1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: At least. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and we're pleased to be joined by 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: our special guest right now. That would be Steelers inside 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: linebacker Landon roberts And Landon, thank you for joining us 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: here on the drive and really looking forward to seeing 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: you out there doing your thing again this season next 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: to Patrick Queen. What's that? What's that process been like 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: for you? 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 3: How you doing? Guys? Man? I appreciate you guys having 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: me on the show. Man. It's been great. Man. Me 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: and pequ have a great relationship, you know, just chilling 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: as a unit and whatnot. Him Peyton Wilson, you know, uh, 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: drafting him and and and getting Peyton in it has 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: been great. You know. Peyton's young, Uh, fun to be 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 3: around athletics. He takes the coach and he gets on 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: the field with it. We still have Mark Robertson here 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: and whatnot. It's being great, uh, and stuff like that. 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: So I think the whole linebacker group were jeling on 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: a good page and stuff like that and moving in 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: the right direction. But yeah, I can't. I can't say 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: enough of positivity about being next to pqu It's been Uh, 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: it's been great there and it's gonna continue to be. Man, 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 3: I can we me and him both can't wait to 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: the first game. 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: So watching practice in preseason and even his college tape, 30 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 4: Wilson seems way ahead of the curve by rookie standards. 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 4: Do you agree with that? I mean, how's he compared 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: to some of your other former teammates that have come 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: in the league as rookies. 34 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: Well, to be honest with you, I haven't been around. Uh. 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: I haven't had too many rookies uh uh with me 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: in my experience. 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: I had one, matter of fact, when Channing Tindall got 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: drafted to the Miami Dolphins and whatnot. I don't like 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: the compare players to other players. I don't feel like, Uh, 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: Peyton is doing a good job of controlling where he 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: can control, uh soaking it all in, UH being himself 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. That's all you can ask for 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: and whatnot. And you know what I'm saying, I'm excited 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: for Peyton. Peyton's is great in our room. It's fun 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and uh yeah, I know Peyton's 47 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: gonna be a great lineback in this league. 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Our guests here in the drive is a Steelers linebacker 49 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: in Landon Roberts and Landon, Uh we see this defense. 50 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: We haven't gotten to see it as a whole yet 51 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: in the preseason, but on paper, it looks like it's 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: pretty dangerous. Would you would you agree? 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: Man? 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: Look, you get there's two edge guys. You got Cam 55 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: Hayward back now with that that you should be back 56 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: to one hundred percent after you know, basically playing on 57 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: one one leg last year. He added to Shaun Elliott 58 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: to this defense from the back end, you know, you 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: bring in Dante Jackson, it just looks better across the board. 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: Do you agree with that? 61 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: I think, man, to be honest, man, obviously, on paper, man, 62 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: we look we look damn good. But uh, you know, 63 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: us as a unit and being an older experience unit 64 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: also we understand that on paper you could look a 65 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: certain way. But if you're not playing together, communicating well, 66 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: getting on the same page, knowing who next to you 67 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, then it doesn't really matter. You know, 68 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: It's just it's just on paper. It looks great. You know, 69 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: I think we've been we've been doing a great job 70 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: by getting and it started way back in Okay's but 71 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: in training camp, you know, getting to know each other, 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, spending some time with each other outside of 73 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: football to just you know, know one another and in 74 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: the same time, on the football field, communicating well, moving fast, 75 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: knowing how guys or operate and stuff like that. I 76 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: think that's the big part, you know, just getting on 77 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: the same page. And we've been doing a great job 78 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: with it. Man, since I got here, it's been a 79 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: joy to be around. Uh, the guys on the team, 80 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: you know, Big Cam, TJ. Hotsmid, Larry Openchoba. 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 82 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: When you you know what I'm saying, you look in 83 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: the back end. You got Meeka, It's been a joy 84 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. And uh, obviously Mark Roberts, I'm 85 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: talking about the the guys that kind of been here 86 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: and and whatnot and stuff like that, and you know 87 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: Deshaun Elliott, p Q uh d Jack uh and the 88 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 3: rookie class uh that's that got here this year and 89 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: just being able to jail with them guys. I think 90 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: they were moving in the right direction and stuff like that. 91 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: But one good thing about this defense, we always control 92 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 3: we can control, and right now with the what we 93 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: can control, it has been you know, that training camp, 94 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: you know, now getting into that third preseason preseason game, 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: So turn the curve, trying to get our mind focused 96 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: on the games and stuff like that, and just taking 97 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: it one week at a time. 98 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: So you mentioned moving fast, and something I've really noticed 99 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: and I'm sure was an offseason priority is the defense 100 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: pick to the back seven looks a lot faster now, 101 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: I mean just more foot speed than last year. Is 102 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 4: that something you agree with? 103 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 3: Well, you know, last year just overall, we dealt with 104 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: a lot of injuries. That's not excuse. So I wouldn't 105 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: say it was slower or faster, you know, because I 106 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: think what you just have the new additions is only 107 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: really what d Jack and Deshaun. I hate to be 108 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 3: missing people. I'm trying to think off the top. 109 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 4: Of my head, Patrick and whatnot. 110 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: Oh and obviously in our nickel position, I thought you 111 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 3: was talking about from a defensive back standpoint. Of course, 112 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 3: you know, you got guys like Patrick Queen and you 113 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: know in our linebacker room, Peyton is tremendously fast. You know, 114 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: stuff like that, not saying that standpoint. I'm just saying, 115 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: you know, we just had so much turnover sometimes it's 116 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: kind of you know, I don't want to discredit them 117 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: guys that was here. You know, sometimes you probably couldn't 118 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: notice the speed because you know it might have been different. Guys. Know, 119 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: we got dealing with certain things that you can't control 120 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 3: in the league. So I just don't want to discredit 121 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: them guys. But I can speak on the unit that 122 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 3: is here at the time and stuff like that. We're jelling, 123 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: we're jelling well and stuff like that. And them guys 124 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: move fast, you know what I'm saying. They are fast guys. 125 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 126 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: Stuff like that. 127 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 3: But you know, at the end of the day, I 128 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: think it's about communication jailing well, because a guy can 129 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: removing one hundred miles probably on a football field, but 130 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: you know, the communication bad and we dropped somebody in 131 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: coverage or you know, not fitting up the right run gaps, 132 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: then you know, it doesn't mean anything, you know, and 133 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: stuff like that. And I think that's what we're doing 134 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: a great job. That's just everybody being on the same page, 135 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: communicating and whatnot. 136 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: Our guest is on land and Roberts Steelers inside linebacker 137 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: and the land In this offseason, I had the opportunity 138 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: to for Steelers dot Com to write a story on you, 139 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: and I called your dad. You were kind of have 140 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: to give me his phone number, and your dad told 141 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: me this and and I thought it was just a 142 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: great testament, uh to you. He said, And Landing was 143 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: made to be a Steelers linebacker? What what does that 144 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: mean to you? To be a Steelers linebacker? 