WEBVTT - The Breakdown Is Right Here In The Process

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and get Katie and now he Armstrong and Jetty.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the nearly two hundred missiles fired by Iran, Israeli

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<v Speaker 3>defenses shot down almost all of them, not without the

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<v Speaker 3>help of US destroyers based in the Eastern Mediterranean. The

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<v Speaker 3>Israeli military has vowed to strike back. We have the

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<v Speaker 3>capabilities to reach any point to the Middle East, said

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<v Speaker 3>the head of the Armed Forces. Our enemies who have

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<v Speaker 3>not understood this yet will soon understand. Israeli military video

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<v Speaker 3>shows troops advancing through the mountains of southern Lebanon as

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<v Speaker 3>it announced close quarter fighting with Hezbolah. Thousands more are

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<v Speaker 3>being sent north as part of what the Israeli military

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<v Speaker 3>is calling a limited ground operation.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's interesting and I like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>have been wondering what is the Israeli gonna response going

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<v Speaker 4>to be?

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<v Speaker 2>How big is it going to be?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, is it going to be full regime change,

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<v Speaker 4>like try to take out the Ayatola take out There

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<v Speaker 4>are nuclear facilities, they're oil refineries, all that different sort

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff. Maybe not as much as I thought. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>have that for you in just a second. But here's

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<v Speaker 4>a CBS reporter who got a tour of a town,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're in Lebanon, where the Hesbla people are pretty popular, apparently.

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<v Speaker 5>Southern Bayiruk suburb of Dahia, the seat of Hesbola's power.

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<v Speaker 5>Israeli airstrikes targeted Dahia relentlessly. We were only given access

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<v Speaker 5>as part of a large media tour organized by the

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<v Speaker 5>Milton Group following the Israeli assassination of its leader, custom Disrella.

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<v Speaker 5>This man yells, we will not surrender. We followed Nosreela,

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<v Speaker 5>this man who said we are all Norella. So if

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<v Speaker 5>Israel was fighting one person, they are now fighting the

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<v Speaker 5>entire nation.

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<v Speaker 2>We are all in ISRAELA.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how many people leave that sentiment there

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<v Speaker 4>in southern Lebanon, but.

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<v Speaker 2>There's that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a great deal of resentment of Hesbala as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends who you ask.

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<v Speaker 4>So Joe Biden was asked yesterday, what do you think

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<v Speaker 4>of Israel taking out the nuclear facilities there in Iran?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, no response needs to be proportional. Why we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>advocate keeping Iran from getting a bomb. I guess you

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<v Speaker 4>did want to go back to your old boss's plan.

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<v Speaker 4>If you just keep giving Iran more money and thinking

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<v Speaker 4>at some point they'll just decide not to want a

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<v Speaker 4>nuclear weapon or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I've never understood that theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they won't take the money and keep developing the nukes.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no chance of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But this shocked me.

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<v Speaker 4>From the New York Times, several senior Biden officials, speaking

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<v Speaker 4>on a condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive conversations, said

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday that Israeli officials have told them privately that they

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<v Speaker 4>do not feel the need to hit back against Iran

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<v Speaker 4>in an immediate and massive way.

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't heard this anywhere yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Officials in the United States and Europe feared that Israel

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<v Speaker 4>could hit economic tiggets in Iran that would prompt the

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<v Speaker 4>dangerous escalatory reaction Tehran has long wouldn't I know. Tehran

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<v Speaker 4>has long signaled that attacks on its oil and gas

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<v Speaker 4>industry would be a red line. A senior European official said,

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<v Speaker 4>so we're announcing we're scared of Iran. That's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Such a strike would probably prompt retaliatory attacks. From Iran

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<v Speaker 4>on Western energy assets, potentially disrupting the global economy one

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<v Speaker 4>month before the presidential election.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's there, you go, that last phrase. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it is about. And the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>it is utterly dishonest. First of all, the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want a dangerous escalation where Iran like gets

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<v Speaker 1>really mad or something. It's already on. Okay, the war

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<v Speaker 1>is on Iran has been defanged. Two most powerful proxies

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<v Speaker 1>are fighting for their lives, and those are the two

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<v Speaker 1>attack dogs they always threatened Israel with. They didn't threaten

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<v Speaker 1>them with, and we'll fire two hundred and twelve ballistic

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<v Speaker 1>missiles at you. They threatened them with, Yeah, we'll send

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<v Speaker 1>our attack dogs in the region right at Israel and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to fight the hell out of you. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you going to do now your attack dogs

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<v Speaker 1>are defanged?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right?

