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Speaker 5: Ye Today our Financial Friday with Tony Kak, the Insider Investor.

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Speaker 5: We have a man behind a company that is bringing

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Speaker 5: the good citizens of the world back to a place

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Speaker 5: that's cozy and familiar and very flexible and everything else,

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Speaker 5: offering a rediscovery of health and wellness that had been

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Speaker 5: previously known but long loss throughout time.

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Speaker 4: Folks.

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Speaker 5: Joining us now is doctor Matt Chalmers, best selling author,

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Speaker 5: renowned public renowned public speaker, and you might have heard

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Speaker 5: him on his Ted Talk folks, and we're going to

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Speaker 5: talk about that as well, where he discussed how medical

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Speaker 5: cannabis could reduce pain. He is a man full of knowledge.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Matt Chalmers is also the president and.

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Speaker 4: Owner of Chalmers Wellness Now.

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Speaker 5: Chalmers Wellness is a full service rehabilitation and recovery facility

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Speaker 5: that offers a wide variety of care for chiropractic, physical therapy,

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Speaker 5: and Eastern medicine nutritional test seeing you guys. Unlike conventional medicine,

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Speaker 5: which focuses on attempting to treat diseases once it occurs.

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Speaker 5: Chalmers Wellness emphasizes improving your health in the effort to

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Speaker 5: reduce the risk of pain and illness in the first place. Folks, Yes,

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Speaker 5: he tries to jump on it before it happens, so

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Speaker 5: you want to jump on Chalmers Wellness.

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Speaker 4: He has been a fort.

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Speaker 5: He has been fortunate to be the center for care

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Speaker 5: for so many professional athletes as well as many medical

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Speaker 5: professionals and their families. Be sure to check out the

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Speaker 5: website Chalmerswellness dot com, follow him on Instagram Chalmer's Wellness

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Speaker 5: to learn more because doctor Chalmers has your back in

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Speaker 5: you guys. If you do look at his website, you'll

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Speaker 5: see so many different treatments from women's health to nutrition, chiropractic,

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Speaker 5: hormone therapy, weight loss, weight game, holistic healing I mean

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Speaker 5: slipping discs, you guys, massage, therapy, sports injuries. So much

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Speaker 5: about what he's doing is on there. You guys, without

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Speaker 5: further ado, please put your hands together for doctor Matt

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Speaker 5: Chalmers in the building. Doctor Chalmers, it was a pleasure

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Speaker 5: to have you look in through your website earlier today

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Speaker 5: and seeing your ted talk I mean no everyday geek

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Speaker 5: off the Street gets into a Ted Talk. Let's just

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Speaker 5: face that. I'm not gonna say I've heard it yet

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Speaker 5: because I haven't. But you know, you just know by

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Speaker 5: the credentials. It's like if you know, you get a

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Speaker 5: job somewhere, you get the dr in front of the name,

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Speaker 5: You've earned that, you get to speak out of Ted talk.

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Speaker 4: You earn that. So congratulations for all the things you doing, Tony.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for being such a highly educated man here,

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Speaker 5: and now we get to see what Tony would look

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Speaker 5: like if you worked out.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It took three minutes and

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Speaker 1: thirty one seconds, guys, that's all it took.

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Speaker 4: I just say they have both heads and the facial hair.

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Speaker 4: But doctor Chalmers got his spoles on him, like jeez, man,

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Speaker 4: I saw him out last night together.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you, bro, it was like rend and Skippy. Man,

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Speaker 5: You guys have the matching bold and facial hair, so

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Speaker 5: it's just kind of funny, exaucept one of you guys

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: So doctor Chalmers, where are you from?

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Speaker 5: Man, Let's get a little bit of background about you

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Speaker 5: before we jump into your firm and everything else that

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Speaker 7: So I'm in Frisco, Texas, originally from Oklahoma, but I've

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Speaker 7: been in Texas for about twenty years and it's been

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Speaker 7: it's been really fun to kind of watch everything grow as.

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Speaker 4: We twenty years. You said, yeah, so did you leave

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Speaker 4: the Sooners and now you're a longhorn.

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Speaker 7: I am not a longhorn, but I'm still still as

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Speaker 7: sooner as went to ou all my pre RECs came

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Speaker 5: So growing up in Oklahoma twenty years as an adult

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Speaker 5: in Texas, it's a good move to make out there

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Speaker 4: What was it like in Oklahoma for you?

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Speaker 7: I don't want to talk on Oklahoma too much, but

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Speaker 7: like I went back to speak twenty years after I left,

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Speaker 7: and it looked exactly the same the.

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Speaker 4: Same year, folks.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it was everybody still doing the same thing.

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Speaker 7: The roads were the same, the buildings were the same,

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Speaker 7: everything the same. It's just been twenty years.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's the same. Guy's missing the same tooth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 7: You know, Texas is great, It's growing real fast. Frisco's

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Speaker 7: becoming the you know, the the financial center of the universe.

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Speaker 4: It's like the Beverly Hills of Texas.

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Speaker 7: It is like we've got tons and tons of cash

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Speaker 5: Of course, the cowboys doing their things out there, and

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Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken, you've worked with quite a few

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Speaker 5: of the Dallas Cowboy athletes and all this stuff. But

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Speaker 5: on a quick tangent. So you moved to Texas by yourself.

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Speaker 7: You married family, So when I moved down, I wasn't married,

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Speaker 7: And that's kind of what happens. I came down here,

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Speaker 4: That's just it was great nice. So you brought your

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Speaker 7: I was and then I ended up meeting my now wife. Uh,

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Speaker 7: we've been married for fourteen years in March, and.

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Speaker 4: So Congress, congratulations. Yeah, that's awesome, that's huge.

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Speaker 8: Dinner early last night, how you met your wife and

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Speaker 8: what happened on that first Uh, as soon as he laid.

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Speaker 1: Eyes on her, I thought to think, that's a phenomenal story.

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Speaker 7: So uh, it's it's kind of a long story. But

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Speaker 7: I got to the point where I was just tired

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Speaker 7: and set them all out, worked on it, and then

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Speaker 7: like that Wednesday, so if I finish that, took it

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Speaker 7: the back of her head, and there's this weird voice

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Speaker 7: in my head that's like, if you don't talk to her,

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Speaker 7: And It's the funny thing is that at the time,

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Speaker 7: I'll just walk up and talk to her. And I

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Speaker 7: like nothing, hey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yea yeah, yah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. That's how

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Speaker 4: I felt last night though at the restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly it. Oh you're chopping it up, right.

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Speaker 1: He's the best that going out.

