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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and get Katie and now he Armstrong and Jetty.

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Speaker 3: Of the nearly two hundred missiles fired by Iran, Israeli

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Speaker 3: defenses shot down almost all of them, not without the

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Speaker 3: help of US destroyers based in the Eastern Mediterranean. The

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Speaker 3: Israeli military has vowed to strike back. We have the

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Speaker 3: capabilities to reach any point to the Middle East, said

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Speaker 3: the head of the Armed Forces. Our enemies who have

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Speaker 3: not understood this yet will soon understand. Israeli military video

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Speaker 3: shows troops advancing through the mountains of southern Lebanon as

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Speaker 3: it announced close quarter fighting with Hezbolah. Thousands more are

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Speaker 3: being sent north as part of what the Israeli military

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Speaker 3: is calling a limited ground operation.

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Speaker 4: So that's interesting and I like a lot of people

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Speaker 4: have been wondering what is the Israeli gonna response going

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Speaker 2: How big is it going to be?

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Speaker 4: I mean, is it going to be full regime change,

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Speaker 4: like try to take out the Ayatola take out There

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Speaker 4: are nuclear facilities, they're oil refineries, all that different sort

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Speaker 4: of stuff. Maybe not as much as I thought. We'll

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Speaker 4: have that for you in just a second. But here's

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Speaker 4: a CBS reporter who got a tour of a town,

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Speaker 4: and they're in Lebanon, where the Hesbla people are pretty popular, apparently.

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Speaker 5: Southern Bayiruk suburb of Dahia, the seat of Hesbola's power.

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Speaker 5: Israeli airstrikes targeted Dahia relentlessly. We were only given access

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Speaker 5: as part of a large media tour organized by the

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Speaker 5: Milton Group following the Israeli assassination of its leader, custom Disrella.

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Speaker 5: This man yells, we will not surrender. We followed Nosreela,

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Speaker 5: this man who said we are all Norella. So if

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Speaker 5: Israel was fighting one person, they are now fighting the

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Speaker 5: entire nation.

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Speaker 2: We are all in ISRAELA.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how many people leave that sentiment there

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Speaker 4: in southern Lebanon, but.

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Speaker 2: There's that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a great deal of resentment of Hesbala as well.

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Speaker 2: It depends who you ask.

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Speaker 4: So Joe Biden was asked yesterday, what do you think

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Speaker 4: of Israel taking out the nuclear facilities there in Iran?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, no response needs to be proportional. Why we wouldn't

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Speaker 4: advocate keeping Iran from getting a bomb. I guess you

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Speaker 4: did want to go back to your old boss's plan.

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Speaker 4: If you just keep giving Iran more money and thinking

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Speaker 4: at some point they'll just decide not to want a

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Speaker 2: I don't I've never understood that theory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they won't take the money and keep developing the nukes.

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Speaker 1: There's no chance of that.

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Speaker 2: But this shocked me.

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Speaker 4: From the New York Times, several senior Biden officials, speaking

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Speaker 4: on a condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive conversations, said

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Speaker 4: yesterday that Israeli officials have told them privately that they

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Speaker 4: do not feel the need to hit back against Iran

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Speaker 4: in an immediate and massive way.

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Speaker 2: I hadn't heard this anywhere yet.

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Speaker 4: Officials in the United States and Europe feared that Israel

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Speaker 4: could hit economic tiggets in Iran that would prompt the

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Speaker 4: dangerous escalatory reaction Tehran has long wouldn't I know. Tehran

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Speaker 4: has long signaled that attacks on its oil and gas

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Speaker 4: so we're announcing we're scared of Iran. That's a good idea.

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Speaker 4: Such a strike would probably prompt retaliatory attacks. From Iran

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Speaker 4: on Western energy assets, potentially disrupting the global economy one

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Speaker 4: month before the presidential election.

