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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Friscola. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. What's up? Welcome in to Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. Rob Phillips hosting for Bill

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Speaker 1: Jones today, he's still in the Christmas spirit. Brian brought

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Speaker 1: us across the table from me. Mickey Spagnola will be

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Speaker 1: joining us momentarily. I think Kent Garrison producing next door.

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Speaker 1: Working by yourself today? Am I pretty much? Wow? You

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Speaker 1: don't sound good. I'm not good. I don't feel good.

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Speaker 1: Did you have a merry Christmas? Oh it was way

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Speaker 1: too merry? Am I talking too loud right now? Oh?

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Speaker 1: It's good. I feel I feel, I feel okay. It's

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Speaker 1: just don't ever go out with young people. That's all

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say. You're you're a young guy. But

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Speaker 1: Don't go out with them anymore. Just a bad idea.

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Speaker 1: It's not good. It's not good. I'm sorry. I sound

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Speaker 1: like garbage today. It's my fault. You sound like you're

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Speaker 1: working on the flu. I've got a little bit of

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Speaker 1: everything going on right now. It's not good. Not good.

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Speaker 1: You want to tell us what you did last night? Well,

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Speaker 1: to celebrate Christmas, celebrate a tradition with my best friend

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Speaker 1: and his family that we play this game like name

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Speaker 1: that tune, you know with we pair up and everybody

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Speaker 1: has their iPads or their phones, and you know, you play,

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Speaker 1: and you partner up and you just play songs and

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Speaker 1: you know. It's something we've done now for four years

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Speaker 1: and and it involves celebration along with it, as you know,

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Speaker 1: but you keep score. And so my godson Jack and

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Speaker 1: I we uh won for the third straight year, and

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Speaker 1: we celebrated our victory out with Jordan Speace brother and all.

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Speaker 1: We went out and had a good old time. Steven Speeth,

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Speaker 1: we had a great time last night. And you probably

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Speaker 1: didn't pay for a single drink either, No I did.

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Speaker 1: That's what. That's what having a decent job these bums.

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Speaker 1: Steven's a professional basketball player kind of in between, and

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Speaker 1: Jack's doing it working with with Darren Woodson and those

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Speaker 1: these are young kids, and I made a mistake. I

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Speaker 1: really didn't. I shouldn't have gone out with those guys.

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Speaker 1: I should have done it. There's things in life you

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Speaker 1: just shouldn't do. And I and I I crossed that

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Speaker 1: line last night. I think you should have. And I'm

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Speaker 1: I know you're struggling this hour, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: our busiest days. It is. It's like, you shoot me

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Speaker 1: a mailbag. I'm like, I'm laying it bead. I'm like, all,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I got the mailbag. I'm like, oh, Randy

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Speaker 1: Gregory question, here we go. Okay, one eye open. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think Randy's got a future. Typing on my phone.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea. Just pull back the curtain. I

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Speaker 1: send Brian two mail back questions around seventh. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: the mail back questions. We love. We love the mail

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Speaker 1: back questions. We really do. That was a little early

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Speaker 1: for you. No, it's just because I got in just

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Speaker 1: a little bit before they arrived. Uh, that's okay. Nobody

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Speaker 1: don't we. Yes, we giants this week. We can talk

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Speaker 1: giants today, we talk we can talk playoffs. What's beyond

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Speaker 1: the giants? Because is something beyond the giants? Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: that by the way, I hope folks got to see

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Speaker 1: our show last Friday. I thought you did a good

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Speaker 1: job with some of those questions. If you, if you

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Speaker 1: check that one out. It's Monday. It was on Monday.

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Speaker 1: When I say Friday, I think today's Monday. That's probably why. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's okay, today's win because we have like a half off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the I love the okay, how do you play it?

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Speaker 1: And how you know? In this coach, I think this

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Speaker 1: a pattern of I don't care what you Brian brought

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Speaker 1: us think I'm gonna I'm gonna play these guys. I'm

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Speaker 1: giant killer last year. At this game. It's supposed to snow,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Roberts, So when you do your pregame hit,

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Speaker 1: make sure you have your overcoat and your stetson, felt

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Speaker 1: But I just like I said, I so do you buy?

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Speaker 1: for him to have that mentality. The scouts mentality is Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you hurt these guys, now, I can't can't help you.

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Speaker 1: play that way because, you know me, I'm the oh, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's they're all must win. They're all must win. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the more important area of this this season, the playoffs. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, playoffs. How are you guys? Whoa We're making it, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: we normally don't get. I did good. Yeah, Brian came

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Speaker 1: I did. I just embarrass myself, Mickey, What do you do? Mickey?

