1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Lay Down with the Dog, 2 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: Wake Up with a flea. Truer words were never spoken 3 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: in the last days. The mistress of a prominent dentist 4 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: and a big game hunter is jailled for seventeen years. 5 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Why because Laurie mill Iron, the mistress of the dentist, 6 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: did everything she could to murder the wife of Larry Rudolph. 7 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thanks for being 8 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: with us here at Foxxination and Serious adem one eleven. 9 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: That's right, all you women out there dating cheating husbands, 10 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: take a listen. The girlfriend of a married dentist and 11 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: big game hunter that traveled all over the world to 12 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: shoot animals dead and stuffed them, who fatally shot his 13 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: wife of thirty four years. A wife of thirty four 14 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: years takes the wife on an African safari and kills her. 15 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: And now the mistress gets seventeen years behind bars as 16 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: an accessory to murder. How did the whole thing unfold 17 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: and what does the mistress have to do with it? 18 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, you think of dentists being meek and mild mannered, 19 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,639 Speaker 1: think again. Listen to this. 20 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: Nine at life insurance Policies totally more than four point 21 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: eight million dollars could be a possible motive for murder. 22 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: Doctor Lawrence Rudolph ran through. 23 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: Rivers Gental for decades, but he's now charged by federal 24 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: agents for allegedly scheming to defraud life insurance companies after 25 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: his wife was shot and killed on a big game 26 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: hunting trip in Zambia more than five years ago. In 27 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: a detailed twenty three page complaint, the fence say they 28 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: believe Lawrence murdered his wife, Bianca, with premeditation in such 29 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: a manner that he could falsely claim the death was 30 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: the result of an accident. The claims don't come as 31 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: shocking for Lisa Stanley, who used to work for doctor 32 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: Rudolph in his Green Tree office kind of something. 33 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: I wasn't surprised. As soon as I saw the name, 34 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: I knew exactly who it was, and I thought to myself, yeah, 35 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: I'm not like that surprised. 36 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: Former employees we talked to didn't know Bianca personally, but 37 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: said Lawrence's behavior in the office was alarming. 38 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: I've never been afraid to go to a job until 39 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: this one. 40 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: You know. 41 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: I just was very uncomfortable, very uneasy around him. 42 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: Wow, when people are afraid to go to work, afraid 43 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: of the dentist. So how did Bianca if As Rudolph 44 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: end up dead his wife of thirty four years, That's 45 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: the question. And we often hear of men taking their 46 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: wives or girlfriends on an exotic trip and then somehow 47 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: the girl ends up dead and the man lives. What 48 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: do we know about their trip, their exotic trip to Zambia. 49 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going to commit a crime, that's 50 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: a long way from home to do it. Take a 51 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: listen to our cut three A my longtime friend and 52 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: Collie Jim Ray at Inside Edition. 53 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 5: On the last day of their two week trip, a 54 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 5: gunshot was heard coming from their cabin. Bianca Rudolph was 55 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 5: found dead with a gunshot wound to the chest. According 56 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 5: to the criminal complaint, Her dentist husband told Zambian police 57 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 5: he believed his wife had accidentally shot herself with her 58 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 5: twelve gage shotgun while she was packing up the weapon. 59 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 5: The dentists came under suspicion and after a US empathy 60 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 5: official said he believed that the distance between the muzzle 61 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 5: of the shotgun and Bianca's chest was approximately six point 62 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 5: five to eight feet. According to the criminal complaint. If true, 63 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 5: it would make an accidental shooting unlikely. 64 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: Which opens up a whole can of worms about how 65 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: do you commit suicide with a long gun? Now, believe 66 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: it or not, I've seen a few cases like that 67 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: where the person sits down with their legs extended straight 68 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: out in front of them, like on the floor. They 69 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: point the rifle toward them, the long gun, and they 70 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: actually pull the trigger with their toe. Yes, it's happened, 71 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: but how I mean, how else can you commit suicide 72 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: with a long gun? Or they can caught some type 73 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: of a string or pulley apparatus, so they can pull 74 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: the trigger at themselves with a string, for example, But 75 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: holding a long gun in your hand and shooting yourself, 76 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: that's really hard to do. So how did these two meet? 77 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: To start with? Take a listen to our friends at 78 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: crimeonline dot com. This is Jackie Howard and our cut a. 79 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: Lawrence and Beyonca. Rudolph meet while Rudolph is in dental school. 80 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: Bianca is an undergraduate at the University of Pittsburgh. The 81 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: couple mary in nineteen eighty two, around the same time 82 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: that Lawrence starts a dental firm Beyonca Rudolph joins her 83 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: husband working in the practice. In two thousand and six, 84 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: Rudolph separates from his partners, forming a new dental group, 85 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: three Rivers Dental. In twenty fourteen, the couple moved to Arizona, 86 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: but keep the practices in Pennsylvania. Their net worth about 87 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: eight million dollars. When they aren't working, the couple likes 88 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: to travel worldwide and hunt, especially in Africa. Both Lawrence 89 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: and Bianca are well respected international hunters, with Bianca occasionally 90 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: undertaking excursions without her husband. They become active members of 91 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: Safari Club intern, a prominent hunting organization, with Lawrence serving 92 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: at one time as the club's president. Okay, the way 93 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: I was raised, you don't shoot anything you're not going 94 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: to eat. So I'm just wondering about all the hunting 95 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: at Don't get me wrong. I believe and the right 96 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: to bear arms. While I support gun control in many cases, 97 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: being a victim of gun violence to go hunting is 98 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: covered in the Constitution. And that's not what we're arguing about. 