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Speaker 1: Time for Lines and Times and Spencer Graves, my buddy

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Speaker 1: Wes Logan joins me every single episode. And Man, since

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Speaker 1: the last time we talked, you've had some things go on.

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Speaker 1: You finally got your first tournament going for this year,

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Speaker 1: the NPFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you like that, trail Man, It went really well.

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Speaker 2: I was very impressed with them. They ran it great

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Speaker 2: for the amount of people they have working, which is

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Speaker 2: not a whole lot. I think they have like ten

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Speaker 2: or twelve guys and they're running around a lot, but

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Speaker 2: they make a lot happen with a you know, a

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Speaker 2: little bit of man power.

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Speaker 3: That they have. But it was ran really well.

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Speaker 1: I saw you after each day, and every day you

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Speaker 1: got increasingly chippier and not chippy in a good way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm talking about like you were upset.

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Speaker 1: Now you're known as Acusa River Guy Logan Martin's on

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Speaker 1: the Kusa River. Do you have this feeling that you

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Speaker 1: have to perform even more because people know you're Acusa

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Speaker 1: River Guy?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Like and I'm not gonna say I put

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Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on myself because there was just

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Speaker 2: another tournament, but I felt like I was expected to

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Speaker 2: do a lot better than I did.

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Speaker 1: Because you're considered one of the hammers when you're out there,

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Speaker 1: not only just being a pro anyway, being a bass

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Speaker 1: master elite, and then you're going into the MPFL, you're

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Speaker 1: still a bass master guy. So there's guys that you know,

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Speaker 1: they beat you in a tournament, they're gonna go home, Billy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, place better and less.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Like even like the local tournaments we fished

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Speaker 2: around here where ninety percent of the dudes beat my butt.

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Speaker 2: Every time I go out there, They're still like I

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Speaker 2: beat a bass master pro, and I'm like, what I mean, dude,

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Speaker 2: I still got to go out there and catch them.

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Speaker 2: Like obviously it helps that I kind of know where

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Speaker 2: they've lived before, but I mean, just like this past week,

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Speaker 2: when when you have a drastic weather change and you

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Speaker 2: don't catch up with them or get a clue or two,

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Speaker 2: you kind of get left behind. And I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: that's pretty much what happened.

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Speaker 1: Well, we can finally talk about it, because last time

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Speaker 1: we talked, I couldn't really tell you much about my

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Speaker 1: Logan Martin tournament because you had this tournament coming up.

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Speaker 1: Anything shock you about that tournament?

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Speaker 2: Uh, they moved a lot faster than I than I

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Speaker 2: thought they would. We had a big warming trend. It

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Speaker 2: was real cold, you know, obviously we had a bad

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Speaker 2: cold down here. We had a lot of rain after that,

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Speaker 2: a warm rain, which you know, it warmed the water

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Speaker 2: back up a little bit, but it just got those fish.

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Speaker 2: I thought, looking back at practice, they were in their

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Speaker 2: normal wintertime pattern on Logan Martin right, which I mean

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Speaker 2: it's you know, cranking rog you know, fishing, you know,

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Speaker 2: right inside the pockets for the large mouth stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: And then like the first day of practice, it kind

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Speaker 2: of got up warmer and the water warmed up a

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Speaker 2: little bit, and throughout practice it kind of stayed stable,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden we had an off

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Speaker 2: day Wednesday, and then Thursday it got into like seventy

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Speaker 2: and Friday it got up to seventy and it's like

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Speaker 2: they just started. I could see it, I could feel

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Speaker 2: it happening. They were just the bites I was getting

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Speaker 2: was just spreading out like they were going away, which

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Speaker 2: I knew the fish were leaving, and I just couldn't

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Speaker 2: make myself. I tried to go fish real shell and

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Speaker 2: fish for the large mouth, which is how a lot

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Speaker 2: of guys caught them. On the third day. I just

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Speaker 2: never got that clue to kind of figure out where

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Speaker 2: they had went to or if I was in the

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Speaker 2: right section of the to be doing that.

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Speaker 1: You know what's weird to me is I looked at

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Speaker 1: the top ten and it seemed like a lot of

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Speaker 1: the guys in the top ten just barely kept their

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Speaker 1: position or fell off a little bit. But then you

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Speaker 1: had guys kind of in the middle of the pack,

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Speaker 1: and they had big bags on the last day in

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Speaker 1: order to make some big jumps. To me, the guy

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Speaker 1: that finished third, Jesse Millsaps, dude's a stud fish.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, frasing Georgia, Right, yeah, he's.

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Speaker 4: A stud fisherman.

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Speaker 1: He had a big bag on day three to put

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Speaker 1: himself into that position.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I will say one thing that was kind of in

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Speaker 2: the back of my mind with this MPFL format for

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Speaker 2: people that don't know, everybody fishes all three days. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so cut, there's no cut. So what's a little bit

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Speaker 2: different than that is on the Elite series, if I

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Speaker 2: make the day three cut, I'm getting paid regardless. Like

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Speaker 2: if I go out there in zero, the worst I

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Speaker 2: can fall to is fiftieth and I'm still gonna get ten.

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Speaker 2: Grand Well, okay, So going in the second or going

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Speaker 2: in the third day, I was in twelve. Man, if

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Speaker 2: I zero, I could fall out of a check like quickly,

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Speaker 2: like very fast.

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Speaker 4: You so take that pressure. No, No, I.

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Speaker 3: Didn't like that. Here's why. And it's not that I

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Speaker 3: don't like it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really care for it in that situation because

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Speaker 2: I couldn't go do.