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Speaker 1: only time I've really seen you. Just you know, it

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Speaker 1: was close last night, Rob, Christmas night. What's open? I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what, Mickey, you would be surprised the establishments

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Speaker 1: that are opening. Yes, now, not enough food stops are open.

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's only seen you a couple

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Speaker 1: of times. Your wedding was incredible. Again here we are

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Speaker 1: I had that plate? Yeah, yeah, that it's called a charger,

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Speaker 1: the round that you know, Mickey, the thing on the

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Speaker 1: that round. Yeah, yeah, it's called charger. Rob was impressed.

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Speaker 1: I held it up like I won Wimbledon. I won Wimbledon,

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Speaker 1: because that's if you're a tennis guy. Was that before

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Speaker 1: getting through it, he's fine, Mickey, Yes, rust or rest yeah, uh,

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Speaker 1: kind of keeping the momentum going for a while. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then making sure that I don't incur any injury

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But I think for the majority of it,

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Speaker 1: right from the Seahawks right now? It's what you do? Well? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but do you approach this week of practice everybody's attention?

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Speaker 1: I tell him on Sunday, Come on Sunday. Yeah? How

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Speaker 1: What a play? Let me ask you this, what if

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Speaker 1: you did it like the night when you're at the

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Speaker 1: hotel like sor or that. Okay, our inactives this week

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott. And that's when I mean that's basically when

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Speaker 1: to you know. Tyrn Smith also, hey, you're you're playing

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Speaker 1: this week? Walked into locker room and they told him.

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Speaker 1: I think Mickey's onto something too, because you want those

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Speaker 1: preparing for the Giants as I do preparing myself. Why

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily preparation for the Giants, but self evaluation and

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Speaker 1: here's what we got to improve on, and you can

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Speaker 1: do sort of like they would do during the bye week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's about you. Yeah, it's not about getting

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Speaker 1: ready for an opponent. And I just think you have

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Speaker 1: you a question? Though? Have they've been playing playoffs? I'm

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Speaker 1: just thinking to this they play they've been playing playoff

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Speaker 1: we Is it? I don't know, Mickey, I mean, is it?

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Speaker 1: who wasn't, and they ended up playing a quarter, right,

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Speaker 1: Dak played a little bit. Zeke did not play that

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Speaker 1: If I didn't do what I did, I would have

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Speaker 1: gone into officiating. I'll guarantee you. Did you see Mickey

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Speaker 1: Everybody likes him. Gosh that temper. Okay, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: listen to Jerry Jones this morning? I did any highlights?

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Speaker 1: Any nuggets, Um, I think, I mean, I think we

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Speaker 1: And I believe a lot of it has to do

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Speaker 1: it sounded like, you know, obviously Zack Martin does it

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Speaker 1: the no he's I mean, think about this. Doesn't ten

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Speaker 1: and six sound much better than nine and seven? I

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Speaker 1: know at this point it doesn't matter. Boy, we got

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Speaker 1: some nice hats, that's all. But I think I think

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Speaker 1: ten and six sounds especially since I picked him to

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Speaker 1: go ten and six. The Giants win the Super Bowl

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00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: at nine and seven, they sure did, But he really

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Speaker 1: cares to beat the Cowboys? Right? Yeah? They won? They won.

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Speaker 1: I think they won three straight road games, right all right?

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Speaker 1: They won at Tampa, won at Dallas, and then won

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Speaker 1: at Green Bay and then won the Super Bowl in

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Speaker 1: the road. So yeah, four straight road Yeah, in the season.

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Speaker 1: Um what else? Oh he also and I thought this

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Speaker 1: was very interesting talking about the season, Uh, that he

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Speaker 1: really values them being able to dig them selves out

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Speaker 1: of a hole. That it was three and five and

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Speaker 1: things got better, and he thought you could be more

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Speaker 1: excited about that than basically anything else. They had the

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Speaker 1: wherewithal and improved to the point and his point was, hey,

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Speaker 1: we lost some games to some really good teams, and

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Speaker 1: they were and they were close calls. You know, he

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Speaker 1: met the three five. You know, you lose to Houston

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Speaker 1: at that time, Washington was hot. Yeah, two games by

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Speaker 1: uh three points. So uh. He talked extensively about how

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Speaker 1: how he thought that was very valuable for the growth

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Speaker 1: of this team. More impressed, more impressive how they won

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen the division or how they did it

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Speaker 1: this year. I would say twenty sixteen only because number one,

