1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and He. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: Armstrong and yedtis hosting a gathering this evening to talk 5 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: without to respond to the Epstein situation? 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 4: Is he working on what? 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: Hosting some kind of gathering of top advisors this evening 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: to talk about how to respond to the Epstein situation. 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 4: I don't know. 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 5: I could ask you that I don't know of it, 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 5: but I think here's the man right here. 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 6: I saw a record today and it's completely fake news. 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 4: We're not meeting to talk about the Epstein situation. 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: And I think the reporter who reported it needs to 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: get better sources. 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 5: That the whole thing is a host is put out 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 5: by the demographs because we've had the most successful six 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 5: months in the history of our country, and that's just 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 5: a way of trying to divert attention to something that's 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 5: total bo okay. 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 4: So there you go. That's uh. 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: I love the way Trump steers into bull House adds Bull. 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean he makes you a wait for. 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 4: The it's it's total bone. 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: It's like, uh, you know, the guy from a Godfather movie. 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: It's like the Sopranos would say. 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: Right, So I guess the supposed or maybe it never 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 4: was Epstein dinner at jd Vance's house with the Attorney 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 4: General in the FBI director never happened. What's going on 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: that I don't know. Yesterday we had some Epstein stuff 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 4: from this woman Jessica Reid Krautz, who I don't know, 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 4: just came to through substack and it was some reporting 33 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: on his house in the weirdness. Remember he had a 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: whole bunch of prosthetic eyeballs on the wall and just 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: all kinds of weird stuff. 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: Well, and he believed in art that made people like 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: intensely uncomfortable. 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 4: So there's a new version of Jessica Reed Krauss's article 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: today with an interview with one of the victims. This 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 4: is somebody that was a young girl who came into 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 4: the orbit and kind of explaining the whole thing with Epstein. 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: I thought this was pretty damned interesting. Epstein victim exclusive. 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: The bond was something like a twisted Mantonesque family. She'd 44 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 4: call us her children and kiss us on the head 45 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: saying good night. She was impressive, speaking four languages and 46 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 4: flying helicopters. The other subheadline before I get into it, 47 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 4: is he treated orgasms like meals to be consumed three 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: times a day, attempting to normalize his actions. He brainwashed 49 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 4: me into thinking my ideas were antiquated and I was 50 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: the odd one. He was pretty convincing. He treated orgasms 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 4: like meals is an odd, odd imagery. 52 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, yes, have to set the table or. 53 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: What And this author who I don't know. Editor's note 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 4: before we get into some of the first person account 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: is as we moved through the many layers of the 56 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 4: Epstein saga based on exclusive material I've gathered over the 57 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: past three years, I'll continue to remind you that what 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: follows might not align with your popular narrative. You may 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 4: find yourself rethinking what you believed about certain people involved, 60 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 4: and I hope you'll approach it with an open mind. 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: When we get to the deeper examination of a g 62 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: dog that's what we call Ms Maxwell because nobody knows 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: how to pronounce her name, Especially when I revisit what 64 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: I witnessed at her trial, much more will come into focus. 65 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: So trying to put all the pieces together over the 66 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 4: multiple Epstein cases and interviews and all that sort of 67 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: stuff anyway. So this is from the one of the 68 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: victims who said, I've turned down interviews with all major 69 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 4: television outlets here in internationally, including NBC News, CBS This Morning, Netflix, BBC, 70 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: Good Morning, Britain, Sky News Australia. I've been stalked at 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: my home and my job by creepy journalists, mostly the 72 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 4: ones from the British tabloids. Mainly, I haven't come out 73 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 4: and told my whole story because one, I don't wish 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: to be clumped in with the other victims of Jeffrey Epstein, 75 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: and as I don't relate them too, I don't trust 76 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: the media's biased interpretation. In three m introvert, so this 77 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 4: person hadn't come forward before. 78 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Interesting that she doesn't want to be bunched or whatever 79 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: she said with the other victims. But I'll wait and 80 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: listen figure out why. 81 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 4: Glaine approached me on my college campus about working for 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 4: her at her home in Palm Beach. I was skeptical 83 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 4: at first, but offered her advice and where to hang 84 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: a job posting she had another young woman with her that, 85 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: coupled with her British accent American's love, was enough to 86 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 4: make me feel I could trust her when she asked 87 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: me to jump in her Mercedes and come check out 88 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: the house. On the way over, she told me she 89 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: had homes all across the world and did not like 90 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: to hire Butler's in Florida because it was too stuffy, 91 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: so she found college girls instead, paying them twenty dollars 92 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: an hour to answer phones and run errands. It seemed 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: like a dream job to me. Just you know, I'm 94 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 4: not to Celia Thunder. But the ability of the groomer 95 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: and the manipulator to exploit people's positive and negative emotions, 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 4: it spans across different you know, scams and exploitation, particularly 97 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: young women. 