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Speaker 3: What I thought I had to do to win the tournament.

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense? Okay?

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Speaker 2: So I had like a six I had Will had

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Speaker 2: like a seven pound lead over what I had or

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Speaker 2: a six something, So I knew I would need twenty

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Speaker 2: to twenty two to win even if he if he

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Speaker 2: caught him decent again, if I caught that, I would

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Speaker 2: have a shot, which is possible on logan Martin, I've

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Speaker 2: done it before. But you take the risk of going

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Speaker 2: to try to catch twenty pounds, you may not get

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Speaker 2: a bite. So are you gonna go throw away eight

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars to try and win? Are you gonna try

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Speaker 2: and catch ten to twelve again and hold your spot?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 1: But that that then takes you out of the world

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Speaker 1: of the west logan that I know, which is highly competitive.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, don't trust me.

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Speaker 4: I went get in the financial game.

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Speaker 3: Trust me.

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Speaker 2: I went to win the tournament for about four hours

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Speaker 2: and I looked down and I like, it's eleven thirty

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Speaker 2: and I got one bass.

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Speaker 4: Like how big was that?

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Speaker 2: It was a two pounder. I caught a two pounder

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Speaker 2: And then like, so.

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Speaker 4: You need another eighteen to twenty pounds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like five minutes.

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Speaker 2: But it was like good and bad because I thought

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Speaker 2: the morning was gonna start all right. I caught one,

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Speaker 2: I lost a three pounder, I lost another two and

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Speaker 2: a half and then it just died. So I kind

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Speaker 2: of left the spotted bass do I went around the

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Speaker 2: largs and my stuff for like three hours and never

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Speaker 2: had a bite. And I'm like, if I mess around here,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna end up not even get a check out

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: Then do you have to kind of push yourself to

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Speaker 1: get out of the mindset of worrying about the money

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Speaker 1: and just stay competitive, or do you always have a

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Speaker 1: mindset in the tournament of hey, as long as I

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Speaker 1: place here, I think I'm all right. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it because it's a marathon, not a sprint.

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Speaker 2: I guess yeah, and I never and man, I'll be honest,

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Speaker 2: never in praice that I thought I could go catch

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Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty Like, I never saw it. I thought

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Speaker 2: I could catch thirteen to fifteen, sixteen seventeen if I

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Speaker 2: got lucky with a big bite. But I just knew

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Speaker 2: I wasn't fishing around those kind of fish and I

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Speaker 2: would have to go do something to try and catch

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Speaker 2: a big bag. But again, man, it's hard to say,

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Speaker 2: like in the moment, like, yeah, obviously you want to

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Speaker 2: win every tournament, but when you've got that eight grand

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Speaker 2: in your pocket, like if you just catch eight to

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Speaker 2: ten pounds, again, it's hard not to just go try

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Speaker 2: and do that. Once you get to that point in

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Speaker 2: out the winning deal.

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Speaker 3: I need to go seal, which what I can.

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Speaker 1: So my tournament on Logan Martin that I had two

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Speaker 1: weeks before you guys did, And then believe me, in

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Speaker 1: that two weeks, man, the weather was absolutely crazy. You

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Speaker 1: went freezing temperatures to damn near not even needing to

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Speaker 1: wear a hoodie when you go out and fish. So

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Speaker 1: when I fish my tournament, you know you talk about

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Speaker 1: trying to find the right deal, and you could find

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Speaker 1: thirteen to fifteen pounds.

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Speaker 4: I was happy running up and down the lake.

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Speaker 1: I mean I probably went to twelve fifteen different places

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Speaker 1: just trying to scratch through in order to get fourteen pounds.

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Speaker 4: We end up winning the tournament.

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Speaker 1: But is that the type of lake that you have

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Speaker 1: to really run a lot of things? Because I heard

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Speaker 1: some guys say they ran out of spots. I'm not

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Speaker 1: spotted Bada ran out of places?

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Speaker 3: Yeash, I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, luckily with me living here, I didn't run

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Speaker 2: out of places to throw at like I felt like

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Speaker 2: everywhere I stopped, you know, has had bass on it before,

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Speaker 2: especially this time of year. But dude, I bet I

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Speaker 2: hit fifty to sixty places a day, like I would stand.

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Speaker 4: Up for You were running quite a bit. I thought

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Speaker 3: I was moving a lot, man. I ran.

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Speaker 2: I would run like ten miles this way, run back

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Speaker 2: five miles this way, run back ten miles the other way,

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Speaker 2: just because I know how this river system or you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously I didn't do great, but I know that sometimes

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Speaker 2: this whole river system can be timing. You can be

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Speaker 2: fishing the right stretch at the wrong time, and you

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Speaker 2: can even pull in after somebody five minutes later and

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Speaker 2: catch them when they didn't get a bite.

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Speaker 1: Well, so that's what happened in our tournament. And I

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Speaker 1: didn't have to get to share this with you because

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Speaker 1: of the whole you know, trading information thing.

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Speaker 4: But there was a you know, regular boat that just

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Speaker 4: they were out of fun fishing.

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Speaker 1: They were fishing this point and I was in the

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Speaker 1: pocket kind of next to them, and I knew I

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Speaker 1: wanted to be on that point, but I wanted to

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Speaker 1: give courtesy, so they slid off of that point. Well,

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Speaker 1: me and my teammate went over and we caught three

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Speaker 1: fish just boom boom, boom, and they didn't have a bite.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they didn't have anything come in the boat.

