1 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Pop and Packs a segment where I opened 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: an old pack of basketball cards with a person from 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: the NBA World. Today's guest is New York Times bestselling 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: author Shay Serano. Shaye talks about what it was like 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: growing up under a rocket Spurs rivalry, how Reggie Miller 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: became his first favorite player of all time, and how 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Lafonso Ellis had one of the coolest blocks. 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: The NBA has ever seen. 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: It's connecting, It's connecting there, it is Yo Rano, What 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: up Lee Ellis? 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: How's it going? How's Australia, Well, Australia is not too bad. 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Actually feel better than America right now, but that's not 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: really saying much everywhere in America right now? 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: How is sunny San Antonio. 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: Super sonny and terrible? 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: But you're right, we're getting that. Hey, I saw your 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: on the panel recently with George Lopez. 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: That went great. My my family was very excited about 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: that one. That's like the most family response I've ever 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: gotten about a thing I was on because everybody, yeah, 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: George Lopez in the like Mexican community, it's like our 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: George Washington, you know what I'm saying. So they were 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: pumped they were fucking pumped. I didn't even I got 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: messages from uncles who didn't even message me when like 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: Obama shouted me out this one. They were like fucking 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: fired up. Hold on, want second? 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, all right, I've got to ask you. 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: I know, I know Barack Obamas technically shouted you have twice, 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: hasn't he because he recommended oh. 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and then he added you in a tweet. 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: Was it cooler that he did it or the Rock did? 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: At that time? Which one? 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: The Rock? The Rock? The Rock was in fast five, 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: So the Rock is going to win that, right, it 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: goes the Rock, you know, it goes like all time 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: order miss Elliott when she tweeted at me, then the Rock, 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: and then Obama. That's my that's the three. That's tough. 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: There's not many people be third on someone's list of 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: people who tweeted him. But but but that's great. 40 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: And listen, it's great today because I've got my I've 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: got my man Genobili. 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, today's anniversary. 43 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, his very first game against the Lakers. 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: Too, And I mean, what what a guy, what a 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: career he had. I mean, he's you know, well, he's 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: probably my fourth favorite all time. I've got Jordan Keem, 47 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: Elijah Wan, Isaiah Thomas, and then Mono Genobili. 48 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: I mean it's hard for him, he's. 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: That high and that's incredible. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 50 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 3: very very It's a very solid top four. 51 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: Speaking, very solid. There's a there's a huge day coming 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: up on Tuesday. 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: Huge day, of course, it's going to impact not just 54 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: America in the world. 55 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: What do you what are you feeling? What are you 56 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: thinking is going to happen on November three? 57 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: There? Oh, I think that Trump is going to lose, 58 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: and then I think he's going to try and do 59 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: some fucked up shit to not have lost, you know. Yeah, 60 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 3: So there's no there's honestly no talent. 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's it's gonna be crazy the next two months. 62 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: No matter what happens. We just have to hope that 63 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: some sort of sensibility there prevails. Early voting is opened, 64 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: I guess in Texas. Have you guys been out and 65 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: voted yet? 66 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 67 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Larnim and I went. We had to go like 68 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: in separate shifts because we're still doing the social distancing thing. 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 3: We don't want to take the kids to the place, 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: so you know, awesome. 71 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: Okay, well listen, why we're here is because I've got 72 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: a pack of Flea n ninety six basketball cars. 73 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: I love it. 74 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: That's right in your alleyway, I believe, isn't it. 75 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: That's right in there anything In the nineties, that's where 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: I was like coming of age as all right. 77 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: All right, well, who are you hoping for? Who you're 78 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: hoping we get today? 79 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: Oh? I want all the big names. I feel like 80 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: we're going to get a not big names, We're gonna 81 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: get a bunch of That was like a good error 82 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: for tall white guys. Yeah, couldn't do much but be tall. 83 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: I feel like we're going to a couple of those. 84 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: But I want to, you know, I want to I 85 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: want to Barkley, I want to Jordan. I want to 86 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: David Robinson. Anybody on the Spurs would be awesome. 87 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's let's see what we've got. 88 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: This first guy is a good one actually, because this 89 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: guy was known as a quiet player sort of baby 90 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: says this baby faced assassin throughout his career. But in 91 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: the last dance, which we saw in the summer, he 92 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: actually had one of his best moments going against Michael Jordan, 93 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: where he hit. He hit a game ceiling shot in 94 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs and then started talking his trash to Michael Jordan, 95 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: and not many people get to do that, but he didn't. 96 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: Jordan ended up killing him in the series. But this guy, 97 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: he broke character. 98 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 3: I'll say, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh wait, I'm supposed to 99 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: guess who it is. 100 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh that's. 101 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: My guy from the Magic bj when he was under. 102 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Magic bj Armstrong. He was on the bulls in this 103 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: particular one. But yeah, I thought that was a I 104 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: thought that was a really awesome moment in the last 105 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: Dance when you see bj Armstrong talking smack in Chicago 106 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: to Michael Jordan. 