WEBVTT - Invention Playlist 3: Air Conditioning, Part 3

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Invention, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Invention. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe McCormick, and we're back with part three of our

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<v Speaker 1>exploration of air conditioning. And what do we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>in the last couple of parts. Uh, Well, we we

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<v Speaker 1>took a journey. We first of all, we we started

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<v Speaker 1>in uh, in the ancient world, and we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>just how people have approached living in hot environments, in

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<v Speaker 1>in hot cities, especially uh, you know, since the dawn

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<v Speaker 1>of human civilization. Yeah, And some of these solutions for

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with the heat before the invention of air conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>were cultural. They were like about you know where life

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<v Speaker 1>takes place, and you know where you do certain things

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<v Speaker 1>and under what conditions. And other solutions would be more architectural,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we talked about that ingenious solution from ancient Persia

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<v Speaker 1>involving the wind catchers and the underground channels of water

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<v Speaker 1>called the connots that would cool the air that flowed

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<v Speaker 1>through buildings that way. And of course, millions of people

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<v Speaker 1>in hot climates around the world still don't have air

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<v Speaker 1>conditioning today, and they use older techniques and strategies to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the heat. So a lot of these things

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about are not things of the past. They're just, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're less a part of culture in places where air

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<v Speaker 1>conditioning is now prevalent. But then, of course we got

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<v Speaker 1>into the invention of the true air conditioning system, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about John Gory, the doctor from Appalachical of

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<v Speaker 1>Florida who developed a chemical process for manufacturing ice for

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of cooling hospital rooms. Also we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the ice King, Frederick Tutor in the ice trade, which

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<v Speaker 1>was a fun diversion. And we also talked about Willis Carrier,

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<v Speaker 1>the American inventor who created a dehumidification process for industrial

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<v Speaker 1>printing spaces. But then of course quickly realized that this

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<v Speaker 1>technology could be used to cool and dry the air

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<v Speaker 1>for human comfort in homes and businesses. And that's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of that that's the money in site, right that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the rubbing the fingers together moment. And so of course

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<v Speaker 1>this luxury had massive appeal when it was new. Having

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<v Speaker 1>a cool building during the sweltering days of August. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>when that was a near total novelty. Yeah, And so

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<v Speaker 1>this episode is going to to look at how this

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<v Speaker 1>novelty unfolded, particularly in the United States, but also looking

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<v Speaker 1>at some examples from elsewhere in the world, UH, to

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<v Speaker 1>show how it ends up transforming UH society to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain extent, certainly, and also transforming a number of other

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of our modern life. I think you could argue

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<v Speaker 1>that the legacy of air conditioning is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most underappreciated technological influences shaping the last hundred years of

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<v Speaker 1>especially American culture, but culture probably all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, certainly for those of us who grew up

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<v Speaker 1>with it. You know, if you if you grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in a time during which air conditioning was readily available,

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<v Speaker 1>if you grew up uh, you know, but privileged enough

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<v Speaker 1>to to have access to air conditioning all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course if you lived in an environment where

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<v Speaker 1>it was a practical necessity. Because certainly, as was well discussed,

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<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of places in the world where you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need an air conditioning system even a window unit,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you do, you rarely need to employ it,

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe you have less of an appreciation for it

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<v Speaker 1>in those places. Yeah, I was actually to talk. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just out of town for a little while. I

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<v Speaker 1>went on a vacation to England and France, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much all the places we stayed in did not

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<v Speaker 1>have air conditioning. And it was you know, this was

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<v Speaker 1>during September, still pretty warm outside while we were there,

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<v Speaker 1>but we just opened the windows up and nice cool

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<v Speaker 1>air flows in all all the time. And like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing the difference between the difference of opening a window

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<v Speaker 1>in Paris versus opening a window in Atlanta on a

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<v Speaker 1>summer evening, which is just like, you know, it just

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<v Speaker 1>lets the swamp air right in. It doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>cool enough. Yeah. Yeah, um places also come to mind, Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least parts of why you'll you'll find in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people living happily without an air conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>system just because you have a regular, you know, dependable

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<v Speaker 1>temperature more you know, year round. But also you get

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<v Speaker 1>a nice specific breeze, which is less the case in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of places around the world where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you open a window and it just doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>relieve very much, especially if you live in one of

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<v Speaker 1>these houses that has not been designed to create cross

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<v Speaker 1>breezes and all that, right, houses that have been designed

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<v Speaker 1>to depend upon air conditioning. Yeah, so Uh, yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pick up more or less where we left out

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<v Speaker 1>off then. And so this new invention was impressing people.

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<v Speaker 1>People were thinking a lot about how to roll it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Industrial buildings and hospitals were some of the first to

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<v Speaker 1>jump in their hospitals, not surprising since the hospital plays

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<v Speaker 1>into the origin story itself. And then, of course, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're probably wondering, well, who is the first person

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<v Speaker 1>to put one of these puppies in their home, because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously that's the reality most of us, or a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us anyway, live in Well, Charles Gates, son of

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<v Speaker 1>industrialists and uh and gambler John Gates, was the first

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<v Speaker 1>to set one up in their home in nineteen fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>And get this, Minneapolis, Minapolis, what not in Florida, not

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas or that's strange? Well, hey, I mean because

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<v Speaker 1>basically we're looking at a time during which to have

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<v Speaker 1>a home air conditioning system was a manner matter of

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<v Speaker 1>just pure privilege and in luxury and uh, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be confined by you know, geographic constraints.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, in Minneapolis, I mean, how many years, how

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<v Speaker 1>many months of the year would that even be useful? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it also makes me wonder how many months the year

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<v Speaker 1>could you depend on this thing to work, because because

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<v Speaker 1>one of the point, one of the things we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to touch on here is how some of these systems

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<v Speaker 1>were were a little problematic, so innovations in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenties would make them smaller and more more affordable and

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<v Speaker 1>allowed the tech to spread. But as Marcia E. Ackerman

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<v Speaker 1>points out in her book Cool Comfort, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>excellent book about the UH the History of of air

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<v Speaker 1>conditioning UH in the United States, she points out that

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<v Speaker 1>in the early twentieth century especially, there were not many

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<v Speaker 1>places where an investment in a costly a C system

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<v Speaker 1>would give you a return on your investment, except for quote,