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Speaker 2: So can you very well could be doing something different,

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Speaker 2: have a different color crank bait, you know, be dragging

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Speaker 2: something like just that. There's there's only so many places

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Speaker 2: on this river system that is really good like that

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Speaker 2: they get on and sometimes it's you coming from a

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Speaker 2: different angle, you know, the weather change like during the

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Speaker 2: day something and it just I mean that's kind of

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Speaker 2: how that's how I've grown up fishing this place and

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Speaker 2: like I said, I just didn't run into them. But

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Speaker 2: I saw multiple guys fishing the exact same stretches and

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Speaker 2: there would only be one or two of the guys

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Speaker 2: that are catching them every day, Like it's just a

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Speaker 1: I had to try to get myself in a positive

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Speaker 1: attitude before my tournament because I was already in a

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Speaker 3: See, you're blind, you ain't got nothing.

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Speaker 1: Big thing about boat ramp Bettiquet, like there's certain things

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Speaker 3: During the summer. There's some of the words when they're.

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Speaker 1: Win boats in or they're pontoon boats in like you

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Speaker 4: Through their side mirror.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So I was already in a bad mood, you know,

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Speaker 4: I was just like, man, I feel inconvenient.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's for sure. And as far as the

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Speaker 2: But like like you're talking about the headlights, like just

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Speaker 3: Stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: And the pleasure boaters probably don't really understand what's going

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Speaker 4: And what's that Instagram thing it's qualified captain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Watch like all these people and just how little they

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Speaker 2: And I'm not and I'm not not like I don't

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Speaker 1: I actually thought that I was a jerk the other

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Speaker 4: You gonna cut me in line? And I was like,

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Speaker 1: There was an open spot, nobody was even there, Like,

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Speaker 1: why didn't you just slide in. At one point, I

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Speaker 1: I'll move if you know right now that I'm already

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Speaker 4: If I start moving, it's going to be more of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that guy left and that guy been. Then

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Speaker 1: And I'm I'm convinced it's because I have a rap boat.

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Speaker 1: If I didn't have a rap boat, I don't think I.

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Speaker 3: Can promise you you get treated different with a rap boat.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I will say I want to give a shout

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Speaker 2: out to the whoever whoever was fishing Logan Martin Saturday.

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Speaker 2: There was a bunch of club tournaments, but it like

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Speaker 2: I never had any problems, Like I thought we were

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Speaker 4: Because you had you had your trail, which was one

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Speaker 2: Twenty six, and I would I know of three tournaments

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Speaker 2: that were not not big tournaments, but you know, like

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Speaker 4: Twenty five boats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that adds up on it exactly, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So it got a little crowded, but like, man, everybody

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Speaker 1: When we were talking about the boating etiquette, especially at

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Speaker 4: This was the bass Master Classic last year.

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Speaker 1: I was traveling with Buddy Gross and you know, I

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Speaker 1: So I turned his lights off and he gets a

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Speaker 1: still on.

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Speaker 4: I switched it to lights.

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Speaker 1: Off, but I didn't realize that you had to go

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Speaker 4: Oh dude.

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Speaker 1: He he was fixing to cuss me and light me

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, So I got word that this was going on.

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Speaker 4: I was like, dude, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: He was like, hey man, it's not that big of

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Speaker 1: a He reacted exactly how Buddy Gross could react. I

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Speaker 1: thought for sure that I was going to be like

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Speaker 1: nothing happened to my my truck. I didn't want my

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Speaker 1: batteries to die. Well, then part of me was like,

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Speaker 1: well it should have been okay, Like if your batteries

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Speaker 1: went down in your truck, We're in the middle of

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Speaker 1: this giant boatyard. I'm pretty sure we can get it

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Speaker 1: fired back up. But I did. I felt about that

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Speaker 4: So you know, John Cox came.

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Speaker 1: Back down, Swindle can back down. All these guys could

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Speaker 2: I will. Like the way trucks are nowadays, so it's

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Speaker 2: hard to like they're all different, like every yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: like you gotta like stand on one leg and jump

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Speaker 1: Slick and I were fishing up at Gunnerville and I

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Speaker 1: I can't remember what kind of truck he's got, but

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Speaker 1: even his shifter, it's not a shifter and it's not

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Speaker 1: a turn dial. It was like a shifter, but you

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Speaker 1: just push it.

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Speaker 2: Down and then it activates the click it again and

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Speaker 4: Then when you want to hit park, you got to

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Speaker 1: And I'm and now I'm like, well, at least it's

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Speaker 4: So yeah, some of these trucks it's just not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the technology is like, it's great, but it

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Speaker 1: When you handed somebody camera back in the day. It's

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Speaker 1: you know how to work one of these, It's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 4: I just point and shoot right like push that. It's

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Speaker 1: Now with trucks, you got to ask people like you

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Speaker 1: always found it funny when we give a co angler

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to back down your truck because you're trying

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Speaker 1: A truck's what ninety thousand dollars a bass boat? Now crazy?

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Speaker 3: I drive my truck all the time, all right, Are

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Speaker 3: you like me?

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Speaker 1: You get your boat on the trailer and then they

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Speaker 1: just start going to clipping things and like trying to

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Speaker 1: secure your boat to the trailer.

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Speaker 4: Do you let people do it or do.

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Speaker 3: You have to be the one that I don't.