107 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's super cool. That's like a thing. You know, 108 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 3: people always ask, what are the uh, what's the time? 109 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: You wish that Twitter was around for NBA stuff? That 110 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: would have been. That would have been a fucking great one, 111 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 3: because everybody on Twitter, NBA Twitter anyway, we like love 112 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: to celebrate all of them, you know, the players who 113 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: come through and just do godly type things like that 114 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: somebody catches fire and Lebron in this most recent playoff 115 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: run in the finals or whatever. That's always fun to do. 116 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: But it loses its fucking absolute mind when a player 117 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: on like a tier or two below, Yeah, something does 118 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: something great and then like talk shit about it. Like 119 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: if we would have got to see this one, it 120 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: would have been fucking nuts, just absolute nuts, because especially 121 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: they had already you know, the conversation starts up very quickly, like, 122 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: oh shit, are they gonna lose again? 123 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 124 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: You know, you know what I'm saying. It would have 125 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: been I like as. 126 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: Well, that how BJ conan you that that was probably 127 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: the only wa he was gonna get. 128 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: But he made sure he he catched all these cheap things. 129 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta live live in the moment. Nobody's 130 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: gonna nobody's gonna talk about the time you hit a 131 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: game winner and didn't say anything exactly. Yeah, you know 132 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: you've got it. You've got a letted fire when you 133 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: can all. 134 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: Right, one for one good start. 135 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: Now this next guy, it's interesting the team he's playing 136 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: for here is the first team he played on, but 137 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: not a lot of people remember him on this team. 138 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: He's playing for the Denver Nuggets. 139 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: He spent most of his career, or his best years anyway, 140 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: in Indiana, played for Toronto and Chicago. 141 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: I think he ended in Phoenix. A left handed shooter. 142 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: He's made a very good career in the media since 143 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: retiring from the NBA. Sometimes has a baseball bat with 144 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: him when he's on uh, when he's on TV, A 145 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: lefty I last year out. 146 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: Oh okay, let me let me. I don't know how 147 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: much of that you heard, So I started again. Here. 148 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: This guy he's playing for the Denver Nuggets on this team. 149 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: But you don't really remember him on the Nuggets. Most 150 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: people will remember him on the Indiana Paces. He also 151 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: played for the Chicago Bulls, the Raptors, and he ended 152 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: with the Phoenix Suns, and he's made a very good 153 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: career in the media since retiring from the NBA. 154 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: That's my guy, Jalen, Right, yeah, Jalen, that's him. That's him. 155 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: Where is it there we go, Denver Nuggets Jalen Rose. 156 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even remember that he played on the 157 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: on the Nuggets. Like that was not a thing I 158 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: had in my in my head from it. Yeah. 159 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: I think I think he played two seasons there, but 160 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: he was like a rookie and then you know, like 161 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: he just didn't get much didn't get much burn. 162 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: Out there and when he went to Indiana. 163 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: That was when he was obviously that was one of 164 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: the best days of his career anyway. 165 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: So oh yeah, he was awesome in Indiana. I loved 166 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: him on the with Reggie. 167 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 168 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he made an All Star Game, but 169 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: he must have been close there around around the year 170 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousand and one when the Pacers 171 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: were pretty good and he was you know, he was 172 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: second or third best player on that team. 173 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: Anyway. 174 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's fucking cool. I meet I got 175 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: to meet him one time. He was super nice. 176 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: Nice, all right. 177 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: This next guy interesting, this guy because I'm pretty sure 178 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: he's the only player to represent this South American country 179 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: when he played. He played mainly for the Rockets, but 180 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: he also played for the Spurs. 181 00:07:59,680 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: He was. 182 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: I think he's from Venezuela. I think that's where he was. 183 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: He was from a bit of a tough guy, bit 184 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: of a stocky guy, like a power forward slash small forward. 185 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: And uh yeah, he would have been. 186 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: He would have been one of the few Spanish speaking 187 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: dudes I think in the NBA at the time, and 188 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: pretty sure no one else has represented Venezuela before. 189 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: Oh I don't think I know that guy. Who is 190 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: that guy? 191 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: Carl Herrera? Oh Carl Herrera, God, dog it. Do you 192 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: remember him on the Spurs? Yeah? I remember him on 193 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: the Spurs. 194 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: I don't know why I didn't think of Carl Herrera, 195 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: you know, you know, you know what it is. I 196 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: try to block out everybody from those teams, right because 197 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: everybody just talks shit to me about him. For you know, 198 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: San Antonio, we don't like each other. So every every 199 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: time I like start tweeting about the Spurs or whatever, 200 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: somebody starts sending me tweets from the fucking mid nineties Rockets. Listen, 201 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: if any of your Rockets fans are in the chat 202 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 3: right now, you can't send me fucking gifts that aren't 203 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: in HD. 204 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: Like, that doesn't matter. It's too far. 205 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: That's too far back a quarter a quarter of a 206 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: century and you're fucking still talking ship. Get out of it. 207 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 3: But I blocked out Carl Herrera, I blocked out Vernon Maxwell, 208 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: Mario Eli. 209 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: I kept Mario Elli in my head because he won 210 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: us a. 211 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: Title in nineteen nine. Drexler, fucking Sam Casel, Sam Cazel 212 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: is cool. Yeah, teams whatever. 