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Speaker 1: Well that's there, you go, that last phrase. That's what

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Speaker 1: it is utterly dishonest. First of all, the idea that

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Speaker 1: we don't want a dangerous escalation where Iran like gets

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Speaker 1: really mad or something. It's already on. Okay, the war

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Speaker 1: is on Iran has been defanged. Two most powerful proxies

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Speaker 1: are fighting for their lives, and those are the two

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Speaker 1: attack dogs they always threatened Israel with. They didn't threaten

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Speaker 1: them with, and we'll fire two hundred and twelve ballistic

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Speaker 1: missiles at you. They threatened them with, Yeah, we'll send

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Speaker 1: our attack dogs in the region right at Israel and

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Speaker 1: we're going to fight the hell out of you. Well,

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Speaker 1: what are you going to do now your attack dogs

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Speaker 1: are defanged?

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Speaker 2: Well, right?

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Speaker 4: And then in terms of launching an attack from your

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Speaker 4: own country? Am I supposed to believe that the two

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Speaker 4: hundred ballistic missiles were That's not our best stuff. We

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Speaker 4: got way better stuff. We're just holding back for some reason.

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Speaker 4: What I don't know that I buy that. I am

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Speaker 4: so disgusted by Joe Biden. I disagreed a lot with

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Speaker 4: Barack Obama. I thought he was wrong. I thought he

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Speaker 2: I thought his.

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Speaker 1: Theory of international relations was that of an academic overly

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Speaker 1: was coh to it. It was wrong, it was just incoherent.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry it was wrong, but it was coherent. Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden is just spineless.

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Speaker 2: He is utterly unable to make a risky decision.

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Speaker 1: Ever, He's one of the most gray milk toast, cowardly

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Speaker 1: spineless people I've ever seen in a position of power.

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Speaker 2: It's just I'm just so sick of him.

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Speaker 1: And as we can't escalate, it's got to be proportional.

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Speaker 1: Here's an idea for you, Joe. And this has been

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Speaker 1: true since the dawn of man. You make your adversaries

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Speaker 1: so afraid to mess with you, they don't mess with you,

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Speaker 1: and you have peace and tranquility. And then with that

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Speaker 1: power you have, you exercise it compassionately and with justice.

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Speaker 2: You help the downtrodden.

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Speaker 1: You send aircraft carriers to tsunami sites, You act with

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Speaker 1: decency and kindness, but yes, strength, enormous, overwhelming strength. Israel

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Speaker 1: has the chance to knock it around back by a

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Speaker 1: decade in terms of being a regional and perhaps global threat.

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Speaker 2: You gotta do it.

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Speaker 1: If Tally Bennett, who we've quoted a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: he's the former Israeli Prime minister, said has Boll and

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Speaker 1: Hamas are paralyzed temporarily, and Iran is exposed right now,

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Speaker 1: they're naked, they don't have the ability to protect themselves.

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Speaker 1: Israel has the greatest opportunity in fifty years to change

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Speaker 4: The National Review editorial board has a piece today. Their

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Speaker 4: editors have a piece, actually it came out yesterday basically saying, remember,

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Speaker 4: this is all Obama's fault, and they're just carrying on

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Speaker 4: the same strategy of you know, let's just deal with them,

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Speaker 4: give them more money, loosen up money so that they

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Speaker 4: won't need to get a nuclear weapon, or I don't

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Speaker 4: even under I never understood.

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Speaker 2: The philosophy at all.

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Speaker 4: I hear it brought up on your lefty cable news

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Speaker 4: channels all the time, and Ian Bremmer brings it up.

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Speaker 2: I like, but all the time, just.

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Speaker 4: Say Trump got out of the Iranian nuclear deal that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was working, graz was it? Oh? Uh?

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Speaker 4: Anyway, So they point that out and that at every

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Speaker 4: turn I'll read from it. At every escalation by Iran,

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Speaker 4: the response by the Biden Harris administration has been to

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Speaker 4: show weakness. They always talk about their ironclad support for Israel,

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Speaker 4: but it's failed to recognize that defensive measures against Iran

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Speaker 4: can only go so far when they aren't accompanied by

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Speaker 4: a strong offensive response to re establish deterrence.

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Speaker 2: There's no deterrence.

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Speaker 4: So their final paragraph is this time the response to

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Speaker 4: Iranian aggression must be different. For the second time in

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Speaker 4: five months, Iran has fired hundreds of projectiles at Israel

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Speaker 4: thanks to the gains the regime is believed to have

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Speaker 4: made in uranium enrichment under the Biden Harris administration. There's

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Speaker 4: simply no way Israel can take the chance that the

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Speaker 4: next time Iran launches such an attack, some of the missiles.