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Speaker 1: how good the record was, and number two, your quarterback

543
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Speaker 1: was a fourth round draft pick who started training camp

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Speaker 1: as your number three guy. I don't think anybody saw

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Speaker 1: that coming, not to the level that they played. And

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Speaker 1: Zeke was a rookie and it was just kind of

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Speaker 1: a magical season, right, But I don't want to take

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Speaker 1: anything away from what Mickey just said. The way they've

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Speaker 1: climbed out of this, that's a lot of people wrote

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Speaker 1: them off. Most people did. I mean, if you think

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Speaker 1: about it, even though the first game was sixteen to eight, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we thought they were in over their heads against Carolina, yes, uh.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously Seattle it really wasn't as close as

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Speaker 1: what was at twenty four thirteen. Yeah, it was like

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Speaker 1: that was a tough one, you know, and then you

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Speaker 1: go to you go to Washington and they had to

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Speaker 1: scrap and beat Detroit at home, and then and then

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Speaker 1: Washington and then you know, you get beat by Tennessee

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Speaker 1: and you're ready to throw in the towel. Yeah. See,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It was to me, as they

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Speaker 1: were winning games in two thy sixteen, it was a

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Speaker 1: pres I said of how they they did a great job.

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Speaker 1: The offense was just humming along your rookie rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 1: rookie running back, and it's just such a magical type

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Speaker 1: of a run. I think I'm more impressed by what

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Speaker 1: they just did. I think I'm more impressed by them

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Speaker 1: going and winning the game in Atlanta, and Okay, Lanta

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Speaker 1: turned out to be you know, Jacksonville. Mickey. Mickey was

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Speaker 1: right about Jacksonville. I mean, I'm just saying there were

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Speaker 1: teams at the time that you thought, damn Atlanta. They

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Speaker 1: scored thirty one points at home, man, how do you

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Speaker 1: stop them? Remember that whole week I was just telling me, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta do this, you gotta and he went out

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Speaker 1: there and shut them down. Yeah, and then you and

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Speaker 1: then he beat a New Orleans team. It was extremely high.

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Speaker 1: I just feel now that season sixteen, he went the

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Speaker 1: rookie the quarterback won a game at Pittsburgh, and he

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00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: won a game at Green Bay. And not many rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks get to live to tell a story. One day.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be retired old Mississippi fishing with his grandkids.

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Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, your granddad won a game at Hinz

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Speaker 1: Field against Ben Roethlisberger, who they just stuck in the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, you know, winning driving. Yeah, exactly. You know,

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Speaker 1: I took Aaron Rodgers, went toe to toe with Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers Hall of Fame guy. Yeah, your dad or your granddad,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm saying that those are

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but the whole they dug out of when

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Speaker 1: it when it looked, I mean, it looks so bleak. Hey,

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00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: three and five just looked like going to philadelphia're thinking there,

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Speaker 1: this is over. I mean, all right, brought us fire

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00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: up the coaching talk again, you idiot. You know, I

592
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: think you're swaying me. You're swaying me. No, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I mean I'm looking at the schedule

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Speaker 1: right now, and it's that it's for Yeah, they went

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Speaker 1: on the road at Philly, but it's that three games

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Speaker 1: and eleven days, twelve days. It changed their whole season.

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Speaker 1: You know, you beat Washington on Thanksgiving and then it's

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Speaker 1: a you go, you don't get this, that ten day

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Speaker 1: break out Thanksgiving, seven days later you're playing the unstoppable

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Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints and what they were able to do,

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Speaker 1: and then coming back after the break and beating Philly

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Speaker 1: and overtime at home, showing a lot of guts there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's I don't think anybody thought not only

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Speaker 1: could they come back and win the division, but win

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Speaker 1: it with a game to spare three and five? Right,

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Speaker 1: It really is incredible what they've been able to do.

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Speaker 1: You know. Jerry kind of compared it too when he

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Speaker 1: first got here and they blew the whole thing up

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Speaker 1: and they were, you know, they were awful, and he

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Speaker 1: pointed out, he goes and everybody was saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: with these guys don't know what they're doing. Dah, And

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Speaker 1: he goes in we train. We chained some tradition, meaning

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Speaker 1: people that had worked here for twenty nine years, well

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Speaker 1: they had a lot of them. Yeah, and then and

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Speaker 1: then and basically dug themselves out of the hole they

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Speaker 1: kind of created trying to get better. And then in

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Speaker 1: ninety one they made it to the playoffs, and so

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Speaker 1: it was like digging yourself out of a huge hole.

