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Speaker 1: Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I

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Speaker 1: hope all of you are having fabulous weeks so far.

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Speaker 1: We are here hopefully to make that a bit better

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Speaker 1: than it otherwise would be. The government is shut down,

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Speaker 1: what is the impact we will discuss. Buck is not

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Speaker 1: shut down, but he is in Taiwan right now and

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Speaker 1: he is continuing to travel around over there. He'll be

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Speaker 1: back Monday on the program, just to FYI, so you

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Speaker 1: have got me as you have on Monday and Tuesday

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Speaker 1: solo for the rest of this week, we will take

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Speaker 1: your calls, we will take your talkbacks. We will dive

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Speaker 1: into a variety of different pertinent subjects. We're going to

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Speaker 1: be joined by Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett. He was listening

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Speaker 1: to our discussion about why congressional stock trading is not

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Speaker 1: banned and he has some strong thoughts on that. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we'll talk about the shutdown as well. And then

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Speaker 1: at two o'clock our friend Tutor Dixon. I just saw

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Speaker 1: her last week speaking when I was speaking up in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: She will join us. She's part of the Clay and

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Speaker 1: Buck podcast network. We had a really good time hanging

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Speaker 1: out up at mckinaw Island where the Michigan Republican Party

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Speaker 1: was having there by annual event at the Grand Hotel

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Speaker 1: up there. So that was a lot of fun, and

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Speaker 1: I was there last week. I think I was there

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Speaker 1: last week. Everything runs together, but I guess it was

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago. We will dive into a lot of topics,

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Speaker 1: but off the top, the shutdown is underway, and I

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Speaker 1: got to be honest with y'all. You know, and I

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Speaker 1: think Buck and I have talked about this quite a

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Speaker 1: bit on the program. We are not of the opinion

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Speaker 1: that the shutdown is ultimately that big of a story,

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Speaker 1: because eventually it will get resolved and we'll just add

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Speaker 1: on more debt. But I do want to give you

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Speaker 1: some historical analogy of where we are. Since nineteen seventy six,

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Speaker 1: the US government has shut down twenty times. So if

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Speaker 1: you were out there and you're thinking, this just feels

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Speaker 1: like the same plot over and over again, Groundhog Day,

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Speaker 1: in many ways it is. There were no shutdowns between

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five and twenty thirteen, but three have occurred

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Speaker 1: in the twelve years since. The longest one was in

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Speaker 1: Trump one point zero and that lasted thirty four days

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Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen. Really, the essence of this shutdown,

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Speaker 1: just so you know, is a battle over whether there

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Speaker 1: should be an extension of COVID healthcare policies, which were

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Speaker 1: put in place by Democrats as part of their massive blockbuster,

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Speaker 1: out of control spending bills that they forced through in

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Speaker 1: the COVID era. And the reason why this spending cost

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Speaker 1: relatively short period of time so that it did not

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Speaker 1: continue to cost money going forward. Now, this is me,

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Speaker 1: and you have heard me go off on this quite

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Speaker 1: a lot. The healthcare system in the United States is broken.

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Speaker 1: Every single one of you listening to me right now

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Speaker 1: is nodding along because it is just a broken marketplace.

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Speaker 1: It makes no sense the way we have designed it.

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Speaker 1: It is the most inefficient and the least effective part

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Speaker 1: of I would argue the American economic system. It is

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Speaker 1: anti capitalistic in many ways. It is profoundly broken. This

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Speaker 1: spending package that the Democrats are insisting on continuing would

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Speaker 1: add up over the next decade, according to the Wall

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Speaker 1: that is in a large extent unnecessary. And so this

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Speaker 1: let me give you a little bit of a background

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Speaker 1: So we begin with the foundational point that the healthcare

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Speaker 1: system in this country is broken, and anybody who's ever

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Speaker 1: knows exactly what I'm talking about. Studies suggest that one

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Speaker 1: reason our healthcare system is broken, probably the primary one,

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Speaker 1: is nobody has any idea what anything costs, and so

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Speaker 1: you can't make a rational decision in your life about

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Speaker 1: because a lot of times you don't have the information

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Speaker 1: as you're not a doctor, as necessary. And what has

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Speaker 1: She was on the ball, knew where our healthcare card was,

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Speaker 2: It's all broken.

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Speaker 1: All of it is broken, and I could get on

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Speaker 1: we hope to never use, and the entire insurance industry

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Speaker 1: is totally broken. In conjunction with health care, we spend

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Speaker 1: that you could eliminate half of all medical treatments and

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Speaker 1: there wouldn't be any change in life expectancy in this country.

