Speaker 1: And now we have this on slaughter fucking like Kanye
Speaker 1: himself is fucking great, just greatness. But diet Kanye, all
Speaker 1: the diet Kanye, that's just sucks. You feel me like
Speaker 1: Kanye is not as strong enough drink to have diet
Speaker 1: versions of it. Just that beverage itself is fucking awesome,
Speaker 1: because but all this diet Kanye, bro, it's it's not
Speaker 1: that fucking good. It's not that Paul. Are you telling
Speaker 1: me that you're not as impressed maybe as other people are,
Speaker 1: that Kanye was able to bring us the same Chicago
Speaker 1: that Eddie Winslow brought us five years earlier? Exactly? Okay,
Speaker 1: so now tell me what the funk had is that? Again?
Speaker 1: I have taken off and look, you don't you just
Speaker 1: how did you get the hat to? You don't know
Speaker 1: what had it is? I just saw it on the internet.
Speaker 1: I saw I was like, I could use another hat.
Speaker 1: And I just happen to see randomly like an ad
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, those are kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Has to look at their website and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: grab that one. So you're like an impost buyer. I'm
Speaker 1: not an impulse buyer, but sometimes if I see something
Speaker 1: that I know that I do like that, I that
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna probably see again by accident, and I'll
Speaker 1: grab it. But I'm the purchase like that today too.
Speaker 1: Once you get I bought Kanye Steam Player for two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. How's it working out for you so far?
Speaker 1: It hasn't came yet. It is, Oh, it's a hardware device.
Speaker 1: It has to be a hardware device. They asked me
Speaker 1: for my address, so I would imagine for sure it's
Speaker 1: a hardware device. And it was two hundred dollars, so
Speaker 1: I would hope it's a hardware device. It better be
Speaker 1: a hard I would never thought that. That's that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: So what I would like to imagine it like is
Speaker 1: it's like, um, like a beach peel mixed with a
Speaker 1: physical Alexa dot the echo dot. I think it's something
Speaker 1: like that. And the rumor is that it's called a
Speaker 1: steam player because you could play certain parts of the song,
Speaker 1: like you can ask for the high heights to be
Speaker 1: removed or the vocals to be removed, or the kicks
Speaker 1: to be removed. And if that's true, like that's gonna
Speaker 1: be dope at ship. But I just obviously Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is in my top five right now. I love you
Speaker 1: to death. I think he's I'm not on the genius
Speaker 1: train with everybody, but I think he's one of the
Speaker 1: most extremely brilliant, you know, talents for sure of my lifetime. Um.
Speaker 1: But the fact that he was able to sell me
Speaker 1: on it, right. I read his post and his post
Speaker 1: was talking about how artists only get twelve percent of
Speaker 1: the revenue in today's business, and I just thought that
Speaker 1: was ill. Right, I'm like, damn, that's true. And he
Speaker 1: figured out a way to where people who funk with
Speaker 1: him can have better access and there's another gadget. So
Speaker 1: I was like, fucking yeah, um no seilings g L
Speaker 1: my guy, Peter P. B Up in this sp is
Speaker 1: not um yeah, so and he he just has his
Speaker 1: way of doing this. I swear to God, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: be meaning so well, right, I think he means so well. Um.
Speaker 1: But I think what happens is America happens to what
Speaker 1: he does. And in America, the part of America that
Speaker 1: you love and the part of America hate, which is
Speaker 1: that extreme capitalist nature that I agree does drive innovation
Speaker 1: to some degree, which humanity should do a much better
Speaker 1: job of that. But you know, the the desire to
Speaker 1: earn drives innovation, right, So yeah, is one of the
Speaker 1: most innovative people I saw, you know, I've seen in
Speaker 1: my lifetime. And it would drive me crazy to believe
Speaker 1: that this is awful money. Like, and I think I'm
Speaker 1: coming to the conclusion like I always knew Jay was
Speaker 1: a capitalist as a drug do for me any d
Speaker 1: boy as a capitalist? Uh? You know, I even found
Speaker 1: myself and and that's why I think I told you
Speaker 1: I regretted it. I found myself being a capitalist, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and then talking myself out of
Speaker 1: what actually was happening where I was like, oh well,
Speaker 1: my excuse for daling drugs would always be like, well
Speaker 1: they're gonna buy it from somebody, it might as well
Speaker 1: be me, right, And that's the baseline generic. I used
Speaker 1: to pride myself and having top quality drugs. Like when
Speaker 1: I would sell PCP, I wouldn't cut with brake fluid
Speaker 1: or or from out to high you know, um embombing fluid.
Speaker 1: I would cut with and drogs and all ether what
Speaker 1: we call andy. Um. If I sold dope, it was
Speaker 1: gonna be top quality dope. I wasn't overcutting the dope,
Speaker 1: so I prided myself and having the best quality product.
Speaker 1: So that was my mid level excuse for the capitalism.