145 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: I mean a lot, you know the tradition of just 146 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: being you know what I'm saying, in his organization and 147 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: the and the great linebackers that they came through. Man. 148 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: And I tell people all the time like this land 149 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: in number fifty and knowing who used to be in 150 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: them numbers. You know, uh, you know a lot of 151 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: people uh you know speak a ryme, but you know 152 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: you had Larry Foots in it also and stuff like that. 153 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: So I always, uh, you know what I'm saying, like 154 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: like appreciate you know the room I'm in and and 155 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: and and being around you know what I'm saying. Even 156 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: Mike t from a standpoint, because dos he know you 157 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: know how them backers are and they breed around Pittsburgh, 158 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: you know, and I'm just I've been you know since 159 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: last year. You know, I don't I don't let that 160 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: go and just you know, breathe through like every game, 161 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: every time it's time to get in crunch time. Like 162 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I want to make sure, 163 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: like you know, when they see me out there, like 164 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: they know I'm holding it. Still the culture of its 165 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: still a linebacker to the highest. 166 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 4: So there does seem to be more speed in your 167 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: position room and versatility and a really good group. Would 168 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: you expect the percentage of Nickel to go up? I mean, 169 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 4: you guys are kind of low and Nickel, and you know, 170 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 4: with two of you guys out there on the field 171 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: and wide variety of packages, you think that's something we'll 172 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 4: see more of. 173 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I think that's just 174 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 3: week the weeknd what type of teams you're playing, to 175 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: be honest with you, but I think it's great to 176 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: have a defense with versatility because that's what uh this 177 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: this NFL is about. Matchups. You know, when offensive league 178 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: offenses is game planning for you, you know, their they're 179 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: game planning and trying to get the perfect matchups. So 180 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: when you vers of their own defense and stuff like that, 181 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: that's just add to the value of players on that 182 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: team and stuff like that. So, you know, I won't 183 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: say we'll see more, I won't say we'll see less. 184 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: It just honestly depends on who we're playing that week 185 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: and uh and and offensively with the type of themes 186 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: that they do. But I think it's a benefit to 187 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: us to have versatility, you know, because now you can 188 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: put guys in positions or guys that uh, you know, 189 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: to help out the defense. Uh at the end of 190 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 3: the day, put the defense in the best position to 191 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: get the win, because at the end of the day, 192 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: we all just want to win that Super Bowl and 193 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: hold that Lombardi and that's what it's all about, you know. 194 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: So it's a team sport. 195 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: And then one last question for you here before we 196 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: let you go. So you mentioned versatility there. I don't 197 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: know if a lot of people know you played a 198 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: little four back in your time when you were with 199 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: New England and you caught a touchdown pass from Tom 200 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: Brady and it wasn't one of these little flipping out 201 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: to the you know, it just flipped one into the 202 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: end zone. You caught the ball and you ran about 203 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: sixty yards with that thing. Yeah you miss playing fullback? 204 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: You line up in glass people here. 205 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: No, I don't miss. It's like, you know, at that time, 206 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: it was like the more you can do and whatnot. 207 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 3: But you know, we was down fullbacks and uh. You know, 208 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 3: I've always a lot of people always ask me, man, 209 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: what you called a touchdown from Tom? But I'm like, yeah, 210 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: I'm a linebacker. 211 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: I watched that videos out there. You made a dude 212 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: miss in the open field? Nice? 213 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, come on, man, I won't make them 214 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: miss now. You know. You know I'm gonna make them miss. 215 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: I You know I'm not easy to bring down. I 216 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: always laugh with the guys on the team because I 217 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: tell them, everybody didn't touch my hands, it's gonna touchdown. 218 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: That's right. One interception an eighty five yard touchdown. 219 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a crib at all. No way, I'm like, 220 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: all right. 221 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 4: Maybe should be returning punts. I mean, let's get the 222 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 4: ball in your hands. 223 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Man. You know, look, look I 224 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: got a good ratio right now, Mann, I get my 225 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: hands on the ball this see and see if I 226 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 3: can keep that street goal hopefully. 227 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate your time landing, and we'll catch up 228 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: with you here at some point in the future. I'll 229 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: stop by your locker or whatever and give you a 230 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: shout out there. But we appreciate you stopping by here 231 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: on the drive. That is a land In Robert Steelers 232 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: inside linebacker and just a great guy, a great football player. 233 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: Head of that outstanding year for the Steelers last year, 234 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: one hundred and one tackles, two and a half sacks, 235 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: ten tackles for a loss, that Titus career high. Really 236 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: kind of you know, the He and I were talking 237 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: in the spring when I was working on that story 238 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: for him. I said, I thought he was kind of 239 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: the glue that kind of held everything together there towards 240 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: the end of the season when as he mentioned it, 241 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: I think guys were going down around him, not just 242 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: at linebacker but at safety. Yeah, and he kind of 243 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: held everything together there. 244 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly. I was actually gonna bring up his time 245 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 4: in New England. I mean, that's a big Belichick thing. 246 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 4: The more you can do, and I'm sure that he 247 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 4: gathered a lot of that early in his career and 248 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 4: now the Steelers are reaping the benefits. You know that 249 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: we need you to do a lot of different things 250 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 4: for us, wear a lot of different hats. And I 251 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: miscast him. You know, when the Steelers signed him, I 252 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 4: thought he was a two down thumper that you know, 253 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 4: you don't want to playing in reverse or you know, 254 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: latterly as much. And he far exceeded my expectations. Was 255 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: really good in coverage. You can be out there in 256 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 4: any situation. Yeah. 257 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: Just a good football player, yeah, no doubt. And that's 258 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: he will thump you. Yeah, that's the thing. You know. 259 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, I wrote that story on him for 260 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: Steelers dot Com. Still probably check that out over there. 261 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: But his dad told me that his dad, Eli, we 262 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: talked for half an hour and he said that even 263 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: when the Landing was just getting into football and playing 264 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: flag football, he was always looking for content. It's all 265 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: about the I like the coacher like he'd go make 266 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: a tackle on so and literally make a tackle, and 267 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: then and the coach look up at his dad and 268 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, kind of shrug his shoulders, like what are 269 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: we doing here? 270 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: The flag might not be his bag. Put pads on 271 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: and smash people, come downhill. Good pass rusher too, yeah, 272 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: killer versus run. 273 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, does a lot of good stuff there, and 274 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: you you put him in that defense with Patrick Queen, 275 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: you put a Peyton Wilson in there as well, as 276 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned Mark. They're they're pretty well set at that 277 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: inside linebacker. And we'll see what happens with Cole Hulkem 278 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: at some point. But looks much different than it did 279 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: a year ago. 280 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. We just did that segment in the first hour 281 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 4: going over draft prospects, and I meant to say, like, man, 282 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 4: we mentioned a bunch of these linebackers. I don't think 283 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: that's gonna be the Steelers market. 