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Speaker 2: Could be loaded with nuclear warheads.

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Speaker 4: It's believed that Iran's within a couple of weeks if

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Speaker 4: they decided to go to get a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 2: Why would you not interrupt that?

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't we be in favor of Israel, interrupting that

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Speaker 4: it's hard to imagine the reasons I've just enunciated about

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Speaker 4: the head of our government Defense Israel. Israel's Defense Minister

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Speaker 4: Joev Galan, who has disagreed rather vehemently with net Nyahou

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Speaker 4: on various questions in recent days, said Iran has not

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Speaker 4: learned a simple lesson. Those who attack the State of

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Speaker 4: Israel pay a heavy price. The heavier the price, the

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Speaker 4: rarer the attacks. Well, you know, I don't know nothing,

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Speaker 4: but Iran's in the weakest position it's been and we

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Speaker 4: better time to attack Iran than when they're weak and

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Speaker 4: when the biggest bully in the world.

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Speaker 2: Has got your back? I mean, is right there? Yeah, yep.

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Speaker 4: But that's interesting. So you think the sources, speaking on

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Speaker 2: I think that's crap. I don't know what to think.

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Speaker 4: It's it's shocking to me if it's true that Israeli

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Speaker 1: I just find that impossible to believe. It could be

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Speaker 4: That, yeah, well, they didn't alert the Biden administration to

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Speaker 4: the snuffing of Azraala, And you do that on purpose,

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Speaker 4: so that you know, Biden isn't put in a position

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Speaker 4: Works for both sides.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh, we'll see how that goes. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: they always go on about forever wars.

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Speaker 2: If that's an argument, it's just a slogan.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you'd call it as a philosophy,

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Speaker 4: don't know how much of the right feels that way now,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree completely, And and it's one, you know,

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Speaker 1: relevant and appropriate discussion. To what extent and in what

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Speaker 1: way should the United States project its power around the globe?

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Speaker 1: Where and when that's that's a great discussion, and you

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Speaker 2: And now that you can.

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Speaker 1: Reach out and touch someone from anywhere on the globe,

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Speaker 1: the idea that we ought to retreat to our own

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Speaker 2: I just don't think it's true. I think it's naive

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Speaker 2: a lot of it. But there are subtleties involved.

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Speaker 1: And if you're of that, you know, ideology or thought

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Speaker 1: that we're describing, you know, knock us out an email

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Speaker 1: mail bag at Armstrong and Getty dot com if you've

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Speaker 4: I'm sure Trump's aware of how much of his party

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they show him using the lasses to identify

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Speaker 4: It's led every newscast the fact that Smith is still

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Speaker 6: The timing is concerning. Jack Smith knows that this election

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Speaker 4: So we have for a variety of people like go

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Speaker 4: to clips like we got Kamala Harris clips we play

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Speaker 4: if we mentioned Kamala Harris and Joe Biden clips, you

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Speaker 4: know of him fumbling and stumbling when we play him.

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Speaker 4: Are Tim Walls has been the mind your own business.

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Speaker 4: We got that mind your own damn business. So that's

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Speaker 4: been a good go to for Tim Waller.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, mind your own damn business. Or maybe we

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Speaker 2: use either of these two.

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Speaker 9: So I've become friends with school shooters.

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Speaker 4: I've become friends with school shooters. That's a pretty good one.

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Speaker 4: But I'm dark.

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Speaker 2: This one got so much attention out of the debate

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Speaker 2: the other night.

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Speaker 9: And I'm a knucklehead at times, right, So.

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Speaker 2: That has become kind of his explanation for everything.

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Speaker 9: And I'm a knucklehead at times.

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Speaker 4: I'm a knucklehead at times, he said, which uh, one

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Speaker 4: of my favorite pundits said, who among us hasn't forgotten

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Speaker 4: whether or not they fought in a war, their rank,

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Speaker 4: whether or not they used IVF to have children, or

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Speaker 4: whether or not they were in a foreign country during

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Speaker 4: one of the most famous events in modern history.

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Speaker 2: Just a knucklehead at times.