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Speaker 2: I get real bad, Like I wouldn't say secondhand embarrassment,

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Speaker 2: but I don't. I hate to tell people to stop

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Speaker 2: doing something like to help me. Like if they start

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Speaker 2: so I'll let him do what whatever they want to do,

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Speaker 2: and then I'll just, you know, recheck everything.

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Speaker 1: I was over at a buddy's place, pel City Electronics,

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Speaker 1: and we were putting on the raptors and you know,

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. I'm ready to go home. Well it's

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Speaker 4: So he already had.

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Speaker 1: Everything done on the boat. But then I felt I

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Speaker 3: Did you stop and look at it and check it?

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Speaker 4: I stopped middle of the rain. I'm getting dumped on

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, we never took the boat off the trailer,

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Speaker 1: but it was when the tongue gets on the hitch

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Speaker 1: the pin in on the breakaway? When I pushed the

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Speaker 1: keep it down? Are my are my actual lines that

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Speaker 1: connect to the bumpy.

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Speaker 4: Dude? And I and I rarely ever feel that way.

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Speaker 4: But I immediately got home and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 1: If I didn't stop, I would have had I would

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: It was driving me absolutely crazy. All right, Well, it's

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Speaker 4: good to know that you actually go through the same

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Speaker 4: things that I, like, I.

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Speaker 2: Said, I just don't like to like because people want

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to be that guy, but I will,

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Speaker 2: you know, let me tell you, let me see this though.

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Speaker 4: You wait for that person to completely leave and then

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, you gotta be real. What

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Speaker 2: depends on how much they're talking. But you got to

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Speaker 2: just kind of like subtly just be talking like, yeah,

445
00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,480
Speaker 2: I had a good day, and kind of look the

446
00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,119
Speaker 2: front toe, walk around the back, kind of just like

447
00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,399
Speaker 2: checking things out. All right, that's hooked all that stuff.

448
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, and sometimes I just you know, they'll just

449
00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,120
Speaker 2: walk off, which is fine either way.

450
00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, then you got to worry about like the

451
00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,720
Speaker 1: motor totor, right, you and I both run yamahais yeah,

452
00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,800
Speaker 1: so we've got a motor totor. I like those things

453
00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,000
Speaker 1: a lot better in the mercuries and without the clips.

454
00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:47,719
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the one.

455
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,360
Speaker 2: The Yamaha one is great from I think pro rule

456
00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,800
Speaker 2: makes it is. It's a it's a really good one.

457
00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,119
Speaker 1: But like the DD twenty six or whatever that the

458
00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,639
Speaker 1: guys have to do that and all that kind of

459
00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,920
Speaker 1: stuff like great product if you have ay, but it's not.

460
00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,160
Speaker 1: But I started laughing because you know, in different tournaments

461
00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,560
Speaker 1: where I've had my boat and I've had a co angler,

462
00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,080
Speaker 1: I've had to ask him like, do you do you

463
00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,560
Speaker 1: have a show at the house, like if you dealt

464
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:15,960
Speaker 1: with them?

465
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,240
Speaker 4: Because these are different. This guy was like, where are

466
00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,080
Speaker 4: your clips? And I was like the RNA clips.

467
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,520
Speaker 1: So there was a guy who was like trying to

468
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,840
Speaker 1: set my boat up, clip everything in. I was like, man,

469
00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I waited until he walked off, and

470
00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,200
Speaker 1: then I went and I mean the tongue wasn't hooked

471
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,479
Speaker 1: upright the d the d ring, I wasn't even all

472
00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,399
Speaker 1: the way up on the actual trailer, and I was.

473
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,200
Speaker 4: Like, oh man.

474
00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,399
Speaker 1: Then I got to call a buddy of mine and go, hey,

475
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,320
Speaker 1: can you just this down real quick and let me

476
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,639
Speaker 1: readjust so I waited for that guy to go before

477
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,119
Speaker 1: it because I did. I'm like, you, I don't want

478
00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,520
Speaker 1: to sit there and go hey, no, I got it.

479
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,840
Speaker 1: But I know that deep within me, I'm.

480
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,320
Speaker 3: Like, don't have to laugh this absolutely yeah for sure, Well.

481
00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,680
Speaker 1: Listen I know that, uh I know Logan Martin didn't

482
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,160
Speaker 1: go the way that you wanted. It could worse, dude,

483
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,440
Speaker 1: you had a great finish. It could have went worse.

484
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,639
Speaker 4: To tell you that, you're all. You actually had a

485
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:11,720
Speaker 4: pretty decent week.

486
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been out a bad day. Three wasn't good.

487
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,399
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just it started real hot and

488
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 2: then it just went downhill and I don't know. I

489
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 2: kind of got in my head a little bit, which

490
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,600
Speaker 2: I've been trying to work on. But that's fine. I mean,

491
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 2: it was a good little warm up for for you know,

492
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 2: the Elite series. We'll be leaving next week. But it

493
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 2: kind of gets you back in that. You know, dude,

494
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,360
Speaker 2: you can go fishing so many times, like and try

495
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 2: and put yourself in a tournament situation, and it's still

496
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 2: it's not the same, like until you're on that crunch time,

497
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 2: like on the clock, like you start making like those

498
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 2: game time decisions, even like a you can I noticed

499
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: the difference in like a like a one day tournament,

500
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 2: like just a local turning around here, like yeah, it'd

501
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: be really cool if we called them, but we're gonna

502
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 2: go fish how we want to really gonna catch them?

503
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 2: When we aren't Where you get in a multi day,

504
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 2: like one of the bigger events, you've got to go

505
00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 2: figure out how to catch some Like you know.

