Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and get Katie and now he Armstrong and Jetty.
Speaker 3: Of the nearly two hundred missiles fired by Iran, Israeli
Speaker 3: defenses shot down almost all of them, not without the
Speaker 3: help of US destroyers based in the Eastern Mediterranean. The
Speaker 3: Israeli military has vowed to strike back. We have the
Speaker 3: capabilities to reach any point to the Middle East, said
Speaker 3: the head of the Armed Forces. Our enemies who have
Speaker 3: not understood this yet will soon understand. Israeli military video
Speaker 3: shows troops advancing through the mountains of southern Lebanon as
Speaker 3: it announced close quarter fighting with Hezbolah. Thousands more are
Speaker 3: being sent north as part of what the Israeli military
Speaker 3: is calling a limited ground operation.
Speaker 4: So that's interesting and I like a lot of people
Speaker 4: have been wondering what is the Israeli gonna response going
Speaker 4: to be?
Speaker 2: How big is it going to be?
Speaker 4: I mean, is it going to be full regime change,
Speaker 4: like try to take out the Ayatola take out There
Speaker 4: are nuclear facilities, they're oil refineries, all that different sort
Speaker 4: of stuff. Maybe not as much as I thought. We'll
Speaker 4: have that for you in just a second. But here's
Speaker 4: a CBS reporter who got a tour of a town,
Speaker 4: and they're in Lebanon, where the Hesbla people are pretty popular, apparently.
Speaker 5: Southern Bayiruk suburb of Dahia, the seat of Hesbola's power.
Speaker 5: Israeli airstrikes targeted Dahia relentlessly. We were only given access
Speaker 5: as part of a large media tour organized by the
Speaker 5: Milton Group following the Israeli assassination of its leader, custom Disrella.
Speaker 5: This man yells, we will not surrender. We followed Nosreela,
Speaker 5: this man who said we are all Norella. So if
Speaker 5: Israel was fighting one person, they are now fighting the
Speaker 5: entire nation.
Speaker 2: We are all in ISRAELA.
Speaker 4: I don't know how many people leave that sentiment there
Speaker 4: in southern Lebanon, but.
Speaker 2: There's that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a great deal of resentment of Hesbala as well.
Speaker 2: It depends who you ask.
Speaker 4: So Joe Biden was asked yesterday, what do you think
Speaker 4: of Israel taking out the nuclear facilities there in Iran?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, no response needs to be proportional. Why we wouldn't
Speaker 4: advocate keeping Iran from getting a bomb. I guess you
Speaker 4: did want to go back to your old boss's plan.
Speaker 4: If you just keep giving Iran more money and thinking
Speaker 4: at some point they'll just decide not to want a
Speaker 4: nuclear weapon or something.
Speaker 2: I don't I've never understood that theory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they won't take the money and keep developing the nukes.
Speaker 1: There's no chance of that.
Speaker 2: But this shocked me.
Speaker 4: From the New York Times, several senior Biden officials, speaking
Speaker 4: on a condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive conversations, said
Speaker 4: yesterday that Israeli officials have told them privately that they
Speaker 4: do not feel the need to hit back against Iran
Speaker 4: in an immediate and massive way.
Speaker 2: I hadn't heard this anywhere yet.
Speaker 4: Officials in the United States and Europe feared that Israel
Speaker 4: could hit economic tiggets in Iran that would prompt the
Speaker 4: dangerous escalatory reaction Tehran has long wouldn't I know. Tehran
Speaker 4: has long signaled that attacks on its oil and gas
Speaker 4: industry would be a red line. A senior European official said,
Speaker 4: so we're announcing we're scared of Iran. That's a good idea.
Speaker 4: Such a strike would probably prompt retaliatory attacks. From Iran
Speaker 4: on Western energy assets, potentially disrupting the global economy one
Speaker 4: month before the presidential election.
Speaker 1: Well that's there, you go, that last phrase. That's what
Speaker 1: a lot of it is about. And the rest of
Speaker 1: it is utterly dishonest. First of all, the idea that
Speaker 1: we don't want a dangerous escalation where Iran like gets
Speaker 1: really mad or something. It's already on. Okay, the war
Speaker 1: is on Iran has been defanged. Two most powerful proxies
Speaker 1: are fighting for their lives, and those are the two
Speaker 1: attack dogs they always threatened Israel with. They didn't threaten
Speaker 1: them with, and we'll fire two hundred and twelve ballistic
Speaker 1: missiles at you. They threatened them with, Yeah, we'll send
Speaker 1: our attack dogs in the region right at Israel and
Speaker 1: we're going to fight the hell out of you. Well,
Speaker 1: what are you going to do now your attack dogs
Speaker 1: are defanged?
Speaker 2: Well, right?