Speaker 1: My my top level, advanced excuse was they were making
Speaker 1: a choice, right because I don't do any drugs. I
Speaker 1: don't drink coffee, alcohol, smoked marijuana. I always felt people
Speaker 1: were making a choice, just like I made a choice
Speaker 1: not to do it. And obviously that's horribly wrong, But
Speaker 1: at that time, you know, sixteen, fifteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
Speaker 1: two year old glasses, twenty three year old glasses didn't
Speaker 1: know better because I didn't partaket, so I don't I
Speaker 1: didn't understand chemical addiction and how it worked. I realized
Speaker 1: it around twenty four when a lady who was pregnant
Speaker 1: came to buy some drugs and my silly ass sold
Speaker 1: them tour But the whole rest of the afternoon I thought, like,
Speaker 1: there's no way somebody who's a sober mind, like conscious,
Speaker 1: like like a present whatever, harmed the child. So that
Speaker 1: kind of broke that whole lame excuse I was making
Speaker 1: to myself. But in Kanye's case, right with the stem
Speaker 1: player being for two hundred dollars, that just seemed like
Speaker 1: so much, you know, the gals out of your fan
Speaker 1: for music, but hopefully the stem player makes it a
Speaker 1: much different and greater experience. And I'm one of those
Speaker 1: guys that support pretty much everything he does because he
Speaker 1: pushes the envelope for me. I heard he was streaming
Speaker 1: his movie like in the movie theater, like his album
Speaker 1: in the movie theater. You just went to the movie
Speaker 1: theater and watched it at the movie theater. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate him making efforts to game, you know back, especially
Speaker 1: his situation where, just like mine, you own your music,
Speaker 1: but you know you own your music now when not
Speaker 1: as valuable because you don't have a label putting you know,
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars in marketing into it. Yet you're still
Speaker 1: selling reasonable minding units. You know it's probably going to
Speaker 1: go to platinum, yet you're not really making the revenue
Speaker 1: from going go to platinum because you know, the streaming
Speaker 1: apps has changed the game. So I appreciate you for
Speaker 1: pushing through and trying to figure out how to get
Speaker 1: the revenue and economics back, because that's something we should
Speaker 1: all be trying to do as artists. Yeah, there's there's
Speaker 1: um are glaring, diminishing returns curve, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: if the twelve percent number is real for everybody, and
Speaker 1: it's not going to be real for everybody, it's approximate.
Speaker 1: It depends. It might be twelve percent for him, it
Speaker 1: might be a different percent for somebody else. For me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean for me, it's going to be in the
Speaker 1: zero percent. But zero times zero equal zero anyway, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter. But like you know, twelve percent
Speaker 1: is essentially an eighth, you know, one of rate. So
Speaker 1: the question then becomes, can you, by yourself do the
Speaker 1: volume that you otherwise that they could propel you to do,
Speaker 1: you know, with with with that type of lever economically,
Speaker 1: he'll earn more then streaming apps will pay him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he will because he can go platinum by himself. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna go platinum or whatever. Streaming
Speaker 1: he can put a lot of numbers down by himself.
Speaker 1: But yeah, with a stamp player that's two hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna sell a million of old. That's just
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. It's likely. I mean, that would be great,
Speaker 1: that that would be unbelievable that I don't think Park
Speaker 1: go right, I think if you a sales you know,
Speaker 1: a hundred two hundred thousand stamp players, you know, you
Speaker 1: bring in uh four million bucks, that's more, you know
Speaker 1: than the streaming service. Actually forty million bucks. That's more
Speaker 1: than the streaming site is gonna pay him in the
Speaker 1: first place. He was he wasn't gonna get forty million
Speaker 1: out of the streaming sites. But again, you sacrifice and
Speaker 1: what what what I think it happened is he'll sell
Speaker 1: a hundred to two hundred thousand staying players of his
Speaker 1: new album and maybe within a month or two the
Speaker 1: music will find itself on the streaming app so he'll
Speaker 1: get the back end of it. But I appreciate him
Speaker 1: always pushing through to try to take back more of
Speaker 1: his power. And I was talking to Charlotte Magne about
Speaker 1: it earlier. While I don't think it benefits everybody in
Speaker 1: the music business as far as like his particular move,
Speaker 1: I think he inspires people to try and figure out,
Speaker 1: you know, he gives you a blueprint kind of like
Speaker 1: you're watching it live happened where it's like, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: not just in this position to where I have to
Speaker 1: take the ship from you know, the streaming apps. If
Speaker 1: you don't like what's going on there. What's funny to
Speaker 1: me is right is on? Uh so for Kaye should
Speaker 1: have never married that bit right the latest song I
Speaker 1: had dropped right, A lot of companies didn't really want
Speaker 1: to show me love on it. They was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, gee, because you know Kanye could take it wrong.
Speaker 1: You know that's YouTube that Spotify, Apple, you know title
Speaker 1: even lit. It was like, I don't know, it's Stem
Speaker 1: going to carry the song? Huh is Stem going to
Speaker 1: carry the song if Kanye has something to do with it?
Speaker 1: I bet you we would. Kanye wouldn't stifle who I
Speaker 1: am as a theater because I'm sure you could recognize
Speaker 1: it it's about must die or anything else I do.
Speaker 1: My brilliance come from things that they've done. So I
Speaker 1: don't think for two seconds he wouldn't carry it if
Speaker 1: it was a possibility, No way he would. Car for
Speaker 1: Corporate didn't carry your song because they were concerned about Kanye,
Speaker 1: and then Kanye Streamer carried the song itself carried the song.
Speaker 1: But there are were there some radio stations or something
Speaker 1: that we're kind of like a little bit like I
Speaker 1: don't want to bad mess up the relationship. No, Like,
Speaker 1: I think they were worried that Kanye would feel some
Speaker 1: kind of way if they actually put promotion behind the song. Okay,
Speaker 1: So they didn't want to give it playlisting or what
Speaker 1: you call editorial opportunities. Um, they didn't want to put
Speaker 1: it too far out there, and they felt Kanye wouldn't
Speaker 1: you know, that would get negative lashbacks. And it's funny,
Speaker 1: the whole time, he has been preparing to cut them
Speaker 1: out of his music. So fu great. Well, I'm like,
Speaker 1: dog like, hip hop is in such a weird place,
Speaker 1: And as much as I love Kanye, I blame Kanye
Speaker 1: because we were at a time now where everything is
Speaker 1: entirely too sensitive and it's too worried and oh, you know,
Speaker 1: this person may not like this, so I don't want
Speaker 1: to get behind this person, or this record is too edgy.
Speaker 1: Like we're in hip hop and niggas are telling me
Speaker 1: that my song Kanye should have never married that bitch
Speaker 1: is too edgy, and I'm like, damn, what if these
Speaker 1: people were in charge hip hop as a century. It's
Speaker 1: not the wild Western that used to be. And I'm
Speaker 1: saying because it ain't hip hop at all at all anymore.