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Speaker 1: And it's very gratifying than just inheriting something and going forward,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, think about his life. He dug

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Speaker 1: himself a pretty good hole, yeah, you know, and he

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Speaker 1: kind of dug himself out of it. So I thought

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Speaker 1: that had a lot of meaning to this run to

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Speaker 1: get into the playoffs. But there are some parallels between

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Speaker 1: this one and twenty sixteen. And I'm talking about dealing

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Speaker 1: with injuries because twenty sixteen was so impressive to me,

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Speaker 1: obviously because of twenty fifteen when Romo went down, they

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Speaker 1: couldn't do anything. Didn't do anything this year defensively, Sean

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Speaker 1: Lee's been out for a large portion of this season.

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Speaker 1: Ealthy scratch, didn't play last week, only played seven snaps

631
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Speaker 1: the week before. And what this defense is doing, what

632
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: these young linebackers are doing, Yeah, really impressive. It's just

633
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: night and day from the season before both those years.

634
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: Every week and that we do a postgame show. I

635
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: look at the tackles and it's either Vanderish or Jalen Smith.

636
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: Every weekend it's vander Smith. And sometimes they'll flip, you know,

637
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: and then one day you'll get vandersch will make all

638
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: the tackles and and Jalen Smith will knock down all

639
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: the passes. You know. And I never would have believed

640
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Speaker 1: that I would have seen Sean Lee be a healthy

641
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: scratch for this football team. I would have never that

642
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Speaker 1: if you just said, Okay, go to go to Vegas, Rob,

643
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Speaker 1: you know, you and I we like the go in

644
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Speaker 1: the sports books. Maybe when we're allowed to back in

645
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Speaker 1: the day, back in the day, and if you said, okay,

646
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: put me put a ticket down on Shawn Lee will

647
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: be a healthy scratch this year for the Dallas Cowboys.

648
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: The odds on that after what you know about Sean

649
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: Lee and how important he was to the team, and

650
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: we're and you know, we're I mean, I know myself

651
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: sitting here talking about on these shows and all the

652
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Speaker 1: things we do, the happy Hour shows and stuff. Oh no,

653
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: don't worry about Sean Lee. You gotta put him in there,

654
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: getting back in there, getting back and they're getting back

655
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: in there. And then what they don't need him And

656
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Speaker 1: it's I don't mean don't need him in a bad way.

657
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: I mean, they just don't need him. They don't, They

658
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Speaker 1: don't they they they have, they have survived the having

659
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Speaker 1: Sean Lee. They've served vibe the you know yeah, And

660
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say they've been able to withstand not

661
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: having him on the field in two linebackers have made

662
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: him just yeah, guy that's standing next to you, and

663
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: I now Jason kind of qualified a little bit Mick

664
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Speaker 1: the other day Christmas Eve. He talked about how Anthony

665
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: Brown's injury kind of led to that situation where he

666
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: writing active because they needed somebody to be able to

667
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: play special teams. And they're still trying to manage Sean's

668
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: reps right back, and so yeah, you weren't going to

669
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Speaker 1: play h much anymore. It was a thirteen to fifteen

670
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Speaker 1: rep thing, and he doesn't play special teams. But I

671
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: never always, I never thought i'd see a game though

672
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: where Sean Lee, even playing thirteen or fifteen snaps, wasn't

673
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: going to play when you gotta win get into division title.

674
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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that that to me was that That

675
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Speaker 1: to me was really that just shows you there's you

676
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Speaker 1: know that, that's what Jerry Jones needs to be proud

677
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: about the fact that he you know, he had blowhearts

678
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: like me telling him, I don't draft Jalen Smith, I can't.

679
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: You know, gosh, he's got a brace, he's got his

680
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Speaker 1: nerve problems, you know. I mean there's a lot of

681
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Speaker 1: risks there. Oh, I mean, doctor doctor Cooper. Give him

682
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: a you know, tip of the cap to him as well.

683
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: He should get a Nobel Peace Prize. Yeah, no for

684
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Speaker 1: what he did, doctor Cooper. Yes, Oh gosh, it's incredible.