98 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: But man, I can already see it take in shape. 99 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: Going from making fifty dollars a night waitressing to one 100 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 4: hundred dollars an hour rubbing feet was the beginning of 101 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: the grooming process. 102 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: You'd have to pay me more than one hundred bucks 103 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: to rub anyone's feet, really, especially some of the feet. 104 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: They worked in tandem, him constantly trying to normalize his behavior, 105 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: and her making me feel like a friend, reminding me 106 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: to always be grateful to Jeffrey and to thank him 107 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: for his generosity. They were exceptional at painting. Their world 108 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: is exciting and glamorous, name dropping all the big shots, 109 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: Bruce Willis, Bruce Willis, Ashton Kutcher, Kate Blanchett, Bill Clinton, 110 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey, and they had all the photos to prove it. 111 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: This was the early two thousand, before social media, before 112 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: celebrities were accessible as they are now. They made you 113 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: want to be part of that world, but there was 114 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: a trade off. Sometimes you had to do things you 115 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: didn't really want to do. Interesting though that Maxwell's job 116 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: was to be the affectionate, kind person who didn't ask 117 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: much at all, certainly nothing objectionable, but then would testify 118 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: as the good person, the motherly person, the helpful person, 119 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: that what he's asking of you is just fine because 120 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: he's a great guy, and it's fine, right, And that's 121 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: like good cop perverse cop. 122 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, And if she's nice, if a g dog is 123 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: nice and normal acting, you think, well, she puts up 124 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: with it, so it must not be that bad, right. 125 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: What was Epstein like? Mysterious funny? He loved humor. He 126 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 4: was a deep thinker, a voracious reader, mainly of science. 127 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: I never saw him angry. He was serious, and you 128 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 4: knew he had the power to ruin you. If he 129 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: was ever upset with me, he used his assistance to 130 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: deliver the message that was almost worse. I would say 131 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: ninety percent of the time he was fun and enjoyable 132 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: to be around. The other ten percent just got worse 133 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: with the abuses. The years went on, and his manipulation 134 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: made me believe I wanted it or consented. That's interesting, 135 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 4: soph he's ever upset with you sends somebody else to 136 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 4: mister Epstein's upset. H I was in the circle for 137 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: over five years. There were breaks for different reasons. I 138 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 4: tried to distance myself, but he knew ways of getting 139 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: me back in. And the first year, when one other 140 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 4: girl was quitting as the main assistant, he wanted me 141 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: to take her place. Tons of money, travel everywhere, no expenses. 142 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 4: You just have to be okay with common vernacular for 143 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: oral sex. It also would have required me to drop 144 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: out of school. I told him, psychologically, I can't do it. 145 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: I was still a virgin at the time. Wow, I 146 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: was not comfortable with any of the sex stuff. I 147 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: want sex to be with someone I love, someone who 148 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: I can trust. I told him. He was shocked to 149 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 4: learn about my virginity. I was twenty one. It was 150 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: years of grooming that got me to first lose my shirt, 151 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: then my shorts, then everything else. It would have four 152 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: years in when he stole my virginity. Wow, that's some 153 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: patient grooming right there. Four years to get what the 154 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 4: sick of wanted. What he took. 155 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: He he had other victims to keep him company in 156 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: the same time. 157 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 158 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: It's like developing a baseball prospect from single A until 159 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: they're ready to come to the majors. In a sick way. 160 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: What he took from me, my innocence and virginity and 161 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: so much of my identity was irreplaceable. How he did 162 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 4: it by making me feel like I could trust him 163 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: in that I was special, and then I owed it 164 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: to him for being so generous with me. Man, you've 165 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 4: heard that a million times with people who end up 166 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: in situations like this. They make you feel special. Yeah, 167 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: and that's people who are lacking someone else to make 168 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: them feel special, often in. 169 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: That holiday of course. Yeah, and then accepting a tremendous 170 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: amount of luxury and pleasure from them. Then getting the 171 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: message he kind of owe me. What are you supposed 172 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: to say, Well, You've only flown me to five international 173 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: locations and showed me the most amazing time anybody could imagine. No, 174 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't know you anything. That's very hard for somebody 175 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: to say. I don't quite get this paragraph. I've read 176 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: it several times. I still quite understand it. I've often 177 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: imagined what I would say if I ran into him 178 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: walking the streets of New York pre twenty nineteen. 