Speaker 4: And then in terms of launching an attack from your
Speaker 4: own country? Am I supposed to believe that the two
Speaker 4: hundred ballistic missiles were That's not our best stuff. We
Speaker 4: got way better stuff. We're just holding back for some reason.
Speaker 4: What I don't know that I buy that. I am
Speaker 4: so disgusted by Joe Biden. I disagreed a lot with
Speaker 4: Barack Obama. I thought he was wrong. I thought he
Speaker 4: not born here, oh boy.
Speaker 2: I thought his.
Speaker 1: Theory of international relations was that of an academic overly
Speaker 1: in love with his own persuasive powers and intellect and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But at least I felt like there
Speaker 1: was coh to it. It was wrong, it was just incoherent.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry it was wrong, but it was coherent. Joe
Speaker 1: Biden is just spineless.
Speaker 2: He is utterly unable to make a risky decision.
Speaker 1: Ever, He's one of the most gray milk toast, cowardly
Speaker 1: spineless people I've ever seen in a position of power.
Speaker 2: It's just I'm just so sick of him.
Speaker 1: And as we can't escalate, it's got to be proportional.
Speaker 1: Here's an idea for you, Joe. And this has been
Speaker 1: true since the dawn of man. You make your adversaries
Speaker 1: so afraid to mess with you, they don't mess with you,
Speaker 1: and you have peace and tranquility. And then with that
Speaker 1: power you have, you exercise it compassionately and with justice.
Speaker 2: You help the downtrodden.
Speaker 1: You send aircraft carriers to tsunami sites, You act with
Speaker 1: decency and kindness, but yes, strength, enormous, overwhelming strength. Israel
Speaker 1: has the chance to knock it around back by a
Speaker 1: decade in terms of being a regional and perhaps global threat.
Speaker 2: You gotta do it.
Speaker 1: If Tally Bennett, who we've quoted a couple of times,
Speaker 1: he's the former Israeli Prime minister, said has Boll and
Speaker 1: Hamas are paralyzed temporarily, and Iran is exposed right now,
Speaker 1: they're naked, they don't have the ability to protect themselves.
Speaker 1: Israel has the greatest opportunity in fifty years to change
Speaker 1: the face of the Middle East.
Speaker 4: The National Review editorial board has a piece today. Their
Speaker 4: editors have a piece, actually it came out yesterday basically saying, remember,
Speaker 4: this is all Obama's fault, and they're just carrying on
Speaker 4: the same strategy of you know, let's just deal with them,
Speaker 4: give them more money, loosen up money so that they
Speaker 4: won't need to get a nuclear weapon, or I don't
Speaker 4: even under I never understood.
Speaker 2: The philosophy at all.
Speaker 4: I hear it brought up on your lefty cable news
Speaker 4: channels all the time, and Ian Bremmer brings it up.
Speaker 2: I like, but all the time, just.
Speaker 4: Say Trump got out of the Iranian nuclear deal that
Speaker 4: Obama put together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was working, graz was it? Oh? Uh?
Speaker 4: Anyway, So they point that out and that at every
Speaker 4: turn I'll read from it. At every escalation by Iran,
Speaker 4: the response by the Biden Harris administration has been to
Speaker 4: show weakness. They always talk about their ironclad support for Israel,
Speaker 4: but it's failed to recognize that defensive measures against Iran
Speaker 4: can only go so far when they aren't accompanied by
Speaker 4: a strong offensive response to re establish deterrence.
Speaker 2: There's no deterrence.
Speaker 4: So their final paragraph is this time the response to
Speaker 4: Iranian aggression must be different. For the second time in
Speaker 4: five months, Iran has fired hundreds of projectiles at Israel
Speaker 4: thanks to the gains the regime is believed to have
Speaker 4: made in uranium enrichment under the Biden Harris administration. There's
Speaker 4: simply no way Israel can take the chance that the
Speaker 4: next time Iran launches such an attack, some of the missiles.
Speaker 2: Could be loaded with nuclear warheads.
Speaker 4: It's believed that Iran's within a couple of weeks if
Speaker 4: they decided to go to get a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2: Why would you not interrupt that?
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't we be in favor of Israel, interrupting that
Speaker 4: it's hard to imagine the reasons I've just enunciated about
Speaker 4: the head of our government Defense Israel. Israel's Defense Minister
Speaker 4: Joev Galan, who has disagreed rather vehemently with net Nyahou
Speaker 4: on various questions in recent days, said Iran has not
Speaker 4: learned a simple lesson. Those who attack the State of
Speaker 4: Israel pay a heavy price. The heavier the price, the
Speaker 4: rarer the attacks. Well, you know, I don't know nothing,
Speaker 4: but Iran's in the weakest position it's been and we
Speaker 4: got a couple of aircraft carriers and nearly fifty thousand
Speaker 4: troops around the United States. Does when would be a
Speaker 4: better time to attack Iran than when they're weak and
Speaker 4: when the biggest bully in the world.
