1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Our two on this Wednesday, Dan and the 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: dan 'stan Patrick Show. Glad to have you on board. 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Stay awhile if you can, you can watch on Peacock 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: and that's our TV partner. All three hours available free 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: download the app, and we say good morning to our 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: radio affiliates around the country, numbering over three hundred and 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: seventy cities. Got some information from Michelle Tafoya, the great 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: sideline reporter for Football Night in America now Football Afternoon 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: in America, with the game coming up later on this 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: afternoon in Pittsburgh. She says the game she believes will 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: be played, although the Ravens are being tested this morning. 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: She did say that JK. Dobbins and mark Ingram will 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: not be playing. They did not make the trip to Pittsburgh, 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: so you're going to third and four string running backs there. 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: The Ravens have until twelve to thirty Eastern to make 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: any roster move. She also mentioned that the long snapper 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: for Justin Tucker is not playing in this game, so 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: they have a backup there. Just something to file away 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: as it stands right now for entertainment purposes only. These 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: Steelers or ten and a half point favorites, but history, 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: if it's any indication, they usually play close games. Twenty 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: the last twenty seven games that these two teams have 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: played have been decided by seven points or less. You 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: go back to two thousand and seven. We expect that, 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: but usually that's with a Ravens team that's fully assembled 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: and has always been competitive, and the same with the Steelers. 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: It's rare when these two teams, any of these or 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: either these two teams have a down year, but twenty 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: of the last twenty seven have been decided by seven 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: points or less. RG three is set to make his 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: start in place of Lamar Jackson today. Ben Roethlisberger has 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: won his last eight starts against former Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks. 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: The last time he lost to a Heisman Trophy winning 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: quarterback Carson Palmer and the Raiders in twenty twelve. The 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: only quarterback with a longer such winning streak all time 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: is Tom Brady. He's won eleven consecutive games against former 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks. He's so Ben has beaten Robert 39 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: Griffin Junior, the third, Cam Newton, Marcus Mariot to Baker Mayfield, 40 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: Cam Newton, Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow. Who even 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: thinks of the stat to come up with the stat? 42 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: That's what I'm always amazed at. Where somebody goes, hey, 43 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: did you know here's a stat for you? And I'll 44 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: go first of all, who thought of the stat to 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: go get the stat? That's what I'm impressed by, Yes, PAULI, 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm still fascinated by Robert Griffin's career. In twenty twelve, 47 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: he goes nine and six as a rookie with Washington, 48 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: which is, you know, like going fifteen and one with 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: any other team. Twenty touchdowns, five picks, Pro Bowl, gets 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: all the endorsements that Andrew Luck passed on. And I 51 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: know he had injuries, but it feels like it's he's 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: just in the holding pattern of being a career backup 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: and he's only thirty years old. I feel like he's 54 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: never gotten a full another shot. But I don't know 55 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: what happened to him as far as his speed, because 56 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: he had world class speed. And I remember watching a 57 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Washington game in the early stages of his career and 58 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: he went around the left side and he hit a 59 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: different gear and then I went. That's different. But I 60 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: don't know the injuries that you know with surgeries, what 61 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: that took away from him, because you would have thought 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: if he still had that and still has the ability 63 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: in today's NFL where you almost welcome in that style, 64 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: would r G three be able to be successful? At 65 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: times he's made poor decisions based off his health or 66 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: putting his health in jeopardy on the field. But I 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: don't know what he's You know, if teams look at 68 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: him and go he is just a backup quarterback. He's 69 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: just an insurance policy. He's not somebody who can lead 70 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: your offense for a prolonged y at a toime. Yeah point. 71 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: His rookie year he ran for almost nine hundred yards 72 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: and seven touchdowns. If I would have told you after 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: that year that neither he nor Andrew Luck would make 74 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, you probably would have go bet 75 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: against both. That you would probably bet on both our 76 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: future Hall of famers. Well, I would have Andrew Luck 77 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: RG three. I think RG three got a bad label 78 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: in college where I don't know if people looked at 79 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: him and said that he was a legitimate quarterback. But 80 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: if you watched him, he could throw the deep ball, 81 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: and he did have a lot of weapons at Baylor, 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: but he was known for his legs. He was known 83 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: for that ability to turn a five yard ten yard 84 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: game into a sixty yard game. But you get to 85 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: the NFL and you start running and not running out 86 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: of bounds, or you start taking on linebackers, you're not 87 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: going to last. And he's made a couple of those 88 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: very poor decisions. Yes, he wasn't that. I might have 89 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: the details of this a little wrong. But when he 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: finally came back from that knee injury, wasn't it in 91 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: one of his first games back, or maybe his first 92 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: game back, that he's running down the side line and 93 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: brought his shoulder right into whoever I was trying to 94 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: tackle him. And that's put him out for the rest 95 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: of the season. His next injury, that shoulder injury, was 96 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: another like where you're like, dude, just slide, slide, what 97 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: are you taking that contact for? And he like initiated 98 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: he did it a couple of times, and I kept thinking, 99 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, and I've been around r G three and 100 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: he looks like he weighs one hundred and eighty pounds 101 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: and he was taking on these linebackers and I kept thinking, 102 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: you have the speed to get out of bounds. You 103 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: don't get extra credit if you take on a linebacker. 