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Speaker 1: So my general proposition is, I don't want to take anything.

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Speaker 1: tax policy. Instead, we have just continued to add layer

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Speaker 1: the future. And Democrats want to provide healthcare for as

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Speaker 1: ultimately this is paid for by all of you out

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Speaker 1: because it's predicated on giving insurance companies more money, and

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Speaker 1: because we had to pay less money, but we paid

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Speaker 1: a fraction as uninsured walking into a clinic patience of

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Speaker 1: You pay a lot, many people pay virtually nothing at all. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there will be absolutely no impact to your life whatsoever

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Speaker 1: by the fact that the government has shut down. In fact,

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Speaker 1: a lot of you are saying I wouldn't mind the

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Speaker 4: What if I persuaded my caucus to say I'm going

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Speaker 1: now by Congressman Tim Burchett of the Great State of Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Government is shut down. We're going to get into that.

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Speaker 1: But Congressman, you wanted to come on because you're as

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Speaker 1: I mean, Nancy Pelosi is Warren Buffett level investing savant.

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Speaker 1: Isn't this just even if it's not actually improper, it

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Speaker 5: I agree with one hundred percent, and thank you so

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Speaker 5: much for letting me come on with you. It's an honor.

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Speaker 5: Congress is broke, and it is crooked as a dog's leg, brother.

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Speaker 5: There is no other explanation when a congressman can make

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Speaker 5: It is unfreaking believable. I mean, people are making a

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Speaker 5: Warton Buffett needs Warren Buffett needs to go to the

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Speaker 5: to Pelosi. It is unbelievable. And we can't even get

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Speaker 5: the bill in committee, neither party. They're gutless. They are gutless,

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Speaker 5: and it is shady as all get out. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I have a I had a twelve thousand dollars portfolio

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Speaker 5: that my buddy Tommy Siler managed. Everybody needs a bad

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Speaker 5: gum mutual fund, and that's what that we ought to do.

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Speaker 5: And I get sick and tired here in people in

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Speaker 5: it go home and let somebody else do it. That's

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Speaker 5: not sacrificing so much. America is tired of this garbage.

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Speaker 5: It is broke. You've called it out. We've called it out.

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Speaker 5: And here's what's going to happen if we do get

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Speaker 5: this bill before and Luna has represent Annapolina Luna, she's

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Speaker 5: but still she's going to take my bill, which is

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Speaker 5: a clean bill, just says no stop trading them, you know,

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Speaker 5: for members of Congress unless it's a mutual fund and

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Speaker 5: your and your siblings and your wife and spouse whatever,

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Speaker 5: and that's it. That should be it. You know, make

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Speaker 5: the dad gum sacrifice. It's crazy, you know, I make skateboards.

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Speaker 5: It's and I'm sixty one years old, and I haven't

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Speaker 5: I always tell people that when I work on these skateboards,

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Speaker 5: it's cheaper than a psychiatrist. It's good therapy for me.

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Speaker 5: But people want to buy them, so I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: sell skateboards. But dad, gummut, if I want to do

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Speaker 5: insider trading, just become a member of Congress, and it

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Speaker 2: It is wild.

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Speaker 1: And you know I was going off on this congressman

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Speaker 5: Well, some of them do hundreds of hundreds, I know,

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Speaker 5: any more any I haven't vote for any dollars for Ukraine.

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Speaker 5: I'm sick of that. But anyway, that's another story. Well,

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Speaker 5: it turns out that members of some of our military

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Speaker 5: a couple of weeks prior to it. Now, why you say,

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Speaker 5: up dramatically. And yet that's common practice in Congress. They

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Speaker 5: can watch the trends. You're in the meetings, you know,

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Speaker 1: How does this shutdown end up ending Congressman? Like, where

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Speaker 5: When Schumer sees his polling numbers declining, I think what's

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Speaker 5: really behind it? And this is my theory. I've put

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Speaker 5: millions of dollars overnight. Just that was me snapping my

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Speaker 5: fingers overnight, Hollywood. All the elitists, they'll be throwing the

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Speaker 5: New York mayor's race, where literally a Marxist communist will win,

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Speaker 5: probably unless something lets God Shine's favor upon the poor

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Speaker 1: By the way, God shining favor on the poor folks

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Speaker 2: That's how bad of the situation they're in.