506
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 1: What, how cult is that to know that you have

507
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 1: to go out three, maybe even four straight days and

508
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 1: be on a fifteen to twenty pound bag each day.

509
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 2: It's just the I mean, everybody's job is stressful in

510
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 2: somewhere or another, but the stuff that you don't have

511
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 2: control over it, I think is the most stressful part

512
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: to me, Like the unknowns of what's gonna happen. Like like, dude,

513
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have bad stressful days, you know, hosting

514
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 2: the radio show, But about every time you know you're

515
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 2: gonna come through that door, that microphone's gonna turn on

516
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 2: and you're gonna talk about whatever's happening in the world.

517
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 2: Like you may not know what you're gonna talk about,

518
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 2: but what just just putting it in perspective, what if

519
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 2: when you were leaving your house you didn't know if

520
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 2: your microphone was gonna be here when you got here

521
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 2: to talk on the radio. How am I gonna talk

522
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,640
Speaker 2: on the radio? I wanna have my microphone. Well, I'm

523
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 2: sitting here going what if they're not on my starting spot?

524
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 2: What if they're not on my plan b spot, Like

525
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 2: that microphone doesn't have a mind of it's on that bass.

526
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 1: Does have You always felt that way though, like even

527
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 1: as a kid before you got into professionals, just went

528
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: went fish. Okay, yeah, so why don't we go back

529
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: to that? Why can't why can't you try to adjust

530
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: your mindset to go I'm just gonna go on fish.

531
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: You have all the knowledge, You've got all the tools,

532
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: and I mean that's I mean, you're still just trying

533
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 1: to out smart a stupid green fish.

534
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 2: It is true, It is true. There's I guess it's

535
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 2: hard to do that when there's so much on the line.

536
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that might be why the line doesn't always

537
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 1: come the way that you wanted to. Probably probably, I

538
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 1: mean you if you actually sat down and threw caution

539
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: into the wind and you're like, look, I found him

540
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: here in practice, I'm going to go back throw five

541
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,239
Speaker 1: casts out there.

542
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,479
Speaker 3: If they're not here, we'll go practice.

543
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 4: Not here, We're just gonna go practice.

544
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: Like literally that tournament on Logan Martin and look, I'm

545
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: not a pro by any stretch, but winning that tournament,

546
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 1: I realized and learned a lot just from that win.

547
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 4: I learned way more when I lose, which I've been

548
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 4: learning a lot.

549
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 1: Uh, But went in that tournament, like literally my buddy

550
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: called me and said, hey, do you want to go

551
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: fish Logan Mark? Yeah, And then we found out there

552
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: was a team turnament.

553
00:21:59,520 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 3: You got there.

554
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 4: I was like, let's just jump in.

555
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's one hundred and fifty bucks seventy five

556
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: to seventy five, let's just say.

557
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, let's do it.

558
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: And then we ran around the lake and it was

559
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: good because then I got back to the dogs and

560
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: had the afternoon and we find out we win. Well. Literally,

561
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: he called me the night before when he was getting

562
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: ready to leave and I said, I'm gonna throw a

563
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: crank bait, a jerk bait, spinner bait, like these are

564
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: all the things that I have, and what do we

565
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: catch them on?

566
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 4: Those three things? So we just went out to go fishing.

567
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 4: And I know plenty of guys say, oh, just go fishing.

568
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can't treat it that way, like there's a

569
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 1: lot of pressure that comes in. But could you, like legitimately,

570
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: could you take every tournament you do and go I'm

571
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 1: just gonna go fishing today.

572
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I'm sure you could, but I,

573
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: like Ken West Logan, the problem.

574
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: I would have with it, Like me personally, I think

575
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: if I did do that and it works out, that's awesome, Like, Okay,

576
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 2: this is the you know, this is the cats.

577
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: Now, this is the easiest thing to do. Well.

578
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 2: If I go do that and it ends up worse

579
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 2: than I thought it could be, then I'm gonna beat myself. Yeah,

580
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 2: you'll blame like, man, you didn't enough effort. You weren't

581
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 2: you weren't focused enough. I think that's kind of like, dude,

582
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just not gonna happen. Like I kind of

583
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 2: had that realization on day three. I'm like, this termament

584
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 2: just wasn't It wasn't meant for me to like win.

585
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: It just I never got on the right deal. And dude,

586
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: the crazy thing is, like you hear guys say this,

587
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: when it's meant to be, you can't keep it from happening,

588
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 2: and you can't you can't make it happening. So so

589
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: like a couple of days ago, the NPFL posts a

590
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: video of will fish in one of the days and

591
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: he reels his crank bait out of the water and

592
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 2: a three pounder jumps up and eats it as he's

593
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: picking it up.

594
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 3: Dude.

595
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: When I saw that, I was like, there was nobody

596
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: else gonna win that turn like it was his. It

597
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: was no doubt he figured out a deal on a

598
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: part of the lake not many people were fishing. And

599
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: when stuff like that starts happening, like when the water's

600
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 2: fifty degrees and there's bass jumping out of the water,

601
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 2: eat your crank bait. Heck, dude, you can't beat him.

602
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: Like it's not gonna happen. So when you say when

603
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: it's your day, it's your day, I've had him.

604
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 4: That was laylake for you and the elites when you

605
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 4: want it now, Yes.

606
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: That that I mean, dude, Like the final day, I

607
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: mean you can go back and watch the whole live.