104 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: You don't, you know, in the tough guy department. Good 105 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: luck with that, because the tough guy department is filled 106 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: with a bunch of guys who thought they were tough 107 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: and now they're injured. You go in there and you 108 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: got like, wow, this is a crowded room. Yeah he 109 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: thought he was tough. Yeah, he thought he was tough, 110 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: and they're all fighting each other, yas mcglovn. But we 111 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: fool ourselves with this model every time, right, Lamar Jackson 112 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: takes on linebackers like and we think he's gonna last 113 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: and he's not. Like it's only worked once. It's Russell Wilson. 114 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: You can't run for eight hundred yards and season not 115 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: get shoulder surgery. It's gonna it doesn't catch up to everybody, Yes, 116 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: but it's it depends on how you're used. If you 117 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: have design runs. You know, Cam, I thought, as big 118 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: as he was, you could have design runs for him 119 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: in Carolina because he was as big, if not bigger 120 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: than some of the defensive players he was going against. 121 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: But I still don't want my quarterback taking on a 122 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: defensive player because they're trained to hit you and hurt you. 123 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: And as a running back or a quarterback who's running, 124 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: you're not as trained as a running back would be 125 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: to then give a blowback. And that's what running backs 126 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: would do. They would they would deliver a blowback to 127 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 1: the defensive player. You know, Cam is we'll never see 128 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: Cam of twenty fifteen, and maybe that's not even fair 129 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: to him, but at some point, those hits take a toll, 130 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and just by sheer attrition, you know, you slow down, 131 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: and when you slow down, there's a younger guy coming 132 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: in who speeds up, and then you're in trouble. But 133 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: RG three did capture the football world's imagination when he 134 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: first started out, and we'll see how he plays today. 135 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: I hope he plays well. Like I want to see 136 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: a competitive game. I just don't know if we are 137 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: because Pittsburgh should be great today and Baltimore's coming in. 138 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: Probably you have players introducing themselves to other players on 139 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: the team today, and this is a big game for Baltimore. Obviously, 140 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh wants to go undefeated, they want to have the 141 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: number one seed. Baltimore is just trying to hold on 142 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: and make a playoff, and who would have thought that 143 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year. Yeah, McLevin. Do you 144 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: think if Pittsburgh loss a narrative, would it be that 145 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: they sort of got screwed over by the league, because 146 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, as we've said all week, they're out of rhythm. 147 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: Would that be a problem, like it be a huge 148 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: asterisk loss. I don't know if we're going to attach that. 149 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh at home with being rested, well rested, they don't 150 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: have to travel, they didn't have to deal with COVID. 151 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: They have two positive tests. Baltimore doesn't know who they're 152 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: going to have, and they were the ones that had 153 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: to travel to Pittsburgh. There was gonna be Thursday. It 154 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 1: was gonna be a Sunday. It's gonna be a Monday. 155 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Tuesday. Now here's it's Wednesday afternoon. 156 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: There's no excuses for Pittsburgh in this situation. Baltimore has 157 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: some excuses, but that doesn't matter in the win in 158 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: las column. It just doesn't all right? Eight seven seven 159 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: three d P Show Email address DP at dan Patrick 160 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: dot com, Twitter handle at dp's show. Get some phone 161 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: calls in here by the way. Coming up, we'll talk 162 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: to Pat forty. I was watching the College Football Playoffs 163 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: Selection Committee's show last night, hosted by Rhees Davis, and 164 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: I didn't expect any information, any headlines there. As I 165 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: said in the first hour, I was just curious about 166 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: Iowa State. They beat Texas, they're moving up. I was 167 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: curious about Cincinnati. Cincinnati didn't have a game last weekend, 168 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: b YU. I was curious about them, and all of 169 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, Kirk curb Street then says the following, I 170 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: still think Michigan waves the white flag potentially avoids playing 171 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: Ohio State next week, and then David, they'll potentially get 172 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: a game on the nineteenth. They could be sitting there 173 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: with six games and Michigan. Is that fair, David, Michigan 174 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: could opt out basically of that game and keep Ohio 175 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: State out of six games to qualify for the Big 176 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: Ten Championship. That doesn't make sense to me, but I 177 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: think a lot of people wanted to see where Ohio 178 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: State would be if he used a different expression then 179 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: raise and wave the white flag and opting out. If 180 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: he said, hey, I wonder if Michigan now and I'm 181 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: only going by what my source told me after this 182 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: when he saw what Herbie had to say, and I 183 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: texted him and I said, wow, because yesterday, at this 184 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: time I had told you that Michigan might not be 185 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: able to play or field a team, a competitive team 186 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: to face Ohio State, and then they might not be 187 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: able to play, and in the process they wouldn't be 188 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: humiliated by Ohio State, and therefore Ohio State would not 189 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: qualify to play for the Big Ten Championship. That's what 190 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: my source said yesterday. Herbie just went too far where 191 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: you say they're gonna wave the white flighting, so you're 192 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: gonna surrender. You don't want to be embarrassed. You're gonna 193 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna opt out of this. Not based off COVID, 194 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: you're opting out, my source said, and followed up this 195 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: morning by saying Michigan might not be able to field 196 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: a competitive team against Ohio State. We still don't know 197 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: if Ohio State's playing this weekend against Michigan State, and 198 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: that's something to factor in as well. It's only Wednesday. 