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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 3: It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network. Questioner and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 3: for the next two hours on a Thursday. As we continue,

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Speaker 3: Matt to navigate the ever changing waters of the NFL

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Speaker 3: coaching carousel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot going on, I mean still now, there's

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Speaker 4: also a bit of a dry spell in terms of

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Speaker 4: the Steelers are a perfect example of this is when

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Speaker 4: you're like interviewing the guys in person that you zoomed

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Speaker 4: with before, or narrowing it down a little bit, or

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Speaker 4: waiting for the rams to get eliminated so you can

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Speaker 4: really do your due diligence on nose type of dudes.

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Speaker 4: So I do think we'll have some action maybe Baltimore,

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Speaker 4: you know, like basically it seems like that one's really pressing.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know that things are gonna happen before

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Speaker 4: the games or anything, you know, for the Steelers in particular,

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Speaker 4: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I like I've been keeping tabs on

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Speaker 3: those Vegas odds things for the next Pittsburgh Steelers head coach,

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Speaker 3: and there's been some.

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Speaker 4: Do they change daily? Daily? Do they?

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Speaker 3: And for most of this week it was Shula one, yes,

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Speaker 3: right on his heels, not much lower McCarthy, and then

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Speaker 3: like a step back, was Flores, and then and then

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Speaker 3: everyone else was the proverbial crazy long shot. Today, as

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Speaker 3: of two hours ago, Chris Shula is still number one,

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Speaker 3: really okay, Nathan Sheel hass, Nathan steel Hass, Yeah, number two,

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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy number three, Sean McDermott number four, and then

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Speaker 3: a massive drop drop off everybody else, so Selhouses taken.

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Speaker 3: Shula is still where he's been pretty much the whole time,

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Speaker 3: shield House taking a clear step up, McCarthy slight step back.

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Speaker 3: McDermott now into the fall at least as at least

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Speaker 3: as a viable name.

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Speaker 4: He's he's a.

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Speaker 3: Six to one odd, which isn't It's not super long,

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Speaker 3: though not super longactly exactly right. Everybody else is thirty

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Speaker 3: four thirty yes, so interesting there as you kind of

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Speaker 3: point to if you want one of these, I don't

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Speaker 3: think I would eat. I certainly wouldn't have a problem

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Speaker 3: with any four of those names. McDermott would be a

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Speaker 3: different conversation.

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Speaker 4: We haven't talked about that at time. It's similar to McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: Similar to McCarthy, albeit he's a defensive guy, not an

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Speaker 3: offensive guy. The thing with McCarthy for me is if

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Speaker 3: he's only your head coach for four or five six years.

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Speaker 3: We've discussed this, but he helps you find quarterback develop

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Speaker 3: your next quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't give Sean McDermott that same benefit of the

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Speaker 3: doubt when he's not the offensive quarterback background guy.

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Speaker 4: Is McCarthy, I'd be more interested in who's your opposing coordinator?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely is a very.

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Speaker 4: Good defensive schemer. By the way, people just look at

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Speaker 4: him like he's a CEO type head coach. He's a

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Speaker 4: very good defensive schemer.

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Speaker 3: With that though, getting back to your original point of

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Speaker 3: if you want one of these rams guys, Shula, Shiel,

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Speaker 3: hass Steel hass uh, you're probably gonna have to wait

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Speaker 3: a few more days. That doesn't mean you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to wait two and a half weeks until the Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl's over. If they be such a good point right,

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Speaker 3: because they'll have that bye week, Yeah, they could fly

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Speaker 3: out the Pittsburgh Monday or Tuesday, have their formal interview,

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Speaker 3: finalize that thing.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget everyone's at the Senior Bowl too. Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes the Senior Bowls can be a little sad. It's

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Speaker 4: almost like guys on the street corner with resumes hire me.

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Speaker 4: I used to be a tight ends coach three years ago,

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Speaker 4: you know, But there everyone's getting It's one of the

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Speaker 4: don't know if the Rams, if they were Super Bowl team,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they would not send their coaches, right and

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Speaker 4: they also never send their coaches.

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Speaker 2: Also, they're a little prickly. They're a little different about

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Speaker 3: But that see, I would think a week from now,

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Speaker 3: we're having a press conference for the Steelers next head coach.

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Speaker 4: You think you think we know by the end of

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Speaker 4: next week.

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Speaker 3: Yes, maybe the press conference is a little too much,

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Speaker 3: because again, if it is Shula or steel hass who

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Speaker 3: If the Rams are still playing, yes they'll be the

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Speaker 4: That's just gonna say. I two thinks I want to

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Speaker 4: to the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine many.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine many. But you know Omarby there, you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean absolutely it will be there. You know, of

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Speaker 4: course I can't. I should know this because I've been

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Speaker 4: doing this a long time. The Steelers could come to

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Speaker 4: if the Rams win, I assume they would stick it

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Speaker 4: out and coach the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Though I totally yeah, it would shock me if it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd be pretty fair. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: That That's the only wrinkle to me is again, so

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Speaker 3: say the Rams win Sunday, because if they lose to Seattle,

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Speaker 2: Becomes a mood point.