213 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, So if they played for the Rockets. And I'm 214 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: matter apart from Mario Eli. If they played for the Spurs, 215 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: that's it. You can't you know, they're out of your lodge. 216 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: X amount x them out of here. They're awesome. 217 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: That's like a good like that that mid mid nineties 218 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: Rockets team, super cool team for everybody except for San 219 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: Antonio and San Antonio. 220 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: No thanks, what a bit. 221 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: Then that dia Keem Elijah Wan did the did the 222 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: dirty to David Robinson in San Antonio. 223 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: You don't remember that one. 224 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. I wouldn't watching it. 225 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 3: I wouldn't watch TV at the time, so I don't know. 226 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: I don't know anything that you're right now. 227 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well, you're definitely going to know this next guy, 228 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: because from what I've seen online, I'm pretty sure this 229 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: was your first sort of hero of the NBA. 230 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: This is your first the first guy you liked the most. 231 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: Did you get a Reggie in the pack? I got 232 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: a Reggie. Yeah, that's destiny right there. 233 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: Of all of the packs, of all of the years, 234 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: you came through with a Reggie. I don't know if 235 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 3: I believe that this really happened, though, I think you 236 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: might be messing with me here? 237 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: How did how did that come about? 238 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: You know, you know obviously your first fan, but Reggie was. 239 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: The was the first player that you were your first 240 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,359 Speaker 1: hero and. 241 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: He was write the forward for your book, wasn't it? 242 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, he was like he was the first person 243 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 3: I thought of, the first person that I wanted to 244 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: ask to do the forward. Kristin ledlow Thanky thankfully. I 245 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: hit her up and I was like, hey, I know, 246 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: like I see y'all talking. Can you like I'm trying 247 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: to make this happen, can you do it? And she 248 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: was just like, it'll get done, give me a minute. 249 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: And then like a couple of days later, I was 250 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: on the phone. Reggie Miller's fucking outrageous. Yeah, he's my favorite, 251 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: first first basketball player I ever fell in love with, 252 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: the one who really made me like fall in love 253 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: with with the NBA. You know, everybody has a player 254 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: like that, the first one that really got into their 255 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: end of their chest. 256 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: Bow with Reggie. 257 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: What it was was, I grew up in San Antonio. 258 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: I've been going to Spurs games my whole life, you know. Uh. 259 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: I was born in eighty one, so by like eighty 260 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: five eighty six, my Dad has taking me to the 261 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: games and I'm watching the Spurs, and the Spurs have. 262 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: Even that far back, had like a very i don't 263 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: know what you call it. 264 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: For their reputation, you know, the reputation the Spurs have. 265 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: They're just like freaking like they're like the military, Like 266 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: who's you know what I'm saying. 267 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like that was the basketball that I knew. 268 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: We had. Our superstar was David Robinson. 269 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:51,239 Speaker 3: Super tall, super fucking handsome, and Christian and like very straight. 270 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: Down the line, never talked shit or anything. 271 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: So there's the only type of basketball that I knew 272 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: because that was the only type basketball I was watching. 273 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: And then like I saw a game with Reggie they 274 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 3: would do like on Sundays or on the weekends, you 275 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: get like a game on NBC or whatever, and I 276 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: saw I watched the game in red you was playing, 277 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: and he just stood out immediately because he was running 278 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: his mouth the whole time, shoving people and talking shit. 279 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: And I just thought he was the coolest guy in 280 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: the world when I saw him doing that. And then 281 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 3: I just I was like trying to make sure from 282 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: that point forward watching the playoffs, because Indiana was usually 283 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: in there. You get to see him even more. This 284 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: was before there was like NBA League Pass or anything 285 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: like that, so I could only watch the games that 286 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: showed up on TV. I could only read the stories 287 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: that showed up, you know, in Sports Illustrated or whatever magazine. 288 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: I could only get pieces of it, and it just 289 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: sort of built him up more and more in my head. 290 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just thought he was the fucking coolest dude. 291 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: I was talking. 292 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: Talking is my favorite thing in basketball, like the number 293 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: one thing, and he was. I just loved him for it. 294 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: I loved him. 295 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: You it's pretty funny that he's not even the best 296 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: basketball player and his family all though. 297 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: That's that's pretty. 298 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's outrageous. Yeah that's outrageous. Like he has such 299 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: an unbelievable story of like he had to wear the 300 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 3: braces on his legs. Yeah, he's just got like, this's 301 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: a whole fucking aura about him that I I just loved. 302 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: I just loved. I especially loved that he was never 303 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: the best player of like his generation, because he was 304 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: he was in the same era with Jordan, but he 305 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: was fucking not scared of anybody of anybody. He was 306 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: trying to kill every single person who got on the 307 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: court with him, And that to me was cool because 308 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: there are some players who like they play that way 309 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: and you can tell, like Reggie Miller has never missed 310 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: a shot because he was afraid. Ever he's missed, He's 311 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: missed a bunch of shots, but never because he was afraid. 312 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: And I love players like that, especially because I'm the 313 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: exact opposite. Like if I get if I'm playing a 314 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: basketball game and it gets close, I started short arming everything, 315 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 3: gon't pass me the ball because I'm not you know 316 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like I don't want it, but Reggie, 317 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: Reggie wants it. So I was always drawn to those players. 