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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, It's Sam with a quick announcement, and that

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Speaker 1: is that George and I are returning to San Francisco's

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Speaker 1: catch fust this year and we couldn't be more excited.

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Speaker 1: We're doing two shows this year, So the first one

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Speaker 1: is on January twenty second, and it is a stand

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Speaker 1: up night with George and I split in the bill.

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Speaker 1: And then the second is on January twenty third, and

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Speaker 1: that is a classics Tradio Lab live show with guest segments,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Come to one, come to both.

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Speaker 1: They'll both be wildly different, and we're so excited to

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Speaker 1: be back. We are now obsessed with San Francisco and

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Speaker 1: can't wait to fall in love even harder. Tickets are

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Speaker 1: in our bio and hope to see there. Okay, bye.

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Speaker 2: Podcast starts now. This is George Savers, co host of

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Speaker 2: Stradio Lab, and my debut comedy special is now officially

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Speaker 2: out on all platforms. It is called George Severs A

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Speaker 2: Sense of Urgency. It was filmed in New York City

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Speaker 2: and you can watch it now on Amazon Prime Video,

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Speaker 2: Apple TV, YouTube, Google Play, Vimeo, literally anywhere you can

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Speaker 2: rent or buy movies, and you can also listen to

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Speaker 2: the album on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music and title.

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Speaker 2: It would mean so much to me if you watched

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Speaker 2: it or if you listen to it. If you're a

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Speaker 2: listener of this podcast, I hope you love it. Please

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Speaker 2: rent it, by it, post about it, tag me. It

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Speaker 2: all makes a huge difference in this amazing media environment

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Speaker 2: we find ourselves in. And I just want to say

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Speaker 2: thank you for listening to this podcast over the years.

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Speaker 2: It is the only reason I was able to record

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Speaker 2: a special in the first place. And your support means

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Speaker 2: the world and I love you.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the app, well well well, podcast starts now.

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Speaker 2: Wow, he has his holiday voice on everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's completely different.

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Speaker 2: Cozy mode activate it.

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Speaker 1: The cozy mode activated. We are just sitting here with

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Speaker 2: Oh, global warming is over.

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Speaker 1: I heard and global warming has been solved.

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Speaker 2: Record amounts of snow in Los Angeles and New York City.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm seeing in my weather app.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm seeing in my weather app.

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Speaker 2: My mug, my mug of hot cocoa, big as a bathtub.

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Speaker 2: Am I'm putting in my entire head Ostrich style. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'm sip sip, sipping. You know, Cozy mode activated could

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Speaker 2: be kind of a big concept for us this year,

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Speaker 2: because of course you invented Diva mode activated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when you have a catheter and you don't

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Speaker 2: Do you have a tree yet?

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Speaker 1: I have a Christmas tree?

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Speaker 2: Nice?

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Speaker 1: We got it this day after two days after Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: and it is a gorgeous, stunning we've had. Last year

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Speaker 1: Yes, And we found a gorgeous and stunning, perfect tree

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Speaker 2: Now get this. There are two options in my neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: I tell you the Canadian trees are both better and cheaper,

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Speaker 1: Well, for me, you know, you can take the boy

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Speaker 2: Heated Rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Saying, Yeah, to watch the specifically lowbrow thing that everyone's

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Speaker 1: Rivalry that's very very interesting, and I'm proud of you,

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Speaker 1: It is very sexy.

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Speaker 1: For hockey. For a hockey show. I was surprised at

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Speaker 1: Well, and I'm still keeping up with Survivor, which is

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Speaker 1: Heated Rivalry is an HBO show.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing I thank you for asking. Speaking

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Speaker 2: why it's about hockey.

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Speaker 1: Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.

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Speaker 2: You know who's been silent throughout this whole process is

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Speaker 2: Tate McCrae, one of the largest, one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: I haven't. Well it's not all out. It's coming out

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Speaker 2: First two episodes were following the two leads. Third episode

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've come up with some amazing, amazing ideas

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Speaker 2: You know, my first one is the most kind of basic,

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Speaker 2: your life. You can get them. You can purchase or rent,

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Speaker 2: but preferably purchase the film. The feature film, George severis

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Speaker 1: Now and when legends link up, Yes, and all the

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Speaker 1: Exactly. It's you're paying respects to who you were and

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Speaker 2: So this is for them to actually they can crucify

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Speaker 2: So they get the cross, they put their hands on

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yes, that sounds so amazing. And you know, as

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Speaker 2: can even partner with a local brand to who was

435
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 2: going to make your little strong that you're gonna wear. Well.

