WEBVTT - Postgame Show: Eagles Lose 29-38 Against Pittsburgh 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.680 And what we thought was going to be a path 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:35.160 rushing a defensive special turned into sixty seven total points 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.040 scored between the two teams. The Eagles with chances to 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.320 win in Pittsburgh, and they did not get the job done. 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.800 Twenty nine to thirty eight your final score as the 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.280 Eagles fall to the Steelers. Today. We will be breaking 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.960 it down for you today on the postgame show, presented 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.280 by Rico. I'm Amy Campbell, as always, joined by Fran Duffy. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.279 I grease, Fran. I'll start with you. Let's get some 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.279 overall thoughts. I thought a lot of positives for the 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:02.040 Eagles here, but some costly mistakes and some classly penalty 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:06.440 some definitely questionable, others well deserved in my opinion. What 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.200 are your overall thoughts on today's performance. Yeah, I mean 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.240 you mentioned the penalties for sure, and there were some 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.720 tikie tack ones. But the tikie tack ones went both ways. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.240 You know. There were plays that were taking off the 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.959 board by the Pittsburgh Steelers as well that went the 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.839 other way. So I think, to me, self inflicted wounds 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:22.920 is something we talk about a lot, right whether it's 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.560 on offense or defense, and there are. You know, up 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.959 until the later part of this game, this was a 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:31.319 one possession game, and so those little mistakes really can 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.600 come back to bite you. I think end of the 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.640 first half, you know John Hitzower making that catch short 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.840 of the sticks near the sideline and not getting the 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.600 first down, not getting out of bounds. That took time 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.920 off the clock. That jj Arthega Whiteside that big catch 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:45.959 late in the first half, maybe that puts you in 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:48.600 field goal range. That changes the outlook of that game 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.800 going into the locker room. There were penalties on first down. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.400 The first down run game was not very good in 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.760 this game. So really, you know, a lot of things 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.680 you can look at and say, you know, just self 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.120 inflicted wounds at the offense. Stole a lot that needs 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.240 to get cleaned up. There were some good things. Certainly, 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.920 Travis folgam is a bright spot. I thought the offensive 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.320 line performed admirably well against this Pittsburgh defense. I'm excited 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.679 to see what that looks like on film. But yeah, 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.839 stole a lot that still needs to get cleaned up offensively. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.200 The Eagles went down by seventeen points at one point. 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.200 Ben Roethlisberger has never lost at home when trailing by 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.360 that much. They were able to get it within two. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:29.360 But ike's still not enough today in Pittsburgh. Yeah, and 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:33.119 Frand touched on a lot of things that kind of 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:37.960 ailed this offense, uh there throughout the course of the game. 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:42.040 Me being a defensive guy, Amy fran I can't I 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:46.320 can't help but be disappointed and the defensive effort out 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:50.360 there today. One team's defense. We're able to make game 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.600 changing plays, come up with turnovers. I know the Eagles 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:57.680 got the one turnover all the Forest fumble, but it 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:02.120 just wasn't enough. And more importantly than the turnovers, getting 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.760 off the field on third down. You know, I think 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:08.160 about a crucial tackle that was missed on third and 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.200 five I believe by Craig ba LeBlanc. You gotta make 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.240 that tackle. I mean, if you're gonna be a team 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.040 like Pitchburg, you have to make them fight and grind 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.120 for everything that they get. This was gonna be a 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:25.400 tough game, and listen to offense wasn't blameless out there today, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.280 but to go into Hines Field and put up what 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:32.040 nearly thirty points on arguably the number one defense in 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.520 the NFL. I thought the offense did enough to win 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.360 the game. I just needed a little more from the 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.839 defensive side of the ball to come up with either 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.400 a big stop when they needed one or come up 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.120 with a turnover late in that game to give their 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.800 offense a short field to work with. So I'm just 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:55.280 the defensive performance today was frustrating for me. Yeah, Eagles 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.320 defense allowed thirty eight points. I saw it on the 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.520 screen of the game. I can't remember how long it's been, 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.640 but it's been a long time since Pittsburgh has scored 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.000 thirty points in a game. All right, with that, let's 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.840 go to Dave Spidero and get his thoughts on this one. Um, 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.920 Dave a lot to break down some good things, but 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.400 we talk about the self inflicted wounds. What are your 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.920 overall thoughts as you start to process this loss here? 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.440 I hate the term self inflicted wounds, okay, because it's not. 