318 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: So that that incident, they like, we'd spark that must 319 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: be one of your top like two or three moments 320 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: in NBA history. 321 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: I was. I was so fucking fired up. I didn't 322 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: even know. I didn't even know who Spike Lee was 323 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: at the time. I was like fifteen years old or whatever. 324 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: When it happened. I didn't know anything. Yeah yet all 325 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 3: I knew was he was talking to someone in the 326 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: crowd and the announcers were eating it up, and I 327 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: was like, yes, I've never seen anything like that. 328 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. 329 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: And then you know, for him to write that in 330 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: your book, I mean that must have just been like 331 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: just an incredible moment, Like, you know, for your story 332 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: to get to that point where you're talking to Reggie 333 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: and then he wrote the book. I mean, that's just 334 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: it's just a great story. It's really it's really fun 335 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: to say. It's really cool. 336 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: And then the book goes on to be a New 337 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: York Times bestseller as well. 338 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was really I was very proud when that happened. 339 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: But I was especially proud when Reggie decided to do 340 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: that or agreed to do that, Like, I mean, it's 341 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: like a childhood hero and you get to talk to 342 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: this person. And what was really cool was he was 343 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: like super fucking cool about the whole process. We talked 344 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: on the phone for like over an hour when he 345 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: was just like, you know, happy to talk about it. 346 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: The same thing happened with the rap book or with 347 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: the music book, I mean the movie book. I get 348 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: to talk to these people who I just like have 349 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: looked up to since I was a kid, and each 350 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: time it's turned out they've been super fucking cool. It's great. 351 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: It's really cool. 352 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: Have you ever met Reggie or shot around with him anywhere, Like, 353 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: has that ever happened anytime? 354 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: I've never met any of them in person? 355 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: Oh right, right, Okay, Well this next guy, he was 356 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: a San Antonio Spur briefly, and in fact, I think 357 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: he became the first player to hit a thousand threes 358 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: in the NBA, and he did it when he was 359 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: a San Antonio Spur. One of the first shop shoots 360 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: d Ellis d Ellis. I love dell Yeah, del Yeah. 361 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: He was again like Reggie, he's a three point shooter. Also, 362 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: I really what I really liked aboutdll Ellis was he 363 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: had a fucking a flat top that just thought was great. 364 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, he was one of those ones who showed 365 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: up in San Antonio and he was perfect for San Antonio. 366 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: He all he wanted to do was fucking get some 367 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: shots up, and it felt like he hit everything and 368 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: it was just it was just cool because this was 369 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: back before three pointers were like a thing. Yeah, and 370 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: so to see somebody shooting more than one in a game, 371 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: you just lost your mind about it. He was. He 372 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: was really really popular in San Antonio. 373 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: He had one of the best All Star Game weekends 374 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: ever for a guy who only ever made. 375 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: One All Star Weekend. He started both of it. 376 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, he started, scored twenty seven points for the West. 377 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: I think he won the three point shootout too. It 378 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: was in eighty nine in Houston. 379 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: I think all Miami he made. It was in Miami 380 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: and that was it. That was the only time he 381 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: ever made an All Star Game. But he catched in. 382 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: That's probably the life average. 383 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: That's becoming the theme of our episode here is like 384 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: guys who made the most of their moment. Yeah and 385 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: d J Armstrong, Yeah, Rechi millerdell out Yeah, where on it? 386 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 387 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: All right, This next guy interesting guy because his career 388 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: started off really hot in Milwaukee. 389 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: He was a big guy. He was like six', ten 390 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: and then he moved To. Seattle he got traded To. 391 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: Seattle he made An All Star game, then but then 392 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: his career kind of petered. 393 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: OUT i think he had a few few issues there 394 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: with drugs and things like. 395 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: That but for about three or four, years they're really 396 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: really good player in THE. 397 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: Nba but injuries and uh and a few other things caught. 398 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: Up with him and, uh, yeah mainly you probably think 399 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: of him As milwaukee And. 400 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: SEATTLE i think at the end of his career. 401 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: He might have had as as a ben are we 402 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: talking about The, yeah, YEAH i Remember. Van, yeah he 403 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: was one of those ones who was like the you 404 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: talk to some kids in school, who, again you can 405 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: only watch the games that are ON tv And San 406 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 3: antonio and there were not a lot Of bucks, games 407 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 3: so you maybe sign like once or twice a season if, 408 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: that and he would just fucking kill and you were 409 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: convinced he's the best player on the, planet and then 410 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: like a couple of years later you, realize, oh you, 411 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: know maybe, not maybe. Not, yeah he was really. Good. 412 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: YEAH a few a few guys have that, though where 413 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: for like three or four, years you know they're just you, 414 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: know they're totally, dominant and then whether it's injuries or 415 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: just you, know wrong, team wrong coach or, whatever then 416 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: their career just kind of sort of fades. AWAY i, 417 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: mean Day lellis was a little bit like that, too 418 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: because he was In. Alice you, know he couldn't get 419 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: Any burnie ghost to Sea attelie beat averages twenty seven a, 420 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: game and then he sort of just bounced around as 421 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: a bit of a. Journeyman but you, know some of 422 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: those guys like four or five, years they're just on 423 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: top of the league and that's, it and then you, 424 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: know then they just move. 425 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: On AND i Think Vin baker was another one of those. 