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Speaker 7: I met ten girls last night. Oh yeah, I love

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Speaker 7: going out with him.

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Speaker 1: He just yeah. I was, man, oh yeah, that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: He's a butterfly for sure.

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Speaker 7: Continued sorry, uh yeah. And so it was funny because

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Speaker 7: to have the James Bond theme song? Is your is

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Speaker 7: I was like, I was embarrassed. I was like sorry.

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Speaker 7: She was was that the James Bond theme song? And

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Speaker 7: that's the first movie I ever saw. Daniel Craig movie

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Speaker 7: We sat, totally missed the movie, sat and talked for

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna marry. And he was like, okay, He's like,

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Speaker 7: you need to not drive home. You're obviously very very drunk.

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Speaker 7: And I was like, no, I'm totally it. And so

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Speaker 5: You know what's funny is when you do find that

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Speaker 5: nothing that means anything, but you cover everything that you

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Speaker 5: guys are about, so you could download all of who

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Speaker 5: you are, and it's just it's such a great feeling,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean when you find that, because

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Speaker 5: I know what you're feeling right there.

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Speaker 1: I've had that feeling once before, ten times last night, right.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, so you know, yes I did, Tony.

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Speaker 4: Are you upset? It was a beautiful thing to watch,

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Speaker 4: It was it was a little fun wasn't it. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure you guys did so, Tony, how did you guys meet?

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Speaker 4: I'm so curious.

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Speaker 1: You know. We met at a networking event.

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Speaker 8: We became part of this executive Mastermind group and if

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Speaker 8: you guys remember, from the very first episode, we did

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Speaker 8: a financial Fridays. I'm a big fan of putting together

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Speaker 8: people from all walks of life, and this is a

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Speaker 8: testimony to that because I would have never had He

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Speaker 8: becomes my doctor, he becomes my blood doctor, because my

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Speaker 1: We become friends.

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Speaker 8: We've done businesses together, consulted on projects together, and little

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Speaker 8: by little, you know, and obviously we had our relationship

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Speaker 8: and then you wouldn't think that cannabis would be part

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Speaker 5: But I've been sober twenty five years off of all

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Speaker 4: As long as it's legal, he'll take it, exactly.

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Speaker 7: Well, the ketamine is legal, and so like what we're

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Speaker 7: just like, you want cocaine now, They're like, no, I'm good.

438
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Speaker 1: How long and how long does that take?

439
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Speaker 7: It depends on the protocol that we're running. It Either

440
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Speaker 7: it takes five days or it can take two weeks,

441
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Speaker 7: depends on if we're going to do psychotherapy like talk

442
00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,479
Speaker 7: therapy in between.

443
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Speaker 4: But I mean that sounds like so little time.

444
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,320
Speaker 5: Well let's jump into this and elaborate a little more

445
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Speaker 5: and explain it a little more. Now we're talking about

446
00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,800
Speaker 5: actual recovery for somebody coming off.

447
00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 7: Of what anything, heroin, any opine, Like we've had people

448
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,600
Speaker 7: who have been cigarettes, cigarettes, like all sort of anything.

449
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 7: Any addiction thing is a It is something we should

450
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,639
Speaker 7: look at with Kettyman function alcohol.

451
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, how about eating, eating dishorder? Yeah, eating has.

452
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,639
Speaker 7: A couple of different problems issues really because it's not

453
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 7: necessarily just the addiction. It's people will eat for emotional security,

454
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 7: and so you have to go through and do That's

455
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 7: where a lot of the mental therapy to talk there

456
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 7: becomes and it helps. But yeah, there's a lot of things.

457
00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 1: The other thing you can.

458
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 5: Wow, he just said emotional Look at emotional Daniel raise

459
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 5: his head raised hand like though, because a lot of

460
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,960
Speaker 5: people and then only that it's top behavior. I think

461
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 5: too as well. It's family dynamic. If you grow up

462
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 5: eating the refried foods and you know, or whatever it is,

463
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:44,880
Speaker 5: that's just bad.

464
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 4: More carbs, cheeseburger exact. No, they're like, you need some

465
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 4: rice and bee.

466
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Speaker 1: There's no mental connection to it.

467
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Speaker 8: It was interesting because he told me I won't do

468
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 8: I won't prescribe anything that I don't try myself. So

469
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Speaker 8: he had a great story where he's telling me he

470
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Speaker 8: had a cup of coffee every day for ten years

471
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 8: at the same Starbucks. He does the drip. The next

472
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 8: day he walks into the Starbucks, He's like, I don't

473
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Speaker 8: want a cup of coffee.

474
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Speaker 1: It breaks his coffee addiction.

475
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Speaker 8: So they answered a question, yes, if it's not fulfilling

476
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 8: an emotional need for him, it was just the coffee

477
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 8: and it broke that.

478
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 4: So yes, it does work an emotional need fulfilling it

479
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 4: and emotional need.

480
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Speaker 5: Still stuck on, you know, because I think it's I

481
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 5: think it's a lot of people's real problem. You know,

482
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 5: I think it's just real dollars. And here's the worst

483
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 5: problem about it. I don't think people even realize it.

484
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 5: That makes it even a worst problem.

485
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Speaker 7: Well, so the big thing is that we had a

486
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 7: patient come in not too long ago again, and everybody

487
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 7: sends me the people they can't figure out. So this

488
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 7: squirrel comes in weird deals. She starts losing weight about May,

489
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 7: and she'd los that about seventy pounds, didn't change her

490
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 7: debt at all, and then she'd gain all over weight

491
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 7: back about September. Nobody could figure it out, and I

492
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,400
Speaker 7: was like, all right. So I looked at all the labs.

493
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 7: I was like, this isn't the lab things. This is

494
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 7: an emotional thing. And I know what's your sexual and

495
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 7: physical trauma. She's like, I don't have any. I was like,

496
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 7: all right. As we start working with her, we find

497
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 7: out that she was raped on July fourth weekend when

498
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 7: she was sixteen, and this is just something her body

499
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,239
Speaker 7: is doing. We we found that and fixed it. Her

500
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 7: weight issues went away. This weird like lose all this weight.

501
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 7: Her body was losing weight as a protective mechanism to

502
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 7: keep her from you know, being damaged again?

503
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 1: Wow?

504
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Speaker 3: Is that is that based off of, like, you know,

505
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,959
Speaker 3: because I know the mind if you hear it right,

506
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 3: So once you hear it, you're you're actually cleaning and

507
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 3: correcting it, right. Is that what you're saying by talking

508
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 3: it out and saying this is where your your you know,

509
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 3: addiction or wherever this is coming from, you know, the

510
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: behavior is coming from. Is it based on because the

511
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 3: brain hasn't heard it physically or is it just because

512
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,959
Speaker 3: it's just naturally putting it up?

