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Speaker 6: have something you want to say before you leave? Think
Speaker 6: about it, think about it.
Speaker 4: Go Cowboys is fine?
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Speaker 1: Talking about.
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Speaker 5: Cowboys short week getting ready for the New York Football Giants.
Speaker 5: But before we get into the game, the owner has spoken.
Speaker 5: Jerry Jones has spoken this morning on the flagshift station,
Speaker 5: and the question was asked to one mister Jerry Darnell.
Speaker 5: I don't know that's the real name, Jerry Darnell Jones.
Speaker 5: Jerald Wayne Jones's right, Jered Wayne Jones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jared Wayne Wow.
Speaker 5: The question was asked to him about the future of
Speaker 5: Mike Michael John McCarthy from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh. He's still Michael.
Speaker 4: He's Michael from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5: One good game, one good game, don't get you out
Speaker 5: of Michael from Pittsburgh. You gotta put a couple of
Speaker 5: old together for me to get you back to freaking Mike.
Speaker 5: But Michael from Pittsburgh. He asked him about his job security,
Speaker 5: job future, and Jerry said that it's not off the
Speaker 5: question that Mike McCarthy comes back next year. It's not crazy,
Speaker 5: Jerry said, we got a lot of football left and uh.
Speaker 4: Huh, we know where our stand now with the way
Speaker 4: that this thing.
Speaker 5: The Cowboys got their first victory in five weeks against
Speaker 5: the Commanders, and we talked about it yesterday on the show. Kurt,
Speaker 5: the schedule going forward looks pretty favorable. Yeah, you got
Speaker 5: a Giant team that is in absolute disarrayable. Then you
Speaker 5: got a Cincinnati team coming after the mini by that
Speaker 5: you kind of have like really two really mini buys
Speaker 5: because you play Monday night football. So you got this
Speaker 5: weekend and then you got a full ten days before
Speaker 5: you have to play again.
Speaker 4: And we don't even know what they don't even know
Speaker 4: who the hell they are.
Speaker 5: They want to be good, they got good components, they
Speaker 5: got good pieces. They they every year we come into
Speaker 5: this thing and the Bengals are you know, Joe Burrow,
Speaker 5: they're they're they're the one team that can challenge the
Speaker 5: Chiefs and the AFC, but they have been a disappointing
Speaker 5: team this year. Then after that you have a team
Speaker 5: that's probably more disarrayed than the Giants, the Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 5: and then you probably this is a dangerous team to me,
Speaker 5: the Bucks. The Bucks can be a dangerous team. They
Speaker 5: run the football. They got two really good backs. I
Speaker 5: like both of their backs, Bucky Irvin and the other kids.
Speaker 1: Devastated.
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield, you know he's you know, he's Baker Mayfield
Speaker 5: could be a thorn in your side.
Speaker 4: You know, he could play some some good football.
Speaker 8: So it.
Speaker 4: If you're if.
Speaker 5: You're looking through this thing with optimism and optimistic shades on,
Speaker 5: you can say to yourself, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4: Stop all I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, and couple with could Mike actually come back
Speaker 5: and be the coach in twenty twenty five and be
Speaker 5: your will Kurt?
Speaker 7: I think given the roster that he was, yes, given
Speaker 7: roster he had, and then all the injuries that hit
Speaker 7: schedule he faced, if he could get this thing turned around,
Speaker 7: he'd have to be. You'd have to consider even if
Speaker 7: they don't make the playoffs, you'd have if they finished strong,
Speaker 7: win five of the last six something. You know, you
Speaker 7: know they got to go to Philly, that's a tough one.
Speaker 7: But if they you got at least considerate. Now, with
Speaker 7: that said, whether they actually do consider it, I don't know,
Speaker 7: because fan opinion will be definitely against him.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Michael, yes, Michael, yes, what
Speaker 6: Michael Jonathan, Michael hs, Michael whatever from Pittsburgh. Yes, he
Speaker 6: will be your coach in twenty twenty five and beyond.
Speaker 1: I ain't backing off of that.
Speaker 7: Come on you, why why why are you so passionate
Speaker 7: about it?
Speaker 6: Because he was the twelve and five guy. He has
Speaker 6: not fell off the rest you all of a sudden.
Speaker 6: Because your talent is starting to get older, and your
Speaker 6: talent is very young, needing experience, you're gonna have these
Speaker 6: type of years. Okay, it's a lot of young guns
Speaker 6: out there, and it's a lot of old heads out
Speaker 6: there waiting like vultures.
Speaker 1: They circling I see them every day, circling the facilities.
Speaker 1: But you cannot have this.
Speaker 6: Mike is gonna help rebuild this all, mister Jones, gotta
Speaker 6: do take a step back and let him just keep
Speaker 6: plugging away, keep plugging away, get rid of some of
Speaker 6: that over there that ain't about you.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got.
Speaker 6: To make a change, not for the coach's sake, but
Speaker 6: for your whole organizational sake. And it ain't the coach change.
Speaker 6: You need to get rid of some of that cancer
Speaker 6: you got over there. It's some cancer over there and
Speaker 6: it needs to be got out.
Speaker 1: Dug out.