Speaker 2: Has got your back? I mean, is right there? Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4: But that's interesting. So you think the sources, speaking on
Speaker 4: the condition of anonymity they're quoting in the New York
Speaker 4: Times is what do you think that is?
Speaker 2: I think that's crap. I don't know what to think.
Speaker 4: It's it's shocking to me if it's true that Israeli
Speaker 4: officials are telling the Biden people we're not gonna we're
Speaker 4: not going to go very big in anytime soon.
Speaker 1: I just find that impossible to believe. It could be
Speaker 1: pre spin. They could just be turning down the heat
Speaker 1: on the burner of their American Israeli relations, and then
Speaker 1: when the attack comes, it's going to be a big
Speaker 1: and nasty get to forgiveness, not permission. They're probably thinking.
Speaker 4: That, yeah, well, they didn't alert the Biden administration to
Speaker 4: the snuffing of Azraala, And you do that on purpose,
Speaker 4: so that you know, Biden isn't put in a position
Speaker 4: politically where he says, yeah, I knew about it, but
Speaker 4: I couldn't stop them, or I didn't stop them, or whatever.
Speaker 4: You on purpose, don't tell them. It's doing them a favor.
Speaker 4: Works for both sides.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh, we'll see how that goes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I worry that some of our brethren on the right
Speaker 1: who are of a more what word would they use, Well,
Speaker 1: they always go on about forever wars.
Speaker 2: If that's an argument, it's just a slogan.
Speaker 4: I don't know what you'd call it as a philosophy,
Speaker 4: but I have heard from a number of people I
Speaker 4: know enough for it to like make me think it's
Speaker 4: a wave of people that I know are are super red,
Speaker 4: super trumpy. We say we got to get out of
Speaker 4: these wars. That's the phrase I keep hearing, we got
Speaker 4: to get out of these wars. That And so I
Speaker 4: don't know how much of the right feels that way now,
Speaker 4: but I definitely feel like it's growing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree completely, And and it's one, you know,
Speaker 1: relevant and appropriate discussion. To what extent and in what
Speaker 1: way should the United States project its power around the globe?
Speaker 1: Where and when that's that's a great discussion, and you
Speaker 1: might think less than I do. But some of it
Speaker 1: becomes this simplistic, classic isolationism that was a mistake forty
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 2: And now that you can.
Speaker 1: Reach out and touch someone from anywhere on the globe,
Speaker 1: the idea that we ought to retreat to our own
Speaker 1: shores and mind our own business in the world won't
Speaker 1: come looking for us.
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's true. I think it's naive
Speaker 2: a lot of it. But there are subtleties involved.
Speaker 1: And if you're of that, you know, ideology or thought
Speaker 1: that we're describing, you know, knock us out an email
Speaker 1: mail bag at Armstrong and Getty dot com if you've
Speaker 1: dissent is welcomed here.
Speaker 4: I'm sure Trump's aware of how much of his party
Speaker 4: feels that way and probably has a you know, some
Speaker 4: pretty good pulling on it. A lot of it's led
Speaker 4: by Tucker Carl Carlson and others like him. We got,
Speaker 4: we got to stay out of these wars, equating Iraq,
Speaker 4: which was practically pointless and Afghanistan, which was handled incredible
Speaker 4: poorly for many decades. With these two situations which are very,
Speaker 4: very different. Oh yeah, yeah, that's just silly. Anyway, Is
Speaker 4: it going to be fun to follow over the coming months, years,
Speaker 4: and decades, perhaps centuries, although I won't be around for that.
Speaker 2: We got a lot more on the way. Stay here.
Speaker 4: I don't know where you all are, but here in
Speaker 4: northern California where we broadcast from, it's been like one
Speaker 4: hundred and five degrees the first couple of days of October.
Speaker 2: What the hell? The climate is changing.
Speaker 4: I refuse to use individual days or weather events to
Speaker 4: confirm that, but I and.
Speaker 2: I agree the climate is changing.
Speaker 4: Yes, because from where I'm from, it used to snow
Speaker 4: and it doesn't snow anymore.
Speaker 2: I mean that's pretty major change.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, what I didn't get to the second
Speaker 1: aspect of the devastating damage done to in particular or
Speaker 1: western North Carolina, the recent hurricane that packed tremendous power.
Speaker 1: Even if it has it got far further north than
Speaker 1: hurricanes generally do any damage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ashville is a long way from the coast. Oh yes,
Speaker 2: it's way up in the mountains. Anyway.