426 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: Guys, YEAH i thought for a, SECOND i thought it 427 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: for a second that was going to Be Glenn robinson 428 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: around With. 429 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: Glenn. 430 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah and another guy similar to, that you, know 431 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: like number, one picking ninety. FOUR i think he. Was 432 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: and he ended his career In San, antonio IF i. 433 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: REMEMBER i don't know if he played much at the end, 434 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: there but he was he was on that roster. 435 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: Anyway, yeah he came through it for a. 436 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: Bit don't go. 437 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: Anywhere i'll be back with more of popping packs With 438 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: Chase rano right after. This all, Right this next guy 439 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: is good one because there's a CHAPTER i think in 440 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: Your basketball And Other things book about this guy who 441 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: had who had he had a bad, moment. 442 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: A bad Oh Nick. Anderson oh, man. 443 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah ah. MAN i feel bad for this guy cause 444 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: he was a good. Player he was a good, shooter good, 445 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: player but those free. Throws his career never recovered from. Those, yeah, 446 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: dude it Was excuse. 447 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: Me what was really crazy or really interesting was he 448 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 3: Was he's one of the few guys who has like 449 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: talked about how a moment shifted everything for, him is 450 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 3: HE i think he was shooting excuse. 451 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: ME i think he was shooting like seventy something. 452 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 3: Percent from the free throw line that, year and then 453 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: he missed them shots and it plummeted a like forty something, 454 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: percent and and he talked about it, afterwards a bout 455 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: how he couldn't get out out of his head and 456 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 3: it's just like it was. Crazy, now if he makes 457 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: one of, those history probably looks completely. 458 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: Different, YEAH i, MEAN i think The rockets probably still 459 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: win that, series but it could have gone to six even, 460 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: seven you, know because that just sucked the life out 461 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: of them losing that. 462 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: And, yeah he, oh, man like what? What just a tragic. 463 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: MOMENT i, mean imagine that happened in the now era 464 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: of social media like we had about. 465 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: It, yeah that would that would ass. 466 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: Him you. Know we used to work With kenny The 467 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: Jet smith that At turner, there AND i remember talking 468 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: to The jet about that game BECAUSE i think he 469 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: had seven. 470 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 2: Frees and he was talking his. 471 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: Trash he was talking his trash after that, game, saying you, 472 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: know LIKE i, KNEW i knew he was gonna MISS 473 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: i knew he was gonna miss AND i was going 474 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 1: to hit those threes as. 475 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, dude what so that That orlando, team they 476 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: they were super super. 477 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: Young when all that was. 478 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: HAPPENING i think if that was a veteran, TEAM i 479 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: think they would Have they think we would have caught 480 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: them a couple years. Later they would have been more 481 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 3: of a. Series but, yeah after they lost that first 482 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: game like, that because they were up like twenty, yeah, 483 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 3: yeah and everything fell apart and they're just too young 484 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 3: to be able to get their feedback under. Them it 485 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: was like like when you see a young fighter and 486 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: boxing who takes a heavy shot early on and for 487 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 3: the rest of like whatever the rounds, are he just 488 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: can't get it. Together that's what they looked. Like it 489 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: was LIKE i couldn't do nothing with. 490 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: It, yeah that WAS i JUST i feel bad for 491 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: him because when he misses those first, two you, think 492 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, what like not the end of the. World 493 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: then he gets the rebound and then he goes and 494 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: does it. Again he's just, like oh my, god like my. 495 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: GOD i just. 496 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 3: You can always see you can always see on their. 497 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: Faces they like do the close up when they're shooting 498 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: And you're, like you don't want any part of this. 499 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: Moment oh, yeah, yeah yeah he had. That he had that. 500 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: Look George hill had that look When calves and The warriors. Played, 501 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: Yeah John starks had that. Look yeah you know What i'm, 502 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 3: Saying like you can see, it you can always see. 503 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: It Mark. 504 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: Jackson Mark jackson's talked about that With John starks, before 505 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: saying he did not want any part of those free. 506 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: Throws you can. 507 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: TELL i mean that would be that would be. Me 508 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: i'm take me out of the. Game i'm a Third 509 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: i'm a third quarter. Player coach in the fourth quarter 510 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 3: IF i can get me, out all. 511 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: Right this next guy. 512 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: He actually did end up playing for The San Antonio, 513 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: spurs but his best DAYS i think we were in 514 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: The lakers in the mid, nineties AND i think you 515 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 1: would probably like this. 516 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: GUY i think you. 517 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: WOULD i think you would like watching him because he 518 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: was fun to. Watch it was only a small. GUY 519 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: i know You, Nick nick, quick there you, go fucking on, fire, Dude, yeah, yeah, 520 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: yeah he was. 521 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: Great he HAD i think it was With. Spurs it 522 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: might have been with The. Mavericks he had forty off 523 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: the bench. 524 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: In a playoff game one DAY i can't who that was, 525 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: four but uh, yeah but uh he was. 526 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: Awesome. 