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<v Speaker 4>And then in terms of launching an attack from your

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<v Speaker 4>own country? Am I supposed to believe that the two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred ballistic missiles were That's not our best stuff. We

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<v Speaker 4>got way better stuff. We're just holding back for some reason.

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<v Speaker 4>What I don't know that I buy that. I am

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<v Speaker 4>so disgusted by Joe Biden. I disagreed a lot with

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<v Speaker 4>Barack Obama. I thought he was wrong. I thought he

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<v Speaker 4>not born here, oh boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought his.

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<v Speaker 1>Theory of international relations was that of an academic overly

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<v Speaker 1>in love with his own persuasive powers and intellect and

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. But at least I felt like there

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<v Speaker 1>was coh to it. It was wrong, it was just incoherent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry it was wrong, but it was coherent. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden is just spineless.

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<v Speaker 2>He is utterly unable to make a risky decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever, He's one of the most gray milk toast, cowardly

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<v Speaker 1>spineless people I've ever seen in a position of power.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just I'm just so sick of him.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we can't escalate, it's got to be proportional.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's an idea for you, Joe. And this has been

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<v Speaker 1>true since the dawn of man. You make your adversaries

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<v Speaker 1>so afraid to mess with you, they don't mess with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have peace and tranquility. And then with that

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<v Speaker 1>power you have, you exercise it compassionately and with justice.

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<v Speaker 2>You help the downtrodden.

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<v Speaker 1>You send aircraft carriers to tsunami sites, You act with

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<v Speaker 1>decency and kindness, but yes, strength, enormous, overwhelming strength. Israel

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<v Speaker 1>has the chance to knock it around back by a

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<v Speaker 1>decade in terms of being a regional and perhaps global threat.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 1>If Tally Bennett, who we've quoted a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the former Israeli Prime minister, said has Boll and

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas are paralyzed temporarily, and Iran is exposed right now,

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<v Speaker 1>they're naked, they don't have the ability to protect themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Israel has the greatest opportunity in fifty years to change

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<v Speaker 1>the face of the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 4>The National Review editorial board has a piece today. Their

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<v Speaker 4>editors have a piece, actually it came out yesterday basically saying, remember,

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<v Speaker 4>this is all Obama's fault, and they're just carrying on

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<v Speaker 4>the same strategy of you know, let's just deal with them,

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<v Speaker 4>give them more money, loosen up money so that they

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<v Speaker 4>won't need to get a nuclear weapon, or I don't

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<v Speaker 4>even under I never understood.

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<v Speaker 2>The philosophy at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I hear it brought up on your lefty cable news

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<v Speaker 4>channels all the time, and Ian Bremmer brings it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, but all the time, just.

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<v Speaker 4>Say Trump got out of the Iranian nuclear deal that

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<v Speaker 4>Obama put together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was working, graz was it? Oh? Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, So they point that out and that at every

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<v Speaker 4>turn I'll read from it. At every escalation by Iran,

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<v Speaker 4>the response by the Biden Harris administration has been to

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<v Speaker 4>show weakness. They always talk about their ironclad support for Israel,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's failed to recognize that defensive measures against Iran

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<v Speaker 4>can only go so far when they aren't accompanied by

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<v Speaker 4>a strong offensive response to re establish deterrence.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no deterrence.

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<v Speaker 4>So their final paragraph is this time the response to

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<v Speaker 4>Iranian aggression must be different. For the second time in

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<v Speaker 4>five months, Iran has fired hundreds of projectiles at Israel

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<v Speaker 4>thanks to the gains the regime is believed to have

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<v Speaker 4>made in uranium enrichment under the Biden Harris administration. There's

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<v Speaker 4>simply no way Israel can take the chance that the

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<v Speaker 4>next time Iran launches such an attack, some of the missiles.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be loaded with nuclear warheads.

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<v Speaker 4>It's believed that Iran's within a couple of weeks if

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<v Speaker 4>they decided to go to get a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you not interrupt that?

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<v Speaker 4>Why wouldn't we be in favor of Israel, interrupting that

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<v Speaker 4>it's hard to imagine the reasons I've just enunciated about

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<v Speaker 4>the head of our government Defense Israel. Israel's Defense Minister

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<v Speaker 4>Joev Galan, who has disagreed rather vehemently with net Nyahou

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<v Speaker 4>on various questions in recent days, said Iran has not

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<v Speaker 4>learned a simple lesson. Those who attack the State of

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<v Speaker 4>Israel pay a heavy price. The heavier the price, the

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<v Speaker 4>rarer the attacks. Well, you know, I don't know nothing,

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<v Speaker 4>but Iran's in the weakest position it's been and we