284 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: Something you're seriously bad would have to happen, right. 285 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 4: They look like they're pretty set up now as well 286 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 4: as in the future. So I really like that room. 287 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 4: It might be one of the bigger upgrades on the team. 288 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly. And I think, you know, as you've always said, 289 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: if you're if you're fasted inside linebacker, you've got a 290 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: fast defense. 291 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: And they're fast inside linebacker, I mean. 292 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: They're you know, probably look at it and people might 293 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: think not think that a Lando Roberts was a fast 294 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: inside line I think he was like a four to 295 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: six to nine guy, and. 296 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 4: So he doesn't slowly at all. And he doesn't waste 297 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: any steps either. 298 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 299 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: I mean whenever he sat down, nice doesn't go, but yeah, 300 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 4: he doesn't doesn't fool around. 301 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's I think it's gonna be a 302 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: really good defense. 303 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the middle of the field defense will 304 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 4: be noticeably better. And he mentioned it too. I mean 305 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: they had to dig really deep because of the injuries 306 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: at parts last year too, you know, I mean they 307 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: were really thin at times. Yeah, so but he did 308 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: hold together. 309 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that kind of affected the way they wanted to 310 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: do things, but that defense was still pretty darn good 311 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: last year. A top ten scoring defense. I think it 312 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: was like top seven or something like that. Yeah, and 313 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: you did that with the offense not giving you a 314 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: lot of help in some games. 315 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: No, a lot of times if starting field position wasn't 316 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: great or three and out or those type of things. 317 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 4: Nice losing the time of possession badly, yeah, yeah, not 318 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: being able to run the ball on offense, those type 319 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 4: of things. So hopefully a little more balance. Yeah, that's 320 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: what you want to see out there. And I think 321 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: that should, uh, that should start to happen here. And 322 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: I think, you know, Landon Robert's going to be a 323 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: big part of that. 324 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: Let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 325 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here on 326 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers Audio Network. We're gonna be back with more. 327 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: Let the little fantasy football focus after this. All right, 328 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: we'll do that. 329 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 330 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 331 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 332 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is the Matt 333 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: Williamson and fun. That was great. 334 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 4: We don't do that all the time, you know. 335 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: I enjoy talking to Landon. He's a good dude, just 336 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: one of those veteran guys that gets it. And yeah, 337 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: always a good dude. I enjoyed talking. Like I mentioned, 338 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: his dad that's a good guy as well. Good family 339 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: and they raise a stellar son. 340 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 4: So no doubt And the first interaction I've ever had 341 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 4: with them, you know, talking to him or whatever. But 342 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 4: I've always really respected his style of play even before 343 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 4: he joined. 344 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: He's an old school football player. Yeah, yeah, like you 345 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: fit in with Belichick and Tomlin, you know what I mean. 346 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: Like there's something said for that, you know, so man 347 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned in going into the break, it would be 348 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: time for the fantasy football focus. We've gone through quarterbacks 349 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: this week, we've gone through running backs this week. We 350 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: haven't done wide receivers yet. Yeah, there's a much deeper 351 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: dive here with the tears on these ones. 352 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 4: Looking here at just looking at this morning, there's seven 353 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 4: that I feel really confident about. And I don't know 354 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: who my number eight is. 355 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: So let's take a look here at a fantasypros dot 356 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: com they have them split up into teers. Here they 357 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: have the top five. 358 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 4: Okay, I have five and then I have two. Yeah, 359 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: a lot of people have another guy in that top 360 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: seven eight and I don't. 361 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to so at Ceedee Lamb, Tyreek Hill, 362 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, Justin, Jeffer Sinama, Ross Saint Brown. Really doesn't 363 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: matter much in terms of well I think the top two. 364 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: I think Lamb and Hill so the league. 365 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 4: Were in together out the other two and I'm picking two, 366 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 4: and I'm assuming McCaffrey's be gone. I think I'm gonna 367 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: take Tyreek over Ceedee Lamb. Yeah, I mean Tyreek. Part 368 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 4: of it is the holdout to and you know, but 369 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 4: you can't go too wrong with either. 370 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: If we don't have our draft for a couple of weeks. Yeah, 371 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: if Lamb signs his contract, does that change the dynamic 372 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: because he he led the league in targets last year 373 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: and there's nobody else there. 374 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 4: I know, I mean, the volume is insanity. I think 375 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: Tyreek's better. I think they tied for or they were 376 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 4: very close in touchdowns last year as well. I think 377 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 4: that's true. I mean, I don't think you go wrong 378 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 4: with either either. With you, but when I did my 379 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: initial reactions when I built the spreadsheet the first time, 380 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 4: when I was on the beach at Turks and Caicos, 381 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 4: I just immediately put Hill at one, and I haven't 382 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: really changed my opinion. They don't have Jefferson in Tier one. 383 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's there. He was four. 384 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: Then they don't have Chase. 385 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: It was Lamb, Hill, Chase Jefferson, and mar Ross Saint Brown. 386 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, all right. 387 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: That's why I think everybody has those fus. 388 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 389 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I ended up with the seventh overall pick. You'll 390 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: get one of those, and I'm like, I'll be I'll 391 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: be fine. I'll get one of those one of those 392 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: five wide receivers or three runner. 393 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 4: One of the three running backs the top eight. Yeah, 394 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: the one I'm not Brown is eight to me, say 395 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 4: brown to me. 396 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: Here's the thing though about mon Ross Saint Brown. 397 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 4: I had him on my team last week. So much 398 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 4: fun to have. 399 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: He had ten one hundred yard games that led the NFL. Yeah, 400 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 1: and I think he played every week. Yeah, it's all 401 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: the thing every week. I had him the year before 402 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: that when he kind of broke out, and I'm like, 403 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: this is fantastic. I think he has two games that 404 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: aren't in a dome too. Yeah, I mean, like it's 405 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: up and the eight him. 406 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 4: I know, I know, but of those top five receivers 407 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 4: and three backs, I think he's my eighth player. 408 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: All right, I would take him. I would gladly take 409 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: him at seven. I guess I would gladly take him 410 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: at eight. I mean, yeah, I think he's Jefferson's the one. 411 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. 412 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: Jefferson's the one. I don't if it came down, people 413 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: have him. If it came down to Jefferson or Saint 414 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: Brown would be like, I mean, Jefferson is the more 415 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: talented player. But I do love I don't love the situation. 416 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 4: I mean, quarterback has a lot to do with Yeah. 417 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: The quarterback situations unsettled. They're changing it running back. I 418 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: know what's going on with with this, you know, uh. 419 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: The Addison situation too, right now, I get it. That 420 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 4: then that's I mean last in town. 421 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: I know. 422 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: He just it might be like a basketball game, everybody. 423 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna have four guys on the line 424 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and seven guys on Jefferson. 