guys. And
Speaker 1: when you're going to a place like Oakland, the home opener,
Speaker 1: the return of the Oakland native beast mode Marshawn Lynch
Speaker 1: in the black Hole, you know, emotions are gonna be high.
Speaker 1: So for me, if you can try to establish a
Speaker 1: run game, especially early, it can kind of limit the
Speaker 1: crowd a little bit and eat some time off the
Speaker 1: clock and really get players accustomed to playing in a
Speaker 1: hostile environment, much like Bills Mafia last week. But you know,
Speaker 1: let's go out to Northern California, because if you want
Speaker 1: to know about Northern California and the Oakland Raiders, you
Speaker 1: got to speak to Greg Papa, the voice of the Raiders. Greg,
Speaker 1: I'm a Syracuse a lum as well, So Eric's in
Speaker 1: the minority here. But that's all right, we're gonna talking
Speaker 1: about Raiders football. I wear orange and University of Florida
Speaker 1: the wrong orange, the wrong color, the wrong shade. That's
Speaker 1: for another time. So simply put, obviously, the Raiders a
Speaker 1: very talented team. Some pundents have them pending for the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in February. So one of the biggest storylines
Speaker 1: throughout this offseason has been Marshawn Lynch and the return
Speaker 1: of beast Mode. Obviously last year took a year off
Speaker 1: from football. What have you seen from him throughout training camp,
Speaker 1: the preseason and now one game in the regular season. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, another guy who was in Syracuse alum al
Speaker 1: Davis would be out of this football team because the
Speaker 1: first time really in fifteen years, they could make a
Speaker 1: challenge to what I wanted to do every year, and
Speaker 1: that is when the Super Bowl contends forward. Marshawn made
Speaker 1: so much. I actually uh broke the story in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area right before St. Patrick's Day that I heard
Speaker 1: rumblings that that the Raiders were talking to him. Marshawn,
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I had known throughout was not going
Speaker 1: to stay retired. He just wanted to refresh his body
Speaker 1: for a year away from being you know, battering ram
Speaker 1: and uh So it's been invigorating, especially with the news
Speaker 1: that the Raiders are going to relocate to Las Vegas
Speaker 1: and twenty to bring arguably the best Oakland born football
Speaker 1: player that has ever played in the NFL. John Brody
Speaker 1: was born on this side of the Bay, but he
Speaker 1: was more of a forty Niner. Jim Plumpton was born
Speaker 1: in the South Bay. So Marshawn. There have been a
Speaker 1: few others, but really I think I think right now
Speaker 1: he's the most accomplished Oakland born So in the light
Speaker 1: of the move and everything he means and He's just
Speaker 1: pure Oakland. He's always been. I've been talking to his
Speaker 1: mom and mars Shawn for years, even when before he
Speaker 1: went to Seattle and he was playing for the Bills,
Speaker 1: he dreamed of playing for the Raiders, but the Raiders
Speaker 1: had just drafted Darren mcvatten and I was not going
Speaker 1: to do that. So he fits now. He fits the
Speaker 1: the physical nature. The head coach, Jack Dorio wants to
Speaker 1: have the Raiders have invested a lot of money in
Speaker 1: the interior three or their offensive line. Collect you Assemily,
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson and gave Jackson, and to have a power
Speaker 1: back like Marshaun uh next to that group, and and
Speaker 1: and also next to Derek because Marshawn can run with
Speaker 1: the quarterback under Saner, he can run with a quarterback
Speaker 1: and the shotgun. He can run with a quarterback in
Speaker 1: a pistol. He can run any inside zone, outside zone power.
Speaker 1: Marshawn just a runner. The one thing from the last
Speaker 1: game is I think the Raiders at times are too predictable.
Speaker 1: When they gave him the ball in Tennessee really loaded
Speaker 1: the box. I'd like to see him used more play action.
Speaker 1: He's still got the great ability to break tackles. I
Speaker 1: think he's the best tackle breaker we've had in the
Speaker 1: NFL since you know, my all start John Riggins, Larry'sanka
Speaker 1: the greater O Campbell, that kind of ability, and I
Speaker 1: from watching him, I don't he hasn't shown me the
Speaker 1: quick feat that he had in Seattle. He had really
Speaker 1: quick feet and would also avoid tacklers UH with his elusiveness,
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen that quite yet, that make up,
Speaker 1: you know, as he played more and gets his body
Speaker 1: back into really good shape football shape. But it's gonna
Speaker 1: be so exciting on Sunday for him to run out
Speaker 1: of the field of the black hole was open its
Speaker 1: own Marshawn Lynch. With this team being so good and
Speaker 1: the whole you know, specter of moving to Vegas there,
Speaker 1: I think the community and the football team names Marshawn
Speaker 1: Lynch Italy greg is going to be an emotional scene.
Speaker 1: As you just mentioned that, Marshawn Lynch making his regular
Speaker 1: season UH introduction wearing that silver and black at Oakland
Speaker 1: Alameda Colosseum. The hometown kid here he is. My question
Speaker 1: is though last week it seemed like the Raiders used
Speaker 1: him as a closer that came out firing the ball
Speaker 1: with Derek Carr one of the game's best young quarterbacks
Speaker 1: without a doubt. Um, But with this being the home
Speaker 1: opener and Marshawn Lynch being in Oakland, do you think
Speaker 1: they turned to him a little bit earlier in Week two?