Speaker 4: Bro Okay, Yeah, listen, when you sit in this seat,
Speaker 4: I can be. I can.
Speaker 1: I can what you want to be.
Speaker 4: I can ride the fence. Can I can put it.
Speaker 1: Hear me out.
Speaker 5: Hear me not just not our just hear me out.
Speaker 5: Hear me out. A part of me says you're done.
Speaker 5: A part of me says you're done.
Speaker 1: You're done.
Speaker 5: This is not And to what you were saying, Kurt is,
Speaker 5: the fans have been calling for the and I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know if everyone in that locker room is
Speaker 5: still a.
Speaker 4: Fan of Michael McCarthy.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: And I know people are saying, well, the guys aren't quitting. No no, no,
Speaker 4: no no.
Speaker 5: But I want you to remember, thirty something of these
Speaker 5: guys need new deals.
Speaker 4: So it ain't it.
Speaker 5: Ain't quitting on Mike is I gotta go out here
Speaker 5: and play hard for me. And when you continually hear
Speaker 5: the same thing over and over and over and over
Speaker 5: and over again each week about how things aren't being
Speaker 5: responded to, especially offensively, when you're supposed to be the
Speaker 5: offensive guru.
Speaker 4: I think that's a major knock against you.
Speaker 5: And I don't see I don't see a future with
Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy being a head coach where he's not calling
Speaker 5: plays now. On the flip side, I also look at it,
Speaker 5: and I say, Adam Sheffer said the other day that
Speaker 5: there could possibly be seven to eight head coaching jobs
Speaker 5: available when this season is all set and done, when
Speaker 5: Jerry sits back and he looks at it, because we can,
Speaker 5: we us the people that feel us, we can have
Speaker 5: whatever hope and dream of a coach that we want,
Speaker 5: whether it's Bobby Slowick, whether it's Ben Johnson, whether some
Speaker 5: of you want Bill Belichick, some say Brian fla Lores,
Speaker 5: whether it's one of the new young guns, whether it's
Speaker 5: an old a retread and Bill Belichick or John Gruden
Speaker 5: or Vai Bowl or Rex Ryan or help Pete Carroll's
Speaker 5: name has been back out there and circulating around in
Speaker 5: some coaching spaces. Whatever side of the coaching ledger you
Speaker 5: sit on, there has to be two parts to that.
Speaker 5: There has to be an interest by the team and
Speaker 5: also by those coaches, because who's to say Ben Johnson
Speaker 5: even leave Detroit. He may get out there, look at
Speaker 5: the landscape and go and now pay is not really
Speaker 5: what I wanted.
Speaker 4: Situations not really what I wanted.
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna go back to Detroit and re up
Speaker 5: over there for a little while because.
Speaker 4: I know that I have a quarterback or line.
Speaker 5: Or run game or receivers, all those things right, because
Speaker 5: sometimes people don't. I'm not gonna just leaving jump to
Speaker 5: a head coaching job where I don't have the support
Speaker 5: that I need. And so now you're looking at that,
Speaker 5: and so Jerry maybe come to a place in time.
Speaker 5: He looks around and he goes, well, I'm not getting
Speaker 5: the young coaches that I wanted. Remember Chang Gayly, And
Speaker 5: I'm not getting the right retread that I want. Sometimes
Speaker 5: you have to sit up there and say I'm going
Speaker 5: to dance with the girl that I brought to the party,
Speaker 5: and that safe.
Speaker 1: Dance, remember Chang Gayleen.
Speaker 5: As as as the young people say that in house,
Speaker 5: booty might be the thing you just need to go
Speaker 5: back home to.
Speaker 4: And because you know it.
Speaker 5: You could go out, you could go out there in
Speaker 5: these streets and try to find something new and it
Speaker 5: might not be hitting the.
Speaker 6: Same getting on your knee, please please for him and
Speaker 6: mister Jones, remember Chang Gayly, What do you mean by that?
Speaker 6: Chang Gayly was the coach that the fans and everybody
Speaker 6: wanted going as soon as he was gone. Two weeks later,
Speaker 6: Miss Jones say, man, I don't know if I did
Speaker 6: the right thing. That's why Jason got not one, not twice,
Speaker 6: but by three chances.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to do the Chan Gaily. Don't do
Speaker 1: the Chang Gayley, coach, don't do the Chang Gayly.
Speaker 7: Are we certing with all those job openings that Mike
Speaker 7: McCarthy will want to come back here?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a good point.
Speaker 6: Coach knows as bread as butter baby.
Speaker 4: That's a good point.
Speaker 6: You know, deep down inside that Jesse, that part that
Speaker 6: wants him back is just fighting to it emerged. Yes, sir, Jesse,
Speaker 6: is that with the without it that you.
Speaker 4: Know what's.
Speaker 5: Gonna be without us. But that's a great that's a
Speaker 5: great point. Like does Mike want to come back? Yes,
Speaker 5: he does because he now understands he It's one thing
Speaker 5: when you're standing on the outside. Now when you're inside
Speaker 5: the vortex, it looks a little different.
Speaker 1: It feels a little different.
Speaker 4: And now who knows.
Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy cauld be like, you know what, I can't
Speaker 5: wait till this deal is up. I hope he doesn't
Speaker 5: offer me a new deal because maybe this decision of
Speaker 5: being in this, you know, the owners telling my game
Speaker 5: plan on a Tuesday. I'm trying to game plan for
Speaker 5: a Thursday. I'm trying to keep things under the wrap.
Speaker 5: He telling folks who're gonna be injured and who's not
Speaker 5: gonna be injured. You know, I gotta deal with players.
Speaker 5: I don't really want to round the organization talking about
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that player.
Speaker 4: But the owner got.
Speaker 5: His guys and he gonna push those that agenda with
Speaker 5: those guys.
Speaker 4: You know, maybe he says that maybe maybe maybe he don't.
Speaker 7: He might look pretty attractive. He can turn around this
Speaker 7: team banged up in Kurt go on a streak at
Speaker 7: the end, they might look pretty truck hurt.
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, percentages of my man freaking Mike being back,
Speaker 6: give me the percentages of you feel right now be true? Hundred, yes, sir,
Speaker 6: out of one hundred. You know, it's only one way,
Speaker 6: one till hundred.
Speaker 1: Baby, in the end of.
Speaker 4: What's your percent?
Speaker 1: Eighty nine percent?
Speaker 6: Nine baby, eighty nine, that's ninety percent because you.
Speaker 1: But you like seeing back. That's all I need to know.
Speaker 1: How about you, Jesse.
Speaker 9: I'm I'm look you you twenty five percent that he'll
Speaker 9: be back, that he'll be back twenty five Man.
Speaker 6: I don't know how do I side this campaign? Because
Speaker 6: it ain't like free Mike, Because if free mikey out
Speaker 6: of here, Keep Mike, keep back.
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Speaker 5: When we come back. The Cowboys haven't fared too well
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Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 5: What is it about being at the crib that has
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Speaker 5: Was it three thirty kurk Kurt three thirty three thirty.
Speaker 4: The annual Thanksgiving game.
Speaker 5: And I know a lot of people had hopes at
Speaker 5: this game when it came out on the schedule, like, okay,
Speaker 5: you know Cowboys Giants, Giants, Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Kind of a good rivalry between the two.
Speaker 5: And then the bottom fell out of everything, right, they
Speaker 5: sent their team and their quarterback away. The Cowboys had
Speaker 5: all the injuries and their quarterbacks sent.
Speaker 4: Away, and so now we're faced with this.
Speaker 5: Game, this game, and a report came out today that
Speaker 5: Tommy DeVito has a four arm injury, and Brian Daball
Speaker 5: said not one hundred percent chance that he actually plays
Speaker 5: in this game. Now, I personally would prefer that he does,
Speaker 5: because the alternative is you get a pissed off Drew
Speaker 5: Lock And if I had to say who are the
Speaker 5: better of the two quarterbacks, I would say Drew Lock
Speaker 5: is the better of the two. And then you get
Speaker 5: Drew Locke with kind of an fit attitude, and you
Speaker 5: get Melik Neighbors, who publicly called out his team and
Speaker 5: his coaches called him soft.
Speaker 4: He said he's not getting the ball enough.
Speaker 5: Y'all know what that means, right. You know what happens
Speaker 5: after that? He gets targeted fifty five times the next game.
Speaker 5: And Milika is the one of the Mylik Neighbors is
Speaker 5: one of those guys you know, in the last in
Speaker 5: Chris Timmins before I came in here, the last one
Speaker 5: hundred yard game that Malik Neighbors had. Let me take
Speaker 5: it back, the only I think, right, Chris, the only
Speaker 5: hundred yard game Malik Davis only one hundred yard game
Speaker 5: that he's.
Speaker 4: Had this season. Boys, you just like your Mike McCarthy
Speaker 4: take give me wrong. It was against the Cowboys and
Speaker 4: he knocked this out out the game.
Speaker 1: I'm not wrong.
Speaker 5: He knocked itself out in the third or fourth quarter
Speaker 5: of that game, and they were trying to make a
Speaker 5: little bit of a comeback. But normally the Thanksgiving game
Speaker 5: is at home, and you feel confident about it, and
Speaker 5: you say, man, cowboy at home.
Speaker 4: And this is this dating back to last playoffs. Cowboys
Speaker 4: are oh.
Speaker 5: And six at home, no matter and every twenty and
Speaker 5: everything that was an NFL record. What has to change, Nate,
Speaker 5: for the Cowboys to get off the snide and get
Speaker 5: a dub at home again?
Speaker 4: Is it just simply the Giants.
Speaker 6: Simply eximptly thirty two carries one hundred and twenty nine
Speaker 6: yards thirty two thirty two carriers. I went back into
Speaker 6: last three losses, they've given up or at least thirty
Speaker 6: two carries one hundred and twenty something yards four point fourevers.
Speaker 1: Go back and look up the last three games.
Speaker 4: No, they're giving up one hundred and fifty yards again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so on the ground defensive, Yeah, it ain't got
Speaker 6: nothing to do with time possession. This week he has
Speaker 6: got something to do with carriers because this team feeds
Speaker 6: off of sacks. I think they have like thirty something sacks,
Speaker 6: but in the last three game they only have they
Speaker 6: only have one sack, and that's by Brian Burns.