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Speaker 5: is watching his review mirror. He knows his polling numbers,

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Speaker 5: grandkids if he has any, and get out of this

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Speaker 5: thing he has left. You know, he was he wasn't

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Speaker 5: a moderate, but he was just an old classic liberal

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Speaker 5: and now he's just turned far left as you can get.

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Speaker 5: And all it is is about staying in power. And

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Speaker 5: that's what Washington, d C. Is truly about leadership. They

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Speaker 5: love the suburbans, they love the you know, four deep

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Speaker 5: with security, they love the spotlight, they love never standing

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Speaker 5: has come and gone, like a whole lot of them

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Speaker 5: That is why he's going to wreck this country. It's

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Speaker 5: just to keep himself in power. And a came. You know,

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Speaker 5: he's out there talking about something nobody's paying attention to him.

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Speaker 5: He's saying, how the House Republicans are shutting government down.

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Speaker 5: We voted to keep the Dad given government open. Only

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Speaker 5: one Democrat voted with us. And you know, the whole

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Speaker 5: thing is just it's so obvious. And as soon as

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Speaker 5: he's polling data flips on him, he'll be at the

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Speaker 5: table with Trump. But he won't be till then.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Congressman Tim Burchett at Tennessee. How did

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Speaker 1: you get into skateboarding and making skateboards?

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Speaker 5: Well, I didn't smoke pot and I didn't drink, although

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Speaker 5: since I've become a member of Congress, I've fiercely considered

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Speaker 5: taking on crack cocaine just to take off the edges.

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Speaker 5: But but no, I just always liked it. I liked

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Speaker 5: I liked the physics of it. And and I'm an inventor.

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Speaker 5: I've always just make stuff. And I had a little

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Speaker 5: piece of ply wood and some old skates and I

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Speaker 5: put it on there and I would just and you

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Speaker 5: could that's those are death traps, you know. And and

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Speaker 5: I never and you know, my dad would challenge me,

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Speaker 5: if you can get to the end, to see if

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Speaker 5: you get to the end of the driveway or something

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Speaker 5: that you know eventually I would and then and so

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Speaker 5: I and I'm just I've always been fascinated by bamboo.

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Speaker 5: It's the poor man's carbon fiber. I read an article

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Speaker 5: on it in nineteen eighty in a national geographic and

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Speaker 5: so I started just I've always done stuff and tinkered,

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Speaker 5: and now that I've got some equipment to do it.

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Speaker 5: And my major was technological Adult Education, certified to teach shop. Basically,

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Speaker 5: I can weld and build engines and I can burn

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Speaker 5: your house down if you want me to wired. I'm

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Speaker 5: not very good at that, but I can do all

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Speaker 5: those things. I can do casting and just all the

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Speaker 5: stuff around the machine shop. But I just like it.

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Speaker 5: And then I'm a capitalist at heart. And I read

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Speaker 5: somewhere that there's a I think it's a five billion

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Speaker 5: dollar industry in this country. Now I don't want all

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Speaker 5: five billion of it, but I wouldn't mind shaving a

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Speaker 5: little off the edge. And so you know, I make

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Speaker 5: it out of ricycled stuff, mainly because I'm cheap. I

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Speaker 5: guess I'm fiscally smart. But you know, I use old

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Speaker 5: palettes and I've been using banana fibers off of banana

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Speaker 5: plants that I've grown, and I'm just just all over

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Speaker 5: about it. I just and and skateboards something you can

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Speaker 5: make small and you can transport easily and kids. And

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Speaker 5: when you see a sixty one year old out there

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Speaker 5: with his vans on skateboarding on a board that he

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Speaker 5: built himself, it's kind of cool and it's good to

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Speaker 5: bring up conversation, and you know, and I like it.

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Speaker 5: And again, as I say, it's cheaper than a psychiatrist.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Congressman Tim Burchett of Tennessee. All right,

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Speaker 1: I got the ultimate controversial question for you here to

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Speaker 1: close up the interview, Congressman, all Right, better decision, Who

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Speaker 1: made the better decision? Who made the worst decision? I

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Speaker 1: know you are a big University of Tennessee football fan.

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Speaker 1: Nico going to UCLA transferring from Tennessee going to UCLA.

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Speaker 1: UCLA is now lost every game. His head coach has

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Speaker 1: been fired, his offensive coordinator has been fired. Sorry UCLA

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Speaker 1: fans out there catching astray. You didn't expect this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Nico to UCLA? That choice or Kamala Harris picking Tim

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Speaker 1: Walls as her vice president?

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Speaker 2: Who made the worst decision? Who made the better decision?