99 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: We're arguing about murder. With me an all star panel 100 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: to make sense of what we know right now. First 101 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: of all, high profile lawyer joining me out of Houston. 102 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: Former Prosecutor Nicole de Boord hotch Globe and you can 103 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: find her at Houston Criminal Defense dot com. Doctor Jorkrawls 104 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: and a boy, do we need a shrink? He is 105 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: a psychologist on faculty at Saint Leo University, consultant with 106 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: the Blue Wall Institute, and author of Operation Soos. Lisa Daddio, 107 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: Former Police Lieutenant Nhave, Senior Lecturer and Director of the 108 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: Center for Advanced Policing at University of New Haven. Doctor 109 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: Tim Gallagher. He is the medical Examiner for the entire 110 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: State of Florida, lecturer University of Florida Medical School in 111 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: Forensic Medicine, and he is the founder and host of 112 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: the International Forensic Medicine Death Investigation Conference. Wow, that's a mouthful, 113 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: and that's just a tiny portion of his resume. But 114 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: first to Alexis Terrestcheate joining me crimeonline dot com investigative reporter. 115 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: You know, Alexis, we've covered so many cases where the 116 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: woman ends up dead and the man miraculously survives the scenario. 117 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: And also, Alexis, we've covered a lot of cases where 118 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: the deaths of these women happen either on the high 119 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: seas or in another country, some little island that meaning 120 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: people have only heard of and can barely find on 121 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: a map. But you know, to commit a crime in 122 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: another country, a murder, when you pick a country that 123 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: has let's just say an underdeveloped police department. Let's say 124 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: this is not the NYPD Homicide Task Force investigating this 125 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: in Zambia. I'm putting the cart before the horses. I 126 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: love to call you on an Alexis test, Chuck, why 127 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: don't we start at the beginning, Tell me everything, don't 128 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: leave anything out, Alexis. 129 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 4: Okay. So Laurence and Bianca, as you said, they have 130 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,359 Speaker 4: been hunting for decades. They take a trip to Zambia. 131 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 4: It is about a two week trip. They leave on 132 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 4: their final day of the trip, early early in the morning. 133 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 4: They are getting ready to leave. All there in a small, 134 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: one bedroom, one bathroom cabin. All of a sudden, a 135 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 4: shot rings out. Lawrence says that his wife was in 136 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 4: the living room, he was in the bathroom. Into the 137 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 4: other room, he sees that she is on the ground bleedings. 138 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 4: He hears the shotgun. So the people from as you said, 139 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 4: you know, it's a hunting trip, it's safari. There are 140 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 4: a lot of people there. Everybody comes running to their 141 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: hut and she is on the ground. The gun, which 142 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 4: is a long barrel shotgun, is sort of tucked a 143 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 4: little bit into a case, like a soft sided travel case. 144 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: Slow down, tell me that part again, part of the 145 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: long gun, which is a rifle is tucked in the 146 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: carry case. Yes, I assume that would be the butt. 147 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: Go ahead, so. 148 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: He What LAWRENCEA. Said is that she was packing up 149 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: the gun because they were getting ready to leave. He 150 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: was in the bathroom. She was packing it up and 151 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: it fired accidentally. She accidentally, somehow, somehow triggered the trigger 152 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 4: and it shot her right in the chest and knocked 153 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 4: her blue, her to the ground. 154 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: So from what you're telling me, she is an experienced 155 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: hunter herself, yes, and would go on safaris without him, 156 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: So she knows how to handle a gun. 157 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: Yes, And in fact, she was the only one hunting. 158 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: She was the only one hunting this time because she 159 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: wanted to kill a leopard. They had a special permit 160 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: for her to kill a leopard and shoot, so this 161 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: was her special trip to kill the leopard that was 162 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: her soul this time. 163 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace, the wife of prominent Dennis 164 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: Larry Rudolph, wife of thirty four years, the mother two 165 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: children by Rudolph, shot in the heart by her own husband, 166 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: Lawrence Rudolph, while the two were away on a hunting 167 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: trip in Zambia. Now Rudolph claimed his wife accidentally shot 168 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: herself while she was packing to head back home. That's right, Rudolph, 169 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: I guess your wife was packing her scope and her 170 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: long gun in her suitcase when she shot herself. How 171 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: do you shoot yourself. 172 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 6: With a long gun anyway? 173 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: I guess you'd have to pull the trigger with your 174 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: toe or set up a very elaborate self shooting process. 175 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 6: Well, that didn't happen. He did it. He did it. 176 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: But then, to make matters the worse, the high profile 177 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: dentist out of Pennsylvania then fraudulently claimed four point eight 178 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: million dollars in life insurance payouts. 179 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 6: According to the FBI. 180 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: Now, his bottle blonde mistress, Lorie Milron is looking at 181 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: hard jail time for helping in this scheme so her 182 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: lover could collect millions of dollars of life insurance. You know, 183 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: there's a special place in h double l for those 184 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: that kill. 185 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 6: For pecuniary or money interest. 