608
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: I lost enough fish to win in the first hour

609
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: like twice, like they just they either missed my jit

610
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: swim gee, they come off coming to the boat, and

611
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: I still won, Like I did everything wrong and still

612
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: won the tournament. Like you can't keep it from happening.

613
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: Do you have a little bit of pressure in the

614
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: back of your brain that says, people won't take me serious.

615
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 4: Unless I win the lead. That's not on the KUSA No, No,

616
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 4: I don't.

617
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: I've never really thought of that because I mean, I

618
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 2: should have won. I've been leading at Gunnersville, I've been

619
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: leading all across.

620
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 4: Where'd you slip? You had a couple of second place.

621
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: At twice, one time in the fall and one time

622
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: in uh the the second place in the in in June.

623
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: I think when Kupfall won, I think he beat me

624
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: by like eighteen pounds, But dude, it was he had

625
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: a twelve pound league win in the final day.

626
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 4: That was no like it was his tournament talk leads.

627
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the Okachobe deal the Open m Scott

628
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: Martin a ninety three plus pound bag. Yeah, I mean

629
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: you talk about when it's your day, it's your day.

630
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: He's a local to Clewiston, lives on Okachobe, knows plenty

631
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: about Okachobe. So he puts up a bag like that.

632
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: The guys that are in second place, third place, like

633
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: I think Tucker.

634
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 4: Was one of them that was in the time.

635
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 3: I think Randall finished third.

636
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to be.

637
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: Thinking at that point, You're like, Hey, I'm just gonna

638
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: go out and I'm going to try to get second place,

639
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: and you to give it. You're trying to find the

640
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: guy that you can chip away at.

641
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you go out there like when the lead,

642
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 2: like like with me and Caleb and like with that situation,

643
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: you just go out there and just keep fishing like

644
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 2: we've been doing and whatever bites bites.

645
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: I mean you do his best.

646
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: Say you can pressure different because now you you really know,

647
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: like I'm not in it for first, I'm in it

648
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: for second.

649
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: I think the pressure is different, but I don't think

650
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: your intensity needs to change. I mean you need to

651
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: go out there and catch the biggest bag you can.

652
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: But realistically, he's going to have to have the worst

653
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: day of his career to not yeah, to not win.

654
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: I mean I had a lead one time in a

655
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: BFL regional when I was like eighteen at the Saint John's.

656
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: I had an eleven pound lead over second, and I

657
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: still caught thirteen pounds the final day and got beat

658
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: by like three ounces. Like the dude in like fifth

659
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: called like twenty seven. So like, dude, sometimes it's just

660
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: not your day, or you go do everything you can

661
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 2: and somebody else catches them better. That's just I mean,

662
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: it wasn't your The good Lord said it wasn't your day,

663
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: like you just go. You just got to accept that.

664
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 4: That's a hard pill to swallow.

665
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: Well, the worst ones.

666
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: I what hates me is when like you have the

667
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 2: opportunity to win and it just doesn't happen, like they

668
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: just you either, you know, you lose them. They you know,

669
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: something something just happens. Like that's the ones that hurt

670
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: the worst. Like you had the opportunity and it just

671
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: like sometimes you don't get the opportunity, like it just

672
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 2: doesn't happen.

673
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

674
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: I look at some of these tournaments, and I mean,

675
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: I like getting in some of these bigger tournaments, you know,

676
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: the one hundred and fifty two hundred bone tournaments. But man,

677
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: you want to talk about winning a tournament you have

678
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: a multi day at two hundred plus boats. Oh yes,

679
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: you got to get them like you're dodging bullets left

680
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: and right, and for you to be able to come

681
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: in with a giant bag, like I'm happy to just

682
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: scratch twelve to fifteen pounds. The guy told me back

683
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: in the day, he was like, hey, look, if you

684
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: fish just your local pro Joe's type of tournaments and

685
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: it might be even a couple of days, but it's

686
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: two hundred some boats. He's like, you get twelve pounds

687
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: a day, there's a good chance you're going to scratch

688
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: a check.

689
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

690
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: I feel like that number is probably going up a

691
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: little more because of the ford facing stuff.

692
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 3: But it depends on where your what area of the

693
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 3: country you're fishing into.

694
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 4: Let's say fifteen pounds, fifteen's.

695
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: Pretty solid anywhere you go.

696
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 4: So there you go.

697
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: So the idea for a lot of guys if you're

698
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: fishing tournaments is you want to go out and you

699
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: want to try to catch fifteen pounds. Yes, no matter

700
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: what time of year, no matter what lake, no matter

701
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: what part of the country, you want fifteen pounds.

702
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, fifteen pounds, I mean the average size of

703
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: a large mouth basses two and a half to three

704
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 2: and a half pounds. It's like most of the I mean,

705
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: you might go to like where we're going at Toledo,

706
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: the average may be a little bit bigger, but but like,

707
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: fifteen's pretty probably average.

708
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 4: There is significantly larger Well the haf ones.

709
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you got you got that to do it.

710
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: And the only time the fifteen is kind of skewed

711
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: is up north with the small mouth because they're just

712
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: so many of them like fifteen's nothing, we're sixteen and

713
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: a half, seventeen's you know, doing good? Yeah, But if

714
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: you can just go out there and figure out how

715
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: to get a quality like catch quality fish like you're

716
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna get the better because if you're catching

717
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: three pounders, you have the opportunity to catch a seven.

718
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: If you're catching pound and a half ers, probably not

719
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 3: so much.

720
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: Do you have to adjust off of that?