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<v Speaker 4>got a couple of aircraft carriers and nearly fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 4>troops around the United States. Does when would be a

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<v Speaker 4>better time to attack Iran than when they're weak and

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<v Speaker 4>when the biggest bully in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Has got your back? I mean, is right there? Yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's interesting. So you think the sources, speaking on

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<v Speaker 4>the condition of anonymity they're quoting in the New York

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<v Speaker 4>Times is what do you think that is?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's crap. I don't know what to think.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's shocking to me if it's true that Israeli

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<v Speaker 4>officials are telling the Biden people we're not gonna we're

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<v Speaker 4>not going to go very big in anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I just find that impossible to believe. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>pre spin. They could just be turning down the heat

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<v Speaker 1>on the burner of their American Israeli relations, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when the attack comes, it's going to be a big

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<v Speaker 1>and nasty get to forgiveness, not permission. They're probably thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>That, yeah, well, they didn't alert the Biden administration to

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<v Speaker 4>the snuffing of Azraala, And you do that on purpose,

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<v Speaker 4>so that you know, Biden isn't put in a position

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<v Speaker 4>politically where he says, yeah, I knew about it, but

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't stop them, or I didn't stop them, or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You on purpose, don't tell them. It's doing them a favor.

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<v Speaker 4>Works for both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh, we'll see how that goes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I worry that some of our brethren on the right

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<v Speaker 1>who are of a more what word would they use, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they always go on about forever wars.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's an argument, it's just a slogan.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what you'd call it as a philosophy,

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<v Speaker 4>but I have heard from a number of people I

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<v Speaker 4>know enough for it to like make me think it's

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<v Speaker 4>a wave of people that I know are are super red,

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<v Speaker 4>super trumpy. We say we got to get out of

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<v Speaker 4>these wars. That's the phrase I keep hearing, we got

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<v Speaker 4>to get out of these wars. That And so I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know how much of the right feels that way now,

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<v Speaker 4>but I definitely feel like it's growing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would agree completely, And and it's one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>relevant and appropriate discussion. To what extent and in what

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<v Speaker 1>way should the United States project its power around the globe?

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<v Speaker 1>Where and when that's that's a great discussion, and you

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<v Speaker 1>might think less than I do. But some of it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes this simplistic, classic isolationism that was a mistake forty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And now that you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Reach out and touch someone from anywhere on the globe,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that we ought to retreat to our own

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<v Speaker 1>shores and mind our own business in the world won't

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<v Speaker 1>come looking for us.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think it's true. I think it's naive

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of it. But there are subtleties involved.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're of that, you know, ideology or thought

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<v Speaker 1>that we're describing, you know, knock us out an email

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<v Speaker 1>mail bag at Armstrong and Getty dot com if you've

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<v Speaker 1>dissent is welcomed here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure Trump's aware of how much of his party

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<v Speaker 4>feels that way and probably has a you know, some

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<v Speaker 4>pretty good pulling on it. A lot of it's led

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<v Speaker 4>by Tucker Carl Carlson and others like him. We got,

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<v Speaker 4>we got to stay out of these wars, equating Iraq,

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<v Speaker 4>which was practically pointless and Afghanistan, which was handled incredible

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<v Speaker 4>poorly for many decades. With these two situations which are very,

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<v Speaker 4>very different. Oh yeah, yeah, that's just silly. Anyway, Is

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<v Speaker 4>it going to be fun to follow over the coming months, years,

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<v Speaker 4>and decades, perhaps centuries, although I won't be around for that.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a lot more on the way. Stay here.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know where you all are, but here in

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<v Speaker 4>northern California where we broadcast from, it's been like one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and five degrees the first couple of days of October.

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell? The climate is changing.

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<v Speaker 4>I refuse to use individual days or weather events to

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<v Speaker 4>confirm that, but I and.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree the climate is changing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, because from where I'm from, it used to snow

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<v Speaker 4>and it doesn't snow anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's pretty major change.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know, what I didn't get to the second

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of the devastating damage done to in particular or

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<v Speaker 1>western North Carolina, the recent hurricane that packed tremendous power.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if it has it got far further north than

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<v Speaker 1>hurricanes generally do any damage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Ashville is a long way from the coast. Oh yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's way up in the mountains. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a part of it's about the Brown Ocean, which

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<v Speaker 1>is something I had in all my years on the

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<v Speaker 1>planet not been aware of. If there is like really

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<v Speaker 1>heavy rainfall in a region and the ground is pretty saturated, hurricane,

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<v Speaker 1>a tropical storm can actually pick up moisture and power

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<v Speaker 1>out of the ground as it as it covers you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the ground and gains strength as if it's going over

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<v Speaker 1>the Gulf of Mexico with its warm waters.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what happened here. They call it the Brown Ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like that term.