179 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 4: Do you get it now? For years you treated sex 180 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 4: like it was a transactional, purely physical, with no emotional 181 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 4: or spiritual connections. But look at all these women, with 182 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: their lawsuits and their trauma. He treated orgasms like meals 183 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: to be consumed three times a day. We read that 184 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: part from the beginning, and he was very convincing. I 185 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 4: didn't even truly know what consent was. Rape was something 186 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: that happened in back alleys. This was before hashtag me 187 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: too and this stuff was explained. It was actually when 188 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: Harvey Weinstein was exposed that I could really look back 189 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: and say, you know what, I never consented to any 190 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 4: of this stuff. I was raped. Isn't that interesting? 191 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I don't agree with her exactly. 192 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: In what way. 193 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: To be manipulated into the giving of sex is different 194 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: than rape. I mean, it's by no means morally acceptable 195 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: or good, but it's a different it's a different question. 196 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: I get what you're saying. 197 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's very much like the difference between being 198 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: long conned out of my money and being robbed at gunpoint. 199 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: About g Dog Maxwell, I liked her. She's funny, her 200 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: sense of humor was perverted, but she had a light 201 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: and airy perspective on life. They were very free. Too 202 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 4: many times I witnessed them stripped naked and jump of 203 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: the pool e ocean. She enjoyed having the girls around. 204 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 4: The First time I met her, she was wearing workout clothes, 205 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 4: and every time I saw in Florida she was dressed 206 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 4: very casually. I remember the day I saw in New York. 207 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: She had on a cream sweater, a pleated skirt, and 208 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: pointy boots. She sat me down, gave me a book, 209 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: and told me to always say thank you to Jeffrey. 210 00:10:55,360 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 4: That's weird that comes up so often. So what isxlls 211 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 4: deal is she kind of under the sway of him 212 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 4: also in a like a really subservient role. 213 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think she got some sexual pleasure out 214 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: of the whole lifestyle. 215 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: In fact, that was the testimony in the trial. Yeah, 216 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 4: the bond was something like a twisted mansonesque family. She'd 217 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: call us her children and kiss us on the head, 218 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: saying good night to a twenty one year old. She 219 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 4: was impressive, speaking for a language flying helicopters. She once 220 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: invited me over and cooked me dinner, saying she had 221 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 4: been to culinary school. But she was also complicated. I 222 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 4: remember mentioning my hero Princess Die and calling her something. 223 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: I don't quite get this. I remember mentioning my hero 224 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: Princess Die and ripping into her, calling her selfish and terrible. 225 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 4: I told her I wished to get married one day, 226 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: and she told me to never get married, because humans 227 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: aren't meant to be monogamous. I genuinely respect and slash 228 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: fear for her. I've read her deposition where they asked 229 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: her if she and I had sex a relationship. She 230 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 4: refused to answer. I can unequivocally say we did not. Well, 231 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 4: that's kind of interesting because I've always wondered, you know, 232 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: I don't quite get what was going on between g 233 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 4: Dog and Epstein and the women. Was she participating in 234 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: all this stuff or not. 235 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: Or I've never heards Yeah, and women. Wow, it's interesting 236 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: that she refused to answer that question. Gallainne Maxwell did 237 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: g dog care? I think care is a tough word 238 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: to define. To truly care for someone, you wouldn't subject 239 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: them to abuse. But then again, she didn't see it 240 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: as abuse abuse. 241 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 4: They both justified their behaviors because the generosity was so great. 242 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: I don't think she truly cared, but I do think 243 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: I do think she liked me. I can only speak 244 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: to my experience. That's interesting in this interview, she's still 245 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: like wrestling with how much the people liked them and 246 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: respected her, and you know that sort of thing. 247 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 248 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: People, these these predators, as we all know, have some 249 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: sort of like sixth sense that the rest of us 250 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: don't have to pick up on people who need that 251 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: validation self esteem boost, right and then and then take 252 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: advantage of it. 253 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: Then their master manipulators once they, you know, become aware 254 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: that you're a suitable prey. 255 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: Right. Anyway, there's more on that later. I'll decide if 256 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: I think it's worth your while. And we got other 257 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 4: news to get to too. If you have any comment 258 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: on any of that text Line four one five two 259 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 4: nine five kftc. 260 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 7: Armstrong, Eddie. That is a complaint that we've heard from 261 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 7: a lot of survivors and victims in recent days and weeks, 262 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 7: is that they feel that they don't have a seat 263 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 7: at the table, and the conversations that are happening, whether 264 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 7: that be here at the White House or Republicans on 265 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 7: Capitol Hill in terms of what they are trying to 266 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 7: do and achieve here with the release of the Epstein 267 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 7: documents that we know lawmakers are seeking. 