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<v Speaker 1>huge halls in which multitudes assembled for entertainment. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean otherwise it is just a matter you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be this this super rich individual who can

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<v Speaker 1>just blow a whole bunch of money on an air

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<v Speaker 1>conditioning system. You need something where you're actually going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to make the money back on it. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course this leads us inevitably to theaters, and she

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<v Speaker 1>points out that there were some early success stories even

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<v Speaker 1>before this point, with just traditional theaters such as uh

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<v Speaker 1>an eight eight performance by Edwin Booth and yes, uh

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<v Speaker 1>related to the other Booth actor really yeah, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>were brothers, I believe, um, but rather different individuals. And

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<v Speaker 1>Edwin Booth, you know, and a famous individual within uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the acting scenes, certainly of New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>So but anyway, there was an eighteen eighty performance by

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<v Speaker 1>Edwin Booth on a hundred degree day in New York

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<v Speaker 1>City's Madison Square Theater and it was described at the

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<v Speaker 1>time by English novelist Mary Duff's hardy um and it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because she was really impressed with it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like here you go into this theater and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's sweltering outside and it's cool inside. Because generally, if

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<v Speaker 1>you within a time before air conditioning, what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of people gathering in inclosed space to

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<v Speaker 1>watch performance. Okay, so that's a teen eighty and that's

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<v Speaker 1>before Willis carriers, So they must have been using some

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<v Speaker 1>more primitive method to cool the theater there. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>there were there were also a lot of failures during

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<v Speaker 1>this time and and certainly in the decades to follow.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting the early twentieth century, you know, despite the realization

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<v Speaker 1>that a C could really turn things around for sweaty

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<v Speaker 1>spectator events. Also in the early twentieth century, they were

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<v Speaker 1>public health and initiatives to legislate ventilation in places like

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<v Speaker 1>this in order to prevent the spread of respiratory illnesses

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<v Speaker 1>like tuberculosis. So this brings us, of course to the

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<v Speaker 1>movie theaters, because it's the movie theater of where we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see the real rollout of air conditioning. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this was during the Great Depression as well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a time of of of great economic hardship.

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<v Speaker 1>So there would there would have been new a C technology,

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<v Speaker 1>but people wouldn't have had a lot of excess income

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<v Speaker 1>to spend on installing them in their houses exactly like,

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<v Speaker 1>so that the technology is really coming on board, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's a very little market for for home use. But

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<v Speaker 1>theaters saw a return on their investment by deploying them.

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<v Speaker 1>And some think that the air conditioning helped usher in

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<v Speaker 1>the golden age of Hollywood. That's really interesting. Now not

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<v Speaker 1>to discount all those B movies of the nineteen thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>or the newsreels or the shorts, because you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>better time than the Great depression to escape into the

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<v Speaker 1>realm of cinema while also staying abreast of current events.

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<v Speaker 1>But on top of that, it was actually cool inside.

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<v Speaker 1>It was dry inside even better right. Uh And this

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<v Speaker 1>has also been presented as part of the origin of

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<v Speaker 1>the summer movie blockbuster. Okay also makes sense. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you go on to YouTube or you know related side,

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<v Speaker 1>and you look around, you can find some wonderful promos

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<v Speaker 1>from this era that heavily advertised the air conditioning. I

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<v Speaker 1>found one from nineteen forty nineties advertising the theater as

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<v Speaker 1>the coolest place in town. Yeah. I checked out these

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<v Speaker 1>links you sent. Oh one of them. It starts with

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<v Speaker 1>the line if nature is wonderful, then our air conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>system is out of this world hyphenated. Somebody hyphens in

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<v Speaker 1>English texts at the time, especially in ads, but also

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<v Speaker 1>I in a different article I was reading, I found

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<v Speaker 1>a reference to a nineteen twenty six ad for a

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<v Speaker 1>movie theater in St. Petersburg, Florida, which said the proud

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<v Speaker 1>management had the temperature down so low that ladies in

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<v Speaker 1>evening dresses almost froze. Another thing that I noticed about

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<v Speaker 1>these ads is uh, some implicating that cool air conditioned

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<v Speaker 1>air is somehow clean as opposed to what I guess

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<v Speaker 1>like dirty warm air. We talked to the previous part

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<v Speaker 1>of the series about why cold water psychologically seems cleaner

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<v Speaker 1>than tepid water. Is something similar going on here, like

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<v Speaker 1>does it feel like cold air coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioner? Is is sterile? Is clean somehow? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you can still catch you know, TV being circulated through it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, yeah, yeah, I think. I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it comes down to just the feeling that it is refreshing,

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<v Speaker 1>and refreshment is good refreshment, and then we equate that

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<v Speaker 1>with health, and you know, we probably buy into some

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<v Speaker 1>of these old concepts like the asthma theory to some extent,

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<v Speaker 1>even if we're not familiar with the term, Like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a legacy of the kind of of that kind of belief,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm a guilty of it as anyone like I

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<v Speaker 1>remember as a kid, like like I would I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to just stick my face against the air conditioning though,

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<v Speaker 1>and just take in the cold air. I wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>that with the with the heat, but with the cold air,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just this feeling that this was pure, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even though obviously wasn't This is a funny memory. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when I was much younger, during times when I

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<v Speaker 1>was having anxiety, Like you know, I was freaking out

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<v Speaker 1>about whatever my little mind was freaking out about back then.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember leaning over an air conditioner and breathing

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<v Speaker 1>the cold air coming out of the vent somehow was

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety relieving to me with a little mask. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not have a mask, but yeah, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>that was, but at any right, this became just part

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<v Speaker 1>of the theater offering. And, as Ackerman points out in

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<v Speaker 1>her book quote, by promising to do more for comfort

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<v Speaker 1>and health than simply move air around, air conditioning reinforce

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<v Speaker 1>the novelty, modernity, and luxury of the movie going experience.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so interesting because it could be another one

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<v Speaker 1>of the many ways that we don't often consider brute

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<v Speaker 1>force technological realities influencing media throughout history. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>like to think of movies and books and recorded music

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<v Speaker 1>and all that solely as products of the creative process

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<v Speaker 1>by the artist. You know, they're just they're creative output.