Speaker 7: We need thirty two carries a game.
Speaker 1: We need thirty two carres. Then we got twenty eight.
Speaker 6: We got twenty eight last week, but before that it
Speaker 6: was twenty one. I'm telling you, man, as a team,
Speaker 6: as a team, the thing that is amazing here, we
Speaker 6: can't go sideways. But you know, I know, you know
Speaker 6: we'll I'll say the same thing again tomorrow. Number ninety seven.
Speaker 6: I don't need him for him to focus in on
Speaker 6: our center. I see ninety seven.
Speaker 5: You're talking about the All World defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence
Speaker 5: for the New York Times.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's got nine sacks, but nothing these last
Speaker 6: three games. You know, the last time was four games
Speaker 6: go against Pittsburgh where they had three or four sacks,
Speaker 6: then all of a sudden they just went that went away.
Speaker 6: So this team is mentally and it is mentally messed
Speaker 6: up right now. I mean because you got too much
Speaker 6: focus on the wrong thing. And that's who's not on
Speaker 6: the team. You know they worrying about. Okay, if you
Speaker 6: do this too, the quarterback, you gave forty million dollars,
Speaker 6: what would you do to us? So as a player,
Speaker 6: you sitting there like, man, what do I do I
Speaker 6: mean you can, you can.
Speaker 1: Literally freelance if you're a defensive player. What you what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do to me?
Speaker 6: What you're gonna do to me, especially if you're Dexter,
Speaker 6: you know, or either Brian Burns or Numbers, the other
Speaker 6: guy they brought in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what you're gonna do to me?
Speaker 6: I mean you just got got rid of the most
Speaker 6: valuable asset.
Speaker 7: Nothing cowboys just run outside or right at them or what.
Speaker 1: They need to scheme against them.
Speaker 6: We are not We're not what other I looked at
Speaker 6: a little bit of Panthers in the offensive line has
Speaker 6: gotten much better than six seven games ago. They can
Speaker 6: physically one on one move people now the Panthers, so
Speaker 6: we I know what we did last week, but I
Speaker 6: think we need to add a little bit of scheming
Speaker 6: in there, maybe a little bit of traps a little
Speaker 6: bit and be more secure on the deuce blocks. I'd
Speaker 6: rather for the linebackers to make the plays than they
Speaker 6: down Lima because when when down Lima started making plays,
Speaker 6: it's over.
Speaker 5: Kurt, I don't know the last time, and you can
Speaker 5: check on whatever site that you use for tickets, I
Speaker 5: don't know the last time we've been able to look
Speaker 5: at a ticket price for a Cowboys game and a get.
Speaker 4: It not not standing room.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there are a get in the door seats, Yes,
Speaker 5: available for twenty eight bucks.
Speaker 7: Yes, twenty eight bucks.
Speaker 5: There are seats and the last home game that you
Speaker 5: saw who was at Houston?
Speaker 4: A lot of empty seats, a lot of empty seats, and.
Speaker 7: Does the victim room for twenty five? You can get
Speaker 7: up or deck for fifty five or so?
Speaker 5: Man, I don't know the last time you've seen up
Speaker 5: a deck for fifty five like you can get I
Speaker 5: think I think I looked at somewhere that you can
Speaker 5: get like lower level fifty yard line tickets for like
Speaker 5: three hundred bucks. Those usually go for like double that,
Speaker 5: maybe triple ad sometimes depending on what the record is.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can get three level.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I say that to say this, Kurt. It's
Speaker 5: the holiday. Folks have to make a decision. Do I
Speaker 5: spend money on tickets? Do I spend money on parking?
Speaker 5: Do I spend money at the stadium? Do I spend
Speaker 5: time away from my family to go to the game.
Speaker 5: I don't know tickets available right Like, this is the
Speaker 5: Cowboys looking for a home feel advantage. How do you
Speaker 5: get a home feel advantage, you have the fans behind you?
Speaker 5: Do you have a contingency of fans that are rallying you,
Speaker 5: giving you energy, making noise when the science has make noise.
Speaker 5: Michael Rvis says, good hello, And now you're so third down?
Speaker 4: Are you get them to jump off side? And what
Speaker 4: have your delay at games?
Speaker 5: What do the Cowboys find that home feel advantage in
Speaker 5: the stands this week?
Speaker 7: I don't know, madam, or you hope there won't be
Speaker 7: as many Giants fans. I guess surely some of these
Speaker 7: seats will fill up. But that's what I've wondered.
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 7: Is it the home field problems just who you've played.
Speaker 7: They've played some really good teams at home? Or is
Speaker 7: there more to it?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 7: Yes, there's much more distraction and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: Your players have to be better than the other players.
Speaker 6: The schemes have to be equal to the other team's schemes,
Speaker 6: because if you got the better players, that's the normally
Speaker 6: who win schemes. Are all schemes are equal, the better
Speaker 6: players normally can take over. I found out going through
Speaker 6: this one in fifteen three and thirteen when our players
Speaker 6: got better and we started winning games, that home field
Speaker 6: got bigger and better and stronger.