436
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: I actually see the photo shoot and it's quite chic

437
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: because you're showing off the abs, you're showing off the

438
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: body like you have been working hard, and you know,

439
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: all you do pretty much is go to the gym

440
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 1: and share. Yes, and so this is like an amazing

441
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 1: way to sort of mix both of your hobbies.

442
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 2: I think it could be really cool. And to do

443
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: something that is so kind of Easter on Christmas is

444
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 2: kind of unexpected.

445
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: That's true. I mean, and don't forget christ don't forget Hello,

446
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: that's half the word christ Mass. Okay, next, Okay, Okay,

447
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: here's something. Okay, here's a gift for moms. Moms are

448
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: so tough because they are always like, we don't want

449
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: any more stuff, Like they're like, enough, we have everything

450
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: we need, Please don't get us anything. But you know

451
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: they're still gonna want something on that special day, on

452
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: Christmas morning with all the cocoa in the world. So

453
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying for your mom this year, get her a

454
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: cameo from Pink.

455
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: I love that.

456
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: Get her a cameo from Pink. She needs an experience.

457
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: Experiential gift is so huge right now. And what's a

458
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: better experience than being talked to by Pink.

459
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: Imagine this. Your mom opens her email, she presss his

460
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: play Pink goes let's raise a glass for Bonnie.

461
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: That would be so amazing.

462
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: Your mom is crying. She is she she's holding a

463
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,719
Speaker 2: little and by a little, of course, I do mean

464
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: large glass of Pino grigio. She's accidentally spilling it. She's

465
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: crying real tears. She's saying, is that Pink?

466
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: Why how does Pink know my name?

467
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: She thinks it's a FaceTime She's saying, Pink, I loved

468
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: then you album, we saw you with the kids in

469
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 2: twenty twelve. Well, now one of them is at amhersts.

470
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: She's studying film studies, whatever that means. But I'm so

471
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 2: happy she's coming back. She's bringing her her girlfriend. Who's they?

472
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: She's they the girlfriend?

473
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think honestly that catharsis. We know how

474
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: Harry is for parents to get into therapy. I think

475
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: if you show them a video of Pink saying their

476
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: name and the mom just kind of goes off speaking,

477
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: that will maybe bring her therapeutic relief in a way

478
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: that she hasn't had in decades.

479
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I think Pink generally speaking, is sort of

480
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: a therapist for moms.

481
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: I'll say, well, she's the only one that can speak

482
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: to the pain and shrife of me, you know, life period.

483
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see, let's see what else do I have here? Okay,

484
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 2: so this is a gift for the adult men men's

485
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 2: wear enthusiasts in your Life and it is a subscription

486
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: to the Financial Times. Oh yes, So you know, these

487
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: are guys who are very good at reading and reading

488
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: about trends and shopping and using their money and kind

489
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: of having the sixth sense where they know what school

490
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 2: and what's not. What if they applied that amazing brain

491
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: power to knowing who the heads of state are in

492
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: various countries and keeping up day to day with what's

493
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: happening globally. You know, these men are thirty seven, forty two,

494
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: forty five. They don't know who's president. You know what

495
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: they do know who the creative director of Duor was

496
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: in the eighties.

497
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

498
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 2: I think this could be a really fun way because

499
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 2: you know, global politics also is kind of like fashion.

500
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: You know, there are different leaders, people are in style,

501
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: people are out of style. You can follow kind of

502
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: like who is hot and who is not, and potentially,

503
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: you know, it could encourage you to kind of like

504
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 2: connect with your fellow man in a way.

505
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: I think this is so genius. I mean the way that,

506
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: first of all, as an accessory, even someone with you know,

507
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: they're wearing head to toe let's say drees, and they

508
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: like pull out their little iPad and start reading the

509
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: Financial Times. I say, like, they could even just be

510
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: fake scrolling, and I said that kind of chic. Yeah,

511
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,239
Speaker 1: well that's kind of fun. And I think that's how

512
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: you're reading that.