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<v Speaker 4>It either sounds disgusting or sexual or something you're.

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<v Speaker 1>A child, wake up and smell the meteorology.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway. I thought that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The other aspect of it that I brought up was

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<v Speaker 1>that it has devastated all sorts of red towns and

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<v Speaker 1>counties in western North Carolina, and the authorities are not

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<v Speaker 1>sure they can get the together, the whole the procedures,

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<v Speaker 1>the polling places, the mail out, mail in ballots, all

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>And also I meant to mention this, this is a

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<v Speaker 4>burbling thing in circles on the right who take in

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of social media. The response and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of this. Brit Hume retweeted this, I saw if what

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<v Speaker 4>this man is saying about helicopters it could have saved

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<v Speaker 4>live staying grounded because of a lack of orders is true.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a scandal. There's a lot of that flying

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<v Speaker 4>around on social media. I don't know how much of

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<v Speaker 4>it is accurate or not, of people who are trying

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<v Speaker 4>to rescue and getting thwarted by you know, mall cops,

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<v Speaker 4>people who are really flexing their authority rightly or wrongly,

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<v Speaker 4>and not allowing things to get fixed.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's become a huge problem.

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<v Speaker 4>And the multiple deaths are being attributed to this interesting

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<v Speaker 4>and there's so much you know, mayhem going on right now.

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<v Speaker 4>The stories haven't been able to get out. But as

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<v Speaker 4>Hume points out, there if some of these stories are

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<v Speaker 4>the way they sound like, somebody saying I was going

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<v Speaker 4>to try to rescue them off the roof, but the

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<v Speaker 4>local deputy fire chief for the county, who's never been

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<v Speaker 4>able to tell anybody what to do before in his life,

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't let us do it, and then people died. If

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<v Speaker 4>some of these story stories turn out to be true,

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<v Speaker 4>they're gonna be quite scandalous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if it's just local authorities, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it means anything except locally.

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<v Speaker 4>But well yeah, yeah, no, I'm not making it claiming

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<v Speaker 4>it has a presidential significance or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not neither anti lar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of people are working really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>make this political life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, surely rings true, though, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Tavin't you had that experience, you know, the person that

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<v Speaker 4>gets well, we saw it during COVID over and over

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<v Speaker 4>and over again, your county health person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, So completely different topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Two Harvard students have created an eerie demo of how

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<v Speaker 1>smart glasses, including the new ray Ban Meta smart glasses,

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<v Speaker 1>can use facial recognition tech to instantly diex people's identities,

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<v Speaker 1>phone numbers, addresses, relatives, the whole deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know I knew.

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<v Speaker 4>Facial recognition technology was pretty good. They're using it at

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<v Speaker 4>airports and ball games. But I didn't know like I

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<v Speaker 4>had access to it, did you?

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<v Speaker 1>This is all currently available stuff technology public databases. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the two students posted a video showcasing the tech

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<v Speaker 1>in action that got picked up by other media. The

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<v Speaker 1>tech works by using the meta smart classes ability to

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<v Speaker 1>live stream video to Instagram. A computer program then monitors

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<v Speaker 1>that stream and uses AI to identify faces. Those photos

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<v Speaker 1>are then fed into public databases to find names, addresses,

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<v Speaker 1>phone numbers, and even relatives. That information is then fed

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<v Speaker 1>back through a phone app. Now, these are smart college

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<v Speaker 1>kids with a great deal of computer literacy obviously, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's using all readily available stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And it will be something that even I could use

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<v Speaker 4>six months from now.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they show him using the lasses to identify

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<v Speaker 1>several classmates, their addresses, and names of relatives in real time.

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<v Speaker 1>They do the same with complete strangers on public transits.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, that's coming. That is going to be the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Geeddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking it's a bit of an administrative snaff oo. Michael

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't actually in the room when we decided which clip

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<v Speaker 1>to come back, right, That's.

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<v Speaker 2>What I was waiting for the clip.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's when I don't think we need a consultant

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<v Speaker 1>to point out the problem with that process. I've looked

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<v Speaker 1>over the problem, and it seems to be you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell the guy who has the ability to play the

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<v Speaker 1>clips that he needs to play the clips. The breakdown

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be right here in the process. Michael, if

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<v Speaker 1>you would played clip forty, we would all be gratified.