721
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: Like let's say you go out, you make five cash,

722
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: you catch five one and a half and lowers. Are

723
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: those fish staging just a little higher than the bigger ones,

724
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: like they're in the same area?

725
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: Or do big ones not hang out with little ones?

726
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: I mean they'll hang out together. And I'm not like

727
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: I'm not a fishball just or expert or anything, but

728
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: I sometimes it's more of a bait selection or a

729
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: tech in that same area.

730
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: Gotcha.

731
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: I feel like like you may catch him on a

732
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: little crank bait, catch you know, eight pounds, and then

733
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: somebody comes behind you flipping the jig and gets three

734
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: bytes and they weigh twelve pounds, they catch three four pounders.

735
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: Where that little fish it gonna bite that, you know,

736
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: that big jig and that bigger fish don't want to

737
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: chase that little crank bait because he's not gonna get

738
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: a lot out of exerting that energy to catch that

739
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: little crank bait. He'd rather eat that big crawfish that

740
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: comes beside it.

741
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Tell you, what's so interesting to me is just in

742
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: the conversations that I've had with some guys after tournaments,

743
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: Like I learned through a couple things that they said.

744
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I need to be looking out for

745
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: stuff like that bast Master Classic.

746
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: I'm riding with a guy.

747
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 4: We're driving back.

748
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: He's got like ten minutes to get back, but we're

749
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: within seven minutes of the ramp.

750
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 4: So he's like, Hey, I'm just gonna fish this tree

751
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 4: real quick.

752
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: He pulls over, fishes a tree, catches a good three pounder,

753
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: culls one of his fish out, throws in the live well,

754
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: takes off, gets the weigh in the ability for him

755
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: to go.

756
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: No, I got to pull over and do this real quick.

757
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: Even in some other tournaments with guys that I've talked to,

758
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, I was just driving back to the ramp.

759
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: I saw this spot, and one guy explained it to

760
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: me where he felt like the heavens opened up sunshine

761
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: just on this one piece of you know, cover a

762
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: tree stump, lay down a brush, bile of bank rock,

763
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: whatever it was. And he's like, and I heard in

764
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: my ears, you know, the angels going huh. He pulled

765
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: up on that through five casts, had four three pounders

766
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: come out cold out. All his fish goes to the

767
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: way in. Yeah, that happened almost every tournament where you're

768
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: driving by, you see some of your like my instinct

769
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: says I may need to go do this.

770
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it.

771
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: I wish it happened to every tournament because a lot

772
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: of times when it happens, you do catch some and

773
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: it you know, maybe it's a good Lord telling you

774
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: to pull over there, But I mean you just got

775
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: to listen to you good I mean when you if

776
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: you like I sometimes we get so caught up in

777
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: the pressure and running practice and run practice we don't

778
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: stop it listen like and like good Lord's like, hey

779
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: they're doing this, or the fish are trying to tell

780
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: you something, and like you're just so focused on what

781
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: you were doing you you spin yourself out and because

782
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: they're not doing.

783
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: It no more, I'm such a huge fan of just

784
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: listening to yourself in the boat, because you know, I've

785
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: had conversations where guys are like, when is it a

786
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: good time for me to pull my trolling motor up

787
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: and walk away from a spot. And I always tell guys,

788
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: not that it matters, you know, in my opinion on it,

789
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: but I always say, the minute you think I need

790
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: to move, you should move.

791
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, I agree, I agree the quicker you.

792
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: And and here's the next thing, Like I've heard Paul

793
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: Nex say this, and I don't remember exactly how he

794
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: said it, but if you think of something more than twice,

795
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: do it like that?

796
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: He said.

797
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: That's the way he fishes, Like, like you just said,

798
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: if you have that thought to move, if within five

799
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: or seven minutes, I think he says, if you think

800
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: it again, just pick your stuff up and go somewhere else.

801
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he goes back to that whole thing we

802
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 1: were talking about earlier though, Like, if you're just going

803
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: to go out and fish, your goal is you just

804
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: want to catch fish. Yeah, So if you're saying to yourself, man,

805
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they're gonna bite this crank break and

806
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: they don't bite the crank bait that you're throwing, and

807
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: you go, maybe they just want something that's a little less.

808
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: Like maybe a little more orange. You should make that switch.

809
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if.

810
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: They weren't biting what you were throwing, what's the what's.

811
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: Gonna hurt something else?

812
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: That's the that's not always like kind of like I'll

813
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: trust I'm like, what's it gonna hurt if I went

814
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: an hour without a buy Like, it ain't gonna really.

815
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm happy that we got into some bad beats on

816
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: this where you talk about how you have a monster

817
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: bag and then all of a sudden somebody comes charging behind.

818
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: I like the fact that we got into some of

819
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: the boat etiquette stuff, because.

820
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: Man, we need to do better with that airbody.

821
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: Like rap etiquette is big, but there's boat etiquette that

822
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: we didn't even touch on.

823
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: The on the water stuff, there's a lot of that

824
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: what's the.

825
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: What's the one thing that drives somebody crazy on the

826
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: water in a tournament that you wish would be eliminated

827
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: because you know, I heard a couple of guys say

828
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: some things at the NPFL and I was just like,

829
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that, where they

830
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: were like, hey, if you know what big tournament's coming

831
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: to the year Lake, you need to.

832
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 4: Stay off of it while the pros are out there.

833
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 4: I don't, and I don't agree with that.