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.800 It just bothers me that the Eagles. It wasn't as 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.479 much to me self inflicted wounds as a seventeen to 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:30.279 nothing run late second quarter, early third quarter. As fran mentioned, 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.320 the high tower and mistake not getting out of bounce 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:36.480 cost the Eagles a time out again. The defense, big drives, 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.520 long drives, gadget plays. It's like these defensive ends are 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.599 just not aware that. I mean every team is doing 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.320 the same thing to them. They're crashing down and it's 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.880 the bootleg, it's the misdirection, it's it's it's receivers coming 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.400 across the formation, taking doing the jet sweeps, the flips, 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.440 the it's just NonStop and there's just the Eagles haven't 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:59.400 adjusted to that. The soft coverage is bothersome. The having 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.640 Nathan Gary on the receiver there at Claypool at the 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.320 end of the game. I mean, Jonathan Villemot called it 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.160 out before the play. You can't put a linebacker out 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.360 there on a wide receiver who has been torching you 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.840 the entire game. I thought the offense, you know, the 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.960 run game wasn't there. Miles Sanders and anybody will say 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.120 Miles Sanders needs to get to ball. Miles Sanders had 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.240 ten carries for six yards and a touchdown. Other than 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.080 that seventy four yard touchdown run, I thought Carson played 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.799 much better. I thought the offensive line held up until 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.360 late in the game. Travis Fulgham to me, is a 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.120 starting wide receiver. I don't care if alshon Jeffrey and 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:36.840 when he comes back and I don't care when Deshaun 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.120 Jackson comes back. I'm riding with number thirteen. I'm going 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.920 to develop that kid, and I'm gonna see what he's 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.320 got because he's been super impressive. These last two weeks. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.360 Eagles have not been able to get zach Ertz into 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.320 the game. That's concerning, but for the most part, Look, 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.760 I mean there are no moral victories. I love the 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.279 heart this team showed going down seventeen points, and I 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.359 just wish they could have finished it off in the 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.600 fourth quarter. And by the way, I have no problem 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.760 with a fifty seven yard field goal attempt from Jake 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.039 Elliott went wide right. I wish the Eagles could have 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.760 executed that drive better to give him a better shot, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.000 but I have no problem with that decision to kick 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.680 the field goal. David, I'm so glad you brought up 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:15.400 fall going because I was gonna be my question for 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.960 you and you kind of talked about this. But he's 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:19.440 got to be part of the big picture now for 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.479 the next few weeks, right at least like moving forward. 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.120 I mean, you gotta count on this kid. What he's 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.720 done has been really impressive. Look, this is a football 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.480 team that has talked all off season about getting younger, 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:34.359 about getting faster, about getting stronger. Best laid plans go 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.039 to waste. When there's a lot of injuries. You bring 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:39.279 back Jason Peters. You rely a lot on the veteran 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.799 receivers who haven't been on the field through the first 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.080 five games. I'm riding with high Tower. I'm riding with Fulgum, 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.480 Greg Ward. If DeShawn Jackson and al Sean come back, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.480 that's great, that helps. But I'm not going to give 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.120 up on Folgum at all. I think there's something to 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.839 work with here. Eagles are looking for young talent, and 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.839 number thirteen has shown that he is a big time talent. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.720 We'll see as teams get more film on him and 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.120 they take some things away from him, how he adjusts. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:10.360 But clearly there is something there to work with. Yeah, day, 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.680 there's no way they're giving up or taking Travis Fogum 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.480 out of this line up. The guy just had the 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:19.640 best receiving day since Jeremy Macklin in two thousand and fourteen. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.440 So I don't think we have to worry about Travis 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.600 Fogum not being in his lineup anytime soon. But let 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.880 me ask you about the defense day. This was probably 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:33.200 Darius Slay's toughest day as an Eagle. What did you 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.240 think about his play today and the fact that Big 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:40.120 Band didn't necessarily shy away from throwing in his direction. Yeah, 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.600 I mean, Darius did not play his best game, no 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.280 doubt about a two pass interference calls down the field. 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.760 I thought the first one was a bit questionable at 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:51.640 the very least, but certainly the Steelers went right after him. 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.800 And you know that's there's no such thing in the 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.120 NFL's what they call is shutdown cornerback anymore. In this 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.560 Eagles defense, if they are not dominating at the line 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.280 of scream, they struggle on the back end. I mean, 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.360 that's just the way it is. And Jim was rushing four, 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.920 rushing four, rushing four, and Roethlisberger had time to pick 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.800 him apart, and he did so. And that third down 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:16.200 conversion rateike which you mentioned, eleven of fifteen conversions. So 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.880 let's talk about the defense, not just this game, but 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:23.040 through five games you have to be concerned with an 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.560 Eagles defense had once again three trips into the red 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:29.680 zone three Pittsburgh Steelers touchdowns. The takeaway was great, but 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.840 could not get off the field. Not enough pressure on 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.480 Ben Roethlisberger. They made They made the decision very early 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.640 in the game that Roethlisberger was going to get the 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.680 ball out of his hands quickly, and he did it. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.720 Boom boom boom, drop back, boom boom. Don't let the 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.920 defensive line dominate. So that's the blueprint. So if you're 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.520 Jim Schwartz, what is your counter move here? And that's 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.439 what I'm going to look forward to in the weeks 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.760 to come, because, let's be honest to this defense has 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:56.840 not played well in twenty twenty period. David. I'm just 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.120 looking at like the starting field position too. Everything that 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.600 you just said, like the inability to stop them on 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.040 third down, the inability to create turnovers. Just one sack today, 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.320 and here's looking like Eagles offense starting field position on 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.719 their own seventeen on their own, fourteen on their own 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.400 twenty four on their own fifteen on their own twenty. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.680 Steelers on their own forty six. They're thirty eight the 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.240 forty seven. Like you see, like the starting field position, 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:23.600 and now you're the starting field position battle, that yardage 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.480 battle completely in Pittsburgh's favor, and that's a that's a 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.520 team stat that's offense, that's defense, that's special teams. The 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.600 Eagles came up short in that area today, and friend, 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.840 let me touch on special teams because the return game 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.040 has been just not productive at all. I mean, I 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.560 don't know what the return scheme is, but as I 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:43.920 saw Craig James looping around to to block, Steelers were 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.440 running past him. Boston Scott had no chance. And for 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.520 the first time this year, I've seen teams kicked the 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.559 ball to the Eagles wanting them to return a kickoff, 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.880 and it was a good strategy by the Steelers. Eagles 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.880 still not getting production in the kickoff return game, still 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.720 not getting production in the punt return game, and you know, 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.840 those things can really flip a field and change momentum 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.040 of a game. Eagles just unable to do that. But 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.640 back to the defense, I think, what's I don't have 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.960 the statistic in in my mind, but the Eagles score touchdown. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.560 We've seen it over and over. Eagles score touchdown. Eagle, Yeah, 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.920 let's see's momentum here, and then the defense boom gives 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:24.280 up big plays, a long drive, points on the ensuing drive, 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.439 and it just this defense has just not been able 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.240 to take the momentum and keep it in the Eagles favor, 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.199 and that's something that is a big picture concern when 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.120 you're looking at this Philadelphia Eagles team for the rest 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.480 of the season. Yeah. I think great point there, David, 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.640 especially when you're looking at the third down numbers for 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.840 the Steelers offense as well as as you mentioned, just 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.280 that momentum. There was that one point the Steelers had 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.800 come away with points on five straight drives. I think 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.160 it was four touchdowns and one field goal. So that's 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.960 just not a recipe for coming away with a win, 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.280 especially on the road. All Right, I'm looking forward to 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.760 hearing your podcast as always. Will let you get to 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.280 it all right, thanks so much, Amy. Tough win today, 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.400 great Heart, but just not enough at the end. Absolutely, Yeah. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.640 I think let's get into some of your takeaways here, 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.440 but I think that would be how I would sum 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.760 it up, great heart, a lot of fight. I saw 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.080 some things today that we're really exciting for me to 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.360 see things that I have not seen yet this season 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.720 in terms of that fight on some explosiveness on offense, 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.240 some big plays, but just not enough to get it done. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:31.559 I think, like Dave said, yeah, and I'll start there, Amy, 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.000 I'll start with the good, because the bad may take 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.040 me a little while to get through. But the good, though, 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.720 You're exactly right. I like what the offense was able 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.440 to come out and do today. You're talking about a 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.600 tough environment to go and play in. I know it 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.040 wasn't a pack stadium, but the fact that you're going 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.720 to Hinesfield, not many people come out of there with 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.040 a w and the Eagles certainly were under manned on 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.360 the offensive side of the ball, and you can make 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.400 the argument that this is the best the offense has 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.720 looked since the first half of the opener versus Washington. 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.400 I mean the fact that Carson Wentz seemed to find 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:09.720 some rhythm with Travis Fogum. The kid made big catch 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.000 at the big catch. Speaking of big catch, his catch 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.640 radius I think was right there where wins could feel 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.920 comfortable with. He doesn't necessarily have to feel like he 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.559 has to be pinpoint accurate throwing the ball to Travis Fogum. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.680 The big kid can go up and make catches for you. 