685
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Speaker 1: I love Staff. Oh no, absolutely. Then he's wearing the

686
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Speaker 1: LBJ hat. Well, no, he's wearing the hat the back

687
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Speaker 1: in the day. Cheez. I wish I knew with the

688
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: doctor's name. But back when I used to come to

689
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Speaker 1: the games in the seventies, the team doctor for the

690
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Speaker 1: Cowboys wore the exact same was it was doctor uh,

691
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Speaker 1: doctor Knight Night, Doctor Knight, doctor Knight. I don't want

692
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: to get the man's no. I think that he was

693
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Speaker 1: Tom Landry's guy and he wore the hat. But I

694
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Speaker 1: think doctor Cooper said it's one of those he honored LBJA. Yeah,

695
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Speaker 1: he wears in honor of him, you know, and that's

696
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Speaker 1: just that's that shows you the respect he has. But yeah,

697
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry Jones has made some incredible moves, you know,

698
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: and when we want to be critical and we want

699
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Speaker 1: to point the finger of things he's made, he did

700
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: everything he could to try and make this team go him.

701
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Will McClay, Steven give Jason Garrett quick. Jason Garrett has

702
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Speaker 1: a voice in that room too. You know, this season

703
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Speaker 1: and it's not it didn't unfold identically, but it ended

704
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: sort of the same. Just reminded me of nineteen ninety

705
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: one and before right before the season started, by the way,

706
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: they traded for Steve Berlin. Yeah, it was like, okay,

707
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: backup Correadors from the Raiders. He was crossways with Al

708
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,200
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709
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Speaker 1: I don't remember what they might have given up, a

710
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: fourth round draft choice something like that. Anyway, they started

711
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712
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: and then they ended up six and five, and they

713
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714
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715
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716
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717
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,200
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718
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719
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Speaker 1: top top the early part of the third quarter and

720
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: Burline comes in. They win that game, and then they

721
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: went on won the last four. So they ended up

722
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Speaker 1: with a five game winning streak to finish eleven and

723
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Speaker 1: five and went on the road to Chicago, where they

724
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Speaker 1: had no business winning, and they beat the Bears seventeen

725
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: thirteen with Burline at quarterback. And so they kind of

726
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: dug themselves out of a hole that they created and

727
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Speaker 1: on the strength of a trade that they made early

728
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: in the year to bring Burline in, who played awfully

729
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: well down that five game winning streak. All you can ask,

730
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Speaker 1: if you're a fan of this team, all you can

731
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Speaker 1: ask is your front office give you hope, get you know.

732
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean, and a lot of people will very critical

733
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,920
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734
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,040
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735
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys are gonna pick in the twenties now,

736
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: I trust you. And we start the draft show coming

737
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: up here and you know, another month where there's not

738
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,560
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739
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: That's better than Amari Cooper. I'm just telling you right now.

740
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Speaker 1: And it's for the future. It's for the future. It

741
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,000
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742
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743
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744
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,000
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745
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746
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747
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: This season, And another comparison to ninety one, that was

748
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: a pretty young football team, right, very young. I mean

749
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,840
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750
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751
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752
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753
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754
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,600
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755
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,919
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839
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: little bit too long. But that was good, you know

840
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: to Parklin. You know what made me think of that?

841
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: What I was looking at the guys that were on

842
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: the practice squad. Yeah, and there was like three or

843
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: four of them. I didn't even know they were there.

844
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it was the one guy that Jason

845
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: refused to say his last name. Oh it's the uh too. Yeah,

846
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah. Yeah, and you got it out

847
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: well enough. We won't ask you to say it again.

848
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: Defensive tackle. Yeah, he gives him a good look from

849
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: what I've told. You know, he's a really harm duel

850
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: skyer reporting this young man really quick, like a like

851
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: a you know, one of those guys that kind of

852
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 1: a high motor high effort. You always the tag guys

853
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: like that. But this guy's got a really good first step.

854
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: So what he does. They put him out there and

855
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: he just he goes flying to the corner and like

856
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: guys like Lyle Collins, I mean, they're they're having to

857
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: defend their corner and you know, you know, I've heard

858
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: if you watch like people practice against Tyren Smith, Tyron

859
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: Smith wants him to go like full, full tilt against him.

860
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: He doesn't. He's not like a brother in law guy

861
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: where he's like, Okay, I'm just gonna hey, take it

862
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: easy on me kind of guy. I mean, they go

863
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: full rep and he's kind of you know, it's it's

864
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: impressive guy, all pro tackle and he's the two is

865
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: like trying to beat him on a speed rush and

866
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: he's you know, walling him off and all that. I mean,

867
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: can you pick the guy out of a lineup? I

868
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: don't can't. I don't think I can. He's number sixty five,

869
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: I know that. How about Ony Amoli? Yeah, who are you?