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Speaker 3: When you can you can, you can knock it out

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Speaker 3: in forty eight hours or whatever, seventy two hours.

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Speaker 2: But say the.

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Speaker 4: I'd say that's perfectly fine.

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Speaker 3: Perfectly fine, have their formal sit down. They spend a

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Speaker 3: few hours there and it's like, I want this job.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers are like, this is our guy. We don't

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Speaker 4: Let's talk money and contracts and staff and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: You do that, and you get those those tea's crossed

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Speaker 4: And it becomes like the worst kept secret ever?

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Speaker 2: Is it something that you are.

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Speaker 4: Not interviewing anybody else and shifters like this is gonna happen?

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Speaker 3: Is it something that you announced five six days from now?

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Speaker 3: And it's just like, but he's gonna stay with the

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: That's again like, this is.

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Speaker 3: The National Football League. This isn't college This isn't like eat.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know the NFL is eat or be eaten,

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Speaker 3: but you get what I'm saying. It's thirty two teams,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like, oh, well, free agency opens today.

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Speaker 3: So as much as it's slimy, it is a don't

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Speaker 2: The playoff, Yes, because if not, he's gonna have.

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Speaker 4: That's not like he's leaving the Steelers hanging for it.

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Speaker 4: So if it's.

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Speaker 3: The combine is still gonna be the combine. The draft

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Speaker 3: guess the only piece of that, Stuart Milking would be staff.

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Speaker 3: The staff, I guess would be the only piece of that.

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Speaker 3: But again he could make If it's the Rams and

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Speaker 4: So true.

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Speaker 3: True, maybe getting someone like like Shieldhouse on his staff

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Speaker 2: Through some hoops process maybe.

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Speaker 3: But if he wants to take someone from the Vikings

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Speaker 4: Staff, and he could he could work on all that

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Speaker 4: mean those are texts or calls you know he interested, Yes,

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Speaker 4: he probably already is.

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Speaker 2: Probably already is because I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, you don't go And I wouldn't be thrilled if

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, you gotta think about staff.

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Speaker 4: they at least have some names lined up or some

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Speaker 3: Know that should probably be part of your pitch when

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Speaker 3: exactly whenever you sit down with these teams. So again,

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Speaker 3: a lot of moving parts. There still a lot of unknown.

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Speaker 3: But I think we are getting closer and closer to

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Speaker 4: I think he agreed to didn't sign it. Okay, I guess.

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Speaker 3: I guess you're right to be make sure I'm correct

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Speaker 3: on the barbage here. With the caveat being if he

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Speaker 2: Defensive coordinators off the table for him. So if Mike.

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Speaker 2: Can't happen. So it's a return.

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Speaker 3: We now know Flores will either return to the or

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Speaker 3: he accepts another head coaching job.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think Mike McDaniel is the same situation, but

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Speaker 4: I don't know that a thousand percent.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we know Flores is. I'm not sure, Daniels.

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Speaker 4: I saw mixed reports on that part, which makes sense

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Speaker 4: because I kind of worried about the you know, or

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Speaker 4: defense coordinator jobs are filling up or Minnesota was sure

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Speaker 4: like to know right now that doesn't I guess it's

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Speaker 4: a slight indication that he thinks he definitely doesn't have

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Speaker 4: you wouldn't be even going down that road, or he's starting.

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Speaker 2: To work at safety school or something.

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Speaker 4: All yeah, yeah, so we do know. Sure he's worried

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Speaker 4: he'll get shut out on the head guys.

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Speaker 3: Sure, And so basically that kind of and I don't

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Speaker 4: He was just looking at angles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you could.

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Speaker 3: Get someone like McCarthy and Flores, if you could get

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Speaker 3: someone like Steel Hass and Flores. Right well, now, Flores,

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Speaker 3: unless somehow he becomes the head coach here, will not

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Speaker 3: Back on the drive here, rolling along into the phone lines,

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Speaker 2: Buzz. Thank you for taking the time.

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Speaker 3: As always, let's jump right into it, Crystal Ball this

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Speaker 5: Still, you have to think that by now, whether or

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Speaker 5: where unless something completely comes out of left field with it, again,

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Speaker 5: nobody nationally locally knew about. Is the day where there's

444
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Speaker 5: no interview going on this week when in person interviews

445
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 5: are allowed, and you had the three other ones, or

446
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Speaker 5: at least the ones good for tomorrow of course and Tuesday, Wednesday,

447
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 5: and of course the RAMS guys, the two of them

448
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 5: can't be interviewed till next week. So you would think

449
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 5: that just for efficiency and just I don't know why

450
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 5: you would wait like it certainly seems as if it

451
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 5: was we got a Varo. Of course Halfo was already hired.