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<v Speaker 1>But these works of art and forms of entertainment are

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<v Speaker 1>they're highly influenced by brute facts about the physical conditions

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<v Speaker 1>under which they were produced or under which they are

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<v Speaker 1>experienced by the audience. And we talked about this in

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<v Speaker 1>our Motion Picture episode, Yeah You Want You want to.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably prefer the idea that people were just enraptured

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<v Speaker 1>by these these cinematic marvels taking place, and not so

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<v Speaker 1>much that well, they they're they're groin was just super

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<v Speaker 1>sweaty and they're just tired of walking around and swamp pants.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's sort of coming at it from the opposite perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we talked a lot about physical realities influencing

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<v Speaker 1>the early days of film from the production side, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like about the the standard lengths and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they had sound with them and all that, and

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<v Speaker 1>that influenced conventions of the genres early on, or the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there was no film editing early on. But

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<v Speaker 1>then this is coming at it from the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the conditions under which films are shown had

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<v Speaker 1>something to do with the business of film in those days,

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<v Speaker 1>which ultimately dictated something about what kinds of films were

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<v Speaker 1>successful and what kinds of films were made. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about how if I was just going into

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<v Speaker 1>a theater to get out of the heat, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>all it was. What would I what? What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>movie would I want to see? I might just want

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<v Speaker 1>to see whatever movies longest or or indeed, like just

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<v Speaker 1>give me a block of stuff. It can be films

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<v Speaker 1>that can be sure, it's it gonna be the newsreel.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just set for whatever. Uh just just just show

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<v Speaker 1>it to me and let me cool down a little.

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<v Speaker 1>So according to the U. S Department of Energy, uh

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<v Speaker 1>A C units started making their way into theaters in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen twenties, and the earliest systems, though, were simply

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<v Speaker 1>heating systems that were modified with refrigeration equipment, which managed

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<v Speaker 1>to cool the lower seats but left the balcony muggy

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<v Speaker 1>and sweltering, and there are even accounts of people on

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<v Speaker 1>the lower levels having to wrap their feet in newspaper

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<v Speaker 1>paper to stay warm again while people in the balcony

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<v Speaker 1>sweated it out. And it wasn't until nineteen two that

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<v Speaker 1>Carrier installed the first true theater A C system in

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<v Speaker 1>the Metropolitan Theater in Los Angeles, and then the Rivoli

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<v Speaker 1>Theater in New York got an updated version in nine

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<v Speaker 1>and UH they revol he proudly advertised at the time

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<v Speaker 1>that they kept their theater cooled to a constant sixty

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<v Speaker 1>nine degrees fahrenheit or twenty six degrees celsius. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, to each their own, But that is too cold. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think once you get lower if you're talking about fahrenheit,

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<v Speaker 1>once you get lower than the low seventies, what the

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<v Speaker 1>heck are you doing? Yeah, Like, I'm not one to

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<v Speaker 1>turn the thermostat in my own house down anywhere near

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<v Speaker 1>that low. And and if I go into a place

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<v Speaker 1>that is that. I mean. The other thing is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to be dressed for it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I think we all have experienced a cold theater before,

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<v Speaker 1>so imagined A lot of us know that if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to a movie theater, you bring a hoodie, you

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<v Speaker 1>bring a jacket, etcetera. But but I'm imagining these like

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<v Speaker 1>people hot on the street looking to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the heat and set down for a couple of hours

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<v Speaker 1>and watch the cinema and then uh, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>get in there and they're just gonna be like chilled

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<v Speaker 1>to the bone right because they're not dressed for it.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't bring blankets with them. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>three dog theater experience. Yeah, other theaters would boast that

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<v Speaker 1>it was quote twenty degrees cooler inside, which in some

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<v Speaker 1>cases was apparently arguable. Though that there were theaters where

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<v Speaker 1>people complained about the cold or said they actually became

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<v Speaker 1>ill because of the cold. There were even charges of

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<v Speaker 1>a c abuse. What does that mean that they were

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<v Speaker 1>just just chilling people out too much? Okay, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>apparently didn't I've been assaulted with an air conditioning unit. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And also the whole time they're using icicles

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<v Speaker 1>and egg luede decorations and the promotion of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw some wonderful pictures where it is they're just really

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<v Speaker 1>driving at home, like come into the winter wonderland off

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<v Speaker 1>this theater. And there was apparently a lot of back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth, and this Acraman goes into more detail about

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<v Speaker 1>it with you know, certain crusaders for warmer theaters, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really getting some pressed. But then but but

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is it didn't apparently hurt ticket sales in

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<v Speaker 1>any like real meaningful way, and Ackerman points out that

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<v Speaker 1>the first drive in movie theater opened in June three

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<v Speaker 1>in Camden, New Jersey, and became a major force. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the nineteen fifties a major cultural force,

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<v Speaker 1>very popular. But their popularity challenges the notion that people

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<v Speaker 1>only wanted a chilly movie going experience, uh, which most

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<v Speaker 1>cars of the time, or maybe all cars at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not air conditioned, right, Yeah, and the generally you're

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<v Speaker 1>turning your car off, turning the engine off. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>running the a C the whole time, right, It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>about watching a film more or less outdoors. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just movie theaters during the Great Depression. Apparently restaurants, bakeries, libraries,

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<v Speaker 1>and museums eventually began uh experimenting with you know, enhanced

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioned environments and saw enhanced traffic because of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Department stores came into their own as well, and Ackerman

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<v Speaker 1>she hilariously describes uh department stores as basically being quote

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<v Speaker 1>theaters of things like that. But of course you can't

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<v Speaker 1>really charge admission to a department store, so you get

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<v Speaker 1>less of a return on an investment that way, and

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<v Speaker 1>she mentions like accounts of people who went to the

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<v Speaker 1>department store to stay cool and just like went around

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<v Speaker 1>trying on dresses they couldn't afford in order to just

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of the heat, but not really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, spending that much money there. Oh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I can see you get more people into

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<v Speaker 1>the store exposed to the merchandise. Would I would find

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<v Speaker 1>it hard to believe you don't end up selling more

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<v Speaker 1>somehow that way. Yeah, And then I think most I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that, you know, stores are going to to realize that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe they're not going to sell a big,

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<v Speaker 1>expensive dress to somebody on their first visit, but then