Speaker 1: I think those factors really have nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, how you can move the
Speaker 1: ball and score touchdowns against this defense. And the strength
Speaker 1: of the Jets defense is the front of the linebackers
Speaker 1: are speedy. I'm a little perplexed why they don't show
Speaker 1: up and make more positive plays with their speed. Davis
Speaker 1: and Lee, and I like the secondary. The safeties are
Speaker 1: gonna be good. So uh, it's hard to say exactly
Speaker 1: how they're gonna attack them because I think, you know,
Speaker 1: every the three levels of the Jets defense can be
Speaker 1: good any one day. But I think to answer your question,
Speaker 1: I think that the Raiders are a little bit of
Speaker 1: a split personality offensively. If you watch the Tennessee game
Speaker 1: and the opener, Derek was in the shotgun, empty set,
Speaker 1: no backs behind him or next to him, five on
Speaker 1: the line, five eligible receivers, and let's go, it's Derek
Speaker 1: Carr show. But then you've got the money in the
Speaker 1: offensive line in the middle of the line and the
Speaker 1: left guard to right guard and Marshawn later in the
Speaker 1: game they dropped the hammer and gave you beast boat.
Speaker 1: To me, it's a lot like remember Bill Cowards Steelers
Speaker 1: that want Super Bowl forty over Seattle. You know they
Speaker 1: had past Willie Parker early in the game and Ben
Speaker 1: chucking in around Antoine randal Le and in hindes Ward.
Speaker 1: But then later in the game they ran the bus over.
Speaker 1: You know, they brought out Bettis And I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of what the Raiders have. They want to get
Speaker 1: the lead, not play so many fourth quarter drama games
Speaker 1: like they did last year. Jump the lead with Derek
Speaker 1: and then when it's time to run that forty second
Speaker 1: clock out, he want to give him a full bag
Speaker 1: of skittles and a lot of beef boats. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you about pair offensive weapons in Oakland who I
Speaker 1: think are going to start to get a lot of
Speaker 1: attention is the year goes on and we got to
Speaker 1: look beyond Marii Cooper and Michael Crabtree because we know
Speaker 1: kind of what those guys bring to the table. How
Speaker 1: about Seth Roberts and Jared Cook and their roles on
Speaker 1: this offense, well they they were involved. I mean, Jared
Speaker 1: Cook is the best Raider vertical running tight end they've
Speaker 1: had since Ricky Dudley. You know, they had Zach Miller here,
Speaker 1: but Zach was more of a possession saw spots and
Speaker 1: zol and just knew how to get open. But Jared
Speaker 1: Cook could get up the seam and a run. And
Speaker 1: Jared Cook has a little wiggled through his game more
Speaker 1: than I thought, and he's proven to be a better
Speaker 1: blocker than than he was certainly looking at him in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Seth Roberts is a guy Derek Card trusts.
Speaker 1: And to your point, I mean, if you're the opponents
Speaker 1: and your Todd Bowls, you know, Marii Cooper is the
Speaker 1: guy you worry about, and then Michael Crabtree because he
Speaker 1: can get opened suddenly, and then they just create weakness
Speaker 1: in the defense and stress points where where Jared Cook
Speaker 1: could top open. And likewise, Seth Roberts, I mean, Seth
Speaker 1: Roberts has taught some big, big touchdowns. He caught a
Speaker 1: huge one to put the Raids up to scores. So
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm talking about when they go when
Speaker 1: they go empty, said, those guys are involved in the
Speaker 1: running game and the passing game. There. The Raiders even
Speaker 1: bring Corderold Patterson. There's some formations they used Sunday where
Speaker 1: they did not have a running back on the field.
Speaker 1: They had four wide receivers Crabtree, Cooper, Robertson's Corderol Patterson,
Speaker 1: the former Viking, and Jared Cook. And Jared Cook is
Speaker 1: like a big wide receiver. So yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: kind of a split personality where they can give you
Speaker 1: all these eligibles and like Derek, just throw the bodily
Speaker 1: open guy. Defensively speaking, the elephant in the room is
Speaker 1: Khalil mac because he's defensive Player of the Year. But
Speaker 1: beyond him, in the secondary, you know a lot. You
Speaker 1: don't really hear a lot about the Raider secondary. So
Speaker 1: my question to you is what is the overall state
Speaker 1: of the secondary and what have you seen from them? Well,
Speaker 1: that's evolving. We were really concerned about it in the
Speaker 1: preseason and it was Allevier is a little bit opening
Speaker 1: day because they played so well after the first drive
Speaker 1: in Nashville and we're really good on third dat of
Speaker 1: the second half. But it's a it's it's a work
Speaker 1: in progress. You know, your top two draft picks this
Speaker 1: year in the draft, we're both defensive backs. Carry and
Speaker 1: Kindley out of Ohio State has not gotten on the
Speaker 1: field yet. He had a shin injury at the last
Speaker 1: o t a back in June and just has been
Speaker 1: slow to heal. Uh, he's starting to make progress. There's
Speaker 1: a good chance that he may make his debut against
Speaker 1: the Jets. Obi melon Fond, who are a big, tall
Speaker 1: safety from the University of Connecticut. Was supposed to be
Speaker 1: a matchup guy against tight ends and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he had a ankle injury, then later a knee procedure
Speaker 1: and he's gonna miss at least the first half of
Speaker 1: the year going on I R. So it's evolving. You know.