186 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, that is very often an 187 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: aggravating circumstance that can lead a murder from being a 188 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: simple homicide to a death penalty case lying in wait 189 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: or murder for a pecuniary or money interest. And that's 190 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: exactly what happened here. Now. Of course, this woman, the mistress, 191 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: tells the judge she's innocent, but the judge announced the 192 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: lengthy sentence was well deserved based on the fact that 193 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: mill Iron encouraged the heinous act. 194 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 6: According to the. 195 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 7: Evidence, Bianca Rudolph was shot in the chest, the bullet 196 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 7: coming from her personal shotgun. Lawrence Rudolph told the Zambian 197 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 7: police he had been in the bathroom when he heard 198 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 7: the gun shot. Rudolph said he found his wife lying 199 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 7: on the ground bleeding and believed that the gun had 200 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 7: gone off while Bianca Rudolph was trying to pack it 201 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 7: into its case. Lawrence Rudolph said he believed the gun 202 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 7: was still loaded from the previous days hunt still loaded. 203 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, any expert marksman does not leave a gun loaded, 204 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: much less pointed towards yourself when it's loaded. Enter doctor 205 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: Tim Gallagher. You know they're now a medical examiner. I 206 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: told you about earlier the medical examiner for the entire 207 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: state off Florida, Doctor Gallagher, could you put in regular 208 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: people talk, Dr Gallagher, what is a trajectory path? 209 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 8: Well, a trajectory path is the path or the track 210 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 8: that the bullet takes when it exits the muzzle of 211 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 8: the firearm. You know, in this case we're talking about 212 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 8: a shotgun, and a shotgun is different than a handgun 213 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 8: and a rifle. In a rifle and a handgun, when 214 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 8: you pulled it trigger once, one bullet comes out of 215 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 8: the firearm. A shotgun is different when you pull the 216 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 8: trigger once. In a shotgun, many many bullets or projectiles 217 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 8: or lead shot come out of the shotgun all at once, 218 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 8: and they come out in a very clustered, tight pattern, 219 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 8: kind of like a bunch of grapes, and then as 220 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 8: they fly through the air, they just spread apart a 221 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 8: little bit more. And judging by how much the projectile 222 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 8: spread apart, you can determine how far those that lead 223 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 8: traveled after it left the gun and hit the body. 224 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 8: So you can determine the range of fire from the 225 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 8: bullet wound or the projectile wounds and your knowledge of ballistics, 226 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 8: so this the area of forensic called ballistics, and this 227 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 8: is typically what they do on a daily basis, check 228 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 8: for range of fire, how far was the victim from 229 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 8: the gun when the gun was discharged. 230 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: Doctor Gallagher, what you just said was like an aria. 231 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 9: It was just. 232 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: Beautiful. I feel like the Mormon Tabernacle choir just let 233 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: loose in this studio. Thank you, Nancy, Thank you listening 234 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: you talk all day long. I bet Jerry's love you. 235 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 8: Come on to come on down to the conference. 236 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: Phrase what you just said and tell me if I've 237 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: got it right. So, with a shot gun, which is 238 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: unlike a rifle or handgun, it's a long gun. It 239 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: shoots out a spray of buttshot, and the closer you 240 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: are to the muzzle, the tighter together the pellets will be. 241 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: The further away ere you get more of the spray, 242 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: it will be a wider gunshot one correct, the sprite 243 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: will be much wind pattern. 244 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 8: You're absolutely right. 245 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: And I guess you would also look for stippling, which 246 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: should be burning on the scan if the muzzle the 247 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: gun is contact, and you would look for gunshot residue 248 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: on the victim's hands. Jump in. 249 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 8: You're right, I mean that's true. But one thing we 250 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 8: have to know here is that the gun may have 251 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 8: been fired through the gun case, and if there's an 252 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 8: intermediary target, the range of fire distance becomes less precise. 253 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 8: You have to adjust to was the gun shot through 254 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 8: the case, what was the case made of cannabis? Was 255 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 8: it made of plastic? Could have been metal in the case. 256 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 8: So all those would affect the range of fire, and 257 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 8: that has to be determined into your equation. 258 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: And it would defuse the pellace understood. I don't have 259 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: any evidence that the gun came pe was shot in 260 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: any way, Jackie know. So, wow, this is quite the 261 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: the You know this, This woman should have been a 262 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: contortionist for the circus because she somehow managed to get 263 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: the butt end of the shotgun in that I'll just say, 264 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: leather carrying pouch or canvas, whatever it was, and shoot 265 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: herself before the muzzle could be put in. Well, that's 266 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: certainly a feat. Lisa M. Daddio for a police lieutenant 267 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: and Haven PD, now Director Center for Advanced Policing. Lisa Daddio, 268 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: how many suicides have you seen with a long gun? None? 269 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 10: It's not It's very difficult to do given a lot 270 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 10: of different things. The length of the barrel, just how 271 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 10: long you would need to be unless you rig it 272 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 10: somehow in order to kill yourself. And so in twenty 273 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 10: years of doing investigations and whether it was me or 274 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 10: the people that worked for me, we never had a 275 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 10: single case. 276 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: Wow, never never once, never once. When you say it 277 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: would be difficult to rig it to commit suicide with 278 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 1: a long gun, how could it be done? You know? 279 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 10: There are well documented cases where people prop it up 280 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 10: in such a way where they like put a string 281 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 10: on the trigger and then they pull the string in 282 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 10: order to kill themselves theoretically causing the gun to go off. 283 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 10: That's been kind of the most common, and then there's 284 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 10: been other like contraptions that they actually make because they're 285 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 10: so determined on killing themselves via a shotgun, which, as 286 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 10: you can imagine, causes catastrophic, permanent and death injuries no 287 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 10: matter where you get it. If you get it center 288 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 10: mass and up, you know, your body, parts of your 289 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 10: or shredded. So those that are really kind of set 290 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 10: on killing themselves utilizing a long gun, a shotgun, her 291 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 10: rifle have designed ways to do it versus where it 292 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 10: would be just much easier with a handgun. But you 293 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 10: can survive with a handgun. 