Speaker 1: It's a part of it's about the Brown Ocean, which
Speaker 1: is something I had in all my years on the
Speaker 1: planet not been aware of. If there is like really
Speaker 1: heavy rainfall in a region and the ground is pretty saturated, hurricane,
Speaker 1: a tropical storm can actually pick up moisture and power
Speaker 1: out of the ground as it as it covers you know,
Speaker 1: the ground and gains strength as if it's going over
Speaker 1: the Gulf of Mexico with its warm waters.
Speaker 2: And that's what happened here. They call it the Brown Ocean.
Speaker 2: I don't like that term.
Speaker 4: It either sounds disgusting or sexual or something you're.
Speaker 1: A child, wake up and smell the meteorology.
Speaker 2: Anyway. I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 1: The other aspect of it that I brought up was
Speaker 1: that it has devastated all sorts of red towns and
Speaker 1: counties in western North Carolina, and the authorities are not
Speaker 1: sure they can get the together, the whole the procedures,
Speaker 1: the polling places, the mail out, mail in ballots, all
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: That is interesting.
Speaker 4: And also I meant to mention this, this is a
Speaker 4: burbling thing in circles on the right who take in
Speaker 4: a lot of social media. The response and a lot
Speaker 4: of this. Brit Hume retweeted this, I saw if what
Speaker 4: this man is saying about helicopters it could have saved
Speaker 4: live staying grounded because of a lack of orders is true.
Speaker 4: It is a scandal. There's a lot of that flying
Speaker 4: around on social media. I don't know how much of
Speaker 4: it is accurate or not, of people who are trying
Speaker 4: to rescue and getting thwarted by you know, mall cops,
Speaker 4: people who are really flexing their authority rightly or wrongly,
Speaker 4: and not allowing things to get fixed.
Speaker 2: And it's become a huge problem.
Speaker 4: And the multiple deaths are being attributed to this interesting
Speaker 4: and there's so much you know, mayhem going on right now.
Speaker 4: The stories haven't been able to get out. But as
Speaker 4: Hume points out, there if some of these stories are
Speaker 4: the way they sound like, somebody saying I was going
Speaker 4: to try to rescue them off the roof, but the
Speaker 4: local deputy fire chief for the county, who's never been
Speaker 4: able to tell anybody what to do before in his life,
Speaker 4: wouldn't let us do it, and then people died. If
Speaker 4: some of these story stories turn out to be true,
Speaker 4: they're gonna be quite scandalous.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess if it's just local authorities, I don't think
Speaker 1: it means anything except locally.
Speaker 4: But well yeah, yeah, no, I'm not making it claiming
Speaker 4: it has a presidential significance or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I'm not neither anti lar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people are working really hard to
Speaker 1: make this political life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, surely rings true, though, doesn't it.
Speaker 4: Tavin't you had that experience, you know, the person that
Speaker 4: gets well, we saw it during COVID over and over
Speaker 4: and over again, your county health person.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, So completely different topic.
Speaker 1: Two Harvard students have created an eerie demo of how
Speaker 1: smart glasses, including the new ray Ban Meta smart glasses,
Speaker 1: can use facial recognition tech to instantly diex people's identities,
Speaker 1: phone numbers, addresses, relatives, the whole deal.
Speaker 2: I didn't know I knew.
Speaker 4: Facial recognition technology was pretty good. They're using it at
Speaker 4: airports and ball games. But I didn't know like I
Speaker 4: had access to it, did you?
Speaker 1: This is all currently available stuff technology public databases. One
Speaker 1: of the two students posted a video showcasing the tech
Speaker 1: in action that got picked up by other media. The
Speaker 1: tech works by using the meta smart classes ability to
Speaker 1: live stream video to Instagram. A computer program then monitors
Speaker 1: that stream and uses AI to identify faces. Those photos
Speaker 1: are then fed into public databases to find names, addresses,
Speaker 1: phone numbers, and even relatives. That information is then fed
Speaker 1: back through a phone app. Now, these are smart college
Speaker 1: kids with a great deal of computer literacy obviously, but
Speaker 1: it's using all readily available stuff.
Speaker 4: And it will be something that even I could use
Speaker 4: six months from now.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they show him using the lasses to identify
Speaker 1: several classmates, their addresses, and names of relatives in real time.
Speaker 1: They do the same with complete strangers on public transits.
Speaker 2: Boy, that's coming. That is going to be the future.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Geeddy.
Speaker 1: Thinking it's a bit of an administrative snaff oo. Michael
Speaker 1: wasn't actually in the room when we decided which clip
Speaker 1: to come back, right, That's.
Speaker 2: What I was waiting for the clip.
Speaker 1: But that's when I don't think we need a consultant
Speaker 1: to point out the problem with that process. I've looked
Speaker 1: over the problem, and it seems to be you didn't
Speaker 1: tell the guy who has the ability to play the
Speaker 1: clips that he needs to play the clips. The breakdown
Speaker 1: appears to be right here in the process. Michael, if
Speaker 1: you would played clip forty, we would all be gratified.