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.360 I thought Wentz was very comfortable with that. Obviously, Mouths 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.720 with the explosive run for a seventy four yard touchdown. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.760 That was nice to see Greg war with some tough catches. Man. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.040 I'll tell you John Hitzoyer had a couple opportunities there 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.079 that if he could just locate the ball and really 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.200 get his hands in the right position, Carson could have 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:49.320 had an even bigger day from the quarterback position. I 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:53.040 know the two interceptions are on his resume for today, 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.080 but I gotta be off with you. I don't think 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.680 either one of those were his fault. I don't know 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.640 what happened to zach Ertz on that interset where he 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.040 got bumped off the route and then that last hell 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.600 Mary throw. I'm not even sure why they were going 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.720 forward on fourth and twenty. That's probably the only scenario 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:13.560 that you could uh that could only play out there 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:17.000 on that last play was that an interception was gonna happen. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:18.480 So I don't even know why they went for it 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.040 on fourth and twenty. But I thought the offense and 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:25.240 Carson with the young guys, showed some some promise today. 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:30.080 Certainly enohing have people look forward and be excited moving 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.319 in the next couple of weeks with these guys, I 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.320 completely agree. And let me touch on Fulgham. Of course, 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.760 a huge day for him today, I believe one hundred 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.360 and fifty two receiving yards. But he's the first player 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.040 in Eagles history with one hundred and fifty receiving yards 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.560 within his first five career games. And honestly, you could 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.560 make that two career games for Fulgham as well. And 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.680 then we talk about that big play from Miles Sanders 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.320 that we're going to see a little bit later, a 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:57.160 career long seventy four yards against the NFL's best run defense, 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.360 and you can argue that, yeah, that was a breakdown 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.800 on their part, but I think a positive there and 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.600 the longest touchdown run by an Eagles player since Brian 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.240 Mitchell in two thousand, so fran when you look at 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.080 this offense, those two things in mind, but also just 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.679 Carson taking some deep shots that I thought were those 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.800 are some nice balls down the field. I think that 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.040 when you look at an offense that has been desperate 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:20.880 for a big play, you have to feel a little 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.360 bit excited about some of the things we saw today. Yeah, 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.400 I mean, for sure, like when you look at what 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.360 Travis Folgan was able to do, you have to be 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.640 excited about that, right because he's shown some really good 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.240 Flashes more so than some of the other young receivers 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.920 on this team in a short sample size, right. I mean, 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.600 so you like what we've seen from Travis Folgan, but 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.800 I also agree with you. I like the aggressiveness as well, 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.960 because you know, when you're going up against a defense 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.280 like Pittsburgh, you have to take some chances. You've got 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.240 to be able to try and stretch the field, even 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.480 if it's just to get those guys to back off 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.480 a little bit so they're not squatting on everything that's 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.720 within ten twelve yards. Yeah. I think that Dave touched 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.680 on a great point earlier. You know, the inability to 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.680 get zach Ertz involved in the intermediate passing game as 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.320 certain hurt them right now. I think they're missing Dallas 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.840 Goddard as well. You know that injury has really proved 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.400 to be pivotal for this offense. But at the end 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:08.800 of the day, I mean, like you said it earlier, 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.680 I thought you said it. Well, you know, they go 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.160 into Pittsburgh against one of the best defenses in the league, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.960 if not the best defense in the league, and they 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.680 put up thirty points. Yeah, and it's tough to argue 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.880 with that kind of performance. So look, it's a disappointing 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:23.920 end of the day. There are certainly some good things 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.320 to be able to look at, but look a lot 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:27.960 of a lot of things that they need to correct 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:33.320 as well, really on both sides of the ball. All right, Ike, 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.560 what else did out to you? Well, let's get to 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.800 the defensive side of the ball. I mean, my goodness, 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:46.840 coming performance they had last Sunday against San Francisco. You 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.240 certainly thought that would be something they could build on. Listen, 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:54.080 Ben Roethlisberger is not Nick Mullins, so you know that 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.520 the Pittsburgh Sailer's offense was going to be able to 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:00.680 have some success, but third down conversions, not being able 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.800 to get off the field on third downs. Dave mentioned 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.600 earlier about the red zone trips Pitchburgh had and were 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:11.480 able to capitalize and score five straight drives for the 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:15.920 Pitchburgh offense, four touchdowns and a field goal. And then, 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:20.040 my goodness, to be to be beaten by one receiver, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:25.600 a rookie wire receiver and Chase Claypool just really disheartening. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.640 And I'm sure those defensive players got a lot of 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:32.680 pride and they're gonna be kicking themselves about how they 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:38.080 allowed this offense. They really focused itself around a rookie 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:42.080 wire receiver and a couple gadget plays, was able to 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.400 put up almost forty points on them. Uh. This is 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.440 a defense that plays with a lot of pride, that 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.480 plays with a lot of toughness. But get Pitchburg credit. 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.680 They had a good game plan to neutralize the Eagles 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.880 front four and to get the ball out of Big 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.120 Ben's hands. A lot quicker on the back end of 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:03.600 this defense. Just not enough plays being made by our 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.720 linebackers and our secondary players. Not enough in this game. 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.680 If Big Ben is gonna throw the ball thirty five times, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.679 we gotta find our way to get some tip balls, 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:18.000 get some balls battered in the air, and create more turnovers. 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.120 I just thought our defense, other than the one turnover 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.880 we head, it just didn't come up with enough big plays. 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:29.480 And it seemed to me as if Pitchburg controlled sort 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:33.840 of the flow of the game. They seemingly can get 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:37.920 whatever they wanted when they whatever they wanted when they 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.200 wanted it, and that has to be a little frustrating. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.920 I'm coming into this game, guys thinking, if the defense 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.800 can hold Pitchburg to twenty to twenty three points. We 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:52.159 got a real good chance to win this game. The 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.280 fact that the offense was able to put up thirty 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:59.280 points and that wasn't enough against the Pitchburg team, it's 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.760 got to be disapoint and I'm sure those guys got 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.000 a lot of pride and this one, this one's gonna hurt. 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.480 This one's gonna hurt because you know, a lot of 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:12.840 those touchdowns were mental mistakes and breakdowns and coverage on 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.200 the back end of his defense. Well, when you talk 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.840 about affecting the quarterback and affecting Ben Roethlisberger, we talked 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:20.919 about clearly a part of their game plan was to 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:22.439 get the ball out quick, which is one of the 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.639 things he does so well. But we talked before this 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.040 game about the sack numbers for both of these teams, 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.800 the Eagles leading the NFL in sacks at that time. 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.600 They got to him one time. Carson Wentz was hit 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.800 four times in this one, so Pittsburgh staying consistent with 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.800 their about average of five sacks per game. There Roethlisberger's numbers, 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.160 ike you mentioned it, through the ball thirty four times, 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.879 completed twenty seven of those. That's almost an eighty percent 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:50.639 completion rate. Two hundred and thirty nine yards, three touchdowns, 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:54.240 and then you talk about Chase Claypool, a rookie wide receiver, 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.600 getting four touchdowns. That is a Steelers record. So, Fran, 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.640 when you look at this defensive performance, I think I 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.040 put it into perspective that they did a lot of 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.119 things well, but they are certainly going to be kicking 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.439 themselves about some of those some of those breakdowns. You know, 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:11.680 I don't have the numbers in front of me. I'm interested. 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.560 That's something I'll look at later this week. But you know, 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.680 some of the mistackles in some key situations, if it's 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:19.679 you know, third and three, you have a guy wrapped 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:21.760 up and they're able to get four you know, on 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.320 some shallow crossing routes, on some throws of the flat, 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.320 sometimes in the run game. But you know, the tackling 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.440 has just not been there. I think the tackling is 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.399 a little bit down across the league right now. So 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:32.720 I don't think that the the Eagles are going to be 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:34.879 you know, last or bottom third in the league and 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.160 when it comes to tackling. But you know, right now, 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:39.840 some of those mistackles have just come in some crucial 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.520 spots that have kept drives alive and it's resulted in 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.800 points on the scoreboard. To me, that's one of the 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:47.600 things I think I'll be looking at, is like the 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.239 not just the self inflicted wounds on offense, you know, 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:53.000 the things that kind of kept points off the board, 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:56.600 but some of those plays that left drives alive defensively 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.680 that allowed Pittsburgh to continue moving the football. Well, the 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.119 over battle always huge. The Eagles give it away twice 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:06.760 and take it away one time, I believe. And then 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.080 we talked about those third down numbers and those red 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.840 zone numbers. Actually both teams did, both offenses did really 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.600 well in that department. The Eagles ten of fourteen and 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:19.000 third down seventy one percent and then the Steelers eleven 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.840 and fifteen which is seventy three percent. Really close. Both 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.760 teams three for three in the red zone and in 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:28.200 goal to go situations, so really comparable when you look 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.560 at that two defenses. That again, we thought this was 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:33.880