Speaker 1: It's like really mainstream rap where everybody and it's weird
Speaker 1: because everybody wants to act like they're holding hand singing Kumbaya,
Speaker 1: but really all these chicken shit niggas is talking shit
Speaker 1: about each other behind their back. And the only difference
Speaker 1: with me is I'm such like a outlier from another
Speaker 1: time to a degree that I'm just the last of
Speaker 1: one of those niggas. That's like, Yo, this is what
Speaker 1: it is in front of everybody. I gotta do the
Speaker 1: Pemps remix real quick. These ain't no hip hop records,
Speaker 1: these corporate rap tunes. It's definitely corporate rap son and
Speaker 1: it really is that serious, like where it like the
Speaker 1: most you know where I feel so much relief in
Speaker 1: today's space of hip hop. Right is right? So Kanye
Speaker 1: gives me that like he's bucking. He's still bucking. He's
Speaker 1: a grown ass father right in a in a multi
Speaker 1: millionaire I mean old times over, and he's still bucking.
Speaker 1: He's still trying to buck the system. Yeah, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cool, but we're gonna do this, you know what,
Speaker 1: funck Nike, We're gonna do this, like like that is
Speaker 1: the part I am glad that he's here because you
Speaker 1: know his spirit and this ship is so important because
Speaker 1: he still represents a level of hip hop, a spirit
Speaker 1: of of of you know, fighting the system, fighting the power,
Speaker 1: you know, bucking. But what relieved me the other day,
Speaker 1: right is I'm watching the Super Bowl halftime show right
Speaker 1: with Dre with Doc Snooper, And so seeing Snoop on
Speaker 1: TV right with this blue rag outfit is just great. Right,
Speaker 1: this is great tossing up to see and giving up
Speaker 1: his rap. But there's a part and I noticed they
Speaker 1: didn't cuss, right, And I'm like, they're worried about slang,
Speaker 1: but they're selling beer, right, But it was a part
Speaker 1: where Dray says, still not loving police. And I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie to you, like I've talked to j a
Speaker 1: few times, you know over the years. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And sometimes I always wonder, like, man, is
Speaker 1: that sick ass nigger from compt is still in there?
Speaker 1: You know that that rebellious he was, He just kind
Speaker 1: of in the in the group. Not because if you yes,
Speaker 1: you have to be there. Some of that has to
Speaker 1: be his attitude, like he there, There have to there
Speaker 1: has to be an attitude in there, like Dr Dre,
Speaker 1: Is it a fair question for me to ask, giving
Speaker 1: his personality across the tapestry of the other members. I mean,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I think easy Ease personality was
Speaker 1: a lot more looming than everyone else's over it. But
Speaker 1: I still think all of them niggas had attitudes. And
Speaker 1: for Dre to be closing in on sixty and that
Speaker 1: line comes up, still not loving Police and he said it,
Speaker 1: I was like, nigger is still in there? And he
Speaker 1: met about two back and I'm like, ah, man, this
Speaker 1: nigga wrote police in nine seven, and he worried about
Speaker 1: me telling the story while I'm not saying nobody. So
Speaker 1: it made me question, like, damn is that is that?
Speaker 1: Is that that young nigga with an attitude still in there?
Speaker 1: And when he was on that stage at Super Bowl
Speaker 1: he said still not loving Police. I was like that ship,
Speaker 1: Like my heart would have been fractured if he didn't
Speaker 1: say it. So when he said it, it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like this ship ain't fell on deaf fears, Like like
Speaker 1: I still imagined Dres and making like the poonies come
Speaker 1: to his door. He trying to be cool, but really
Speaker 1: he wanted to shut the door in the face, Well,
Speaker 1: that did happen? Like what two years ago? A year ago,
Speaker 1: some weird white guy called the police and they showed
Speaker 1: up at his house and he was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know this guy's talking about. They're like, just went back
Speaker 1: to the station. That's what I appreciate about. Even with
Speaker 1: this stamn ship, Like is it most likely gonna be
Speaker 1: worth two hundred dollars? I don't know what's worth two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars these days, very few things. Um, but I'll
Speaker 1: pay for that. I'll pay for him still bucking the system.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm paying for. I'm paying for him sucking
Speaker 1: the system. I don't known fun what that stamp player do.
Speaker 1: Here's a go funding contributions. What you made? Huh you
Speaker 1: made a go fund to make contribution? Yeah, I ain't
Speaker 1: chipped them, just as long as Canadians don't keep your money.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no no. When you buck the system
Speaker 1: for me, I gotta pay you if you if you
Speaker 1: go buck, I'm gonna pay you. That's all. That's all
Speaker 1: I asked from hip hop in modern time. Buck dog
Speaker 1: fuck you let me kick. I don't just getting this
Speaker 1: ship and try to get it drinking cold and and
Speaker 1: all that ship is cool and that mainstream rap. No,
Speaker 1: no disrespect to them, brothers, but feel me like that
Speaker 1: ship ain't bucking and nothing. They weren't top ten several
Speaker 1: episodes ago. Huh, they didn't make my top ten several
Speaker 1: episodes ago. I'm just saying that ship too nice. That's
Speaker 1: why I wasn't in my top ten. That's why I
Speaker 1: pay for their music. You gotta buck for me, you
Speaker 1: gotta buck the system. And so for him to constantly
Speaker 1: buck the system, that's what I paid for. That's what
Speaker 1: it was worth. So do I feel like I got beat? Hell? No,
Speaker 1: it It's what makes hip hop great. That's what it's
Speaker 1: all about. Yeah, I'm not that at the vetter he
Speaker 1: can pull it off. I mean, even if it if
Speaker 1: it's a hardware advice, I mean, it never even crossed
Speaker 1: my mind that that could that that could even have.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a digital portal, like like stream yark,
Speaker 1: you know, like what we're on. You know, I thought
Speaker 1: would be something like that, um an app that could
Speaker 1: cost a fortune in r indeed to create or to purchase,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm sure you would figure out
Speaker 1: a way to create the right value for it. I
Speaker 1: don't think for two seconds it's not gonna be what
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. Yeah, but but he might need
Speaker 1: to sell an awful lot. Probably not. It's probably made
Speaker 1: somewhere in Asia by somebody getting paid thirteen cents an hour. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where it's made. I'm talking about it when where
Speaker 1: it was created the technology, and they was paying thirteen
Speaker 1: Since an hour or two might have cost eighteen cents
Speaker 1: to build, it always is eighteen cents to build, to build, yeah,
Speaker 1: to to recreate, not to create, to create, not to create. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. If there was, trust me, i'd i'd be
Speaker 1: doing that right now as we speak. I can't even
Speaker 1: get a a decentralized app done to my specifications for
Speaker 1: under twenty case. Yeah, but that's because again, right what
Speaker 1: you do is limited. That's limited. That doesn't even exist
Speaker 1: yet we know about it. Maybe maybe he just stumbled
Speaker 1: upon some guy had this thing. Hey, I got this
Speaker 1: cool thing and nobody wants it. He was like, I'll
Speaker 1: grab it. Maybe he was ready made, and I don't
Speaker 1: think he. I think they came to and he made
Speaker 1: a deal, some kind of special deal with him. They
Speaker 1: probably came to M was like, yeah, man, we got this. Well,
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then he's really I don't need
Speaker 1: it unless they gave him a bunch of money up front.