513
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: That's how you get them in is you say it

514
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: starts as an accessory and then you kind of like

515
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: a trojan horse, you get them. Suddenly they're reading, they're

516
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: reading the front page. Suddenly they're reading about what's happening

517
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: in the Ukraine. They're saying, I didn't know there was

518
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 2: a country named Ukraine. I didn't know there was I

519
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: only know that Jonathan Anderson left Loeve. I didn't know

520
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: there was a country named Ukraine. But they are reading this,

521
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: they are texting their friends. They are saying, bro, you

522
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: check this out. It's fire. That's what they're saying. That's

523
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: what they're saying about the big article on Ukraine, a

524
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: country they'd never heard of before. And so this is

525
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: a really amazing way because you know, these men again,

526
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: they are thirty seven, they're forty two or forty five.

527
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 2: They mean, well, but they didn't know that there's a

528
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: world outside of things like trends and podcasts and wide

529
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: pants versus narrow pants, you know how long shorts should be.

530
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: You know, certainly they don't have jobs in the traditional sense,

531
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 2: but once they start learning more about the world, maybe

532
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: that'll lead them to you know, let's say LinkedIn dot Com.

533
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just like as a sidebar when

534
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: someone is like I can't believe Blank is leaving Blank,

535
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: Like I can't believe Mark Stevenson is leaving Prada. Yeah,

536
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm always like, what are you talking about? Like I'm

537
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: I do want to be like look in the mirror,

538
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: like do you design clothes or are you just a guide?

539
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: This is so weird.

540
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: It's also so divorced from who is actually buying anything.

541
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: So the people actually buying things from you know, let's

542
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: say Louis Vatan are simply speaking wealthy women buying bags

543
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: in you know, anywhere from China to France. Okay, fine,

544
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 2: And then it like trickles down and then there's like

545
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: a cool New York guy that somehow is knowledgeable of

546
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: who the creative director is, Like this isn't for you.

547
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: It weirds me out big time because also it's like

548
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: it's like there's a it runs with being in like

549
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: middle school and like the one kid who really liked

550
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 1: the Beatles, like it's like there's an allure to knowing

551
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: something that like other people don't know completely. And but

552
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: then you're like five years later you're like, wait, that

553
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: was stupid, Like why was an eight year old obsessed

554
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: with the Beatles.

555
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: Of course, I don't want to make fun of the

556
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: men's guys, because it's certainly more interesting than to me,

557
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: at least than keeping up with sports. So you want

558
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: to reward them. You want to say, Okay, good for you.

559
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: You're actually taking something that is coded more feminine in

560
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: our culture and making it your own. But you know,

561
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: sometimes maybe maybe we're a loafer and not kind of

562
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: an alternative croc.

563
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's that's really smart. I actually have a

564
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: fashion one too.

565
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: Oh nice.

566
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: So this is a staple, as we all know. But

567
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: it's important around Christmas to sort of re up the staples.

568
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: So for the straight guy in your life, get them

569
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: a fleece. Ah, No straight guy is ever upset with

570
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: a fleece. It's perfect, not quite a shirt, not quite

571
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: a jacket. Hello. And it also softens them in a

572
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: literal sense because you're saying, is that guy dangerous? And

573
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: it's like, no, he's wearing a fleece. He can't be

574
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: a bad guy. And it's sort of the literalization of

575
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: a wolf in sheep's clothing, which I find really really poetic.

576
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: And fleeces. I'm gonna be honest. They get dirty. Yeah,

577
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: they're getting dirty as hell.

578
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: No, they have a fully kind of a catlike moth

579
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: ball stuck to them at all times.

580
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're sort of cast iron pans.

581
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: Yes they are. You have to get the coat, you

582
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: have to get a good coat on, and then it

583
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: gets even warmer.

584
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's why it's always important to re up

585
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: on the fleece.

586
00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: We're talking like quarter zip, full zip, you know, ideally

587
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: quarters zip.

588
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: But I get that straight guys get fussy and they

589
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: need to get out of their jackets as quickly as possible.

590
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes they can throw a tantrum, they can. I mean

591
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: I've seen straight eyes choke because they can't get out

592
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: of it fast.

593
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Sometimes if they can't get out of the

594
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: fleece fast enough, suddenly there's a gun out and they're shooting.

595
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: They're shooting at whoever's in front of them, just because

596
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: they can't get out of the quarter zip.