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<v Speaker 1>they're smaller things they can sell. There's uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>food and drink, et cetera. Maybe what you gotta do

0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.000
<v Speaker 1>is you gotta pair air can to and interior with

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<v Speaker 1>really pushy salespeople. Now, It's also important to note that

0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.200
<v Speaker 1>while ticket prices and locations made a c movie theaters

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<v Speaker 1>especially a great distraction for a lot of people during

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<v Speaker 1>these these decades that were discussing here, this was certainly

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<v Speaker 1>a part of American life. It was affected by segregation definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Ackerman points out that until the nineteen sixties, overt policies

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<v Speaker 1>and local customs made movie theaters far less accessible to

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<v Speaker 1>black audiences, especially in the South. We're talking poor seats

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<v Speaker 1>alternative viewing times and also just alternative theaters altogether, and

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<v Speaker 1>quote movie theaters and ethnically or racially segregated neighborhoods generally

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<v Speaker 1>lacked the palatial appertinences, including air conditioning of the big

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<v Speaker 1>downtown movie houses. This is another one of those areas

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<v Speaker 1>that people might not even think about the legacy of

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<v Speaker 1>segregation and racial disparity and access to to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>technology is basic access to climate control comfort. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well, on that note, we're gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break, but when we come back, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to look at the impact of air conditioning technology. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. So the impact of air conditioning technology is huge,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can see it in various ways. So on

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<v Speaker 1>the individual level, certainly it made it easier and or

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable to live in hotter regions of the earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and on the other hand, it also

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<v Speaker 1>meant that the climates that once forced us out socializing

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<v Speaker 1>amongst each other, be it at a pond step well

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<v Speaker 1>or just from porch to porch in the neighborhood, now

0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:41.200
<v Speaker 1>forced us inside either into communal a c environments such

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<v Speaker 1>as some of the ones we've discussed uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully like a museum or something, or or perhaps a library.

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<v Speaker 1>But but it also might just put us in there

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<v Speaker 1>in our own individual a c caves cut off from

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else, perhaps with that television or that radio. Not

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<v Speaker 1>to keep this company, this media socialization, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>remains I think a detrimental aspect of our society to

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<v Speaker 1>this day. That's a depressing thought. Yeah, but of course

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<v Speaker 1>now our stuff are our technologies mobile, so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even confined via by air conditioning. I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>make a quick health note. We mentioned U tuberculosis earlier. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a few different health problems that are associated

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<v Speaker 1>with air conditioning, most notably Legionaire's disease caused by the

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<v Speaker 1>Legionella bacteria or a few by you know, all varieties

0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.560
<v Speaker 1>of Legionella bacteria. Uh. And uh, you know it also

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<v Speaker 1>can contaminate hot water tanks, hot tubs, and cooling towers.

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<v Speaker 1>But contaminating the water in an air conditioning system is

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<v Speaker 1>certainly one of the factors. So not to not to

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<v Speaker 1>scare everyone about air conditioning, but again it is not

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<v Speaker 1>properly maintained. Yes, it is susceptible to this sort of thing. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the ways that we already sort of hinted

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<v Speaker 1>that there was a legacy to air conditionings in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that it made many former adaptive techniques of our cultures,

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<v Speaker 1>in our architecture obsolete in some cases, right, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>enabled architectural designs that wouldn't have worked as well or

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<v Speaker 1>at all in a pre air conditioning world, and this

0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 1>includes a suburban tract housing. One of the greatest examples, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is the advent of steel and glass skyscrapers a C

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<v Speaker 1>cool towers of the modern age that without that a

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<v Speaker 1>C would not make as much sense. Yeah. There have

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<v Speaker 1>even been opinions from architects about the the impact of

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioning on sort of the the aesthetic design of

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<v Speaker 1>large buildings. I was reading a Chronicle of Higher Education

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<v Speaker 1>article that decided a quote from the architect Eli Jacque

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<v Speaker 1>Khan in nineteen sixty where con said quote, the period

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<v Speaker 1>of individualistic, imaginatively decorated skyscraper towers has ended. All of

0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:51.360
<v Speaker 1>this Modern equipment, including the cooling towers for air conditioning systems,

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 1>takes space and the logistical area was at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the structure, resulting in a bulky and not too

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<v Speaker 1>handsome mass. So he's totally grossed out by the architecture

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<v Speaker 1>that results from having to put large air conditioning units

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<v Speaker 1>on the roofs of large buildings, which just results in

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<v Speaker 1>sort of boxy buildings instead of the beautiful skyscrapers that

0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:15.560
<v Speaker 1>he liked and designed. Yeah, you wanted to be like

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<v Speaker 1>the sky temple, uh to gozer at the time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise you're I mean really it really. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>does come back to the to the point like what

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<v Speaker 1>is the legacy of of of human uh constructed monoliths.

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<v Speaker 1>The top of it needs to be the peak of

0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a mountain. It needs to be a holy place for

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<v Speaker 1>the world of of humans meets the world of the gods,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't. It just ruins it if you put

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<v Speaker 1>an air conditioning system on top of a zigaratte, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>But even if you're not a priest of the urban zigaratte,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not obsessed with the design of sky, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>skyscrapers like khan Is, I mean, you can definitely see

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it affected architecture at a smaller scale. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when you come down to materials, certainly, even you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have to talk about the giant skyscrapers. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>point brought up in a really cool Mental Floss article

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<v Speaker 1>Life Before air Conditioning by one miss Selania. I. Somehow

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a moniker. I have to ask to

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<v Speaker 1>ask Will about that one. Uh. But this article points

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<v Speaker 1>out the caves and underground housings are a natural means

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>of controlling temperature. But that means that thick brick and

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>stone construction is a good way to duplicate the same

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 1>principle in our constructions. But air conditioning meant that you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to depend on thick materials like this as much.

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<v Speaker 1>Housing could be far cheaper. High ceilings were no longer

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<v Speaker 1>as essential to keep things cool. Upper floors were not

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<v Speaker 1>just for the evening. You could live in the attic

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.199
<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to, because you could. You could just

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:44.639
<v Speaker 1>plug in a superpowered a C and you're good to go.