294 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: You know. Another factor, Lisa Daddio, is that the victim 295 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: in this case, Bianca, is only five to four. 296 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 10: So even then it makes it much more difficult. I mean, 297 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 10: unless she has like these super you know, not human 298 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 10: arms that are four feet long. How the heck is 299 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 10: she killing herself and hitting herself in the chest. 300 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 6: Again. I can't say it enough. 301 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: Lay down with a dog, wake up with the flea. 302 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: That's exactly what mill Iron did when she launched into 303 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: a sex affair with a married dentist, a married dennist 304 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: of thirty four years and two children. But at trial, 305 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: when graphic images were shown and the family's painful testimony 306 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: came out, the judge denounced that mill Iron. The judge 307 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: announced mill Iron seemed remorseless. She didn't care about the 308 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: photos of a dead body. She didn't care about the 309 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: family's suffering and pain. She's also convicted of false misleading 310 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: testimony to a grand jury about the money and her 311 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: relationship with Rudolph Well. I can tell you what that is, 312 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: sex sex. The lawyer for mil Iron claimed the prison 313 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: sentence was excessive. You know what I think, I think 314 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: she and her lover should go to jail when the 315 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: victim gets out of her coffin there? 316 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 6: What about that? 317 00:20:54,600 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: The victim Bionca children united in the courtroom with heartbreaking testimony, 318 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: and they told their father's mistress how she destroyed their family. 319 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: The daughter Anna Rudolph, testified that mel Iron plotted to 320 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: eliminate her mother. As a matter of fact, the daughter 321 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: Bianca's daughter Anna said, and I quote Laurie, you have 322 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: taken my parents, but despite everything you've done, you will 323 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: never take my soul. That might be difficult to understand, Laurie, 324 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: because you don't have one. Wow. 325 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 6: That had to her? 326 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: Oh wait, according to the judge, it didn't, because the 327 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: mistress seemingly had no remorse whatsoever. A jury of six 328 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: men and six women sided with prosecutors who stated the 329 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: dentist's pre planned to murder his wife in cold blood 330 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: then launch a new life with mell Iron, his longtime mistress. 331 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: She mill Iron was also found guilty by that very 332 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: same jury of being an accessory after the fact to murder, 333 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: obstruction of a grand jury, and two counts of perjury 334 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: before the grand jury. 335 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 6: How did the whole thing unfold? 336 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: He wanted his wife's body cremated immediately. I know that 337 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 1: Nicole de Board hots Glow, former prosecutor, now high profile 338 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: defense attorney out of Houston. We claim this means absolutely nothing. 339 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: The fact that he wanted his wife's body cremated right 340 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: there in Zambia. Forget about bringing her body home for 341 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: a burial. Uh uh, he wanted to bring her back 342 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: in a plastic bag. Okay, take a listen at our 343 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: cut sea again our friends at crime Online. 344 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 7: Lawrence Rudolph called the US Embassy in Zambia while discussing 345 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 7: funeral options. Rudolph tells official that he wants Bianca Rudolph's 346 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 7: body cremated. She is Just three days after the shooting, 347 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 7: the US Embassy's consular chief alerted the FBI, saying he 348 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 7: thought the situation was moving too quickly, so the chief, 349 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 7: along with two embassy officials, traveled to a local funeral 350 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 7: home to take photos of the body to preserve evidence. 351 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 7: During the funeral home visit, doctor Rudolph suggested that Bianca 352 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 7: may have committed suicide. The funeral home visit troubled embassy officials. 353 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 7: The consular chief, a twenty year US Marine veteran told investigator, 354 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 7: said the angle of the wound was straight on the heart, 355 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 7: not angled, as it would be from a self inflicted 356 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 7: shot from a long arm. The chief also pointed out 357 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 7: that the wound did not appear to be caused by 358 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 7: a tight group of pellets. When a shotgunfire's bookshot the 359 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 7: pellets spread out as they traveled to a target up closed, 360 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 7: the pellets would be tight. There were also no gas 361 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 7: burns on the body, which are typical for gunshot wounds 362 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 7: at point blank or near point blank range. The consular 363 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 7: chief also noted that Bianca had a second injury to 364 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 7: the chest, caused by wanting from a shotgun cartridge. 365 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: Now it's really interesting that he immediately wants his wife cremated. Now, 366 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: Nickel Deboord Hotchclobe, you yourself are the one that told 367 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: me that she was Catholic. Now, what does that have 368 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: to do with anything. 369 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 9: Well, her friends and family say that that is not 370 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 9: what she would have wanted, that she would not have 371 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 9: wanted to be cremated. And I've also learned that, in fact, 372 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 9: there was a family member or a close friend of 373 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 9: the couple who tried to talk to him about not 374 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 9: having her cremated, and he persisted. So I think These 375 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 9: are going to be difficult, circumstantial pieces of evidence for 376 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 9: the defense, but they certainly don't mean that he killed 377 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 9: her on purpose. 