Speaker 7: Isn't there? I mean, you guys have both talked about it.
Speaker 7: You'd bring a whole bustload of people to Thanksgiving? I mean, yes,
Speaker 7: aren't there? Do the outside distractions really affect these guys
Speaker 7: or at this point there, if you reach the NFL,
Speaker 7: you can handle that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: Listen, we're talking about the rabbity is of alf rabbitys
Speaker 5: and players nowadays they hear everything.
Speaker 4: They're right, so like, yes, affects him because we we
Speaker 4: we we we hear it.
Speaker 5: We hear those guys react to what has been said
Speaker 5: on the outside. And I've always long said this, People go, well,
Speaker 5: we just block out the outside noise.
Speaker 4: You're a liar.
Speaker 1: Block out the outside whoever said?
Speaker 4: But winning helps you do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he helps you do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But when you're losing, every those rabbit ears shoot
Speaker 5: up and everybody listening to everything, and so go ahead.
Speaker 6: Every player today, especially today's player, have at least five
Speaker 6: sets of ears.
Speaker 1: I'm here. Every player has it. You can see it
Speaker 1: after the games. We do shows.
Speaker 6: At the game, you have four or five people following
Speaker 6: a lot of players at least thirty center of the player.
Speaker 5: I mean we got we're not too many weeks off
Speaker 5: to Trayvon Diggs.
Speaker 4: Right, he's still in full uniform. Right, he's still in
Speaker 4: full uniform. He goes in the locker room, coming.
Speaker 1: Right back out.
Speaker 4: He wasn't even over the sweat.
Speaker 1: Yes, but go ahead when it is just what Jesse
Speaker 1: just saying. Give us.
Speaker 6: In those five years, got five most set seals because
Speaker 6: they know a player and know, hey, I got a
Speaker 6: I got a partner that knows Trayvon did.
Speaker 1: I got a partner.
Speaker 6: So you got five sets ears on five sets. Man,
Speaker 6: these kids ain't gonna never get a break. You know,
Speaker 6: I heard the other day Lebron say I'm turning I'm
Speaker 6: turning off social media. You even if you tried your
Speaker 6: sonsay Dad, I know what you said, but you guess what.
Speaker 4: It's just it's the world.
Speaker 1: It's the ward of these kids.
Speaker 6: But when you winning, man, I'm telling you, if they
Speaker 6: were winning, Trayvon probably still went out to that dude
Speaker 6: and said, man, come on, now we can do this
Speaker 6: a little bit better.
Speaker 1: His whole attitude, we can do this.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like how we are on this show.
Speaker 5: It's like when we were winning number one, we don't
Speaker 5: really care what those other shows got it. They want
Speaker 5: to make jokes and then you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 5: the boss wants to threaten us with numbers and all
Speaker 5: that kind.
Speaker 4: We don't listen to all that. We don't really listen
Speaker 4: to all.
Speaker 5: That because we know when we winning, it don't really
Speaker 5: matter what y'all said about it.
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm mid live. Women love these numbers.
Speaker 5: A don't, Yes, these numbers don't. But what has to change, Nate?
Speaker 5: What has to change offensively? What has to change defensively?
Speaker 5: What has to change special teams?
Speaker 4: Wise?
Speaker 5: At home, because this is where you're supposed to be.
Speaker 5: You know, you at you at your cribs, your locker room,
Speaker 5: you'll feel you know, you know what a dead basketball term.
Speaker 5: I know where the dead spots are at in the floor,
Speaker 5: right like I know, nobody knows whether where the sun
Speaker 5: comes in at that and we're not gonna go there.
Speaker 5: Nobody knows when that's gonna come and rise and fall.
Speaker 5: But this is home, This is the crib. This is
Speaker 5: where you're supposed to be at your best. The Cowboys
Speaker 5: are four and two on the road, but they're zero
Speaker 5: and five at home.
Speaker 4: What has to change.
Speaker 7: We got a question through our email from a fan.
Speaker 7: At first I kind of thought that's kind of dumb,
Speaker 7: But then I part of me is like, well, maybe
Speaker 7: not so much. I mean, should they go over there
Speaker 7: at four point thirty eight afternoon and have a practice
Speaker 7: at the stadium when the sun shining in and it's
Speaker 7: all that kind of stuff, just to get a feel
Speaker 7: for it.
Speaker 6: You do whatever gives you advantage. I remember when mister
Speaker 6: Jones first built this stadium. Uh, Jimmy said, Wow, this
Speaker 6: could be the biggest home field advantage.
Speaker 1: I will practice over there, That's what Jimmy said. I would.
Speaker 6: I would just move a whole kitten kaboodle so they'll
Speaker 6: know every crook and cranny, whatever's going on at whatever
Speaker 6: time you where, you can create that home fell advantage.
Speaker 6: But I will say this and continue to say this,
Speaker 6: if these players can learn from this year, or learned
Speaker 6: by the end of the year, these five or six
Speaker 6: games and just start rolling. When people with these fans
Speaker 6: are forgiving fans, I mean you started showing signs of winning.