Speaker 1: And Yeah, the thing about Yeah is that is a
Speaker 1: corporate deal. It's different, a different corporate That's my point.
Speaker 1: Is always gonna be some corporate thing, That's what I say,
Speaker 1: even when Yeah is trying not to, he's gonna do
Speaker 1: something that's super corporate. Eve, Yeah, super capitalistic. It's always
Speaker 1: gonna be that. Like he wanted to make these shoes
Speaker 1: that were like fair price and they weren't that much material,
Speaker 1: yet they end up costing more than every fucking pair
Speaker 1: of tennis shoes. He's he's the kind of guy who's
Speaker 1: gonna like, oh man, there's hand full characters like this
Speaker 1: stuff thinking of it, like various comedy movies over the years.
Speaker 1: But he's like the kind of guy who, like, I'm
Speaker 1: a rebel, all repel right now, I don't go seventy
Speaker 1: six and sixty five watching me. Like, to some degree,
Speaker 1: I guess that's not He's not gonna get too far
Speaker 1: like called George Bush a bitch, Like I can see
Speaker 1: if he was gonna get on TV, and like George
Speaker 1: Bush is a bitch ass nigger. Like, no, he's going
Speaker 1: to like, he's going to give you the obvious truth
Speaker 1: that nobody else is said. George Bush doesn't like black people.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's Kanye's version of hip hop. Glasses Malone
Speaker 1: version of hip hop is, man, fuck George Bush, pitch
Speaker 1: ass nigger. Yeah, that's like a hundred and sixty five
Speaker 1: three Yeah. Me calling George Bush a bitch ass nigger
Speaker 1: on television is like a hundred and fifty miles per hour.
Speaker 1: But that's the kind of hip hop I mate, But
Speaker 1: I think, and that's what I said, Like, I like,
Speaker 1: just like I'm grateful for Kanye's contribution to hip hop,
Speaker 1: I also loathed as well, because I know he's the
Speaker 1: reason why this hundred and fifty miles people think I'm crazy,
Speaker 1: even though hip hop came from doing a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty miles in in in the sixty five mile Prower Freeway,
Speaker 1: you know, on that lane, that's where it came from.
Speaker 1: But the standards have been lowered to where if Kendrick
Speaker 1: Lamar gets on the song, he's like, yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to compete and be better than all of the rappers
Speaker 1: of today's time. It's the end of the world, and
Speaker 1: they all don't want to mess with him no more
Speaker 1: and be his friend because they're not used to that
Speaker 1: type of someone being that apparent and competitive. This is
Speaker 1: the area of fifth place trophies for sure. I mean,
Speaker 1: Kanye is the rapper of you see, he's a child
Speaker 1: of people with retire pensions. You know, his his his his,
Speaker 1: the pensions rapper, I would say, now you mean or
Speaker 1: overall overall the funniest it bro is right. Kanye's album, right,
Speaker 1: the first album, Like when I first heard Kanye, I
Speaker 1: just understood it was great music. I never looked at
Speaker 1: it as a representation of like real hip hop life,
Speaker 1: like not hip hop life, because hip hop, the way
Speaker 1: I've took it in is very much street urban culture, right,
Speaker 1: very much an urban corner street thing. Right. So, like
Speaker 1: the depth of kanye struggle on the first album was
Speaker 1: him dropping out of college, right and getting accused of
Speaker 1: stealing pants by his boss. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: was listening to my first album, and my first album
Speaker 1: is uh, I'm talking about facing life in prison and
Speaker 1: doing facing ten years and his is like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: almost called me stealing pants. My boss thought I was
Speaker 1: still in pants and he was gonna fire me, and
Speaker 1: I was like, huh. So I always felt it was
Speaker 1: like seventy miles per hour in the city five for
Speaker 1: hour Lane. So when it first came out, I was
Speaker 1: always just listening to the music. I didn't really connect
Speaker 1: with the struggle of Kanye West. It was like, that's
Speaker 1: a joke to me. But I thought he was great
Speaker 1: at sampling. I thought he placed words really well. I
Speaker 1: thought he carried melody well, he used all the voices perfectly.
Speaker 1: He might have a bit too many skits on the
Speaker 1: first record, but it was as great as it could so.
Speaker 1: But in two thousand and four, that was cool, right
Speaker 1: because it was like, all, like I had fifty cents
Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, right, so I still had
Speaker 1: this element of somebody surviving, you know, the trauma and
Speaker 1: and representing the people that don't have a voice. Where
Speaker 1: you have a fifty cent and then Yeake comes. It
Speaker 1: was cool balanced. But fast forward in the two thousand
Speaker 1: and twenty two and it's like Drake J. Cole, Uh, Kanye,
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, this ain't scary at all, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I had one time I went uh for like
Speaker 1: a semester at Orange Coast College Junior College down in Coasta, Mesa.