268 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 4: That was about the supposed dinner meeting that was going 269 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 4: to happen at jad Vance's house last night, which I 270 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: guess didn't occur, talking about Epstein, and then family members 271 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 4: of that poor woman that killed herself who was a 272 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 4: victim of Jeffrey Epstein, were saying that about not having 273 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 4: a seat at the table, et cetera. And we'd just 274 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 4: been reading from an interview transcript with one of the 275 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 4: other victims that hadn't spoken out before, and I'm god, 276 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 4: there's probably over his whole life. There might be thousands 277 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 4: of people out there, right. 278 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's alleged. 279 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly hundreds. By the way, so we refer to 280 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 4: Maxwell as g Dog because we don't know how to 281 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: pronounce her name. This particular victim said, nobody could ever 282 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 4: pronounce her name right. I've never heard her name butcherd 283 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: so badly. The worst I ever heard was gasoline, But 284 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: so nobody could say your name. Going on with the 285 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: interview about g Dogs and Jeffrey's relationship, which, like I said, 286 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: I've never quite understood. When I first met them, I 287 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: assumed them to be a couple, not because I sensed 288 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 4: any affection between them, but because it was clear by 289 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: the photos and the houses two of them. The two 290 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 4: of them were pictured all over the world, accompanied by 291 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: powerful people. Her portraits were there. There were clearly his 292 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 4: and her separate bathrooms, but I think in New York 293 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 4: she's in her own home most of the time. It 294 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: was a lot to take in on that first trip. 295 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: I wish I could go back and relive it with 296 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: an iPhone so i'd have pictures. While on that first 297 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: trip to New York, I was giving Jeffrey a massage 298 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 4: when he turned over and okay, this gets a I'll 299 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 4: try to be cloud this. I won't use the worst terms, 300 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 4: but this is not for the kids. Obviously. I was 301 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: given Jeffrey a massage. When he turned over and told 302 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 4: me to rub his nipples while he manipulated himself. I said, 303 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 4: I'm not doing this and walked out. We had a 304 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: chat later. He was pretty cavalier, stating I obviously wasn't 305 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 4: comfortable with the sex stuff, but they're going to the 306 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 4: island the next day, and if you want to come 307 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 4: to the island, you need to be comfortable. I said, well, 308 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: I want to come. There's not going to be like orgies, right, 309 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: there were not once there. I still gave him a massage, 310 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 4: probably in a bikini. I was on a hike in 311 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: the Virgin Islands that g dog explained to me why 312 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: the other girls were there. She and him must have 313 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: discussed me and my hesitancy and made it clear to 314 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 4: me that that's part of your job to get these 315 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: kind of massages. It helps calm him down, and that 316 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: you have to do it. Say's part of the grooming process. 317 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: It reminds me of various cults I've heard of too, 318 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: just to all the techniques that they use. That Nexium 319 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: cult that had a great deal of sexual activity going 320 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: on as well. 321 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 4: Right, and she knew Virginia, the woman that killed herself, 322 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: not that long ago and at the time who had 323 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: a similar experience. Boy, it's interesting. So they would all 324 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: talk to each other and kind of discuss how they 325 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: have given into this lifestyle, but talk about the perks 326 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: of it. As she says, there the travel in the world, 327 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: the cash. 328 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes, Katie, do you have something your anxious to throw 329 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: on her? 330 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 6: Just the fact that he was able to pinpoint their 331 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 6: vulnerability and go after it is sick. 332 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: The thing that strikes me about this so far is 333 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: that while it is despicable and less somebody was less 334 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: than eighteen years of age, none of it is illegal. 335 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 4: That's a good point. 336 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: It's just immoral from my point of view. It's probably not, 337 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: from their point of view, terribly gross. 338 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 4: But you're right, we haven't heard anything yet that was 339 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: illegal that I've talked about in that interview. I don't 340 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 4: think so. 341 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 6: Armstrong and Getty a blockbuster deal between ESPN and the NFL, 342 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 6: ESPN revealing it's acquiring the NFL network, including the popular 343 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 6: Red Zone channel. In exchange, the NFL receives at ten 344 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 6: percent equity stake in ESPN. 345 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: Disney CEO Bob Iger. 346 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 6: Saying the deal will deliver an even more compelling experience 347 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 6: for NFL fans. It all launches August twenty first, along 348 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 6: with ESPN's new streaming service. 