527 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: MAN i would love him to be playing in the 528 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: in THE nba right now as. WELL i, think, UH 529 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: i think he'd have a game that would adapt because 530 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: he could hit those. Threes he was, quick a lot of. 531 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: Scoring love to get out there and. RUN i think 532 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: he'd be perfect for today's. 533 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: Game, yeah he would be really. Great nick Van exel 534 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: is one, of if you're putting like a list, together 535 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: one of the COOLEST nba players of all. TIME i 536 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 3: remember he showed up like in a rap video or. 537 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: Two he had the little cut out of his. Eyebrow 538 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: he the Fucking mexicans loved him because he wore the 539 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: socks that came up to his. Knees we were that 540 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 3: convinced he was part Of Mexican he here's how here's 541 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 3: how Likable nick Van exel was as a. Player he 542 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: eventually went and he played With, dallas and he played 543 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: With dallas during the two thousand and three. Season two 544 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: thousand and, three so they've played The spurs and the 545 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 3: playoffs and he was giving us the fucking. Business and 546 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 3: normally that's like all THAT i need to hate a. Player, 547 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 3: YEAH i just couldn't hate anck van. Xll he was 548 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: just two, core just too fucking. 549 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: Core he was. 550 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 3: Great, YEAH i think you're. Right he would do wonderful and. 551 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: Today, YEAH i think he might have then had that 552 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: forty off the bench against The. Spurs then it might 553 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: it might have been for The mavericks against The. 554 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: Spurs i'm. 555 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: TRYING i can't think of the, game BUT i remember 556 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: he was just a bucket when he came out. There 557 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: AND i especially love those, guys you, know five eleven 558 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: six foot and they can just go out there in 559 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: traffic and hit those little jump. 560 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: Shots and that's what's. 561 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: CRAZY i, mean you, know FOR us, guys FOR us 562 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: normal sized, guys when you see AN nba player up 563 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: up close in, person you're, like, man these guys are. 564 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: Huge and then when you see a guy who your 565 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: eye level with and you're, like this dude's in THE. 566 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: Nba how Come i'm not in THE. Nba you. 567 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: Know that's that's exactly HOW i felt WHEN i SAW. J. 568 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: J barrera in, PERSON Jj, brea he is, me AND 569 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 3: i was, like this fucking, guy he looks just like 570 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: all my. Cousins, yeah in THE nba and we're. Not 571 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: and then it turned, out, oh because he's super talented 572 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: and we are Supern can. 573 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: You imagine, though what it must have been like for 574 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: him when he was playing against his friends in high 575 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: school and stuff, like he must have just been like 576 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: dropping sixty points on those. 577 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: Guys tried it forget about. It, yeah all, right you're doing. 578 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: WELL a couple more to go, here three more to. 579 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: Go this guy has been in the news recently BECAUSE 580 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: i think, TOMORROW i think. 581 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: He opens his Own sean. Camp yeah, Right Sean. 582 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 3: Camp. There he is excellent In. 583 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: Seattle there is opening his own, dispensary which is great 584 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: news for him and great news for the people Of. 585 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 3: Seattle this Isn't this is like a super strong pack 586 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: that we got. Here, yeah this is like an outrageous 587 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 3: is an all star? Pack? Yeah sean kempers, great the 588 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: all time great, dunks one of the all time great 589 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: post dunk, celebrations just sucking. Outstanding he's another one who 590 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: would be great today. 591 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: As far as disrespectful. DUNKS i, mean you. 592 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: Know he's up, there he's up. 593 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: There what about what about the other dunk that he has? 594 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: THERE i think it's. 595 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: Over Chris gatling is it maybe Well Victor alexander where 596 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: then he then he WAPs him up after he just Du, yeah. 597 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: He dunked on so hard That Chris gatlin was, like 598 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: let me go ahead and give you let me shake your. 599 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: Hand that's ALL i do in that. 600 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: Situation like we Saw lebron dap Up Paul george When 601 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: Paul george smashed one. 602 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: Over The, birdman but that wasn't On. 603 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: LEBRON i, mean it's crazy to be the guy who 604 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: gets actually dunked, on who's, like. 605 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, man that was. AWESOME i love. 606 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: THAT i feel LIKE i remember one year when The 607 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 3: nets and The lakers played in the, playoffs and this 608 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 3: was when they Had todd mccallaugh at, Center AND i 609 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 3: might be making this, up BUT i feel, like remember this. 610 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: Happening and he was doing an interview because he was 611 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 3: like a funny, guy, yeah and they were asking, him you, 612 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: know how do you plan to Guard shack download you, 613 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 3: Know shack as a. Monster he's, like at this, point 614 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: he's the most dominant player in the, league one of 615 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 3: the most dominant all, time and he said something, like 616 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: my plan is to just get him in the, post 617 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: have him back me down and then dunk on me 618 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 3: AND i you, know when a player could just accept. 619 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 3: It nobody talks about The Chris gatling dunk because afterward 620 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: he was, like you got me a good. Job everybody 621 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: talks about the mister dunk because like he. Didn't it's 622 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: just what are you gonna? 