Speaker 1: He got Karl Joseph, the number one picked from two
Speaker 1: years ago out of West Virginia, next to the veteran
Speaker 1: Reggie Nelson. David Amerson is one corner, Seawan Smith the
Speaker 1: other T J. Carey. And it's been a vulnerable area.
Speaker 1: I always put the whole Raider back seven that the
Speaker 1: front has gotten better with some infusion of youth to
Speaker 1: join Khalil and Bruce Irvan. The linebacking corps is a
Speaker 1: bit of a quandary on life. I think they're starting
Speaker 1: to figure out how to use the personnel both of
Speaker 1: the base and the nickel. But that's an area of
Speaker 1: where they can attack. Now. Can Josh McCown do that
Speaker 1: on Sunday? You know with with the veteran guys they
Speaker 1: brought in Lake Kersen Turley and then the young guys.
Speaker 1: You know, Robby Anderson looks like a player to me, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I the Raider run defense looks better and
Speaker 1: I think there's front is strong. If there's one area
Speaker 1: that that they've got to figure out, it would be
Speaker 1: the back steven, the linebacking corps and how the secondary
Speaker 1: fits with that. You tweeted the other night during that
Speaker 1: Patriots Kansas City Chiefs game when the Chiefs put up
Speaker 1: nearly six hundred yards that the Raiders have more talent
Speaker 1: on defense than the Patriots. The difference is seeing them
Speaker 1: setting them up in great spots to succeed life that
Speaker 1: done in New England for so many years. You mentioned
Speaker 1: the two rookies who are in the opening day lineup
Speaker 1: for Oakland. What can you tell us about them well
Speaker 1: as far as your point about New England, I would
Speaker 1: say slow your rule on that that New England that
Speaker 1: this is the best secondary. I think Belichick has said
Speaker 1: going back to the Thai Law days and Stefan Gilmore.
Speaker 1: I know him well from watching the Bills. I've watched
Speaker 1: the whole career. He's an undisciplined player who I think
Speaker 1: is going to take time to learn how to study,
Speaker 1: prepared and play the defense. But over time, he's gonna
Speaker 1: get those guys to play, you know, and I worry
Speaker 1: about the I'll worry about it the hell with the Patriots,
Speaker 1: but there their nickel guys go on area role that
Speaker 1: you got to learn about. But he's gonna figure it
Speaker 1: out and they're gonna play good defense at some point.
Speaker 1: The England gave up the fewest points per game last
Speaker 1: year of any team in the NFL, even been him
Speaker 1: in Seattle. As far as the Raiders, FAMI won't play
Speaker 1: on Sunday, but Gary Conley at Ohio State I love.
Speaker 1: He was the best corner of the draft. You know,
Speaker 1: he had a he had a rape allegation right before
Speaker 1: the draft, and a lot of teams took him off
Speaker 1: the board, and the Raiders we wounded up drafting him
Speaker 1: at twenty four. They believed the story. Uh, it did
Speaker 1: go through the grand jury, but there was a no bill.
Speaker 1: He was not charged in Cleveland for what happened. Highly skilled,
Speaker 1: he is by far the raiders most skilled corner. It's
Speaker 1: not close as far as his movement. He could play outside, inside,
Speaker 1: in the slot. Uh. He's coming back off a ship though,
Speaker 1: and his movement skill is not men as as a
Speaker 1: parent as before. When you watched him before, he's just
Speaker 1: one of those special athletes that can move award and
Speaker 1: backwards in the back pedal and it looks like he's
Speaker 1: just just it's just easy. He's not really trying to
Speaker 1: move and he gets there. And he's got long arms
Speaker 1: and a very good covery guy. So in time commonly
Speaker 1: will be a prominent guy. He'll be an outside guy
Speaker 1: in the base, but the ability to jump inside of
Speaker 1: the nickel, he could even possibly be a matchup guy.
Speaker 1: The Raiders aren't do a lot of that, but they
Speaker 1: could do that with the elite wide receivers they would
Speaker 1: face throughout the course of the year. So I don't
Speaker 1: know how much of a role he would have. It's
Speaker 1: a chance he may play on Sunday's number twenty two. Uh,
Speaker 1: he may have a limited role, you know, in a
Speaker 1: sub package, but I think over time they got to
Speaker 1: get him up and going to match up with these
Speaker 1: great offenses in the sc what's a formula for the
Speaker 1: Jets to be in this game in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: dominate the game. At the front, Leonard Williams and the
Speaker 1: guy the Raiders were looking at. We had a report
Speaker 1: that he would need a shoulder surgery and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: wouldn't play, and then he played. He played great. Now
Speaker 1: we know him well from USC went right after a
Speaker 1: Mari in that draft. I love the front, you know,
Speaker 1: as I said it before, I'm a little confused by
Speaker 1: the line of Becker's art. More playmakers. Darren leaves the
Speaker 1: guy the readers are looking at it if they didn't
Speaker 1: draft Carl Joseph And he says so fast, but I
Speaker 1: think he has to learn the speed of the game
Speaker 1: still at this level. Uh, you know, I it's Josh
Speaker 1: has got to make player free football. We know Josh McConnell.