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Speaker 2: You're on the floor.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna say Kamala because she was a train wreck anyway,

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Speaker 5: and she just picked a bigger train wreck. I almost.

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Speaker 5: You know, they always stick somebody who I always feel

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Speaker 5: like somebody that's not going to overshadow him a lot

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Speaker 5: of times. But I the JD Vance, as we say

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Speaker 5: in East Tennessee. He kicks the ass. I like JD.

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Speaker 5: He's strong and he's a kind of a buddy of mine,

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Speaker 5: I guess. But yeah, that gum when they call him

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Speaker 5: tampon tim or something, I don't like saying it, but

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Speaker 5: he is just a he's a knucklehead man. He just

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Speaker 5: can't get out of his own way. I don't know

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Speaker 5: who he was running against to get elected governor out there,

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Speaker 5: but that gum must have been a convicted fella and

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Speaker 5: getting ready to go to the electric chair or something.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure the Republicans put up against him him,

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Speaker 5: But yeah, Nico, I mean, he just took some mad advibes.

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Speaker 5: But he's he'll get a little bit of a paycheck.

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Speaker 5: And if he's he can just get all his groupies

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Speaker 5: and family away from him, he might be okay. He

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Speaker 5: might be able to salvage something in the Canadian Football League.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that's where I'm at. Where I get myself

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Speaker 5: in any more trouble.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm already thinking The headline for the New York

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Speaker 1: Times is going to be Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett praises

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Speaker 1: Nico for his move to UCLA. Hey, this is this

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Speaker 1: is a lot of fun, and I would argue I

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Speaker 1: love the Tim Walls. You may have seen the meme

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Speaker 1: Congressman where it shows Barack Obama and he says I

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Speaker 1: need someone dumber than me, as VP Joe Biden. Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden says I need someone dumber than me as VP

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris says I need someone dumber than me,

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Speaker 1: and it's Tim Walls. There's a lot of truth to that.

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Speaker 1: And we have seen a rapid descent and intelligence across

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Speaker 1: the board there. We appreciate the time. If people want

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Speaker 1: to get the skateboard, by the way, where do they go?

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Speaker 5: Well nowhere Yet I'm okay, I got a business plan.

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Speaker 5: I got to put it on ethics and so they

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Speaker 5: can approve it or not.

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Speaker 1: Hey, if Hunter can sell paintings for five hundred thousand dollars,

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Speaker 1: I would think you could probably sell a skateboard for

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Speaker 1: a couple one hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: But what do I know?

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Speaker 5: Well, the Biden family couldn't spell ethics. So I just

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Speaker 5: want to be the man my little girl thinks I am,

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Speaker 5: so I must try to follow the rules here. I

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Speaker 5: get my lawyers involved and we'll get it all worked

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Speaker 5: out eventually, hope the end of the year. Hopefully in

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Speaker 5: time for Christmas.

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Speaker 1: That's the goal, just in time for Christmas. Hey, we

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Go big Orange and we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you again soon.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, brother, appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 2: Man he is great.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Tim Burchett of Tennessee, let me give you a

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. Doug in West laws

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Speaker 1: In Doug, I'm sorry if you're a UCLA guy, that

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Speaker 1: was a fabulous question. I thought the Congressman tried to

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Speaker 1: dodge it a little bit there, and I know he

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. He's a huge college football fan. But what

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Speaker 1: do you got to tell us about UCLA?

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Speaker 7: Well, not only was coach Foster the head coach fired,

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Speaker 7: and the defensive coordinator parted ways of the team, the

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Speaker 7: offensive coordinator yesterday. The defensive coordinator left, so it has

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Speaker 7: not been a good season.

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Speaker 5: And the.

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Speaker 7: Quarterback from Appalachian State transferred to UCLA for one quarter

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Speaker 7: and then he's now the quarterback at Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he's leading the entire sec and passing yards.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sorry for Bruin spe Thank you for the call,

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Speaker 1: by the way from West La. I'm sorry for everybody

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Speaker 1: out there in Westwood, all of the UCLA fans. This

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Speaker 1: is a dumpster fire of epic proportions. So it's right

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Speaker 1: up there with Kamala picking Tim Walls. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: is a tough one to decide who made the worst

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Speaker 1: decision when we come back. I think I mentioned this

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Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday, but I want to really kind

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Speaker 1: of dive into it because I do think it's incredibly

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Speaker 1: impactful in the larger culture. Remember that Sydney Sweeney jeans ad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: American Eagle is printing money as a result.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why it matters next