597
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: So I do you know, it's it's high fashion the

598
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: quarter zip, of course, but you could just do full

599
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: zip if you know. They are scared of getting stuck

600
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: in it.

601
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: And it's different for every man, you know, and it

602
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: depends on how you're raising him and the types of

603
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: things he's learning at any given moment. You know, not

604
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: everyone is along the same path. Some men are ready

605
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: for the for a quarter zip, you know, by age

606
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: thirty five. Some need more training, so they'll need more training.

607
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: It's we're all on different paths. We're all on different paths, yes,

608
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: And I think it's just such an amazing piece of clothing.

609
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I have one. So this is for the Rosalia

610
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: fan in your life. It is metamorphosies by Ovid in

611
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: the original laston and then as an added stocking stuff

612
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: for a little baggy of ketamine.

613
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 1: Okay, Now this is interesting.

614
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: Isn't that fun? This is high low. Yes, it's high low,

615
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: you know. And I think that's what Rosalia has to

616
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: offer us, you know. It is you're learning Latin actively

617
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: and you're on ketamine.

618
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: It's sort of like the beer shot, like there's something

619
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: you get a little bit of both. That's really nice

620
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: because it's it's both it's saying grow and it's saying

621
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: but you're fine the way you are. Yes, it's a

622
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: bit of a born this way narrative.

623
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very born this way. I think. I think

624
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: high low gifts in general are kind of like a

625
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: fun thing everyone can do. You know, get one thing,

626
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: you know, a really kind of like beautiful handmade bookend

627
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: or something, and then supplemented with just a jolly rancher loose.

628
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: Well, getting someone two things together is an amazing way

629
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: to tell a story. Yes, it's just and what you're

630
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: telling a story with this combo that I know that

631
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 1: person I know, oh that Rosalia fan. Yeah, and in

632
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: some respects I wish I was that rosal lya fan.

633
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: It's aspirational.

634
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: It's someone that like doesn't want to commit to any

635
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: one narrative. You know, they're showing up to the theater,

636
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: but they're wearing kind of like a thong, like a

637
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: diamond thong. Then they're going to the club, but they're

638
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: reading a book. They want to be the high the

639
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: high bred person at the low bra function and the

640
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: low bred person at the high bra function.

641
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: This is such a type I call it loud and

642
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: quiet places, quiet and loud.

643
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: Yes exactly.

644
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: It is such a type. And you know, I've often

645
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: find myself around these people, and so I'm really grateful

646
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: that you've offered me this gift. Yeah.

647
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: No, I do too, And I weirdly think it's kind

648
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: of Dare I say, that's the new hip archetype. Like

649
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: you know how we used to have the hipster, or

650
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: we used to have the like you know, the hippie

651
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: in the in the sixties or whatever, or the club

652
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: kid or whatever. I think this is now the new

653
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: cool person is quiet and loud places. Loud and quiet places.

654
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. They like just being generally a fish out of water,

655
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: no matter where.

656
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: Yes exactly.

657
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's like, oh, well you're a fish, Well

658
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: then I'll put you in water. And he's like, well,

659
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: not that I'm in water. I'm not a fish anymore. Yes. Wow,

660
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: this is really a groundbreaking I love it. Okay, I

661
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: have here's one. This one is near and dear to

662
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: my heart. This is for any bare party promoters in

663
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: your life, you know, anywhere from nowhere bar to the eagle. Uh.

664
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: They are promoting bear parties and that is valid and

665
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: someone has to do it. They're doing the work. But

666
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: what I think you should get for the Bear party

667
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: promoter in your life is a book called Drawing for

668
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: the Absolute Beginner. So this, I think no one. The

669
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: Bear community has been hit harder by AI than any

670
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: community on Earth. I will say, I think the AI

671
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: party posters have gotten to such a fever pitch that

672
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm worried. I'm worried that the Bear community is forgetting

673
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: how to make a party poster without using AI. And

674
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: so I think you can draw with your own hands

675
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: the biggest guy you can think of, and he can

676
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: have a big beard, yeah, he can have a big belly,

677
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: and he can have a big bulge. Yeah. And it

678
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: can you can do it all yourself. And you can

679
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: even you know, find a meditation in that. And I

680
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: think that will be both a fun project, you know,

681
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: for the holidays, maybe drawing your own party poster, and

682
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: it could maybe get you to feel something. Yeah.