425 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah right, Jefferson, and he might be good enough to 426 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: overcome it. He might mean he's that that That's what 427 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 4: my fear is if I pass on him. 428 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean he produced last year was with a lot 429 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: of bad quarterbacks exactly. 430 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean they far putting Dobbs in and 431 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: those guys too. And I just think maybe Monday after 432 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 4: Week one, we might I like Jefferson at eighteen targets. 433 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: A lot with it. You know at Lamb and Saint 434 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: Brown won't Tier two guys and some of these I 435 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: disagree with. 436 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 4: I have two in my Tier two, so I bet 437 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 4: I do too. 438 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: So they've got aj Brown. Yes, I agree with that one. 439 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: Me too, Garrett Wilson, me too, I agree too. Then 440 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: it's a different I don't know who number eight is 441 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: for me. Then they got Poka Nakup at eight, Deebo 442 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: Samuel at nine, Mike Evans at ten. I ain't going there. 443 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 4: They're not close for me. Everybody has Puka in tier two. 444 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 4: I have him down as like my I keep moving 445 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: him down every day. I think might be the better player. 446 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 4: And I'm just looking here my cup might have a 447 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 4: better year. And I don't have Debo close to number eight. 448 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 4: I don't have Evans at eight. 449 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't get one. And I know you you've dinged 450 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: them a little bit too. I don't understand why people 451 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: were moving DeVante Adams out of that group. 452 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 4: I did ding them a little bit. I think their 453 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 4: quarterback situation is so bad. But he's the one that 454 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 4: I have the hardest time. I keep moving Puka down. 455 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: The situation last year wasn't great. Now I know, I 456 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 4: keep moving Puka down and I feel very confident about it. 457 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: I keep moving Adams down and going. 458 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: If there were four there were, let's okay, there were 459 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: four games last year where wide receiver got twenty targets 460 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: in a game. Yeah, DeVante Adams had two of them. 461 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 4: Oh, I get it, and Minshew will feed Pittman and 462 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean ed Pittman to. 463 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: The point where Pittman will be overdrafted this year. 464 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: Oh too. Pittman's pretty low for me, and I like 465 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: the player a lot. Adams is my hardest receiver to 466 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: rank because he's been that eighth guy for me. 467 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: And we had a big conversation about him last year. 468 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: I think he's still excellent. We show a big conversation 469 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 1: yesterday about him. 470 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, hopefully being a Steeler, you know, right, Yeah, 471 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 4: I know he's one that I am very on the fence. 472 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that could change. Like right now 473 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: they have DeVante Adams wide receiver seventeen. Yeah, that's behind 474 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: guys like Nico Collins and Brandon Ayuk and Marvin Harrison 475 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: and Poka Nakua. Like, so, I know what I say, 476 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: he gets traded after week two. 477 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 4: If he's if he gets trade, he's going to contender, right, 478 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 4: He's not going to the garbage. 479 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: What they say them to send them to the Jets. 480 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden he's back with Aaron Rodgers. 481 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: Like you kidding me? I know you think Rogers isn't 482 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: going to feed feed him. 483 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 4: So I I already know how you're going to react 484 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 4: to this, and I don't. It's not my final answer, 485 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 4: but right now I was just looking at it today. 486 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 4: I have five guys ahead of Adams that we haven't mentioned, 487 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: and my next group is London, A Lave, Harrison, Neighbors, 488 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: and Waddle Like, I'm sure you're not taking Harrison or 489 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 4: Neighbors over. 490 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: I like neighbors. Okay, I like neighbors a lot. I'm 491 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: not taking them over at Vante Adams. Adams is right 492 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: behind those five. I like, like, I like those two 493 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: guys more, I think than the consensus does. 494 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 4: London and Neighbors. Yeah, okay, I think A Lave in 495 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: London are pretty similar, just. 496 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: Because I just like the quarterback situation that a lot too. 497 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I have London over a Lave. 498 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: But I think they have a solid running game that's 499 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: going to force a way better offense. Yeah, it's a 500 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: way better offense. 501 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 4: I'm interested in Falcons and this is a week one thing. 502 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be a lot of shootouts. 503 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's the thing. I don't think 504 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: their defense is right right right? That Tier three for 505 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: for them, And we didn't talk Mike Evans I think 506 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: is a solid double off the wall all day long. 507 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have him that high though he had 508 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 4: an awesome year. It's not because of his age. I 509 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 4: just like Waddle the rookies Adams better, but he's right 510 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 4: there with those. 511 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: I agree with them on Brown and Wilson. I agree 512 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: with Evans being in that tier because he just all 513 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: he does is catch touchdown pas. 514 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they was nice about it. I don't think 515 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: he'll change because Canals left. He caught a lot more 516 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 4: slants and every down and more layups too. 517 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield knows where his bread is buttered at, and 518 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: it's Mike Adams. I don't have Mike Adams. 519 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't quite have him in tier two, 520 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: and I don't have Debo in No. 521 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 1: Deebo to me doesn't belong anywhere near that. 522 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: I think he's like my eighteenth. 523 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: Especially since they have Ayuk at twelve. 524 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 4: I have them real close to each other. But I'm 525 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 4: not that high over Debo right. 526 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: Defense can't hit that offense once they want to run 527 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: the football. 528 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: They won't to run the football, and they I think 529 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 4: they had despite being one of the best teams in 530 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 4: the league. They were either first or thirty first or 531 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 4: thirty second and pass attempts last year. Yeah, I mean 532 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: they just don't run the ball that much. They get 533 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 4: big leads the fourth quarter and they don't throw. Yeah, 534 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 4: and they pillage from each other as we talked about. 535 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: It all to me, I don't know that they still 536 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: want to do a lot of the running back stuff 537 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: with Deebo. 538 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 4: I don't think so, Yeah, I really don't. 539 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: So that's out the window. So if he's catching three 540 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: or four passes a game, right and he's not running 541 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: the ball. 542 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: And you know me, I'm not usually super afraid of 543 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 4: injury prone dudes, but he scares me, yeah, a little bit. 544 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 4: He's so physical and you know, he takes a lot 545 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 4: of hits. They're not close to Tier two for me. 546 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: They're tier three guys are Harrison Okay? Are you London? 547 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: So they're pretty high on London. I'm high on London. 548 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 549 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 4: I think that's lower than consensus on London. 550 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: H Nico Collins, Chris Olave, DK Metcalf, DeVante Adams, Jaylen Waddle, 551 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: DJ Moore who like, I think he's the clear number one. 552 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: I do too, and Cooper Cup at twenty Okay, not 553 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: a lot of argument there. I'm higher on Waddle. I'm 554 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: a little higher on Harrison Adams. We've talked to death. 555 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm just on the fence with the guy. I can't 556 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: just slot them where I want yet. One thing I 557 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: heard about Waddle which really adds up. If you look 558 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: at his Fantasy points per game last year, they're good, 559 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: not great, you know, but if you watch the games, 560 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: he was in and out of the lineup a lot. 561 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: But his Fantasy points person per route run. 562 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 4: Is like through the roof because when he was out there, 563 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 4: he was awesome, but things were bothering him. So he's 564 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: on the sideline a lot during those Yeah, exactly. 