Speaker 1: And I took this jazz history class and that was
Speaker 1: one of the coolest classes I've ever taken. And it
Speaker 1: was actually taught by um John Coltrane's bass player Art Davis.
Speaker 1: And the guy's like a super savant. He's like one
Speaker 1: of the most renowned jazz bass players of all time.
Speaker 1: He was telling his life story like one day, like
Speaker 1: kind of in passing. He was like, you know, jazz
Speaker 1: came from kind of like from the mud, you know,
Speaker 1: like you could say it starts to just people say
Speaker 1: it started in the order, so some people say it
Speaker 1: started in New York or whatever it started was it
Speaker 1: was it was the people's creation off of a blank slate.
Speaker 1: It wasn't something you could learn. It was something that
Speaker 1: you just had to make. And he he said, he
Speaker 1: was already in the industry and doing well and got
Speaker 1: offered to go to Juilliard School of Music, and everybody
Speaker 1: was trying to come up with a new sound, learn
Speaker 1: being or creative pushed the albums I'm gonna go to Jewelrard,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn more about music, and I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: back and I'm gonna have an even more unique sound
Speaker 1: or whatever. And he said one of the guys that
Speaker 1: he recorded with was like, when you go to Juilliard,
Speaker 1: they're gonna teach you structure. They're gonna teach you how
Speaker 1: not to be creative. They're gonna teach you how to
Speaker 1: do what other people tell you to do. Jazz is
Speaker 1: all about doing what nobody else has ever done, so
Speaker 1: don't lose that. And he never lost it. And he
Speaker 1: was a great I mean, he was on the Love
Speaker 1: Supreme album that John Coltrane did after the Facts People,
Speaker 1: so he stayed great. But Kaye always to me felt
Speaker 1: like the Juilliard School of Music's hip hop to some
Speaker 1: degree a little bit a savant like talent creative wise,
Speaker 1: but it seemed like he like learned how to be
Speaker 1: that more than he just kind of to do it
Speaker 1: in a small sense. You know what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: like the spirit of it. I've had this for years,
Speaker 1: Like this is not obviously Webster's idea of the dictionary,
Speaker 1: But the way I see genius and brilliance is different.
Speaker 1: Like I see genius as this revolutionary, rarely understood thing
Speaker 1: happening in real time right, Mozart probably wasn't selling out
Speaker 1: all the concerts and ship like you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a very unique and pretty much always under appreciated thing. Um,
Speaker 1: I look at Kanye West as extremely brilliant. Kanye West
Speaker 1: is the best at taking things that's existed and making
Speaker 1: them more efficient for whatever is going on at that time.
Speaker 1: Like he could take three or four things and put
Speaker 1: them together and make something perfect for today's time. And
Speaker 1: to me, that's more of a sign of brilliance right
Speaker 1: than genius. But again, that's just how I see it.
Speaker 1: So I guess I'm ever had to judge Kanye like, oh,
Speaker 1: is he a genius versus he's absolutely brilliant. You know,
Speaker 1: he knows how to put all this ship together and
Speaker 1: it's not just natural. I agree, Like he's very schooled
Speaker 1: at what we do. You could tell he studied everything
Speaker 1: that's going on. And really, you know, there's the art
Speaker 1: of there's the art of hip hop, and then there's
Speaker 1: the science of music. Excuse me, the science of records.
Speaker 1: The art of hip hop and the science of records. Right,
Speaker 1: records are very scientific, like making a jingle for a commercial,
Speaker 1: you know, the Jolly Green Giants, so that's the thing.
Speaker 1: So Kanye in two thousand four was fantastic for me
Speaker 1: because you know, I have so much of the culture right,
Speaker 1: so much stuff to listen to. I can listen to
Speaker 1: the streets in New York with I can listen to
Speaker 1: the streets of I can listen to the streets of
Speaker 1: a Hand with t I, I could listen to the
Speaker 1: streets of l A. Obviously with everybody. For the most part,
Speaker 1: it Kanye provided something with such a scientific measure that
Speaker 1: it made it enjoyable for me. It didn't have to
Speaker 1: be you know what hip hop was culturally like where
Speaker 1: it was like from this level of no poverty in
Speaker 1: this street, edge and edge to it, right, it didn't
Speaker 1: need an edge to it. It could just be actually
Speaker 1: really well done and good and jam and that's what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was what college drop out. But like I said,
Speaker 1: fast forward in two thousand twenty two because the game
Speaker 1: started to shape that way. Now that ship is fucking
Speaker 1: annoying as fuck. But ya still not yea. But all
Speaker 1: his offsprings, like the depth the depth of his offsprings
Speaker 1: is just boring in Lane to me, Like it's like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like again, we're in the time,
Speaker 1: Like I said, we're in a time where they're calling
Speaker 1: skater closed streetwear. Like I was having a conversation with
Speaker 1: my partner Cast, and Cast was trying to tell me.
Speaker 1: He was like, well, you know, there's no real definition
Speaker 1: of a street nigga or a real nigga. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's not true. Like a street nigga was a criminal
Speaker 1: from our element right, A gang a gangster is a
Speaker 1: group of niggas, a group of street niggas that aligned
Speaker 1: themselves together. A street nigga is somebody willing to commit
Speaker 1: a crime to advance their agenda. Yes, streets not just asphalt.