683
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: And I think the Bear community is kind of the

684
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: boomers of the gay community. And I don't mean that

685
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: age wise, some of them are as young as twenty

686
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: two to twenty three, but I think that somehow they

687
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: become vulnerable to these things in the way that other

688
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: people don't. You know, and I'm not saying other communities

689
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: don't have their own flaws, but AI came out bears

690
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: immediately using it, and then and then when someone comments,

691
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: you know, please don't use AI, they're like, what is that?

692
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: They don't even know.

693
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: It's like, you used it, You use it, You're fully right.

694
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: I do think AI is to bears. What like Facebook

695
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: memes are two boomers? Mm hmm, Like it's just like

696
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: we gave it to them before we asked if we

697
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: should like it's it's really and it's it's spread like wildfire,

698
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: and it's creating a sort of a parallel world that

699
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: is unhealthy for everyone.

700
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: No, it's really bad. It's and I think that bears also,

701
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: you know, bears are also vulnerable. Let's say, to maybe

702
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 2: an instagram native jockstrap company, it's it's made of microplastics.

703
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: They're not going to do the research. They're not going

704
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: to look up, you know, where is this made in

705
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: the USA? Is this union made? They're gonna press order.

706
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: And I think that getting mad at them is not

707
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: really helping anyone. It's it's like yelling at your parents

708
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 2: because they have motions smoothing on their TV or whatever.

709
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: People are obsessed with talking about.

710
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: You have to.

711
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: It has to be a kind of inclusive model where

712
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: you know, you it's education forward. You're having a dialogue

713
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: with them, you know, and potentially even going into the

714
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: bear club and saying, so, what is this that I'm

715
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: seeing on this screen? Why is this a cartoon that

716
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: is dancing and it has three arms?

717
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? Whatever happened to just like pulling up old porn,

718
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: Just do old porn and put that on the screen. Yeah,

719
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't need a psychedelic bear turning into a wolf,

720
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: turning into a man turning into a bear turning into

721
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: a wolf. Yeah, it actually makes me a bit nauseous.

722
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well I have bears of course, are a

723
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: big part of the straight Lab listenership. And I have

724
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: a gift for another very big chunk of the straight

725
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: or Lab listenership, which is grad students. So this is

726
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: an amazing gift for the grad student in your life.

727
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: It is a blu ray of the film The Devil

728
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: Wears Praduct. Now hear me out, this is kind of

729
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: out of box. So I was trying to think, what

730
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: is a movie that's kind of just normal? If you

731
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: watch The Devil is product. Pay attention to how people speak.

732
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: That's how normal people speak. You know, they kind of

733
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: speak in like simple short sentences. They reference objects that

734
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: exist in the world and that are not kind of

735
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: theoretical concepts that only you and your three friends know.

736
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 2: There's kind of clear conflict, there's a clear villain. It's

737
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: all very kind of normal. And so if you watch that,

738
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: you'll kind of get the sense there's people from different

739
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: class backgrounds in there. There's people of different genders, but

740
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: in like it just in a way that actually exists

741
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: in the normal world and not just in a book

742
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: you read.

743
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: I think this is so amazing because it's like, you know,

744
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: they love to learn, yes, and what you're doing is

745
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: giving them an educational text because you know, in the

746
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: same way that we've like lost homech and now no

747
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: one knows how to cook anything. Yeah, we've we've lost

748
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: like just sort of socializing and it's time to go

749
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: back to base. And this is this is sort of

750
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: an intro class in reality normal.

751
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and in basic reality. You know, grad students learn

752
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: so much about things that aren't reality, and I think

753
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: that's also really important, and it's obviously very important to

754
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: broaden our horizons and start kind of knowing words like

755
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: the anthropa scene. Of course we all have to we

756
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: all have to interact with that occasionally, you know, but

757
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent of the time. Actually, sometimes it

758
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: can be cool to be just really like rooted in

759
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: reality for at least fifty percent of the week.

760
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, is a good percentage.

761
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: Yes, I would say a good Again, much like the

762
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: high low thing. I would say, if you're rooted in

763
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 2: reality for fifty percent of the week and then rooted

764
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: in theoretical concepts for the other fifty percent, you can

765
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: kind of then bring it together at the end of

766
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: the week every Friday and say got it. So that's

767
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: what I learned. This is how I can apply these

768
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: theoretical concepts of the real world and these real concepts

769
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: to my theoretical studies. But once you're sort of in

770
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 2: the theoretical world for more than fifty percent of the week,

771
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: you start to not make sense anymore.