565 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: Need a lot of help. 566 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: And it's true for a couple guys, but what if 567 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 4: Tyreek gets hurt? Yeah, I mean, wow, you know you 568 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 4: might win the league? 569 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: Tier four guys. This is twenty one through twenty nine 570 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: according to fantasypros dot Com. Amari Cooper solid and I. 571 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: Never owned him. 572 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, DeVonta Smith, Yeah, my leak. Neighbors. 573 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: I'm higher on neighbors than that. 574 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: T Higgins at twenty four, George Pickens at twenty five, 575 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: twenty six, Tank Dell twenty seven, Michael Pittman, there's our 576 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: I think they're a little lower on him than a 577 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: lot of people. Yeah, yeah, that's dropping him five spots 578 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: from where they had him before. Okay, down seven spots 579 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: from where they had him before. Stefan Diggs, and then 580 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers finishes off. Okay here for I'm glad they 581 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: have Pickens ahead of Zay Flowers because I've seen a 582 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: lot of places that have Jay Flowers ahead of Pickens. 583 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, by a lot, even in similar stages of their career. 584 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't see that at all. 585 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: I don't either. Again, I was looking at this morning. 586 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 4: I didn't know we were going to talk receivers, but 587 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 4: Pickens is my eighteenth. Yeah, it's pretty high. I think 588 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: he's just pretty high. 589 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we just did a thing earlier this week 590 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: where we talked about was yesterday, I believe, when we 591 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: talked about potential first time Pro bowlers. Yeah yeah, yeah, 592 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: at the article on NFL dot com, and I said 593 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: Pickens is could lead the league in targets this year. 594 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: And I don't think that's a stretch. I don't either, 595 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 4: And frankly, I think Neighbors is right there too. Yeah, 596 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: immense talent. Nobody else and say what you want about 597 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. I don't even really care, but they're gonna 598 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 4: scheme neighbors up like crazy, like I have neighbors. 599 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: Like my tenth receiver, right. I mean, he's going to 600 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: get the ball a lot, and he's a crazy talent. 601 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 4: There's a name or two on there. I wasn't super 602 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 4: thrilled with. I keep moving Pittman down. I mean they 603 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 4: they were RPO centric to no end. I don't think 604 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 4: that's going to be Richardson. And there's a lot of 605 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 4: mouse to feed there too. I don't think they'll throw 606 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 4: a ton. It's not his fault, but I think you 607 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 4: got your best year out of Pittman last year. 608 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. Uh, Tier five guys, there's a 609 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: bunch of guys here from this guy takes you thirty 610 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: through forty three. Stefan Earl, I'm sorry, Terry McLaurin, Rashi 611 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: Rice moving back up boards because the day, yeah he's 612 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: going to be suspended, looks good for him. Kristin Kirk, 613 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, Deontay Johnson, Chris Godwin, Jaden Reid, Keenan Allen, 614 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: Christian Watson, Xavier Worthy, DeAndre Hopkins, Hollywood Brown, Roma Doun's 615 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: and Courtland Sutton. 616 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 4: So a couple things stand out to me. Is I 617 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 4: like the first two names you mentioned clearly more than 618 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 4: everybody else. 619 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: On that list. 620 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 4: I like Kirk a lot, like you like Kirk more 621 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 4: than me, but I totally get why you do. I mean, 622 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 4: he's a double two, you like, he's as solid. 623 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: As a comedy. 624 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 4: He's a good player too, you know. And I'm a 625 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 4: Lawrence believer. What's odd to me there is for fantasy. 626 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 4: I'm just staying away from the Packers. I mean, too 627 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 4: many miles of he They like Romeo Dubbs way more 628 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 4: than I do, and that screws everything up. And Wix 629 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 4: is in the picture. 630 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: Which is the one guy of that group. 631 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: Who He's the one I'm drafting at eighty where he's 632 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 4: going yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, me too. 633 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: I'll take that and take it. He's a lottery ticket. 634 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 4: And the Chiefs are interesting to me, like more and more. 635 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: I think Mahomes is going to be for fifty touchdowns 636 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 4: this year, yeah, but I think they're going to be 637 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 4: unbelievable on offense. But three receivers in the same tier 638 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 4: when you Travis Kelsey. 639 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: It's tough like I can't. I kept to hurry WITHO there. Yeah, 640 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: and I'm think is going to get the ball a lot. 641 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 4: Right, I mean you better be the best offense in 642 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 4: the league that yeah, I mean not even close to 643 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: support that, it's almost impossible. 644 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: Well, and the problem with guys like Worthy in Hollywood Brown, 645 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: they're little guys and they tend to get nicked up. 646 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely Worthy, He's got a lot of buzz right now. 647 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 4: I don't know that I'm in that tier with him. 648 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, number thirty nine overall, right. 649 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 4: I think that's a third rookie. 650 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: I mean like I had a Hollywood Brown too, Like 651 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: that's I don't know how much time Brown's going to miss. 652 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 4: And Racy Rice is the one that got so many 653 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: targets he does like the Kelsey stuff. 654 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Uh, Tier six guys, and this takes you 655 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: forty four through sixty three. So it's a huge tier, okay. 656 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, Jamison Williams, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Lad McConkie, 657 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas. It's like the rookie Yeah here, Keyan Coleman, 658 00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: Rashid Shaheed, Jacobe Myers, Tyler Lockett, Romeo Dobbs, Josh Palmer, Curtis, 659 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: Samuel Brandon, Cooks, Mike Williams, Khalil Shakir, Gabe Davis, Jerry Judy, 660 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: Dontavian Wicks, sixty one, Josh Downs, Johan Dotson, Like this is. 661 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 4: The first tier I've got to that, we've got to 662 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 4: that I've said, I'm psyched about starting those. 663 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: I would not want to have to start any of 664 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: those guys except in a bye week. 665 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 4: And Smith the jig, but I don't think belongs with them. 666 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: I don't think he does. 667 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 4: You would have him way over the rest of the 668 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 4: words you mentioned. Everyone else is kind of the same. 669 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 4: They're ride receiver fours five. 670 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: There's some hope there. 671 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 4: Maybe Mike Williams catches two touchdowns one day or whatever. 672 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 4: You know. 673 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: So I after the draft I was really high on 674 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: lab McConkie because of the situation. 675 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 4: The news has been bad. 676 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: Though news's been bad. 677 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: Guy. 678 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, because of that, I might bump Josh Palmer. I 679 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: have been too. 680 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 4: I think that's starting to show itself. He's probably their 681 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 4: number one. 682 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: And when in previous seasons when the other receivers were 683 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: hurt and he had to be the number one, he 684 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: had some good games. 685 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, lot a good game, yeah, ye yeah. I 686 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 4: mean I'd love him to be my four. 687 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean you're looking at like, you know, six for 688 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: eighty three, okay, yeah right, all right, that it be conky, 689 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Tier seven guys huge once again, takes you 690 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: sixty five or sixty four through eighty three. You're looking 691 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: at a Donnie Mitchell, Darnell Mooney, Michael Wilson, to Mario Douglas, 692 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: Adam Thielen, Jalen Polk, Rashad Bateman, Xavier Lagett, DeMarcus Robinson, 693 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: Marvin Mims, one, Del Robinson, Jermaine Burton, Ricky Piarsow, Quinton Johnston, 694 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: Jawan Baker, Jalen Hyatt, Roman Wilson. It's your second Steeler 695 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: receiver at eighty Darius Slayton, Tyler Boyd, Elijah Moore. I 696 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: don't want to be fishing in that poot. 697 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 4: As I have to say too, like I want to 698 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 4: be taking long shots on running backs when those guys 699 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 4: are getting drafted. You know, give me a backup running back. 700 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 4: That's an injury. 701 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 1: Awave, unless I loaded up in the middle rounds. All right, 702 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: A bunch of running backs. Those guys are lottery tickets 703 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: and most of them aren't going. 