Speaker 1: And and what happened is mainstream and even and even
Speaker 1: the successful upper scale of Black people got ahold of
Speaker 1: those words and made real nigga anybody that's doing something
Speaker 1: that's honest or like, a real nigga is somebody who
Speaker 1: take care of their kids. It's a real father, a
Speaker 1: real nigga. Somebody who gonna put in the eight hours
Speaker 1: of work. No, that's a real good employee. These terms have,
Speaker 1: you know, representation. The reason that people created the term
Speaker 1: real nigga and all these different concepts is they didn't
Speaker 1: have positive reinforcements for themselves to encourage them of trying
Speaker 1: to overcome what they was going through. So then they
Speaker 1: started making these dope terminologies that became great to listen
Speaker 1: to what I'm saying, and it made people feel proud
Speaker 1: of their circumstances. It wasn't for feeling doctor John Thompson
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, did a surgery today, real nigga
Speaker 1: ship And I do think yea is a part of
Speaker 1: that transition and end. You know that era of where
Speaker 1: now you have Drake talking about he's sliding on enemies
Speaker 1: and he hit somebody's block up and they wasn't outside,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, this is cool, This Nick
Speaker 1: is not hitting nobody's block. Brother, this nigga, don't you
Speaker 1: need pe would need a fucking you need to blockings
Speaker 1: with a jackhammer because there's a pothole that needs to
Speaker 1: be corrected. But I'm just saying it out. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying like, now we're in that era and again it
Speaker 1: started off with a rapper who's the depth of his
Speaker 1: struggle was like his job accusing him, his manager accusing
Speaker 1: him was still in pants. Well, let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: Like the way I kind of see Kanye, and you
Speaker 1: can see it kind of in the in just Chicago
Speaker 1: is in nutshell. You think Chicago hip hop, Chicago rap.
Speaker 1: There's even songs where are Kelly has that sounds like
Speaker 1: there's a certain Chicago sound, like the Twisted Door Didos
Speaker 1: guys like literally like there's a sound there. You know
Speaker 1: that sounds like Chicago doesn't have that. Kanye is the
Speaker 1: first artist of hip hop two point oh who grew
Speaker 1: up listening to hip hop and other people grew up
Speaker 1: listening to something else and made hip hop. And he
Speaker 1: grew up listening to hip hop and made his music.
Speaker 1: You Feel Me and Drake's another two points I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I can relate, I could relate. I think that's part
Speaker 1: true in part not true. I agree in the sense
Speaker 1: that Kanye is definitely part of that generation who grew
Speaker 1: up influenced to rapp by other rappers versus snooping them.
Speaker 1: They only had a handful of rappers. But really his
Speaker 1: influences Ron Banks or I mean somebody like that from
Speaker 1: the Dramatics. But I do think Kanye has a very
Speaker 1: Chicago sound. I mean, I think early on in his
Speaker 1: career you heard him doing what he needed to do
Speaker 1: like what I call laying the ball up, where you
Speaker 1: hear the music and you just lay it up, you
Speaker 1: know what it takes to get this ship through, and
Speaker 1: he get it like that. But I think it's Kanye
Speaker 1: started going. You start hearing him employ the melodies a
Speaker 1: lot more, start hearing more to R and B into
Speaker 1: his music, and I think it really all the Chicago
Speaker 1: came out of him. But again back to the point
Speaker 1: of hip hop right where it's like where it's like
Speaker 1: it's supposed to represent a community of people that doesn't
Speaker 1: have representation. And I don't think Kanye is like the
Speaker 1: voice of that. I think there's a lot of Kanye's
Speaker 1: that's well represented throughout you know, the last fifty years,
Speaker 1: that version of black people in America. M you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, That version is on television like before
Speaker 1: they would show the character, like the character that is
Speaker 1: hip hop is mad Dog from Good Times. There's only
Speaker 1: one or two episodes of mad Dog from Good Times.
Speaker 1: You know what. J J joins his gang and then
Speaker 1: j J just becomes a buster and don't want to
Speaker 1: get out, and then Mad Dog shoot j J in
Speaker 1: front of his daddy, and then you get to hear
Speaker 1: only this much of Mad Dog story where he's talking
Speaker 1: about his father abandoning him and him making sure that
Speaker 1: he don't need for nothing else. So that was the
Speaker 1: depth of our representation. You know that when you come
Speaker 1: from this street life, you know, outside of today, it
Speaker 1: was a blaxploitation film like The Mac, and that was
Speaker 1: not our life. 's life has been represented pretty well.
Speaker 1: That type of Black American person is represented Kanye. White
Speaker 1: women fear me that that understands the struggle, but you know, again,
Speaker 1: it's just different. I don't I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's underrepresented. He and now we have this on
Speaker 1: slaughter fucking like Kanye himself is fucking great, just greatness.
Speaker 1: But diet Kanye, all the diet Kanye, that's just sucks.
Speaker 1: You feel me like Kanye is not as strong enough
Speaker 1: drink to have diet versions of it. Just that beverage
Speaker 1: itself is fucking awesome, because but all this diet Kanye, bro,
Speaker 1: it's not that fucking good. It's not that good. Paul,
Speaker 1: Are you telling me that you're not as impressed, maybe
Speaker 1: as other people are, that Kanye was able to bring
Speaker 1: us the same Chicago that Eddie Winslow brought us five
Speaker 1: years earlier, exactly, fucking Eddie Winslow. Here's the Eddie Winslow
Speaker 1: of Chicago hip hop, and then he because no, he's
Speaker 1: fucking Eddie Winslow like that character has always been represented
Speaker 1: in mainstream America for thirty years before Kanye existed. There
Speaker 1: is no like Mad Dog got three minutes of camera time.
Speaker 1: I've watched twenty years of Eddie Winslow. Yeah that was
Speaker 1: just one version. It was all it was. Nigga Willis
Speaker 1: was fucking Eddie Winslow. Fucking Kanye's Willis film me like fun,
Speaker 1: I've seen it and it's dope because Kanye is so
Speaker 1: scientifically great at it. He's so correct, and he here
Speaker 1: Stefan or cow No, no, no, he's Eddie Winslow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yes he is. But that but that's my point where
Speaker 1: I feel like the representation right, it's over. It's been represented,
Speaker 1: and that's not what hip hop gave a voice to
Speaker 1: the people you didn't know existed. You didn't see it
Speaker 1: ll COOJ before you saw LLL COUJ. You didn't see
Speaker 1: a Snoop Dog. You know, Rocket was in colors for
Speaker 1: a grand total of ten minutes Rockets shot four people
Speaker 1: in his ten minutes on on cameraton. You can't be
Speaker 1: mad at the guy for being efficient. I'm not mad.