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Speaker 9: And I'm a knucklehead at times.

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Speaker 2: What happens.

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Speaker 1: So they're gonna trot out old man Walls to do

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Speaker 1: some interviews and late night appearances and all sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: He seems to deflect most of the criticism legitimate In

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Speaker 1: my mind, towards the things he said and done with

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Speaker 1: self effacement.

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Speaker 2: I'm a knucklehead of times. My wife tells me my

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Speaker 2: grammar isn't so good.

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Speaker 1: Well, at some point after you play the I'm just

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Speaker 1: so dumb card, you know, people are gonna start saying, well,

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Speaker 1: if you're not dumb, why are you running for high office?

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Speaker 2: I don't want dumby guys in office.

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Speaker 9: I'm so dumbhead at times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, I'm just so freaking bone stupid

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Speaker 4: that I do these things so I should be president.

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Speaker 2: Or first in line to be president. That's a pretty

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Speaker 2: good point. And I had.

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Speaker 4: Another thing as on this whole. Tim Walls going on

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Speaker 4: the shows doing, oh so sixty minutes is it this?

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Speaker 4: To your next Sunday, had a deal to interview. There's

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Speaker 4: gonna be a big sixty minutes episode in October. We're

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Speaker 4: gonna have both candidates and their running mates on Harrison

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Speaker 4: Wallas and Trump and Vance.

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Speaker 2: There is an agreement. Trump has backed out.

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Speaker 4: Now the reporting you know from the left, so is

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Speaker 4: this true or not? Was that Trump didn't want didn't

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Speaker 4: agree to, uh, real time fact checking, which you can

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Speaker 4: picture Scott Pelly doing while he's interviewing Trump. But but

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Speaker 4: I would imagine the reason that Trump's not agreeing to it,

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Speaker 4: or as people told him, not agree to it, is

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Speaker 4: You're gonna watch the sixty minutes episode. Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 4: gonna say all kinds of things that either could really

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Speaker 4: be disagreed with or at least kind of disagreed with,

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Speaker 4: and they'll leave them alone. Whereas Trump every freaking freaking

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Speaker 4: thing out of his mouth, they will fact check with

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Speaker 4: their version of whether it's right or not, and they

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Speaker 4: leave Kamala Harris alone. A bunch of people have pointed

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Speaker 4: out since the debate the other night, Walls his claim

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Speaker 4: about you mentioned this year today, his claim about the

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Speaker 4: job saying easily could have been fact checked on how

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Speaker 4: how many jobs were created or whatever. The claim that

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Speaker 4: the middle class the Trump tax cuts only went to

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Speaker 4: the rich. That has been debunked by Washington Post, New

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Speaker 4: York Times, everybody. That's just not true, mostly middle class people.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you could have easily fact checked that, but

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Speaker 4: they let that one slide. Of course, the numbers on

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Speaker 4: immigration that they claimed wildly.

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Speaker 1: Walls unleashed what was characterized in at least one place

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Speaker 1: as a howler about immigration, saying fewer people have crossed

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Speaker 1: the border during the Harris Biden administration that did under Trump.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny, Old Nora and Margaret.

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Speaker 2: They let that one slide.

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Speaker 4: They didn't fact check that one right where they were

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Speaker 4: willing to fact check what jd. Vance said about Walls

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Speaker 4: signing that bill into law in Minnesota about a late

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Speaker 4: term abortion, and they were wrong on their fact check.

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Speaker 2: They were just flat out wrong. So that's so freaking maddening.

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Speaker 4: Why would Trump agree to go on sixty minutes, same

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Speaker 4: network and say, Okay, yeah, so you're gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 4: fact check me on everything I say, and you're gonna

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Speaker 4: let them say whatever the hell they want, no matter

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Speaker 4: how incredibly wrong it is. Why would you agree to that?

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Speaker 4: Although it looks really bad because most people don't know this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, politics, all's fair in love, in politics. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is utterly unfair, but it's the warfare that is politics.

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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is I'd go ahead and send JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance into that very situation because he'd beat them at

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Speaker 1: their own game.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Vance's maybe Advance is doing it. I haven't heard

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Speaker 4: that specifically. If Trump and Vance aren't doing the sixty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: Jd Vance is plenty capable of handling all of those situations.