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 1>You could sleep inside during the summer, you know, with

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 1>your television burning right next to you right well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>another way to think about it is that air conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>also affected the planning of cities because air conditioning makes

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<v Speaker 1>it more feasible for hot climate areas to have high

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 1>density housing. You know, so like you can you can

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>have tall rise apartment buildings in Florida or something, whereas previously,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, trying to imagine that without air conditioning sounds

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.439
<v Speaker 1>pretty hot. Yeah. So you're changing the house, you're changing neighborhoods,

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.119
<v Speaker 1>you're changing cities, and and just on the level of

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 1>an individual house, it's important to note that houses are

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>not just physical structures. They are social structures. And you

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:31.719
<v Speaker 1>cannot alter the physical domicile without also altering the shape

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 1>of life within it. Change the shape of the house,

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and you might, you know, think everything's gonna be just

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>like it was before, but it's it's gonna be a

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>little different. I think that's a really good point. I mean,

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>our architecture shapes our lives. Yeah, the rooms were in

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>determine what kind of things we do in them. Uh.

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>There's this classic thing like why does everybody end up

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen at a party. There is some reason

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:56.639
<v Speaker 1>for that, and there's something about kitchens that you know,

0:24:56.680 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>people filter in that way. Yeah, they all. Yeah, hopefully

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>you have some sort of like an island situation in

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen for people to gather around. Uh. Yeah, otherwise

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>they're just gonna be sitting on the stove or something

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>that does make me wonder though, And I didn't see

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>this reflected in any of the sources we're looking at.

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 1>But obviously one of the strategies to keep your home

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>cooler was that you would have the kitchen in another building,

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:25.159
<v Speaker 1>so where would people gather there? Is that that was

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 1>more of the age of the sitting room. I guess, yeah,

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess so. Or I mean, again, we've talked about

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 1>outdoor cooking is one way of dealing with the heat. Um,

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the idea of the barbecue tradition or

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>grilling out that seems to be a thing that people

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>like to do in the summer. I mean, on one hand,

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's a nice, you know, warm weather outside,

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 1>so people hang out outside. But then on the other hand,

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like you're not having to do your heating up

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>of the food inside the house, which is great. And furthermore,

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>you can think about, you know, the the association of

0:25:55.400 --> 0:26:00.199
<v Speaker 1>outdoor cooking techniques specifically with hotter climates, like you know,

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:03.919
<v Speaker 1>the barbecue and the grill out. These are common in

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the US South, and I think they come from those

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>hot weather traditions. I wonder how air conditioning has affected

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 1>the prevalence or the prominence of the cook out. Well,

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>it certainly means you can you can duck in and

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>out right now, speaking of city planning, another aspect of

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>of all of this is you have all this air

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>conditioning running in the buildings, It suddenly gives you a

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 1>little more license to neglect the maintenance of green spaces

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and trees, which, of course they're providing shade finding more

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>than shade though, I mean, they're they're they're part of

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>your natural environment. That's why you've seen in many cities,

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>including our own city there there have been initiatives over

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the years to like to make sure that the areas

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that have been that have lost their green spaces. Uh there,

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can plant some trees there again and

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>actually bring these places back to life once more. But

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>from like a purely air conditioning standpoint, you don't really

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>need those trees out front. Really they're there, the trees

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that are, you know, lining the sidewalk around the skyscraper,

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:06.160
<v Speaker 1>what what purpose are they They're playing here? Just something

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you have to clean up after, right. I love that

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:13.199
<v Speaker 1>mentality that sees anything alive as a nuisance. Yeah, Like

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and people say, well, you know, it's it's help, it's creating,

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>helping to create the air you breathe, and like no, no, no,

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>the air I breathe comes out of event in the wall, right,

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>those could be parking spaces, parking spaces for God's sake.

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>So so you know, we haven't gotten into you know,

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and we're not going to get into all the details

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>of air conditionings impact. But hopefully, like so far, we're

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>able to drive home sort of the ripple effects here

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that that really touched on just about every aspect of society. Now,

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.679
<v Speaker 1>another one of these ripple effects we've already alluded to,

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>and that is going to become more and more salient

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>as time goes on, I believe, is the energy consumption.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 1>And so the energy consumption and the concurrent carbon outputs

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>created by air conditioning demands. Yeah, absolutely, air conditioning depends

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>on electricity. And as Lucas Davis of UC Berkeley pointed

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>out in in the Global Impact of air Conditioning Big

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 1>and Getting Bigger, we've seen hot regions of the world

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.479
<v Speaker 1>grow hotter, uh and hot regions of the world grow richer.

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 1>And as these trends continue, it just adds to the

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 1>energy demands of keeping cool. For instance, Uh, they wrote

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>that more than sixty million air conditioners are sold each

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>year in China, and again this was when this was

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 1>written as as as in a typical window unit uses

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.160
<v Speaker 1>ten to twenty times as much electricity as a ceiling fan.

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>On top of that, they depend on refrigerants that are

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>potent greenhouse gases. Uh. Davis argues that carbon legislation and

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>carbon taxing are probably the best way to avoid falling

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>off the carbon cliff here, even as the technology grows

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>more energy efficient and you know, better energy sources come

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>online to aid. But yeah, this is but we often

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 1>don't think about just the I mean you probably about

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>your own energy, uh, you know, costs road concerning air conditioning.

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's hard not to when you look

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>at the power bill for a particularly hot summer month.

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you have to realize that that's happening

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>in every house, you know, in the in you know,

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>throughout this city and his other parts of the world

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>get more of the air conditioning bug themselves, You're just

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>going to see more of that. Yeah, and uh, and

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>it's also not just in the houses, but these large

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>industrial or commercial spaces which I think are a huge

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>part of the footprint. But yeah, I mean it's it's

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>one of these binds you're in. I mean, like it's

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>hard not to to love and appreciate the comfort provided

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>by air conditioning if you live in a hot climate,

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>especially in the summer. But another thing that should be

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>pointed out here when you said a typical window a

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>C unit, which is probably gonna be using less energy

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>than like your big central A C unit um uses

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>ten to twenty times as much electricity as a ceiling fan.

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>The other side of that is that ceiling fans are

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>incredibly energy efficient. I mean, you get a really good

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>bang for your buck in terms of how much cooler

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>they make you feel compared to how much energy they use.