513
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 4: How does that work?

514
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 7: So the suppressed stuff happens because there's there's a very

515
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 7: significant trauma that the body is trying to protect you

516
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 7: from sun so it kind of walls it off. The

517
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 7: problem is that you can't wall these things off. What

518
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 7: ends up happening is that you just don't pay attention

519
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 7: to it and it eats that you like a like

520
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 7: a cancer or like a like a poison. So you've

521
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,479
Speaker 7: got to root these things out, figure them out, fix them,

522
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 7: and then you can move on. So that's the big issue,

523
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 7: especially with her that we see we view this this

524
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 7: all the time though, like you know, you have early

525
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 7: childhood traumaffects the way you live for the rest of

526
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 7: your life. If it's not addressed, then it's always gonna

527
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 7: be problematic.

528
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 5: I've had it, you know, and I've been able to

529
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 5: identify it myself, but no one's ever explended the way

530
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 5: you do.

531
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Speaker 4: That's why I kept going into it.

532
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 5: It's been the Fortian theory though, Hasn't it been the

533
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 5: Fortian theory about that when the childhood expresses everything and

534
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 5: now everything's learned and dynamic of everything that we go through.

535
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, if we did a lot of work on that.

536
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 7: Young did a lot of work on that as well,

537
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 7: the positive function, the negative function, and the way it

538
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 7: shapes the shapes the path of the future.

539
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, it's been. It's been.

540
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 7: We've known about it for a long time. We just

541
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 7: haven't been able to do anything about it. Because you

542
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 7: can talk to somebody all day long with their mind's

543
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 7: like I'm not talking about this rape, I'm not talking

544
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 7: about the PTSD, I'm not talking about X, Y and Z,

545
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 7: then you can't do it. That's why the ketemine is

546
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 7: and the psychedelics are so important to go in and

547
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 7: kind of wash that stuff away and let us start again.

548
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 5: So that ketamine and and and uh, mushrooms whatever you

549
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 5: want to take it, wouldn't that be going in towards

550
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 5: that egg diagram in your head with the conscious and

551
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 5: unconscious mind to really get into there and really start

552
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 5: tapping into that unconscious mind because your conscious mind and

553
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 5: is blocking it out, and to choose you that egg diagram.

554
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: I did a little psy psycho psychosynthesis.

555
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 5: I went on a couple of tours back in the

556
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 5: day and learned a few things, and a lot of

557
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 5: therapy too, being sober twenty five years old to therapy

558
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 5: a lot as well.

559
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 4: But I remember hearing that, but I never did.

560
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 5: I just did the therapy and AA and NA and

561
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 5: every other A you could have had in there, and

562
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 5: really opened myself up for vulnerability and getting hypnotized basically

563
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 5: in one of my therapy sessions several actually, which went

564
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 5: deeper into my deeper issues. But I think nowadays which

565
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 5: wasn't really relevant twenty five years ago when I got sober,

566
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 5: wasn't so which My brother went on recently, ayahuasca stopped

567
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 5: style trip and it's changed his fucking life, Oh yeah,

568
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 5: for the better, Like to where I'm tripping that and

569
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 5: I hooked him up with with all the guys that

570
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 5: we know, Jimmy and all these dudes, and I believe

571
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 5: in it wholeheartedly, Like I think it's it's real. Like

572
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 5: even though I'm mister sober guy and everyone's like Joe,

573
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 5: when you're you gonna do it, I'm like, I really

574
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 5: feel like I tapped into my demons. I mean, I'm

575
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 5: not a if I have some type of action that

576
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 5: creates a reaction that I possibly need to search that more.

577
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 4: Maybe I would, but I find it to be anecdotally unbelievable.

578
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 5: But is there going to be this research that's going

579
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 5: to show that ketamine, that psilocybin is really tapping into

580
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 5: that unconscious So.

581
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 7: We had a ton of research in nineteen sixty seven

582
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 7: about how amazing psilocybin was, and then for some reason

583
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 7: it was voted and it was made across the board

584
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 7: like for the who you couldn't even research it anymore.

585
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 7: And then we came out with all the drugs to

586
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 7: treat depression and anxiety and stuff like that. So we've

587
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 7: known for a long time. In fact, the research on

588
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 7: ketymine shows eighty five percent efficacy of breaking addiction and

589
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 7: breaking PTSD. So the ketemine stuff is not only like

590
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 7: it's only it's just anecdotal. We have actual national initude

591
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 7: of health research showing eighty five percent efficacy at fixing

592
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 7: these problems.

593
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Speaker 5: And because I've heard of this, I want to ask

594
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Speaker 5: you your thought on I just recently ran into a

595
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 5: young lady who says she was addicted to kenemine.

596
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 4: So anything that gets too much could be too much.

597
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 5: And it's ironic that I just realized this as she

598
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 5: was telling me, like, oh, I've been so but yet

599
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 5: now she'll do psilocybin a little bit. But she stopped

600
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 5: doing speed and everything else from kenemine, but then started

601
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 5: doing ketemine too much and became misaddicted to kenemine and

602
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 5: doing it rectlly.

603
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, So there's a lot of different ways that you

604
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 7: can get it in. So rechel has a lott of

605
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 7: blood vessels in the in the vassa bolt, and in

606
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 7: the rectum, and so people will take stuff in very

607
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 7: very easily that way. There was a whole big deal

608
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 7: about when I was in college about girls soaking tampons

609
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 7: in vodka and doing it that getting super drunk, and

610
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 7: then they started dying because they got alcohol poisoning. So

611
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 7: they were like, please don't do this. Oh, my god,

612
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 7: it was the funniest thing. Like you walked around campus

613
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 7: and like there's flyers like don't put tampon.

614
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 4: Vodo And I'm like, who did you hear this? Yeah,

615
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 4: maybe we.

616
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 7: Should just let Darwinism take over.

617
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: Who was the first person to try that? And why

618
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: did you try it? Right?

619
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Speaker 7: I don't know if you want to get drunk, sweedy, sweety,

620
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 7: just drink, like get there.

621
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 4: But you know that's crazy. I mean, just think of it.

622
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 5: The heroin I go shoots up between their tools and

623
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 5: I mean, what do you mean? It's it's you know,

624
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 5: we see extremes in all aspects. I just never heard

625
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 5: of somebody putting dampons in vodka, let alone in.

626
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: The college world. You're like, oh my goodness.

627
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 7: If people have too much time on their hands and

628
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 7: they're just trying to find ways of being stupid.