834
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: No, I don't agree with that at all, because I mean,

835
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: I've been that kid before where I wanted to be

836
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: out on the water and see what all the guys

837
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: were doing. Now the problem I have, and I've seen

838
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: it happen a lot, not with me personally, it hasn't

839
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: ever happened much. You might have a few guys following

840
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: you and then you try and roll back to a

841
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: place maybe later in the day or the next day,

842
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: and that boat's doing the exact same thing you were

843
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: doing on the exact same spot where he wouldn't have

844
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: been doing that if you hadn't been sitting there and

845
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: he came and watched you. So I think the worst

846
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: part is like, like, there's nothing wrong with being on

847
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: the water, it's not gonna hurt anything. But actually and

848
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: even going fishing, Like if you want to fish when

849
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: we're out there, by all means, go fish, But like

850
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: if you see the leader going down a rip wrap bank,

851
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: you know, throwing a dirt bait, don't ten minutes after

852
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: he leaves, go back behind him and throw a dirt

853
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: bait down that same bank.

854
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it all comes down to, you know,

855
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: respect for the tournament in the angler that's doing it.

856
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: Like if I see something, because I'm a lot like you,

857
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: If I see somebody who's on a spot, like, I

858
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: want to watch and try to learn and pick.

859
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: Up things that I see that you do.

860
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: But I'm certainly not gonna throw my trolling motor down

861
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: and just fish right behind you and try to do

862
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: the same thing. And in retrospect, if I pull up

863
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: to a spot that I fish on my lake all

864
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: the time, knowing that tournament guys are really just coming

865
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: to that lake for that week, they might not be

866
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: there for another five years. If I see that you're

867
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: already on it, I'm not going to try to get

868
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: within one hundred yards of your boat and try.

869
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: To like push you, you know, push around like.

870
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: I've been pushed.

871
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: I've been tried to be pushed before, and it's not

872
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: a it's not a great feeling, I can tell you that.

873
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 4: But that's the weird part is like, yes, it's water,

874
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 4: nobody owns the water.

875
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but most of the time most of the time

876
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: people if they're you know, a much you know, of

877
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: established angler at all, they kind of know what they're

878
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: doing and you kind of as as us guys, I

879
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: feel like sometimes you can kind of tell what you're

880
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: dealing with. Like he may have mister Bob out there

881
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: that's sixty five retired. He's just fishing down the bank

882
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: like more than like do whatever you want to do,

883
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: but I don't care. But when you got a dude

884
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: out there that's freaking flying around and you know, like

885
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: getting all crowded on people, like he knows what he's doing. Yeah,

886
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: and and and it made you. I think sometimes it

887
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: may be jealousy. But like my my biggest thing is

888
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: I've had one or two run ins, bad ones, not

889
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: very many. And my whole argument is that's fine if

890
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 2: you want to try and mess me up, like that's whatever,

891
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: Like that's that's on you, Like you got to live

892
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: with that. But how about Monday morning when you get

893
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: to your desk job, I'm sitting there and I take

894
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: your computer and your keyboard and you let me know

895
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: how you how you react to it.

896
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: Like that's that's been my biggest thing, Like this is

897
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: my job.

898
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: The situations that I've run into are I think these

899
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: are fairly common. I'll be working a bank and all

900
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: come around a dock or all come around to a

901
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: little point or whatever, and then I noticed there's a

902
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: boat on the same exact bank, but they're coming towards me,

903
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: So to go kind of into the wind. Yeah, try

904
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: to present my bait that way, and they're doing something

905
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: a little different. I'm the type of person where if

906
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: I get to them, I'll veer out, let them continue

907
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: going down the bank. I'll give up that one dock

908
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: or that one little rock or whatever they're trying to

909
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: throw at. But then I immediately tuck it right back

910
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: in and keep going. Is that something in tournaments that

911
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: that pros usually run into her If you see somebody

912
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: on a stretch, you go, I'm just staying out of there.

913
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: It just kind of like it depends on what they're doing.

914
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: Like I obviously you don't want to just pull in

915
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: in front of somebody, but if you which that happens,

916
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it happens a lot. And like a

917
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: couple of times this past week when you get on

918
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: a like I've seen it happen a lot on Doc Lakes,

919
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: like because the way you fish them, I mean most

920
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: of the time you're you know, tucking in getting around them.

921
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 3: You won't even see nobody, and.

922
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: You might pull over there and you know, fish one

923
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: or two and then y'all bounce out at the same

924
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: time you're like, all crap, do my bath Like me,

925
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: it happened me and Buddy one day, I think it

926
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: was day two. He was he ended up being on

927
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: a stretch. Yeah, Like I ran to them, to one

928
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: end of them. I was gonna fish them this way,

929
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: and I like, I swear I didn't see nobody, and

930
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: I've seen him pop out. Well, I just picked my

931
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: stuff up and left. I didn't even keep fishing, and

932
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: I just out of by him. I sayd my bad, dude.

933
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: I So he's like, that's all good, but like that's

934
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: normal stough sure. Like but the you know, passing each

935
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: other like we're dude, we're all respectful, Like we're all

936
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: out there for the same reason.

937
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

938
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen guys blow by somebody and then go,

939
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, three docks up and cut that line. And

940
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: then at that point you're just like, man, if you

941
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: really want it.

942
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: That bad, just take it.

943
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: Go ahead. Yeah, because in twenty minutes the timing might

944
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: not be right. He'll just come back, you know, you'll

945
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 4: find him. Then.

946
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: That's West Logan. I'm Spencer Graves, Lines and Tyne. Thanks

947
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,600
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948
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