378 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friend Royce Jones at CBS. 379 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 11: Bianca's death was ruled an accident by Zambia law enforcement 380 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 11: and that Lawrence Rudolph told police he suspected the gun 381 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 11: discharged while she was packing it into its case. We 382 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 11: reached out to doctor Rudolph's attorneys. They all say this 383 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 11: is out rages Doctor Larry Rudolph loved his wife of 384 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 11: thirty four years and did not kill her. They go 385 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 11: on to say that the government is seeking to manufacture 386 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 11: a case against this well respected and law abiding dentist. 387 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: Straight out to Alexis Terestschuk with Crime online dot Com. So, 388 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: Alexis terestschach they had been married thirty four years? Is 389 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: that correct? 390 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 4: They had thirty four years. They had two children together. 391 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 4: One of their adult children actually worked in the dental 392 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 4: practice with dad with Larry Wow. 393 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: Okay, well, surprise, surprise, surprise, As my friend Gomer Pyle 394 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: would say, take a listen to our cut three me 395 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: Jim Murray with Inside Edition. 396 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 5: The investigation was launched after a friend of Bianca's told 397 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 5: the FBIID she suspected foul play because doctor Rudolph was 398 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 5: allegedly having an affair with the manager of his dental 399 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 5: office outside Pittsburgh. The dentist's alleged mistress reportedly gave him 400 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 5: an ultimatum of one year to sell his dental offices 401 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 5: and leave Bianca. 402 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: An ultimatum, Alexis Terreschuk, did you leave a little one 403 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: of the facts out an ultimatum a mistress that he 404 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: works with? I mean, really, could somebody just surprised me 405 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: one time and and not be the secretary or the assistant. 406 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: I remember one case, a husband's having a midlife crisis 407 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: and he starts an affair with the cashier and the 408 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: G and C where he's buying all sorts of vitamin 409 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: supplements to enhance his manhood. You know, surprised me for 410 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: one time for Pete's sake, Alexis a sex affair. 411 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 4: And it wasn't just for a month or two. It 412 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 4: was about a decade. And in fact, he and this girlfriend, 413 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: they traveled out of the country all the time. They 414 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 4: would constantly go to Pablo San Lucas. They went in 415 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 4: twenty ten, they went twice in twenty eleven. They went 416 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 4: again in twenty thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and in July twenty 417 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 4: sixteen before Bianca's jests just a few months later, and 418 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 4: then after she died, just a few short months after 419 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 4: she died. Three months after she died, they went back 420 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: to Cabo again. He and the girlfriend was there. Was 421 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 4: barely a blip of time where he wasn't where he 422 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 4: was mourning his wife dying. 423 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: Tell me that timeline one more time again. 424 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: So Lawrence, doctor Rudolph and the girlfriend. They traveled to 425 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: Cabo San Lucas, which is in Mexico. Beautiful, beautiful resort 426 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 4: on the west coast, very nice. They went in twenty ten, 427 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 4: then they went twice in twenty eleven. They went again 428 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 4: together in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, and then 429 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 4: in July of twenty sixteen, just months before Beyonca's October 430 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen deaths, they went to Coabo Stan Lucas. Then 431 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 4: again in February of twenty seventeen. 432 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: That's right after she's killed, you die, yes, like three 433 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: months after she's dead, he takes his mistress to Cabo. Okay, 434 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: Doctor Joy Crasin, we need a shrink? What is wrong 435 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: with men? Don't they think we'll notice he's taking his 436 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: mistress on an international trip while his wife was just killed. 437 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 12: That's easy to track too, and looking at his thought processes? 438 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: What's wrong with men? That was my question? 439 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 8: Oh well, we're just. 440 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: Why don't you just do what my husband does? I've 441 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: actually given up asking this. When he does something, I 442 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: say what he's wrong with you? And he goes to everything. 443 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: And when he says that, I'm kind of like, there's 444 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: nowhere I can go with that and have to stop. 445 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: It ruins the whole argument everything. I mean, this guy 446 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: is a dentist for Pete's sake? Or is Alexis Tereschuk 447 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: keeps calling him doctor Rudolph, And he doesn't think we're 448 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: going to find out about the sex at the dentist office. 449 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: Oh okay, whoa whoa whoa sex at the dentist office. 450 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: I wish I hadn't even said that. I didn't know 451 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: those three words to be put together, sex and dentist 452 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: office forwards. Oh anything would find out about that, joy grasin. 453 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 12: I don't think he really cared because if you look 454 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 12: at how long he had been doing it and getting 455 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 12: away with. 456 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: It ten years? 457 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 458 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: Is that right, Alexis. 459 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 12: Ten years a routine behavior for him. 460 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 4: Yep, almost a decade at least. They started traveling that 461 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 4: Kabos me Lucas in twenty ten, but they could have 462 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 4: been it may have been longer. That one of his 463 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 4: other employees who left said that the person, the woman, 464 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 4: confessed that they had been together for between fifty to 465 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 4: twenty years, which is almost ton't you know, his entire 466 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 4: time that he was. 467 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: Married, they had been married for thirty four years? What 468 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: did he have a misstress on day one? Alexis? 