349 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 4: And the NFL basically starts today with the preseason there. 350 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 4: You know, Thursday night football is a thing, So there 351 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: are three games today preseason games. Now. Most of the 352 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 4: analysis I've read of this for the most popular television 353 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: show in America is the games are going to be 354 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 4: spread out of over more channels than have been in 355 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: the past, and you'll. 356 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: Have to be a more compelling experience according to the commissioner. 357 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: The hell does that mean? 358 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's going to be harder to 359 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 4: find your game, what channel it's on, your favorite team 360 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 4: will be on a different channel every week, or who 361 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 4: knows how that's all gonna work. And then there's also 362 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 4: the people have brought up the ESPN. Are they going 363 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: to cover the NFL the way they have in years past? 364 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 4: If you got a player who beat up his wife 365 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 4: last night and or got arrested driving one hundred and 366 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 4: fifty miles an hour in Vegas or whatever the story is, 367 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: are they going to kind of you know, the soft 368 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 4: pedal those stories now. 369 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: Commissioner Roger going to make a little phone call. Hey, 370 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: let's let's keep this one quiet for now, so let's 371 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: go easy on that. 372 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost impossible that that doesn't happen, isn't it. 373 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, would you at least owns the media, I 374 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: mean they already cow tew a little bit. But yeah, 375 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: of course that'll soften the coverage. That's I mean, it's 376 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: not the biggest problem we got in America. But how 377 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: in the heck would you be the news director and think, oh, 378 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: let's go top of every hour, let's do the player 379 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: that beat up his wife last night. No, you're not 380 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: right right, interesting, Michael? Are we ready as metal guy 381 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: tuned up his seven string guitar because. 382 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 4: California is crumbling? That's right, Metal people play seven string guitars. 383 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 4: What do you do with that extra string? 384 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: Shred? Stupid? What else are you gonna do with it? 385 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 4: Okay? 386 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know your alternate guitars with extra strings. 387 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: I can barely master that. I haven't mastered the regular 388 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: one anyway. A trio of story is all reported by 389 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: the fabulous folks at the California Globe about California crumbling, 390 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: and the first one's kind of revisiting. Do you remember 391 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: we talked to a few weeks ago about the behest 392 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: thing that I'd never even heard of. But it's legal 393 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: in certain circumstances. For for instance, GOV gave and some 394 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: of the other officials, but mostly GOV gave to strong 395 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: arm quote unquote donations from various entities to his wife's 396 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: charity or some other things, as we'll hear about in 397 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: return for well, no, not in return for anything. It's 398 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: just because they're generous. And the next week he does 399 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: something incredibly important for the person who made the donation. 400 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: There's nothing to see you laugh, I laughed. 401 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 4: Bribery laws are like prostitution laws. You just realized there's 402 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 4: no way you can stop prostitutions. You just try not 403 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 4: to have the most overt right there on the street 404 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: corner in front of the school, exchange of money for sex. 405 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 4: But you know you can't really stop it. And the 406 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 4: bribery is that way too. You don't want to have 407 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 4: the most overt. Hey, I'll give you one hundred dollars 408 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 4: if you vote one hundred dollars. I'll give you a 409 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars to vote this way. But you know 410 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: you can't stop this sort of thing. A donation to 411 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 4: his wife's charity. 412 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: Right, ask the Biden family anyway, No, kire, Here's a 413 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: few examples for you. Gov Gav used his office to 414 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: try to block a small tribe from opening a casino 415 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: in northern California after taking nearly two million dollars from 416 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: a different group of Indians, a major California political donor, 417 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: which operates its own gambling compound about fifteen miles away 418 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: from the proposed site, they broke around on a one 419 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: billion dollar expansion in twenty twenty three. So he took 420 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: nearly two million dollars at where what charities did they 421 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: go to? Known as Behested payments, not Governor, This is 422 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: not the governor's first rodeo. He accepted more than seven 423 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars from two major law firms in twenty 424 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: twenty one. To do you remember this both create and 425 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: defend his executive order to repeal death penalty rules and 426 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: dismantle the death chamber at San Quentin. He got seven 427 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars from two major law firms. Governor Gav 428 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: behested three and a half million dollars in twenty eighteen, 429 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: the year he was elected governor twenty nineteen, he reported 430 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: behested payments of twelve point one million dollars. 