Speaker 1: He's a great guy, just a superhuman being. And he's
Speaker 1: not quite the athlete that he was when he was younger,
Speaker 1: but he's still very accurate, very smart. He knows what
Speaker 1: he's doing. Uh, you know, forced turnovers would be the
Speaker 1: way to do it, and you have Josh do his
Speaker 1: thing and then try to get the running game going.
Speaker 1: I was surprised they didn't run the ball better against
Speaker 1: the Bills, and then you know, conversely, they had a
Speaker 1: hard time with the run. But I think that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good run defense over time, and it may
Speaker 1: be a little bit easier to lock down to the
Speaker 1: guy like Mars Shawn. You know, he's gonna be rather
Speaker 1: than shady. He was a little shift here, so it's
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, just play air free football and
Speaker 1: try to steal a couple of possessions in the turnover
Speaker 1: game and that Jets could stay in the game. Greg,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. It's wonderful having not only yourself
Speaker 1: but another youracused guy on the show to back me
Speaker 1: up here a little bit on the Official Jets Podcast
Speaker 1: before we let you go real quick, we we have
Speaker 1: a favorite ask. We want you to remind Jets Nation
Speaker 1: because I don't know if they're familiar with your trademarks,
Speaker 1: saying only because we're not quite sure, Well, we don't
Speaker 1: think you're gonna be saying it on Sunday too much.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't typically do it because
Speaker 1: it's hard to h to recreate a touchdown call. I
Speaker 1: could after a lot, but because you're a Syracuse guy me,
Speaker 1: I was so. Because I love your guy, Chris Gargano,
Speaker 1: who has worked with us for years and Silver and
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Speaker 1: I will give you one brace for it. Jets fans,
Speaker 1: you may get I like your defense, but you may
Speaker 1: get four or five of these on Sunday and that
Speaker 1: would be oh man, that was tremendous. Thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Let's see you this week, and great
Speaker 1: job as always, you got it. Green's I gotta get
Speaker 1: on our producer Jack here, because he told me Greg
Speaker 1: pop his Twitter account was something that I was looking up.
Speaker 1: It might have been a fan account, because Greg Papa
Speaker 1: when I brought up that the Raiders defense was more
Speaker 1: talented than the Patriots defense, I saw that on his
Speaker 1: Twitter account. He said account slow your role e A.
Speaker 1: So maybe we have the wrong Twitter account. Hey, maybe
Speaker 1: it was a fan account. I guess that's kind of
Speaker 1: the uh. The question on Twitter is for anyone not
Speaker 1: even just him, is it? Who is it? That's why
Speaker 1: you got to look for the blue check in general. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there are some people don't have to verify. There
Speaker 1: are some people don't have blue checks. You don't have
Speaker 1: a blue check. Cham Pennington, our quarterback here in the
Speaker 1: Jets previ does not have a check. Though we should,
Speaker 1: we should, we should get Chad Pennington to have a
Speaker 1: blue check. We'll talk to him momentarily, Well, we'll talk
Speaker 1: to him. Well, we won't meagine the blue check. That'll
Speaker 1: be behind the scenes thing. Maybe next week we'll have one.
Speaker 1: But Twitter does have to update this. Dad Pennington does
Speaker 1: not have a blue check. Come on, and we need
Speaker 1: our producer Jack, who's doing a tremendous job. By the way,
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Speaker 1: get back from the West Coast, I might be a
Speaker 1: little fatigued. To be honest. I'll bring you up a
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Speaker 1: and myself bring you a different look. We're gonna try
Speaker 1: to get a lot of Jets alumni pertaining to this
Speaker 1: week we're getting we're actually getting someone from the black Hole.
Speaker 1: This week we're getting JT the Brick Radio. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: heard him on the radio multiple times. But week four
Speaker 1: quick teaser, Kevin Way being inducted in the in the
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor. We're gonna bring him on. So that's
Speaker 1: a little congratulations to Kevin Y because you just mentioned
Speaker 1: him He's actually on the list of modern day candidates
Speaker 1: for the Whole of Fame again this year, and the
Speaker 1: whittle down that list is the months go on, but
Speaker 1: the takes another step forward. We'll to see what happens.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we can get him in this year. That would
Speaker 1: be nice. It's just a matter of time before what
Speaker 1: goes in. All right, now that year The Official Jets
Speaker 1: Podcast breaks down. But like I said before, this is
Speaker 1: the game preview. Let's touch on a real quick. Greg
Speaker 1: Papa talked about different facets of the Raiders. Something that
Speaker 1: I kind of want to focus on is the Raiders
Speaker 1: secondary because he said they're evolving, and so for this
Speaker 1: Jets team to to have a successful day in the
Speaker 1: black Hole on Sunday, you would assume that they'd have
Speaker 1: to attack the secondary. Well, I think you just gotta
Speaker 1: have balance offensively. You but mentioned all a week that
Speaker 1: you'd like to see and improved run game, and so
Speaker 1: is so is the offensive line. Uh, Calvin Beach and
Speaker 1: we talked to him earlier in a week. They'd like
Speaker 1: to really control things up front. But Todd Bowls also
Speaker 1: said the Jets would like to be aggressive with their
Speaker 1: down the field pass and it Mays basically more short
Speaker 1: intermediate routes there against the Buffalo Bills as they tried
Speaker 1: to keep everything in front of them. The Raiders might
Speaker 1: try a similar approach. We have to see. But if
Speaker 1: the Jets can get something down the field that can
Speaker 1: open things up, maybe that's from a Robbie Anderson, um
Speaker 1: Jermaine Curse, like a guy like Will Tie, who is
Speaker 1: big and you wouldn't necessarily say he's a speedster, but
Speaker 1: he looked pretty good getting down the field. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: I like what I saw briefly out our Darius story.