Speaker 7: The Special Council focusing in particular on Trump's alleged interactions
Speaker 7: with then Vice President Mike Pence, who had refused Trump's
Speaker 7: insistence he stopped the electoral certification on January sixth. Throughout
Speaker 7: the one hundred and sixty five page filing, Smith makes
Speaker 7: the case Trump was acting as a candidate or private citizen,
Speaker 7: not as president, but he was claiming the election was stolen.
Speaker 7: The new filing also alleges Trump allies sought to create chaos,
Speaker 7: including one unnamed Trump supporter shortly after the election, encouraging
Speaker 7: protests even to make them riot.
Speaker 2: For Trump paiding media. This is the biggest story in America.
Speaker 4: It's led every newscast the fact that Smith is still
Speaker 4: trying to bring down Trump. Around January sixth, and figure
Speaker 4: a way around that Supreme Court ruling on immunity, and
Speaker 4: they released a whole bunch of details with this many
Speaker 4: page report yesterday. The question being why did you release
Speaker 4: this in October, weeks before a presidential election. Is there
Speaker 4: any reason that you released it other than to political
Speaker 4: trying to damage Trump before an election?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they've unleashed the prosecutions case in a criminal trial.
Speaker 1: So does the defense now go, how do we do
Speaker 1: this when we're trying a case in public like this
Speaker 1: mister in the media, It's interesting, the learned and eloquent
Speaker 1: Jonathan Turley commenting on this forty six place.
Speaker 6: The timing is concerning. Jack Smith knows that this election
Speaker 6: will be the largest jury verdict in history, and this
Speaker 6: comes across as his closing election argument. You know, this
Speaker 6: is the argument against Trump. It's one sided, it's quite elaborate,
Speaker 6: but it is an argument that he wants out there
Speaker 6: before the election, and that will remain troubling for a
Speaker 6: lot of people. It's not going to change a lot
Speaker 6: of minds. But you know, he goes through every detail here.
Speaker 4: I can't believe this happened. It's very James Comy like
Speaker 4: in that you're you're claiming, well, if I had kept
Speaker 4: it secret, I could be blamed for being political by
Speaker 4: not allowing this information to come out. How about you
Speaker 4: air toward will of an investoration is still going on
Speaker 4: or something hasn't been determined.
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep it secret, right right, or just sit on it.
Speaker 1: You don't normally publish this sort of stuff anyway. This
Speaker 1: is an amusing aspect of this whole deal. As I
Speaker 1: said earlier, the Smith indictment is just the old indictment,
Speaker 1: but removing the stuff that's demonstrably Trump doing his official
Speaker 1: duties as president because the Supreme Court said you have
Speaker 1: immunity for that, and so Smith is figuring out, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is as a candidate, this is his private activities,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: So this is the stuff will emphasize.
Speaker 1: But it's the same indictment, just cleansed of some of
Speaker 1: the stuff that Supreme Court said.
Speaker 2: No no to.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: Jake Tapper, on the lead on CNN, was launching into
Speaker 1: a story and the graphic running across the bottom of
Speaker 1: the screen said Smith provides never before seeing evidence from
Speaker 1: twenty twenty election case against Trump.
Speaker 2: So that was CNN's narrative that's quite time.
Speaker 4: I would grab my eyes. I would think, wow, stuff
Speaker 4: we haven't heard yet. Well I just seen this.
Speaker 2: But clip forty five, Michael, this is how it actually sounded.
Speaker 1: With polling and our team of intrepid reporters who have
Speaker 1: been combing through this filing.
Speaker 2: Let me start with you, Paula.
Speaker 8: Walk us through then major headlines in this filing and
Speaker 8: the ones that we have not seen before.
Speaker 2: Paula, are you ready?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean no, we.
Speaker 2: Haven't seen We're on right now.
Speaker 1: We're sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you're so distracted by going home.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, I mean I want to say there isn't
Speaker 4: a lot that we haven't really seen before.
Speaker 2: Oh that's not what he was hoping for when you
Speaker 2: got in, John as we haven't seen never.
Speaker 4: Before, bombshell reporting. Not a lot of here we haven't
Speaker 4: seen before. Jake, Oh we're all here.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: She wasn't sure what to say that there's not a
Speaker 1: lot we haven't seen before.
Speaker 2: Jake, don't hurt me, don't hurt me. I this is
Speaker 2: my guess.
Speaker 4: Maybe this will sound partisan, but this is what I
Speaker 4: actually think. I think the crowd that hates Trump and
Speaker 4: wasn't going to vote for it for him. This has
Speaker 4: no effect on whatsoever other than yet, I'm still not
Speaker 4: voting for him because I hate him and he's this
Speaker 4: guy and the other side it's going to be, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: that's right. They're constantly trying to use the legal system
Speaker 4: to try to stop Trump from being president. I was
Speaker 4: kind of thinking, I'm going to vote. Now I'm absolutely
Speaker 4: going to vote.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it will have some of that effect. Now, what
Speaker 1: in our we happen to share the opinion that what
Speaker 1: Trump did on January sixth was loathsome, loathsome and unforgivable.