870
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: He's the local guy too, is he? Yeah, he's from

871
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: the area. They just signed him recently. Yeah, he's a sinner, right, Yeah,

872
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: he's number sixty five. Sixty seven sixty seven. He's a center,

873
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: play center, and he's like the swing center guards. What

874
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: about Cody Wickman? Cody Whickman is another offensive lineman guard

875
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: Francene State. Yeah. He I think he's been here the

876
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: whole time. The Mariposa, California, all right, it's not like

877
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: a pretty place, Mariposa. I mean the first guys I

878
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: kind of recognized, but I got down to those last

879
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: three or four and it was like, who's hey, practice

880
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: squads Olumba, you know, yeah, dinner all year? Who is okay? Gosh,

881
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: oh help me? Mickey and Rob the kid that was

882
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: traded before we went on the air Houston preseason game

883
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: and he went to Kansas City. They traded him for

884
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: the guard he started at corner Standrick West Is that right? Yeah? Exactly? Wow?

885
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? I can't It feels like a

886
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: year ago. I can't argue, but he if it's wrong, Ward,

887
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: it was Ward? Ward? Was this not west Ward? I

888
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: can't say the first name the right way, but it's

889
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: Ward is his last name. It can't. In Kansas City

890
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: they were trying to move guy. I mean the Cowboys

891
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: were trying to move that Cowboys wanted to keep the guy,

892
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: and then they ended up in training for Anger. Yeah. Anger, Yeah, yeah,

893
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: the guard who got hurt like the second practice he

894
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: was here. Doesn't seemed like forever ago, yes, but but

895
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: but he started. He started last week for Kansas City

896
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: in the in the game. Yeah, everybody liked him a lot.

897
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: He was a he was a big time players ward

898
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: dB and he had he had a good, good camp.

899
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I'm saying. Him in a lumba and

900
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, they really liked those guys, and and

901
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: they ended up the Chiefs got him, and he's been

902
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: with them the whole year, and he actually had to start.

903
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: They remember Anger's first day, first day. First name, Oh

904
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: Parker Parker. Yeah, I was gonna say Pete Parker Parker.

905
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: So they it's a long season, isn't it. Oh? They

906
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: So they took CJ. They activated CJ. Goodwin, Yes, yes,

907
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: been on reserve, injured reserve flyer. Get another, Yeah, they

908
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: could use one to get down there and cover punts.

909
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: How about kicks? How about kickoffs? If people are bringing

910
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: the ball out of there? My gosh, but they've exposed

911
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: Lance Lenore. Yeah, we'll know today, we'll know about that

912
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: coming up three o'clock today. How do you feel about

913
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown this week or in the next couple of

914
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: weeks with his back. I think maybe in two weeks

915
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: he's good. They they seem encouraged when at the end

916
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: of the week they just thought it was best to

917
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: let him rest up and try to get that thing

918
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: under control. But they were feeling better about it, so

919
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 1: but not good enough to play him all right, Bryan

920
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: brought us you spent time on Christmas Day breaking down

921
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. I did look at the Giants

922
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: little because I hadn't seen him since week two, and

923
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: they're they're a little bit different team now than they

924
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: once were. Uh. They've kind of made some changes. You know,

925
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: the right tackle is now Chad Wheeler. They they've moved

926
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: on uh since and that's really This offensive line still

927
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: is the problem. You know. Eli Manning is still the

928
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: trigger man. Se Quon Barkleys everything we thought he was

929
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: going to be. They throw him the ball, They when

930
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: they hand it to him, he makes people miss. They've

931
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: been playing without Odell Beckham the last couple of weeks.

932
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if Odell Beckham will be back this week.

933
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: They might just uh, you know, but again they've had

934
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: some problems with you know, Nate Solder. They gave Nate

935
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: Solder a bunch of money for you know, the from

936
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots to play left tackle and he's had his struggles.

937
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez looks better. They drafted him from UTEP. He's

938
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: playing the left guard. Uh, with Spencer Spencer Pulleys now

939
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: the center. They've when the last time to CA always

940
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: played John Greco was the center. So they've they've made

941
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: some switches in the offensive line. I thought for a

942
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: while there they were going to be good enough to

943
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: be eight and eight. You know, they were kind of

944
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: making a little bit of a run there, and then

945
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,959
Speaker 1: they last couple of weeks they've kind of spit the bit. So,

946
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see. We'll see how they play it

947
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: with Manning. They on defense though a lot of the

948
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: same guys still. It's not you know, Snacks Harrison is

949
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: no longer there keeping on this BJ Hill from North

950
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: Carolina State. He's listed as a defensive end, but he

951
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: plays as a defensive tackle. He's one of my under

952
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: the radar guys I wrote about today. I like him.