Speaker 1: Another guy can make yards after the catch. I think
Speaker 1: it all goes together. I think the offense is going
Speaker 1: to be an evolution each and every week. And that's
Speaker 1: not just coach speak because there there's so many moving
Speaker 1: parts here, uh for the Jets, but I think they'll
Speaker 1: come out with a better effort in Oakland against the
Speaker 1: Raiders defense greens that at times has shown vulnerabilities. You
Speaker 1: mentioned the back end, and but the Jets need to
Speaker 1: keep him honest. You're gonna have to establish some sort
Speaker 1: of a running game as well. Something that you meagined
Speaker 1: that I just want to harp off on is the
Speaker 1: evolution of the offense and a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of fans may think that's
Speaker 1: kind of a cop out answer. It's really not. It's
Speaker 1: really not. And I just want to make this super
Speaker 1: clear because there are a lot of moving pieces. And
Speaker 1: when you start what O t A s back in April, March,
Speaker 1: whatever you start, then you start to build this chemistry
Speaker 1: and new offense. And then you bring people in a
Speaker 1: week before the regular season, not even a week before,
Speaker 1: and you expect him to play. That's ridiculous. This is
Speaker 1: the NFL. A lot goes on behind the scenes that
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know about. I just want
Speaker 1: to make that abundantly. Yeah, there's no excuses. They want
Speaker 1: to go out and perform. And you wrote about a
Speaker 1: Monday Josh McCown clearly stated the offense of output two
Speaker 1: U or fourteen yards for fourteen on third down at
Speaker 1: twelve points wasn't good enough. And they're gonna hold themselves
Speaker 1: to a higher standard and you're not gonna make excuses.
Speaker 1: But it does take time. That's why I'm saying that
Speaker 1: with each practice week, you would anticipate this offense coming together,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna take some time to find an identity
Speaker 1: to you know, Todd Bowles said about five games in,
Speaker 1: you'll know your identity. So right now the Jets are
Speaker 1: gonna be finding themselves. That doesn't mean they can't go
Speaker 1: into Oakland and win this game. They can. They gotta
Speaker 1: play excellent in all three phases. Special teams was off
Speaker 1: to a great start. I anticipate the defense to play better.
Speaker 1: Different kind of animal this week in the secondary, Uh
Speaker 1: is going to be in the spotlight against Derek Carr
Speaker 1: in company. Offensively, Uh, you know, let's see if the
Speaker 1: Jets can get moving and maybe get bell Oupo going
Speaker 1: a little bit, because I think he can create some
Speaker 1: mismatches with his speed out there. Green. So let's bring
Speaker 1: in our quarterback Chad Pennington from down in Kentucky this weekend.
Speaker 1: Chad Jets Oakland Raiders. What do you take away from
Speaker 1: that opening ball game, those Green and white the Bills
Speaker 1: that you think this team can build upon if your
Speaker 1: tie bowls and that coaching staff, well, there weren't any
Speaker 1: major disasters. Eric I thought the game against the Bills
Speaker 1: was played exactly like a Week one game that's supposed
Speaker 1: to be played. Both teams are trying to get a
Speaker 1: field for each other going into the fourth quarter a
Speaker 1: pipe ball game. Uh, both teams have made a couple
Speaker 1: of plays um right at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I think that the game turns when the jeff got
Speaker 1: with them four team of twelve and the defense of
Speaker 1: law the Bills to drive down the field of the
Speaker 1: twenty one up on the board and being answer the
Speaker 1: kids got a really good point return. They meant the
Speaker 1: great opportunity on first down to really get into the
Speaker 1: red zone, to get into scoring opportunity, and it kept
Speaker 1: the modest scoring opportunity, and those two situations I think
Speaker 1: was kind of the difference in the game where everything
Speaker 1: else is pretty much even, and that's all the ups
Speaker 1: in the NFL, where everything's pretty even, and you look
Speaker 1: at three or fourth plays that turns the scales one
Speaker 1: way or the other. And the scales were turned forward
Speaker 1: the build overall, what do you think of the offensive offer?
Speaker 1: It was John Morton's first time as NFL play caller
Speaker 1: and they're working in a lot of different pieces here.
Speaker 1: Jermaine Curse was acquired nine days before the seven catches
Speaker 1: will tie came and did some nice things. Nice things.
Speaker 1: He had three catches our Darius Stewart played in his
Speaker 1: first professional game, Chad Hanson getting some reps on the outside.