199 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: They won't have their coach, they won't have some more 200 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: key players, and from what my source said, they're doing 201 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: everything they can possibly do to get this game in. Yeah. Seed. 202 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: So now granted we didn't hear the whole segment there, 203 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: so I want to be fair to that. But you know, 204 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: he did say I still think he didn't say, like 205 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm being told Michigan is going to wave 206 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: the white flag. He said that I still think Michigan 207 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: waves the white flag? Is that? Is there any difference 208 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: in that? Well, he said that some coaches have said 209 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: their teams that are opting out avoiding playing other teams. 210 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: So I think coupled with that, you know, this is 211 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: based off Florida State in Clemson. And my source even 212 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: said yesterday, you know, Herbie's sons play for Clemson. He 213 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: probably was talking to Dabo and Dabbo's still you know 214 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: in the poll on his soapbox saying, hey, Florida State 215 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: didn't want to play offs, and is Michigan giving the 216 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: presentation that they don't want to play Ohio State. They 217 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: may not want to play Ohio State, but I can't 218 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: imagine that they would go, how do we get out 219 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: of not playing COVID that's it. I can't imagine that 220 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: Jim Harball would would say or as players would say that, 221 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: but Herbie did walk it back and say, look, I 222 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: don't have any information on this. This was just, you know, 223 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: my opinion on this, and I apologize and it was 224 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: a lengthy apology there, but he did walk it back. 225 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: But I'm just going on what my source said yesterday. 226 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: If Michigan can't field a competitive team, will they play 227 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: this game? And if they don't play this game, they 228 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: don't get humiliated by Ohio State and they keep Ohio 229 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: State from playing in the Big Ten Championship. So one 230 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: shouldn't have something have to do with the other things. 231 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Are you able to feeld a competitive petitive team? How 232 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: is COVID impacting your team? Then as a result, you 233 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: won't get humiliated and Ohio State doesn't get to play 234 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: another game. But I think you got to start with 235 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: being fair to Michigan with COVID, with the number of 236 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: positives that they have, and then Ohio State doesn't even 237 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: have their head coach this weekend, Ryan Day tested positive 238 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know how many more positives you're going 239 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: to have the rest of this week. It's only Wednesday morning, 240 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: and there is a distinct possibility. As I told you 241 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: on Monday, my source said that you're going to have 242 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: the Northwestern game is going to be in jeopardy, and 243 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: so is Ohio States game. Well, Northwestern's game that canceled, 244 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: and now we're seeing at full Ohio States able to 245 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: get this game in against Michigan State. Yes, boy, I 246 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: can remember we did the show in mid September when 247 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: the Big Ten laid out their schedule after they paused everything, 248 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: and we were discussing how cool is this Michigan versus 249 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: Ohio State. In early December, it'll be snowing. They could 250 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: be playing for the Big Ten title. One of the 251 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: two will be going to the national title game. It's 252 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: completely changed, like that doesn't even feel like it feels 253 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: like a relevant game, but not a good football game. 254 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: Are we going to stay with the poll question? Mcleven? Yeah, 255 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: I put up the NBA you can only watch one 256 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: Christmas Day game and it's actually there's a runaway leader 257 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: early Lakers MAVs, no big surprise, but then Warriors Bucks 258 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: is number two. That kind of surprises me. Well, I 259 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: think people want to see Steph Curry. We want to 260 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: see what Milwaukee looks like now. And is that enough 261 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: to keep Jannis there? I heard from a basketball source 262 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: with the Miami Heat last night, and I said, what 263 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: are the possibilities of getting the Greek Freak? And my 264 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: source said, look, it's it's it's really in their minds. 265 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: This is a real possibility here. Like they they're going 266 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: in and looking at what does plan B and Bradley 267 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: Beal is Plan B, but they think that they're still 268 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: going to be in play for the Greek Freak. It 269 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: really hinges on how well they do this year. Does 270 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: the Greek Freak feel like this team can compete for 271 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: a championship? And that's why you're nervous in Milwaukee because 272 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: if if you're going to go back to the playoffs 273 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: and ball out early again, then I don't know if 274 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: the Greek Freak is going to go. This is where 275 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: I want to be. This was an extremely important offseason 276 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: for Milwaukee. I don't know if Drew Holliday changes how 277 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: good this team is. I still thought Chris Paul made 278 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: the most sense. He's an experienced player, he's a future 279 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, He's coming off a great year. He'll 280 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: give you toughness, leadership. I know he hasn't won anything, 281 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: but man, I would feel a whole lot more confident 282 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: with Chris Paul in there, even at his age, than 283 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: I would with anybody else. Drew Holliday is a good 284 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,119 Speaker 1: two way player, but Chris Paul can be a special 285 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: player when you need him to be. And I think 286 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: Milwaukee needed that in the postseason because they became very, 287 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: very predictable, and the Miami Heat knew exactly what to do. 288 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: They set up a wall and they basically were stopping 289 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: the penetration of the Greek Freak and they didn't let 290 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: him get transition baskets and that would be the big 291 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: concern here. But the Miami Heat think they're in play 292 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: for the Greek Freak. They really do. And if Bradley 293 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: Beale would become available, then they would be in, you know, 294 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: in the sweep stakes for Bradley Beale, which would be 295 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: interesting to add him. I thought Golden State was going 296 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: to go after Bradley Beale. I thought that that might be, 297 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, with Klay Thompson out, but Kelly Ubree is 298 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: who they went after, and uh, you know, it would 299 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: be easier to unload Kelly Ubrey when you know Thompson 300 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: comes back, you know, as opposed to Steph and Bradley 301 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Beale and Thompson in there, and Draymond even though that'd 302 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: be a fun line up there. But that's just some 303 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: of the things that I found out yesterday and last night, right, uh. 304 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: And I watched college basketball last night, or at least 305 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: something that sort of resembled that, and you and you 306 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: had these teams, you know, Michigan State, Duke, Kansas in Kentucky. 307 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: You know, these are the blue bloods, and I go, okay, 308 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: roll them out. Let's see what we got here. It 309 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: was not good basketball, not at all. Kansas Kentucky, yikes, 310 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: close game, not a good game. And then Michigan State 311 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: beat Duke. We'll talk to Pat forty forty was at 312 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: the Kansas Kentucky game. We'll talk to him about this 313 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 1: Ohio State situation as well. He'll join us coming up 314 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: on loan from Sports Illustrated. We'll get to your phone 315 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: calls as well. And I think that's it. Anything else 316 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: I need to mention here, Polly, Well, the Army Navy 317 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: situation has taken a turn. We could hold it, but wait, 318 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: what do you mean a turn for us? You know, 319 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: it's all about us. We would like to attend the 320 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: Army Navy football game. But seating is limited. Seating is limited. Why, 321 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's Army Navy. It's at Mikey Stadium 322 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: at West Point, Okay, but if I put all the 323 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: canets in there, it seems like there's room for two people, 324 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: me and you. I know, we've asked, and the official 325 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: response came in today. The people we usually work with 326 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: at Army said, we are talking to the higher ups 327 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: in quotes, and I don't know if that means like 328 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: a general, like a four star general or something. Yeah, 329 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: General Petreus or somebody. I mentioned that my dad was 330 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: in the Army that didn't get anywhere nothing, and don't 331 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: mention my dad was the man. I didn't, but I 332 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: mentioned that you've gone to Army games probably like nine 333 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: years on a row. And I went to the Air 334 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: Force Academy on a recruiting trip. Right. That may hurt 335 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: you did not bring your talents to Army. I was 336 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: not smart enough to get into West Point. My brother 337 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: got weight listed at West Point. Yeah, what a thrill? Yeah, 338 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, we were really excited. Like we didn't 339 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 1: have any moments like educational moments in my household. But 340 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: like when my brother you got ways waitlisted. Man, that's awesome. 341 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: What don't they make us do like fifty push ups 342 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: outside Bikey Stadium right before the game, just to make 343 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: sure we're worth fifty combined? You do forty ten. We 344 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: don't have trouble. Okay, So you have an update or 345 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: is that the update? That's the update that they're trying 346 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: to get tickets plural. We may be able to get 347 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: more than two, that's what I'm hearing from the higher ups. 348 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: More than two or none? Yes to can't they give 349 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: you general admission? Oh, don't make jokes. Don't make jokes. Well, 350 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: I'd like to ruin it for you guys that I 351 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: made it. I'd like to sit in a private area. Oh, 352 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: there's a kernel of truth and what we're gonna get 353 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: corporal punishment. Let's taken you already said private sargament. Let's 354 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: take a break. Pat forty will join us and we're 355 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: back after this. On The Dan Patrick Show, Mercedes Benz 356 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: has done it again. The Mercedes Benz van saw this thing. 357 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: You see those sprinter vans, those Mercedes vans, Oh good 358 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: for tail getting. Oh man, they are all tricked out. 359 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: We'd go cross country in this one. 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What's 391 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: the takeaway from the basketball that you saw last night? 392 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: They told us it was basketball. I remain unconvinced after 393 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: having been there. It was traumatic. I mean, it was 394 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: as bad as it gets. Kansas one shooting thirty percent. 395 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: Both these teams are not vintage versions of themselves. I 396 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: mean Kansas Kentucky usually or national championship contenders. Maybe one 397 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: or both of them will round into that form, Dan, 398 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: but they're a long way from that now, which is 399 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: actually part for the course for both of them, but 400 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: especially Kentucky at this time of year. But Kentucky hasn't 401 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: been one and two, which they are now since Billy 402 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: Gillespie was the coach, So this is the worst start 403 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: they've had under Caliperry. He doesn't have the horses that 404 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: he usually has. It doesn't appear, so his annual kind 405 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: of build from nothing to something is going to be 406 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: a little bit steeper and more difficult this season. Give 407 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: me three players that we should keep an eye on 408 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: in college basketball this year. Three players I think that 409 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: obviously Luca Garza at Iowa, who put up forty something 410 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: in their game last week. You know a lot of 411 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: people surprised he stayed in school. He's not an unbelievable athlete, 412 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: but boys, he's got skill and will. He's tough, he's strong, 413 00:22:55,359 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: he's relentless. I would say Jalen Suggs, freshman at Zaga. 414 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: I think zag is the best team, and he's the 415 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: highest recruited player they've had there and a little bit 416 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: off the radar. But Kay Cunningham another star freshman. He's 417 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State, which is not eligible for the postseason, 418 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: but he's really good and he's going to be a 419 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: very high draft pick. Does Duke have one of those guys, 420 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: and not really that's you know, you look at Duke 421 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: and you look at Kentucky and you don't see you 422 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: sure don't see Zion Williamson. You don't see Anthony Davis, 423 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: you don't see Carl Town's, you know, any of those 424 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: sort of guys. You see a lot of good players 425 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: who are highly recruited, but I don't think you see 426 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: somebody who is going to be a superstar freshman and 427 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: then a you know, top three pick for either team. 428 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's turn our attention to college football. You 429 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: have the Playoffs selection show Week two here. There weren't 430 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: any headlines until Kurk curb Street said the following. I 431 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: still think Michigan waves the white flag and potentially avoids 432 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: playing Ohio State next week. And then, David, they'll potentially 433 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: get a game on the nineteen. They could be sitting 434 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: there with six games and Michigan. Is that fair, David, 435 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: Michigan could opt out basically of that game and keep 436 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: Ohio State out of six games to qualify for the 437 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship. That doesn't make sense to me, but 438 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people wanted to see where 439 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: Ohio State would be. Your reaction to that pen was 440 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: WHOA Did I just hear that? I was watching it 441 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: in real time, and I was like, did Kirk Herb Street, 442 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: the former Ohio State quarterback, just say that the arch 443 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: rival is going to chicken out of playing one of 444 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: the biggest rivalry games in college football? Wow? And so 445 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: you know that that was my thought. I immediately felt, well, 446 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: there's a column I started writing. Especially RCE Davis followed 447 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: up with the comment or the double down on that, 448 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: and Kirk stuck with that line, basically saying that coaches 449 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: are telling him that schools are using COVID as an 450 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: excuse to avoid playing games they're going to lose or 451 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: be humiliated in. And then he said, I don't really 452 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: know about Michigan and they later apologized for that. But 453 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: what it says to me, Dan is everything about the 454 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: messy end of this season. Okay, there's a lot of 455 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: people that probably really don't want to play. There are 456 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: some teams that are probably using COVID as an excuse 457 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: not to play, so that's probably true. But that was 458 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: a pretty wild accusation and it underscores the amount of 459 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: suspicion and cynicism that we are going to be involved 460 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: in for the next two or three weeks because we 461 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: are dragging this season to the finish line and there's 462 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: a lot of players and a lot of teams that 463 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: really don't want to be there. What is Michigan status 464 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: as far as being able to play football the next 465 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: two weeks. Yeah, they paused in person activities Monday and Tuesday. 466 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: Don't know whether they'll be back on the field today Wednesday, 467 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: so they are TVD for this week. Still, We'll see, 468 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, if they can get to their game Saturday 469 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: against Maryland. Ohio State looks like they're going to play 470 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: after they missed last week. This is the kind of 471 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: the state of the Big Ten right now is very tenuous. 472 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: I mean, it's day to day about who's going to play. 473 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: And usually if you miss one week, it could be 474 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: a two week problem. You know. It looks like Oho 475 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: State may avoid that, But we will see with Michigan 476 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: or do they play this week and then obviously do 477 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: they play next week. But also, Patty, I just wonder 478 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: when we say, well, it's based on the eye test, 479 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: it's based off your resume. If Ohio State only plays 480 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: four or five games, I don't know how that playoffs. 481 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: Selection committee can honestly look at them and go, yep, 482 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: they're one of the four best teams in the country. 483 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: As much as we want to base this on, you know, 484 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: past the talent they have, who's the quarterback, they haven't 485 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: done anything to distinguish themselves as one of the four 486 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: best teams in the country when it's all said and done, right, No, 487 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing you'd be looking at, basically 488 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: a half a resume compared to some other schools that 489 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: have played literally twice as many games. You know, Brian 490 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: Kelly was pretty interesting a couple of games ago, made 491 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: a point when they got to eight he said, we 492 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: have played a big ten schedule. He made his point 493 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: pretty clear that you know that the different number of 494 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: games will be a major flash point, arguing point for 495 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: the committee and for fans everywhere. And Gary Barter of 496 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: the chair of the Selection committee, did say last night 497 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: that it's close for four between Ohio State and Texas 498 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: A and M, which is lost but has played more games. 