623 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: Do so let me ask you, this, then if you 624 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: could choose one a dunk like you, Know seawan camp 625 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: on on On Olton lister or pipping On Patrick, EWING 626 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 1: i know that's obviously one of the big ones as, 627 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: well or hitting like a game a, game a game 628 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: winning three pointer in front of the opposition bench in the. 629 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: Playoffs, OH i wanted to, Dunk like hitting a game 630 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 3: winning three is. Cool we get celebrated as a, team 631 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: But i'm too. SELFISH i want like my own moment 632 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: that is just on YouTube, forever AND i just want 633 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: to Fucking. Yeah the pip and, dunk especially The sean 634 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: Camp balton listed, dunk is like it's really really. Good 635 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 3: but they didn't have a ton of backstory, there right 636 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 3: the pisson with the you, know the Ewing pip and. 637 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: Dunk there was like seven years of just hate Boy. 638 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: Lodge everybody forgets that was the, Here Michael jordan was 639 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: out of. 640 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: There someone's Like pippen's. 641 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 3: Team uh they were they were fighting trying to stay 642 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: in the, playoffs and he just fucking, Yeah LIKE i. 643 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 3: WOULD i. 644 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: WOULD i would love to dunk On kevin. O'Connor i. 645 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 3: WOULD i would, pay like real actual. 646 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 2: MONEY i would pay ten. 647 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: Thousand dollars cash right, now IF i, could like pay. 648 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: Somebody they give me a, PILL i take the pill 649 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: and then it gives me one one. DUNK i. WOULD 650 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 3: i would gladly pay that. Dude we used play basketball 651 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: this place In San antonio Called Sun Valley, elementary which 652 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 3: like in one of in the neighborhood WHERE i grew, 653 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: up and it was like you weren't supposed to play. 654 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: There they had like the fence that was all set up, 655 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: whatever but you could just crawl into the fence and 656 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: they have barbed wire on the, top but you could 657 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: go underneath it because it was like a gap. 658 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: There and so we would go play. 659 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 3: There but because it was in elementary, school all the 660 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 3: goals were only eight feet tall by like seventh or eighth, 661 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: grade everybody could dunk on, him and we thought we 662 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: were fucking. 663 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 2: Awesome it was was. 664 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: OUTRAGEOUS i was, like they had full court, there but 665 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 3: it's outside on the pavement and it wasn't an official full, 666 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 3: court so it's like it was like two hundred feet 667 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 3: from side from one side to the other right and 668 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: also the court they were like they were angled at 669 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: it just horrible. 670 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: Like but instead it didn't matter because we just wanted to. 671 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: Dunk we just wanted to. 672 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: Dunk you. 673 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: Know Kevin garnett as, well when we used to work 674 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: with him At, tana he was telling a story about 675 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: how in the summer, months some of his friends wanted 676 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: to play against, him so they would do the same 677 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: thing in lower the hoop so they could dunk, on 678 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: like try to dunk On Kevin, garnett you, know like 679 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: because he's their. Buddy Kevin ganet loved playing those guys 680 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: because he's these were all, like oh, man they they're 681 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: playing against, me and they're getting some dunks off as, 682 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: well which is which is. 683 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: Awesome WHEN i got to, GO i was at THE 684 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: t AND t studios when when we did that show, 685 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: together yeah, yeah. 686 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: And then they like asked me to stay in the 687 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: next night to do some other. 688 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: Stuff BUT i was sitting around waiting in the lounge, 689 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 3: area just trying to not be starstruck by like all 690 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: of the players or, yeah having walking through AND i 691 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: was sitting there in mind my business And Kevin garnett. 692 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: Came but you could hear him like six rooms down 693 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: before he was in the, hallway AND i was, like, 694 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: oh that was Was it was so exciting to See Kevin. 695 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: GARNETT i was, LIKE i was incredibly. 696 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: Pumped he he never ever stopped talking, ever and there 697 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: like you're, saying there Sometimes i'd walk past like his, 698 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: uh his make up room or, whatever and there's no 699 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: one in there and he's just still. Talking it's, like 700 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: who you talking, To, keV you? Know and he was 701 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: great a. 702 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: Bit Uh. Yeah he was one of those guys THAT 703 00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: i thought he. 704 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: Was ACTUALLY i wish That Kevin garnett off camera was 705 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: the guy that they could put on, camera because on 706 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: CAMERA i felt he was a little bit sort of. 707 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: Restraint he was trying to sort of be within, himself 708 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: trying to hold it. 709 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 3: In huh. 710 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah but when the when the camera wasn't, rolling he 711 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: had some of the best stuff in the studio there 712 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: because it was just he was just like this is 713 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: this is? 714 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: Me, man this is me and, uh that was awesome 715 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: to give him a show ON hbo and just let 716 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: him go. 717 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: Nuts Tim, Duncan. 718 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah interesting because we kind of talked about this guy 719 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: and he's the one guy that you give a pass 720 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: to that even though he was A Houston, rocket he 721 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: played for The San antonio Sport. 722 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: Yo oh, yeah oh, yeah there he. 723 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: Is that's my. Guy that's my guy right. There, no 724 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 3: he really, Like i'm not playing around WHEN i say 725 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: he won us a championship because early in the season 726 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: the team was, playing they were playing, terrible and we 727 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: Had mario and we had never had a guy THAT 728 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: i could remember do. 729 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: This but he was like in the news talking shit about. 