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>So another way to think about this is, you know,

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>if you've got your A C unit, you're trying to

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>be energy conscious, but also you're like, I don't know

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>if I can beat the heat in the hottest days

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>without it. I mean, you know, think about at what

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>point you can deal with just having the ceiling fan on,

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and then at whatever point where you can't hack it anymore, well,

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>then you know, you go to your A C god.

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>But if you're a c is like mine. Like sometimes

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>you reach that point and you're like, I don't think

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you can catch up. It's too late. Yeah, I should

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>have been fighting this battle all day, despite you know,

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the problems involved with that. Uh yeah. So, and then

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>of course you just grow accustomed to air conditioning. I

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>guess that's the other side of it as well. Well.

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I just meant to emphasize ceiling fans. Very good, big

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>thumbs up to ceiling fans in my opinion. Oh yeah.

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>And then of course you can flip the switch during

0:30:56.080 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the during the winter and use them to know more

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>to you know, quite a push warm air back down. Alright,

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take one more break, but when we come back,

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>we're going to continue to look at the way air

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>conditioning changed the world. Alright, we're back. So I guess

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 1>we were just going to talk about a couple more

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>things here about the legacy of air conditioning. We know

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>that the legacy of air conditioning has been huge, But

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.959
<v Speaker 1>I was reading a paper by the American historian Raymond

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Arsenal about the impact of air conditioning on the culture

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 1>of the American South. Uh. And this paper was originally

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>published in the Journal of Southern history in nineteen four

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it's called the End of the Long Hot Summer. The

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>air Conditioner and Southern Culture, and Arsenal talks in this

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>paper about how the air conditioner should be thought of

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>as one of the biggest factors shaping the evolution of

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the American South in the twentieth century. So, on one hand,

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>he says, well, it created a lot of Uh. It

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>basically created a lot of economic opportunity where it wasn't before.

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Like it drew in immigrants from other places in the

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>United States to come to the South and work there,

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different kinds of buildings and businesses to

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>take up route there because buildings could now be air conditioned.

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>But over this time, the way people viewed air conditioning

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>transition from quote from a luxury to an amenity to

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>a necessity where you know, people more and more all

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the time think of it as something that's not like

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>nice to have, but something you've got to have. Yeah. Absolutely.

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean if today, especially in the United States, you

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>travel somewhere perhaps abroad, uh and you you find out

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that it's it's something that a room is not air conditioned,

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>or a vehicle it's not air conditioned. Uh. Yeah, and

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>it feels a bit like like like hearing that there's

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be no running water or no, you know, no

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>toilets or something along along those lines. Yeah, totally. That's

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of a self fulfilling prophecy, as we've been alluding

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to before, because the more are the more we come

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to take air conditioning for granted, the more we build

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>our lives around it and make it harder and harder

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to live without it. Yeah, and indeed build out into

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>places where it would not make sense to live without it.

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, for instance, you think like some of these

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>really hot days we had this summer, uh, and how

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>they impacted say, say, people living in Phoenix, Arizona. You know.

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>And it's certainly especially if you're dealing with older individuals.

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there were and are people that are having

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to live out on the streets. You know, there becomes

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a real concern, a health concern of the high temperatures.

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they like hot days can kill people, they

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>do all the time. And so air conditioning one of

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the things says that you know, air conditioning did in

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>many ways measurably improved life, Like it cut down on

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>deaths related to hot weather um. But on the other hand,

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about how a lot of the cultural differences

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and traditions that are associated with communities that live in

0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:00.719
<v Speaker 1>hot climates, including the American South, are a result of

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the hot climate. You know, they're not it's not just incidental.

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, like the cookout tradition. You know,

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a result of the fact that there's hot weather.

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>And with the introduction of air conditioning, many of the

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>distinct cultural features that define cultures in hot climates diminish

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>over time. And so he sort of argues that climate

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>control has to some extent homogenized the United States as

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 1>a culture and reduced to sort of reduced some regional

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>variations that were derived from differences in temperatures throughout the year. UM.

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 1>And if Arsenal is correct in his thesis about the

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 1>American South, obviously this effect would not just be an

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>American phenomenon. Is similar thing could be happening anywhere that

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:50.399
<v Speaker 1>air conditioning pervades hot climates, changing cultural practices and ways

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 1>of life along with it. Yeah, it just it basically

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>changes the equation for from modern living. Yeah. Now we've

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 1>talked a little bit about the commercial growth that results

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 1>due to air condition technology, especially in hotter regions, say

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>at the United States in the post war period. But

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 1>another thing to think about is that a c ends up,

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, proving essential in the computer age is a

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>way to keep these machines from overheating. Oh yeah, I

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>mean we're filling our living spaces also with these machines

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>that are dumping a lot of heat constantly. I mean,

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how much how much a computer heats up

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>a non air conditioned room or a bunch of computers. Yeah,

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's some stats on that left of to

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>look and certainly how how into what extent has changed

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 1>over the years. Yeah. Now, there are other strange ways

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the legacy of air conditioning could be even more powerful

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 1>than it first seems. For example, there are a bunch

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>of uh, there are a bunch of little threads of

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:50.240
<v Speaker 1>social science research about heat and climate control and various

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>social outcomes at the broad level that are correlated with

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>heat and access to air conditioning. For example, I was

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>reading a September article by Jeff Asher in The New

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>or Times that examines a bunch of existing data on

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the possible or supposed links between weather and crime. Now

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 1>when looking at stuff like this, I do want to

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>avoid something that that that actually Raymond arson Oh talks

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 1>about in his article, which is he calls it mono

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>causal climate, a logical determinism, you know, basically like looking

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.919
<v Speaker 1>at the climate or the weather as like the one

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>cause it causal factor in you know, broad social trends. So, yeah,

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you see this from time to time where it's like

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>hot cultures are like this, old cultures are like this,

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>U and sometimes there is you know, in specific areas,

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.320
<v Speaker 1>there's I think there's more of a case to be made,

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, when you start talking about spices

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 1>and food and some of that comes into you know,

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.760
<v Speaker 1>availability of spices as well. Oh. Absolutely, it's it's certainly

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>got to be the case that there are influences of

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>climate and temperature on culture. I think that's undeniable. It's

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 1>just that you want to avoid what he calls the

0:36:55.239 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>mono causal you know, climate alogical determinism where the temperature