499 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: So I think the committee's absolutely going to look at 500 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: that and that's going to be a down to the 501 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: wire discussion. I mean, if you're Ohio State, you really 502 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: need to play every possible game you can. I was 503 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: also wondering, could you see a scenario where Florida beach 504 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: Alabama and Clemson barely beach Notre Dame and they would 505 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: still all stay in the top four and they would 506 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: cancel out Ohio State. Yeah, oh, I think that. I 507 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: think if Florida beats Alabama that you would have a 508 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: pretty strong argument for two SEC teams and then absolutely 509 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: a fifth. Clemson, like Notre Dame, I think is really 510 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: close to being in right now. You know, all they've 511 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: got to do is loss. Even with a loss, as 512 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: long as they don't get dump trucked. You know, if 513 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: it's if it's a four touchdown loss and Trevor Lawrence 514 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: lights them up and you can say, oh that's the difference, Uh, 515 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: then that may may preclude them. But if it's if 516 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: it's a close game and they've beaten Clemson once and 517 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: lost to him once, I think they're they're pretty close 518 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: to being in. And I think Alabama same thing, as 519 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: long as if they could lose to Florida as long 520 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: as they did in fifty six to nothing, which it 521 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't be and I think probably still get in as well. 522 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Trask the Heisman, it's his to lose. Uh. Probably, boy. 523 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: You know me, as a Heisman voter, I generally tend 524 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: to wait until the last minute and I want to 525 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: see everything. But I mean, he's been great. Uh, he 526 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: is definitely the front runner. But you know, Zach Wilson 527 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: has been awfully good at BYU. He just doesn't quite 528 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: have the platform. I still think Trevor Lawrence is the 529 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: best player. Uh, justin fields is the running up against 530 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: the problem of enough reps, enough performances, enough stats. I 531 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: think there's still enough several people I want to look 532 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: at for the next couple of weeks before I decide. Yeah, 533 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm the same. I'm a Heisman voter as well. But 534 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: if you would have said to me two years ago, 535 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is going to leave Clemson and not have 536 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: a Heisman Trophy, yeah, shocking, really, you know what I mean? 537 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: And especially hasn't been hurt and the team hasn't lost. 538 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: You know, that's that's the kind of thing that it 539 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: is very unusual to be in that situation. I still 540 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: think he's going to get a lot of votes this year, 541 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: I really do. But do you think that that this 542 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: would be a Career Achievement Award for Trevor Lawrence. In 543 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: some people's eyes, it could be. It could be, you know. 544 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he's having a really good season. He just 545 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: he missed a month. He didn't there were two games 546 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: that he didn't play, and then Clemson didn't play for 547 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. He's I believe, ninth nationally and 548 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: pass efficiency, he's doing well. If just some other quarterbacks 549 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: have had more opportunities and done a lot with them. 550 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: Always great to talk to you, Pat, Safe travels back home. 551 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: We appreciate your time as all a pleasure. Dan, Thank you. 552 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: That's bad forty Sports Illustrated senior writer covering college basketball 553 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: in college football. Speaking of basketball, Brad in North Carolina, 554 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: Hey Brad, what do you have for me today? Hey? BP, 555 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: you were talking about the state of how poor the 556 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: basketball was yesterday. Something that is equally is awful to 557 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: the point and it's almost awesome is the call with 558 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: ESPN with Bill Walton. I want to know where I 559 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: can get some of what he's smoking. Well, just to 560 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: ask a Bill. Thank you, Brad. I've known Bill a 561 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: long time and Bill has never changed. There were moments 562 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: where he had some dips, He battled depression, he contemplated suicide. 563 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: But his approach is different. It's not for everybody. But 564 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: Bill is looking for fun. He's looking for the enjoyment. 565 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: He grew up in a basketball world that was based 566 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: off on wooden and running a perfect style of offense 567 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: and defense, playing the game the way it's meant to 568 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: be when you open up a textbook. Bill doesn't see 569 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: that very often anymore. We don't see that. But Bill 570 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: still tries to have fun during a game. And sometimes 571 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: the game is not very good, but Bill is and 572 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: Bill wants to be entertaining. I love him, love him dearly. 573 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: I've had great moments with him. I'm glad that he's healthy. 574 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: He's positive. And like I said, I hear people say 575 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: they either love him or they hate it with Bill, 576 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: But I know the person and I know where he's 577 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: coming from, so I enjoy it. It's just different. Yeah, mcclub. 578 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: I heard him go from former secretaries stay Dean Rusk 579 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: to Dan Pastor we need a quarterback to a half 580 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: hour like recitation about rhes Davids being awesome. He was 581 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: loose for even for him last night. It was great. Yeah, Yes, boy, 582 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: there is a breakaway play. And he was in the 583 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: middle of referencing Tolstoy, and he did and stopped to 584 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: acknowledge the breakaway play. And then I turned it back 585 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: on and he was discussing the art of glass blowing. 586 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: And I thought I was watching PBS covering the Duke game, 587 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, what's going on? And Tolstoy was 588 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: pretty good. He had a nice handle. Yeah you know that, Yeah, Tolstoy. 