953
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: I think he's a better he's playing really kind of

954
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: out of position. They play a three or four front,

955
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: and so he plays like a defensive end, but he's

956
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: really more of a defensive tackle, and so he's he's

957
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: a rookie that's getting a start for him. Olivier Vernon

958
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: is still there. Part BW Web or old Buddy b W.

959
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: Webb is playing corner for them right now. Landing Collins

960
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 1: is still there and Norris Jenkins. So yeah, they've changed

961
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: a little bit since the last time that the Cowboys

962
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: met him, mainly in the on the offensive side of

963
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: the ball. But it's a you know, I'll tell you

964
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: what though, I'm glad. I'm glad though it didn't come

965
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: down to having to go win a game there, you

966
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm glad it didn't because you

967
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: never know, I mean you just the giants. You know,

968
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: at times they've looked really good and they still I'll

969
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 1: tell you again, here's another I forgot about Evan Ingram,

970
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: the tight end, and here's another matchup of another tight

971
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: end that they're gonna have to deal with. You know,

972
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram had seven catches the last time these two

973
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: teams met and went and watched him, and primarily there

974
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: was some zone coverage with Mickey Hates and he's right

975
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: about that. And then there was Jeff Heath kind of

976
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: taking him with a couple of routes and stuff. So

977
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: if no Beckham, then he's gonna be your primary guy.

978
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: Him and Barkley are gonna be the primary guys that

979
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with. And I'm saying this

980
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: in a way of young guys playing. Okay, let's see, Okay,

981
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: it came on Frasier. Let's see a cover ingram. You know.

982
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: That's kind of how I'm looking at this game. How

983
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: how are the how's? How's a Randy Gregory gonna rush

984
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: against Snate Solar? You know? I want to see those

985
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: kind of things, you know, and see if these young

986
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 1: kids can can make some plays. I'm trying to think

987
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: of the last time. I think it was twenty eleven,

988
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: they went to the Meadowlands having to win the game

989
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: to get in and they lost, and I think the

990
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: Giants went on to win the Super Bowl that year.

991
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: It's a very different. It's a situation you don't want

992
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: to be in, no because it's a division rival, and

993
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: you flip a coin and anything can happen and the

994
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: tenor yeah, feeling around this game is much different than

995
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: it could have been this week. Yeah, you you you

996
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: just don't want to have to go and especially if

997
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: the conditions are calling for thirty four degrees or twenty

998
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: thirty one degrees in snow, you know you don't. You

999
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: don't want to have to deal with that, you know,

1000
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: and you don't want to have to deal with with

1001
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley and if he gets one hundred and fifty yards,

1002
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: so what you know, Okay, you know we'll see you

1003
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: in next year. You know, we'll worry about you next year.

1004
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's uh, it does. Division games are tough,

1005
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: and you know, the Giants. I'm sure the Giants are

1006
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: gonna try, and you know the Pat Shermer, the coach there,

1007
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: and you know, they don't want to lose. They want

1008
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: to finish on a strong I mean, they've they've had

1009
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: two bad games in a row here where they were

1010
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: actually playing pretty well and then and then they they lose.

1011
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 1: So I'm sure they want to finish on a high note.

1012
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: And you know Jason Garrett, I'm sure he wants to

1013
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: finish on a high note. But we've talked about this

1014
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: at length. At what cost? You know what costs? Jason

1015
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: Garrett will play all the games, will play him. You know,

1016
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: he'll tell you there's only sixteen of these, you know,

1017
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: And and he's not wrong, not wrong what you're looking at, Mick.

1018
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: I was trying to see how many catches Ingram had,

1019
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: but he's not listed in here. I don't see it.

1020
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: He's had, he's been, He's missed time, Mickey, so he's

1021
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: not gonna be. He's missed like three or four games.

1022
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: There was stretch where he missed like three games and

1023
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: then he's just now come back. But I know he

1024
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: gets the Cowboys. I watched him play specifically because I

1025
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: want to see how they played him. And that's where

1026
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: he was seven targets, seven catches, his high number. His

1027
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: high number was tennis. See, he had ten, ten targets

1028
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: and eight catches in that game. And that was just

1029
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: recently here. So so if I'm reading at this ride,

1030
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't even have thirty seven catches. Yeah, he's but

1031
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: he's missed probably five games this year with because of injuries.

1032
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: But you know whose second m whose second guy named Ertz? Yeah,

1033
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: and he broke Jason Witten's single season tight end record. Yeah,

1034
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: did he? Yeah, this past week? How many does he have?