704 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 4: To hit, and maybe I'm drafting Matthew Stafford in that area, 705 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 4: you know, quarterback eighteen or tight end eighteen or something 706 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 4: like that. Again, I think that's why it's easy to say, 707 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 4: you never know how the draft is going to go. 708 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: But if I can get in a back early and 709 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 4: then get like three of my next four picks or receivers, 710 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 4: then I'm not fishing in those waters, you know. 711 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to go all the way down on 712 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 1: these rankings. Two number what are we looking at here? 713 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: Number one? Thirteen? You get the Van Jefferson. 714 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I'd rather Van Jefferson Roum Wilson. 715 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: I think it's I think that's under selling. I think 716 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: he should probably be a couple of tiers higher in 717 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: the number two. He's the number two receiver. He got 718 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: guys like like Adam Thielen and you know, Xavier Lagett 719 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: and Demark Patriot guys. 720 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, yeah, you don't even know their roles quite yet. 721 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: You know, right now we know what his role is. 722 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that's going to be what it is 723 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: when you know, but he's the number two guy. He's 724 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: gonna be on the field pretty consistently. 725 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 4: It certainly isn't waddle if Tyreek gets hurt. But if 726 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 4: if by chance Pickens miss time, he's gonna get eight targets. Yeah, 727 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I mean, so I don't 728 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: know that any Steeler receiver not named Pickings is fantasy worthy. 729 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 4: I mean in a normal league, right he would. He 730 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 4: should be the second one. 731 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Calvin Austin is at one nineteen list. 732 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: So okay, that's what you're looking at there with the 733 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: Steeler receivers right now. We'll see if they do something 734 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: at that position. But certainly, uh to me, you know, 735 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: if you if you come out of this draft and 736 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: you don't have one of those top or two of 737 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: those top thirty guys thirty ish, I would say you're scratching. 738 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 4: You better have two, yeah, and if you have three, 739 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 4: you're pretty comfortable. 740 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 741 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 4: The nice thing about receivers is usually those top thirty 742 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: have a pretty high floor week the week, you know, 743 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 4: I mean, anyone can go one for nineteen or whatever 744 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 4: or you know, but you're probably gonna get that those 745 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 4: guys are all number ones. Number two's that you should 746 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 4: put consistent points up if you're starting three of those 747 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 4: Top thirty every week. Yeah, kind of shooting to do that. 748 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 4: But I haven't done any box yet. I mean we 749 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: did one like a couple weeks ago, but I haven't 750 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 4: done any mocks to see how I can make that happen. 751 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: What we're doing on Friday, Yeah we should, we should 752 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, see what tough it is. You know again, 753 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: you're you're you know, if you don't get three of 754 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: those Top thirty or whatever, you're you're gonna be kind 755 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: of scratching to So. 756 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 4: I should have asked you this off the get go, 757 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 4: who's your number eight? If we agree that there's five studs, 758 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: Wilson and A. J. Brown, to me are in a 759 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 4: tier by themselves, it could be Adams. I've had them there. 760 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: To me, it's Adams. 761 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 4: Okay, I've bumped Adams behind Mine's London at the moment, 762 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 4: but that doesn't feel right. It's London, A Lave, Harrison, Neighbors, Wattle, Adams. 763 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 4: But those five are all kind of same to me, 764 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 4: I might put Adams right back on top. 765 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: To me, Adams is a safe double, like if you 766 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: take Harrison or you take uh, you know, Neighbors there 767 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: you're hoping. 768 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 4: Oh you're hoping right. I mean that's early for a rookie. 769 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: For a rookie receiver, like it's isn't a rookie running back? No, right, right, Well, 770 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to take them to get them as 771 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: the eighth bests that you're talking about, maybe first round, 772 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: early second round for rookie receiver. That history shows us overall, 773 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: that's that's a stretch. 774 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not You're not gonna have the pook 775 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 4: a year probably either, you know. I mean it's again 776 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: I mentioned we're in the league together. I picked two. 777 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 4: I don't love that two three turn. At that point, 778 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 4: like the twenty third and twenty sixth pick, I'm gonna 779 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 4: be making those decisions. Those tops seven receivers are gone. Yeah, 780 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 4: there's no question about that. Do you take them? Waddle there, 781 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 4: you're taking Harrison there. I probably would just take Adams 782 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 4: of that. 783 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: And if you don't take one of those top receivers, 784 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: you're not getting one long wait right right right, And 785 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take I mean, I don't care if 786 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: you are listening or not. 787 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 4: I'm not taking a tight end or quarterback at twenty 788 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 4: three or twenty six yet. Yeah, those positions are too deep. 789 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 4: So those are going to be running backs or receivers 790 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 4: my top three picks. But I don't think I love 791 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 4: where I'm at. I'd rather pick pick them or you 792 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 4: are I'm at seven. Yeah, I like this year because, yeah, 793 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 4: I don't think your first round picks much different than mine. 794 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: No, not in the general. I'm gonna get one of 795 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: those top eight guys. Yeah, it's one of the three 796 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: running backs for one of those five wide receivers, and 797 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm still going to have an opportunity in round two. 798 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: You probably won't get Wilson or Brown. No, but again, 799 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: if if you know a guy like. 800 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 4: You might get the back that falls that shouldn't. 801 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, if Adams or London are there, all right, I'm 802 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: happy with that. 803 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm not sure I'll even have a 804 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 4: crack at London or Adams. 805 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: At that point where a Lave or you know, any 806 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: of those guys, I'm happy with that. 807 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, like I picked two, you pick seven. 808 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 4: I don't think our first picks are that much different. 809 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: But whoever picks nine there picks a lot different than 810 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 4: your seventh one. Yeah, I mean. 811 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: It's hugely different from yours. 812 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but not as much as you say, right right, 813 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 4: I mean Saint Brown versus Chase versus Tyreek. 814 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty darn good. Yeah, you know, it's 815 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: a good place. I like the middle. That's the sweet 816 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: spot to be in the draft. That's going to do 817 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: it for the Fantasy Football Focus. Matt and are going 818 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: to take a break. We'll be back with more here 819 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: on the Steelers Audio Network. This is the We'll be 820 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: back with more right after this. 821 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 2: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamsons 822 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 823 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 824 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is 825 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on the 826 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: Steelers Audio Network. And Matt dan Graziano on ESPN has 827 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: ranked the divisions uses FPI. 828 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 4: Which is the that's their version of their power INDI yeah, yeah. 829 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: Football Power Index to do so, so he kind of 830 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: has something to back this up. Not surprisingly, he has 831 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: the NFC South last. 832 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 4: They're distant last, right yeah. I mean, maybe the Bucks 833 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: in Atlanta are better than we think. Maybe the Saints 834 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 4: win eight games like they usually do. But I don't 835 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 4: see I don't see a contender there. 836 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 837 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 4: I mean, even if things go perfect for Tampa and Atlanta, 838 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 4: they stay healthy, their quarterbacks best season in their career, 839 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 4: can they win the Super Bowl? No, I don't think. 840 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 4: I don't think. 