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<v Speaker 7>The Special Council focusing in particular on Trump's alleged interactions

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<v Speaker 7>with then Vice President Mike Pence, who had refused Trump's

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<v Speaker 7>insistence he stopped the electoral certification on January sixth. Throughout

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<v Speaker 7>the one hundred and sixty five page filing, Smith makes

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<v Speaker 7>the case Trump was acting as a candidate or private citizen,

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<v Speaker 7>not as president, but he was claiming the election was stolen.

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<v Speaker 7>The new filing also alleges Trump allies sought to create chaos,

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<v Speaker 7>including one unnamed Trump supporter shortly after the election, encouraging

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<v Speaker 7>protests even to make them riot.

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<v Speaker 2>For Trump paiding media. This is the biggest story in America.

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<v Speaker 4>It's led every newscast the fact that Smith is still

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<v Speaker 4>trying to bring down Trump. Around January sixth, and figure

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<v Speaker 4>a way around that Supreme Court ruling on immunity, and

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<v Speaker 4>they released a whole bunch of details with this many

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<v Speaker 4>page report yesterday. The question being why did you release

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<v Speaker 4>this in October, weeks before a presidential election. Is there

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<v Speaker 4>any reason that you released it other than to political

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<v Speaker 4>trying to damage Trump before an election?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, they've unleashed the prosecutions case in a criminal trial.

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<v Speaker 1>So does the defense now go, how do we do

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<v Speaker 1>this when we're trying a case in public like this

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<v Speaker 1>mister in the media, It's interesting, the learned and eloquent

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Turley commenting on this forty six place.

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<v Speaker 6>The timing is concerning. Jack Smith knows that this election

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<v Speaker 6>will be the largest jury verdict in history, and this

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<v Speaker 6>comes across as his closing election argument. You know, this

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<v Speaker 6>is the argument against Trump. It's one sided, it's quite elaborate,

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<v Speaker 6>but it is an argument that he wants out there

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<v Speaker 6>before the election, and that will remain troubling for a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of people. It's not going to change a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of minds. But you know, he goes through every detail here.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe this happened. It's very James Comy like

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<v Speaker 4>in that you're you're claiming, well, if I had kept

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<v Speaker 4>it secret, I could be blamed for being political by

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<v Speaker 4>not allowing this information to come out. How about you

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<v Speaker 4>air toward will of an investoration is still going on

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<v Speaker 4>or something hasn't been determined.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, keep it secret, right right, or just sit on it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't normally publish this sort of stuff anyway. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an amusing aspect of this whole deal. As I

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<v Speaker 1>said earlier, the Smith indictment is just the old indictment,

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<v Speaker 1>but removing the stuff that's demonstrably Trump doing his official

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<v Speaker 1>duties as president because the Supreme Court said you have

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<v Speaker 1>immunity for that, and so Smith is figuring out, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is as a candidate, this is his private activities,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the stuff will emphasize.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the same indictment, just cleansed of some of

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that Supreme Court said.

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<v Speaker 2>No no to.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Tapper, on the lead on CNN, was launching into

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<v Speaker 1>a story and the graphic running across the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the screen said Smith provides never before seeing evidence from

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty election case against Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was CNN's narrative that's quite time.

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<v Speaker 4>I would grab my eyes. I would think, wow, stuff

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<v Speaker 4>we haven't heard yet. Well I just seen this.

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<v Speaker 2>But clip forty five, Michael, this is how it actually sounded.

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<v Speaker 1>With polling and our team of intrepid reporters who have

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<v Speaker 1>been combing through this filing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me start with you, Paula.

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<v Speaker 8>Walk us through then major headlines in this filing and

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<v Speaker 8>the ones that we have not seen before.

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<v Speaker 2>Paula, are you ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean no, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't seen We're on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We're sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know you're so distracted by going home.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah no, I mean I want to say there isn't

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<v Speaker 4>a lot that we haven't really seen before.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's not what he was hoping for when you

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<v Speaker 2>got in, John as we haven't seen never.

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<v Speaker 4>Before, bombshell reporting. Not a lot of here we haven't

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<v Speaker 4>seen before. Jake, Oh we're all here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't sure what to say that there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot we haven't seen before.

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<v Speaker 2>Jake, don't hurt me, don't hurt me. I this is

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<v Speaker 2>my guess.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe this will sound partisan, but this is what I

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<v Speaker 4>actually think. I think the crowd that hates Trump and

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't going to vote for it for him. This has

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<v Speaker 4>no effect on whatsoever other than yet, I'm still not

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<v Speaker 4>voting for him because I hate him and he's this

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<v Speaker 4>guy and the other side it's going to be, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's right. They're constantly trying to use the legal system

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<v Speaker 4>to try to stop Trump from being president. I was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of thinking, I'm going to vote. Now I'm absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>going to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it will have some of that effect. Now, what

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<v Speaker 1>in our we happen to share the opinion that what

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<v Speaker 1>Trump did on January sixth was loathsome, loathsome and unforgivable.