Speaker 1: But this whole question has been so thoroughly litigated in
Speaker 1: the court of public opinion and the media and everything else.
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, Jack Smith says Trump didn't care
Speaker 1: about Mike Pence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard that at the time.
Speaker 1: So soft Air continuing, we have an important showbiz decision
Speaker 1: to make around Tim Walls.
Speaker 4: So we have for a variety of people like go
Speaker 4: to clips like we got Kamala Harris clips we play
Speaker 4: if we mentioned Kamala Harris and Joe Biden clips, you
Speaker 4: know of him fumbling and stumbling when we play him.
Speaker 4: Are Tim Walls has been the mind your own business.
Speaker 4: We got that mind your own damn business. So that's
Speaker 4: been a good go to for Tim Waller.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, mind your own damn business. Or maybe we
Speaker 2: use either of these two.
Speaker 9: So I've become friends with school shooters.
Speaker 4: I've become friends with school shooters. That's a pretty good one.
Speaker 4: But I'm dark.
Speaker 2: This one got so much attention out of the debate
Speaker 2: the other night.
Speaker 9: And I'm a knucklehead at times, right, So.
Speaker 2: That has become kind of his explanation for everything.
Speaker 9: And I'm a knucklehead at times.
Speaker 4: I'm a knucklehead at times, he said, which uh, one
Speaker 4: of my favorite pundits said, who among us hasn't forgotten
Speaker 4: whether or not they fought in a war, their rank,
Speaker 4: whether or not they used IVF to have children, or
Speaker 4: whether or not they were in a foreign country during
Speaker 4: one of the most famous events in modern history.
Speaker 2: Just a knucklehead at times.
Speaker 9: And I'm a knucklehead at times.
Speaker 2: What happens.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna trot out old man Walls to do
Speaker 1: some interviews and late night appearances and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 2: Here's the problem.
Speaker 1: He seems to deflect most of the criticism legitimate In
Speaker 1: my mind, towards the things he said and done with
Speaker 1: self effacement.
Speaker 2: I'm a knucklehead of times. My wife tells me my
Speaker 2: grammar isn't so good.
Speaker 1: Well, at some point after you play the I'm just
Speaker 1: so dumb card, you know, people are gonna start saying, well,
Speaker 1: if you're not dumb, why are you running for high office?
Speaker 2: I don't want dumby guys in office.
Speaker 9: I'm so dumbhead at times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, I'm just so freaking bone stupid
Speaker 4: that I do these things so I should be president.
Speaker 2: Or first in line to be president. That's a pretty
Speaker 2: good point. And I had.
Speaker 4: Another thing as on this whole. Tim Walls going on
Speaker 4: the shows doing, oh so sixty minutes is it this?
Speaker 4: To your next Sunday, had a deal to interview. There's
Speaker 4: gonna be a big sixty minutes episode in October. We're
Speaker 4: gonna have both candidates and their running mates on Harrison
Speaker 4: Wallas and Trump and Vance.
Speaker 2: There is an agreement. Trump has backed out.
Speaker 4: Now the reporting you know from the left, so is
Speaker 4: this true or not? Was that Trump didn't want didn't
Speaker 4: agree to, uh, real time fact checking, which you can
Speaker 4: picture Scott Pelly doing while he's interviewing Trump. But but
Speaker 4: I would imagine the reason that Trump's not agreeing to it,
Speaker 4: or as people told him, not agree to it, is
Speaker 4: You're gonna watch the sixty minutes episode. Kamala Harris is
Speaker 4: gonna say all kinds of things that either could really
Speaker 4: be disagreed with or at least kind of disagreed with,
Speaker 4: and they'll leave them alone. Whereas Trump every freaking freaking
Speaker 4: thing out of his mouth, they will fact check with
Speaker 4: their version of whether it's right or not, and they
Speaker 4: leave Kamala Harris alone. A bunch of people have pointed
Speaker 4: out since the debate the other night, Walls his claim
Speaker 4: about you mentioned this year today, his claim about the
Speaker 4: job saying easily could have been fact checked on how
Speaker 4: how many jobs were created or whatever. The claim that
Speaker 4: the middle class the Trump tax cuts only went to
Speaker 4: the rich. That has been debunked by Washington Post, New
Speaker 4: York Times, everybody. That's just not true, mostly middle class people.
Speaker 4: I mean, you could have easily fact checked that, but
Speaker 4: they let that one slide. Of course, the numbers on
Speaker 4: immigration that they claimed wildly.