629
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, or try to hide things, you know.

630
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 5: I think, you know, it's funny to me when we

631
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 5: as humans can't just admit what's going on, you know,

632
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 5: and it's sad.

633
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 4: I'm I'm.

634
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 5: My own demon on this, and I think everybody has it.

635
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 5: And I said, you can sit there and you can

636
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 5: almost look at someone and be like this is what

637
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 5: you need to do. And then they're like, well, no,

638
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 5: it's not that's not me and you're like, dude, you're

639
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 5: on drugs, like you're having issues.

640
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 4: And I think finding the ability to take.

641
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 5: Your own action first and admit that you have a

642
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 5: problem is the easiest way to get out of that blumber.

643
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 7: But that's so hardifying the problems before you can never

644
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 7: arrest And so if you don't recognize it the problem,

645
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 7: there's not a chance.

646
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: Sure well, I think that we brainwashed ourselves with believing

647
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: that it's not a problem.

648
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: That is what I'm saying, Like.

649
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 5: Well, because we use that cover up, because that's not

650
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 5: a if I admit that aproartlement that I have to

651
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 5: face it.

652
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 4: I have to look at it. Oh yeah, he can

653
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: do it?

654
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 5: How have it?

655
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 4: Even though we were the victims of it?

656
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Speaker 5: Because usually it goes back to the childhood issues of

657
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Speaker 5: the childhood whatever the trauma may be, you know what

658
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Speaker 5: I mean, call it whatever it is that you go through.

659
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Speaker 5: But if you don't identify it and realize why am

660
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Speaker 1: Why do I react that way?

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Speaker 4: And then when it happened, it could be a time

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Speaker 5: I'm freaking out still why because of the trauma that

666
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Speaker 5: I want to thank everybody around here that makes everything happen.

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Speaker 5: But doctor Chalmers, we can talk on fucking every little

701
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Speaker 5: random thing I can see myself.

702
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Speaker 4: It's really the reason.

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Speaker 5: Why I didn't even go in the office and come

704
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Speaker 5: here earlier to meet with you, because I know I

705
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Speaker 5: can just go and I can't wait to just sit

706
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Speaker 5: down with you and go personal with me and then

707
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Speaker 5: even tap into like what I think I'm going through

708
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 5: because I get told all these brands and I still

709
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Speaker 5: see a therapist, I still see his psy collage and

710
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Speaker 5: I see all kinds of shit right because I'm constantly

711
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Speaker 5: trying to make myself better and you know so, and

712
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Speaker 5: of course I'm separated now, so my wife tells me

713
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Speaker 5: I have a personality disorder and this and that, and

714
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Speaker 5: well you need for sure, for sure, for sure, without

715
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Speaker 5: a doubt.

716
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll have a big personality. I'm not denying anything.

717
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Speaker 4: That's why it's gonna what he just did though, we

718
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Speaker 4: can see it.

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Speaker 3: But it's like as soon as you said, he was

720
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Speaker 3: like boa, but I try to explain that, so the

721
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Speaker 3: other day it was fucking just don't see it.

722
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Speaker 1: He's consistently.

723
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Speaker 7: Exactly, I still consistent with it.

724
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Speaker 4: The disorder stays consistent.

725
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Speaker 1: I mean I don't need to work on it. I

726
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Speaker 1: stayed see, he doesn't.

727
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Speaker 4: Have to work on it.

728
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Speaker 7: And this is why we do the psychotherapy after we

729
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 7: do the Kenemy, because some of these things, if you

730
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Speaker 7: just remove all the anxiety out of somebody's life and

731
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Speaker 7: all the crazy o their life, all of a sudden,

732
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Speaker 7: they be like, how do I how do I move forward? Like, well,

733
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Speaker 7: here's how you can do that. And so that's what

734
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Speaker 7: the psychotherapy is so important for us, to help people

735
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Speaker 7: reintegrate once all this crazy is gone.

736
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Speaker 4: You know, I'll tell you, I think first of all,

737
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Speaker 4: for and this this is just for men. I you

738
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Speaker 4: know that.

739
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Speaker 5: I even well, let's just say for me, I can't

740
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Speaker 5: even speak for anybody else. It's hard to go talk

741
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Speaker 5: to a doctor about anything, you know what I'm saying, like, fuck, I.

742
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Speaker 3: Mean some people don't have a problem with that. I

743
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Speaker 3: hear Joe like, oh, I'm talking to my doctor about this.

744
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Speaker 3: I'm like, what, Like, you know, I think it's it's

745
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Speaker 3: it's something that like it's like, oh, I got a problem,

746
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Speaker 3: you know, you're afraid to go talk to somebody about it,

747
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Speaker 3: you know. And and I don't know why that is,

748
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Speaker 3: but I feel like we as men wait till the

749
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Speaker 3: last fucking minute instead of just you know, working on it.

750
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Speaker 3: And maybe that's just.

751
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Speaker 4: People brothers, not just managed.

752
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Speaker 1: It's both.

753
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Speaker 4: So it's funny why and how do we break that stigma?

754
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Speaker 1: Right?

755
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Speaker 7: So the way that I'm doing it, so like I'm

756
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Speaker 7: working with the charity. I'm working with you know, you know,

757
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 7: first responders and military veterans and stuff like that, and

758
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 7: so like we'll start talking about it, and I'm like,

759
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Speaker 7: you have to do me a favor. If you're gonna

760
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Speaker 7: go through the charity, what I want you to do

761
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 7: is tell me do a podcast with me beforehand, talk

762
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 7: about how bad it is. Then after the therapy, you

763
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 7: talk about how you feel better then, And the reason

764
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 7: that's important is because I need you to do this

765
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Speaker 7: for the all the other veterans. I need to do

766
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 7: this for all your other brothers out there, sure who

767
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 7: you know need to see this so they can get

768
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Speaker 7: through it. The more we talk about it, the more

769
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 7: we make it normal, the more it's like, hey, this

770
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 7: is a thing. You're not broken, you're not defective, you're

771
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 7: not weak, you're not whatever. This is just what happens

772
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 7: to people when some of these emotional things happen. So

773
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Speaker 7: the more we can talk about, the better we can

774
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Speaker 7: get people treated, and the more we can walk down

775
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Speaker 7: the road and get everybody where they need to be.

776
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 7: So we do need to talk about it more, and

777
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 7: we need to get it treated, so we can talk.

778
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Speaker 4: About the trail and the don't even remotely concerns me.

779
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Speaker 5: This is exactly what Joe said, is that you know

780
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Speaker 5: he heard somebody say there is an addiction that with

781
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 5: ketymine or whatever, right, how how often does that person

782
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 5: abuse that and become you know, addicted to that, you

783
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 5: know what I mean?