1035
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: One hundred and what I think I saw one hundred

1036
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: and thirteen? What did Witten have? He has one hundred

1037
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: and thirteen. He's second in the league to Thomas New

1038
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: Orleans with one hundred and twenty. Witten head I think

1039
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten. He had one hundred catch season. Yeah,

1040
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: I remember got like a ninety. He was in the

1041
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: nineties a couple of times. Yeah, all right, Yeah, you

1042
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: mentioned the Giants offensive line, and obviously that's been a

1043
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: struggle for them. Let's see if these young guys can

1044
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: get some pressure, that'd be good Taco and those guys. Yeah,

1045
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: why not? He got me thinking. You know, Taco has

1046
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: been out, he hadn't played for a few weeks. Yeah.

1047
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: And we had a mail back question on Randy Gregory.

1048
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: He's playing six acts in thirteen games, and just the more,

1049
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: ask more question, ask Mickey the same question. Well, the

1050
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: more experience he gets, the better. Yeah, right, just let

1051
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: him keep playing experiencing things. We had a question on

1052
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, Randy Gregory, do you

1053
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: think he can be consistently dominant like we saw against

1054
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: the Bucks last week. Or you think he's going to

1055
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: be more of a good player, just a good player? Yeah,

1056
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: as his ceiling. The question is good player or will

1057
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: he be a guy that I'm not saying that the Marcus,

1058
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, you know, a higher a guy

1059
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna get eight nine sacks a year. So I'm

1060
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: trying to remember how much did he play last year? No? No,

1061
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: he did not. No, he basically didn't played one game.

1062
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: That's why you're trying to gauge where he's gonna be.

1063
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: He got to training camp this year, right, uh some point? Yes, Yeah,

1064
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: he was there for the start of yamp Yes, yes,

1065
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but he did practice right off the bat. Yeah.

1066
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: I think he missed most of the offseason. Is that right?

1067
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to He was not reinstated until training camp. Okay, So,

1068
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: and he's done this with that right, watch out for him.

1069
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: If he keeps himself on the straight and narrow. It

1070
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: seems to be on a pretty good path right now.

1071
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: M boy. What he can do is it look the

1072
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: sack fumble. Yeah, he got ridden off the play, did

1073
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: not give up, No, not as not like he's pretty boy.

1074
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: Out there. I got all these great skills. He came

1075
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: storming back to get Jamis Winston from behind. Yeah, and

1076
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: farantee Winston probably thought that guy's long gone. Well, let

1077
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 1: me tell you this. I'm gonna break that play down

1078
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: for you today. They were they were Deshaun Jackson was

1079
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: wide open and that's who he was loading up to

1080
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: throw the ball too. He Jackson had beaten a Woozier

1081
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: on like he was gonna run the slant. They tried

1082
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: to pick a Woozier and then Jackson broke off the

1083
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: went up the field. A Woozier was a good five

1084
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: yards away from him, and your quarterback was loading up

1085
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: to throw him the ball right down the middle of

1086
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: the field when Randy Gregory hid him from behind. I'll

1087
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: break it down for you guys to day and Dallas,

1088
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: you know what. And I just hope he's gotten to

1089
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: the point where he's enjoying himself because this has been

1090
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: such a struggle. Sure, And I can't remember if I

1091
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: mentioned this on Monday or not, but after the game

1092
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: I got in there late after listening to Jason he said,

1093
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: evidently he had already talked and I didn't hear it.

1094
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: And I went up to him and he was I said,

1095
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: come on, man, he goes, yeah, I don't like to talk.

1096
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: I just want to play. And I said, well, there's

1097
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: something to be said for that. I said, but you

1098
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: need to enjoy this, you know. And he's been a

1099
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: long journey for him, many long journey, and you just

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00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: hope he's enjoying it. Yeah, like enjoying it to the

1101
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: point where now I can take care of the other

1102
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: stuff because I love this so much. And that was

1103
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: Marinelli's deal when they drafted him. Yeah, it was like,

1104
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 1: if the man loves football, he'll do what he needs

1105
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: to do to continue playing. And maybe he's gotten to

1106
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: that point. He's one of a lot of young guys

1107
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: stepping up for this team and they got one more

1108
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: regular season game to go. We'll be back on Thursday

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00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: to talk about it with Bill Jones. Thank you guys

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Speaker 1: for joining us. Thanks to Keith for producing. We'll talk

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00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: to you then. This has been a production of Dallas

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