452
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 5: Who the guys that were interviewed a second interview, But yeah, yeah, yeah,

453
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 5: just yes, just me and career. So those those three

454
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 5: seems as if they apparently got eliminated via the virtual

455
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 5: part of it. So I guess there's always a chance,

456
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 5: and you know this always did. I suppose that these

457
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 5: developments all point to what we thought maybe from the beginnings,

458
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 5: just off that, you know that, And they were the

459
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,959
Speaker 5: first I believe that the first okay, rapid succession there

460
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 5: almost as soon as that press conference inded with Ring

461
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 5: the second last last Wednesday. In terms of Shoehouse, I

462
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 5: think it was the first name who came out in

463
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 5: SHUREA was soon thereafter that the two RAMS guys were

464
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 5: probably going to be the front runners. Now I guess

465
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 5: you're running a risk. I don't know how today's modern

466
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 5: what were the varying degrees a generation that that didn't

467
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 5: grow up with or you know, virtual video conferencing. Let's say,

468
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 5: to make a major decision as a you know, multi

469
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 5: billion dollar company is the face of your organization without

470
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 5: meeting them in person or not? Or how much do

471
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Speaker 5: you know? You know, how much the difference does that

472
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 5: make or how important is that these days? But they

473
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 5: obviously were impressed by both Shoe House and Shula during

474
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Speaker 5: the virtual interviews, and you want to make sure you

475
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Speaker 5: sit down with them, and I guess on the off

476
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 5: chance that deck goes terribly sideways for whatever reason, next week,

477
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 5: you know, maybe everything resets at that point. But yeah,

478
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 5: it certainly seems like now we're you know that we'll

479
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 5: see what happens with Anthony Weaver tomorrow and see if

480
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 5: that got gathered, if he got there's any momentum or

481
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 5: really impresses or anything. But yeah, there's definitely been whittled

482
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 5: down here from what I guess, there were nine nine

483
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 5: formal or interviewed candidate and some capacity up to this point.

484
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Speaker 4: Do you agree that it would be shocking if they

485
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Speaker 4: did anything before the Rams game?

486
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I, like I said, I certainly, I'm not saying

487
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 5: it's for sure. I believe them. They're taking an open

488
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 5: mind and they're not gonna paint themselves into a corner

489
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 5: or anything. But I definitely think there's serious legit interests

490
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 5: in both those guys, and I would wouldn't think they'd

491
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 5: want to close things down. You know, even if whatever scenario,

492
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 5: whether it was Mike McCarthy yesterday Weaver tomorrow, just completely

493
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 5: blows them away and floors them. I don't think in

494
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 5: either of those cases. I guess Weaver has a bunch

495
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 5: of their interviews. But like for instance, to how you know,

496
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 5: you hear about the giants and they kept them at

497
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 5: the restaurant, didn't want to let him leave, and you know,

498
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 5: I wanted to. I wanted to lock him down before

499
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 5: we got to you know, don't let him get on

500
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 5: the plane to go another interview or something. That I

501
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 5: don't foresee that type of scenario here here at all.

502
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 5: So you know, again, I guess there's always a chance

503
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 5: that that's something. You know, maybe they're not completely statisfied

504
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 5: or whatever after you know, we get to the middle

505
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 5: of next week or so. But it certainly looks like

506
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 5: that this is uh, these are these are the candidates we.

507
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: Have in front of us now, Chris A.

508
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 3: Damski with us here on the drive on this Thursday.

509
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: And speaking of candidates, there is a member of the

510
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 3: Steelers organization who is a candidate for a promotion, not

511
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: albeit on the coaching staff, but in the front office,

512
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: Andy Weidel in that vacant Atlanta Falcons general manager chair.

513
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: We kind of discussed this a little bit yesterday, Chris,

514
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 3: but I'd like to get your opinion obviously here today listen,

515
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,719
Speaker 3: we know Mike Tomlin and his exit, Aaron Rodgers and

516
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 3: his potential exit or at least just uncertain future head

517
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: coach and quarterback are going to be the two positions,

518
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: the two roles that demand all the headlines and the

519
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: attention and all those kind of things. But man, losing

520
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: someone like Andy Whitel, I think could be just as

521
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: impactful to the Pittsburgh Steelers as their future head coach

522
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: and as their next quarterback.

523
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of those things where I think if

524
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 5: generally speaking, because of his reputation across the industry, to remember,

525
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 5: he was probably he definitely a finalist, whether he's the

526
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 5: second choice or third or whatever amongst the top two

527
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 5: or three whatever candidates there were to be the Steelers

528
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 5: general manager. And this was only May of twenty twenty two,

529
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 5: But I say only but then, I think it was

530
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 5: generally thought of at the time because he was so

531
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 5: close to getting this job, and because of his reputation

532
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 5: and coming from the Eagles and everything else, that he

533
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 5: would be getting another job at some point, right And

534
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 5: I probably would have put an over under you know,

535
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 5: oh well, within the next four years I'll get another job,

536
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 5: you know, I think, and in that context that's not bad.