784
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: And and have you seen that in your study?

785
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 7: We haven't seen any actual real addiction to kedemine. So

786
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 7: it's kind of like cannabis, right, and so, like cannabis

787
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 7: is so non addictive that they had to come up

788
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Speaker 7: with a whole new way of trying to demonize it

789
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 7: by saying it's cannabis use disorder. Because people don't get

790
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 7: addicted to it. They just really like it and keep

791
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 7: doing it. Right, there's a difference between I am addicted

792
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 7: to something I can't keep infatuated with it, that I

793
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 7: really like this, Like It's my example for cannabis being

794
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 7: non addictive is like lots of people, like Rogan, lots

795
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 7: of people do sober October. There's no way you can

796
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 7: be like, I'm gonna do cocaine three times a week

797
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 7: and then just take a month off. That's not how

798
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Speaker 7: that works.

799
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Speaker 1: That's not how and so like.

800
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Speaker 7: I'm down for three months, like people feel a lot

801
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 7: better and they realize that this is what's helping them

802
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 7: and so and they enjoy it, and so they do

803
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 7: it more often. So we haven't seen a lot of

804
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 7: actual addiction with it. We have seen a lot of

805
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 7: I really like it, and I want to continue to

806
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 7: do it because I feel it's safe. But I'm sure

807
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 7: that like psychologically you need to get addicted to anything.

808
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 8: I think it's also the environment you're in, Right, If

809
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 8: you're in a club taking a bag and there's a

810
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 8: hot girl with big tits and you're dancing in front

811
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 8: of her and you're taking it, it's the environment you

812
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 8: remember what it felt like to be on ketamine, whereas

813
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 8: if you're in a therapeutic setting, you're with the doctor.

814
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Speaker 1: You know there's candles and their time wise set.

815
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Speaker 8: Your first experience with ketamine was in a therapeutic setting,

816
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 8: so there's a big difference about the first intake in

817
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Speaker 8: your memory of it.

818
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Speaker 1: Would you say that, oh, absolutely well?

819
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Speaker 7: And the fun thing about the fun thing about the

820
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Speaker 7: treatment is that you're doing levels that are a lot

821
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Speaker 7: higher than you do for fun. Really, like the one

822
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Speaker 7: I did it was fine, I had, it was enjoyable

823
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Speaker 7: while I was doing it, but when I came down,

824
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 7: I got like real nauseous and threw up and stuff

825
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 7: like that, and I did not enjoy that. It was

826
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Speaker 7: funny because like I'm at home, and because again, never

827
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 7: going to ask anybody to do something I'm not willing

828
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Speaker 7: to do, right, Yeah, And so that's why I did

829
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Speaker 7: mine first. And then I'm laying in bed feeling miserable.

830
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Speaker 7: And it's funny because after COVID, my heart had been

831
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 7: screwed up and I could feel my heart beating way

832
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 7: too hard. And that was the first night after I

833
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 7: got home from the Kennemine therapy where I could not

834
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 7: feel my heart overbeating. It dropped my heart rate twenty

835
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 7: twenty points. I was in the low nineties. Now I'm

836
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 7: in the low seventies. Yeah, reset my sympathetic nervous system.

837
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Speaker 7: So it's it's an amazing thing. And I did not

838
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Speaker 7: like it, but I was like, I will do this

839
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Speaker 7: every other day, just gonna keep my heart where it

840
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Speaker 7: needs to be.

841
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Speaker 4: And it's and it's done.

842
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 7: So since then, Yeah, it's been fine.

843
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Speaker 1: One treatment and it's interesting because I'm sorry, how do

844
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: you take it?

845
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 7: So I was doing it IV. So the way that

846
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 7: our protocol is you go in at least the first

847
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 7: two times you do at IV because you're doing high dosages.

848
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 7: We want to make sure that you're not havingny heart

849
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 7: rate issues, you're not having blood pressure issues, you're not

850
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 7: having any any knowledge issues. And then once we kind

851
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 7: of establish how your body handles ketamy and then we

852
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 7: can start shipping it. To you at home. You can

853
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 7: start doing these these therapies and these treatments at home.

854
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 4: How would you do it at home? IV as well.

855
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 7: So we're gonna be able to put the ketymene on

856
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 7: a sublingual strip, same way we're doing cannabis, and so

857
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 7: you can just take it on your tongue that dissolves

858
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 7: in and so we can start treating people that way.

859
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Speaker 4: That's fantastic. Let me let me think this.

860
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Speaker 5: You know, if if is there an overdose on on kenymine,

861
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 5: and is it highly addicted or not addiction?

862
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 7: So so what we're seeing in research is yeah, it's

863
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 7: not very addictive. We don't we don't see addictions to

864
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 7: kenemine that that prominently. And the fun thing is that

865
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 7: so one of the reasons that opioid's alcohol will kill

866
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 7: you or cannabis and ketymine won't is because of the

867
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Speaker 7: way that reacts with the pawns and the ponds in

868
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 7: the brain is responsible for your autonomic respiration or the

869
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 7: reason why you breathe while you're asleep or passed out.

870
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Speaker 7: Kenymine doesn't mess with it, neither this cannabis, which is

871
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 7: why you can take giant amounts of it and still survive.

872
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 5: Because if you fall asleep or whatever and you stop breathing, yeah,

873
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 5: every other in heroine and.

874
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Speaker 1: Make you forget to do all that.

875
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Speaker 8: And gentlemen, I'm going to tell you something because I've

876
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 8: known Charmers now for at least going on, you know,

877
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 8: three four years, uh, spent dozens and dozens of times

878
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 8: vacation together, et cetera. And throughout all of this I've

879
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 8: seen you know, we've touched on it, but I've seen

880
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 8: them perform literally miracles with people that I've sent over

881
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 8: to them, and friends have sent over, and fans will

882
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 8: send parents over and everybody comes.

883
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: Back with clothing reviews.

884
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 8: And again, knowing my story, it's very important to me

885
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 8: to bring somebody on that has integrity, especially when you're

886
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 8: talking about you know, therapies, alternative therapies and claims of

887
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 8: curing things or treating things in a very proactive way.

888
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 8: And a lot of people hit me up, hey, I

889
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 8: want to be on your show out and the show.

890
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 8: It's going to be important for me to bring on

891
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 8: people of integrity, and you brought it up earlier. Not

892
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 8: every Tom Dick and Harry can be on the Ted

893
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 8: Talk That Ted Talk actually dropped last night, coincidentally, after

894
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 8: we'd invited him on the show. I've interviewed a lot

895
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 8: of people, and I firmly believe that this is the

896
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 8: most powerful interview I've ever done. And I think as

897
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 8: the Ted Talk gets on brogan and we're trying to

898
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 8: get Musk obviously is a big fan of psychedelics and ketamine.