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<v Speaker 1>But this whole question has been so thoroughly litigated in

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<v Speaker 1>the court of public opinion and the media and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, all right, Jack Smith says Trump didn't care

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<v Speaker 1>about Mike Pence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I heard that at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So soft Air continuing, we have an important showbiz decision

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<v Speaker 1>to make around Tim Walls.

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<v Speaker 4>So we have for a variety of people like go

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<v Speaker 4>to clips like we got Kamala Harris clips we play

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<v Speaker 4>if we mentioned Kamala Harris and Joe Biden clips, you

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<v Speaker 4>know of him fumbling and stumbling when we play him.

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<v Speaker 4>Are Tim Walls has been the mind your own business.

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<v Speaker 4>We got that mind your own damn business. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>been a good go to for Tim Waller.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, mind your own damn business. Or maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>use either of these two.

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<v Speaker 9>So I've become friends with school shooters.

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<v Speaker 4>I've become friends with school shooters. That's a pretty good one.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm dark.

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<v Speaker 2>This one got so much attention out of the debate

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<v Speaker 2>the other night.

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<v Speaker 9>And I'm a knucklehead at times, right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>That has become kind of his explanation for everything.

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<v Speaker 9>And I'm a knucklehead at times.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a knucklehead at times, he said, which uh, one

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<v Speaker 4>of my favorite pundits said, who among us hasn't forgotten

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<v Speaker 4>whether or not they fought in a war, their rank,

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<v Speaker 4>whether or not they used IVF to have children, or

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<v Speaker 4>whether or not they were in a foreign country during

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<v Speaker 4>one of the most famous events in modern history.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a knucklehead at times.

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<v Speaker 9>And I'm a knucklehead at times.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're gonna trot out old man Walls to do

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<v Speaker 1>some interviews and late night appearances and all sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>He seems to deflect most of the criticism legitimate In

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, towards the things he said and done with

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<v Speaker 1>self effacement.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a knucklehead of times. My wife tells me my

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<v Speaker 2>grammar isn't so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, at some point after you play the I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>so dumb card, you know, people are gonna start saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not dumb, why are you running for high office?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want dumby guys in office.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm so dumbhead at times.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean yeah, I'm just so freaking bone stupid

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<v Speaker 4>that I do these things so I should be president.

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<v Speaker 2>Or first in line to be president. That's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good point. And I had.

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<v Speaker 4>Another thing as on this whole. Tim Walls going on

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<v Speaker 4>the shows doing, oh so sixty minutes is it this?

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<v Speaker 4>To your next Sunday, had a deal to interview. There's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be a big sixty minutes episode in October. We're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have both candidates and their running mates on Harrison

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<v Speaker 4>Wallas and Trump and Vance.

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<v Speaker 2>There is an agreement. Trump has backed out.

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<v Speaker 4>Now the reporting you know from the left, so is

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<v Speaker 4>this true or not? Was that Trump didn't want didn't

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<v Speaker 4>agree to, uh, real time fact checking, which you can

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<v Speaker 4>picture Scott Pelly doing while he's interviewing Trump. But but

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<v Speaker 4>I would imagine the reason that Trump's not agreeing to it,

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<v Speaker 4>or as people told him, not agree to it, is

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna watch the sixty minutes episode. Kamala Harris is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna say all kinds of things that either could really

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<v Speaker 4>be disagreed with or at least kind of disagreed with,

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<v Speaker 4>and they'll leave them alone. Whereas Trump every freaking freaking

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<v Speaker 4>thing out of his mouth, they will fact check with

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<v Speaker 4>their version of whether it's right or not, and they

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<v Speaker 4>leave Kamala Harris alone. A bunch of people have pointed

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<v Speaker 4>out since the debate the other night, Walls his claim

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<v Speaker 4>about you mentioned this year today, his claim about the

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<v Speaker 4>job saying easily could have been fact checked on how

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<v Speaker 4>how many jobs were created or whatever. The claim that

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<v Speaker 4>the middle class the Trump tax cuts only went to

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<v Speaker 4>the rich. That has been debunked by Washington Post, New

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<v Speaker 4>York Times, everybody. That's just not true, mostly middle class people.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you could have easily fact checked that, but

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<v Speaker 4>they let that one slide. Of course, the numbers on

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<v Speaker 4>immigration that they claimed wildly.