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>or is the cause of social outcomes. Uh So we

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>would be careful not to do that, but look at

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 1>like possible links where where the temperature could be a

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>factor on broad social outcomes. And one example is the

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 1>long running documented link between hot weather and crime, hot

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>weather and murder rates, for example. Uh So, it seems

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 1>to be the case that if you just chart an

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>American city across a year, you're very likely to see

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a pattern where the hotter it is, the more people

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 1>get murdered. Asher writes. Quote in Philadelphia, for example, there

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>were two point six shooting victims per day on average

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 1>when it was cold, three point four on pleasant days,

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>and four point four on hot days. And that's for

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>a period I think of the mid teens um And

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>so this really does seem to be related to temperature,

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>because while the rates of indoor shootings stay mostly the

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.840
<v Speaker 1>same throughout the year, the rates of outdoor shootings increase

0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>noticeably the hotter it is interesting. Well, one of the

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>things that you know about crime, that is, people have

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>a negativity bias about trends and crime. People always think

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>things are worse than they've ever been. There's more crime,

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>there's more violent today in the United States. That that

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>is not true at all. Violent crime has been dropping

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>for decades in the United States. Murder rates are at

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a you know, multi decade low. Uh So. Uh but

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>also there's something interesting going on there. You don't want

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you certainly don't want to overstate potential causality, But I

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 1>wonder if could increased access to air conditioned homes in

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the summer partially contribute to decreases in crime over time,

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to decreases in violent crime over time, because you know,

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>if if you're seeing that there is some impact of

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:47.240
<v Speaker 1>like people being outside in hot weather on hot days

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>with rates of violence, could access to air conditioned interior

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:56.320
<v Speaker 1>interior spaces actually play some role there for some inside

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>with the television, so then they're they're safer, but then

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>they feel less safe because they're watching, uh, the murders

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>that are occurring exaggerated and just chewed upon on the television. Well,

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I do think TV TV coverage definitely contributes to that

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:15.879
<v Speaker 1>negativity bias and people's beliefs about crime and things like that,

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>whatever the actual reasons, you know, whether air conditioning or

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>climate control or anything has anything to do with it

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>at all. Uh, it is certainly the case that you know,

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 1>violent crime is is at uh, you know, an exceedingly

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 1>low point compared to historical trends in the United States.

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>So don't buy into that it's always worse, you know,

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:37.439
<v Speaker 1>it's worse than it's ever been idea, right of course,

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 1>And the other day they're into the spectrums the air

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:42.720
<v Speaker 1>conditioning is is not going to solve all the world's problems. Um,

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 1>though there were I did. I did read a few

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>little snippets here about some granted, I think they were

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 1>into all individuals that were part of like the carrier

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:54.760
<v Speaker 1>corporation or other refrigerator companies, refrigerator or air conditioning companies.

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>They were making like a case that like that we

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>can do it, this can this about world peace. And

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I think the particular argument was not like social but

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:05.840
<v Speaker 1>it was more like, hey, we're arguing we're getting in

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>all these scuffles over resources, but if we have enough

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>air conditioning, then we can get all the resources from

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>all the places and then we won't fight anymore, which

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 1>you know has not turned out to be the case. Yeah, yeah,

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>don't buy into that. Another interesting bit of social science

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>data that I was looking at about air conditioning is

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the same article by Jeff Asher points it out. By

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the way, an interesting piece of research by Harvard Kennedy

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>School Associate professor Joshua Goodman, who found a correlation between

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>cooler temperatures and increased academic performance. Quote, students scored lower

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>when they just experienced a hot school year than when

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 1>they just experienced a cool school year. But that air

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>conditioning in schools mostly eliminated the influence of heat on

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>academic performance. So you have an unusually hot school year

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>that tends to hurt academic performance if your school is

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 1>not air conditioned. Uh. And this sort of just intuitively

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:06.879
<v Speaker 1>makes sense to me. It's like, you know, it's hot weather,

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's harder to focus on mental tasks

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and things like that. Um, but that air conditioning inside

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the schools mitigated this effect. Interesting. Yeah, I mean I

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>every time I pick up my son from school from

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>his elementary school, Uh, he'll come out and you know

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.760
<v Speaker 1>often like hold his hand when walking away from school

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>doors and his hand will be so cold from the

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 1>air conditioning inside. But but yeah, I'm all for it

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>being there if it you know, it gives them in

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.879
<v Speaker 1>the environment they need to learn. And with all these

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 1>social science findings, I think we should always be careful

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:42.359
<v Speaker 1>not to read too much into single findings until there's

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 1>been a lot of replication and analysis or findings by

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>others in the field. So I think it's best to

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of treat these as interesting preliminary findings. I will

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I will say this, like, if you're in a cool

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>environment and you're prepared, you have a greater ability to

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>regulate your own temperature. You know, you can always put

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 1>on a jacket or a hoodie right in a in

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>an overly air conditioned space, no matter what the you know,

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the realities of the energy consumption are there. Likewise, in

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>a hot space, there's generally only so much you can

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>take off, and there is an absolute limit to what

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you can take off. Uh, you know, the social decorum aside. Right.

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 1>But but if either of these findings are on the

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 1>right track about like academic performance or crime, I mean,

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you wonder in what other ways could temperature and climate

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>control be changing our society and our culture that you know,

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>we're not appreciating or haven't been studied numerically in these ways. Yeah.