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Speaker 4: How about that moment in the debate. We didn't play

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Speaker 4: this yesterday. How about that moment in the debate after Walls.

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Speaker 4: It was during the gun conversation, and Walls mentioned that

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Speaker 4: his seventeen year old witness to shooting, and jd. Vance

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Speaker 4: turned to him and said, Wow, I'd never heard that

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Speaker 4: about your son. God, I'm so sorry that happened. That

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Speaker 4: was like as genuine a compassionate moment I can practically

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Speaker 4: ever remember seeing a debate that was really striking.

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Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, yeah, Virtually everybody I've talked to you,

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Speaker 1: even in real life about the debate says at least

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Speaker 1: they were like gentlemen about the whole thing. I think

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Speaker 1: there's a greater taste for the civility as opposed to

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Speaker 1: the bare knuckled a Trumpian style than it gets credit for.

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Speaker 4: I don't know a lot of your big time have

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Speaker 4: run campaigns. Pundits hated it, thought it was terrible. I'm

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Speaker 4: both yeah, go ahead and play we have the.

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Speaker 9: Clip, Governor, you have two minutes. Well, I think all

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Speaker 9: the parents watching tonight, this is just your biggest nightmare. Look,

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Speaker 9: I got a seventeen year old and he witnessed just

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Speaker 9: shooting at a community center playing volleyball. Those things don't

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Speaker 9: leave you.

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Speaker 2: Senator Tim.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I didn't know that your seventeen year

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Speaker 1: old witness is shooting, and I'm sorry about that, and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Christ have mercy.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 4: It is awful, even though I disagreed with both of

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Speaker 4: them ultimately on that topic.

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Speaker 2: But what was our point here? So what pundits hated it?

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Speaker 2: What the civilized tone? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I've seen bunch of not pundits, people that have

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Speaker 4: run campaigns, like your former campaign manager type people absolutely

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Speaker 4: a mistake for even talking about their own side, like

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Speaker 4: Democrat former campaign people saying miss big mistake by Walls

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Speaker 4: by not nailing down vans and trying to be Minnesota

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Speaker 4: nice when they should have blah blah blah. And people

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Speaker 4: on the right who've run campaigns sing the same thing

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Speaker 4: about Vance. No, here's an opportunity to absolutely smear him

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Speaker 4: as a socialist, and he let him get away with

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Speaker 4: coming off as a nice guy. So I thought that

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Speaker 4: was interesting that your real hardcore political operatives hated the niceties,

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Speaker 4: while the rest of us liked, Yeah, well, this shows

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Speaker 4: you what those people are like. Well, politics is an ugly, grubby,

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Speaker 4: a moral world, and everything is on the line for

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Speaker 4: those people because you either have a job for the

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Speaker 4: next two, four or six years where you're looking for work.

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Speaker 1: Right, their only principle is to win. Just keep that

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Speaker 1: in mind. Speaking politics, something obvious occurred to me. You

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Speaker 1: give me long enough, I'll come up with the obvious

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Speaker 1: about Donald J. Trump and the dock workers and that

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Speaker 1: whole strike situation which is probably going to mess up

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Speaker 1: the economy pretty significantly.

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Speaker 4: We got another good clip from our guy who runs

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Speaker 4: the union man.

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Speaker 2: He is something else. Stay with us.

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Speaker 4: We like the opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal today,

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Speaker 4: Betley drivers of the world unite about the Betley driving

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Speaker 4: guy who runs the union for the long sharman. And

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Speaker 4: as we've been saying, if you don't want people to

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Speaker 4: whisper about mob ties, try not to sound like a mobster.

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Speaker 8: Now I have the President screaming at me, I'm putting

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Speaker 8: a taff holly on.

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Speaker 2: You go ahead, taft.

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Speaker 8: Holly means I have to go back to work for

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Speaker 8: ninety days after cooling you off.

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Speaker 2: Period do you.

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Speaker 8: Think when I go back to ninety days, those men

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Speaker 8: are going to go to work on that pid. It's

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Speaker 8: going to cost the money, the company's money to pay

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Speaker 8: the salaries.