772
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think this is really really, really helpful.

773
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: And I mean Devil was Product is perfect for that.

774
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: I know, it was more of a perfect movie.

775
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to think of another There just

776
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: is something that is you know, because I don't want

777
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: to give them something that is too rooted in reality.

778
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: I was almost thinking, like when Harry met Sally, Yes

779
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: that could work, like something that's like, so this is

780
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: what relationships are like, and they can be complex, yes,

781
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: and change.

782
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a really good one. And it also

783
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: teaches them about fashion. Oh my god, that's really true. Yeah, Okay,

784
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: let's see. Okay, this is for all the babysitters in

785
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, so it's always tough when you're like,

786
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: have a babysitter. We don't have children, of course, but

787
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: we really know that babysitters exist, and and maybe our

788
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: listeners have kids and have a babysitter. So we were thinking, well,

789
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: I had this thought. I think for for the babysitter,

790
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: the perfect thing is a novelty chord for the phone.

791
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: So you have an iPhone, you have a babysitter on

792
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: the iPhone, but they've lost something in not having a

793
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: landline to call their boyfriend on anymore where they can't

794
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: sort of like fiddle with the cord and like really

795
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: feel in touch with who they're speaking to via the cord.

796
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: And I think giving a babysitter a novelty cord for

797
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: their iPhone. It's like giving an audiophile a vinyl. It's

798
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: just like they get to feel it in a different way.

799
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: And I think this is like exactly what babysitters need

800
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: to more actively be in the moment, speaking with their

801
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: boyfriend and ignoring the children.

802
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: I agree, and I actually think obviously they have to

803
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: ignore the children, but it's important to at least remember

804
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: where they are in physical space and time. And I

805
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: think when you're on the phone and there's nothing rooting

806
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: you to the real world, you kind of can forget,

807
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: and then the children could even like leave the home

808
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: or kind of jump out a window, but potentially go

809
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: into the other room start eating blue. At least when

810
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: you're playing with the cord, it's like rooting you in

811
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 2: space and time, and then you're more aware of sounds

812
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: and movements in your immediate vicinity. So you can talk

813
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 2: to your boyfriend, but then you hear the scream from

814
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: the kitchen. You know, Okay, I should check in on

815
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 2: little Lucy.

816
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: I should check in. Well, there's like, you know, in

817
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: the same way that like, you know, if you're thinking

818
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: about music, you're like, oh my god, the sixties, Like

819
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: I just want to be in the sixties or something,

820
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: and like when you're thinking about babysitting, like all you're

821
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: thinking about is like, God, I wish it was the nineties,

822
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: Like that was like peak babysitting culture. And I think

823
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: this will really transport any babysitter to that time and

824
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: they can be their the babysitter of their dreams. Love that.

825
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: I have one that I just thought about that I

826
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: think we could make work. Okay, you know, this is

827
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: a gift for kind of like optimistic women in the

828
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: Midwest who just like want everything to be nice. Okay,

829
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: So this is it's a It's a set of big

830
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: wooden hangable signs, and each of them say, incursive, the

831
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: name of the room where they are going to be

832
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: hung in. So there's one that says living room in cursive,

833
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 2: you put in the living room, or someone that says

834
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: dining room in cursive, you put in the dining room.

835
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: This might seem almost outdated, you know, we have, of course,

836
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: we've had Home Sweet Home pillows forever. You know, I'm

837
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: not the first person to satirize the pinterest aesthetic, but

838
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 2: there's something about the literal nature of these that I

839
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: think is so fun you know, these kinds of these

840
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: kinds of gals. They love labeling, they love you know,

841
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: purchasing a label maker, having little box and then it

842
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: says stamps on it, you know.

843
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: And I think.

844
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: There's something kind of nice about just organizing the home

845
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: and saying this is the living room and that's why

846
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: there's a sign in it that says living room in cursive.

847
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: I think that's really really amazing. I think it's like

848
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 1: postmodern in this.

849
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: Weird way, yes exactly exactly.

850
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: I mean it reminds me of the like what's like

851
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: this is not a pipe or whatever.