589 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: You know, he had a suspect jumper. But Tolstoy could 590 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: he could play a little bit. Yeah, mccle he was 591 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: on that great Russian team that beat up seventy two 592 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: and dangling Participles. I think he threw it to Alexander 593 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: bell Off. I think he threw the pass to bell 594 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: Off when he had the game winning shot. There. Yeah, 595 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: I enjoy it. I mean, you know there's times when 596 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: you go, Okay, I'm gonna sit and watch a game. 597 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: I watched Indiana and Providence the other night. And I 598 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: tried to watch Indiana and Providence the other night, and 599 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: I love watching basketball. I couldn't do it. You know, 600 00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm watching the Maui Invitational and and granted it's I know, 601 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: during these times it's not great basketball and they're just 602 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: getting started and it's tough. And sometimes the announcer you 603 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: tune in for a game, and Bill Walton is one 604 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: of those announcers, certainly in college basketball, you'll tune in. Now, 605 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: you may tune out, but you'll tune in. It sounds 606 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: like something Bill would. Does that sound like you tune 607 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: in and tune out or whatever? It is some grateful 608 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: dead reference. Yes, But there's something about these like high 609 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,479 Speaker 1: energy broadcasters and the missing crowd that aren't lining up. 610 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: You know where You've got a guy going nuts and 611 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: it's completely silent in there, and you're like, man, like 612 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: the energy is it's just not even the players aren't 613 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: that excited for the game. Well, I wonder how Vital 614 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: would sound like prime peak Vital in an arena with 615 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: no fans. Well, I think, well, I'm pretty sure he 616 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 1: did Kentucky Kansas last night. Um, and that wasn't Uh, 617 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: they were not on the same page. Okay, that is right. Yeah. 618 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: I was wondering if they, like the players say to 619 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: Dicky be Hey, can you quiet down over there? I 620 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: can't hear myself think out out here on the floor. Yeah, 621 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: Paul or does Dicky be go Apo and go No, 622 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: he's not capable of doing it. You did it, baby, 623 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: This awesome. Can't you can't do it. Can't do it? 624 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: Andy and Oregon awesome. Andy, Good morning, Good morning in 625 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: six nine, six nine three ten. All right, I've been 626 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: listening to you talk about the basketball, and first off, 627 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: I would like to thank you, being from Portland, for 628 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: your appreciation of the seventy seven Playzers, my favorite team. Incredible, 629 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: incredible team. And uh, if you look back at that, 630 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: I don't think Bob Gross gets an enough credit for 631 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: setting down Doctor Jay in the fourth quarter of that 632 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: game in sixth so you can look that back up. 633 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: But I just wanted him a shout out. Secondly, you 634 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: know I was one. I'd like to get your thoughts 635 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: on the negative or positive impact of our present day 636 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: in situation, on the demise of college basketball and subsequently 637 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: the pros. Well, I think it's hard to watch because 638 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: their fundamentals are not stressed anymore. And look, did I 639 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: want to have those drills over and over and over. No? 640 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: But after a while, you know, by proxy, subconsciously it 641 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: seeps in and you start to play better basketball, smarter basketball. 642 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: Doing the right thing, set the right pick, then you 643 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: roll cut off on the baseline, get a foot out 644 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: outside of the the in line. There. You know, just 645 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: small things that I hated, but fundamentals are so lost 646 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: because of AAU. And you watch a game, it's really 647 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: tough to watch. I watch, you know, a lot of 648 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: high school basketball whenever I can see that on you know, 649 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: direct TV where they have you know, one of these 650 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: games that can be a Sierra Canyon or somebody, and 651 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: I'll go, okay, I'll watch it. There there's an incredible 652 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: amount of skill, but there is very very little discipline, 653 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: very very little. Nobody boxes out. Like all the things 654 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: that you were taught to do, they do work, but 655 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: these players don't want to do that. Everything is a highlight. 656 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: They have some bad shooters out there, guys who should 657 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: never shoot. And I go back to LaMelo ball is 658 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: freshman year. I'm watching a playoff game and I thought 659 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: he had tremendous talent but had no discipline, no fundamentals 660 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: at all. But he was eating to watch. And here 661 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: he is the third pick overall in the draft. But 662 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: that to me is kind of the prototypical got a 663 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: lot of talent, just throw it up there, break people 664 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: down with your handle, do something fancy. Nothing's ever a routine. 665 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: Nothing they don't want it to be routine, and as 666 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: a result, it's bad basketball. And then you go to 667 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: college for one year, but you're not there for one year. 668 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 1: You're there for six months. Am I really going to listen? 669 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: How much am I going to listen? How much can 670 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: you teach me in six months? Because at that point 671 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm eighteen or nineteen years of age and I'm only 672 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: stopping in for one year before I try the NBA. 673 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: And then you get to the NBA. You used to 674 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: be a finished product in the NBA. Like you got there, 675 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: you were ready to play in the NBA. You have 676 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: kids who go to the NBA and they're still unfinished. 677 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: And that's why we have bad basketball sometimes. That's why 678 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: when we have good basketball, we go, wow, that was 679 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: great basketball. Well. It used to be you passed and 680 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: move without the ball, like we saw what Golden State 681 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 1: did well. Basketball used to be where you pass, you move, 682 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: you pass again, an extra pass here. And that's why 683 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: I go back to the Portland Trailblazers with Bill Walton 684 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: and doctor Jack Ramsey as the head coach. To me, 685 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: it was the finest performance of all around basketball. They 686 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: ran the ball, they played defense, they passed, they made 687 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: the extra pass. And Portland was not a team full 688 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: of stars. They had more Lucas and they had Bill Walton, 689 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: but they had Dave towards Zick and Larry Steele and 690 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: Bobby Gross, Lloyd Neil. They didn't have a roster full 691 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: of stars, but they knew how to play the game 692 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: and that's why it was such a joy to watch. 