899
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 8: I think what he talks about on this Ted Talk

900
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 8: and once this content and he did this test Ted

901
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 8: Talk almost four months ago, the typical Ted Talk comes

902
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 8: out after three weeks. The pharmaceutical industry is afraid of

903
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 8: what he's going to start exposing. Now we mentioned COVID.

904
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 8: During COVID, he provided some therapies that put him on

905
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 8: the radar, that completely shadow band and closed all his

906
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 8: social media accounts. So when people are like, well, who

907
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 8: the fuck is charmers? Now that this Ted Talk is

908
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 8: out there, and now he's like, I don't give a

909
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 8: fuck about it. They want to take my license. I

910
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 8: want to get this message out. I'd love for you

911
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 8: to speak about that.

912
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was really good and funny because it took

913
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 7: me about four months to figure out how to fix COVID,

914
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 7: at least to come up with a successful treatment plan

915
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 7: and we're pulling people out of hospitals to save him.

916
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 7: And what ended up happening was I was like, well,

917
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 7: I got I'm gonna get this information out, So I

918
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 7: put it on YouTube. I put it on you know,

919
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 7: Facebook and stuff like that, and it would last about

920
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 7: seven seconds before it was gone. And then all of

921
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 7: a sudden, like all my like I I was building

922
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 7: my social We're doing pretty well, and all of a

923
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 7: sudden it was dead. And like Twitter, I'm still completely

924
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 7: dead on Twitter. And it was because I put out

925
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 7: information that was it was not supposed to be out.

926
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Speaker 8: A hundred of us took it, and a hundred of

927
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 8: us got treated at one hundred percent efficacy, and he

928
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 8: couldn't talk about it anymore.

929
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: How fucked up is that?

930
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 7: And we treated, we've we've treated. I looked at the

931
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 7: numbers were treated, about four or five thousand people, none

932
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 7: of them die or what covid and and they all

933
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 7: felt great, Yeah, there were they all cured of it.

934
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 7: So COVID is an interesting bag because it doesn't really

935
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 7: go away. It's more like herpes. Once it's in, it's

936
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 7: going to be in for a long time. But the

937
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 7: acute issues where they couldn't breathe. They had pul sooxes.

938
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 7: In the high seventies, low eighties, we were able to

939
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 7: fix that pretty quickly, and so we were able to

940
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 7: recover these people then build them back up, and now

941
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 7: we're starting to break down those bike proteins and flush amount.

942
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: Of the body. So they also had a protocol. If

943
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: you've never got COVID, but yeah, it is king.

944
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 5: You've explained the protocol now for those that were sick

945
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 5: that you were putting out there.

946
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

947
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 7: Sure. So what ended up happening was I started reading

948
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 7: all the notes, started looking at all the patients, and

949
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 7: I ended up having COVID. And so what I recognized

950
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 7: was that the ventilators were a horrible idea because everybody

951
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 7: could still breathe. So oxygenation to the body has two parts.

952
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 7: One is actually breathing, which is bringing the air in

953
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 7: and out. That was still maintained in most people. They

954
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 7: didn't also have pneumonia. But what happened was that their

955
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 7: pull sooxes were low. And what that is is the

956
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 7: amount of oxygen's in near blood. So it's it's the

957
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 7: same thing as a car. If you look at a

958
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 7: car and the gas tanks full, but the engine doesn't

959
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 7: have any gas. Where do you look look at the

960
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 7: fuel line, Well, that's the blood vessels. And so that's

961
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 7: how I figured out that it was a vascular issue.

962
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 7: And so what I wanted to do is increase oxygenation

963
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 7: of the tissue. Hyperbaric oxygen allows for one thousand percent

964
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 7: increase in oxygenation of the tissue. So we started using

965
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 7: hyperbaric oxygen. But we started using quinine as a blood

966
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 7: dussel dilator, not hydroxychlorquins.

967
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 4: What's quinine?

968
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: What is it?

969
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: So?

970
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 7: Quinine has been used for about five six hundred years

971
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 7: to treat malaria and stuff like that, but it's also

972
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 7: been used for a long time to dilate blood vessels

973
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 7: for like, yeah, production for vasospasms. So the blood vessel

974
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 7: would actually tighten up too much, it would hurt your legs,

975
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 7: so they gave them quinine. It would dilate those blood

976
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 7: veuscles back out and everything would start to relax. That's

977
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 7: why I chose to use it first. We used it

978
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, I give them the quinine

979
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 7: sigma hypbaric chamber. The pul sox is in like seventy seven,

980
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 7: seventy eight, we'd watch it go right back up in

981
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 7: the nineties, and so we do that twice a day,

982
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 7: and that's what we did for everybody who was really bad,

983
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 7: and everybody survived using hyperbaric and quinine.

984
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 5: And their bodies started recovering because the blood flow and

985
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 5: everything else it again, yep, because that was the problem.

986
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 4: The blood flow wasn't happening.

987
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 8: Right when then we guys are not stuck in the

988
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 8: hospital for six months getting all these They would.

989
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 7: Come in the morning and they go home. They come

990
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 7: back in the afternoon, they hit it again, they go home.

991
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 8: Bro, I saw this. I saw this with my own

992
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 8: eyes for six months straight. I knew personally over one

993
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 8: hundred and thirty. You know, he's got his own office there.

994
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 8: He's been there for twenty years, so four or five

995
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 8: thousand and one hundred percent effect, right, come on, and

996
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 8: he doesn't budge numbers, you know, man, the dude's real.

997
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 8: So I'm I'm honored man that that we've chosen you know,

998
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 8: you to be our medical voice of authority on the

999
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 8: show Exclusive.

1000
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 4: It's gonna be final.

1001
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: It's I'm so freaking excited.

1002
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 5: Callers are calling in with you know, scenarios and problems

1003
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 5: and this and that, and we catch me in the

1004
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 5: corner call.

1005
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: In the future we want to do. Hey, doctor, what's

1006
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: this bump?

1007
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 5: There?

1008
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: There's a bump right there. I can stop looking at

1009
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 4: his vagina?

1010
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 8: Blue, Doc, what's the what's the topic of the test

1011
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 8: talk that that you did? For the listeners that haven't

1012
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 8: heard this.