Speaker 1: They will be back now that the draft.
Speaker 6: The drafters, I call them the drafters, people that live
Speaker 6: for the draft.
Speaker 1: Those people. That's just who they are.
Speaker 6: That tank yeah, yeah, yeah, the tank yeah, the tank community.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm gonna use that.
Speaker 6: The tank community is who they are. And so watch
Speaker 6: the draft show. They have it three hundred and sixty
Speaker 6: players for you to look at each one every day.
Speaker 6: But these fans want to win. Now, they can get
Speaker 6: mad about the playoffs. But if we right now, well
Speaker 6: seven and whatever, eight and whatever, all we'll be talking
Speaker 6: about this positioning for the playoffs. Yea, for them, very
Speaker 6: same playoffs that we fear.
Speaker 7: Going back to what you said, though, I mean, we
Speaker 7: don't can't change the sun or whatever. We can't change. Yeah,
Speaker 7: we can't change the distractions. We can't. So how do
Speaker 7: they change the offense or or do you know?
Speaker 5: I think it's a great question that whoever wrote that
Speaker 5: in we appreciate the question.
Speaker 4: I think it's a great question.
Speaker 5: And not to bring up, you know, Bill Belichick and
Speaker 5: the Patriots, but to bring up Bill Belichick and the
Speaker 5: Patriots Bill practice like that, Like Bill was like, well,
Speaker 5: it's pouring rain in outsides, let's go inside, and we
Speaker 5: having good practice. We ain't playing inside, so you have
Speaker 5: to fight through these elements, right, Well, it's really windy outside.
Speaker 5: We can't get what if it's windy on Sunday, what
Speaker 5: you gonna say, Hey, hey, Rev, can we go inside
Speaker 5: to kick this kick, this extra point kick, this forty
Speaker 5: yard field goal? And so sometimes to Jimmy's point, to
Speaker 5: the to the caller's point, that may have to be
Speaker 5: something that may have to be that may have to be.
Speaker 4: You know what, Let's go over there and see when.
Speaker 5: This sun is, like Jerry says, you know, one hundred
Speaker 5: years in advance, when the sun's gonna be rising and falling.
Speaker 5: You know, maybe going over there and realizing, okay, hey,
Speaker 5: at this time, if we're going this way, what are
Speaker 5: some things that we can run that will probably keep
Speaker 5: the side of our eyes. Like That's how you get
Speaker 5: a competitive advantage. It's those small things that you know,
Speaker 5: we we a lot of times see or or hear
Speaker 5: a Bill Belichick saying, you know, you know what, scratch
Speaker 5: what we had on a practice playing we got we
Speaker 5: got a three o'clock game, and that sun might be
Speaker 5: setting right there in that time were our practice schedule.
Speaker 5: Now we'll meet that and we'll go over there and
Speaker 5: see if we can't figure this thing out and throw
Speaker 5: passes into the sun and see how that affects guys.
Speaker 5: You want a competitive advantage, you have to think in
Speaker 5: a competitive advantage type of way. And so I think
Speaker 5: it's a great question. Will they do it?
Speaker 4: Probably not, But that's.
Speaker 5: The difference between a guy who got one Super Bowl
Speaker 5: and the guy who got seven.
Speaker 4: Well, you know.
Speaker 5: Whatever, it is, all right, man, Let's I got a
Speaker 5: final break of the show. When we come back, we'll
Speaker 5: talk more about the offensive line. Some guys are out,
Speaker 5: some guys play, well, should we keep it that way?
Speaker 5: Where are we looking at this offensive line going forward?
Speaker 5: We got we got a six time Pro bowler on
Speaker 5: over here, three times Super Bowl champion. He can give
Speaker 5: us some more insight on that offensive line play for
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Speaker 5: pump eight though, Nick Yes, Sir. Tyler Smith out last week,
Speaker 5: Zach Martin out last week. TJ Bass, brock Hoffman came in.
Speaker 5: Didn't play too bad, didn't play ain't too bad. I
Speaker 5: like the I thought t J Bass played better out
Speaker 5: of the two. I like the aggressiveness and the attitude
Speaker 5: and the nastiness.
Speaker 4: You gotta have a little nasty. You gotta have a
Speaker 4: little nasty to play in the trenches.
Speaker 5: That's part of the That's probably a little bit of
Speaker 5: if I got a little bit of a thing towards.
Speaker 4: He needs to give something the guidance.
Speaker 5: I just don't feel like I am and I don't
Speaker 5: want to pile on the kid.
Speaker 4: I just don't feel like.
Speaker 5: He'll bite your face off like I think brock Hoffman
Speaker 5: will bite your face off. I don't think like our
Speaker 5: tackles seem like they say please and thank you too much.
Speaker 5: I don't like. I don't want my tackles to be polite,
Speaker 5: to have manners. I don't want that. I want the
Speaker 5: offensive line to be snarling, gnarling, rude, dip spin and cussing, finish,
Speaker 5: eye gouging, finish, you know what I'm saying, testic twisting
Speaker 5: at the bottom of the pile.
Speaker 4: Wow, like I want that. I want finish.