693 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: We'll take a break. More phone calls coming up after this, 694 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: and Johnny Manziel talks about getting paid in college. Thanks 695 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 696 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning until noon eastern 697 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you 698 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or 699 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. I think I'm 700 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 1: over hyping the Johnny Manziel interview that he did with 701 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: the y NK podcast and the former Heisman Trophy winner. 702 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 1: I think Johnny Manziel is only twenty seven years of age. 703 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: That sound about right, Paully, isn't that embarrassing? Yeah, there's 704 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: not even discussion of him playing football again or he 705 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: engaged by him. And I'll go back how many years 706 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: ago it was when he was going to Vegas, and 707 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: I remember saying, I said, Paully, if you can get 708 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel privately, I'd like to just tell him that 709 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: he's going to get to a point before he's thirty 710 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: years of age, nobody's gonna care about him. Yeah, Polly, 711 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: then you did have a couple talk back and forth 712 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: with them via text, and I've heard back and forth. 713 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: He would always tell us the right things, like when 714 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: we would have him on in twenty twelve and thirteen 715 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: and fourteen and fifteen, every time we get down the interview, 716 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: you would say, you know what he's really he sounds good, 717 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 1: and then you would say to yourself, but I feel 718 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: like I'm being played. Yeah, he's he's gonna be irrelevant. 719 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: And here he is, twenty seven years of age. Here's 720 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: Manzille on the y n K. You never know a podcast. 721 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys who get exploited, who and 722 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 1: who get fed up because they can't make money in college. 723 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: Because they can't make money in college, Dude, when I 724 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: started making money in college, Mike Evans used to ask 725 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: me if I could help him get his daughter diapers 726 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: and like things to go through. A seven hundred dollars 727 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: snipe in check a month doesn't cut it. I took 728 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: care of that. You take care of the boys, so 729 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't even need said bread. I mean, that's that was. 730 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: That was that was the thing. That was the thing 731 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: where I was like, Yo, I'm gonna go do what 732 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: I need to do. Right. People come up to you there, 733 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: comes up to you and says, yo, I got five 734 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for you to do something. I got twelve 735 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: ninety nine in my bank account. Do you think I'm 736 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: gonna say? And now we're the bread at least surprising 737 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: story probably of the day or the week or the 738 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: year that Johnny was getting money in college. I understand it. 739 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he's It happens a lot more than you 740 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 1: think it does. The question I always wondered is how 741 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: does it happen? Because it used to be boosters had 742 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get closer to the athletes, and it 743 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like that. It feels like the booster is 744 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: a little more removed now now it's through shoe company, 745 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: or could be through AAU coach or high school coach. Yeah, seton. 746 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel might have gotten one of the biggest hall 747 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: passes of a college career of all time, because not 748 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: only was it like his lifestyle and partying right, and 749 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: it was like, well, show me where it's affecting him 750 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: on the field. Until it's affecting him on the field, 751 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: I think he could do whatever he wants. And then 752 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: dude's flying all over the country. He's driving a Mercedes. 753 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: He's like doing all this stuff. And it's like, what 754 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: his parents got money? Why why would he take money. 755 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: He's already parents have money. He was given every possible 756 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: hall pass a quarterback could get. We love this story. 757 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: We didn't want Johnny taking off the field. He was fascinating. 758 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: I guess that you know, there are a lot of enablers, Yes, Bolly. 759 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: After his first year at A and M. One of 760 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: the things he's referencing is there was investigation in him 761 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: taking a bag full of cash, supposedly seventy five ten 762 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and there was video TMZ had it. The 763 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: investigation lasted most of the offseason going into his second 764 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: final year at A and M, and the result of 765 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: the investigation was he was suspended for one half of 766 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 1: the Rice game. The Rice game, and everyone said, well, 767 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: he didn't take it. He said, I didn't take it 768 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: and the end and see said we could find no evidence. 769 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: We can't find the bag of cash. Oh God. And 770 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: then you would just hear stories and no, no, unless 771 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: I had it, and I had it from a reliable source, 772 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: then you know I wasn't going with it. But man, 773 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: you would just hear these stories and you go. And 774 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: I've been doing this a long time, you know, going 775 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: back to guys in Kentucky getting basketball, you know, money 776 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: on the basketball team to somebody I knew who got Mercedes, 777 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: those those two seaters beautiful saying he's yeah, Pauly. It 778 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: should have tipped us off a little bit when Johnny 779 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: Manziel's touchdown celebration was I'm making fingers, I'm giving it 780 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: out to the fellas, so straight cash Homeye all right? 781 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: The final hour coming up, more phone calls as well, 782 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: maybe change around the poll question, and still looks like 783 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: we're having football this afternoon. One more item in the 784 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: second hour, and it's sleep number quality. Sleep more important 785 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: than ever as we head into the holiday season. Not 786 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: only is it a natural immunity booster, but also helps 787 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: with energy and recovery. 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