Speaker 1: You got new starters on that offensive line. Calvin Beecham
Speaker 1: at left tackle, Brandon Sallow finished last year those last
Speaker 1: four games. He's starting at right tackle on an opening
Speaker 1: day for the first time. Wesley Johnson starting at center
Speaker 1: for the first time. And with all that being said,
Speaker 1: it's the veteran quarterback with the first year offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: John Morton, who were trying to implement this offensive system
Speaker 1: with a lot of transition. Well positive things were no
Speaker 1: major disasters. Um also a lot of people involved in
Speaker 1: the production of the offense, both catching and running the football,
Speaker 1: which is a really good sign. I thought that a
Speaker 1: lot of multiplicity in formations and schemes, which was good.
Speaker 1: But the battle was lost up front. I felt like
Speaker 1: the Bill has dominated the line of scrimmage on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball on Sunday, and that was the
Speaker 1: difference in the game. Chad. Moving forward now, something that
Speaker 1: Eric alluded to is at all these moving parts and
Speaker 1: a new offense at a bunch of positions, And something
Speaker 1: that Joshua count said yesterday is that he really stressed
Speaker 1: the importance of practice because this playbook will open up
Speaker 1: with time. But being in that room during your days,
Speaker 1: can you just kind of give us a behind the
Speaker 1: scenes look for fans. I don't know what exactly goes
Speaker 1: into opening up a playbook and developing chemistry with a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys that really have played one game together. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a working prot there's no doubt about it. UM.
Speaker 1: Play the small victory is day by day and when
Speaker 1: you have a lot of moving parts, when you have
Speaker 1: new parts that are introduced into your system, both coach
Speaker 1: and player and I have to take advantage of every
Speaker 1: mental rep, physical up communication, conversation, every meeting, UM, and
Speaker 1: your notebook is your biggest your best friend, UH, taking
Speaker 1: notes and learning new players both from the coach and
Speaker 1: from a quarterback standpoint, talking with each other, really discussing
Speaker 1: the game of football. It cannot be a nine to
Speaker 1: five jobs. It has to be around the cop trying
Speaker 1: to make sure that you are making up for long time.
Speaker 1: And so that's that's the biggest challenge. I've been there before.
Speaker 1: And then you have to have some better in leadership
Speaker 1: to step up and just make place. UM. That's the
Speaker 1: bottom line in this league. Sometimes it's not about scheme,
Speaker 1: it's not about anything, but just somebody saying I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make the play, and you make the play. Turn the momentum.
Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing thing. When you get some moment momentum
Speaker 1: going in, your belief system changes and started believing in
Speaker 1: what you do. Those places that weren't working earlier start
Speaker 1: to work just because your belief system changed. You got
Speaker 1: a little moment and a little confidence. And that don't
Speaker 1: really start after a couple of players that made some
Speaker 1: play for you. What do you think about McCown overall?
Speaker 1: The Bills took away a lot of things down the field,
Speaker 1: the Jets said, so we saw basically a short to
Speaker 1: intermediate passing game completely sixty seven percent of his passes. UH.
Speaker 1: We mentioned the struggles on those early downs, so the
Speaker 1: Jets has finished four or fourteen on third downs, and
Speaker 1: then he lamented the turnovers because you never want to
Speaker 1: have picks. The one at the end was a different story,
Speaker 1: but in the first one he was blaming himself on
Speaker 1: that ball. But what do you think about his game overall?
Speaker 1: If he started UH an opening day UH contest for
Speaker 1: the fifth time in his career, chet well, he Uh,
Speaker 1: to most of the game. He did not put the
Speaker 1: Jets in in by situations, um. And he managed the
Speaker 1: game well, took what was given. Uh. It was obvious
Speaker 1: that the Bills are trying to keep everything in front
Speaker 1: of them. They weren't going to let Robby Anderson increase
Speaker 1: them down the field for any type of big plays.
Speaker 1: And it's going to have to be a methodical type
Speaker 1: of performance. And for the most point it was there
Speaker 1: just when there were time to make a couple of plays,
Speaker 1: whether the past a game or any game. Those plays
Speaker 1: were made to give yourself some breathing room as an offense. UM.
Speaker 1: And and that was the difference. And I thought the
Speaker 1: big difference was that the Jets did not control the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And I don't necessarily look at that
Speaker 1: rushing yards. When you're talking about controlling last scrimmage, you're
Speaker 1: looking at the movement of a line of scrimmage, you're
Speaker 1: looking at pass ross, you're looking at all these different things.
Speaker 1: And just from most part of the Bills controlled that.
Speaker 1: And so that's what made it a little bit more difficult.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, it's a big chance for he's
Speaker 1: working with the new system, new team, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of reps in seasons. That's no excuse,
Speaker 1: but it's reality, and so it's it's certainly work in progress.