Speaker 1: I think it's great. But I'm saying that's what made
Speaker 1: Snoop so hip hop because you got to see Rocket, right,
Speaker 1: A full version of Colors with Rocket as the lead character.
Speaker 1: That's what Snoop Dog represents. So as far as Yea,
Speaker 1: I love you because I think he's one of the
Speaker 1: greatest scientists are culture has ever had when it comes
Speaker 1: to hip hop. But again, the diet Kanye's should just
Speaker 1: fuck this ship up because now it's swamped where it's
Speaker 1: just fucking guet Kanye ever, and you know, Kanye is
Speaker 1: already like Hawaiian punch bro. Like hip hop used to
Speaker 1: have pepsi and coke and spriting seven and seven up
Speaker 1: ship that would burn your throat when you would drink it,
Speaker 1: but it'd be so sweet and you're like, Yo, this
Speaker 1: is flavor. And then this nigga came and he's like
Speaker 1: Ticky Punch and tick Punch is good, feel me, But
Speaker 1: god damn man, like the knockoff Ticky Punches is not cool, bro. True,
Speaker 1: that's true. I just don't know, but I'm grateful for
Speaker 1: Kanye wanting to buck. None of the die Kanye's buck.
Speaker 1: None of it died Kanye's but none of them buck. Easy, simple,
Speaker 1: no problem, blah blah blah. You know, so like Drake
Speaker 1: doesn't buck. Drake don't buck at all. But Drake is
Speaker 1: not even American. So I only want you know a
Speaker 1: bucking is an American than true. I might be wrong
Speaker 1: with that, but I can hold onto that I didn't
Speaker 1: actually speaking of not being willing to buck, I didn't
Speaker 1: see any footage of Drake at the Freedom convoy in Ottawa.
Speaker 1: Where were you, Drake? Where were you? I didn't see
Speaker 1: you out there representing the standing up against the man.
Speaker 1: I didn't see you what Ottawa Drake without there representing.
Speaker 1: He was not there keeping it real. But now, and
Speaker 1: that's what I paid two hundred dollars for it. Just
Speaker 1: like your hat when your hat came and he was
Speaker 1: like yo um, when he was like yo, I've seen
Speaker 1: this hat. I want to be a part of whatever
Speaker 1: this hat is. I like it, fear me whatever it is,
Speaker 1: if it caught your attention. That's how it was when
Speaker 1: I seen Kanye stem player today. It's like damn, he
Speaker 1: was talking about the stream. I'm like, this crazy motherfucker.
Speaker 1: It's still bucking system. He's still bucking at it, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I want to do. That's why.
Speaker 1: That's why that nigga is in my top five. It's
Speaker 1: it's not quite it's not quite Snoop Dogg culturally. Feel
Speaker 1: me like, it's not the renaissance in culture that Snoop
Speaker 1: Dogg is. But he's consistently trying to buck almost twenty
Speaker 1: years in his career and he's still bucking the system.
Speaker 1: So I don't regret, you know, putting him in my
Speaker 1: top five and in fucking with him, whether I listen
Speaker 1: to the album or not. I pay for him to
Speaker 1: be the nigga he is. That's why I support him.
Speaker 1: I want him to be the nigga he is. I
Speaker 1: don't want him. People keep saying I want old Kanye.
Speaker 1: I don't even like that nigga. I didn't like old Kanye.
Speaker 1: I liked old Kanye's music. Kanye. That nigga was Eddie Winslow.
Speaker 1: Like Eddie Winslow was the least entertaining character in fucking
Speaker 1: family matters. So I don't didn't get every by real
Speaker 1: gangsters though. Huh. He didn't get jumped in the diner
Speaker 1: and by real gangsters though, yes, because that's what happened
Speaker 1: to Nigga's like, yeah, if you was in a real diner,
Speaker 1: niggas with bashing fill me, they'll beat him up. But
Speaker 1: we music at that time, you know, was so correct
Speaker 1: and so jamming. I could funk with it. Suck him.
Speaker 1: The music was jamming. But now the nigga he is now,
Speaker 1: he's him unapologetically like to me. Back then, he was
Speaker 1: more an apologist for who he was. He didn't really
Speaker 1: want to say too much. He wanted to rub people
Speaker 1: the wrong way. This yea don't give a fuck. Kim
Speaker 1: could be whatever she is, and he like, I want
Speaker 1: this bitch back. He don't care what Glasses Malone things.
Speaker 1: He don't care caturally that the West Coast is said,
Speaker 1: you can't turn the hole into a housewife. He liked
Speaker 1: whatever niggas is saying, fuck y'all, I want my bits back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I got this house and this housewife
Speaker 1: for this house already bought the house. Like he wants
Speaker 1: to fight Pete. He's like, yo, He's like if I
Speaker 1: catch Pete, I'm gonna squat him up. He put a
Speaker 1: picture cause of Melvin from Baby Boy and and Jodi
Speaker 1: and himself. I was like, this is my nigger. He
Speaker 1: that guy, that other Pete. It's like he's he's just
Speaker 1: living my life. What's what's the black ass angry at him?
Speaker 1: All over the internet for fun with their bitches. That's
Speaker 1: every time I go online, I see some guys holding
Speaker 1: up a piece of paper, Piste off and fun Pete.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is just I'm like, you like that,
Speaker 1: but it's not got a sister. True, this is a
Speaker 1: black man, sure so, but d that's funny and Pete.
Speaker 1: And Pete is such a you know, down the earth
Speaker 1: kind of person where you like, as much as I
Speaker 1: love you, I don't hate Pete. Like I'm not in
Speaker 1: there ship. I don't know the guy from Adams. Pete
Speaker 1: is such a regular dude that you'll be looking and
Speaker 1: he's traditional white person. Will you be looking at him?
Speaker 1: He do some half gay ship, half corny ship you liked?