469 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 4: I mean it seems like, well, I don't know if 470 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 4: he had a different mistress, but this one was very 471 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 4: soon after. 472 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: And can you tell me? Is it true that within 473 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: twelve months, in less than twelve months, he moves her 474 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: into the marital home. Is this true? 475 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: Yes, that is what the investigat determined, And in fact, 476 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 4: people were calling her his new wife. They say they're 477 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: not quite sure if they ever got married, but she 478 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 4: definitely was living with him. 479 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: So in less than a year he's moved her into 480 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: the home and within a couple of months he's taking 481 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: her off for another sex soaked trip to Cabo Wow, 482 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: jury's gonna love that. We're trying to find out more. 483 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: Was it just sex that was the motive? Take a 484 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: listen to our cut to a Melanie Gillespie at NBC. 485 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: Former employees we talked to didn't know Bianca personally, but 486 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: said Lawrence's behavior in the office was alarming. 487 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: I've ever been afraid to go to a job until 488 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: this one. 489 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: You know. 490 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: I just was very uncomfortable, very uneasy around him. 491 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: The FBI said the embassy in Zambia grew suspicious and 492 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: looked into Beyonca's death. FBI agents found those life insurance 493 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: policies were adjusted and updated just a few months before 494 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: their hunting trip. The agent said the primary beneficiary of 495 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 2: each of these policies was a revocable trust established by 496 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: the RUDOLPHS. Honor about April twenty fifth, twenty sixteen. The 497 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: terms of that trust made Lawrence the ultimate beneficiary. Witness 498 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: has told investigators Lawrence was having extramarital affairs, allegedly with 499 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: a former office manager who moved in with him in 500 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: January of twenty seventeen, just months after Beyonca's death. 501 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: Not only that, Take a listen to our cut e 502 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: from Crime online dot Com. 503 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 7: After Beyonca Rudolph died, a friend contacted the FBI in Pretoria, 504 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 7: South Africa, suggesting that Beyonca's death was foul play. The 505 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 7: friend claimed that Lawrence Rudolph was verbally abusive and the 506 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 7: couple had fought over money. What's more, she claimed Lawrence 507 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 7: Rudolph was having an affair. She also pointed out that 508 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 7: Beyonca Rudolph was a strict Catholic and would not have 509 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 7: wanted to be cremated. 510 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: Would not have wanted to be cremated, And what better 511 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: place to commit a murder than far far away from home? 512 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: What about at least foreign police Lieutenant now director of 513 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: the Center for Advanced Policing. Why is it when couples 514 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: go away suddenly the woman ends up dead and the 515 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: husband makes it. 516 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 10: Home easier to get away with in countries Like I 517 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 10: hate to say, but in certain countries it's so much 518 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 10: easier to get away with that type of crime. 519 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: Why do you hate to say? It is true because 520 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: their police forces are not used to investigating homicides. It's 521 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: just that simple. Like where I grew up in Bibb County, 522 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: out in the middle of Middle Georgia, there were many 523 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: less homicides than are in New York City or in 524 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: inner city Atlanta. The reality is detectives are trained in 525 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: the field, and when they don't see a lot of 526 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: complicated homicides, then they don't know how to investigate them. 527 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: It's just it's not a slight in any way. It's reality, 528 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: Lisa Daddio. 529 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 10: You're right, Nancy, and so that's why we're seeing it 530 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 10: happen outside of the United States. Laws are different, penalties 531 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 10: are different, investigative techniques are different, and in this case, 532 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 10: it was believed he got away with murder. 533 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just thinking about the way this whole 534 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: thing went down. Take a listen to our. 535 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 7: Cut d The consular chief estimated that Bianca Rudolph had 536 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 7: been shot from between six and a half and eight 537 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 7: feet away. A separate inquiry by a Colorado medical examiner 538 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 7: concluded that it would be physically impossible to accidentally fire 539 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 7: the shotgun in its carrying case and produce an entrance 540 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 7: defect noted on the body of Bianca Rudolph. The medical 541 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 7: examiner determined the tip of the carrying case was at 542 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 7: least two feet away from Bianca Rudolph when it discharged. 543 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 7: What's more, at just five feet four inches tall, it 544 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 7: would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, for Bianca Rudolph 545 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 7: to reach the trigger of the weapon, even if it 546 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 7: was placed in the case with the muzzle pressed against 547 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 7: her chest. 548 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Think about what the wife, 549 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: Bianca went through. She was shot with a Browning shotgun 550 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: in a cabin far away from home in Zambia, just 551 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: as the couple were planning to come home. It was 552 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: around five am October eleven. Gamekeepers and scouts hear a 553 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: gunshot come from the cabin. When they get there, they 554 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: find Beyonca lying on the ground with a gunshot wound 555 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: to the chest. Now, of course, the husband claimed she 556 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: did it to herself it was an accident, but prosecutors 557 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: claimed Rudolph murdered his wife to be with mill Iron, 558 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: who would bend his mistress for twenty years? Can you 559 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: believe this? He says he was in an open marriage, 560 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: as I tell my husband, open marriage, open casket. David Lynch. No, 561 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: this woman did not know anything about any open marriage. 