852
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: Yes, it's not a pipe. But also or like the

853
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: Virgil Ablow, like the dress, the off white dress that

854
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: says dress in quotes. Yeah, yeah, it's bringing that into

855
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: the pinterest age.

856
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: I really do think this melds a lot of different

857
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: things because there's also things to play with. Where can

858
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: you imagine putting the living room sign in the kitchen? Yeah, no, exactly,

859
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: that would like call the MoMA. That would really change things.

860
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: And speaking of calling the moment, there's actually a second

861
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 2: part of this, which is if you have gay guy

862
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: friends and maybe even bear gay guy friends, gay guy

863
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: couples in the Midwest, same set, but in Neon Neon signs.

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Speaker 2: That's a living room, bathroom, dining room, kitchen that's good

865
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: like old fashioned looking, you know, maybe repurposed so it's green,

866
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: old fashioned looking kind of bar Neon signs. Wow.

867
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: That sounds really amazing. I mean I can see it

868
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: now on sort of a weird amateur porn yes, where

869
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: they had like a sex party and there are all

870
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: these signs in different rooms and there's like all these

871
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 1: finger foods for some reason, and I can they would

872
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: just fit in the background so well. It'd be like, oh,

873
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: where are they having sex? And it'd be like, that's

874
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: the bedroom. It says bedroom and neon.

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00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I actually, you know, it's interesting. I'm thinking

876
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: about it. There's another there's another set that's available, which

877
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 2: is it's for kind of career gals in New York

878
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: City that live in the West Village and so it

879
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: is a set, but they're actually framed pieces of paper

880
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: where it's handwritten and it says living room AF, bedroom, AF,

881
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: bathroom AF.

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00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: Wow. I mean that sounds so funn powerful. Okay, I

883
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: have another one. Okay, Okay, this is for the dads.

884
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: As we all know, dads are sort of like cattle dogs,

885
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: where if they don't have something to do, they will

886
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: experience mental illness. Correct, So I have decided that the

887
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: perfect gift for the dads out there is planting weeds,

888
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: not weed, the drug weeds. If you can fill a

889
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: yard with weeds a dad, it's like again the dog

890
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: metaphorm kind of stuck on. But it's like when you

891
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: give a dog like a little like sniffing puzzle like

892
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: and it like activates their brain. If a dad has

893
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: a yard full of weeds, he will then spend the

894
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: rest of his life picking weeds out of the yard,

895
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: and it'll stop him from cognitive decline, it'll keep him

896
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: in peak physical shape. It's sort of exactly what you

897
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: need for a dad because again, if they start sitting still,

898
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: they'll die.

899
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's complicated because moms, of course, without any when

900
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: needing to tell them do work around the house. You know,

901
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: they are cleaning, they're cooking, and this is something. And

902
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: then meanwhile, as they're doing quite literally one hundred percent

903
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: of the housework, the dad is walking around saying, God,

904
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: I am bored, I am bored. There is nothing to

905
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: do around here. Now she is doing you know, fifteen

906
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 2: loans of laundry a day. She's going to the dry cleaner.

907
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: She is color coating all the different mugs. The dad

908
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: is saying, oh my God, like, is this all there

909
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: is to life? And so it's important to kind of

910
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: give him a task, preferably outdoors because it hits the

911
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: same neurons that it would hit if he was, you know,

912
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 2: hunting and gathering.

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00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, because well, and to be fair, whenever he

914
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: does anything indoors, he messes everything.

915
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: Up and now we shout it.

916
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: So get him outside. Give him a task that's easy,

917
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: like pulling weeds.

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00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I love it.

919
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean I'm done. Well, those are some amazing gifts. Yeah,

920
00:46:54,160 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm pretty much done. Is there anything we want to George?

921
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: What's I gotta know? What's number one on your Christmas

922
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: list this year?

923
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question. What is number one on

924
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: my Christmas list? What's number one on yours?

925
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: I know it's a tough one. I think. You know,

926
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to want because I just joined

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00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: a gym and the gym is the greatest place I've

928
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: ever been, and it's heaven on earth, and every day

929
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: I go there, I say this is my fucking sanctuary,

930
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: and I think, if anything, I would want them. I

931
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: think a great present for me would be if someone

932
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: were to take a photo of me and hang it

933
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: in the gym and really like, I've only been there

934
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: for one week, but I feel a sense of almost

935
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: like mayorship over it.