Speaker 1: Walls unleashed what was characterized in at least one place
Speaker 1: as a howler about immigration, saying fewer people have crossed
Speaker 1: the border during the Harris Biden administration that did under Trump.
Speaker 1: And it's funny, Old Nora and Margaret.
Speaker 2: They let that one slide.
Speaker 4: They didn't fact check that one right where they were
Speaker 4: willing to fact check what jd. Vance said about Walls
Speaker 4: signing that bill into law in Minnesota about a late
Speaker 4: term abortion, and they were wrong on their fact check.
Speaker 2: They were just flat out wrong. So that's so freaking maddening.
Speaker 4: Why would Trump agree to go on sixty minutes, same
Speaker 4: network and say, Okay, yeah, so you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 4: fact check me on everything I say, and you're gonna
Speaker 4: let them say whatever the hell they want, no matter
Speaker 4: how incredibly wrong it is. Why would you agree to that?
Speaker 4: Although it looks really bad because most people don't know this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, politics, all's fair in love, in politics. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is utterly unfair, but it's the warfare that is politics.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is I'd go ahead and send JD.
Speaker 1: Vance into that very situation because he'd beat them at
Speaker 1: their own game.
Speaker 4: Maybe Vance's maybe Advance is doing it. I haven't heard
Speaker 4: that specifically. If Trump and Vance aren't doing the sixty minutes.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: Jd Vance is plenty capable of handling all of those situations.
Speaker 4: How about that moment in the debate. We didn't play
Speaker 4: this yesterday. How about that moment in the debate after Walls.
Speaker 4: It was during the gun conversation, and Walls mentioned that
Speaker 4: his seventeen year old witness to shooting, and jd. Vance
Speaker 4: turned to him and said, Wow, I'd never heard that
Speaker 4: about your son. God, I'm so sorry that happened. That
Speaker 4: was like as genuine a compassionate moment I can practically
Speaker 4: ever remember seeing a debate that was really striking.
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, yeah, Virtually everybody I've talked to you,
Speaker 1: even in real life about the debate says at least
Speaker 1: they were like gentlemen about the whole thing. I think
Speaker 1: there's a greater taste for the civility as opposed to
Speaker 1: the bare knuckled a Trumpian style than it gets credit for.
Speaker 4: I don't know a lot of your big time have
Speaker 4: run campaigns. Pundits hated it, thought it was terrible. I'm
Speaker 4: both yeah, go ahead and play we have the.
Speaker 9: Clip, Governor, you have two minutes. Well, I think all
Speaker 9: the parents watching tonight, this is just your biggest nightmare. Look,
Speaker 9: I got a seventeen year old and he witnessed just
Speaker 9: shooting at a community center playing volleyball. Those things don't
Speaker 9: leave you.
Speaker 2: Senator Tim.
Speaker 1: First of all, I didn't know that your seventeen year
Speaker 1: old witness is shooting, and I'm sorry about that, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Christ have mercy.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 4: It is awful, even though I disagreed with both of
Speaker 4: them ultimately on that topic.
Speaker 2: But what was our point here? So what pundits hated it?
Speaker 2: What the civilized tone? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I've seen bunch of not pundits, people that have
Speaker 4: run campaigns, like your former campaign manager type people absolutely
Speaker 4: a mistake for even talking about their own side, like
Speaker 4: Democrat former campaign people saying miss big mistake by Walls
Speaker 4: by not nailing down vans and trying to be Minnesota
Speaker 4: nice when they should have blah blah blah. And people
Speaker 4: on the right who've run campaigns sing the same thing
Speaker 4: about Vance. No, here's an opportunity to absolutely smear him
Speaker 4: as a socialist, and he let him get away with
Speaker 4: coming off as a nice guy. So I thought that
Speaker 4: was interesting that your real hardcore political operatives hated the niceties,
Speaker 4: while the rest of us liked, Yeah, well, this shows
Speaker 4: you what those people are like. Well, politics is an ugly, grubby,
Speaker 4: a moral world, and everything is on the line for
Speaker 4: those people because you either have a job for the
Speaker 4: next two, four or six years where you're looking for work.
Speaker 1: Right, their only principle is to win. Just keep that
Speaker 1: in mind. Speaking politics, something obvious occurred to me. You
Speaker 1: give me long enough, I'll come up with the obvious
Speaker 1: about Donald J. Trump and the dock workers and that
Speaker 1: whole strike situation which is probably going to mess up
Speaker 1: the economy pretty significantly.
Speaker 4: We got another good clip from our guy who runs
Speaker 4: the union man.
Speaker 2: He is something else. Stay with us.
Speaker 4: We like the opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal today,
Speaker 4: Betley drivers of the world unite about the Betley driving
Speaker 4: guy who runs the union for the long sharman. And
Speaker 4: as we've been saying, if you don't want people to
Speaker 4: whisper about mob ties, try not to sound like a mobster.