562 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: And now she's dead and the mistress is heading to 563 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: jail where she needs to be What exactly happened between 564 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: the longtime sex affair with the office manager and the 565 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: money motive millions of dollars and the forensics. I'm just 566 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: surprised that it was initially ruled to be accidental. How 567 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: did that happen? 568 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 4: Well, there were the investigation was very quickly ended. You know, 569 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 4: he's a very very wealthy man who's obviously been going 570 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 4: on these trips for years and years. 571 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: Do you know how rich people are, The more money 572 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: they have, the more they don't want to share it. 573 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 4: And he well, he did kind of share his money 574 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 4: a little bit, because a witness has come forward and 575 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 4: said that he was actually paying bribes to people in 576 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 4: Zambia who expedite the cremation of his wife. 577 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: Did it work well, did yes? 578 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 4: She got she got cremated very quickly, and so she 579 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 4: and it would have just nothing would have happened. But 580 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 4: the US Embassy, that the person that was contacted in 581 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 4: the US Embassy was very concerned that this was happening 582 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 4: so quickly. So the embassy sent someone to the funeral 583 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 4: home to take pictures of her body. And in fact 584 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 4: they got these photos and these are what are being 585 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 4: used now as prous because and he was curious when 586 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 4: this happened. The officer in fact that he was quote 587 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 4: livid that the embassy staff had taken photos and. 588 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 9: In the investator of his wife's dead body. 589 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: How did it go again, Alexis Tereshak. The funeral home 590 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: gets the body and then what happens. 591 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 4: Well, so the doctor called the embassy and said, my 592 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 4: wife has died. And then he's like, I need to 593 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 4: get her out of the country really quickly. So I'm 594 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 4: very concerned, you know. The consular chief at the embassy 595 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 4: said Lawrence identified himself. He said she died of a gunshot. 596 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 4: And then he said, you know, we got to get 597 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 4: her cremated and out of here very quickly, which seemed. 598 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: A little suspicious. 599 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 4: So the consoler chiefs called the funeral home, and then 600 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 4: the funeral home said, we are scheduling the cremation for 601 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 4: the next day. But this raised the flag for the 602 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 4: embassy employee. He said this he had a bad feeling 603 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 4: about this. He just thought it was going too quickly. 604 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 4: After having a conversation with Larry, who said, you know, 605 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 4: let's go, let's go, let's get it, get her cremated, 606 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 4: let's get her out of here. And so he decided 607 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 4: to take it upon himself, and he took two other 608 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 4: employees from the embassy and they went to the funeral 609 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 4: home and they took the photos. 610 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: And so I'm understanding that the husband, the dentist, was furious. 611 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: You said that also. 612 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 4: Yes, he was quote the livid that they had taken 613 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 4: the pictures of her and the consular chief he said, 614 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 4: come to the embassy. I will meet with you, but 615 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 4: he declined. And so the interesting thing was the dentist 616 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 4: was complaining. He was thinking, it's so good, it's going 617 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 4: to be so hard to take the body back to 618 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 4: the United States. You must you need a leadlined coffin 619 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 4: to do so, and it was a very difficult and 620 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 4: very expensive, and that's why he just wanted to get 621 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 4: her cremated. But they investigated. He has taken many of 622 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 4: these large game animals back to the United States and 623 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 4: they have to be transported in a similar fashion. You 624 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 4: can't just stick them in your overnight bag and stick 625 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 4: them in the cabin of the airplane. So he is 626 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 4: very familiar with dealing with this and it's you know, 627 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 4: it's not easy, but certainly if you wanted to take 628 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 4: your wife's body home, them so that your children could 629 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 4: see them before you cremate mommy, that that was something 630 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 4: that could happen. But he was complaining, saying it was 631 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 4: much too complicated and difficult, even though he'd been doing 632 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 4: it for decades with animals. 633 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: Alexis terresha crimeonline dot Com. Isn't it true that he 634 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: allegedly also paid at least one tour guide to state 635 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: as a witness how the tour guide saw the body 636 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: and their bungalow. 637 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 4: Yes, that is what it claimed that he paid this 638 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 4: tour guide to say that she was on the ground 639 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 4: that the gun was facing and it was just a 640 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 4: few feet away from her. 641 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: Starting around, money doesn't seem to be helping him. Speaking 642 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,479 Speaker 1: of money, you know, the smarter people are, you'd think 643 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: the better they could cover their tracks. Not necessarily true. 644 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: Take a listen to Royce Jones CBS are cut. 645 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 11: Four federal investigators alleged Rudolph killed his wife and had 646 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 11: her cremated in Africa in a scheme to collect millions 647 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 11: in life insurance claims tied to her death. According to 648 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 11: the criminal complaint, Rudolph allegedly made claims through seven different 649 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 11: insurance companies, totaling more than four point eight million dollars 650 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 11: in payouts. Investigators go on to say that Rudolph had 651 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 11: his attorneys use FedEx to mail claim related documents to 652 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 11: one of the insurance companies. The complaint also states the 653 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 11: earliest life insurance policy to cover Bianca was purchased around 654 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 11: nineteen eighty seven, and that the policies in which Lawrence 655 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 11: Rudolph was the primary beneficiary were updated and adjusted in 656 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,959 Speaker 11: twenty sixteen, the same year Bianca died. 657 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: You know, to you, Donna dor Craws in psychologist faculty 658 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: Saint Leo University, to adjust your wife's life insurance policy 659 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: just before a rifle accident in Zambia. Isn't that a 660 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: little bit too much for jury to swallow? 