537
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 5: That's not a you know, that's that's a that's not

538
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 5: a short tenure. Really it's not a running long tenure,

539
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 5: of course, but it's also not something where he just

540
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 5: you know, made a make cup of coffee or something.

541
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 5: So four years it shouldn't be a total surprise if

542
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 5: he does get does take a general maner job. And obviously,

543
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 5: of course you don't anybody who has ambitions in life

544
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 5: to get get the get the better job, be able

545
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 5: to run an organization like that, and he would of

546
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 5: course want to take that, so you you wish him

547
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 5: well and everything. So but that all being said, the

548
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 5: the the timing, of course is less than idea because

549
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 5: we know we've talked over the past week. I guess

550
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 5: it's takes a lot longer make it's been what nine

551
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 5: days since Mike stepped down. It seems like it's been

552
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 5: about nine weeks, but uh, you know he stepped down

553
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 5: that we talked about how the football operation staff was

554
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 5: staying intact and the you know, the wheel turns as usual.

555
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 5: Everything's going on with the transactions and scouting pro scout

556
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 5: in College Cow all around is going on, you know,

557
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 5: behind the scenes, I guess, and doing as normal. But

558
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 5: so the timing of having if if this comes to

559
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 5: fruition and we'll see at all goes of replacing a

560
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 5: coach and you're doing that whole thing, and the culture

561
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 5: and hiring a staff and getting to know what personnel

562
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 5: they want, what might fit in this scheme and that

563
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 5: scheme and all that certainly less than ideal. If if

564
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 5: you happen to lose the guy that was kind of

565
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 5: your you know, your top in terms of scouting personnel,

566
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 5: guy here, what it would be about, you know, the

567
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 5: three months before the draft.

568
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Andy's a super smart football mind from Libo too,

569
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 4: just like West's partner and your partner there as well,

570
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 4: handsome too.

571
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 5: But we might have the MLB rookie of the year

572
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 5: from Mars, that's true. I guess. We did not have

573
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 5: a executive in the NFL.

574
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: And both both both you know, both school colors are

575
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: blue and gold. Correct, same school colors.

576
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: There, you m Yeah, and you guys, blue is blue

577
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: Devil's blue devils, no idea what blue devils fighting? Planet's

578
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 2: kind of something outer, outer worldly, you know. So yeah,

579
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: so it works for us. It certainly works for us es.

580
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: I'm just Dallas.

581
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: I'm just jealous that Matt played street hockey with Dave

582
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: Filoni growing up. But that's a different conversation for a

583
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 3: different day. A Damski. One of the things that Matt

584
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: and I also discussed yesterday that I'd like to get

585
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: your opinion on. We kind of went through the gambit

586
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty three draft class and talked about

587
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 3: fifth year options, and we were kind of surprised that

588
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 3: a lot more than we thought going into the exercises,

589
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: a lot more clear cut yeses and obviously clearcut nos.

590
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: There were only a couple really that we took time

591
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: and felt like we're a real debate. One of those

592
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: was Broderick Jones, of course, the Steelers' fourteenth overall draft

593
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 3: pick in twenty twenty three, Omar Cohn's first draft pick

594
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 3: as as Steelers general manager. They traded up a few spots.

595
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: I think it was from seventeen to fourteen or twenty

596
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 3: to fourteen something along those lines. Now, with the injury

597
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: of Broderick Jones and not seeing him for the last

598
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: six games of the regular season plus playoffs, the form

599
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 3: of Dylan cook down the stretch and just obviously the

600
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: money that we all know goes into these fifth year

601
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 3: franchise tags. How do you think that decision plays out

602
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: here in the coming weeks, coming months for the Pittsburgh

603
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: Steelers as it relates to Roger Jones' fifth year often.

604
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's kind of you know, well, first

605
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 5: of all, you if you're doing this and you're doing

606
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 5: hate to be cold and what you got to look

607
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 5: at and see make sure he's healthy and everything, and

608
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 5: I assume that's okay, although that's interesting or a different

609
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 5: type of nonlinear type of injury. You know, you kind

610
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 5: of want to make sure everything's healthy and everything. You're

611
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 5: dealing with something like that with the you know, neck

612
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 5: and everything. So that would be I guess the first step. Yeah,

613
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 5: I you know, if he was an injured and he

614
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 5: finished this season as the starter, or you know, I

615
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 5: finished the season you know as usual and played it

616
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 5: out and played you know on I aggregate the way

617
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 5: he did those first eleven games or whatever it was.

618
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 5: Over the final six or seven games, then the even

619
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 5: then it's kind of an evow I think, I mean

620
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 5: I hate to take a I got you drafted who

621
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 5: you knew was going to be Project's not the right word,

622
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 5: it's too strong of a word. But you knew he

623
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 5: was more projectable. You probably need a little more time

624
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 5: to grow into it. He wasn't like thought Tauw who

625
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 5: came in with all that college experience and what do

626
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 5: you have nineteen career starts in college, Brederick Jones. I

627
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 5: believe so you kind of knew from the beginning it

628
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 5: was a longer term lookout right, you know you might not.