841 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: Winner that division wins how many games this year? 842 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 3: Ten? 843 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: I don't even think I'd go that high. 844 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 4: Just because they play each other and Carolina's on the 845 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 4: schedule and their schedule is so easy. 846 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're still. 847 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 4: Nine. But yeah, I tends a lot, tends a lot. 848 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 4: I don't think any of their over under win totals 849 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 4: or double digits. Yeah, you know, so they would exceed that. 850 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: I think it's nine. 851 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 4: It could be. 852 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a nine and eight division. 853 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 4: And then probably a first round loss kind of like 854 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 4: last year. Yeah. 855 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: Probably. 856 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 4: I mean I know Atlanta has higher hopes than that, 857 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 4: but last year, Oh they played that down Trott and Eagles. Yeah, 858 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 4: that they were cooked before they got there. 859 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 3: Uh. 860 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: Number seven and this one might surprise some people. The 861 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: AFC West good. 862 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 4: I was gonna say the AFC West is going to 863 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 4: be too high because everyone thinks the Chargers are good. 864 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 4: I think they have one team. Yeah, I think Denver 865 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 4: and the Raiders could pick in the top five. I 866 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 4: think the Chargers might pick in the top ten, and 867 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 4: the Chiefs are probably the best team league. 868 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Right now, FPI has Kansas City at number two 869 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL, the Chargers at eighteen, the Ers with that, Yeah, 870 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: it's still a little rich, you know, right, the Raiders 871 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: at twenty four, the Broncos at thirty. 872 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's close. I would probably be lower 873 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 4: on all three of those teams, though, in terms of 874 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 4: if I was power ranking them. 875 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: Right now, I think, yeah, I think I would be two. 876 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I think the easiest pick the whole league 877 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 4: is Chiefs to win their division. If you had to pick, 878 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 4: they have to be. 879 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: The gap is so great between them and everybody else. 880 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 4: I think Mahomes has lost like one division game is 881 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 4: life too, and Andy Reid's not far behind. 882 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: Well, that would be to Russell Wilson. 883 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's lost more than he lost the Raiders. 884 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: The Raiders, Yeah, last year they lost too. 885 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 4: They lost too. Yeah, so it doesn't happen. 886 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: Much, No, it does not. At sick the NFC East, 887 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: which Washington got two Giants. You got two good teams, Yeah, 888 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 1: he got two really bad ones. 889 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, those other two could be top five picks too. 890 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 4: I have some doubts about Dallas being they'd be more 891 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 4: like a Tier two team on a Tier one team 892 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 4: for me. Philly's played really bad then to see, really bad. 893 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 4: But I'm going to pick them to win the division. 894 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, but some of the news out 895 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 1: of Philly hasn't been grade either. 896 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 3: No. 897 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought they'd be a better spot right now. 898 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: Number five is the AFC East, which is kind of surprising. 899 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 4: I'd have them higher. I think they'd be my third. 900 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: One their FPI rankings, the Patriots have to kill them. 901 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: Buffalo's fifth, the Dolphins are eleven, the Jets twelve. New 902 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: England's thirty first. Yeah, okay, I only got good teams 903 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: and one really bad one, and I don't think i'd 904 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: have the Bills fifth. 905 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 906 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 1: I don't think so either. 907 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 4: If I were a power ranking the other I think 908 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 4: they might have three in the top ten or twelve 909 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 4: like they do. And New England's really bad, really banker 910 00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 4: for them, so I guess I get that. 911 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: I got a text today from a reporter that I 912 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: know in New England who when the New England signed 913 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: Chucks of Corp for was asking me questions about him 914 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: and he said he texted me today. They said Chucks 915 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: of Corps told the Patriots he doesn't want to play 916 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: left tackle. 917 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 4: Ah, okay, they're gonna take a tackle really early in 918 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 4: the draft. 919 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That offense might be the 920 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: worst in the league. Oh, it's gonna be awful. 921 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 4: Carolina's will be better. 922 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: Number four the AFC South, You've got Houston at nine, 923 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: Jacksonville at sixteen, the Colts at twenty, the Titans at 924 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: twenty seven. 925 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 926 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 4: I think I would have the East over them. Still, 927 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 4: I think so too. I mean, I think those three 928 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 4: have a stronger almost than those four, even with New 929 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 4: England not counting. 930 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: And Tennessee's better than New England. 931 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 4: Tennessee's better in New England. I could see Tennessee ending 932 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 4: the season twenty seconds if everything goes right. 933 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I see that. Where are 934 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: you at on Indy? Would they of India twentieth? 935 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 4: I think I'd probably have them higher, like i'd have 936 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 4: them over the Chargers. 937 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we both thought the Chargers were too high. 938 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess that's fair. Would you take 939 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 4: the East of the South in the AFC? 940 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: I think it depends on how you view Jacksonville. Is 941 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: Jacksonville contender? 942 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 4: Are they an above average team? 943 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: Because they seems like a perfectly average right here at sixteen, 944 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: I think. 945 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 4: They're kind of perfectly average. Yeah, okay, so yeah, they're 946 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 4: close splitting hairs there that the Patriot thing hurts bad 947 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 4: at three. 948 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: The NFC North you got detroited green Bay at ten, 949 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,240 Speaker 1: Chicago at nineteen, which might be high, might be high, 950 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: and Minnesota at twenty five. 951 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 4: I would have them over the NFC West. Okay, I 952 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 4: think green Bay's really good. I think Detroit's really good 953 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 4: and basically the same here as the Niners and the Rams. 954 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 4: Would be my fourth pick if we're drafting the eight teams. Yeah, 955 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 4: Arizona is probably my last pick. 956 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: You think they're from Minnesota or under built below Minnesota. 957 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 4: I mean, here's what I think Arizona. I mentioned it 958 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 4: in the fantasy segment. I think Atlanta and Arizona are 959 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 4: gonna play in shootouts. I really like their offenses. I 960 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 4: think they've invested a lot on that side of the ball. 961 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 1: It's hard to name starters on Arizona defense, though, Yeah, 962 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's rough. I think they're gonna be a 963 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: lot of points in those So what you're saying is 964 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: take the overs in those. 965 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 4: Games, overs and Arizona overs. 966 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Uh, they had the NFC West. 967 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: Graziano has the NFC West number two. Yeah, that's San 968 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: Francisco at number one. 969 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 4: Okay, I think the Chiefs are better than Niner. 970 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: The Rams at thirteen, the Seahawks at twenty one, the 971 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals at twenty. 972 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 4: Three, thirteen, twenty three. I mean, like thirteen is your best, 973 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 4: second best team and you're the second best division. Yeah, 974 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 4: Seattle's slightly below average. I mean, I guess I don't 975 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 4: have a true PA. 976 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: He's going strictly by their FPI rating. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 977 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: So San Francisco's five point one FPI rating brings that 978 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: whole division up massively. Not a lot of great news 979 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: there either, No, I mean Trent Williams heard guys holding out. 980 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's just a lot of turmoil right now. Okay. 981 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: I do think the NFC North's better, and at number 982 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: one is the AFC North. That's with Baltimore at three, 983 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,240 Speaker 1: which I don't agree with. He doesn't agree with Baltimore 984 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: at three. Oh really, Yeah, he thinks that's too high 985 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: on that too. That's Cincinnati at seven. He thinks Cincinnati 986 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: should be ahead of Baltimore. I as well both that. Yeah, 987 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: that's with Cleveland at fourteen to Cincinnati's at seven, Cleveland 988 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: at fourteen, the Steelers at seventeen. He thinks he thinks 989 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: their FPI ratings are too low on Cleveland. 