1013
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 7: This one was specifically about replacing opioids with cannabis, specifically

1014
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 7: subbling with cannabis. Subling with cannabis. Cannabis in general can

1015
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 7: replace opioid sixty four percent of the time. Problem is

1016
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 7: we weren't able to dose it. With sub lables, we

1017
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 7: can actually dose it. So like I talked about the talk,

1018
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 7: but my son had a plate and six screws remove

1019
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 7: from his arm with surgery, and all I gave him

1020
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 7: were these strips. So I just cut him a little

1021
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 7: bit so he was able to never have any pain.

1022
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 7: But he also never got hot.

1023
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: How old was your son? Ten years old?

1024
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 8: The kid would have had to be on at least

1025
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 8: Norco's or would they have given him that? Man, When

1026
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 8: I got my hernia surgery, this is this interesting. They

1027
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 8: gave me Norcos never taken a Norco in my life.

1028
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 8: Right took a couple of my my belly swalls out,

1029
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 8: it's all purple. I'm like, they're like, oh.

1030
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 4: Wow, oh sorry, he's still on them. Shot shots shot fired,

1031
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: shots fired.

1032
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: I love you that much to you know what I mean.

1033
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 4: That's only.

1034
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 8: Like, But now, man, they gave me so much, and

1035
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 8: I would take more narcos, thinking that's it's the pain.

1036
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 8: Turns out the fucking thing is backing up my bowels

1037
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 8: and I can't ship. So then like, well, let's give

1038
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 8: you another pill. So the pain pill didn't work. Now

1039
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 8: they've been at another prescription pill and they give you.

1040
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:22,959
Speaker 4: And now.

1041
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 8: His ten year old can take it, and now the

1042
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 8: kid doesn't have to take any opioids. And my own

1043
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 8: mom saying things she had neat replacement surgery. All of

1044
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 8: a sudden, Mom's like, hey, I'm still in pain. I'm

1045
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 8: still in pain. We're giving her more pills. All of

1046
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 8: a sudden, my mom my sister's friend was a pharmacist.

1047
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 8: My mom has never taken a drag in her life,

1048
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 8: is afraid of even looking at cannabis anything. Right Tiple

1049
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 8: the old school middle Easter Mom. But then and then,

1050
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, the pharmacist is like, your mom's

1051
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 8: hooked on freaking oxies. I'm like, dude, my mom is

1052
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 8: turns out Rain was telling her you have pain, so

1053
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 8: that we she didn't even know, right, So my mom

1054
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 8: scream to me, I don't want anymore. We're like, well,

1055
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 8: we can't cut in a half, cut in half, wander down.

1056
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 8: All of a sudden, she thought she needed another. The

1057
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 8: doctor told her, we may have to operate on your

1058
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 8: knee again. Bro, I can't make the ship up, you

1059
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, yea, and imagine now instead.

1060
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 5: Of it, And they're like, go for it because they

1061
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 5: want it more pain, They want more pills, more chars.

1062
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 4: How do these strips work?

1063
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: And how do they because I just had ankle surgery

1064
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 5: last year and I could have used these fucking pills

1065
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 5: or these strips.

1066
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 7: So like, the nice thing about these is that with suddenly,

1067
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 7: well you can actually cut them in half, Like you

1068
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 7: can't really cut gummies in half and get fifty percent

1069
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 7: here and fifty percent there of these you can, so

1070
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 7: it will end up happening. Is that you're like, okay,

1071
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 7: you can take the whole strip and having your time

1072
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 7: are okay? So we made them in Delta eight specifically

1073
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 7: so that we can ship into other states. Like I

1074
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 7: prefer to make a really clean TFC one, but then

1075
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 7: we can't ship them. So as soon as we get

1076
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 7: that will decalization for medical, we'll be able to ship

1077
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 7: these strips everywhere. But you can cut them and so instead,

1078
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 7: like you can take a little piece, and so instead

1079
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 7: of getting high, you can be like, all right, I

1080
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 7: had enough to break my anxiety. I had enough to

1081
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 7: calm down the pane, but I didn't get psychological effects.

1082
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 7: I didn't get the high. So now if you want

1083
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 7: to take the whole thing, you do that you can,

1084
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 7: but just the little tiny strips help out tremendously.

1085
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 8: When you look at him, it looks like a listing strip.

1086
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 8: It's identical to illustry, and it dissolves through your mouth.

1087
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 8: He does have the TFC once for high concentrate. And

1088
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 8: from a medical standpoint, again, for somebody that's coming out

1089
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Speaker 8: of knee surgery, a little Delta eight strip half won't work,

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Speaker 8: But then he has the ability to max out the

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Speaker 8: potency level and put the quiba and of if I

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Speaker 8: don't want to misquote you, but how much could you

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Speaker 8: stick on an the listring strip.

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Speaker 1: If you wanted to max those.

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Speaker 7: Theoretically we could put two hundred and fifty milligrams on that,

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Speaker 7: which is you know, And the thing is is that

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Speaker 7: where people don't understand. They're like, well, it's a ten

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Speaker 7: milligram gummy. Why is your strips hit so much harder?

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Speaker 7: Are they really more than ten milligrams or twenty milligrams? Well,

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Speaker 7: the thing is is that when you when you eat something,

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Speaker 7: it has to go through the intestines and then through

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Speaker 7: the liver. It's called first pass. First pass will eliminate

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00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 7: thirty to sixty percent of what you consumed. If you

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00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 7: do it sublingually, you get like ninety percent of it.

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00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 7: So if you take a ten milligram gummy and sixty

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Speaker 7: percent of it's absorbed, you only get four milligrams coming out,

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00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 7: and this you might get nine milligrams of the ten

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00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 7: and so you're getting more of what you're taking because

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Speaker 7: it goes directly into the system.

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Speaker 8: You can do two hundred and fifty mail grams on

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Speaker 8: a one strip. Yeah, and that would be the equivalent

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Speaker 8: of knocking you out for surgery or like say cancer pain,

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Speaker 8: and what would the cancer.

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Speaker 7: So we're looking to do some research with cancer patients

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Speaker 7: because we really want to start working on some palliative

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Speaker 7: care stuff. One of the one of the docs we're

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Speaker 7: trying to get a hold of, her name is Shwara,

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Speaker 7: she's doing I read her research. She works with Sarah

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Speaker 7: Cannon and she did amazing research on paliative care, and

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Speaker 7: so we're trying to get a hold of her and

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Speaker 7: be like, we want to do some cannabis studies to

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Speaker 7: show efficacy of how much better this is than opioids

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Speaker 7: because these people have cancer. There's a whole string of

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Speaker 7: things we need to change about cancer function, but pain

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Speaker 7: is really one of the biggest pieces.