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<v Speaker 1>Walls unleashed what was characterized in at least one place

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<v Speaker 1>as a howler about immigration, saying fewer people have crossed

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<v Speaker 1>the border during the Harris Biden administration that did under Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny, Old Nora and Margaret.

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<v Speaker 2>They let that one slide.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't fact check that one right where they were

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<v Speaker 4>willing to fact check what jd. Vance said about Walls

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<v Speaker 4>signing that bill into law in Minnesota about a late

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<v Speaker 4>term abortion, and they were wrong on their fact check.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just flat out wrong. So that's so freaking maddening.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would Trump agree to go on sixty minutes, same

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<v Speaker 4>network and say, Okay, yeah, so you're gonna you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>fact check me on everything I say, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>let them say whatever the hell they want, no matter

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<v Speaker 4>how incredibly wrong it is. Why would you agree to that?

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<v Speaker 4>Although it looks really bad because most people don't know this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, politics, all's fair in love, in politics. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is utterly unfair, but it's the warfare that is politics.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's interesting is I'd go ahead and send JD.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance into that very situation because he'd beat them at

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<v Speaker 1>their own game.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe Vance's maybe Advance is doing it. I haven't heard

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<v Speaker 4>that specifically. If Trump and Vance aren't doing the sixty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Jd Vance is plenty capable of handling all of those situations.

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<v Speaker 4>How about that moment in the debate. We didn't play

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<v Speaker 4>this yesterday. How about that moment in the debate after Walls.

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<v Speaker 4>It was during the gun conversation, and Walls mentioned that

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<v Speaker 4>his seventeen year old witness to shooting, and jd. Vance

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<v Speaker 4>turned to him and said, Wow, I'd never heard that

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<v Speaker 4>about your son. God, I'm so sorry that happened. That

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<v Speaker 4>was like as genuine a compassionate moment I can practically

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<v Speaker 4>ever remember seeing a debate that was really striking.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, yeah, yeah, Virtually everybody I've talked to you,

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<v Speaker 1>even in real life about the debate says at least

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<v Speaker 1>they were like gentlemen about the whole thing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a greater taste for the civility as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>the bare knuckled a Trumpian style than it gets credit for.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know a lot of your big time have

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<v Speaker 4>run campaigns. Pundits hated it, thought it was terrible. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>both yeah, go ahead and play we have the.

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<v Speaker 9>Clip, Governor, you have two minutes. Well, I think all

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<v Speaker 9>the parents watching tonight, this is just your biggest nightmare. Look,

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<v Speaker 9>I got a seventeen year old and he witnessed just

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<v Speaker 9>shooting at a community center playing volleyball. Those things don't

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<v Speaker 9>leave you.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Tim.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I didn't know that your seventeen year

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<v Speaker 1>old witness is shooting, and I'm sorry about that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Christ have mercy.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>It is awful, even though I disagreed with both of

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<v Speaker 4>them ultimately on that topic.

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<v Speaker 2>But what was our point here? So what pundits hated it?

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<v Speaker 2>What the civilized tone? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I've seen bunch of not pundits, people that have

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<v Speaker 4>run campaigns, like your former campaign manager type people absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>a mistake for even talking about their own side, like

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<v Speaker 4>Democrat former campaign people saying miss big mistake by Walls

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<v Speaker 4>by not nailing down vans and trying to be Minnesota

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<v Speaker 4>nice when they should have blah blah blah. And people

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<v Speaker 4>on the right who've run campaigns sing the same thing

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<v Speaker 4>about Vance. No, here's an opportunity to absolutely smear him

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<v Speaker 4>as a socialist, and he let him get away with

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<v Speaker 4>coming off as a nice guy. So I thought that

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<v Speaker 4>was interesting that your real hardcore political operatives hated the niceties,

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<v Speaker 4>while the rest of us liked, Yeah, well, this shows

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<v Speaker 4>you what those people are like. Well, politics is an ugly, grubby,

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<v Speaker 4>a moral world, and everything is on the line for

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<v Speaker 4>those people because you either have a job for the

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<v Speaker 4>next two, four or six years where you're looking for work.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, their only principle is to win. Just keep that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind. Speaking politics, something obvious occurred to me. You

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<v Speaker 1>give me long enough, I'll come up with the obvious

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<v Speaker 1>about Donald J. Trump and the dock workers and that

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<v Speaker 1>whole strike situation which is probably going to mess up

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<v Speaker 1>the economy pretty significantly.

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<v Speaker 4>We got another good clip from our guy who runs

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<v Speaker 4>the union man.