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Another thing to keep in mind is just a different

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 1>cultures are also going to have a different relationship with

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>being cool and being hot, things that have evolved due

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to their you know, just their cultural exposure to different

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>temperatures or sometimes even ideas. I didn't get too far

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 1>into this because there's I wasn't encountering a lot of

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>scholarship about it. But for instance, and we've talked a

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit about, you know, the rollout of air conditioning

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>in uh in in in China, and you know, there

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.879
<v Speaker 1>are some interesting ideas about like what cold and hot

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 1>mean within traditional Chinese medicine, etcetera, and uh, and so

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.319
<v Speaker 1>you know that that's one possibility to look at, like

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>how does how does that play out in the culture

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that has certain values historically attached to say warm and

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>cold air. Oh, I want to know more about what

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>what are the values? I mean some of it gets

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 1>into two to yin and yang and you know and

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>so forth. UM. But some of the papers I was

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.359
<v Speaker 1>finding where I was hesitant really include them because they

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>were like from the mostly from the seventies and eighties,

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and they were dealing with like very rare cases of

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 1>people with UM they were experiencing frigi phobia, like a

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>fear of cold air and an aversion to air conditioned

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 1>spaces and uh. And so these papers were tying like

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:54.720
<v Speaker 1>these rare cases in with potentially looking at potentially how

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>some of these ideas within Chinese culture affected these individuals

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and I believe. I believe it was like in China

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and Taiwan, and perhaps there was a case in Singapore

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>they were looking at um. But in in any way,

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things that I wouldn't want to

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 1>certainly wouldn't want to blow it out of proportion because

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I think we're talking about very rare cases of people

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:17.919
<v Speaker 1>with with with a with a with a mental illness. Yeah,

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:21.720
<v Speaker 1>but but to what extent that is exasperated by ideas

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>that are present in a given culture. I mean, I

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>guess it's open for debate, but I would want to

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I would want to read more about that before I

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>said anything more definitive. But it does serve as it

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.879
<v Speaker 1>like an interesting just side example of like, well, here's

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>an idea of what cold and heat mean. Here's the

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>way it could, uh, in extreme cases present itself. But

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 1>then how does it end up presenting itself in more

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 1>in milder cases, you know, and and and more just

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of uh, you know, ambiently throughout a culture. Another

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>thing I would think would probably be hugely significant that

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 1>we haven't really examined at all is how air conditioning

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>affects fashion. Yeah, like what what people wear in what

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>kinds of spaces, what's acceptable to wear? Yeah, I mean

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I certainly wouldn't think think of it as much as fashion,

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>but like I generally prefer to wear a hoodie. Uh

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and air conditioning allows me to do that year round,

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you know. Climate control allows me to do it year round.

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>But then artificial climate tends to demand that you do it,

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, so you generally, you know, if you especially

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 1>if you have an office job, you're having to dress

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 1>for an artificial environment and then also perhaps for the

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>environment that exists between the artificial environments that you spend

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 1>your time. Our office environment is very strange because you

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>get um so it's like artificially cold of course in

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the summer because it's air condition but then at certain

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>times of day, if you're by the window, you become

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.880
<v Speaker 1>an ant under the magnifying glass and that totally throws

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 1>everything off too. Yeah, yeah, this is I don't think

0:45:55.400 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>there's any like passive solar design employed here. And then

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 1>of course the studios themselves get really hot. Sometimes the

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 1>studios here are that sweaty growing you mentioned earlier. Well,

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 1>there you have an air conditioning A three partner here. Again,

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>we weren't able to cover everything in the history of

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>air conditioning, or certainly with refrigeration, which is at times

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 1>intertwined with with the history of air conditioning. But hopefully

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:22.800
<v Speaker 1>we touched on some of the key ideas and perhaps

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 1>we've we've presented enough information that will that will, you know,

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 1>make you stop and think about the air conditioning that

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you use in your life, maybe value it a little

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 1>bit more and realize that in many cases you know

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 1>it is it is more of a luxury. Um. But

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 1>we would love to hear from everyone out there, like

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 1>what is your relationship with air conditioning? Have you ever

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>lived without it? Uh? Particularly have you ever lived without

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 1>it in a hot climate? And how you know, what

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>did you do to manage it. We have already heard

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 1>back from some listeners on this, and I'm hopefully we'll

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>get to roll these out on a listener mail in

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the future. Uh yeah. We heard from at least one

0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.839
<v Speaker 1>listener who grew up in India and who talked about

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 1>their experience not even thinking of sweat as a bad

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 1>thing the way most Americans do. Yeah, yeah, there's this

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of American thing to think of, like any any

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:16.800
<v Speaker 1>sweat that is occurring without your consent, is is a travesty,

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, like like sweat is the thing that that

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>happens on my terms. Yeah, I admit I I fall

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:26.439
<v Speaker 1>totally into that gid. Like I am cool with being

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 1>sweaty if I'm like hanging out outside, you know, or

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm working outside or something like that. Can't stand being

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 1>sweaty if it's like what's the word. It's like if

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you're sweaty on your way to work or something, that's

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 1>just the worst. Yeah. Well, we've also had lots of

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.280
<v Speaker 1>media to really drive this home, right, lots of deodorant

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>commercials that really just drive home how gross it is

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.799
<v Speaker 1>to be sweaty. There's something wrong with your body. Yeah,

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I used to buy into that more. Now

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm more of the mind that like like like feeling

0:47:56.400 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 1>sweaty like feels good. Like I think part of that

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 1>was from like sweating on my own terms, But then

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I did enough of that where I'm like, oh, I'm

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>not even like really exerting myself, but it's hot out,

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sweating. It feels good to sweat. Um So, and

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>then of course it's you know, you're not going to

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you're generally not going to smell bad until later anyway,

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 1>like that fresh sweat is not the problem. But I

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:22.320
<v Speaker 1>would also love to hear from anyone about movie theaters.

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>How cold do you like your movie theater? Um? Are

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you one of these people that would prefer to have

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<v Speaker 1>to wear a winter coat? Uh? And then Uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>know we've heard from some folk. When we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the Tingler on our other show, stuff to Bow Your Mind,

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<v Speaker 1>we heard from some people who went to the theater

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day. So I would love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from any you know, older members of the listening audience

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<v Speaker 1>out there that might be able to chime in about

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<v Speaker 1>theaters of old. What was it like going back then

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<v Speaker 1>and in the war between the Chili movie theater and

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<v Speaker 1>the the outdoor Um? Uh, drive in cinema? Which do

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<v Speaker 1>you prefer? Oh, it's got to depend on what you're seeing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's there. Yeah, there's some films that are more suitable

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<v Speaker 1>for the drive in, right. Yeah, let's be movie territory. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw I think I saw the mcgruber movie at

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<v Speaker 1>the drive in. Oh, I guess that. I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good one. I've I've only seen I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>only seen like classic horror films at the drive in.

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<v Speaker 1>Um No. I also saw the Grindhouse Movies at the

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<v Speaker 1>drive in. That was fun, the double feature. We are

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate enough in Atlanta that we do have we still

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<v Speaker 1>have a drive in theater that that folks can go

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