1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast, a m 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: on iHeart Radio. Nick Redfern is the author of more 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: than forty books on UFOs, aliens, big Foot, Lake Monsters, 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: The Abominable Snowman, Hollywood Scandals, and Immortality of the Gods, 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Weapons of the Gods, Bloodlines of the Gods. He's appeared 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: on many TV shows, including the Travel Channels, Mysteries of 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: the Outdoors and the BBC's Out of This World sci 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Fi Channels, Proof Positive and more. And he's back as 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: a regular contributor here on Coast to Coast am Nick Redfern, Nick, 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Hey, hey, it's going well. Thank 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: you for being on the show with us. Uh. Slender Man, 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: this is something man. They've They've got a new movie 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: coming out. There's been countless video games. They've made this 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: character in Easter Egg in regular video games. He's shown 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: up in some of the modern Warfare and Call of 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Duty games in the background slinking around this creature. This 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: being has become something explosive in no time. Can you 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: give us a little background for listeners that are unfamiliar 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: with this being. What's kind of the genesis point for him? Well, 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: it basically began in the summer of two thousand and 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: nine June two thousand and nine where a website Something 22 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: Awful had a contest basically to see who could come 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: up with the creepiest creature for the Internet, and a 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: number of people submitted photographs and artwork and sort of 25 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: photoshop pictures of strange creatures inserted into regular situations. And 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: one of the people who did this was a guy 27 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: named Eric Nudson, and Eric Nudson is the guy who 28 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: created the slender Man and created the image of this tall, 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: spidery type human being. At least it looks a superficially 30 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: like a human being, a black suit, black tie shirt, 31 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: very long arms right down to the knees, and these 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: tentacle like, octopus like tentacles coming out of its back, 33 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: and so in other word, it looks very creepy. And 34 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: on top of that, it's face is completely face less, 35 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: no eyes, no nose, no mouth, no ears, just sort 36 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: of vague imprints where they should be. And of all 37 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: the various submissions that were made to this contest, the 38 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: slender Man created by Eric Knudson was the one that 39 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: really got everybody's attention and literally within days, it became arguably, 40 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, a full blown phenomenon in the from the 41 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: perspective of people started blogging about it. There were forums 42 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: created in no time at all, chat rooms, Wikipedia pages. 43 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: There was also very popular online series called Marble Hornets, 44 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: which was kind of like a found footage fictional show 45 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: that went on for a lot, very long time and 46 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: had a huge audience. And so it really began to 47 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: take off massively almost immediately, and you had literally thousands 48 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: and thousands of kids, teenagers fixating and obsessing on the 49 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: slender Man and creating their own artwork and uploading it 50 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: and creating backstories for the slender Man as well. And 51 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: and it has really become you know, as you said, 52 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: it's here, there and everywhere, movies, TV shows, um, you 53 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: name it, even songs about the slender Man as well. 54 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: So it's it has really sort of gone literally through 55 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: the roof, you know, in terms of coverage and popularity. 56 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: One of the things I find interesting about this it 57 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: came to our attention just around the same time the 58 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: Black Eyed Kids phenomena seemed to be on the rise. 59 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: And I've always had children, spooky children like that are 60 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: are even more impactful and certainly we've had a good 61 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: run on our show Beyond the Darkness, talking as you 62 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: know about black Eyed kids and what's going on with 63 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: that phenomena. But Slenderman has taken on a totally different, 64 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, more kind of an epic arc in 65 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: the way that people are responding to it. What do 66 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: you think the difference is between that? Yeah, you're right, 67 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: and it's not just in the US, you know, where 68 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: it was created. It's actually all around the world. Um. 69 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: And he has really become a global phenomenon. I mean, 70 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: if you just type slenderman um into into Google, um, 71 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: there are seven million results, um. You know, which is 72 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: which is pretty impressive going for you know, a fictional character. Um. 73 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: And so in that sense, you know, we don't say 74 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: things light has happened too often. Now, you're right with 75 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: the black Eyed chi children, that did start off in 76 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: a similar way, you know, sort of these creepy entities 77 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: with the black eyes, and you know, people say, well, 78 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: is it real or is it an urban legend? Um? 79 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: And it certainly hasn't attained the same level of popularity 80 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: and coverage that the slender Man has, But there are 81 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: parallels for show, you know, in terms of the developments 82 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: and the escalating nature of the phenomenon. 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