Speaker 1: He's handled the situation well. Um. He he had a
Speaker 1: performance that allowed the Jets to be in a position
Speaker 1: to win. Uh, they just weren't able to capitalize. Well,
Speaker 1: what do the Jets need to do in Oakland to
Speaker 1: succeed against the defense that finished overall? But they still
Speaker 1: have a lot of talent up front in Bruce Irvin
Speaker 1: and Khalil Mack who was the defensive Player of the
Speaker 1: Year last year. Well, I think number one on the
Speaker 1: road in Oakland on the West Coast, the first quarter
Speaker 1: is really important, um, to make sure that Oakland doesn't
Speaker 1: get off to a great start and use the emotion
Speaker 1: of the crowd and the black hole. They're excited about
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders now and it's been a while since
Speaker 1: they've been in the mix of things, and with their
Speaker 1: car and some of the young pieces that they have,
Speaker 1: all editions that they've been able to add. They're tired
Speaker 1: about Raider football on the West Coast, and so that
Speaker 1: first quarter is really important. And then throughout the game,
Speaker 1: just being able to avoid the disaster to where you
Speaker 1: can be in the fourth quarter with the chance to win.
Speaker 1: That's going to be the key. Earlier on our preview podcast,
Speaker 1: we talked to Greg Papa and he talked at length
Speaker 1: about Oakland native Marshawn Lynch making a return here. This
Speaker 1: will be his first home game for the Raiders this weekend,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure it's gonna be an emotional scene at
Speaker 1: Oakland Alameda Colosseum. What do you think about the test
Speaker 1: now for the Jets secondary? Top Bowls said Jamal Adams
Speaker 1: had an outstanding debut and he also said Marcus May
Speaker 1: had a good ball game. In Week one, the corners
Speaker 1: weren't challenged that much on the outside. As you mentioned,
Speaker 1: the Bills did a lot of things what they wanted
Speaker 1: to do. They kind of dictated the battle. Where this
Speaker 1: is a different animal this week, where I imagine the
Speaker 1: secondary is gonna see a lot more action on the outside.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Um, you know, Oakland presents
Speaker 1: a completely different challenge In Buffalo. Buffalo was able to
Speaker 1: take their best players in Tyrod Taylor and McCoy, and
Speaker 1: those two players controlled the entire game. Um, now you're
Speaker 1: looking at an offense in Oakland and have multiple options
Speaker 1: on the perimeter in the passing game. Has a running
Speaker 1: back now that creates an attitude for the offense and
Speaker 1: his style of running speaking in Marshawn Lynch, and so
Speaker 1: this is a huge challenge for the defense um that
Speaker 1: they've got issues here as far as it's going to
Speaker 1: start with controlling the line of scrimmage. That they can
Speaker 1: control the line of scrimmage and be able to make
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch stop his feet in the hole and not
Speaker 1: get his momentum and steam rolling on heel. That's the
Speaker 1: key to the running game. Heard coach Bowls talk about
Speaker 1: gap control players playing their gap, not trying to overcompensate
Speaker 1: for another teammate not playing his gap and opening up
Speaker 1: gaping holes in the secondary. It's it's it's probably needs
Speaker 1: to be a little bit of Buffalo's types of mentality,
Speaker 1: where you like, we know you can pass the ball
Speaker 1: effectively and you've got some weapons out there, but you're
Speaker 1: not gonna get us on the big play. And so
Speaker 1: in the secondary, it's got to be able to eliminate
Speaker 1: the big play. Don't get discouraged with the short route.
Speaker 1: The short passes and completions. UM forced them to be
Speaker 1: patient and see if they can do that for four
Speaker 1: quarters with the with the shorter completions, not giving them
Speaker 1: the big play with the Cooper and crab Tree and
Speaker 1: the rest of the crew. What do you like, Moss
Speaker 1: about Derek Carr Well. I think he's starting to come
Speaker 1: into his own UM. He's talented. UM. He's been able
Speaker 1: to handle his career so far really well with his
Speaker 1: progression UM. And so far he hasn't put too much
Speaker 1: pressure on himself to do too much, try to stay
Speaker 1: with in what he's learning, how he's progressing. And I
Speaker 1: thought coming out of college he was one of those
Speaker 1: guys that I was ready to take that next step,
Speaker 1: even more than than some of the guys drafted before him. UM. So,
Speaker 1: and he's been able to rely on his brother's experiences too,
Speaker 1: which I think is healthy. He was around the Texas
Speaker 1: growing up around the game of football, watching his brother
Speaker 1: David um as he was going through that. So I
Speaker 1: think he's tried to rely on those experiences as well
Speaker 1: to make sure that he jumps over those pitfalls and
Speaker 1: shortcomings and try to keep it as smooth as possible.