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Speaker 4: So when you say that, though, I mean, so this

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Speaker 4: one has two hundred and fifty in it right here?

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Speaker 1: No, that is twenty okay, cool.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, you guys are giving out the knockout

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Speaker 5: like that, scaring me and shit, dude, I'm like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we have wor stoners that will take three and

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00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: this is like a big pack.

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Speaker 7: So this feels like there's ten in there.

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Speaker 4: There's ten.

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Speaker 7: So the reason that we did this was because they're

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00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 7: thirty bucks. But if you cut them into thirds, there's ten.

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Speaker 7: There's thirty so you can like, so a third of

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00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 7: that will replace oxy. So like, we had one of

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Speaker 7: our patients who was broken up and she was on oxy,

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00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 7: and I was like, would you try to suppolate this?

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00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 7: So she took a third of it instead of her

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00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 7: ten milli gram oxy, and at the end of the

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00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 7: day she was like, this where I feel like this

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00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 7: better than the oxy. She's like because she's liked my

1145
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 7: anxiety calms down as well, because that's one of the

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00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 7: big things about canabis.

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00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 4: So she took the whole a third, a third of

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00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 4: one of those strips, one of those strips, and.

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Speaker 7: It did the exact same thing pain wise as a

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Speaker 7: ten milligramoxy.

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Speaker 8: I've sent three people but I know personally that are

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00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 8: hooked on oxy's and well they took two strips full,

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00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 8: but they literally got off OxyS by using these His product.

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00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 8: Just friends, you know, not selling them, none of that shit.

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00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 8: We don't push it. It's just people ask me and

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00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 8: I give it to him.

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Speaker 4: You have friends on oxy?

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00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to say, yes, friends, are

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00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: you my dad?

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00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 7: Well, my mom by seventy three year old mom broke

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00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 7: her surnam in a car wreck, and this is all

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00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 7: we gave her for that too.

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Speaker 1: Really. Yeah.

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00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 7: She was like, so you break your sternum, you can't

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00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 7: breathe because you breathe because of your ribs attached to

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00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 7: the sternum. So she was having trouble breathing, and so

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00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 7: I gave her some and she was like, oh, this

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00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 7: makes it completely eliminated the pain so that she could

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00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 7: breathe and she didn't hurt.

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Speaker 8: Wow, and Blue, you know what I love it to

1171
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 8: this morning when we were talking in our meeting. He's

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Speaker 8: doing all this stuff to help people. It's not like,

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00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 8: you know, he has all these ideas and products and

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00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 8: things that are now he's able to talk about him

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00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 8: and now that we can actually say there's a doctor Chalmers, right,

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00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 8: because there's no stigma attached to our socials anymore.

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Speaker 1: Now people are gonna want the truth.

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Speaker 8: But you know, all of this is he genuinely just

1179
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 8: wants to help and he's pissed off that the that

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00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 8: the pharmacy pharmacyicals industry is standing in the way. And

1181
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 8: also the politics of it. You know, we saw it

1182
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 8: with COVID and now we're seeing it with the the

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00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 8: tech talk exposure.

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Speaker 4: So has fout you not your boy?

1185
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 5: Then?

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00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: So to speak, thought to give you bodies.

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Speaker 6: Joe.

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Speaker 3: Joe's like Joe fout you all the way though, I

1189
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: mean Joe's so, I mean, we went through a lot

1190
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 3: of these things.

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Speaker 4: I took the shots. I did it. Yeah, I did.

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00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 5: I did the shot, no more than the shots. So

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00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 5: I mean just you took every word that they said

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00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 5: and just digested it and just was like that's the way,

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00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 5: which far from but you know, I mean, you're still

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00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 5: thinking Trump had nothing to do with what he's being

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00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 5: indicted for and everything else.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, here we go. Yeah, I me and

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Speaker 1: him go back.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying he didn't have anything to do

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Speaker 5: with it. That's what you said, That's what he said

1202
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 5: in the office.

1203
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Somebody needs a delta.

1204
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 4: If not.

1205
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: Yeah. So so listen, first of all, it's been it's

1206
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 5: been fantastic having you on the show, and I look

1207
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 5: forward to again having you on and giving our listeners

1208
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 5: and our you know, fans out there and all of

1209
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 5: our supporters more of education in your field. And we

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00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 5: appreciate you bringing it to cannabis, talking one on one

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00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 5: on find.

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00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 8: They're going to see him, You're going to see him

1213
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 8: in the magazine spread that we're coming out, and the

1214
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 8: third issue where he's also going to have a presence

1215
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 8: of the MJ beiscon with us in our in our

1216
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 8: uh in our tent tent and on Village and.

1217
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 4: On Friday nights he'll be dancing with Tony Yeah at

1218
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 4: the Rusty Putter.

1219
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 5: Now, if you guys really want to get a hold

1220
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 5: of him and ask a question seriously, call us now

1221
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 5: at one eight nineteen eighty and leave a question for him.

1222
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 4: We'll get to answering them maybe on the next Financi Friday.

1223
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going to be and we'll be doing live

1224
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Speaker 5: calls too. We'll give those a heads up. But a

1225
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Speaker 5: lot more shows because there's so many things that we

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00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 5: haven't even tapped in down sports injuries to women's health,

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Speaker 5: which is going to be a big one there where,

1228
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 5: and I want to focus each show on these little

1229
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 5: you know, there's so many different things, and we can

1230
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 5: spend each day a whole hour show on like we

1231
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 5: already did. Now we wanted to go thirty five, we're

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00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 5: already at forty eighteen minutes.

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Speaker 4: It's a natural fifty minutes.

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00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 5: So just like I can go on from weight loss

1235
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 5: to weight gain as you talked about that, and I

1236
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 5: just to mind.

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00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and there's so many things, how many people struggling.

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00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 8: People need real information, People need a voice of authority

1239
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 8: that they can trust. They found it with you, guys.

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00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 8: I'm stoked that this is one of the first, you know,

1241
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 8: experts that we brought in that we really are going

1242
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 8: to stand behind.

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Speaker 1: And I can, I can. I told myself, I'll never.

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00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 4: Stop making claims, okay on the air. It's like that

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00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 4: we can stand behind sell it, Tony, sell it well.

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Speaker 1: You know, Fauci's listening, so I get here. Yes, a thing, man, It's.

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Speaker 4: Good to have you. You know, we look forward to

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00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 4: having you back on the show and it's gonna be

1249
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 4: a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited. Thank you for giving us all that information today, Tony.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being on the show. Joe Grande,

1253
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 3: we love you. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. To

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Speaker 3: remember this if no one else loves you were Thank

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Speaker 3: you for.

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