Speaker 5: I just feel like, you know, guidance like hey, I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: bro prologize like I don't want you to apologizing, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 5: Terry still at times is like, oh.
Speaker 4: Man, excuse me. We'll say, excuse me, don't hold it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't want my tackles hold adult for nobody.
Speaker 8: They don't.
Speaker 5: You should have hurried up, broke at the door, you damnself.
Speaker 5: I need that I need I need that from my tackles.
Speaker 5: I need them with a little bit of an edge
Speaker 5: like brock Hoffman looked like he eat with his hands.
Speaker 5: He looked like he eats Millievy time meals every day.
Speaker 7: So would you rather have a guy like that with
Speaker 7: if the talent is I mean it's not a huge
Speaker 7: drop off, but if there's a little less talent but
Speaker 7: more dog in him, that you'd rather have that plan
Speaker 7: still talent.
Speaker 4: Any any day? That ended? Why and twice on Sunday?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just I'm a receiver. I'm the diva
Speaker 5: of the group. I'm the diva of the group.
Speaker 4: But Nate Tyler Smith maybe coming back this week.
Speaker 5: Zach Martin Stevens kind of all but said that he'll
Speaker 5: probably miss this week as well.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 4: My question to you is how much?
Speaker 5: Because you're looking for the future and we all kind
Speaker 5: of believe, if we're doing the percentile, I'm almost at
Speaker 5: ninety percent that Zach Martin's gonna retire. Do you try
Speaker 5: to hold out Zach Martin as long as you possibly
Speaker 5: can to give one of these other guys, whether it's TJ. Bass,
Speaker 5: whether it's brock Hoffman, more opportunities at those spots to say, hey,
Speaker 5: you guys got four games to show me what you're
Speaker 5: gonna do.
Speaker 4: In the future.
Speaker 1: I'm as long as.
Speaker 6: Zach is hurt, as long as once he say I'm
Speaker 6: not hurting, then he goes back in.
Speaker 1: You know, That's where I agree with you. Four weeks ago.
Speaker 6: If he's not hurting and he you know, just injured,
Speaker 6: just you know, you know, injury is just injured.
Speaker 1: Little Nick.
Speaker 6: I'll play him because he average, he's better than most.
Speaker 6: But if he's hurting with these injuries, no, he let
Speaker 6: the TJ Bass in there and let him play Smith.
Speaker 6: He should be okay. He young guys still move. Got
Speaker 6: what's the word I'm looking for. He's able to move
Speaker 6: well with some consistency. You put him back in there.
Speaker 6: That only gives you a better strength, you know, in
Speaker 6: the middle of your offense. And I'm with you. Give
Speaker 6: me a little less talented guy, but with a whole
Speaker 6: lot of nastiness. That's gonna your goal as offensive lineman
Speaker 6: when you were playing an athlete that is better than you.
Speaker 6: This is what we used to bank. I had on
Speaker 6: that I know where the play is going, I know
Speaker 6: what the snap count is. You don't know when I'm
Speaker 6: gonna get help and when you know and when I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna get help. So all of this is to
Speaker 6: my advantage. Now I have to finish you. When I
Speaker 6: play against Jerome Brown, I used to go home and
Speaker 6: go to bed after those games. I used to go
Speaker 6: home and go to bed. Some guys I would go
Speaker 6: out and drink.
Speaker 4: Get you know you in a fight. Yes, you know
Speaker 4: you've been in the dull fight. You just go home
Speaker 4: and go to bed.
Speaker 5: Man Brown, I'm going to lay down.
Speaker 6: That's not only mentally but physically. They're gonna tax you
Speaker 6: because you have to play. If you have seventy eight plays,
Speaker 6: you got to play seventy seventy nine of them hard.
Speaker 6: You got because you don't know. He is such a
Speaker 6: great talent. You didn't know when he was gonna turn
Speaker 6: it on, and it took everything you had to keep
Speaker 6: him off your quarter your running back when he turned
Speaker 6: it on. And that can be any time in the game.
Speaker 6: Because he was such a great athlete. This kid, Dexter
Speaker 6: has that same ability. If he turns it on, he
Speaker 6: can set you back on the quarterback of running back
Speaker 6: four or five players a game, So you have to
Speaker 6: continuously be That's where our brock Hosmon would get in
Speaker 6: his head, like if you go back and look at
Speaker 6: the Tampa film, you will see the right guard I
Speaker 6: think in the center. They just stayed antagonizing him, and
Speaker 6: he stopped looking at the running back. He stopped thinking
Speaker 6: about it, and he just stopped trying to bend them up.
Speaker 6: If I can get you to bend me up sixty
Speaker 6: eight plays, I have won. That's the deal. That's what
Speaker 6: brock Hofflin does. He makes players forget about their assignment
Speaker 6: and just say, I'm gonna beat this dude to death.
Speaker 6: Before you know it, the game over with. You ain't
Speaker 6: made no tackles, you ain't got no sacks, and that
Speaker 6: is the key.
Speaker 1: So that is what the antagonizer do. You But.
Speaker 6: If this guy lock into your game and don't play
Speaker 6: your game, you're not athlete. You're not athletic inclined enough
Speaker 6: to stay with him. And if you concentrate on his techniques,
Speaker 6: you can have a long.