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<v Speaker 2>He is something else. Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 4>We like the opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal today,

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<v Speaker 4>Betley drivers of the world unite about the Betley driving

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<v Speaker 4>guy who runs the union for the long sharman. And

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<v Speaker 4>as we've been saying, if you don't want people to

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<v Speaker 4>whisper about mob ties, try not to sound like a mobster.

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<v Speaker 8>Now I have the President screaming at me, I'm putting

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<v Speaker 8>a taff holly on.

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<v Speaker 2>You go ahead, taft.

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<v Speaker 8>Holly means I have to go back to work for

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<v Speaker 8>ninety days after cooling you off.

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<v Speaker 2>Period do you.

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<v Speaker 8>Think when I go back to ninety days, those men

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<v Speaker 8>are going to go to work on that pid. It's

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<v Speaker 8>going to cost the money, the company's money to pay

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<v Speaker 8>the salaries.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the one from thirty moves and now maybe the eight.

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<v Speaker 8>They're gonna be like this, who's gonna win here In

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<v Speaker 8>the long run, You're better off sitting.

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<v Speaker 2>Down and let's.

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<v Speaker 8>Get a contract and let's move on.

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<v Speaker 2>With this world and today's world. I'll cripple you. I

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<v Speaker 2>will cripple you. And you have no idea what that means.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, And the go like this, he puts his hand

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<v Speaker 4>on his neck, suggesting that they're going to claim they're

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<v Speaker 4>hurt so they don't have to move the stuff away,

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<v Speaker 4>unload the containers, and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That is something that is some from thirty containers an

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 2>hour to eight, that's some serious hardball right there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the challenges of this job is that

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<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with thirty stories at once and trying to

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>get everything together for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But we were talking about the fact that Donald J.

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<v Speaker 1>Biden of course, has come out and say those hard

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<v Speaker 1>working doctor workers deserve justice and income equality.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm with them all the way. Donald union.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Kama today late yesterday or today has said they

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<v Speaker 4>need their fair share. Those big shipping companies are making

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<v Speaker 4>billions of dollars record profits and the dock workers deserve

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<v Speaker 4>their fair share of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And I was somewhat surprised to see Donald Jay

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<v Speaker 1>say American workers should be able to negotiate for better wages,

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<v Speaker 1>especially since the shipping companies are mostly.

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<v Speaker 2>Foreign flag vessels.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was making noises, you know, in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>the striking workers. Now it's worth mentioning that most ocean

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>carriers are foreign because union work rules have rendered US

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>shipbuilding and shipping so incredibly expensive. That's uncompetitive globally. But

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<v Speaker 1>having said that, the obvious occurred to me. Donald Jay

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<v Speaker 1>is making a charitable noises like that because there is

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<v Speaker 1>an unmistakable movement of blue collar and union workers moving

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<v Speaker 1>to the Republican Party, and he doesn't want to upset

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<v Speaker 1>the teamsters in Pennsylvania with saying even anything mildly critical

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<v Speaker 1>about the dock worker guys, especially not right now. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's probably figuring. And this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things I wish i'd realized earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>As a parent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you got a kid who can't catch a cold,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind a baseball, and they're utterly convinced they're going.

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<v Speaker 2>To be a major league player or or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And you might be tempted so their hopes aren't dashed

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<v Speaker 1>cruelly by the world, to maybe try to talk him

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<v Speaker 1>off that, right, you gotta be really, really careful, because

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>their dreams are gonna get dashed. Sure enough. It can

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>either be you or the world who dashes them. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tough balancing, you know, you know, maybe you'd

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>be there to put a hand around their shoulder when

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the world tells them, hey, you suck at baseball, all right.

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Having said that, Donald J.

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<v Speaker 1>Realizes this is going to get worked out, and it

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>could be painful, it could be expensive, it could threw

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>up the economy, and sooner or later they're going to

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>strike a deal, whether I open my hap or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe I just say, hey, they're working people built

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>America and they should be able to negotiate, which is

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 1>true obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Just stay the hell out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>They play sixty five again, because there's that one part

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<v Speaker 4>I want to get on.

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<v Speaker 2>There, Sisters and brothers of the ISLA.

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<v Speaker 8>I am disgusted to hear the comment South Carolina Governor

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<v Speaker 8>Henry mcmastus made in his State of the State address

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<v Speaker 8>in late January attacking labor union and IOLA and.

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<v Speaker 2>Particularly that's what we wanted and particularly, And he is

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<v Speaker 2>not the poet laureate. He's a dock workers union guy, Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>Who Bentley and has a seventy foot yacht and lives

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 4>in a two million dollar house.

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<v Speaker 2>It's seventy six feet seventy feet. Please armstrong and Getty