629
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 5: You thought, whereas he think, I'm not making this comparison,

630
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 5: you know, to make the comparison. But just as an example

631
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 5: would say, thoughts on you, you thought, maybe, okay, year one,

632
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 5: he could start right away, a year two and three,

633
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 5: maybe by three he's can pro bowler and project Maybe

634
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 5: if you pushed that timeline back a year or two

635
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 5: and then you lost a year, I lost half a

636
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 5: year because an injury, and then of course he didn't

637
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 5: start a lot of games as many games as he

638
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 5: thought maybe in year two. So so your data set

639
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 5: for uh mo, yeah yeah, yeah, So you don't have

640
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 5: a crisp, clean evow with it. You're still kind of projecting,

641
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 5: you know. So I don't know how that affects. You're right,

642
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 5: it's not a slam donkey either way.

643
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: You know.

644
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 5: Part of me says, from a pure football standpoint for

645
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six that you go into camp and you know,

646
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 5: and we'll see how what they do in the draft

647
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 5: or whatever. If they do something in the draft, it

648
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 5: would be I think it even gets kind of conterintuitive

649
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 5: to pick up the option, but which would be due

650
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 5: a few days after the draft's over. But I don't

651
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 5: think you can have the wire that much with it.

652
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 5: But but I would say, you know, from proly from

653
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 5: football for twenty twenty six, you go to kind of

654
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 5: roll the ball out there with him and Dylan Cook

655
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 5: and say you can win the job. So if I'm

656
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: saying that, I guess then I don't know. Then if

657
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 5: you do exercise the option, it's about nineteen million now,

658
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 5: which is these numbers get big now, but now the

659
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 5: CAP's growing so much, it's not as big as you

660
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 5: think on you know, the sticker shock to it to

661
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 5: me a little bit. But at the same time, nowadays,

662
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 5: nineteen million, I'm gonna say it's nothing. You know, it

663
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 5: doesn't really back yeah, yeah, So it kind of just

664
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 5: factors into the cost of doing business, I guess at

665
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 5: that point. And the only thing I don't like about

666
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 5: the options is and I don't know this would necessarily

667
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 5: have up in here with the sealers seeing it. A

668
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 5: lot of teams they they do that thing where that

669
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 5: and since it's guarantee because of an injury, right, and

670
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 5: they they like sit the guy down then the final

671
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 5: four or five weeks of season because we don't want

672
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 5: to say any chance to get him hurt at all whatsoever,

673
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 5: and we want to make sure he's healthy and so

674
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 5: we don't have to pick up the you know, pay

675
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 5: him like that whole aspect of it kind of makes

676
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 5: me like, like, I don't know if you want to

677
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 5: go down that road or have that being a possibility

678
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 5: of something that might happen if things don't go well.

679
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 5: But it's it's one of the one of the bigger

680
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 5: decisions they you know, you talked about that class of

681
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 5: twenty and then the rest of that class has it's

682
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 5: a lot of decisions there to make about extensions too.

683
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 5: I mean, Joey, poor Junior, I'm sure the slam dunk

684
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 5: you want to do it for sure, and you could

685
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 5: talk about menton or not Washington, Nick Herbig all for

686
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 5: differing reasons. How much do you prioritize those there are they?

687
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think you. I mean, they're all

688
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 5: worthy to a point. But it's like do they what

689
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 5: are they thinking? Like and we've reached you know, especially

690
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 5: Washington Herbay, They're they're thinking, Hey, you know, I might

691
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 5: get a better opportunity somewhere else or what you know,

692
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 5: I might be able to make more if I can

693
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 5: show it and do something you know or you know.

694
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 5: It's so it's another simple uh, simple answers there, I

695
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 5: guess either. So it's a lot of ways a pivotal

696
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: off season in terms of little more maybe decision making,

697
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 5: and you have some of these off season in terms

698
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 5: of extensions and free agents and things like that.

699
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: Chris, could you see them sooner than later? Obviously a

700
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 4: coach is priority number one, doing something with Pierre and

701
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 4: or a Sante Samuel to be the corner opposite Joey.

702
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I and like you know, again it's kind of

703
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 5: a blank, you know, nameless gray face because you're talking

704
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 5: projecting out to the draft or whatever. You know, I

705
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 5: would think, you know, you you kind of you pick

706
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 5: one of them and you can see the scenario you

707
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 5: keep them both. I guess it's not totally out of question,

708
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 5: especially because Pierre has never never gone to a season

709
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 5: with them, Pierre being you know, a starter or even

710
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 5: number three corner right or north three. So but you know,

711
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 5: maybe he now yeah, so maybe now he after playing

712
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: this past year, he had representation say hey, you know,

713
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 5: wait a minute, here, he showed he can play. You

714
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 5: turn to him in a playoff game to essentially, you know,

715
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 5: to start for you and things like so, you know,

716
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 5: I don't know then if it's as simple as bringing

717
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 5: them back to be your you know, one of your

718
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 5: core special teamers and you know he's your he's kind

719
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 5: of your your knight. A great insurance policy to have

720
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 5: it outside corner back. But so you probably have to

721
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 5: choose one of those two. And then probably although there's

722
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 5: a lot of positions, you got to I mean that

723
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 5: you know, you start going down the list of priorities

724
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 5: in the draft or whatever, and you know, hopefully get

725
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 5: a corner somewhere in that you know, third round range

726
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 5: or something like that, and and maybe he can you know,

727
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 5: you hope that you hit on that as a rookie

728
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 5: or whatever, and he maybe beats out your guy or whatever.