431 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: That casino story should be a bigger story. I wonder 432 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: if that will uh if he runs for president and 433 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 4: there's like a serious race between him and Josh Shapiro 434 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: with somebody, if some other Democrat digs that up because 435 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: that's death. Oh, that one stinks. 436 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: They'll hammer that. But wait, there's more. In twenty twenty, 437 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: during the COVID nineteen pandemic and when the governor's emergency 438 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: powers were greatly expanded, payments to various entities at Newsom's 439 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: be hassed shot up to a whopping two hundred and 440 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: twenty six million dollars, according to data from the state's 441 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: Fair Political Practices Commission. For instance, Fox News reported forty 442 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: five million dollars from Blue Shield to California and Kaiser 443 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: Permanente for his housing initiatives. Those two healthcare giants just decided, yes, 444 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: we will fund your pet project for you out of nowhere, 445 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: and then the governor chose both Blue Shield and Kaiser 446 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: Permanende to help manage vaccine distribution in California. Wow. Between 447 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, United Health donated two hundred and 448 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars to political committees controlled by news who 449 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: later awarded four hundred and ninety two million dollars in 450 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: contracts to United Health subsidiaries in no bid and expedited situations. 451 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: What more about you get the point? 452 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: What I'm hearing is a lot of coincidences with no evidence. 453 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: So the free beacon continues. In April twenty four, a 454 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: few months before Newsom sent his letter to the Biden 455 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: Interior Department about the Indian tribe thingy, the Democratic governor 456 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: requested the grotten ranch area contributed half a million dollars 457 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: to his wife charity. His wife's charity, the California Partners Project, 458 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: And in April twenty five, one month before Newsom filed 459 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: his lawsuit against the Trump administration, he again asked Grotten 460 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: Rnchuria to contribute another half million dollars to his wife's charity. 461 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 4: Not having your wife have a charity is a good one. 462 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: That's a good one right there. 463 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: Well, and what a charity it is, Jennifer C. Sybel 464 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: Newsom's California Partners Project quote champion's gender equity across the 465 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: state and insures our states media and technology industries are 466 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: a force for good in lives of all children and 467 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: of car left gender bending madness advocate, and she also 468 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: produces gender justice films and sells them to California's public. 469 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 4: School Well, even if it was something I agree with 470 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 4: her charity, we all know how the whole nonprofit things work, says. 471 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 4: We've explained many many times. It's nonprofit, just part of 472 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: your You know, you're running the place. What are you 473 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: supposed to provide your own car to go to the 474 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 4: various meetings? Now the charity provides a car in the hotel, 475 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: and the food in the flight and all the different things. 476 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: But that's enough of that. How about some of this? 477 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Brian Jones and John Cabotec in the California Grow Globe 478 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: writing small businesses still paying for Sacramento's mistakes. Imagine someone 479 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: breaking your windows, handing you the bill and calling it 480 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: even It's exactly what's happening to small businesses in California. 481 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: While every other state that borrowed federal money to cover 482 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: unemployment costs during the pandemic has paid off its debt, 483 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: every single one, California is still on the hook for 484 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: more than twenty one billion dollar dollars, and instead of 485 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: fixing the problem, progressives in control of the legislature forcing 486 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: small business owners, the very people they shut down during 487 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: the pandemic to cover the interest. It's not just Unferret's outrageous. 488 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: Remember over five years ago when COVID struck, the state 489 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: ordered small businesses to close, in many cases with little warnings, 490 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: sometimes by force, not giant corporations with deep pockets. Family 491 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: run restaurants, hair salons, hardware stores, local gyms, the backbone 492 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: of our community communities. One out of every three never reopened. Wow, 493 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: that's brutal. 494 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 2: I know. 495 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 4: I had a friend who had a small business and 496 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 4: he barely made it. He barely survived. 497 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: Then, as unemployment skyrocketed, California borrowed billions of dollars from 498 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: the federal government to keep jobless benefits flowing. But thanks 499 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: to a broken system, lack of oversight and share in competence, 500 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: the state lost control of the process, paying out over 501 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: thirty billion dollars in fraudulent claims. Money was stolen by 502 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 1: scam artists, criminal syndicates, inmates, tax mayor. Money drained from 503 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: the system at record speed, and to this day, almost 504 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: no one has been held accountable, few arrests, no serious 505 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: effort to recover the money, and now, instead of going 506 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: after the criminals or creating a responsible plan to pay 507 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: off the debt, progressive lawmakers and Sacramento are sending the 508 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: bill to small business owners through higher taxes, higher taxes 509 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: and fees for small businesses. I could get you into 510 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: the details. It's very well reported, and they will escalate 511 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: year after year. 512 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: This is one of the most depressing things you've ever done, 513 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 4: and that is saying that's what I do, That's what 514 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 4: I do. You're afraid I was gonna have a good 515 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: day or what was your deal there exactly? 