936
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: You want someone to hang a photo of you in

937
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: the gym to kind of celebrate that you joined, yeah,

938
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 2: and to announce to everyone this is then you remember.

939
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: Say hi if you see him, his name is Sam,

940
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: Say hi.

941
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: Stay high, and even to be like, hey, like, you're

942
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: gonna be seeing this guy a lot, Like let's just

943
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: cut to the part where we all love each other,

944
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get used to this face.

945
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would actually, you know, I'm also in a

946
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: very community, community oriented spot right now. I would love

947
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: I would love a kind of church that is ethically sound.

948
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be rooted in religion, it doesn't

949
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: have to be rooted in a specific intellectual tradition. But

950
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: I would absolutely love every Sunday to have somewhere to

951
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: go to kiki with my gals.

952
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 1: Well, George, have you considered the value of queer night life?

953
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: I think you're probably right, I think I need to

954
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 2: get my gogurt. I need to order a twelve pack

955
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: of gogurt from Costco and put a couple in my

956
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 2: back pocket and go out clubbing.

957
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: You need to go out. I know for a fact

958
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: you've not been going out as much.

959
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: I know I haven't been going out.

960
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: As much, and that is how you connect with community.

961
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also would like a product that is going

962
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 2: to be just for me. I actually don't think anyone

963
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: else should have access to it, where I put goggles

964
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: on and they tell me if someone is wanting to

965
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: have sex with me or not, or if they just

966
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: for yours or just for me, and then and the exactly,

967
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: and and I can also it can also kind of

968
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: if I want to or don't want to have sex

969
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: with them, it can kind of laser that into their

970
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: brain and then it can sort of be fixed.

971
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Similarly, I want an app that's like Grinder

972
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: or Sniffies even, but it's just for which friends want

973
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: to hang out at which time, because I feel so

974
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: much shame when I text someone want to hang out

975
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: and they're like I'm not free or I'm out of town.

976
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: Like then I'm like God, I'm a fucking idiot, Like,

977
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: why would I ever think that they would be in town?

978
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: And then I recoil and so and then I have

979
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: that fear of texting people to hang out, and I

980
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: just there's a way to be like looking for now,

981
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: looking for now, like I want to hang out, I

982
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: want to hang out.

983
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 2: I know, you know it's we are both touching on

984
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: this need for community, and you know, I think of

985
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: both of us as people who do have community and

986
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: who are kind of like really putting in the hours

987
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: of seeing people in real life and meat space, as

988
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: they say, And yet it's not quite We don't have

989
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: the technology available yet to make it as a seamless

990
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: and frictionless as possible. Of course, you could say the

991
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 2: desire to make it seamless and frictionless is a sort

992
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: of late capitalist lie, and that part of being human

993
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: is embracing all the imperfections of social life. But well,

994
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: to that, I say, how about you shut up.

995
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: Well, this is also why we need more spaces, Like

996
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: if I go to, say the Eagle on a Thursday night,

997
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying looking for now socially, and everyone else that's

998
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: there is also in theory, looking for Now socially, and

999
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: then we can socialize there. You know, as these spaces die,

1000
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: it's sort of like, where do you go just to

1001
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: hang out with people in a casual sense? Yeah, and

1002
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: the answer is my amazing gym. Well, this has been

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Speaker 1: our amazing gift guide. We hope that you found it helpful,

1004
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: and we hope you have an amazing holiday season. Whatever

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00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: is you're getting up.

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Speaker 2: To, we hope you have an amazing holiday season. We

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00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: hope that you are activating cozy mode. You know, I

1008
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: think this holiday season really is about reflection. Zora O.

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Speaker 2: Neil Hurston once said some years are for asking questions

1010
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: and some years are for answering them. And I actually

1011
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 2: think that in many ways, twenty twenty five was for asking,

1012
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty six we're gonna have to find some answers.

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Speaker 2: So this is our last chance. These next two weeks

1014
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: are our last chance to kind of think on all

1015
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Speaker 2: the various questions that have been asked, many of them

1016
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: really offensive ones, many of them productive ones. And I

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00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: think once it's January, it's time to start taking some action.

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Speaker 1: We're excited to start taking some action. Oh brother, oh brother, Wow,

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00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: what an amazing yawn to end cozy mode.

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