729
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 5: So I don't know where what the market is for either,

730
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 5: because I mean Pierre that that's the interesting part I

731
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 5: think with either one of them. It's been one of

732
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 5: those things where the stewards of this a lot the

733
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 5: day that it seems as if you know, you see

734
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 5: a lot of these freedoms and these like they're starting

735
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 5: type players, not their start type players. That makes sense

736
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: till that first day of first or second day of

737
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 5: tampering and then you hear the announcement comes at that

738
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 5: Tuesday afternoon or something, so they must obviously say, hey,

739
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 5: we're like you, you know, here's we want you to

740
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: be back. You know, if you want to test the

741
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 5: market until they get that somebody might might have seen

742
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 5: something on tape on you and want to blow you

743
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 5: away to make you a starter, that's great. If not,

744
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 5: you know, here's four pm on the second day of

745
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 5: the league year or whatever. You know what, you come

746
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 5: back to us, you would love to have you back.

747
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 5: If not, we got a we got you know, a

748
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 5: fast work moving world. We're gonna move on. So I

749
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 5: could see you know something like that where where you know,

750
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 5: you know, they offer him like not a not a

751
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 5: complete So say like like Samuel, like, where's he Like,

752
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 5: did he prove enough? Does he? I guess yeah, yeah,

753
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 5: exactly from the outside externally, are people going to be

754
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 5: pounding on his door to say, oh that you know,

755
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 5: here we go, or you know, like you would have

756
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 5: been if you hit the market, you know, a year

757
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 5: and a half ago before he got injured. I you know,

758
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 5: probably not. But then again, he did put some tape

759
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 5: out there. I mean, you know, like he played you know,

760
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 5: eighty ninety percent of the snap in some of those games.

761
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 5: I don't think it's a you know, his health is

762
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 5: in question. So it's interesting to see the same thing

763
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 5: with Perr. He's been a faith he's pa been a

764
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 5: special teamer for five six years of his career, but

765
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 5: then he showed it on a stretcher he could start.

766
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 5: So but I would I guess in a generic way

767
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 5: one of those two is back. And then you draft

768
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 5: a mid round corner and kind of you know, obviously

769
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 5: you're making a priority to extend Joey this offseason, and

770
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 5: that's your outside corner grew for the most part.

771
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: Last thing I got for you is, you know, while

772
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 4: we're sitting in chatting corners. Trice has been out of sight,

773
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 4: out of mind. I would assume he'll be in training camp.

774
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 4: But do you think they look at him as anything

775
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 4: we get from him is gravy at this point with

776
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 4: the injuries.

777
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, at this point it's like, I mean for fair

778
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 5: or not or whatever. It's like their point where they

779
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: cannot certainly go in new year thinking they can trust

780
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 5: that they're gonna get him right, right, and hopefully he's surprised.

781
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 5: They obviously have liked them, and you take him to camp.

782
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 5: There's really no draw you know, draw back to that

783
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 5: or anything like that. And maybe if he does stay

784
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 5: healthy and he shows or gets an opportunity whatever, maybe

785
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 5: there's a camp you know, whatever it is, and that's

786
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 5: great and you can do that. So I you know, right,

787
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 5: you kind of forget them about him, because it seems

788
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 5: like every year it's just crazy man, like he you know,

789
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 5: he's he comes back from my arm and gets hurt

790
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 5: the first practice. Yeah, it's it's like, how man, it's

791
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 5: just like you know, and you see all that, you

792
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 5: see the potensia with him, you see how much, Yeah,

793
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 5: feelers like him, and you know, generally speaking, but at

794
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 5: some point where it's like yep, like the world goes on,

795
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 5: and you know what, if we can't depend on you,

796
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 5: you know, I can't see them. They certainly can't go

797
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 5: in this scene and say, all right, you know, Corey's

798
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 5: gonna be our you know, our third and outsacked corner,

799
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 5: you know whatever. I think you kind of just gotta

800
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 5: let him. Let him if he comes to camp, say's

801
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 5: healthy and balls out, and then it's a good problem

802
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 5: to have. You can figure out how to how to

803
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 5: get my role.