730 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: The, spurs like what, Doing we're not tough, Enough we're not, 731 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: this we're not, that we're where we should be the 732 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 3: best team in the league and we're. Not and then 733 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 3: after he did, that they fucking took. Off, dude there's 734 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: a if you watch this is like how much of 735 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 3: a basketball nerd THAT i am about all this? Stuff 736 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 3: but if you watch the nineteen ninety nine is ON 737 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: vhs and then later moved TO, dvd The spurs championship 738 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: thing that they put out whenever team wins the, title 739 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: and if you watch, it they like talk about this exact, 740 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: thing but they show a clip Of Mario ellie, dunking 741 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: like coming through the baseline and he dunks and it's 742 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: like it's not quite slow motion, clip but slow enough 743 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 3: and just all down his back and, shoulders his muscles 744 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: and it just SO i remember seeing that as a 745 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 3: kid and being, like oh, fuck this guy must be 746 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 3: the strongest. Guy and they were just ripped because he 747 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: was hanging off of the. Rim that's, Great Mario elie's ast. 748 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: Him he's. 749 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: Great, Yeah, yeah he's. 750 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: Awesome i'm been trying to get him to come on, 751 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: this BUT i haven't heard back from him, yet but 752 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: hopefully i'll get him on this soon BECAUSE i think 753 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: he's got some great stories to tell because you, know 754 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: being a role player on those teams and like what 755 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: you're saying, now you, know like he's he's around those, 756 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: teams he's not afraid to, say to speak his mind and. 757 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: Clutch he always delivered in the in the big moment. Set, yeah, 758 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: Exactly that's WHAT i. Mean like you think about hitting 759 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: that three pointer in the game seven on the, road 760 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: and then you just. 761 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: Turn that bench and yeah that was that's what you're. 762 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: Saying. 763 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: YEAH i think that was part of the reason when 764 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 3: he talked ship that everybody listened to him because he 765 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: had already been through. It he'd been through the. Wars, 766 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: yeah we didn't have anybody like that who Had so 767 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: he starts talking and this is Like David robinson's got 768 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: to listen To Mario. Ellie you know What i'm. 769 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: Saying, yeah, yeah, yeah all, right next the next. 770 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: One, here this, guy he's got one of the coolest 771 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: blocks of all. 772 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: Time Defanzoe ELLIS i already know the what you're talking. About, yeah, yeah, 773 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: yeah who is? 774 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: It who is? It who goes? 775 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: UP i can't even remember who that. Is who goes 776 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: up and tries to block? Him, oh he tries to 777 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: dunk on. 778 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: HIM i THINK i think it. 779 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: Was was It Robert? Pack was It Robert? Pack was? 780 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 3: It? 781 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: YEAH i can't, remember but, uh he just catches, it 782 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: rolls it in his, arm and then he just sort 783 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: of stays. 784 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: It bounds and it's, like, man what an awesome block that. 785 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: Is like, that that's one that just still holds, up 786 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: holds the test of. 787 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: Time, yeah he was he. WAS i saw that one 788 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 3: like they would show the basketball highlights in the morning 789 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 3: before the bus would, come and SO i was watching 790 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: it and that like that's HOW i. SAW i didn't 791 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: see it when the game. HAPPENED i just thought the 792 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: next day and, YEAH i remember he just stops the 793 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: mid air and then holds it like behind his back 794 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 3: and LOKs forward and you're. 795 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: Like mother the, fuck. 796 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: This is. OUTRAGEOUS i, MEAN i don't remember who who 797 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 3: the block was on, though it was either On Robert 798 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: pack Or Robert pack had a similar kind of. 799 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: Block, yeah they were probably teammates as. Well oh, yeah you, KNOW. 800 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if it Was Isaiah. Ryder Maybe Isaiah 801 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: rider sort of is popping into my head for. Reason 802 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: maybe someone in the in the. 803 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: Chat notes who someone looked that. 804 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: Up, yeah, yeah hey, man that was. 805 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: Awesome you you pretty much cleaned the deck. 806 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: THEN i you, KNOW i don't think there was anyone 807 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,439 Speaker 1: you really missed out only and The Carl herrera really 808 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: but you. 809 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: Got him in the end, Anyway. 810 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: So, yeah, yeah you got. 811 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 2: There WHEN i did the thing the other thing with. 812 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 3: Skeets, yeah on the, BACKCAST i was like the reigning. 813 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: Champ i'm trying to stay the No Dunge. 814 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: Champ, well you'll be pleased to know then that some 815 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: of the other Guests i've had on, here there's a 816 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: bit of trash being talked Between Nate jones And John. 817 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 2: Schumann Ariel. Hawany Ariel hawani was incredible on this we. 818 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: Had he said to me, upwards he goes, said have 819 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 2: you got another? 820 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: Pack we ended up doing two packs at the time 821 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: Because ariel was just talking about. It SO i might 822 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: try to form together some sort of Like sweet sixteen 823 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: tournament and have some sort of. 824 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 2: Battle you can represent the you can represent The midwest division. 825 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: There all, Right i'm. 826 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 2: In i'm. 827 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 3: In just, no, no as long as we don't get 828 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 3: like a rockets heavy, Pack i'm. 829 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: Good all, Right, say thanks so much for your. Time, 830 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: man this was really good. 831 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: FUN i hope you enjoyed it, too and all the, 832 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: best good luck with. EVERYTHING i know you've got another 833 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: book you're working. On you want to give that a 834 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: quick pimp right. 835 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 3: Now you know it's Called Wrapping Other, things but it 836 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: won't be out for a, year so don't worry about, it. 837 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: Okay, well anyone who's dealing with your, Work i'm sure 838 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: will be looking forward to it And this has been, 839 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: great so thanks again for your. 840 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: Time all, right did, Later Thanks, matt