661 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:24,479 Speaker 8: Yeah? 662 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 12: And I think also he put it in a trust 663 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 12: that he controlled. I mean again thinking like you know, 664 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 12: I would consider him, thinking that he's considering he's covering 665 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 12: his tracks by putting it in a trust. Yet you 666 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 12: know the trust is under his total control. 667 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: Anti clousen to our cut one a our friend, Sheldon 668 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: Ingram at Pittsburgh Action News. 669 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 13: In twenty sixteen, It says Rudolph killed his wife, Bianca 670 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 13: Rudolph during an African Safari in Zambia. He told authorities 671 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 13: it was an accidental shooting, as Bianca packed away a 672 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 13: shotgun and went off, but forensic analysis, they say, do 673 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 13: not match that story. And investigators also say Rudolph collective 674 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 13: four point eight million dollars in life insurance after his 675 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 13: wife's death. Those policies were updated the same year before 676 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 13: her death, in October of twenty sixteen. Investigators also say 677 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 13: they were told by a friend of Rudolph's wife that 678 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 13: he had an active affair with another woman at the 679 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 13: time of Bianca's death. 680 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: You know, to Nicole Devard Hodgeglove joining us from Houston. 681 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: The reality is, while this seems very nefarious, how hard 682 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: is it going to be to prove all of this 683 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: ballistics without a body and without the appropriate investigative photos 684 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: and measurements. 685 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 9: That's a great point, And the reality is that I 686 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 9: think this is where the defense team has its strongest argument. 687 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 9: They don't have the ability to go back and analyze 688 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 9: the forensics because there were no forensics. 689 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 4: There were a few photographs. 690 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 9: In photographs can really look different based on perspective, and 691 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 9: that's why you'll see in the complaint the FBI has 692 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 9: spent such a huge amount of time going back and 693 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 9: trying to reconstruct these photographs still though the data just 694 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 9: can never be there. 695 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut five from Pittsburgh Action 696 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: News Tom Garris. 697 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 14: A federal grand jury is charging the owner of three 698 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 14: Rivers Dental with foreign murder and mail fraud. The FBI 699 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 14: claiming that Lawrence Rudolph killed his wife in twenty sixteen 700 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 14: on that hunting trip in Zambia in order to collect 701 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 14: nearly five million dollars in life insurance money. Now, the 702 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 14: FBI also says the owner of the dental practice had 703 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,240 Speaker 14: a long time relationship with a manager. 704 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: At the practice. 705 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 14: That woman is said to have given Rudolph and ultimatum 706 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 14: to sell the dental offices and to leave his wife, 707 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 14: Bianca within a year. 708 00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: The ultimatum, the money, the mistress, the forensics. What does 709 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: it boil down to a federal grand jury or investigation? 710 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: Does not a conviction make well? He was taken into custody? Ultimately, 711 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: take a listen to our cut one. 712 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 13: Doctor Laurence Rudolph owns three Ververs Dental and he greets 713 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 13: all callers with a recorded automated message. But tonight he 714 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 13: is in federal custody in Colorado, accused of murdering his wife. 715 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 13: No one in his five officers are talking, which includes 716 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 13: locations in Greensburg and Green Tree. His arrest is detailed 717 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 13: in a twenty one page affidavit from the FBI. It 718 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 13: details how he allegedly killed his wife to collect more 719 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 13: than four million dollars with a life insurance policy. 720 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: And that's not all. Take a listen to what the 721 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: defense says. Our cut six from KDKA. 722 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 15: Doctor Larry Rudolph's attorneys call this case manufacture, saying it's 723 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 15: so weak they're keeping a nearly seventy year old man with. 724 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: A severe heart condition in jail. 725 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 15: All is part of what they're calling an FBI witch hunt. 726 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 15: In court documents just released, attorneys claimed the couple signed 727 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 15: a prenup saying he wouldn't lose much during a divorce, 728 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 15: and also claiming his dental franchise, Three Rivers Dental, is 729 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 15: valued a close to eight million dollars. Claiming he had 730 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 15: no financial reason. 731 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,479 Speaker 1: To kill his wife, local law. 732 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 15: Enforcement in Africa rolled it an accident and allowed for 733 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 15: cremation days after her death. Now, FBI agents believe Bianca 734 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 15: could not have physically pulled the trigger. 735 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: Investigators believe his. 736 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 15: Wife's life insurance policies, some adjusted in the months leading 737 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 15: up to her death, tell a different story, a nearly 738 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 15: five million dollar story. The dates show doctor Rudolph received 739 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 15: the money in under one month's time. 740 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: He got the money in under one month's time after 741 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: her death. And don't be feeling sorry for this guy 742 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: because he's seventy years old. He's still young enough to 743 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: take his mistress to Cabo for a six soaked weekend Again, 744 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: our friends at crime Online. 745 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 7: Larry Rudolph convicted of first degree murder and mil fraud. 746 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,280 Speaker 7: Rudolf is still in jail awaiting his sentencing. His mistress, 747 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 7: Lorie Milron, now sentenced to seventeen years in prison as 748 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 7: an accessory to the murder of Bianca Rudolph. 749 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: Justice unfolding in a Pennsylvania courtroom. 750 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 6: Goodbye friend,