804
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: We like good problems to have. I mean, you're always

805
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: you're always gonna have problems, but let's have more good

806
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: problems than bad ones. Chris Damski, he's a good problem

807
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 3: to have around here joining us on the show this Thursday,

808
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 3: taking some time, buzz, Thank you for the time as always,

809
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: and we'll talk to you here soon.

810
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 5: And nice to think somebody's ever said about me. I'm

811
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 5: a good problem to have.

812
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: I'm sure all of your high school teachers back at

813
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: Mars would.

814
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: Concur that you were just pleasure to have in class.

815
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: Take care, pal, all right, take care there with my

816
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: west there.

817
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: He goes Chris Damski. Good stuff from him, as always.

818
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: Let's get to a break. Here we come back on

819
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: the other side, Matt, Aaron Rodgers and numbers in the

820
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season. Okay, some interesting, some interesting breakdowns

821
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: of the good and the bed. Yeah, okay, let's get

822
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: into that when we return. We'll do all that and

823
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 3: more as we roll along. Close down the first hour.

824
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 3: Here on the other side was Shoeler. Matt Williamson, and

825
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: is the drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

826
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: Audio Network, your tuns.

827
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: About drive on your twenty four to seven home of

828
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

829
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: All Right, Matt, I'm gonna call an audible at the

830
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, much like Aaron Rodgers.

831
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: Much like Aaron Rodgers.

832
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: I assessed the situation, and I'm gonna check.

833
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: In something, yeah, a little something, a little more conservative.

834
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: Something a little more conservative, something a little more manageable,

835
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 3: because we've got a shorter segment here after two beefy

836
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: ones in the first hour, and I don't want to

837
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: short change the Aaron Rodgers conversation because our buddy Mike

838
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 3: de Fabo, actually who we talked to earlier in the week,

839
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: kind of put together I thought a very nice recap

840
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: in numbers of the good and the bad. That was

841
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers in twenty twenty five. So let's call in

842
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: audible at the line of scrimmage here. Let's save that

843
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: for next segment to start our number two. That way,

844
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: we'll have plenty of time to dig into it. And

845
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: let's talk comp picks for a few minutes here as

846
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 3: we close down. As we close down the first hour.

847
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: Now, these aren't official, they have not been released yet.

848
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: This is projection, exactly right. But these are projections from

849
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: people in the know.

850
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, over the Cap folks, Over the Cap folks, the

851
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: Cap nerds out there on Twitter, they're pretty on point

852
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: for these things.

853
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, figured out the formula when chef

854
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: the tweets, you know sources Kevin Stefanski's gonna end up

855
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: as the next coach in Atlanta. Yeah, and then that

856
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: news becomes officially official that you know, not always one

857
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 3: hundred percent, but pretty stinking close. And over the Caps,

858
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six compensatory picks projection has been finalized.

859
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 4: So they award every year thirty two comp picks.

860
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: That's it.

861
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: So that's it. So whoever deserves the most gets them.

862
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 4: So there ends up really being eight rounds to the draft.

863
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 4: There isn't officially, but.

864
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: I guess I never thought about it that way. Yeah,

865
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: that makes sense.

866
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's eighty two unless somebody four of us to

867
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 4: pick or whatever.

868
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: And now you'll see it's not just that every team

869
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 3: gets one or anything like that. No, no, because it appears

870
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: by their formula that the Steelers will have four compicks

871
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: in the upcoming draft.

872
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: Before you get into it, the formula, and I don't

873
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: know exactly how it goes, but like when if Fields

874
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 4: would have played more, if Wilson total laid more, that.

875
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: Would have helped Dante Jackson.

876
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah we know there, we knew. You know the contracts

877
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: these guys signed Nausey Dan Moore when they left, and

878
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 4: they're likely to yield a compick. But you don't know

879
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: where all the other teams are. And you're the most

880
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 4: deserving to get X amount of the thirty two. We're

881
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 4: only giving away thirty two, and some of it playing

882
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 4: time factors in and how what they did, but their.

883
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: Biggest fact yeah, it's playing time. And so with that,

884
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: the Steelers get a third round comp pick. Thank you

885
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: to Dan Moore junior. Yes he was starting with a

886
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: fact sizable contract starting left tackle for I don't think

887
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: he missed a game this year, little, but yes, that'll

888
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: get you a third round comp pick, which is we

889
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 3: should I should have said that too.

890
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: That's the best you can get.

891
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 4: You get.

892
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: There's no first or second round compicks, and the third

893
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: round end.

894
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: Of the third round and will be the end of

895
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 4: the round. So there you could say they're beginning the

896
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 4: fourth if you.

897
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: Want in the what like the late nineties in terms

898
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 2: of pick yeah.

899
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 4: So what there's ninety six picks and then the compis.

900
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: Simple math, even even you and I can figure that one.

901
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: And the Steelers will definitely have four in the top

902
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 4: ninety six because pickings get them a third and presumably

903
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 4: five in the top one hundred.

904
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: Five in the top one hundred, which is nice, thank

905
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,959
Speaker 3: you for They will get a fourth rounder for Justin

906
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: Fields and two sixth rounders, one for Russell Wilson, won

907
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: for Dante Jackson.