516 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: I noticed you were kind of buoyant after the last segment. 517 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: I thought this will not stand. And then finally this 518 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: Hector Barajas in the fabulous California Globe, which you ought 519 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: to check on. They do a better job of covering 520 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: California news than anybody I've seen. He writes, by any 521 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: reasonable standard, if someone breaks into your home, they should 522 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: be arrested. Someone moves onto your fire ravaged lane end 523 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: and sets up camp, they should be removed. And if 524 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: someone forges a lease or claims rights to your property 525 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: without a shred of ownership. The law should be on 526 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: your side, but in California and other parts of the country, 527 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: that's not how it works. So this one guy, Luke 528 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: Melchior of Melchior Construction, has been posting these videos showing 529 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: the southern California fire victims who lost everything in the 530 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: wildfires now facing new night nightmare. In Melchior's videos, you 531 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: see trailers and makeshift shelters appearing on burned out lots. 532 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: These people moved in without permission, and law enforcement told 533 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: the residents, sorry, you gotta pursue civil action, meaning these 534 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: families now face spending thousands of dollars and months after 535 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: months after months to reclaim their land or they were 536 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: burnt off of. 537 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 4: So there's a fire, you're ordered to leave, your house 538 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 4: burns down. You finally go back and somebody else has 539 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 4: set up a camper there and you get rid of them. 540 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: In Joe Getty's America, you would tell him you got 541 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: ten minutes to leave, Otherwise me and all my buddies 542 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: are gonna whoop your ass. And if that makes me 543 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 1: a bad person, I'm a bad person. A favor of that. 544 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: But instead they get and I'm sorry, it's a civil matter. 545 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: You got to hire an attorney and start pursuing this 546 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: through the courts. 547 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: It's amazing anybody follows the law since you get screwed 548 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 4: so often in situations like that. 549 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, that is it again. 550 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: This is one of the most depressing segments you've ever done. 551 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's supposed to be angering. I'm sorry, I've 552 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: got to check my bad vibes. Gun. Oh I had 553 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: it set on depressed, not anger. 554 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 4: Sorry now, and they're close friends. You stay depressed long enough, 555 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 4: you turn angry and vice versa. 556 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: Right, either way, you drink. The only way people ought 557 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: to be rioting in the streets. They should be, They 558 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: honestly should be. We're not advocating rioting. Yeah, let me 559 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: rephrase that, by all laws of God and man, people 560 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: should be rioting in the No, that one won't work either. 561 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: How about in all of human history this sort of 562 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: abuse and theft spawned riots, true, which we disapprove of. 563 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: Here at the Armstrong in Giddy show, that was there issue. 564 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: That one we. 565 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 4: Will finished strong. 566 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: The next stretches, Why I on a. 567 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: That is a big cup? You got there, Katie, Your 568 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 4: big dumb cup that is a giant one is that 569 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 4: a forty eight or sixty four forty eight and I 570 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: drink like five of these a day. Good for you, 571 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: so water, uh huh, vodka, whisky. So I posted a 572 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 4: picture of myself in American Eagle Genius last night, trying 573 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 4: to do a joke, as Sidney Sweeney joke. I was 574 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: laying on the floor doing the pose and the denim 575 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 4: shirt and the jeans, and I had my son take 576 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 4: a picture of it, and he was really horrified by 577 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 4: He said, I'm not taking your tender profile pictures. I 578 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: have no idea. He's thirteen. I haven't got the slightest 579 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 4: idea why he's ever heard of tinder, knows what a 580 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: profile picture is. I don't know. Such as the world 581 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 4: of what teenagers talk to each other about, I guess. 582 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 4: But so somebody took that photo of me lying sexually 583 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 4: on the floor and turned it into an AI video. 584 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: Did you look at that, Joe? 585 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: I did? It is disturbing, isn't it? And so incredibly convincing. 586 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 4: So I've seen a lot of AI videos, we all have, 587 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 4: and they're you know, they weird you out, you know 588 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: they're fake. But when you see one of yourself, something 589 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: happens in your brain. I mean, it's like, I know 590 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: I didn't do that, and that's not me, but it 591 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 4: looks just like me doing that. It's disturbing. 