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Speaker 2: Well, the one from thirty moves and now maybe the eight.

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Speaker 8: They're gonna be like this, who's gonna win here In

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Speaker 8: the long run, You're better off sitting.

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Speaker 2: Down and let's.

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Speaker 8: Get a contract and let's move on.

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Speaker 2: With this world and today's world. I'll cripple you. I

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Speaker 2: will cripple you. And you have no idea what that means.

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Speaker 4: Wow, And the go like this, he puts his hand

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Speaker 4: on his neck, suggesting that they're going to claim they're

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Speaker 4: hurt so they don't have to move the stuff away,

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Speaker 4: unload the containers, and everything like that.

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Speaker 2: That is something that is some from thirty containers an

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Speaker 2: hour to eight, that's some serious hardball right there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So one of the challenges of this job is that

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Speaker 1: we're dealing with thirty stories at once and trying to

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Speaker 1: get everything together for you.

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Speaker 2: But we were talking about the fact that Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Biden of course, has come out and say those hard

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Speaker 1: working doctor workers deserve justice and income equality.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm with them all the way. Donald union.

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Speaker 4: Joe Kama today late yesterday or today has said they

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Speaker 4: need their fair share. Those big shipping companies are making

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Speaker 4: billions of dollars record profits and the dock workers deserve

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Speaker 4: their fair share of that.

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Speaker 1: Right, And I was somewhat surprised to see Donald Jay

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Speaker 1: say American workers should be able to negotiate for better wages,

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Speaker 1: especially since the shipping companies are mostly.

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Speaker 2: Foreign flag vessels.

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Speaker 1: So he was making noises, you know, in favor of

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Speaker 1: the striking workers. Now it's worth mentioning that most ocean

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Speaker 1: carriers are foreign because union work rules have rendered US

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Speaker 1: shipbuilding and shipping so incredibly expensive. That's uncompetitive globally. But

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Speaker 1: having said that, the obvious occurred to me. Donald Jay

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Speaker 1: is making a charitable noises like that because there is

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Speaker 1: an unmistakable movement of blue collar and union workers moving

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Speaker 1: to the Republican Party, and he doesn't want to upset

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Speaker 1: the teamsters in Pennsylvania with saying even anything mildly critical

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Speaker 1: about the dock worker guys, especially not right now. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and he's probably figuring. And this is one of the

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Speaker 1: things I wish i'd realized earlier.

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Speaker 2: As a parent.

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Speaker 1: You know, you got a kid who can't catch a cold,

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Speaker 1: never mind a baseball, and they're utterly convinced they're going.

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Speaker 2: To be a major league player or or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And you might be tempted so their hopes aren't dashed

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Speaker 1: cruelly by the world, to maybe try to talk him

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Speaker 1: off that, right, you gotta be really, really careful, because

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Speaker 1: their dreams are gonna get dashed. Sure enough. It can

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Speaker 1: either be you or the world who dashes them. And

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Speaker 1: it's a tough balancing, you know, you know, maybe you'd

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Speaker 1: be there to put a hand around their shoulder when

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Speaker 1: the world tells them, hey, you suck at baseball, all right.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Having said that, Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Realizes this is going to get worked out, and it

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Speaker 1: could be painful, it could be expensive, it could threw

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Speaker 1: up the economy, and sooner or later they're going to

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Speaker 1: strike a deal, whether I open my hap or not.

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Speaker 1: So maybe I just say, hey, they're working people built

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Speaker 1: America and they should be able to negotiate, which is

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Speaker 1: true obviously.

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Speaker 2: Just stay the hell out of it.

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Speaker 4: They play sixty five again, because there's that one part

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Speaker 4: I want to get on.

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Speaker 2: There, Sisters and brothers of the ISLA.

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Speaker 8: I am disgusted to hear the comment South Carolina Governor

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Speaker 8: Henry mcmastus made in his State of the State address

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Speaker 8: in late January attacking labor union and IOLA and.

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Speaker 2: Particularly that's what we wanted and particularly, And he is

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Speaker 2: not the poet laureate. He's a dock workers union guy, Joe.

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Speaker 4: Who Bentley and has a seventy foot yacht and lives

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Speaker 4: in a two million dollar house.

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