Speaker 1: Is just Pete Davison, this white person. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: thought it was funny, Like, well didn't can you put
Speaker 1: the screen shot up of him saying like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to overstep the boundaries on you know,
Speaker 1: the kids and all that kind of stuff, and hopefully
Speaker 1: we could be cool with it. Like it was very
Speaker 1: like borderline gentleman l and he's like this guy like
Speaker 1: this bitch as me. And you know Pete owner too,
Speaker 1: why she loved because this is a white lady. This
Speaker 1: is my point, like it's his wife. So it's only
Speaker 1: so much I can say. I pretty much said what
Speaker 1: I had to say about it. Bro leave it alone.
Speaker 1: I mean, in my mind, find your sister, save one
Speaker 1: of our sisters. They need to be saved. If you
Speaker 1: want to save somebody. I disagree because I'm single, so
Speaker 1: don't take another one off the market. Just bad mathematics
Speaker 1: for me. Whatever. Pe, you ain't gonna marry nobody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'd like to know I could happen for a
Speaker 1: weekend if fees off the market. I can't happen more
Speaker 1: than enough. It's a whole country for the niggas, whole country,
Speaker 1: for the whole country, for the sisters, the whole country,
Speaker 1: and they and they better looking than mostly everybody. You
Speaker 1: gotta expand your horizons if you're looking for the sisters.
Speaker 1: That's why I moved to Miami. No no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no no, Like we need to move to South Africa.
Speaker 1: That's a little far. I have a girl South Africa.
Speaker 1: She's coming to Miami. I bet you do. She's come
Speaker 1: to I bet you so. The point I'm saying is so.
Speaker 1: The point I'm saying is we we It's just um
Speaker 1: to use that person for me. He's that person that
Speaker 1: that's still their hip hop. He started off to me
Speaker 1: very hip hop if he you know, don't let me run.
Speaker 1: The music is very much correct and it's inspired by
Speaker 1: some of the greatest minds Dela, Dre he Fan, He's
Speaker 1: a great science to yay. It's unbelievable, are like. He's
Speaker 1: the only nigga doing change us bro like. He's change
Speaker 1: ups and beaches just borderline like early Dre like, but
Speaker 1: just modern like. He's just real. He's unbelievably brilliant. Right.
Speaker 1: But what it is I like about him is he's
Speaker 1: still a nigger. He's still bucking like he like, Yo,
Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to hold me no
Speaker 1: matter what you do. He's still bucking, and I need
Speaker 1: that in my hip hop. I got a question for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's almost a little bit of a juxtaposition, like to
Speaker 1: a degree, well more like later Snoop than earlier Snoop,
Speaker 1: but like Sloop really did all his bucking on the music,
Speaker 1: where Kanye doesn't do really any of it done. The
Speaker 1: music is just different. But the way he goes like
Speaker 1: not what he says, but the way he says it
Speaker 1: may be delivering the content or like Snoop beside I'll
Speaker 1: go nice television show with Martha Stewart. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: I want to undercut the entire music industry. So this
Speaker 1: is a comparison. This is why I say Snoop is
Speaker 1: the greatest rapper ever. Who the fuck can go on
Speaker 1: national television in front of two hundred million American homes
Speaker 1: right and literally wear a blue bandanna jumpsuit and chunk
Speaker 1: up seas and say yeah because crip that's a complete
Speaker 1: cultural renaissance in itself. Like he has changed the face
Speaker 1: of cripping permanently to where like America exist, Like he's
Speaker 1: with Martha Stewart's cousin, Martha Stewart Bro. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: cause I tell you, Martha, Cus you need to do
Speaker 1: I was like this smother of fucking is it in
Speaker 1: Martha Gangster? She really did fed time. Martha is a
Speaker 1: real loop. Yeah. I think Martha squad un the red Niggers.
Speaker 1: Did Martha get court on when she was on the inside, probably,
Speaker 1: and she didn't tell and it was somebody she could
Speaker 1: have told on. Yeah, she just just kept in. Did
Speaker 1: he a little time soldiers that ship off? Martha more
Speaker 1: hip hop then Kanye West. No, she She's more hip
Speaker 1: hop than a lot of diet Kanye West, like the
Speaker 1: aftermarket rappers of Kanye West, the products. Kanye West himself
Speaker 1: is a fucking revolution period. Now it may be a
Speaker 1: personal revolution, but it is a It's that's hurricane, bro,
Speaker 1: That's a fucking what they call it, uh, category six.
Speaker 1: He's a category six in life. Suck the music in life.
Speaker 1: He's a category six. Hey, there was a thing online
Speaker 1: that showed him dressed up like bushes like a sniper
Speaker 1: and the driveway. Was that real? Hope that it looked
Speaker 1: like what I had seen? It was like surveillance imagery instaid,
Speaker 1: like Kanye West hiding out in the bushes in front
Speaker 1: of the Kim's house. But he was dressed like the bushes,
Speaker 1: like the bushes were over here, and he was like
Speaker 1: six ft over. He wasn't even next to the bushes.
Speaker 1: He was the bushes. Yeah, bro, I just needed to
Speaker 1: be on take when you and Pete finding squabble, I
Speaker 1: just needed to be on tape. They should do that
Speaker 1: on the same card. And that one should be on
Speaker 1: the street in front of the house, as long as
Speaker 1: you can get on the ring the ring doorbell you
Speaker 1: live across the street, Pete when he's spending the night
Speaker 1: over there, Kim how because he needs to just pull
Speaker 1: over there, get a couple of his boys, a couple
Speaker 1: of his look the partners, you know, all the white people.
Speaker 1: It's just reeks of like a O. J. L. Colling's
Speaker 1: remix there. No, they need to either walk in the
Speaker 1: backyard with his goons and yagon and just get a
Speaker 1: fair one. Dude, Kannation, stop calling him Pete and start
Speaker 1: calling him Ron Goldman. You know that would be fun.
Speaker 1: He started calling Ron, that would be the coldest ship ever.
Speaker 1: I'd start calling him Ron Goldman. In fact, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start calling him Ron Goldman. I don't go ship from
Speaker 1: now on. If you're hearing about him from me. I'm
Speaker 1: keeping the integrity of my name. I ain't no other
Speaker 1: Pete but Pete. I'm Pete. That guy that's Ron Goldman