592 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: Well, it is you. It's your picture manipulated. So if 593 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: it ain't you, who is it? You know what I mean? 594 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: Right? But yeah, well it's just the idea of somebody 595 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 4: could have taken a picture of Well, there's plenty of 596 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 4: pictures of me exist anywhere, you know, as a minor celebrity. 597 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: They're all over the place, So somebody could take a 598 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 4: picture and turn it into video of me doing what 599 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 4: kicking a dog or worse, you know today anything, And 600 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 4: then I got to deny that it's real. It'd be 601 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 4: hard to deny it was real, because the quality on 602 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: that is pretty good, you know. 603 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: You grimacing, It's it's Jack attempting to rise from his 604 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: pose as a would be saxy gene model. 605 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 4: Somebody had made the joke that if I laid on 606 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 4: the floor like her, I wouldn't be able. 607 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: To get up right. And it's Jack rolling on to 608 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: his side and trying to struggle to his feet and 609 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: cursing and grimacing. But as you curse in grimace, you 610 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: got kind of a Bruce Willis look going there. I 611 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: could see you was kind of a cut right action star. 612 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: Even in the gym lately I've cut rate. 613 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 4: I'd say, yeah, well, I don't know. 614 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 1: This is your next chapter. The aging action start Jason Statham, 615 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: the Bruce Willis, God rest him with his health problems. Uh, 616 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm telling you you need an agent. I'll 617 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: be your agent. 618 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: I'm a highly disturbed where AI is taking us. There's 619 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 4: no doubt about that. 620 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: Your roles are going to be humiliating. Just get used 621 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: to that idea. But I think I can get your work. 622 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: And it probably wasn't a pro that did that. Is 623 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 4: just a listener who has one of the apps, you know, 624 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 4: Jack Armstrong and to GETTI final I'm a haunting echo 625 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 4: there of final thoughts. That's where it really. 626 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: Here's back when you had to like produce your own 627 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: song and not have a computer do it for you. 628 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 4: Right, here's your host for final thoughts, Joe getting. 629 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: Let's get final thought from everybody on and the crew 630 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: to wrap things up for the day. There he is 631 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: pressing the buttons in the control room. Michael Angelo, what's 632 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: your final thought? Michael? 633 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 5: After seeing that video, I've got to get better at 634 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 5: the AI stuff. I know chat GPT a little bit, 635 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 5: but I've got to sit down and start creating. 636 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: I got to learn this stuff. 637 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 4: It's fun. It takes a lot less skill than you'd think. 638 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: It's disturbing and weird, but you're right. Yeah, Katie Green 639 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: are esteemed new as woman. As a final thought, Katie. 640 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 7: From another one of Jack's tweets yesterday, all the listeners 641 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 7: looking at your grill are suggesting a gofund me to 642 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 7: get you a new grill or a small table for 643 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 7: your spatula. 644 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, even like a twelve dollars little plastic thing. 645 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: It's at the Walmart or something. Jack a final thought for. 646 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 4: Us, I got the Nazi jeans, the white supremacist eugenic jeans, 647 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 4: and I'm perfectly happy with them. And they're like thirty 648 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 4: eight dollars. I didn't realize you that. In addition to 649 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 4: the fact that she was pitching jeans, just pitching pretty 650 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 4: cheap jeans whatever reasonably priced thrifty. 651 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 1: I like it. My final thought. We didn't really get 652 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: to this story, but I tell you I'm becoming just 653 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: absolutely militant on this topic. Like so many others. The 654 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: article is how letting your mind wander can reset your brain. 655 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: How important it is to just think about nothing in 656 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: particular for significant chunks of your life. Give your brain 657 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: a break. 658 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: Can we talk about that more in the one More 659 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 4: Thing podcast? 660 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: We could? 661 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: That's interesting. Armstrong and Getty wrapick up another grueling four 662 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 4: hour workday. 663 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: So many people who thinks so a little time. Go 664 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: to Armstrong geeddy dot com. Got a lot of good 665 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: hot links for you. Pick up some ang swag, a 666 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: nice t shirt, a had a hoodie. Helps to keep 667 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: everybody on the payroll during these trouble times. And if 668 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: you see something we ought to be talking about, send 669 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: it along mail bag at Armstrong e geddy dot com. 670 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 4: Damn straight see you tomorrow. God bless America. 671 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 2: I'm Strong and Gette study's edition of The arm Strong 672 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: and Getty Show brought to buy our friends that Oh my, 673 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 2: we encourage you to get him je. 674 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: You just got your luck. Don't eat pleasant. 675 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 4: Thank you for that, shoy no comedy anymore, Thank. 676 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 5: You for that. 677 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 4: Bye Bye, Armstrong and Getty.