908
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 2: Gentlemen, thank you for your efforts.

909
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and Nausey didn't even factor in there.

910
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: Nagy didn't even factor in.

911
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: And you know, there could have been another world where

912
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: Justin Fields and Russell Wilson in an alternate Universe end

913
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 3: up getting you more than a fourth and a sixth.

914
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: Got a third out of them, Yeah, because like Sam

915
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: Darnold's golda yield, the where do you come from?

916
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 2: He went from Minnesota episode.

917
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna he's probably the.

918
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 3: Number one of the I would imagine the third. Yeah,

919
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 3: with the money he made in the year that he

920
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 3: had and all those things.

921
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: But if Fields of Wilson would have been as access, they.

922
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 3: Would have been a seventeen game starter, you know, you

923
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: would have probably gotten another third out of it. But

924
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: still third for Dan Moore Junior, fourth for Fields, sixth

925
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: for Russ, sixth for Dante Jackson. Four extra comp picks,

926
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: two of those in the third and fourth rounds.

927
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: Pretty pretty great.

928
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: And then I think, as you mentioned, the part to

929
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 3: really get excited about is once you shake this whole

930
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: thing out, Now, five picks in the top one hundred

931
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: for the Steelers. That's that's legitimate capital right there. That's legitimate, Ammo.

932
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: What I should know, and I don't have thought my

933
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: head is I don't remember if they have any extra

934
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 4: sixth or seventh from pick swaps or trade deadline stuff

935
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 4: from over the years. I'm almost certain that they have

936
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: their own first second. I know the first, second, third, fourth,

937
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 4: and fifth, and I don't think they have any extras

938
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: other than the comp stuff. So I don't know the

939
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: six and sevens because that gets a little convoluted. Omar

940
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 4: has a habit of ditching those sevens and turn them

941
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: into six.

942
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: Yes, so have the extra third round pick from Dallas

943
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: and the GP trade extra seventh round pick.

944
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: From New Orleans.

945
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 4: Okay.

946
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: Other than that, though, the only extras are the compensatory selections.

947
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 4: So if I'm doing this right, they have seven of

948
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: their picks. A Pickens pick makes it eight, Saints pick

949
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 4: makes it nine, and four Comps thirteen.

950
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 2: Draft picks, and think they're going to draft thirteen guys.

951
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: I don't think they'll draft thirteen guys. It's hard for

952
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: them to make the roster folks, even if they're all

953
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 4: seventh rounders, you know. And yeah, but I would expect

954
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 4: and again subject to change. And what's nice. It used

955
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: to make me crazy when I got in this business,

956
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: or even before I did, and I was a draft nerd,

957
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: like why can't I trade a compick? Why do I

958
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 4: have to stick at ninety eight? Then take this guy

959
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 4: if I want to move up to ninety five or

960
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 4: if I want to go back management, right, right, Like,

961
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: it's my pick, why can't I do what I want

962
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 4: with it? It's I don't want to pick at ninety eight.

963
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 4: There's nobody here I want. I want to get out

964
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 4: of it, and ten teams want it now you can

965
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 4: trade them.

966
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: So and it just started recently, right, I.

967
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 4: Would say within five years ago or something like that.

968
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 4: I mean, but that's recent in my draft life, Yeah, right,

969
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 4: I mean I've been paying attention to Yeah, I would

970
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 4: think in some way, shape or form, maybe even with

971
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 4: a reasonably high pick, you want to kick the can

972
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 4: down to the next draft, you know. I mean, I'm

973
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 4: not talking even a seventh for a next year. Sixth maybe,

974
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 4: but maybe one of those thirds becomes a two, And

975
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: of course I have quarterback in mind here.

976
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: Maybe one of your fifth rounders becomes a third, fourth

977
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 3: founder becomes a third.

978
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 4: And along those lines, maybe you also package up two

979
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 4: fifths to get another third in this draft, you know

980
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 4: what I mean, a little more quality and future than

981
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: quantity is the way I'd look at it for now.

982
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: I don't need thirteen rookies plus undrafted guys coming to camp.

983
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely not Yeah, absolutely not.

984
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: So it's great stuff to have.

985
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: It's it's a good problem to have, oh thirteen draft picks.

986
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 4: They're very fluid and people are always gonna want them.

987
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: Hour in the Books, another hour ago, let's talk Aaron

988
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: Rodgers to kick off Hour number two. On the other side,

989
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: will also go around campus and and talk some wide

990
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: receiver market.

991
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 4: Is that starting to come down a bunch of In

992
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 4: the last twenty four hours, I've done a bunch of

993
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 4: draftable quarterback research.

994
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: Let's have that conversation at hour number two is what

995
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Speaker 2: we'll talk

996
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: About last year's quarterback, Aaron Rodgers and draftable quarterbacks here

997
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: around the corner, West Wheeler Matt Williamson, halfway Home on

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