990 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 4: I think they're too low in the Steelers. I might 991 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 4: even have Cleveland, and I might have both the whole 992 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 4: division in the top twelve or thirteen. 993 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: I think Cleveland to me right now, with everything that's 994 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: happening there is clearly fourth in the division. They have 995 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: a quarterback that hasn't played in the preseason to not 996 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: because they're holding him out because he can't physically play. 997 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 4: I can't even get on the field. And even if 998 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 4: he's never shown to be good, Yeah, he hasn't been 999 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 4: good since twenty twenty. So I think Baltimore's there three. 1000 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 4: We would have Cinci over Baltimore. 1001 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd have Sinci at like five in Baltimore at 1002 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: like eight or nine. 1003 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 4: I was about to ask you who's your three? Then 1004 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 4: I think mine's Detroit. Yeah, I might even have Green 1005 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 4: Bay ahead of Baltimore. That's a leap of faith with 1006 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 4: their youth, but well, and he said Fbilow wouldn't be 1007 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 4: five for me. 1008 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: This is what Graziano says. The FBI is higher on 1009 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: Baltimore than I am, mainly because I have concerns about 1010 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: the Raven's ability to seamlessly replace three offensive line starters 1011 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: and all the coaches and players they've lost on defense. 1012 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: It's the same reasons why we're a little down on them. Yeah, 1013 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: it's just a lot of turmoil. It's a lot of 1014 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 1: stuff that's not easy to overcome. And I love Lamar. 1015 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,919 Speaker 1: I think he's a wonderful player, but he probably won't 1016 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 1: be the MVP again. 1017 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like he's going to 1018 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 4: be better than he was last night. I mean, chances 1019 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 4: are no, because he was like the best player in 1020 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 4: the league, you know. I mean that's he's probably going 1021 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 4: to be the twentieth best player in the league, not 1022 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 4: the first or second. Yeah, and which is awesome. 1023 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: But and he also mentions Cincinnati's schedule much easier than 1024 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: that of Baltimore. 1025 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 4: True it is. I mean just that the opponents are 1026 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 4: much easier. I would so he agrees since he should 1027 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 4: be the top team of the division, Yeah, yeah, I 1028 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 4: don't think anyone's close to the division though, I mean 1029 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 4: like they're easily number one. 1030 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: Here's what he writes about the Steelers. Okay, if anyone 1031 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: but Mike Tomlin were coaching the Steelers, I'd be a 1032 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: lot lower on them, a lot lower. The FBI ranks 1033 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: him as the nineteenth best offense in the league, which 1034 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: feels a little bit generous based on what we've seen 1035 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: from quarterbacks Russell Wilson and Justin Fields so far in camp. Well, Dan, 1036 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 1: you were at camp one day, you know, and Russell 1037 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: Wilson wasn't practicing that day, I might add. 1038 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the preseason hasn't been pretty what we've 1039 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 4: seen in camp. 1040 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: I hate when guys who haven't been to camp, Yeah, 1041 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: say in camp, right, because you might watch the preseason, 1042 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: you weren't there watching every practice. Pretty sure the coaches 1043 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: aren't sending you the coaches tape of practice either, one 1044 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: hundred percent sure of that. But the nineteenth best offense 1045 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: is a pretty big jump from where it was last year. 1046 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 1: If they're the nineteenth best offense this year in the league, 1047 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers won eleven or twelve games, I agree. 1048 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 4: I agree because I think they'll be good on teams. 1049 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 4: They'll be good on defense, Yeah, and. 1050 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: He says, but they made the playoffs last year with 1051 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett Mason Rudolph playing that position. 1052 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 3: T J. 1053 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: Wattley's defense ranked fifth in the league per FPI. So 1054 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: who am I to doubt? Yeah? 1055 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 4: Everyone says the same thing about Steelers, like, yeah, some 1056 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 4: of these numbers don't add up, you know, just like 1057 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 4: the barn roll thing we did yesterday. They're going to 1058 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 4: probably lose more one score games. But I might be 1059 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 4: totally wrong. I'm wrong every year on them. Yeah, you 1060 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 4: know what I mean? So where do they have them? 1061 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: Nineteenth? No, they were seventeenth. 1062 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 4: The offense was nineteenth. 1063 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: Okay, the offense was nineteen. If they're nineteen on offense 1064 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: in fifth on defense, how the hell are they seventeenth? 1065 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? I was thinking that too. I mean, I'm sure 1066 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 4: offense has a little more weight, but it can't have 1067 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 4: that much more weight. 1068 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: You wouldn't think, And it can't be like where's Cleveland's offense? 1069 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 4: Good question? 1070 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 1: Ranked? 1071 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 4: Does I tell you where all the offense I'm. 1072 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: Calling off their FPI rankings now they have. Cleveland's offense 1073 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: is rated as a minus one point five. The Steelers 1074 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: are minus point nine, So Cleveland's offense much worse than 1075 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: that of Pittsburgh's. 1076 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 4: Considering I don't know how much they value the Chub situation, 1077 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 4: but that hurts them a lot, a lot. I would 1078 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 4: feel really much different about their offense with Chubb and 1079 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 4: are many running backs i'd say that about, yeah, prime Chub. 1080 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not like, oh, he's just start with 1081 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 4: if we ever see that guy again, I don't have 1082 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 4: any clue. Right, if they had the guy that before 1083 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 4: his injury, you can weather a lot of storms with 1084 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 4: that defense. But drum Ford not the same, right right? 1085 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: Not the same playing quarterback? Yeah right, Yeah, you got 1086 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: buy with all those quarterbacks last year because your defense 1087 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: was suffocating. I assume they're going to be that good 1088 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: again this year. Probably not. 1089 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 4: Do they have the D at one? 1090 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 1: Cleveland's defense is I believe second behind Baltimore. 1091 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 4: Baltimore's D was better in my opinion last year, but 1092 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 4: they lost a lot more than Cleveland did. 1093 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, on defense, and Cleveland's defense, including coordinators, depth is 1094 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: not They don't have depth. 1095 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 4: No, they don't rotate fifteen in or anything like that. 1096 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: But are the Bengals D the Bengals D is way 1097 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: down there. 1098 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,479 Speaker 4: I say, I bet it's pretty low. 1099 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: I know we're both high on the Bengals, but I 1100 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: don't let their defense it's not that bad. It's actually 1101 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: three spots behind Pittsburgh, so they're eighth. 1102 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 4: Oh that I don't agree. 1103 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: I don't agree with that at all. 1104 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 4: No, they allowed a lot of explosives. Their tackling was 1105 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 4: really poor. Their run defense was bad. Readers gone. I 1106 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 4: don't think they did much accepted safety to get better. Yeah. 1107 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 4: I think their defense is one of I wouldn't say 1108 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,760 Speaker 4: the weakest unit in of the four in the division 1109 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 4: or eight in the division, but it's near the bottom, 1110 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 4: pretty close. 1111 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt, that's going to do for the show today. 1112 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely appreciate Land and Roberts dropping by and taught chatting 1113 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: with us there for a little while. But we also 1114 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: appreciate you doing the same for my partner, Matt Williamson, 1115 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: for Justin Miller here on site, keeping us on the 1116 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: air and keeping us on a straight line, straight and narrow. 1117 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lallie. We thank you for listening to this 1118 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.