Speaker 5: Day looking at the left tackle of awesome Richards will
Speaker 5: be out this week with an ankle in theer. Yeah
Speaker 5: he has a high ago springs. Wow, he has a
Speaker 5: high eagle spring So awesome Richards. Scratch him off your list.
Speaker 5: And so it seems like you're options.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: I guess you have a couple. You you you have
Speaker 5: a couple that you can kind of play with. Uh,
Speaker 5: you can go Tuma. You can say you can say, hey,
Speaker 5: Tyler Smith, you're coming back and we're gonna go TJ.
Speaker 4: Bass and rock Hoff at the guards again, or.
Speaker 5: You look at young kid in the face and you go,
Speaker 5: all right, now, I got we got to put you
Speaker 5: back out there. Don't make me pull you off the field.
Speaker 5: And that's and that's that's Tyler Geyton.
Speaker 1: He's going out there, bro, every game.
Speaker 6: He's gonna start every game, every and that he said
Speaker 6: he's healthy, he's gonna start.
Speaker 4: Tell me this, So tell me this Nate mentally?
Speaker 5: What is he going through when he knows that if
Speaker 5: I mess up, I may come out the game, they
Speaker 5: may pull me. Like, how does that? How was that
Speaker 5: mess with you as a player, Jesse.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I'm gonna be straight on.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I've never been that guy, and thank god, I don't
Speaker 6: know what he's going through. I don't have that fear
Speaker 6: that somebody, you know, if it's preseason, they take you out.
Speaker 1: You okay, all right? You know we changing players.
Speaker 6: See, I ain't never been that guy, and I thank
Speaker 6: god ain't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what he's going through.
Speaker 1: I wish I could help.
Speaker 7: He's kind to mess with their mental.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: I'll ask Church because I think once Church took the
Speaker 6: starting job at at safety. He was the man, and
Speaker 6: then when he got snatched out, it was like for
Speaker 6: twenty million a year, it was Jackson. See, I just,
Speaker 6: I just I've never been that guy. Have you ever
Speaker 6: been that guy? No, You've never been that guy. No,
Speaker 6: Like I was either in or I was out. Never
Speaker 6: looking over at my shoulder was like, you're gonna be
Speaker 6: over here till we put you in.
Speaker 4: But it was never.
Speaker 5: It was never that, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: like I have to look over my shoulder and someone's gonna.
Speaker 1: Snatch me out.
Speaker 6: I've had bad games. Well I'm fighting through mentally and
Speaker 6: I'm saying, okay, he beat me on this. Uh he
Speaker 6: just run me you know where he'd rummer in Detroit
Speaker 6: in one minute then next minute.
Speaker 1: You know, I hate we.
Speaker 6: Got a thirty one day. Oh man, I'm stuffed in
Speaker 6: a hole in him. It can't get a first out.
Speaker 6: But I ain't never worried about about a runner on
Speaker 6: the field. I just done had a bad game.
Speaker 5: So like he had that like when they literally pulled
Speaker 5: him off the field inserted awesome. They had to put
Speaker 5: him back out in the field because got hurt. So
Speaker 5: it's like I just that's tough. That's a tough deal.
Speaker 5: That's a tough deal.
Speaker 7: Maybe it's to learn. I mean, you line up wrong
Speaker 7: two times. Maybe.
Speaker 6: But two weeks ago coach said we're gonna committee, and
Speaker 6: this is the committee. I remember I saying, how you
Speaker 6: gonna do this in practice? You know title start, Well,
Speaker 6: this is a committee. Sign you mess up. We gotta
Speaker 6: get this other guy a chance that I don't know
Speaker 6: how that feels, Chris, Chris, I mean, how does that feel?
Speaker 4: Say Christ? And I'm in the seat right now. Nobody
Speaker 4: pulling me out, man, I'm back here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all right, man, that's it for us.
Speaker 1: Man, appreciate you. That's a super question.
Speaker 4: Man, that's the that's it. You gotta go down and
Speaker 4: talk to Mike Slari, Man.
Speaker 5: Tell what's going on.
Speaker 4: With that man.
Speaker 5: Thanks Chris, keeping up in the back, Jazz Josh, thanks
Speaker 5: the load for jumping on feel Lust. Thanks to you guys.
Speaker 5: We appreciate you. Shannon will be back in this seat tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Tomorrow we do we get ready for the game.
Speaker 4: We'll do We'll do all of it.
Speaker 1: We'll do all of it.
Speaker 5: We'll do Cowboys offense defense, Giants offense defense. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: be honest with y'all, it's gonna look the same.
Speaker 4: It's gonna look the same like you hold these two
Speaker 4: teams up and.
Speaker 5: It's the same. It's literally the same. And we'll see
Speaker 5: which one of these teams who have back.
Speaker 1: A little bit better than yeah.
Speaker 4: You said, if if he said, if all it's all equal.
Speaker 5: Then your Jimmy's and Joe's got to show up, right,
Speaker 5: So we'll see who have the better Jimmies and Joe's.
Speaker 4: Tomorrow.
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Speaker 10: Man.
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