Speaker 1: How did the Jets then go about limiting cars production
Speaker 1: on Sunday because you know he's gonna be slinging or
Speaker 1: slinging around. Well, I think you know, getting the ball
Speaker 1: of the Shane quickly is important um to where these
Speaker 1: these receivers can't pierce the defense vertically down the field
Speaker 1: with the big play opportunities. More time he's able to
Speaker 1: sit there and and allow the receivers to work down
Speaker 1: the field. That that really puts a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: on the secondary. So the pressure is one I think
Speaker 1: is important, and it's not necessarily sacked. It's just being
Speaker 1: able to make him uncomfortable, make him get off of
Speaker 1: his first read and move to the second one, because
Speaker 1: the pass rush, those types of things just as uncomfortable
Speaker 1: as they can make him. And really it's gonna have
Speaker 1: to start with just the front four first, because if
Speaker 1: you get into five and six months pass rushes, then
Speaker 1: you are now singling yourself up on the outside with
Speaker 1: your corners and safeties and things like that, which bodes
Speaker 1: well for their offense. So that ford Man pass rush
Speaker 1: is going to be important, and then anything off of
Speaker 1: that will be a bonus. And lastly, Chad, what are
Speaker 1: your favorite what is your favorite memory of the Oakland
Speaker 1: Alameda Coliseum. This could be the last time and the
Speaker 1: Jets play there. Well, yeah, I'll remember the early two
Speaker 1: thousands playing there on Monday Night football and then the
Speaker 1: playoffs games and and things like that with Rich Gannon
Speaker 1: and Charlie Garner, Tim Brown, Jerry Rode, Bill Romanowski, Charles Woodson,
Speaker 1: Trace Armstrong. I mean, they had some football playing dudes,
Speaker 1: and they had some really good teams. But I do
Speaker 1: remember in oh three when we were down out there
Speaker 1: and came back and got a great win. Uh. Really
Speaker 1: nice to be a part of. But those those the
Speaker 1: atmosphere van was exactly what you expect from the black Hole.
Speaker 1: And uh, I always said it reminds you of Holly
Speaker 1: winning every time he went out there. You see some
Speaker 1: tracy costumes and some funky looking people, but they love
Speaker 1: their football. Um that's I'm just excited. That's it. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm ready, Chad. Chad is always uh good catching up
Speaker 1: with you and uh good luck coaching down there. I
Speaker 1: know your latest game was rescheduled dude of rain, but
Speaker 1: you know, get those guys ready for the next ball game.
Speaker 1: You're still undefeated. What is the world coming to canceling
Speaker 1: ball games because the rain. I'm completely I've never heard
Speaker 1: of it. I'm an old guy though, just like you
Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Yet, all right, great stuff
Speaker 1: from Chad. Is always something that was mentioned before in
Speaker 1: the pod that I just want to bring up because
Speaker 1: I find it extremely interesting is that even though Khalil
Speaker 1: Mack the Raiders dominant defensive end, slash outside mind backer
Speaker 1: depending upon the package, whatever irrelevant he led, he was
Speaker 1: the defensive player of the year eleven sacks. However, the
Speaker 1: team that he plays for, the Raiders, finished last and
Speaker 1: sacked total. I just find that kind of amazing. And
Speaker 1: you know that he's gonna be a focal point of
Speaker 1: this offensive line and Bruce Servant because it's one of
Speaker 1: the most talented duos in the fell from a rush perspective. Now,
Speaker 1: you're right, and I don't think Mac had a second
Speaker 1: Week one and one of those grading services, maybe it's
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, Uh, don't quote me on that rated
Speaker 1: him as the top edge rusher for what he did
Speaker 1: in Week one that was without a sack. This guy
Speaker 1: is a dominant defender, but that doesn't mean the Raiders
Speaker 1: have a dominant defense. They're trying to find themselves again.
Speaker 1: The Raiders win with their offense and playing good defense.
Speaker 1: They liked what they did in opening week against Tennessee,
Speaker 1: did a decent job against a very good run offense
Speaker 1: in the Titans, holding on to sixteen points on the road. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see if the Jets can get more than sixteen points.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to. I don't have a number in mind,
Speaker 1: but when you look at the Raiders every week, it
Speaker 1: seems like they're in the high twenties, low thirties to
Speaker 1: the prolific attack. So the Jets have their work got
Speaker 1: out for them. But I anticipate a better effort than
Speaker 1: Week one. I really do. I think the defense will
Speaker 1: stick to the assignments. It's they'll be challenged at times. Though.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some times on the outside where you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna be stuck with a crab Tree, a
Speaker 1: Cooper or Roberts, a Cook, one of these guys and
Speaker 1: one on one and you've got to make some plays
Speaker 1: and turnovers would help. And you need special teams to
Speaker 1: stay on point like they were in Week one. And
Speaker 1: let's see what you can get out of the offense.
Speaker 1: Something that Bart Scott said on Inside the Jets, which
Speaker 1: really stuck with me is games like this where you
Speaker 1: know you have you work cut out for you. This
Speaker 1: is why you play the game of football. It is
Speaker 1: a competitive sport. The Jets will be ready, They're gonna
Speaker 1: they want to fix their mistakes from from last game.
Speaker 1: It's evident when you talk to these guys the message
Speaker 1: kind of the motif of the week per se. I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody be honest with you. I don't think
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys that you can pay attention to.
Speaker 1: I think means the same as what's for breakfast? Like
Speaker 1: it doesn't you know, it doesn't mean a lot to
Speaker 1: these guys. You know, Oh yeah, they have a game plan.
Speaker 1: They'll be confident in the game plan and they got
Speaker 1: to go out and execute it. And it's a it's
Speaker 1: a big time challenge and they have a healthier amount
Speaker 1: of respect for the Raiders. But like Todd Bowles was
Speaker 1: being asked about all the Raiders weapons and at some
Speaker 1: point he said, it really doesn't matter what they do.
Speaker 1: It's on us. If we do what we're supposed to do,
Speaker 1: they should be in the ballgame. And that's all we
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