Speaker 8: Now I have the President screaming at me, I'm putting
Speaker 8: a taff holly on.
Speaker 2: You go ahead, taft.
Speaker 8: Holly means I have to go back to work for
Speaker 8: ninety days after cooling you off.
Speaker 2: Period do you.
Speaker 8: Think when I go back to ninety days, those men
Speaker 8: are going to go to work on that pid. It's
Speaker 8: going to cost the money, the company's money to pay
Speaker 8: the salaries.
Speaker 2: Well, the one from thirty moves and now maybe the eight.
Speaker 8: They're gonna be like this, who's gonna win here In
Speaker 8: the long run, You're better off sitting.
Speaker 2: Down and let's.
Speaker 8: Get a contract and let's move on.
Speaker 2: With this world and today's world. I'll cripple you. I
Speaker 2: will cripple you. And you have no idea what that means.
Speaker 4: Wow, And the go like this, he puts his hand
Speaker 4: on his neck, suggesting that they're going to claim they're
Speaker 4: hurt so they don't have to move the stuff away,
Speaker 4: unload the containers, and everything like that.
Speaker 2: That is something that is some from thirty containers an
Speaker 2: hour to eight, that's some serious hardball right there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So one of the challenges of this job is that
Speaker 1: we're dealing with thirty stories at once and trying to
Speaker 1: get everything together for you.
Speaker 2: But we were talking about the fact that Donald J.
Speaker 1: Biden of course, has come out and say those hard
Speaker 1: working doctor workers deserve justice and income equality.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm with them all the way. Donald union.
Speaker 4: Joe Kama today late yesterday or today has said they
Speaker 4: need their fair share. Those big shipping companies are making
Speaker 4: billions of dollars record profits and the dock workers deserve
Speaker 4: their fair share of that.
Speaker 1: Right, And I was somewhat surprised to see Donald Jay
Speaker 1: say American workers should be able to negotiate for better wages,
Speaker 1: especially since the shipping companies are mostly.
Speaker 2: Foreign flag vessels.
Speaker 1: So he was making noises, you know, in favor of
Speaker 1: the striking workers. Now it's worth mentioning that most ocean
Speaker 1: carriers are foreign because union work rules have rendered US
Speaker 1: shipbuilding and shipping so incredibly expensive. That's uncompetitive globally. But
Speaker 1: having said that, the obvious occurred to me. Donald Jay
Speaker 1: is making a charitable noises like that because there is
Speaker 1: an unmistakable movement of blue collar and union workers moving
Speaker 1: to the Republican Party, and he doesn't want to upset
Speaker 1: the teamsters in Pennsylvania with saying even anything mildly critical
Speaker 1: about the dock worker guys, especially not right now. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and he's probably figuring. And this is one of the
Speaker 1: things I wish i'd realized earlier.
Speaker 2: As a parent.
Speaker 1: You know, you got a kid who can't catch a cold,
Speaker 1: never mind a baseball, and they're utterly convinced they're going.
Speaker 2: To be a major league player or or whatever.
Speaker 1: And you might be tempted so their hopes aren't dashed
Speaker 1: cruelly by the world, to maybe try to talk him
Speaker 1: off that, right, you gotta be really, really careful, because
Speaker 1: their dreams are gonna get dashed. Sure enough. It can
Speaker 1: either be you or the world who dashes them. And
Speaker 1: it's a tough balancing, you know, you know, maybe you'd
Speaker 1: be there to put a hand around their shoulder when
Speaker 1: the world tells them, hey, you suck at baseball, all right.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Having said that, Donald J.
Speaker 1: Realizes this is going to get worked out, and it
Speaker 1: could be painful, it could be expensive, it could threw
Speaker 1: up the economy, and sooner or later they're going to
Speaker 1: strike a deal, whether I open my hap or not.
Speaker 1: So maybe I just say, hey, they're working people built
Speaker 1: America and they should be able to negotiate, which is
Speaker 1: true obviously.
Speaker 2: Just stay the hell out of it.
Speaker 4: They play sixty five again, because there's that one part
Speaker 4: I want to get on.
Speaker 2: There, Sisters and brothers of the ISLA.
Speaker 8: I am disgusted to hear the comment South Carolina Governor
Speaker 8: Henry mcmastus made in his State of the State address
Speaker 8: in late January attacking labor union and IOLA and.
Speaker 2: Particularly that's what we wanted and particularly, And he is
Speaker 2: not the poet laureate. He's a dock workers union guy, Joe.
Speaker 4: Who Bentley and has a seventy foot yacht and lives
Speaker 4: in a two million dollar house.
Speaker 2: It's seventy six feet seventy feet. Please armstrong and Getty